WEBVTT - Rick Wilson & Daniel Biss 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:12.160 today's best minds, and House Democrats have added twelve safe 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.720 for publican seats to their red to Blue list. We 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.000 have such a great show for you today. The Lincoln 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:22.120 Project's own Rick Wilson joins us to talk about how 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.880 Trump still controls elected officials despite the fact that he 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:32.120 cannot control Republican primaries. Then we'll talk to Democratic Congressman 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:37.400 Daniel Biss about being an anti apac jew. 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:38.760 But first the. 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:42.879 News soval the Senate passed a stopgap to avert the 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.040 shutdown of the government that would have happened before the election. 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.920 But Trump, I think he soiled as diaper because the 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:51.160 Save Act didn't get passed. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.200 The top line here is the Senate has gone back 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.560 on vacation because it's August, and why should they be 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.120 at work. They've gone, They're done, They're out. They will 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:06.480 not be back until September, and until then there will 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.000 be no Save Act, which means Donald Trump will not 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.120 get the Save Act passed. Here's what was never going 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.319 to happen. Donald Trump was going to pass the Save Act. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.440 Here's why it was a math problem, right, you needed 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.880 sixty votes to pass the Save Act. He couldn't get 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.000 sixty votes, so he would have had to have killed 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.119 the filibuster for an act that was By the way, 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.480 if you're going to kill the filibuster, which eventually someone 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.000 will kill the filibuster, you're not going to kill it 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.919 for a piece of legislation that's poorly written that's ultimately 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.399 probably not going to get enacted. I mean, the whole 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.000 situation is just a complete shit show for Trump anyway. 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.200 And by the way, had they even passed the Save Act, 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:47.000 there's a question of whether or not it was even legal, right, 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:51.520 I mean, it's basically federalizing elections. So it's taking state 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.520 elections and making the federal government charge of them, which 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.400 technically I mean, I know Republicans hate the Constitution, but 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.560 if they liked it, they would see that the technically 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.160 you can't do that. They're separated. And by the way, 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.040 they're separated for good reason, because they're safer when the 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.120 states run them and they're decentralized and they're less likely 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.800 to be interfered with. So here we are bipartisan vote 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:17.799 to push government funding past election day deadline. I love 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.240 that they can get a ninety to six vote, but 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.880 only when it's for punting. Another great part of this 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.840 number of people did not vote, including you'll remember Mitch McConnell, 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.080 though I do think at some point Mitch McConnell was 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.560 having his votes put in for him. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.040 Right by Roger Wicker. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:35.600 Yep. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.560 Certainly a sign that everything is going great, in case 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.400 you're wondering. Supposedly, though Mitch McConnell did check out of rehab. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.200 Maybe who knows, because there are no pictures and no 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.840 real reporting, So we just have to take Mitch McConnell 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.360 at his word, which why wouldn't you right? 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:51.880 Oh? 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:52.400 Of course? 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:53.000 What it on? 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.519 A zombie man? I mean, man, I'm sorry. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.360 Mitch McConnell at his word. I'm sure he's completely healthy 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:02.320 and totally fine. What's happening here? They confirmed Todd Blanche, 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:07.400 they failed a voter id measure, and now they will. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.200 Go and have a recess. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.799 Well, Republicans will try to keep the House and Democrats 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:13.920 will try to flip. 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:19.000 So let's talk about the Republicans trying to keep the House, 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.600 because we have learned that they're going to have a 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.840 little convention that's going to be a little film festival. Now, 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.200 I allow me to loog a prediction here. I think 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.320 we're going to see Ai trans tall Rico. I think 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.160 we're going to probably see some of the most islamicophobic 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:37.160 things about doctor Abduel said we've ever seen, and probably 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.720 a lot of other things. My imagination is not stupid 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:40.480 enough to conceive. 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:41.800 Here's what's happening. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.720 Dop decided that we have a midterm convention, which I 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.000 actually don't think is a terrible idea. If you had 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:52.880 a policy to sell people, that could be very helpful, 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.320 but you don't. Right, what's the policy the Republican What 0:03:56.440 --> 0:04:01.520 is the Republican policy? What is the Republican Party is leaning? 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.960 Do they want healthcare for all? Do they want do 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.160 they want to what do they want? 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:07.880 They want Trump? 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.120 Right? I mean Trump? The party is the party of Trump? 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.840 And do they support what Trump likes? And so they 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:18.400 support seizing the means of production by taking stakes in 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:23.760 public companies they largely via blackmail? I mean, what do 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.839 they support? So they support getting mad at people for 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.800 making jokes about Charlie Kirk that I don't know that 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.159 you can run on that stuff. I don't know that 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.839 somebody who can't afford to fill their car up with 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.920 gas is going to really care about culture war issues, 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.719 and that will be the big question. So this first 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:47.320 ever midterm convention in September will feature a lot of 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.159 clips of leftists saying crazy stuff. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.000 What will that look like? I don't know. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:58.640 You know, it might include some Hassan Piker because publicans 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:02.160 are very obsessed with On Piker because he seems very 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.599 scary to them. I think it will include a lot 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.960 of people mad about Charlie Kirk's death. I think it 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.200 will have It looks like it will have speeches from 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:17.320 the very charismatic Jada Vance, known for his charisma Ohio charisma. 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.679 I learned the term as The thing about. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.560 Jada Vance is like he makes when you realize that 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.440 Peter Tiel had to like spend millions of dollars more 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.719 to get him elected in a ruby red state of 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.360 Ohio and then you listen to him speak at all, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:33.440 sort of comes together. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.240 But does I makeup look so good? 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:40.880 Right? And Treasury Secretary Scott Besant, known for telling Americans 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.440 this week that the K shaped ecotomy is no longer 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.120 k shaped. That guy excited to hear what. He's a 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.440 real populist. Always love to hear him talk about populism. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.160 I think there'll be a lot of talking got Health 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.919 Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior. They're going to focus on 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.719 the Maha movement, you'll remember them, mom movement, supposedly Trump 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.039 and again, you know, a lot of reporting about Trump 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.320 himself ends up with the reporter with egg on their 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.800 face because he changes his mind sometimes. But supposedly there 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.919 are going to be more executive orders focused. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:14.880 On anti vacs. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:20.120 So that is unpopular with polls, but popular with Maha. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.320 And you know, remember the explosive diarrhea. This stuff is 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.600 still going. You know, I was talking to someone and 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.640 they were I said, oh, here it has moved to 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:34.840 fruit and they said, actually that's salmonella. So there seems 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.599 to be some also, again this is just anecdotal, so 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.800 don't take me as bible here, but like there definitely is. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.840 They are not doing the food surveillance they're supposed to 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.600 be doing, thank you doge. 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:52.200 So Donald Trump's other obsession that is not decorating, has 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:57.600 consistently been enacting Stephen Miller's racist policies. And they're going 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.920 to keep fighting to try to get rid of birthrights, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.239 thisenship in this country. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:06.640 Yeah, so the birthright citizenship stuff. It's so bizarre because 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.720 like this Supreme Court will do almost anything for Trump, 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.160 but in the words of meat Loaf, they won't do that. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.320 So Trump is going to try some other way to 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.320 do it. This is never going to work for him. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.200 It's the fourteenth Amendment. Trump does a lot of crazy stuff, 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.920 but I think this is for the really racist part 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:26.880 of the base, right, the part that is not just 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:33.440 satisfied by ice arresting people, putting them in camps like 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.360 Delaney where they die. This is a different section of 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.200 the base that will not ever be satisfied. And Trump 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.600 is trying to tell them that there's still more racism 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.760 to do. And I think he is doing this because 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.680 he doesn't want to lose them. And I think that 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.200 there's sort of you know, his coalition is fracturing. There 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.880 are maga people who are I mean, we see this 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.360 in the polls, right, and we see this in the voting. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.600 We see this in primary voting. We see this with 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.920 like Megan Kelly. Remember Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson are 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.840 more connected to the real world than Donald Trump. They 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.200 get comments on their YouTube, they see their YouTube numbers. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.520 They are more reactive than a Donald Trump because they 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.800 have to be right for their numbers. So those people 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.160 have criticized Trump, and why have they criticized Trump Because 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.400 they see that their viewers want them to right. They're 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.720 incentivized by their viewership in a way that mainstream media 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.200 has not been right. They're more sensitive, they can move quicker, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.280 and they are reactive in a way. So I do 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:40.160 think that that crew sees that MAGA is fracturing. And 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.280 remember we've talked about this before, but I think it's 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.760 worth just remembering that MEGA is fracturing over what they're 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:51.439 fracturing over these seven wars right the places where Donald 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.040 Trump has brought them to war. And now you know 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.560 the results of that, which are higher gas prices, higher, 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:01.040 food prices higher. And again a lot of these people 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:05.440 are in rural areas, so that means higher farming stuff. 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:09.320 You know, higher prices of fertilizer are more expensive that 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:09.880 kind of stuff. 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.720 So this is pretty interesting. I would have bet that 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.840 Max Miller would have dropped up before this deadline since 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.000 he's pulling extremely bad. So this looks like another pickup 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.079 for the Democrats because Max Miller missed the deadline to 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:25.400 drop out and get off the ballot. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.960 Yeah, you know, my favorite part of the Maximiller and 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.480 again favorite is this is not my favorite part. But 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:35.040 the thing that I think is worth worth sort of 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.760 highlighting when we talk about Max Miller is and when 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.599 Donald Trump called him, at least according to the reporting, 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.920 he said that the polls look bad. Like not, you know, 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.120 there are allegations you did unspeakable things to your two 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:48.760 year old daughter. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.320 Not that, but instead the polls look bad. 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.240 I do want to just have a minute here to 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:58.320 talk about domestic violence and the allegations of it. Stephanie Grisham, 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.080 the Press secretary of Milania and Trump one point zero, 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:07.800 she had accused Max Miller of very similar things, and 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.120 you know, she was not believed, and so here we are. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:16.080 So I just think that it is worth realizing that, like, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.200 if you believe one woman, you might be able to 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:24.319 save another woman from something terrible or allegations of something terrible. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.680 So it looks like it's a real pickup opportunity for Democrats. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.000 He is not getting out of the race, and it's 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.520 too late anyway, and he's probably going to do more 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.560 crazy interviews. I mean, Miller is really good example of 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:41.960 why you don't want to support candidates who do terrible things. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.920 And like, again this is not quite the same, but like, 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.160 once you get behind a candidate who is like this, 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.960 like mentally ill, and I mean, I don't know if 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.000 he's mentally ill, but he certainly behaves in a way 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:59.560 that's erratic and unpleasant and disturbing, you are in bed 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:04.240 with them. Ever, Miller previously sued ex girlfriend Stephanie Grisham 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.880 after she accused him of abuse also and then they 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.079 had a settlement. She sued him last month for allegedly 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:15.319 violating the terms of that settlement's non disparagement terms. Another 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.280 thing that I want to point out with this story 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.160 is that yeah, he's still an active candidate, so he 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.280 has not dropped out. And it's just a terrible story 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:29.120 all around. This just makes Ohio Republicans look terrible. And 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:33.000 I think, like when Max Miller tweeted these pictures of 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.160 this text about the blue bunny, his daughter's blue bunny, 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.640 his daughter left the blue bunny and couldn't sleep without 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.920 her bunny. This is a two year old child, so 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.680 it was like highly traumatized by this experience, by the divorce, 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.160 by the you know, it's just a. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:48.880 Horrible experience all around. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.320 And he tweeted out these pictures of the pickup that 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.880 were supposed to show that he had not held the 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.560 blue Bunny as hostage, but in fact showed that he 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.199 had held the blue Bunny as hostage because he he 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.240 didn't like the person who was going to pick up 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:06.160 the bunny. And those whole story is insane, and it's 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.560 one of those stories where the more the person talks, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:17.600 the more it sounds worse for them. Rick Wilson is 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.200 the founder of the Lincoln Project and the host of 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.959 the Lincoln Project podcast Welcome, Welcome, Rick Wilson. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.880 Hey, Molly john Fast, how are you on this fine day. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:26.600 I'm good. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.520 So let's talk about this. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.520 The only people who are scared of Donald Trump. 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.520 The only people who actually, let's even broaden it, the 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.839 only people who listened to Donald Trump anymore because voter 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.600 Shore don't. And I'm talking about Andy Oboles with his 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.360 Nope Trumpy nominated. 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.280 Tondy ogles that he had the kiss of life but 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:48.520 had the kiss of death instead. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:57.040 The golden Donald Trump endorsement in the Republican primary in Tennessee. 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.160 Didn't work, did not work. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.320 And this is a guy who has never spent a 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.800 day where he wasn't finding a way to suck Donald 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:12.040 Trump's ass in American politics, and who Trump loved him 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.240 and thought he was great and said all the he's 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:18.560 my he's my guide, this and that, and yet didn't work. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:23.040 Andy Ohs was going to rewrite the Constitution for Trump. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.240 That is correct. He wanted to rewrite the constitution. Uh, 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:30.240 he is a complete election denier. Trump's word is law 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.880 with Andy Ogles defends everything. All of the bullshit that 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:40.560 was definitional to a modern Republican candidate was it was 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.520 present there with Andy Ogles, every single bit of it. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.200 And and and the truth of the matter is it 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:52.480 didn't work, didn't help, didn't save him, didn't make it better. 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.640 It turned out that nothing was going to fix it 0:13:56.120 --> 0:14:00.840 because Trump's endorsement now what you used to be something, 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.240 and it's not nothing, but it's just not this. It 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:08.160 doesn't work like it worked before. And in fact, there 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.280 are some Republicans that I know for a fact, a 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.480 couple of Republican congressional candidates have been like, well, I 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.600 didn't ask for the endorsement, but he gave it to me, right, 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.640 Oh okay, yeah, that's gonna make people feel you're not 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.520 a complete Trump suck up after all. Pretty fascinating to me. 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:29.200 My favorite punchline to this story is Andy Ogles brought 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.440 down by clean energy. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.960 Of all things, this guy loses where that's one of 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.760 the issues that ends up unasking him in this whole race. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:40.800 It's kind of amazing. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:45.640 And a super pack from the Solar crew is the 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.560 big supports his primary challenger, which I think is like 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:50.480 a very look. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.680 I mean right, I think we Obviously. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.160 Big money in politics is a real problem, but here 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.080 it's a delicious problem. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:03.720 I will swallow this bit of citizens united bypass or 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.000 bycatch as long as it's taken down seriously. One of 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:13.120 the most egregious and tenditious and dumb supporters of MAGA 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.800 MAGA voters have been peeling away from Trump this year, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.000 and even Trump himself said, oh, they're mad at Republicans, 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:20.360 not at me. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:21.520 That was amazing. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.720 They've been peeling away from Trump, but they've also been 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:29.480 peeling away from Trump's candidates. Now they're not looking at 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.960 and Andy Ogles or whomever and saying Yeah, that's the 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.240 guy I need to send to the Senate or the House, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.640 or to the State House or the governor's office. And 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.200 that's the guy that's going to carry out the Trump agenda. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:45.280 So that agenda is unpopular. He is unpopular, and therefore 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.040 and they're getting the radiation off of it at long last. 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.480 So let's talk this through for a minute, because despite 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:55.800 all of this, there is a guy in the Republican 0:15:55.840 --> 0:16:00.720 Party in the Senate who who could have completely railed 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:05.680 the confirmation of Todd Blanche and refused to do it. 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.160 So what do you think happened here with Bill Cassaday. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.960 I think he is an honorless shill who has no 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:17.640 personal integrity, no sense of honor whatsoever, a guy who 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.600 for whatever reasons, even after all the abuse and the 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:26.000 hideous behavior, and we're using his seat and his colleagues. Yeah, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.760 he's losing his seat because of Trump. And yet he 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.960 doesn't want to be murdered by the mob. He doesn't 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.400 want to be attacked by Fox. He doesn't want to be, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.160 you know, turned into the latest punching bag for Trump's craziness. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:42.520 What he doesn't understand is that he now has a 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:46.440 permanent mark against him. This is a guy who forever 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.880 will be seen as the guy who voted to make 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.640 sure that the Jeffrey Epstein FILESI remain covered up. That 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:55.240 he voted for the guy who will pardon Jelaane Maxwell 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.280 set up that pardon for Trump to sign. He voted 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.320 for a guy who Trump describes himself Trump's personal lawyer. 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.280 He voted for a guy who will lie to the Senate, 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.080 who will abuse power, who will set up the Trump 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.120 slush fund. Again, watch watch what happens. By I'm putting 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:15.080 one thousand dollars down on this bet Trump will restore 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.879 the January sixth slush fund. Now that branch has been 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:20.720 voted on. They will. They will come back and put 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.679 it back in right before then, all these guys will go. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.840 We could have never seen this coming. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.040 anybody could see this coming. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.240 So you have a lot of experience in Republican world 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:31.600 and Republican politics. 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.639 And here's a question I have for you. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:39.479 Are you ready when someone like Bill Cassidy does something 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.919 like this, what is the calculus for later? 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.359 Like because clearly he's doing. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.840 This, like when we saw Joe Manchin do this, or 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.800 Kristen Cinema like with an eye towards his future employment. 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:58.040 So so what is he trying to help himself with here? 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:03.399 I would argue that somebody has called him and said, hey, listen, buddy, 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.680 you've got to place it at any number of any 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.400 number of lobbying firms, Ballard Partners, Barbara Griffith, Rogers, whoever. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.560 And if you if you just vote on this thing, 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:15.720 you're going to get a million and a half dollars 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.119 a year for the next ten years. You don't have 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:18.760 to do a goddamn thing, show up to one meeting 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:23.679 a year. It is sometimes that transparent and that simple. 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.480 They they may have had, you know, they may have 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.399 had a long heartfelt conversation with about that, and that 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.359 may have changed his deep sense of personal integrity because 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.520 Washington runs on money, right, and these people are have 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:42.199 control over tremendous, tremendous sums of money. 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.639 Because that's what it certainly seemed like was happening with 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.160 Cinema and Mansion when they voted. 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.720 Against all of that Biden administration legislation. 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.040 And those two are those two Cinema and Mansion were 0:18:56.119 --> 0:19:00.159 much more transparently corrupt, right, They were very much, much 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.880 more cash and carry. I mean, her whole thing as 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.600 the lead Democrat fighting for the hedge fund you know, 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:10.520 business sector America's mom and pop hedge funds industry. Her 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:14.520 whole time in the body was striking, and Mansion of 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.800 course was always cash and carry. Yeah, but I think 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.639 what you're seeing here in a lot of ways is 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.400 Cassidy looked less corrupt on paper, but something is either 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.560 so broken in his brain, or he's so afraid of 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.320 being killed by crazy people, or he just took a bribe. 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.400 And I mean Oukham's razor is the bribe. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.480 Yeah. I mean one of my I don't want to 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.720 say favorite because it was horrible and depressing, but one 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.520 of the moments that will stick with me forever was 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:51.480 seeing Kristen Cinema immediately doing lobbying for data centers. 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.560 Least surprising thing in a way, but you're also like, 0:19:55.160 --> 0:20:00.440 come on, really, that that that that obvious? Is that 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.639 is it that freaking obvious? And look, Silicon Valley has 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.359 made a really compelling decision in the last couple of 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.000 years or discovery in the last couple of years. They 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.520 figured out that a lot of money in Washington and 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.280 a lot of money for a former senator, former congressman 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:17.520 is a couple of million bucks. 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:18.920 Yes, it's not. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.080 I have a couple of million bucks in their couch cushions. 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.960 They're they're they're spending a couple of million bucks every 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:27.440 few days and starbucks on on their political and their 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:31.760 persuasion and lobbying operations. Buying an next member of the Senator, 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:33.680 Buying an next member of the House is cheap at 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:35.679 you know, it's it's bargain basement stuff. 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:39.760 Yeah, so again with Cassidy, With Senator Cassidy, it could 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.120 be because he's a coward. 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.320 It could be because he accepted a bribe. 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.040 We won't know for another couple of months, but we 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:49.240 will eventually know. 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:51.600 But what it does strike me is that. 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:55.480 Oh yeah, voters are are not coming along, not going 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.680 along to get along with Donald Trump. And I would 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.200 love to sort of pull back from this and keep 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.160 going with it because I think voters are much angrier 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:04.760 than we in. 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:10.960 The elite were in elite world. Can really quantify discuss. 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:14.280 They are so angry, Molly, it is beyond the level 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:18.040 of understanding of these members of Congress and these members 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:22.000 in the Senate, their consultants understand the level of anger 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:26.160 out there. Yeah, and in a world where, well, let's 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:29.320 put this way, if we didn't have the jerrymandering now 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:35.080 that we had back if in twenty ten when Republicans 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.080 blew out the House representatives, there's a lot of anger 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:38.560 in the country. 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.280 Okay, that's your top twenty eighteen. 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.000 There's a lot of anger in the country, right, But 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.520 I'm also talking about twenty eighteen, when Trump had really 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:48.639 screwed up already on the economy, people were angry. If 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.160 the jerrymandering wasn't as crazy as it is right now, 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.360 the Democrats will win sixty five seats as it is, 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.479 They're going to be in the high twenties somewhere as 0:21:56.560 --> 0:22:00.520 of today, all caveats apply, blah blah blah. But the 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.439