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Speaker 1: from last night. The Rays beat the Dodgers six fourth,
Speaker 1: that series tied at a game of piece. The series
Speaker 1: takes the day off so they don't compete with Thursday
Speaker 1: Night Football Giants and the Eagles. The Pelicans waited this
Speaker 1: long and they hired Stan van Gundi. Jeff Van Gundy's
Speaker 1: on the short list to be the next head coach
Speaker 1: of the Houston Rockets. Al Lighter from the Baseball Network
Speaker 1: will join us coming up in a little bit. And
Speaker 1: it feels like every series we do the same thing.
Speaker 1: Throughout the Baseball playoffs. We read way too much into
Speaker 1: Game one or Game two, even Game three, And remember
Speaker 1: the Rays led the Astros three h and had to
Speaker 1: go to seven games. Meanwhile, the Dodgers, down three one,
Speaker 1: went seven games before they advanced. Los Angeles takes Game one,
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw. Everything's great, powered by the Dodgers. Then the
Speaker 1: Rays come back last night winning Game two sixty four,
Speaker 1: reminding us that this might be a competitive series. Blake
Speaker 1: Snell was brilliant on the mound, Brandon Lowe broke out
Speaker 1: of his slump, and now the Rays have Charlie Morton
Speaker 1: on the mound. Game three against Walker Bueller Junior the third.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get fooled again in this series, one
Speaker 1: way or another. I'm just gonna let it play out.
Speaker 1: Hope it's competitive, and that seems like a very likely
Speaker 1: possibility at this point. But last night the Rays did
Speaker 1: it with hitting and pitching. Here is Blake Snell, the
Speaker 1: Rays pitcher. Every game right now is obviously a must win,
Speaker 1: but I didn't feel the pressure of we really need
Speaker 1: to win. I felt more of the pressure on myself,
Speaker 1: like let's get it going and let's, you know, give
Speaker 1: this team something to push forward with. Here's Dave Roberts,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers manager, on his pitchers. I think that I
Speaker 1: still trust him, I still believe them, and they just
Speaker 1: got to make pitches. I know that they want to
Speaker 1: make pitches and next few pitches, so we'll kind of
Speaker 1: look at the video and see what we can do
Speaker 1: better at but they're still going to need to get
Speaker 1: big out for us. And once again, the World Series
Speaker 1: has the day off. We'll talk to Al Lighter. I
Speaker 1: don't want to dive into the analytics again, but I'm
Speaker 1: watching last night and it was a common opinion, that
Speaker 1: common knowledge that this was a bullpen game for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: This is the World Series. And I know I'm old school,
Speaker 1: but I'm not that old. Like, this is Game two
Speaker 1: of the World Series. Can I get my second best
Speaker 1: starter out there for five innings instead of using five
Speaker 1: different pitchers in five innings, I would like to use
Speaker 1: those pitchers again the rest of the series. But Blake
Speaker 1: Snell pitched extremely well and then they turned it over
Speaker 1: to the bullpen. Now let's just go five innings, if
Speaker 1: even that. But it was a bullpen session last night, basically,
Speaker 1: and you had all of your bullpen guys pitching an inning.
Speaker 1: And this is the World Series. It's game too, and
Speaker 1: a lot of success in World Series history is predicated
Speaker 1: on having usually two great starters. If you show me
Speaker 1: a rotation that has two great starters, I'm going to
Speaker 1: favor that team. Justin Verlander and Garrett Cole, Randy Johnson,
Speaker 1: Kurt Schilling. Just you have those pitchers, I like your
Speaker 1: chance as a whole lot more. Now I'm not sure
Speaker 1: because of the analytics here, and I'm open to change.
Speaker 1: I understand where the game is now, and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to do this. He get off my lawn. These
Speaker 1: games are too long. A game can be long, it
Speaker 1: can be four hours, but it could be entertaining. These games,
Speaker 1: I don't care how long they are. They're not entertaining
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of there is no movement whatsoever. Everybody
Speaker 1: throws one hundred. Never it used to be, and that
Speaker 1: guy throws one hundred. Now if you don't throw one hundred,
Speaker 1: I go, what's wrong with you? If you haven't had
Speaker 1: Tommy John surgery, what do you call yourself a pitcher?
Speaker 1: Now it's exit velocity, launch angle, and it's basically let's
Speaker 1: dig in. I'm swinging and you're throwing, and the little
Speaker 1: things that made up baseball, and maybe you know, the
Speaker 1: analytics say you don't win this way. Okay, but last
Speaker 1: night I'm watching the same thing. You know, you've got
Speaker 1: guys who swing and miss and it's okay. Pitchers who
Speaker 1: you know, throwing ninety eight nine, one hundred. All right,
Speaker 1: But that's the game I think as we move forward,
Speaker 1: and baseball has the oldest demographic as far as fans go,
Speaker 1: and you got to be careful with that. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying bells and whistles like I like when players are demonstrative.
Speaker 1: If you have fun, you're enjoying the game, then great,
Speaker 1: you should be able to do that. Pitchers strike you out,
Speaker 1: you want to celebrate, go ahead at your own peril,
Speaker 1: home run bat flip, fine with that, don't throw it
Speaker 1: the next guy. But just the sheer enjoyment of the game.
Speaker 1: And you could see this, but it changed and it
Speaker 1: felt like overnight with let's just go to the bullpen
Speaker 1: for Game two of the World Series. I know we
Speaker 1: used to get caught up in these pitching matchups. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Denny McClain and Bob Gibson. Sandy Koufax
Speaker 1: is on the mount. Now it's who and he's only
Speaker 1: in there for an inning. Now we'll bring the closer
Speaker 1: and put him in the first inning. Okay, if it's
Speaker 1: let me get your topier lineup out and he's only
Speaker 1: gonna pitch one inning and then maybe we get ahead. Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. I think baseball might be out smarting
Speaker 1: itself here runner at second base and extra innings. Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of things that I would
Speaker 1: do with Major League Baseball. Just I tidy it up.
Speaker 1: You come in from the bullpen. You don't get to
Speaker 1: throw any pitches. If I bring a guy off the
Speaker 1: bench to pinch, shit, he doesn't get to go. Can
Speaker 1: you can I get some BP like it doesn't happen? Like, hey, kay,
Speaker 1: can I would just give me throwing me you know
Speaker 1: the shift. I would have a line right down the
Speaker 1: middle of the field, center field to home plate, you know,
Speaker 1: catch her to second base, and then you got your
Speaker 1: second baseman. Can't be on the other side of that.
Speaker 1: Your shortstock can't be on the other side of that line.
Speaker 1: You know. I gotta I want to increase offense here.
Speaker 1: I want movement here. I would love to see the
Speaker 1: ball put in play. And I promise this will be
Speaker 1: my last get up on a soapbox and talk about
Speaker 1: it'll be my next to last rank. Don't guarantee a place.
Speaker 1: It'll be one of my next left because alt lighters
Speaker 1: coming up. I just I want to ask him. And
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be open minded about this because McLevin says,
Speaker 1: it's it's the way it's new. It's the analytics. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the way the game is played now. Yeah, mcclemen.
Speaker 1: So is it possible the Dodgers staff was just too
Speaker 1: worn out after the last series, so they needed to
Speaker 1: sort of take the al this game they Bueler would
Speaker 1: have been three days rest. So but but where the
Speaker 1: Dodgers were built on great pitching for the last fifty years,
Speaker 1: options were Gonselin Eureus and Dustin May and May it's
Speaker 1: sort of falled off. They didn't have another starter, I
Speaker 1: guess I know, But where did they go? I have
Speaker 1: no idea how I was going to ask you that.
Speaker 1: How come the options aren't better? I could? It used
Speaker 1: to me you'd have four starters. Now it's you got
Speaker 1: to have. And the reason why I really like Tampa
Speaker 1: this year was the depth of their pitching. I mean,
Speaker 1: they use everybody, and they've got twelve to fifteen arms
Speaker 1: that they can use. The Dodgers I love because of
Speaker 1: their hitting. I wasn't impressed with their pitching, and so
Speaker 1: now you're getting if if one team gets hitting and pitching,
Speaker 1: they're going to win. You know, Tampa got hitting last
Speaker 1: night to go along with their pitching. The Dodgers, you
Speaker 1: know they didn't have pitching last night. Yeah, paulling Walker
Speaker 1: Bueller on three days rest, could he have done worse
Speaker 1: than five innings than give up six runs? Probably not,
Speaker 1: based on walker Bueller's background, and also how tired can
Speaker 1: a twenty six year old starting pitcher be who pitched
Speaker 1: a total of thirty six innings this season. Thirty six
Speaker 1: innings in the regular season. He usually pitches to twenty.
Speaker 1: But I understand I don't want walker Bueller on three
Speaker 1: days rest. If I know that he's so much better
Speaker 1: on four days rest, I feel good, I feel confident
Speaker 1: about winning that game. It's just when I hear this
Speaker 1: it's a bullpen game. Using you don't say that prior
Speaker 1: to a game, because I know that you'd always want
Speaker 1: to get into somebody's bullpen. But that's not the case. Yes,
Speaker 1: one more counter argument. Everything's weird because of COVID and
Speaker 1: like the schedules are condensed, so you can't manage your
Speaker 1: pitching staff like you normally would. There's less isn't there
Speaker 1: less rest less travel days? But if there's less rest,
Speaker 1: how about I have somebody who can go five or
Speaker 1: six and then I can rest my bullpen. That's what
Speaker 1: I don't understand. We're playing these games day after day. Now.
Speaker 1: You do have a day off now, and I think
Speaker 1: a day off after Game five? Am I trying to
Speaker 1: conserve my bullpen? That would be the only thing that
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out. It's just like what
Speaker 1: the Yankees did against the Raise and game was it
Speaker 1: Game two? Where they they kind of try this and yes,
Speaker 1: in it backfire, Yeah, yes, in it backfire. But you
Speaker 1: know the Yankees go out and buy pitchers all the time.
Speaker 1: That's what it was surprising with the Dodgers. They have
Speaker 1: great hitting, the pitching is kind of suspect, it really is.
Speaker 1: I love Walker Bueller Kershaw. You know you're got a
Speaker 1: bank on Kershaw coming back Game five and pitching great.
Speaker 1: I I guess so, but that's gonna be five innings
Speaker 1: and then he had turned over to the bullpen. I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be open minded about this okay, and
Speaker 1: that won't be my last rant. I'm sure eight seven
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Speaker 1: we'll talk to a lighter former pitcher who will join
Speaker 1: us on loan from MLB Network. The other story was
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick was well in his words, he got fired,
Speaker 1: he got demoted and to a tongue of Eloah is
Speaker 1: going to be your starter. And it was one of
Speaker 1: those where I heard the news and I thought, you
Speaker 1: know what, Ryan Fitzpatrick, he's a professional. It feels like
Speaker 1: he has been a great mentor to Tuah and he'll
Speaker 1: be okay with this. He was not okay with this.
Speaker 1: Here's Ryan Fitzpatrick on being fired. I was shocked by it.
Speaker 1: You know, it definitely caught me off guard. You know,
Speaker 1: it was a it was a hard thing for me
Speaker 1: to hear yesterday, just kind of digesting the news. Here's
Speaker 1: the other answer. That was pretty hard to listen to
Speaker 1: because this guy has been around a long time. He's
Speaker 1: been a good soldier by all accounts, a great teammate.
Speaker 1: He's not a selfish guy. He's a team first guy.
Speaker 1: But he got hurt yesterday is this it like, was that,
Speaker 1: you know, my last game as a as an NFL
Speaker 1: player in terms of you know, being the starter and
Speaker 1: going out there and playing. I've been you know, a starter,
Speaker 1: I've been benched all kinds of different ways. But this
Speaker 1: organization and what we've been through the last year and
Speaker 1: a half, this was kind of the first place other
Speaker 1: than Buffalo where I was I just felt fully, you know,
Speaker 1: committed and invested and felt like it was my team,
Speaker 1: you know, and so to have that, I think that's
Speaker 1: a lot of the reason why my heart was so
Speaker 1: heavy yesterday. But you know that that's direction that the
Speaker 1: organization's going, and you know, I've just got to accept it.
Speaker 1: Here was the other reality of this pandemic, because now
Speaker 1: you're doing things via Zoom and this is how his
Speaker 1: day went yesterday. This profession is interesting, and that I
Speaker 1: got basically got fired yesterday, and then my day of
Speaker 1: work today consisted of me in zoom meetings, listening to
Speaker 1: the guy that fired me, and then locked in a
Speaker 1: spaced out room, you know, with my replacement for four
Speaker 1: hours today. So there aren't a whole lot of jobs
Speaker 1: that are like that. That is the reality. Imagine that
Speaker 1: you know, but the Dolphins did have a plan. Now
Speaker 1: they expedited the plan. Ryan Fitzpatrick probably thought I could
Speaker 1: win my way or keep my job by winning my
Speaker 1: way in. And the Jets, you know, aren't any good.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are still suspect, the Bills have dropped a couple,
Speaker 1: and here's the Dolphins who have had two blow out
Speaker 1: wins and they're right there in the mix for a
Speaker 1: playoff birth. But I don't think their goal was the
Speaker 1: playoffs this year. Yeah. I do feel bad for Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick because now when you watch him that video of
Speaker 1: him cheering TWA going into the game, right, it's very
Speaker 1: clear he thought that two was going in for mop
Speaker 1: up duty here, you know, and he didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: But what did Ryan Fitzpatrick think was happening? I mean,
Speaker 1: he couldn't really be surprised by this. Wait, well, this
Speaker 1: is where blind Ryan Flores made the mistake of at
Speaker 1: least say to Ryan Ryan Fitzpatrick. Kids found out just
Speaker 1: like we did via tech. So they're in school and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, hey, your dad, he got demoted
Speaker 1: to A and Ryan Fitzpatrick is like, at least tell me.
Speaker 1: And what happened was I think a source in Two's
Speaker 1: camp leaked this to Adam Schefter, and then Chefty broke
Speaker 1: the news, and Ryan Fitzpatrick is finding out like we're
Speaker 1: finding out, and that is wrong. Now, if you're Brian
Speaker 1: Flores and you say, hey, just so you know, if
Speaker 1: when two is ready, no matter what the record is,
Speaker 1: no matter how well you're playing, he's going to play.
Speaker 1: You owe Ryan Fitzpatrick that that's all you owe him,
Speaker 1: because he knows you took this guy with the fifth
Speaker 1: pick overall and you're looking at these other rookie quarterbacks
Speaker 1: who are playing. He's going to play. But Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: can't be shocked that it happened. I think he's shocked
Speaker 1: in the way that it happened. Yes, and how is
Speaker 1: he like? You know, I basically got fired today and
Speaker 1: now I have to look at the guy who fired
Speaker 1: me and help the guy who's replaced it. Dude, you've
Speaker 1: done that like seventeen times in your career. Like your
Speaker 1: whole career has been like up and down, starter or not,
Speaker 1: start to start backup, move to this team, go to
Speaker 1: that game. I gotta start know him, not anymore. That's
Speaker 1: been your whole career. Imagine you see your girlfriend out
Speaker 1: with another guy and you run into him and you go, hey,
Speaker 1: what are you two done? Oh didn't hear? Uh we're dating? Now,
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like. Ryan Fitzpatrick shows up and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Ryan Flores is there with Tuah
Speaker 1: and they're talking, got their arm around each other. Buddy, buddy, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's what's going on? But then imagine that that same
Speaker 1: exact scenario happened with the last eight people you dated.
Speaker 1: And then and then you're like, I can't believe this happened.
Speaker 1: I just I just didn't see it coming. Really, she
Speaker 1: cheated on me for the eighth time. Yeah, you broke
Speaker 1: my heart for the eighth time. Yes, McLean. If it
Speaker 1: wasn't Ryan Fitzpatrick, who would we be ripping him for
Speaker 1: saying that he was fired because it isn't his job
Speaker 1: to help the team win. That's his job. His job
Speaker 1: is not. He was helping the team win, right, but
Speaker 1: he I feel like that's a really non team friendly statement,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like he's gotten such a good will
Speaker 1: that we're letting him pass. But if it was a
Speaker 1: younger quarterback, we'd probably be killing him because that's not
Speaker 1: he's not fired he has a job to help too.
Speaker 1: Would be great. He got demoded. Okay, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he didn't get he got fired from being a star.
Speaker 1: But usually guys don't say something no, it's a must
Speaker 1: lie situation. I think that the honesty is what shocked
Speaker 1: us there because I as soon as we found out
Speaker 1: that Tua was gonna be the starter, I said to Fritzie,
Speaker 1: reach out to Ryan Fitzpatrick. I thought Ryan Fitzpatrick would be, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what the kid is, it's his time. And
Speaker 1: right Ryan Fitzpatrick is playing well, not great. He's completing
Speaker 1: seventy percent of his passes and I think he's got
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns, seven interceptions, and they're winning. That's the part
Speaker 1: when you said two is taking over, and PAULI goes,
Speaker 1: what if I told you a quarterback who just came
Speaker 1: off two wins is playing well, just lost his job.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, all right, you got me maybe Mitchell
Speaker 1: true bisky, But then you go, Ryan Fitzpatrick gonna go wow,
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I had this flashback to
Speaker 1: the Jets game where Tua came in and they had
Speaker 1: him as if he was starting the game, and one
Speaker 1: of those role out so He did the same roll
Speaker 1: out where he injured his hip when he was at Alabama.
Speaker 1: He ran the same play and I went, Wow, they're
Speaker 1: getting him ready like now. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: the bye week was going to be week eleven and
Speaker 1: they would have waited, But now you have a bye
Speaker 1: week before you faced the Rams, and two has got
Speaker 1: you know, good, ten to twelve days to get ready
Speaker 1: for his NFL debut. Yeah, pulling Andrew's right, but it's
Speaker 1: usually a muscle situation. A quarterback like Ryan Fitzpatrick would
Speaker 1: you usually say, you know, whatever helps the team. He
Speaker 1: doesn't believe this is the best thing for the team.
Speaker 1: Nobody believes that they're the person replacing them is better
Speaker 1: than them. No person who actually competes for anything. And
Speaker 1: Ryan fit Patrick is also almost thirty eight years old.
Speaker 1: He knows he's his last call, or close to last call.
Speaker 1: You speak differently when you're on your way out. It's
Speaker 1: like an old guy who doesn't turn use his turn
Speaker 1: signal anymore. He's like, well, I'm just gonna be honest
Speaker 1: because I've been playing the game for so long. Let's
Speaker 1: just call it like it is. They're making the wrong decision. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tun what would be the upside of motivation for leaking it.
Speaker 1: We better get it out there before they change their mind. Like,
Speaker 1: why would you put Ryan Fitzpatrick or two or the
Speaker 1: organization in that awkward position that they would get out
Speaker 1: before the Dolphins can announce it themselves. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would have mattered if they
Speaker 1: did tell Ryan Fitzpatrick. But you know, all I know
Speaker 1: is that that's what I heard. That the leak probably
Speaker 1: was from to his camp, and they might have been
Speaker 1: just excited that hey, we're starting and not really thinking
Speaker 1: you know, what's Ryan Fitzpatrick gonna think? But that's on
Speaker 1: Brian Flores, like you got it. At least let him
Speaker 1: know this is the situation. Ryan Fitzpatrick thinks that he
Speaker 1: can win his way into another week, and why not.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you think that that is how life should be.
Speaker 1: Though the more successful person should be keep their job,
Speaker 1: and he was the successful guy. He does give them
Speaker 1: a better chance to win and has, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: work that way when youth always wins out. But I
Speaker 1: remember when John Kittman was playing for the Bengals and
Speaker 1: was an MVP candidate because they won eight games, but
Speaker 1: they had taken Carson Palmer with the number one picked
Speaker 1: the previous year, and it didn't matter what John Kitna did.
Speaker 1: He could have won the MVP, and he wasn't going
Speaker 1: to keep his job. Yeah, club drew Brees and Rivers too, right,
Speaker 1: didn't start playing really well when they drafted Rivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then he got hurt and that's what made it
Speaker 1: easier for the transition. What's the deal with everyone saying
Speaker 1: they should trade Ryan Fitzpatrick? Do you know how many
Speaker 1: games has too have ever been able to string together?
Speaker 1: His ankles are super glued together. His hip is like,
Speaker 1: you need Ryan Fitzpatrick. Does Ryan Fitzpatrick want to be there?
Speaker 1: That would be my only thing he could be. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's that desirable for how many teams like, hey,
Speaker 1: we gotta go get him. Hey we got Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: I love Fitzpatrick. He's entertaining, good interview at times, a
Speaker 1: really good quarterback. But I'm not looking at him going yep,
Speaker 1: we've figured it out. We got Ryan Fitzpatrick here. I
Speaker 1: hope that he look his pride is hurt, He'll swallow
Speaker 1: the pride and he'll be, you know, a great backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing to two. I would imagine, but I think
Speaker 1: it was one of those where God, like, I got
Speaker 1: embarrassed yesterday and at least tell me I'm getting demoted.
Speaker 1: At least let me tell my family I'm being demoted.
Speaker 1: He didn't even get that opportunity yesterday. So I understand
Speaker 1: that sensitivity, and you know that was that was an
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Speaker 1: He won the World Series three times. You can watch
Speaker 1: Al part of MLB Networks live coverage before and after
Speaker 1: every World Series game from a globe life field, including
Speaker 1: on MLB Tonight. Al thanks for joining us here. I've
Speaker 1: been I've been talking about this. This was a bullpen
Speaker 1: game for the Dodgers yesterday. This is Game two of
Speaker 1: the World Series. I know I'm old I know, I'm
Speaker 1: old school. But where are we going with pitching in baseball?
Speaker 1: What is what is the or am I missing out on?
Speaker 1: What is the trend already here? Oh? I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: By the way, good morning, Can we look good? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh I look. I hope this isn't a trend because
Speaker 1: watching a playoff games or any Major League Baseball game
Speaker 1: with each respective team using five, six, seven, eight pitchers
Speaker 1: isn't fun watch for me. Obviously, as a starting pitcher,
Speaker 1: I always lean to give the guy an extra inning.
Speaker 1: You know, all of this whole debate as to whether
Speaker 1: it was you know, the guy had seventy eight pitches,
Speaker 1: you know, Clayton Kerschel is a great pitch? Or should
Speaker 1: we send them out for the next inning? He looked
Speaker 1: great to me, Yeah, I would send them out for
Speaker 1: another inning. So the inclination of all of the matchups,
Speaker 1: with the analytics and with all of the reams of data, etc.
Speaker 1: That's being used, they're being pushed now to in the
Speaker 1: coach's room in the manager's office with the discussion that
Speaker 1: this matchup is better because of X, and I don't
Speaker 1: like it. I think there should be more of a gut.
Speaker 1: I know, managers are more inclined to have to have
Speaker 1: the answer to it because it wasn't a collaborative a decision,
Speaker 1: you know, it was on a whim M. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't like it. But it also comes to this, Dan,
Speaker 1: you know, Gonselin, I think it's a matter of the roster.
Speaker 1: And as great as that the Dodgers are and for
Speaker 1: through and through twenty eight players this year, but twenty
Speaker 1: five man roster, what that front office has done, Andrew Friedman,
Speaker 1: is they've created a very very deep roster that covers
Speaker 1: a lot. Right. So we've been talking about the Dodgers
Speaker 1: for the longest time, but the truth is, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't go much deeper than that. And you look
Speaker 1: at what the Dodgers did this winter. Of course with
Speaker 1: David Price, you know, electing to not play really hurt them.
Speaker 1: And then with Kershaw's back, you know, for him to
Speaker 1: to not be able to go Game two in the LCS,
Speaker 1: it created this this problem, which is what they have.
Speaker 1: And you know, you have a good pitcher, good arm
Speaker 1: gonsel In and Dustin May and all these guys that
Speaker 1: are you know, on the come, but they're you know,
Speaker 1: they don't have four starters. The bottom line, as good
Speaker 1: as the team is. I know, and I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't think this is by truly
Speaker 1: by design, although these two teams are very analytically driven,
Speaker 1: which means just a lot of levels of statistics that
Speaker 1: convince the coaches and manager that this is a good decision.
Speaker 1: But look, I think if they had three or four
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershalls or Walker Builder Knight, you know, they'd much
Speaker 1: try to have that guy. Then you know, Ham and Egg.
Speaker 1: At first start, I'm wondering, though, is the starting pitcher?
Speaker 1: Is it five innings? Now six innings at the most.
Speaker 1: It feels like, like how tired can they possibly be?
Speaker 1: They pitched like forty innings total this year. This is
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know, Dan, Look you're talking to
Speaker 1: a guy who had in my second second full year
Speaker 1: in big leagues. In April against Minnesota, Dallas Gream as
Speaker 1: the manager of the Yankees. He kept me in for
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty plus pitches, and then after the
Speaker 1: game they asked to They said, what were you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm twenty three years old. They said he was trying
Speaker 1: to stretch lighter out. Oh my god, I couldn't brush
Speaker 1: my teeth or you know, you know, more hair, white
Speaker 1: bear come my hair for a couple of so somewhere
Speaker 1: between seventy eight to seventy eight pitches to one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty somewhere in between. Although I was appreciative of
Speaker 1: what Bobby Valentine did in Game five of Can't Believe
Speaker 1: It Dan to twenty years, I guess girl from getting old.
Speaker 1: But with the two thousand World Series, with the Vets
Speaker 1: Yankees and Bobby be keeping me out there for the
Speaker 1: ninth inning, I ended up throwing one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: plus pitches. To this day, I thank Bobby for it.
Speaker 1: We end up blues into the Yankees for two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not interesting for me, and it's an
Speaker 1: easy trigger. You're creating rosters that have a plethora of
Speaker 1: guys that aren't really good at their craft, but they
Speaker 1: could throw really hard. Yeah, and in doing so plus
Speaker 1: plus velocity, you get away with mistakes. You're going to
Speaker 1: miss your spots. But if I could get this dude
Speaker 1: to come in here and throw an inning and a third,
Speaker 1: get his butt out of there, and get the next
Speaker 1: guy that throws ninety eight and then it's just this
Speaker 1: churning and recycling of player development, of trying to trying
Speaker 1: to accumulate arms that throw really hard, but they're really
Speaker 1: not pitchers. I brought this up to Jessica Mendoza yesterday.
Speaker 1: I said, will we have a counterpuncher, a somebody who
Speaker 1: goes counter like Whitey Herzog's Cardinals in the mid eighties,
Speaker 1: where I got speed defense. I'm going to drive you crazy.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get on base, We're gonna run, We're not
Speaker 1: going to be sitting dead red waiting for home runs.
Speaker 1: And we got pictures, are going to have you put
Speaker 1: the ball in play. Could you see somebody doing that? Well,
Speaker 1: we saw with the Braves, you know, I thought that
Speaker 1: was a heck. And by the way, the LCS were great, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Astros to push it what they did with Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay getting the game seven and then the Braves being
Speaker 1: a very good team, but the Dodgers, you know, on paper,
Speaker 1: definitely better. The Braves ran a lot, I mean there
Speaker 1: was I didn't count that the total amount of actual
Speaker 1: stolen bases, but they were trying to push the defense.
Speaker 1: I love when I see that because I could tell
Speaker 1: you Dan, even as a left hander. As I was,
Speaker 1: I wasn't great at holding runners and it was a nuisance.
Speaker 1: It was a pain. It diverted my attention from from
Speaker 1: the hitter that me trying to get a hitter out.
Speaker 1: So I think it will and it'll only happen with
Speaker 1: the convincing the GM slash owner who pays the bills
Speaker 1: that this is a good way to go and let's
Speaker 1: do it. I think you have to because of the
Speaker 1: way the defenses shift, you know, with respect to UH,
Speaker 1: you know shifting um, it's created harder for guys to
Speaker 1: get the ball in the grat in between fair fairball
Speaker 1: in the grass. What do you think of the shift?
Speaker 1: I was, I was wondering, and I think the commissioner
Speaker 1: might join us tomorrow. But what if I just had
Speaker 1: a line that you know, catcher, second base, center field,
Speaker 1: and then your shortstop can't be on that side of
Speaker 1: the line, or your second baseman can't be on the
Speaker 1: other side of the line. I'd like it. And look,
Speaker 1: there's there's illegal defense in basketball, uh and football, and
Speaker 1: you know you could create that with with as you
Speaker 1: describe it. Somewhere along the line, we could create something.
Speaker 1: Sit down and brainstorm on if we're trying to get
Speaker 1: guys to put the ball in play more. Apparently they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't have the ability to go the other way,
Speaker 1: which blows my mind because I stunk as a hitter,
Speaker 1: and if I had a huge old hole on the
Speaker 1: other side, I'd figure out a way to dribble a ball.
Speaker 1: But the analytics don't. The analytics aren't in your favor
Speaker 1: of getting on first base for so what I'm told
Speaker 1: you know on base percentage doesn't matter. How about it?
Speaker 1: How about if me, you and three other guys just
Speaker 1: sitting little nubbers for singles. Guess what, we just scored
Speaker 1: two runs and now we've applied pressure. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with that. And they're getting paid by batting two
Speaker 1: thirty five, hitting thirty plus home runs, striking out one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty one hundred and sixty times, and they
Speaker 1: get paid. So somewhere along the line they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to compensate my swing. I don't have
Speaker 1: a two strike approach because if I can launch one
Speaker 1: here and I'm one for four with two strikeouts with
Speaker 1: a two run homer, that was a great night. We're
Speaker 1: talking out lighter MLB Network analyst and won the World
Speaker 1: Series three times over your right shoulder. Looks like that's
Speaker 1: a sports Emmy. It is. Yeah, this is my little
Speaker 1: office here, But is that the sports Emmy that should
Speaker 1: have gone to us? We were we were up against
Speaker 1: you guys two years in a row, and then you
Speaker 1: guys won. I don't know, I'll see. Although this is
Speaker 1: for the MLB tonight, Yeah, seventeen Outstanding Studio come on, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll tell you what. I'll put it away.
Speaker 1: I'll put it away, man, I'll I'll bring this one.
Speaker 1: This is a local one from the Yes Network. When
Speaker 1: I was doing that, some analysts outstanding gained something or other.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that's cool. Sorry. I've been nominated
Speaker 1: six times as a studio analyst, never won DAN but
Speaker 1: A Rod gave out the award that night, and I
Speaker 1: honestly think I never saw the amblope. I think A
Speaker 1: Rod and we don't have a good relationship. I think
Speaker 1: A Rod just said MLB tonight. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys truly want it, and look, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: I just need to know the truth because I think
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of Lala land going on there.
Speaker 1: That night it felt like we should have won it.
Speaker 1: Everybody told us, even people he is he is friends
Speaker 1: with Warren Batty, so maybe he got some ideas. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, what are the other awards you got there?
Speaker 1: This is my most prize award two thousand, Roberto Comeni Awards, Marchia, Dimes,
Speaker 1: branch Ricky, some kind of philanthropic stuff. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I don't have a digmy room, Dan, this is it.
Speaker 1: I have some pictures. Uh. Yeah. Some of my friends
Speaker 1: have dedicate entire basements to stuff. Who's got the best
Speaker 1: man cave of all your baseball friends? Tom Glavin? What's Glavin? God,
Speaker 1: he's got a beautiful home in Atlanta that his entire
Speaker 1: basement is a museum, a shrine to him, not just him,
Speaker 1: but a lot of stuff of him, but a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. No, it's it's well done. It's very very
Speaker 1: nice of Yeah. What about Vera. I used to collect
Speaker 1: jerseys at the end of my career for guys that
Speaker 1: you know, I liked the way they play, the Scott
Speaker 1: Rowlands and Bagwell's piazza others. Have you been to Marianna
Speaker 1: Rivera's house? I have not. Oh, sorry that it's really nice. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really nice. It should be the greatest reliever one
Speaker 1: hundred percent cent guy. Yeah, is he the most automatic
Speaker 1: player in baseball history? Almost? Like where you go? I
Speaker 1: know what is going to happen? Now? I know that
Speaker 1: he had some tragic loss, you know losses there in
Speaker 1: playoff games, but for the most part, and nobody could copy.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't people copy that pitch? Got it? Well? I had,
Speaker 1: I had a cutter. There's guys that have cutters. What
Speaker 1: Mariano did was his delivery was impeccable. He was the same.
Speaker 1: If you take a video of Mariano six and then
Speaker 1: take it right to the end of his career and
Speaker 1: just superimposed it. Other than just being maybe a little
Speaker 1: heavier and getting older, it was identical. So his ability
Speaker 1: to be in the same slot and just make the
Speaker 1: same pitch. And also Dan, this is the other thing.
Speaker 1: If we watched when I watched games, like I'm watching
Speaker 1: last night Dustin may strowing one hundred miles an Now
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch tonight, Bueller. I look at tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: I look at tomorrow night. I'm sorry, Yeah, we have
Speaker 1: a day off. Sorry, thank you. I look at you
Speaker 1: could get it out. You've been mentioned about analytics. If
Speaker 1: we're saying that that Dan Patrick, we got to bust
Speaker 1: him inside purbowl in the dirt. I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: go inside. That's my that's my intent, and I miss
Speaker 1: and you pop one up to the shortstop. So you're
Speaker 1: going to get a whole analytics team to write it
Speaker 1: down and got him out, and Dan Patrick popped up
Speaker 1: to short I'd missed my spot. And the plan was
Speaker 1: to exploit your weakness. What Mariano did was he had
Speaker 1: the unbelievable cutter in that mid nineties range that had
Speaker 1: late break and then when once you started he sensed
Speaker 1: that you were on it, he'd now dot away like
Speaker 1: he was so good at barely ever being in the
Speaker 1: middle of the plate. And then he had a unique
Speaker 1: pitch that at the last six seven feet just just moved.
Speaker 1: But how many pictures do you think could tell the
Speaker 1: batter what is coming and they wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: hit it. Aside from Marianna because you knew the cutter
Speaker 1: was coming and they still couldn't hit it. Who else
Speaker 1: if you said, hey, I'm fastball, curveball, change up, whatever,
Speaker 1: what pictures would come in? I think Trevor Bauer tried
Speaker 1: that because he did. Yeah, didn't he Maybe all time grades.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Trevor Bauer. Yes, Zack Grinky I think
Speaker 1: did it too. Yeah, like Steve Carlton throwing his slider,
Speaker 1: was you know that? Yeah, I mean Randy Johnson comes
Speaker 1: to mind. I think that. You know, he was so
Speaker 1: imposing the delivery from low three quarters slot, coming from
Speaker 1: like first base, like he was scary. Guys didn't want
Speaker 1: to face him, uncomfortable at bats. Roger Clemens certainly, Pedro
Speaker 1: You know, there were certain guys where you just you
Speaker 1: were deep before that I played. I got a chance
Speaker 1: to play with Kevin Brown in ninety six ninety seven.
Speaker 1: We won the World Series of ninety seven beat the Indians.
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety six, as a teammate watching live every
Speaker 1: single start, I hadn't seen a motor dominant pitcher from
Speaker 1: April until the end of the season. Thank Kevin Brown.
Speaker 1: He could that year. That year he could have said
Speaker 1: here it has hit it and guys just couldn't barrel it.
Speaker 1: Late movement and plus velocity. He threw a heavy ball
Speaker 1: too right, heavy ball, huge sinker, really good slider came
Speaker 1: up with this little split thing. Yeah he was. He
Speaker 1: was dominant. I'm going to submit this tape where you
Speaker 1: thought the World Series was tonight to the Sports Emmy people.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sabotage your your guys champs. Yes, no, wonder
Speaker 1: why I keep losing that categories. It's great, great to
Speaker 1: talk to you all. Yeah, always, thank you, Bud, say
Speaker 1: hello everybody. That's all lighter. MLB Network analyst may win Awards,
Speaker 1: three time World Series Chay right in our face. He
Speaker 1: had the Sports in our category cold Blood. Do you
Speaker 1: think that it was on the desk or he put
Speaker 1: it on the deck? I could tell you when he
Speaker 1: set up the zoom, he was twisting the computer and
Speaker 1: angling it so all the awards were fronted. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: but it was still a little hidden in the backs,
Speaker 1: and if he was being cute, he still had like
Speaker 1: the Clemente and the Rickey were kind of was it
Speaker 1: really hidden you could see the globe players. I think
Speaker 1: he was hidden just enough for us to notice it.
Speaker 1: Oh what this oh this little thing? Oh hardcore? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he thought the World Series was tonight. That's gonna
Speaker 1: come back and haunt him. Yeah, but he did it
Speaker 1: on our show, so he's actually just sabotaged us O. No,
Speaker 1: I called him out, so now you got it back
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl back. Now we're finding they could move
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl back as far as a month. Now.
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Speaker 1: last resort. The league is still resisting as long as
Speaker 1: possible tacking on an eighteenth week onto the regular season.
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Speaker 1: with the Titans, where you're missing a couple of weeks,
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Speaker 1: seven seven three D show email address DPA Dan Patrick
Speaker 1: dot com Jesse and Los Angeles's back. Hey, Jess, how
Speaker 1: are your day? Hey? If be good morning guys. Thanks
Speaker 1: shaking my call. Yeah, hey, first I gotta figure real quickly.
Speaker 1: That's usually on the astroists. We're going to missing and
Speaker 1: gave five off kersh. That's the epitome of a good shooter.
Speaker 1: You don't want to get everything right when you're cheating.
Speaker 1: You gotta sprinkle on a few bad answers. But h
Speaker 1: but hey man, Yeah, the best part about last night's
Speaker 1: game was John Smolts. Wow. Like I've heard him for years,
Speaker 1: but last night was the first time I really listened
Speaker 1: to him, and the lighthulb went off of my head.
Speaker 1: For example, you know, most people who watch the game
Speaker 1: think these batteries it's nothing, what's so hard and schmultz.
Speaker 1: But the overlaid chart broke down. Blake snows four pitches,
Speaker 1: how they look, how they break, and then goes in
Speaker 1: that left the right handed batter aim and how it
Speaker 1: breaks differently on them, And then I'm sitting there going
Speaker 1: ah ha. But it's like, now I'm even more confused
Speaker 1: of how these batters actually made contact with that? All right,
Speaker 1: thank you, Jess. Yeah, I try to tell people about
Speaker 1: John and how good he is, and you do have
Speaker 1: to listen. And I don't think that we're watching full
Speaker 1: baseball games. You know, we'll watch complete football college and pro.
Speaker 1: We probably watched a lot more full basketball games. But
Speaker 1: if you listen to John Smoltz break down a game,
Speaker 1: you will learn something every single time. And it's never
Speaker 1: and I told you so. He doesn't talk down to you.
Speaker 1: He talks with you. He speaks to you, and it's
Speaker 1: just to simplify the game. And he does an unbelievable job.
Speaker 1: I know we want to trumpet Tony Romo. John Smoltz
Speaker 1: is every bit, if not better than Tony Romo in
Speaker 1: his sport because he can tell you what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: but he also tells you all of this other information.
Speaker 1: And we love minusha the little things. That's what we love.
Speaker 1: When somebody points out something, you go, I never would
Speaker 1: have known that, And that's what John does. And look territorial.
Speaker 1: I'm friends with John, and I you know, I'm happy
Speaker 1: for his success. I think Joe Buck does a wonderful
Speaker 1: job in letting John Smolts be the star of the
Speaker 1: World Series of the postseason and not all play by
Speaker 1: play guys will do that. But you know, Dan Joe
Speaker 1: Buck knows his baseball coming from all those years with
Speaker 1: his father and with the Cardinals, And you know, Joe
Speaker 1: could be an analyst, but Joe lets John be the star.
Speaker 1: All right? Coming up next hour, I guess there's a
Speaker 1: new debate on analytics and the NFL. It has to
Speaker 1: do with the two point conversion? Is it smart to
Speaker 1: go for the two point conversion all the time? Mike
Speaker 1: Florio is upset? Dare I say Mike Florio had a
Speaker 1: rant about this? And I'll play a portion of a
Speaker 1: rant from Mike Florio. Yeah, Paully. Was it laced with
Speaker 1: the swear words? As I always saying, No, it's just
Speaker 1: a It was a rant on Pro Football Talk with
Speaker 1: Chris Simms goes off? Does he go off? I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a rant. I don't. You'll be to
Speaker 1: you have to decide if it's did he go off?
Speaker 1: And I teased this yesterday. I'd actually forgot about it.
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to build up the suspense. If the
Speaker 1: Falcons decided to get rid of Matt Ryan, where would
Speaker 1: he go? Or Julio Jones, I have my suggestions and
Speaker 1: i'll have that for you coming up in ten minutes