Speaker 1: The water in an ice cream Pala really, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it hits different folks, and that's how I took Pala.
Speaker 2: You sound like my baby who's starting to say car
Speaker 2: right now, but he's mad with like he's only good
Speaker 2: with one syllables.
Speaker 1: He's like, ca, yeah, Boston, your baby. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: we're going to get the Cali the Pali. He also
Speaker 1: calls me Pali for Pali. He calls me Pa.
Speaker 2: All right, Pa, all right, Pa, alright, twenty five dollar
Speaker 2: twenty five for you Pa.
Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, forty nine,
Speaker 1: Episode four of It's a production of by Heart Radio,
Speaker 1: and it's a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America share consciousness. And it's Thursday, August first, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. It's August. Shit, get it you guys. Shit,
Speaker 1: it's already August.
Speaker 2: I told November to take their fucking time, and it's
Speaker 2: fucking August.
Speaker 1: Get your shit together, calendar. Well, August first is Respect
Speaker 1: for Parents'.
Speaker 3: Day, National Raspberry Cream Pie Day, Minority Donor Awareness Day,
Speaker 3: which is actually important, National Girlfriend's Day, and International Majong.
Speaker 2: Day for all of mine, people who played a rich day.
Speaker 1: Lots of different important things, specifically my girlfriend who you
Speaker 1: haven't met, but she is cool and lives in Canada.
Speaker 2: It's not about made up girlfriends from junior high. This
Speaker 2: is about I think friendship between okay girl friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like the way that my mom talks about
Speaker 1: her friends as her girlfriends. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you remember hearing that the first time as a
Speaker 2: kid and you're like, dude, what, oh my god? Yeah, freak,
Speaker 2: I'm fucking I'm seven and I only know one definition
Speaker 2: that means romantic partner.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's I was like, wait, Auntie, I'm like, Auntie,
Speaker 1: Mutsie's your girlfriend. She's like, no, that's just shut up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe he's just a girl that is my friend. Shout
Speaker 1: out Alicia Keys. Shout out Alicia Keys. My name is
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien. AKA, hey, I just sat here. My name's
Speaker 1: j D. This glove is rubber, so fuck me. Maybe
Speaker 1: that one courtesy of the Great Christy I'm a Gucci
Speaker 1: Man on the discord a song sung two a Couch
Speaker 1: from JD Vance. I like the way he's kind of
Speaker 1: being coy in the way he's approaching the couch. Yeah. Maybe, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just this love is here and it's rubber. In
Speaker 1: case you think enough already with the jd Vance couch stuff.
Speaker 1: He seems like he might be leaning into it or
Speaker 1: I don't know, We're going to get into it a
Speaker 1: little bit later, but it does seem to be having
Speaker 1: an impact. He's certainly aware. Yeah, he's certainly aware. He
Speaker 1: might be trying to lean into it and just you know,
Speaker 1: in typical jd Vance fashion, doing it awkwardly and badly
Speaker 1: the wrong way. Yeah, but yeah, But anyways, I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, mister
Speaker 1: Miles Gray.
Speaker 4: Miles Gray, A kay, but I'm a beep. I'm a
Speaker 4: weird What the hell am I doing here? There ain't
Speaker 4: no couch.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Steaming Chuck on the discord. We are
Speaker 2: a weep and we are a weirdo, aren't we, folks?
Speaker 2: Steaming Chuck, thank you for that the stuff. What do
Speaker 2: you yeah, how do you.
Speaker 1: Think JD Vance's karaoke song selection changed over the course
Speaker 1: of you know, his from when he first came onto
Speaker 1: the national scene in twenty sixteen to now. You know,
Speaker 1: he's probably like all Toby Keith now, but I bet
Speaker 1: he was a creep back in the day, you know,
Speaker 1: he seemed like he had some self loathing going on. Anyways, Miles, Yes,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled, fortunate, blessed to be joined in our
Speaker 1: third seat by a very talented writer, stand up comedian,
Speaker 1: one of our favorite guests, co host of The Bechdel Cast,
Speaker 1: one of the great film podcasts. They also happen to
Speaker 1: have a master's degree in film. The most anagrammable name
Speaker 1: in the English language, so if you've been given their
Speaker 1: name in a jumble of out of order scrabble tiles,
Speaker 1: you might know them as lorn and d Titanic or
Speaker 1: nine tit Dracula or Latin dancer ut I. But to us,
Speaker 1: they will always be Caitlind.
Speaker 5: I'm back, Yes, you are you back?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Oh my god, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for being here.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh. Nothing's up, down up, suspiciously. Yeah, nothing's
Speaker 6: at that normal over here. Yeah, paid no attention when.
Speaker 1: You fucking leave me alone? Man, Next question, Urana, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what what's good? We were talking Titanic sequels before before
Speaker 1: the show started and were shocked. I was personally flabbergasted
Speaker 1: to find that these obscure Titanic sequels were films that
Speaker 1: you were familiar with. Well, are you really that shocked
Speaker 1: about that? Also taken up back, calling them Titanic sequels
Speaker 1: is a bit of a stretch because they're not sequels
Speaker 1: to James Cameron's Titanic nineteen ninety seven, for example, But
Speaker 1: they are. I mean, I guess if you're just looking
Speaker 1: at Titanic as a cinematic universe, which you could I do.
Speaker 1: So they're you know, they're in the lexicon, they're they're
Speaker 1: they're in the zeitgeist. Will But the first see, the
Speaker 1: first film that we're talking about, was called Titanic two,
Speaker 1: so that does make it seem that implied, but it's no,
Speaker 1: it's just that it's named after the ship featured in
Speaker 1: that movie, the ship, because it's a replica of the
Speaker 1: original Titanic. God damn, that just blew my mind. In
Speaker 1: in universe, it's.
Speaker 7: Titanic too, exactly. How about that? Amazing?
Speaker 1: And in universe they for whatever reason called it Titanic two,
Speaker 1: starring Leonardo DiCaprio in universe Billy Zane's Titanic two. By
Speaker 1: all right, Caitlin, we are going to get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
Speaker 1: going to tell the listeners. A couple of the things
Speaker 1: that we're talking about on today's episode. We're going to
Speaker 1: get into the deep steaks, folks. That's the next big event,
Speaker 1: is the thing that a lot of people are speculating about.
Speaker 1: There are betting markets happening. So we just want to
Speaker 1: talk about the stakes and who Kamala is going to pick,
Speaker 1: and you know, who she should pick. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about it, and maybe who she shouldn't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're going to check in with the weirdness. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: just how jd Vance is dealing with being the vice
Speaker 1: presidential candidate. Yeah, we need him cool, calm and collected.
Speaker 1: He's just yeah, you know, it is now officially the
Speaker 1: main story of the Trump campaign is like, Wow, that
Speaker 1: was a bad VP pick, and so he is not
Speaker 1: dealing super well with that. We'll talk about that. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about his childless cat lady.
Speaker 6: Thing right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, along with a lot of the country
Speaker 1: are child cats. Yeah, and fucked up. Not a good pick.
Speaker 7: We might talk about this Netflix interview show starring dead
Speaker 7: people that I have a lot of questions about. Basically,
Speaker 7: it's like we interview someone right before they die.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's like the production. That means, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like the thesis of the shows we present to you.
Speaker 1: The last interview somebody did before they die. That's pretty
Speaker 1: grim and how metal. How like the booking job. This
Speaker 1: has to be the hardest show. Like, how are you
Speaker 1: approaching people? How long does miss Lansbury have to live? Right,
Speaker 1: we'll check back in a couple of months. We were hoping.
Speaker 1: She was like right there.
Speaker 6: You know, you know those like in like retirement communities
Speaker 6: or nursing homes, there will be like a cat speaking
Speaker 6: of cats. Yes, they'll like sense that someone's about to die,
Speaker 6: and then they like go into their room and like
Speaker 6: wait for a couple of hours. Maybe they like follow
Speaker 6: the cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yeah, a little bit of yeah.
Speaker 6: And they're like, oh, they went into this person's room,
Speaker 6: let's interview them, and then like an hour later they die.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that. I like that. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's and if they did that that would be compelling.
Speaker 1: That would be really good TV. Yeah, So anyways, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that the cat of death. We follow the
Speaker 1: cat through an old folks home and interview the person
Speaker 1: they think will die. All of that plenty more. But
Speaker 1: first Kitlyn. We do like to ask our guests, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history that's revealing about who
Speaker 1: you are?
Speaker 6: Okay? So I googled Heaven's Gate Old, yes, because because
Speaker 6: I was like, I let me just tell you the story.
Speaker 6: Let me back up a minute ago.
Speaker 1: I bet you're wondering how Caitlin got to the search
Speaker 1: history record scratch. There was a duop.
Speaker 2: Group on every street court, So where do we start
Speaker 2: this one?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 1: Sorry, so no, I love that search history story.
Speaker 6: Wow, I love that Deadpool is a verb.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: I was watching the movie The Fabulous Four, which is
Speaker 6: in theaters currently. If you're not familiar, it is basically
Speaker 6: book Club, except Susan Sarandon is in at this time
Speaker 6: in Staph Jane Fonda. It's four older women going on
Speaker 6: a vacation. So it's it's that genre of movie which
Speaker 6: I'm usually not very interested in, but I was like,
Speaker 6: maybe I should just like give it a shot. Whatever,
Speaker 6: So I want to go see it. It's horrible and
Speaker 6: all of the jokes fell flat for me, and yeah,
Speaker 6: I imagine that. Yeah, the writing was not good. And
Speaker 6: they keep referring to this retirement community called Heaven's Gate
Speaker 6: that like this one woman's daughter's urging her to like
Speaker 6: go to even though it like nothing would indicate that
Speaker 6: she would need to do that at this juncture in
Speaker 6: her life. But she's like super religious and she's like, mom,
Speaker 6: you should go to this. The daughter is who's urging
Speaker 6: her to go, and so she's like, go to this
Speaker 6: like Christian retirement community. It's called Heaven's Gate, and you
Speaker 6: like see the broke sure and all this stuff, and
Speaker 6: so they keep talking about it, and it's so it's
Speaker 6: clearly setting up a joke that it's like, no, it's
Speaker 6: a cult. It haven't you heard of the cult? But
Speaker 6: they never make that joke. So I was like, am
Speaker 6: I imagining things? And so like in the middle of
Speaker 6: the theater, which I was in basically not exactly by myself,
Speaker 6: but I was far enough back that I was like,
Speaker 6: I feel okay about.
Speaker 1: You could have heard that the flap top and it
Speaker 1: would have been okay, right, So.
Speaker 6: I pull up my phone. I was like, Heaven's Skate
Speaker 6: is a cult, right, Like why wouldn't they like make
Speaker 6: this connection, make this joke. Sure enough, it is a cult,
Speaker 6: it's correct.
Speaker 2: So you thought they were like fucking with your sense
Speaker 2: of reality because they weren't paying off this reference to
Speaker 2: heav Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was like, well, maybe it's called something else. Maybe
Speaker 6: I'm confusing it with another thing, Like yeah, so that's
Speaker 6: how much this movie was trying to gaslight me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Looks by the way, like, yeah, truly have the tracksuits right?
Speaker 1: The tracksuits with they had to stop making What were
Speaker 1: the nikes? Were they? They?
Speaker 2: They they looked like a Cortes but there but it's
Speaker 2: not a Cortes. It's they're called decades Okay, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they I'm pretty sure they stopped making them because everyone
Speaker 2: was rocked. They're like, we don't need this endorsement for
Speaker 2: the sneaker. Yeah, total dad chew.
Speaker 7: So it's probably a studio note, like they had a
Speaker 7: joke in there, and then the studio was like, this
Speaker 7: is a little bleak for people, for an audience we're
Speaker 7: aiming for who is about to die.
Speaker 2: But did the heavens like did they ever go to
Speaker 2: the retirement home? And it had culty vibes, so it
Speaker 2: felt like.
Speaker 6: Okay, doesn't end up being like a plot point or anything,
Speaker 6: but they are talking about it enough and the movie
Speaker 6: is attempting to be a comedy, so you would think
Speaker 6: that they would work that joke in there, right, but
Speaker 6: they just don't do it. Yeah, just check out something.
Speaker 1: But you could make the same joke and do like
Speaker 1: Heaven's waiting room or Heaven's lobby or you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like something where it's like you're about to
Speaker 1: the pearly Gates because you but you can't. You may
Speaker 1: not call it Heaven's Gate without us expecting you to
Speaker 1: eventually talk about Marshall apple White, the cult leader who
Speaker 1: got everybody that killed themselves after castrating himself. I remember,
Speaker 1: they're going to catch you right on hillbop, Yeah, hell bop.
Speaker 1: Like they had such rich lore, like it was really
Speaker 1: a fun world building.
Speaker 2: Man, Maybe they could have taken a note from the
Speaker 2: cult and did the little fucking world building.
Speaker 1: Than seriously, right man? Anyways, the Fabulous Four? Is that
Speaker 1: what we're calling what the film was that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, not to be confused with The Fantastic Four.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, did you watch speaking of those like sort
Speaker 2: of like late in life comedies, did you watch the
Speaker 2: one about Tom Brady.
Speaker 6: Eighty for Brady?
Speaker 1: I did not see that one, okay, because that feels
Speaker 1: like sort of firmly in this genre.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, and Jane Fonda is in most of these movies,
Speaker 6: so it's kind of wild that you.
Speaker 7: Could against fabulous. I'm fabulous for anything. It's fucked up,
Speaker 7: it is fucked up. I do feel like eighty for
Speaker 7: Brady did pretty well and became a like thing that
Speaker 7: people reference in the culture and the culture of very
Speaker 7: old people. And the studio note was like, we need
Speaker 7: to put like a number in the title for this
Speaker 7: next one, you know what I mean. Like, I feel
Speaker 7: like that I'm seeing a lot of studio fingerprints all
Speaker 7: over this one, right right, Yeah, feels feels cynical to me.
Speaker 7: It doesn't feel like real art. The working title was
Speaker 7: an ornie for tom just maybe dial that back a
Speaker 7: little bit.
Speaker 1: Let's dial it back. What, Caitlyn, what's something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated?
Speaker 6: So imagine this. All of my things are movie related.
Speaker 6: Something I think is if you want to see a
Speaker 6: movie about an old person that's really good and fun,
Speaker 6: go check out Thelma. And I say that it's like,
Speaker 6: I feel like I put it in the underrated category
Speaker 6: just because, like I think a lot of people haven't
Speaker 6: seen it or aren't talking about it. It's a movie
Speaker 6: about an old woman. She's like ninety one or something
Speaker 6: played by someone whose name I should already know.
Speaker 1: June Squib Yes, oh joom squib.
Speaker 5: I m j Yeah, and it's about It's like she
Speaker 5: gets kind of duped by a phone scammer and then
Speaker 5: decides she's gonna get her money back, so she goes
Speaker 5: on this like quest to get her money back, and
Speaker 5: there's like a lot of mission impossible, like spy espionage type.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was super fun and highly recommend people go
Speaker 6: see Thelma.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and uh, the late Richard Tree is also
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 6: Did he recently die?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Yeah rip, Yeah, this is getting incredible reviews. June squib
Speaker 1: one of our finest. June Squib was like kind of
Speaker 1: not discovered late, like she was a working actor, but
Speaker 1: like is having her big breakthrough kind of later in
Speaker 1: the Squibs Squibs. Yes, we were all living through the Squibbistance. Yes,
Speaker 1: I love that. What else has June squib been in
Speaker 1: my Internet? Has stopped working for anything except this?
Speaker 2: I remember she was definitely in Hubie Halloween because she
Speaker 2: was Hubie's mom.
Speaker 1: Okay and hub Halloween. I remember that part we can
Speaker 1: stop it, Hue that was what her fine work in
Speaker 1: uh Nebraska? Yeah? What was she in about Schmidt? She
Speaker 1: was yes, okay, yeah, yeah. I think that was like
Speaker 1: one of her early roles. But she wasn't an animal Kingdom,
Speaker 1: was she? I didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't think, Yeah, the most unsatisfying it. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna look it up. But if you feel strongly about it,
Speaker 2: I won't push back.
Speaker 1: Sure, go with it. What is something, Caitlin you think
Speaker 1: is overrated?
Speaker 6: Another movie?
Speaker 1: Long Legs, Long Legs.
Speaker 6: Sorry, everyone, but.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, back to back Long Legs takes on
Speaker 1: the show this week?
Speaker 6: Oh wait what what? What else was saying?
Speaker 1: Yesterday's guests were like it just check it out.
Speaker 2: It's fine, it's fun. Don't look into it too much.
Speaker 2: If you like horror, great watch it.
Speaker 1: Boom.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like sort of like a like a full
Speaker 2: endorsement like this is the greatest thing. It's like, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's fun, it's just watch it.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it is worth the watch for
Speaker 6: some of the things.
Speaker 1: And don't got ajust, you got your own do you
Speaker 1: know your own opinion? Is it fucking bullshit?
Speaker 6: I thought it was really good until about the midpoint,
Speaker 6: and then it lost me, but I thought, I mean,
Speaker 6: it's an effective horror thriller. I was, I was feeling
Speaker 6: on edge the tensions there, but I think it gets
Speaker 6: really goofy world building wise about halfway through and then
Speaker 6: it completely lost me. So it was I was just
Speaker 6: trying to do too much. So I feel like it
Speaker 6: didn't live up to the hype.
Speaker 7: What.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember I felt like everyone was like,
Speaker 2: oh I saw it, more than like, oh, it's the
Speaker 2: best movie I've seen. Like, I felt like a lot
Speaker 2: of people were just like yeah, I saw it, and it.
Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, it was cool. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I guess now like when the early reviews were coming out,
Speaker 6: you were I was like hearing things like I ship.
Speaker 1: My pants, get ready ship your pants. I know how
Speaker 1: to move to change them. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Part of the marketing was the lead actor, whose name
Speaker 6: I also don't.
Speaker 1: Know, Nicholas Yep, forgotten. I got this one, this one
Speaker 1: Micah Monroe.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, there was this clip of her approaching Nicholas
Speaker 6: Cage's character for the first time in the scene like
Speaker 6: she hadn't seen him in his makeup like in character
Speaker 6: until she was like as long as long legs. And
Speaker 6: also my letterboxed review for this movie was like, his
Speaker 6: legs weren't even that.
Speaker 1: Long, misleading. It does play into your favorite format of
Speaker 1: film review about radioactive Yes, but he was named after
Speaker 1: a dang spider, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh but in the trailer, yeah, they are being like
Speaker 2: one hundred percent on rotten tomatos. They are definitely needing
Speaker 2: it to be like flawless Victory, And I would.
Speaker 6: Say that is incorrect in my humble, yet expert film opinion.
Speaker 7: Your victory long legs just fucked your whole ship up.
Speaker 1: It made you, made you ship in your pants and
Speaker 1: we're not paying for new pants. Guys being so mean
Speaker 1: to us wick at you you ship your pants and
Speaker 1: everybody himself? What what? Why are you? Are you so freddy?
Speaker 1: This is like already already horror film. Yeah, but I'll
Speaker 1: tell you one thing. It has long legs. At the
Speaker 1: box office, I had to say, still earning, still earning.
Speaker 1: It's neons top top film of all time.
Speaker 6: So oh okay, yeah, all right, good for well, I
Speaker 6: mean good for that for them, it's worth seeing. I
Speaker 6: just don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 6: It deserves quite all the hype that.
Speaker 1: Flawless score. Go watch Blake Wexler's stand up special daddy
Speaker 1: long legs and yeah, okay, yeah, how about that? Support
Speaker 1: local artists?
Speaker 7: How about that? Okay, you want to support local artists.
Speaker 7: You want to support long legs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to support long about a daddy is
Speaker 2: daddy too with long legs, not some NEPO baby named Nicholas.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, I'm gonna hear your uncles.
Speaker 8: Really making a scene on set to the nick. Oh
Speaker 8: did you read that report?
Speaker 2: I remember when we were first talking about Megalopolis and
Speaker 2: how he was like being fucking like he was touching
Speaker 2: women and trying to kiss them during like the block
Speaker 2: and all type scenes. Wait, yeah yeah yeah, And now
Speaker 2: like more reporting has come out to be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think a video is coming, he has sex grip gross,
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get him in the mood.
Speaker 1: You're like, dude, this isn't sixty two, right, and that
Speaker 1: also wasn't appropriate. Yeah, yeah, but that's how we did things.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, well, you know we've moved along. He's like,
Speaker 1: dear lord, I sold a whole fingyard for this.
Speaker 7: All right, right, let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 7: come back talk about deep steaks, and we're back. We're back,
Speaker 7: and what's going on?
Speaker 1: So there's presidential's going on president you know, and while so.
Speaker 2: My question is call me Marvin Gay because I'm about
Speaker 2: to ask, what's what's going on? Exactly one of the
Speaker 2: great albums, flawless album actually.
Speaker 1: But the polls, look, here's what's going on. Just made
Speaker 1: you ship your whole love this. The polls look much
Speaker 1: better for Harris than Biden.
Speaker 2: There's that the numbers seem to show that she's closing
Speaker 2: the gap between her and Trump. She also had a
Speaker 2: pretty enthusiastic crowd in Atlanta on Tuesday night, like an
Speaker 2: actual arena, was like was filled with people that real
Speaker 2: hear yeah, that were real people that were cheering sincerely,
Speaker 2: and there was a speech that had full sentences and
Speaker 2: no meandering and no sundowning. So comparatively, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is they got something going here. So the vibes
Speaker 2: are up, but they can be destroyed just as quickly,
Speaker 2: since the VP pick is sort of the last step
Speaker 2: to cementing the ticket and so there's a lot of like,
Speaker 2: who's it going to be? Is a Jamie Pritzkers, Gretchen Whitmer,
Speaker 2: is it Secretary Pete Buotages, is it Governor Tim Waltz
Speaker 2: of Minnesota, Governor Joshapiro of Pennsylvania, or Senator Mark Kelly
Speaker 2: of Arizona.
Speaker 1: Those last three seemed to be the ones that the
Speaker 1: media is really.
Speaker 2: Kind of dialing in on, and they all offer different
Speaker 2: things to the camp PA, Like Waltz gets you a
Speaker 2: lot more young people and progressives, and he's got like
Speaker 2: a you know, a style of speaking to people that
Speaker 2: appeals to like, like from what they see like swing
Speaker 2: state voters.
Speaker 1: Mark Kelly has like border and immigration cred on top
Speaker 1: of being a yes and astronaut.
Speaker 2: And Shapiro has a sixty percent approval rating in one
Speaker 2: of the more important swing states that Harris needs to
Speaker 2: win the electoral college and one of the states that
Speaker 2: she's performed underperforming in that is I think they're looking
Speaker 2: at like, oh, that could help shore things up. And
Speaker 2: there's a lot of chatter now about Shapiro because it's
Speaker 2: sounds like Harris will be announcing her pick.
Speaker 1: Next week in Philadelphia, so a lot of people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe the maybe.
Speaker 8: That means the governor of that state where you're gonna
Speaker 8: be announcing the pick.
Speaker 2: But apparently the aides have told the press like don't
Speaker 2: look into the location too much. It's just like just
Speaker 2: like a focal point to begin this tour of you know,
Speaker 2: some of the swing states that they need to hit.
Speaker 2: But this is all just on paper. So, you know,
Speaker 2: is Shapiro going to clinch it?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: If you look at the electoral college mac right, Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: has four more electoral college votes than Michigan and nine
Speaker 2: more than Wisconsin. So if Democrats win Pennsylvania those other
Speaker 2: two states, they can lose and still have a plausible
Speaker 2: electoral college victory path. The research, though, shows that VP
Speaker 2: picks seldom actually translate to any kind of advantage in
Speaker 2: terms of home state turnout and support. So while a
Speaker 2: lot of people seem to be applying the logic of
Speaker 2: Harris is down in Pennsylvania and Shapiro is popular there,
Speaker 2: so he should be the pick, so she wins Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: there's no real merit to that argument, Like it's not
Speaker 2: really born out in the data that you see, like
Speaker 2: historically when it comes to presidential elections. So that's really
Speaker 2: like the only first tier argument I hear for him
Speaker 2: like that, you know, like that's the only I'm sure
Speaker 2: there are other are you like I guess the whole
Speaker 2: mainstream media is doing their thing where they're like she
Speaker 2: needs to tack even more to the center, okay, like
Speaker 2: to the right, and he is the probably forthest right person,
Speaker 2: but right it, I don't know. He seems polished in
Speaker 2: a way that I think doesn't work that well or
Speaker 2: doesn't like add much to because she's already fairly like
Speaker 2: polished in a way that I think some people find
Speaker 2: unappealing in like Democrats, and then like his politics seem
Speaker 2: to be the worst, and then the Yeah, the only
Speaker 2: positive argument I've heard is like beloved in Pennsylvania. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they've been they I was watching MSNBC this morning,
Speaker 2: like they were talking to like potential Latino voters who
Speaker 2: are there, like I don't like. They were saying like
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I like Shapiro, so that might
Speaker 2: help me. And sure that's one person. But they were
Speaker 2: presenting it as if like, see that person said they're
Speaker 2: more interested if it is Shapiro. But again, this isn't
Speaker 2: something that's supported by data. And again, if you're trying
Speaker 2: to look more moderate, then yeah, Shapiro definitely helps with
Speaker 2: that because there are people like you know, there's like
Speaker 2: saying that Kamala Harris is like two left wing and
Speaker 2: are like folks, sure, but no, let's be real here.
Speaker 2: And like you said, his politics could definitely affect support
Speaker 2: among younger and progressives, younger voters and progressive voters because
Speaker 2: he's a staunch supporter of Israel, like he attacked like
Speaker 2: as attorney general, he was like coming after Ben and
Speaker 2: Jerry's because they're like, we actually don't want to like
Speaker 2: sell Ben and Jerry's in like illegal settlements.
Speaker 1: And he's like the BDS movement is out of control.
Speaker 2: He called student protesters who are protesting the genocide and
Speaker 2: goaza like white supremacists and compared them to the KKK.
Speaker 1: He's like, down for school about your stuff.
Speaker 2: It's not great policy at all. And I think Harris
Speaker 2: seems to understand, I guess somewhat. I mean, like when
Speaker 2: net and Yahoo was in town, she didn't meet with him.
Speaker 2: She had another engagement, but apparently was going to meet
Speaker 2: in private. So a lot of people are like, well,
Speaker 2: at least it sounds like visually she knows what how
Speaker 2: to not appear because of this very delicate situation considering
Speaker 2: the plight of Palestinian people at the moment, and that
Speaker 2: needs to be handled delicately, and I think especially now
Speaker 2: because if you look at the news recently, Net and
Speaker 2: Yahoo seems to be escalating things to a potential regional war,
Speaker 2: like there have been a Hamas like and other Iran
Speaker 2: proxy people who have been assassinated in the capitals of
Speaker 2: Lebanon and Iran.
Speaker 1: Okay, and getting.
Speaker 2: Further embroiled in armed conflict is the last thing I
Speaker 2: think most people. I mean, I think most people are like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck? What?
Speaker 1: What? What do you need to know?
Speaker 2: We don't want to fucking get involved in another war.
Speaker 2: So everyone's calculus isn't the same. But this is also
Speaker 2: why I think it's important for the Harris campaign to
Speaker 2: really begin articulating her policy positions on things like you know,
Speaker 2: Medicare for all or like pathways to citizenship Because while
Speaker 2: Mark Kelly gives you immigration cred because he's like in
Speaker 2: a border state, that might not play well with people
Speaker 2: who are a little bit disappointed to hear like what
Speaker 2: about pathways to citizenship? Like where we with that? What
Speaker 2: are these other things that are gonna really bring out
Speaker 2: more and more support?
Speaker 1: So is Kelly like tough on crime, border guy actually yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a border hawk. Some might say fun.
Speaker 2: So that I think that's why there's all this kind
Speaker 2: of like what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: Like who's going to be the best?
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I mean I feel like from
Speaker 2: what I've seen, Tim Waltz offers a lot. He seems
Speaker 2: pretty relatable. He's really popular in Minnesota too. But then
Speaker 2: other people were like, but he was the governor during
Speaker 2: the George Floyd stuff that was happening in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: and like what can you do against those It's all
Speaker 2: everyone's got their reason to not or to support, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's there's you know, the Democrats could make the right
Speaker 2: decision or one that doesn't seem to fracture the support,
Speaker 2: because right now it feels like people because Kamala isn't
Speaker 2: quite fully tied to Biden's policies, obviously she is by
Speaker 2: being vice president, like there is this honeymoon period where
Speaker 2: people can pretend like, I don't know, she might be
Speaker 2: completely different than what's happening right now, and so a
Speaker 2: VP pick may kind of reinforce the thing as like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is basically this is the Biden campaign all over again.
Speaker 2: Or is this something different to have a bigger coalition
Speaker 2: of voter support.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So the mainstream media takes I've read,
Speaker 1: and this is gonna shock you guys a little bit
Speaker 1: if you've paid attention to the mainstream media ever over
Speaker 1: the past thirty years. They think she's gonna need to
Speaker 1: tax center on this one. No way, I know, righty.
Speaker 1: Their read on the situation is that her campaign fell
Speaker 1: apart in twenty twenty when she tried to embrace her
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen when she tried to embrace like left leaning
Speaker 1: policy positions, and of course by embrace we mean may
Speaker 1: hollow gestures and speeches without like having any ideologically coherent
Speaker 1: like you know, grasp and so almost feels like very
Speaker 1: centrist to me after all, to not actually embrace it
Speaker 1: but just like make gestures and not have actual ideological
Speaker 1: content in your platform. But I don't know she's.
Speaker 2: Got again, there's an opportunity to really firm up support
Speaker 2: by you know, having things that people want, policies that
Speaker 2: people want, and for all this like tack to the center.
Speaker 2: I'm like, the most Democrats and most of the people
Speaker 2: you're trying to appeel to want things like like universal
Speaker 2: health care right, want things like pathways for citizenship, want
Speaker 2: things like a ceasefire, and with what I mean, Nen,
Speaker 2: Yahoo's completely really change the playing field here, because like
Speaker 2: you're you're negotiating with Hamas for a ceasefire, but you're
Speaker 2: going after like you're assassinating they're the heads there, and
Speaker 2: like how do negotiations go forward in that instance? It
Speaker 2: feels like that it's really doesn't know, it's it can
Speaker 2: only go downhill from here. Yeah, so yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: can be a lot can change, but I can also
Speaker 2: like you know, we also see this habit constantly come
Speaker 2: out from Democrats, which is like don't yeah, don't too
Speaker 2: too much progress because it scares imaginary people that we
Speaker 2: made up to maintain the status quo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the political analysts and strategists are no fan of
Speaker 1: stack like sticking to or like going with a strong
Speaker 1: take on a policy that's popular because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't know how many people grown with
Speaker 2: a Tim Waltz VP pick right. People will start groaning
Speaker 2: about Josh Shapiro right just because you know, like his
Speaker 2: politics are all there for people to see and considering,
Speaker 2: like the how fractured Biden's support was over things like
Speaker 2: his support for Israel.
Speaker 1: Can she figure out a way because.
Speaker 2: Like again, like I said, the people, the vibes are
Speaker 2: good because people are still kind of like defining in
Speaker 2: their own mind what this campaign can be before it's
Speaker 2: actually articulating what those positions will be. So it's like
Speaker 2: it's definitely a very there's an opportunity to either do
Speaker 2: something that will really shore things up or cause more
Speaker 2: you know, finger pointing and disagreement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the content of the speech in Atlanta seemed to
Speaker 1: be playing from the playbook of like keep the focus
Speaker 1: on Trump and also like play defense on places there
Speaker 1: attacking me, like the border stuff. Like she specifically brought
Speaker 1: up the border thing, so I could see her going
Speaker 1: with Kelly because of that being a place where she
Speaker 1: feels like she needs to play defense. So the betting lines,
Speaker 1: by the way, like Shapiro and Kelly lay out in
Speaker 1: front plus one thirty seven for Shapiro, which means you
Speaker 1: bet one hundred dollars. If she picked Shapiro, you win
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty seven. Kelly, you win one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty two. Tim Wallt you win five hundred. So
Speaker 1: they're pretty they think that one's unlikely. Roy Cooper, you
Speaker 1: win fourteen hundred, those odds should go up. Now that
Speaker 1: he's dropped out of the race, he's taken his name
Speaker 1: out of contention. Andy Basheer is way back at eighteen hundred.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I feel like it.
Speaker 7: You know, the betters seem to the thing and they
Speaker 7: are way out.
Speaker 1: In front on Shapiro and Kelly.
Speaker 7: So yeahs what like in the world of politics, what are.
Speaker 1: The VP success stories? Like, I feel like I only
Speaker 1: have VP like horror stories where it's Sarah Palin, it's
Speaker 1: jd Vance. I guess the success stories would be like
Speaker 1: Pence not totally fucking Trump's first campaign up and Biden
Speaker 1: like giving making old white people feel okay about Obama.
Speaker 1: But it's never like flashy, right, It's always like.
Speaker 2: And if you look at the people who the last
Speaker 2: VP picks from, like the the elections, we remember, they
Speaker 2: were all coming from states that weren't competitive at all,
Speaker 2: like Dick Cheney's from Wyoming. Yeah, like Pence is from Indiana,
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is from California, So like, yeah, these aren't
Speaker 2: these aren't necessarily like because I think if it were,
Speaker 2: if it were that easy then everyone would be deploying
Speaker 2: this strategy to be like, what's the swing state we
Speaker 2: need to win, that's the VP pick. It's just like,
Speaker 2: while sometimes there are there are a few people who
Speaker 2: make the arguments that it does matter, but like people
Speaker 2: who've done deeper analysis on it, like now, the premise,
Speaker 2: the premise that these sort.
Speaker 1: Of research papers are based off over flawed, and yeah
Speaker 1: they can you remember Tim Kane, Yes, holy shit, what
Speaker 1: a strange energy that guy was working with exactly not
Speaker 1: what Hillary Clinton needed, but that felt like one where
Speaker 1: they were like we got a hold like shore up
Speaker 1: a battleground state, Virginia is important. And he was bilingual.
Speaker 1: There was that. I think that was a oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know that. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: people like he speaks Spanish.
Speaker 6: Was that Hillary's VP pick?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hilary yeah, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't remember this dude at all.
Speaker 1: He was very not memorable and just had this really
Speaker 1: weird energy where he would like, you know, say a
Speaker 1: thing and then like translate it into Spanish with but
Speaker 1: it was just like his facial facial energy. It was
Speaker 1: all like cheerleader, you know.
Speaker 7: It was like you know when a cheerleader has like
Speaker 7: a plastered smile where it's.
Speaker 1: Like I'm giving you enthusiasm all the time.
Speaker 2: Yes, but yeah, the thing was even then, I remember
Speaker 2: there were like poles that they're like even like Spanish
Speaker 2: speaking voters like that's okay, not like impressed, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Yeah, no, grass, yeah, because he was
Speaker 2: doing like speeches too, like like in Spanish, and we're like, yo,
Speaker 2: this ship is pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: But it just it wasn't enough. So again, it stands
Speaker 1: to reason that it can maybe do more potentially to
Speaker 1: hinder than to help. But I don't know. We have
Speaker 1: to see how JD. Evans plays out. That'll be an
Speaker 1: interesting test case.
Speaker 2: Because this is someone whose favorability keeps fucking going down
Speaker 2: sky right.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, I guess I'm out of the loop
Speaker 1: on those I thought that couch thing was gonna really
Speaker 1: should we talk about JD? Because he continues to so
Speaker 1: it's he's become a major story for the Trump campaign.
Speaker 1: The fact that the narrative is now this has backfired.
Speaker 1: He is he was the wrong choice when you Google
Speaker 1: I googled has VP ever, and the Google auto complete
Speaker 1: has been replaced because a lot of people are thinking
Speaker 1: that on the Republican side, like how do we get
Speaker 1: out of this? So he had to come out and
Speaker 1: just calm everyone down and be like, look, we're good here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I know it looks weird because they made
Speaker 1: up that line and every almost like that lie makes
Speaker 1: me see you in a new way. But I am
Speaker 1: secretly a riz god and get ready to be blown
Speaker 1: away and melt in my hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's his He he gave a stump speech
Speaker 2: in Nevada, and it started off like fucking terribly, like
Speaker 2: just from the beginning of the speech. Let me just
Speaker 2: play it the fucking just the beginning of JD. Van's
Speaker 2: giving a speech, just so you understand where this guy,
Speaker 2: where he's coming from.
Speaker 1: They're excited. Now I have seen the consequences. Mike just
Speaker 1: went out.
Speaker 7: Now he's tapping the mic, still talking, he's talking, he's
Speaker 7: hand now doing a fake.
Speaker 2: Something about this Mike again, all dead air right now,
Speaker 2: and then it comes back up there it is.
Speaker 1: So that's how the speech fucking started, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Then he's got real like Ronda Santa's energy,
Speaker 1: where like when he's smiling, you're like he's gonna kill someone. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: he is planning someone's demise. So again, his speaking ability
Speaker 1: is second to many. But listen, this is this is
Speaker 1: part of this is just again because he is a
Speaker 1: fantastic orator. This is this is him getting a little
Speaker 1: momentum in his speech. Do we want to defund the police?
Speaker 1: Do you wanted to do you want to ban fracking?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 9: Do we want a dangerous level liberal like Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1: What he's like doing a Kyle Mooney bit? Do I
Speaker 1: do a little bit more? Yeah, he's he's not. Again,
Speaker 1: he's not the smoothest. He's supposed to be the coherent
Speaker 1: anchor to Donald Trump's electric motor boat. That he has
Speaker 1: to is between sharker electrocution.
Speaker 8: You at a little baby belt Jesus wait, liberal, please,
Speaker 8: can I start over?
Speaker 1: Guys? My time out? Time out? You can't do a
Speaker 1: timeout during a live speech. Then listen to this one.
Speaker 2: This is where he's just trying to talk about, like
Speaker 2: you can thank Kamala Harrison Joe Biden for your high
Speaker 2: gas prices.
Speaker 1: This is how he lands the plane on this one.
Speaker 1: So when you fill up your pump, huh, when you fill.
Speaker 9: Up your tank at the gas station, maybe you should
Speaker 9: send a bill to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: When you fill up your pump.
Speaker 7: He's just he's the everyman, you know, when you fill
Speaker 7: up your pump on your.
Speaker 2: Car tank, gas fill up tank at gas station.
Speaker 1: I would give Kamala bill. I don't know, time out
Speaker 1: defeated by the end of the sentence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's he's not again, the Grand Wizard of
Speaker 2: the KKK is not quite giving us the charisma that
Speaker 2: is needed to power this white supremacist campaign.
Speaker 1: Unfortune for them.
Speaker 2: But then the part that really got a lot of
Speaker 2: attention was again this guy.
Speaker 1: Everyone says you bang couches, and he says this, he's.
Speaker 2: Talking about people like people want, people want my wife
Speaker 2: to come up and say something.
Speaker 7: This is him talking about two big like stories that
Speaker 7: have been like circulating the mainstream media that have crossed
Speaker 7: over from memes to like the mainstream meter or like
Speaker 7: that he had that interview where he talked about his
Speaker 7: wife and seemed apologetic that she was a person of color. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and to like he was like, white supremacists don't like it,
Speaker 7: but I love it.
Speaker 1: I love her.
Speaker 7: And then the other one is the made up story
Speaker 7: that he fucks a couch but he just like has
Speaker 7: sluch couch fucking energy that it won't go away. And
Speaker 7: here's how he tries to kill two birds with one
Speaker 7: stone or.
Speaker 1: Or sideshow bob breakfest. Yes, he just another rake to
Speaker 1: the face. Let's see.
Speaker 9: Now I would call her up here to come and
Speaker 9: speak that. Then I think I'd have to sleep on
Speaker 9: the couch tonight.
Speaker 1: So alone, there's like groans in the audience.
Speaker 2: I know they're like, what, like, so you so you
Speaker 2: want to Cody Johnson retweeted that he's like, in fact,
Speaker 2: why don't I ever come up here? That actually sounds
Speaker 2: all right to me. Yeah, yeah, another night on the couch.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: Again, he's not leaning into it like someone who has
Speaker 2: like a good command of irony and humor.
Speaker 1: Its just like it also comes off as like, dude,
Speaker 1: you did you know? Did you mean to do that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was he trying to be like maybe I can be
Speaker 1: self deprecating about this, But he did it in a
Speaker 1: way that like he bailed on the bit like immediately, And.
Speaker 6: So does it strike me as someone who has any
Speaker 6: like the capacity to have a sense of humor about
Speaker 6: himself or to like acknowledge So I'm like I think
Speaker 6: he just was like, Oh, my wife's always his wife
Speaker 6: is always curious with me, right, so I'm used to
Speaker 6: sleeping on the couch And he didn't even make the connection,
Speaker 6: which how embarrassing is that? That's my theory though.
Speaker 2: He and then on Wednesday he went to a diner.
Speaker 2: I didn't put this one in the dock, but he
Speaker 2: went to a diner and like with his wife and
Speaker 2: two kids, and he didn't even like introduce her to anyone,
Speaker 2: Like he just was like talking and like people were
Speaker 2: just like, oh, hi, nice to meet you the wife.
Speaker 2: Like in this he's like feigning family man stuff at
Speaker 2: this diner counter while his kids are drinking chocolate milk.
Speaker 2: And it's like, again very awkward. There's like video of
Speaker 2: like campaign aids like setting up the chocolate milk for
Speaker 2: like this photo op of like kids just enjoying chocolate milk.
Speaker 2: And then this is how this entire sequence interaction went
Speaker 2: at a diner.
Speaker 9: Oh right, here she's just sucked down a full day
Speaker 9: serving a chocolate milk.
Speaker 1: Here is this our bill here? Okay Roles right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm paying for these with money. I got it actually,
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, now here's what we're gonna do. Thank you.
Speaker 1: All those are big sentindoles. Those are big He's so
Speaker 1: worried about he can't not start talking about nutrition the
Speaker 1: second he's around food, like she's just sucked.
Speaker 7: Down in days. We're serving worth of chocolate milk.
Speaker 1: Cool that you're gonna have a your your kids are
Speaker 1: gonna have a very normal relationship to food when you're
Speaker 1: like and she has taken her protocol of chocolate milk
Speaker 1: for the day.
Speaker 2: This is actually what he says after he references the
Speaker 2: chocolate milk again outside of the diner.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing great, man, I'm having a good time.
Speaker 1: My family's here. They're hopped up on chocolate milk. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a wild plane ride home. But look,
Speaker 1: we're we're having a great time and I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a wild played rendhod because they're gonna
Speaker 6: ship the fun.
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch long legs, dude, They're gonna ship they're
Speaker 1: fucking little pants, dude, of those chocolate milks. He is
Speaker 1: so rotten, like he is so disanta's brained, like he
Speaker 1: is exactly run to say it, like all of his
Speaker 1: energy is like rond DeSantis. His relationship to food and
Speaker 1: sugar is run to say, like they they had him
Speaker 1: do we we covered this on a previous episode, but
Speaker 1: they had him do like a direct to camera like
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of the campaign. This is what's fuel
Speaker 1: in the campaign. It's junk food. I can't eat it
Speaker 1: or I'd explode, blow up like a tip. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: it's just like God, what damn man? Like why you
Speaker 1: like couldn't leave that out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but these are also buddy if for some guy
Speaker 2: who's like again, he really rich. He showed his ass
Speaker 2: and he said, I'm drinking diet mountain dew, like, bro,
Speaker 2: just yeah, just elect yourself, let yourself rot on the
Speaker 2: inside like the rest of us, and drink the full
Speaker 2: blooded mountain dew and then coming after staple American foods
Speaker 2: like Lays and Snickers and be like, ah.
Speaker 1: I can't eat that garbage. That's for you.
Speaker 2: I'm an everyman anyway, So we're going to Peter Luger's
Speaker 2: after Anyway, my kids are in big trouble for all
Speaker 2: that chocolate milk they just conssumed.
Speaker 1: But soilent for them. I'm a man of the people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a tough one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think also alongside just all of this,
Speaker 2: I do want to just touch on Jesse Waters too,
Speaker 2: because the weird stuff is still continuing to like rock
Speaker 2: their brains, like they don't know how to squirm out
Speaker 2: of this, and now Jesse Waters is just now coming
Speaker 2: up with like weird pseudoscience takes on why like you
Speaker 2: shouldn't vote for a woman and like why this whole
Speaker 2: thing's a sham or whatever this is. Jesse Waters on
Speaker 2: what this means to vote for a woman.
Speaker 10: Now, I don't see why any man would vote Democrat.
Speaker 10: It's not the party of virtue, security, it's not the
Speaker 10: party of strength. It's definitely not the party of family.
Speaker 10: And to be a man and then vote for a
Speaker 10: woman just because she's a woman is either childish, that
Speaker 10: person has mommy issues or they're just trying to be
Speaker 10: accepted by other women. And I heard the scientists say
Speaker 10: the other day that when a man votes for women,
Speaker 10: he actually transitions into a woman.
Speaker 7: Oh is that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the science's science.
Speaker 7: That's so is that one of the shows where he's
Speaker 7: with like Democrats or something, Yeah, token Democrats who are yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, and she's pretty.
Speaker 2: Good on the five is she Yeah, she actually typically
Speaker 2: like fires right back in a pretty Jessica Tarlov.
Speaker 1: Is the woman who goes on there to represent like liberals.
Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, he managed to full transphobia into that
Speaker 2: fucking weird take of like shattered Masculinity's so fucking again weird.
Speaker 1: That's like weird. It's such a fifteen, like a fourteen
Speaker 1: year old thing to say.
Speaker 2: Like dude, don't pick the don't pick the girl character
Speaker 2: or you're the girl in the video game, Like what
Speaker 2: And that means what what are we saying?
Speaker 6: None of what he said made And also like no
Speaker 6: one's voting for her just because she's like men certainly
Speaker 6: aren't doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where's that? Yeah? Where is that group?
Speaker 2: I will only vote for a woman, that's my thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I do that to impress other women, that's why.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because men are obsessed with getting the social approval
Speaker 6: of women famously.
Speaker 2: Right right right, So I live in such a utopia
Speaker 2: of of equality.
Speaker 1: It is. It is a narrative that I'm seeing a
Speaker 1: lot of places, like there's been this headline where it's
Speaker 1: like the gap, the gender gap, and how it defines
Speaker 1: this election more than any election ever, so I see
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do with the data to be
Speaker 1: like and that means you're not a man if you
Speaker 1: vote for Democrat.
Speaker 2: Well, because with younger people it's definitely going that way,
Speaker 2: Like younger men are like definitely ingesting more more and
Speaker 2: more like sexist, misogynistic type content that is sort of
Speaker 2: being more like into this like you know, trad wife ship,
Speaker 2: but also like but with women and like women identifying voters,
Speaker 2: they they're moving to the left. So there is this
Speaker 2: like gender divide with younger people for sure, but to
Speaker 2: the point where like you can just say, like, yo, dude,
Speaker 2: your peep is gonna fucking go poof if you fucking
Speaker 2: vote for Kamala.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know how you know.
Speaker 6: Affect scientists say?
Speaker 1: Is that which scientists doctor pepper them? Okay, okay, the
Speaker 1: scientists on YouTube are saying doctor Jordan Peterson, I ever
Speaker 1: heard of him? All right, let's take one more break
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back and we're back. And yeah.
Speaker 1: So Netflix has this new show to remake of a
Speaker 1: Danish show Downish called The Last Word, where you interview
Speaker 1: people when they're about to die and then once they
Speaker 1: are dead, you release the episode seems to be the idea,
Speaker 1: and now Netflix is going to do it to American
Speaker 1: nearly dead celebrities.
Speaker 2: I guess I I only know Okay, okay, I know
Speaker 2: Stephen Sondheim is.
Speaker 1: I know who Angela Lansbury is? Who's the screenshot of
Speaker 1: this already exists on the New York Times. The New
Speaker 1: York Times has a like segment called The Last Word
Speaker 1: where they interview like they do this already.
Speaker 2: So oh so the screencap I'm saying it's from the
Speaker 2: New York Times already doing this item already existing.
Speaker 1: Netflix is like, We're gonna go even bigger. The competition
Speaker 1: for nearly dead people interviews is going to be out
Speaker 1: of control. I see.
Speaker 2: I mean there's I get the interest in something like
Speaker 2: that because someone I remember having like very interesting conversations
Speaker 2: with like my older fan, like my older relatives as
Speaker 2: they were sort of on the brink of passing away
Speaker 2: and like the sort of clarity that sometimes people have.
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, sure, I guess I need to see
Speaker 2: it to know, like, am I that.
Speaker 1: Interested in what Stephen Sondheim has to say? Or is
Speaker 1: he going to say something that's like truly.
Speaker 6: Are they going to say, do they say, like, here's
Speaker 6: what I regret not doing or doing so that people
Speaker 6: can be like, oh my god, right, I have to
Speaker 6: follow my dreams or.
Speaker 2: Like because like they're just you know, sort of at
Speaker 2: the end of their lives, like they just start saying
Speaker 2: shit they really believe the whole time, or we got
Speaker 2: to put all that on the cut and room floor.
Speaker 2: I've never even heard that slur before.
Speaker 1: Is that a word? Even? It's just like a really
Speaker 1: the the interviewer is like, so, spill bitch, what who
Speaker 1: did you really hate? Andrela Lansbury right right, what do
Speaker 1: you think Andrew Lloyd Weber Steven.
Speaker 6: That's good television? Actually that would be right right right?
Speaker 2: So on deaths door Step that's yeah, but not like these, Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: I could see. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think of who I'm really that
Speaker 2: interested in because it's also like, for I guess this
Speaker 2: also has no appeal to me generationally, like I when
Speaker 2: I'm in my sixties or seventies. Then if when it's
Speaker 2: like this, this is Jay Z on his deathbed or something.
Speaker 1: They like, what does Sean Carter have to say? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does seem like it's fairly. It's the elderly right there.
Speaker 1: I don't see a version of this where they're like
Speaker 1: getting people who are young and on death store right,
Speaker 1: But maybe, I mean that would be interesting if like
Speaker 1: we had the Chadwick Bozman like interview that rite or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: And I think, but for so many people, that's such
Speaker 2: a private thing, like you know, obviously you struggling with
Speaker 2: cancer privately and didn't tell people, so like, I think
Speaker 2: it probably makes more sense for people who are like, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm getting on in age, I don't mind doing this interview,
Speaker 2: and so I'm like, hey, we heard like you might
Speaker 2: be really sick, right, yeah, do you want to do
Speaker 2: an interview?
Speaker 1: Like I guess that the producing style. I'm curious producing
Speaker 1: like behind the scenes because they're you know, they're every
Speaker 1: news outlet has their oh bits that are on deck,
Speaker 1: you know, for very famous people who they think might
Speaker 1: die soon. But they they don't like reach out to
Speaker 1: the celebrity to be like, hey, could you fact check
Speaker 1: this oh bit for us real quick? Because we think
Speaker 1: you're about to die. So just reaching out to somebody
Speaker 1: and being like, hey, you're about to die, right and
Speaker 1: have them be like no feels like, I don't think
Speaker 1: someone how far along they are, come on, don't they don't? Honey?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why they need this cat producer who just
Speaker 6: can sends people are going to die and they just
Speaker 6: then they blame everything on the cat.
Speaker 2: Right, easy, exactly exactly, that's smart to Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I'm really curious to know like who the who the
Speaker 2: episodes are going to be on before I can truly
Speaker 2: be like, oh that might be interesting, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I've also, we live in a world controlled
Speaker 2: by people about to die.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I can't do they have the Biden
Speaker 1: interview recorded already? You know, like that that would be
Speaker 1: the intriguing thing, is like the making of this show
Speaker 1: or you see the listening, like these people are all alive?
Speaker 1: Wait right they have presumably they have a bunch of
Speaker 1: shows banked with people who are still alive that we
Speaker 1: might not realize or like out to die. So like
Speaker 1: that they just need to make a website with all
Speaker 1: the names like interested list, and then like have already
Speaker 1: interviewed you know, Jimmy Carter? Is have they done the
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter interview? Did they do the Henry Kissinger interview?
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter is still fucking alive hanging around. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: Caitlin Dorante, what a pleasure having you on the daily Zite.
Speaker 6: Guys, gosh, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you and hear you.
Speaker 6: You can hear me on the Bachtel Cast. It's available
Speaker 6: on all the freaking platforms and podcasts listening places that
Speaker 6: I co host with Jamie Loftus. And we are doing
Speaker 6: a We're like introducing a screening of the movie Chicken
Speaker 6: Run in Los Angeles, So if you live in the area,
Speaker 6: come to the Los Felis three Theater. It's American Cinema
Speaker 6: Tech has is like sponsoring a Friend of the Fest
Speaker 6: podcast festival where they're having podcasters introduce screenings of movies.
Speaker 6: So we're doing Chicken Run. It's on August twenty fifth
Speaker 6: at four pm. Tickets for that are on the Bechtel
Speaker 6: Cast link tree, so link tree slash Bechtel Cast. And
Speaker 6: uh yeah, I'm pretty excited about that.
Speaker 1: Is that one of you?
Speaker 6: It's one of my faves. It's yeah, it's have you
Speaker 6: seen it?
Speaker 1: I saw when it came out. I mean that was
Speaker 1: just by the same people who may the sheep and
Speaker 1: yes and yeah, yeah, I don't know if I've seen
Speaker 1: Chicken Run specifically, I've seen a lot of their work.
Speaker 6: Well, come to the screening on August twenty fifth, bring
Speaker 6: your kids. It's a family friendly.
Speaker 1: That's a Sunday too.
Speaker 6: It's a Sunday exactly four pm. Not a reasonable hour anyway,
Speaker 6: So there's that, And you can follow me personally on
Speaker 6: Instagram at Caitlin Durante. And then I have some screenwriting
Speaker 6: classes that I'm teaching coming up in September, so I
Speaker 6: have my intro class, so if you're like brand new
Speaker 6: and fresh to screenwriting, that's the one for you. I
Speaker 6: also teach workshopping classes, so if you already have a
Speaker 6: bit of a background in writing for the screen and
Speaker 6: you're working on something and you want to bring it
Speaker 6: in and workshop it and get notes from your fellow
Speaker 6: students and from myself, you can take that class. And
Speaker 6: all of that is on my website Caitlindurante dot com
Speaker 6: slash classes.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, amazing. And is there a work of media
Speaker 1: that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 6: I saw the movie DD a couple days ago, and
Speaker 6: I I'd recommend that it's a coming of age Story.
Speaker 6: It's technically a period piece because it's set in two
Speaker 6: thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh my god, right, how did they remember?
Speaker 6: How did they do it? But yeah, it's very much
Speaker 6: in the vein of like eighth grade. If you enjoyed
Speaker 6: that movie, so I'd recommend dd I liked it quite
Speaker 6: a bit.
Speaker 1: D d I amazing Miles. Where can people find you
Speaker 1: as their work media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, find me on Twitter and Instagram at
Speaker 2: Miles of Gray. If you like basketball, I just saw
Speaker 2: that Anthony Davis got.
Speaker 1: Injured during the Team USA game.
Speaker 2: He did by as we record this on Wednesday, I'm
Speaker 2: a Laker fan in disarray at the moment. But if
Speaker 2: you want to hear us talk about the NBA and
Speaker 2: basketball in general, you can also find that on Miles
Speaker 2: and checkot mat Boosti's And if you want to hear
Speaker 2: me talk about ninety Day Fiance, that show is called
Speaker 2: for twenty Day Fiance.
Speaker 1: I'm just dealing with just seeing that trending on the
Speaker 1: Internet and I'm like, that's not good. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the extentive is of a one piece of media
Speaker 1: you didn't enjoy.
Speaker 2: Let's see a couple of tweets I like. One is
Speaker 2: from at kunt Fried. Rice tweeted my body is not
Speaker 2: a temple, It's a World trade center and every day
Speaker 2: is nine to eleven and at a Shikhupar tweeted, Hey guys, I'm.
Speaker 1: Hearing it's weird to approve arms shipments to Israel. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I think that is weird too. I think
Speaker 1: we need to look into that as well. Amazing.
Speaker 7: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
Speaker 7: tweet I've been enjoying. Terran tweeted parentheses driving stones. Wow,
Speaker 7: this should not be legal. That was my.
Speaker 1: Experience of driving stones. Very scared.
Speaker 7: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
Speaker 7: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook
Speaker 7: hamdpage on a website where we link off to the
Speaker 7: episodes and our footnote no, which is where we link
Speaker 7: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 7: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 7: what is a song that you think.
Speaker 2: The people look I'm all about just having some nice
Speaker 2: vibrations because it's already August and I told fucking November
Speaker 2: to tickets.
Speaker 1: Sweet Time November.
Speaker 2: But this is a really dope track from this composer,
Speaker 2: Giuliano Sergini, who is like one of these like iconic
Speaker 2: sort of Italian composers who made a lot of move
Speaker 2: like like theme songs and scores for like Italian television.
Speaker 1: This track is.
Speaker 2: Called Lavoro cerebra l A v O r O c
Speaker 2: E r E b r A l E. And it's like,
Speaker 2: just got this, like you feel like it's you're the
Speaker 2: like it's the opening theme song for a movie about
Speaker 2: you and you're driving a convertible like in eighties Italy
Speaker 2: or something. It just feels like it's like feels good
Speaker 2: when you listen to it, You're like, I can't get
Speaker 2: stressed listen but having this playing right now, and so
Speaker 2: I extend this opportunity to you, the listener to check
Speaker 2: this track out by Giuliano Orgini Lavoro.
Speaker 7: All right, we will link off to that in the footnote.
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Speaker 1: That is gonna do it for us. This morning. We
Speaker 1: are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending,
Speaker 1: and we will talk to you all time.
Speaker 7: Bye bye bye