1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode one with Tricia Yearwood. What 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: a treat, Thank you very much. You brought me some 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: Jack Daniels Sinatra select Now do you have that the 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra record? And so we'll talk about that in 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: a second. But it's orange. It's it's orange on the 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: packaging because that was Sinatra's favorite color. And and you're 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: pretty cool. I guess if Jack Daniels gives an entire 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: collection of alcohol for you, I mean, I think it's 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Anyway. I was gonna stretch scratch out his 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: name of mine, but I decided to just leave it 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: for you that way. I think you're pretty cool if 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Tricia Wood does a record of all your songs, more 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: so than if Jack Daniels doesn't waiting to be I'm 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: waiting to do let's be Bobby, but I'm don't want 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: to do that one. That's like a FCC fine, that 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: could be my next thing. That's the whole thing we were. 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: So you handed the alcohol and I said, hey, why 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: don't I just drink this? Um the first time I 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: ever drinking, And I'll just get hammered during the podcast, 20 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: be so embarrassed to be that person. For you, I 21 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: don't want to be that person, I think, and a 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: lot of my friends want to be that person. They 23 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: want me to get drunk with them because then they 24 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: have like my my alcohol flower right exactly. Yeah, I mean, 25 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I love you, but I don't want your 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: alcohol flower. It's not my thing. I've never even heard 27 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: it called that. I haven't totally creepy. I was out 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: with a girl, Um, speaking of alcohol flower. Well, this 29 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: is a whole story about me drinking, because when I drink, 30 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: people act weird around me. I don't drink, but people 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: are drinking. I'll oh, I shouldn't drink around you. So 32 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: I don't tell anybody that that I don't drink. So 33 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I I fake drink. So I asked the bartender for 34 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: something virginy, and you know, put a little. So I 35 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: was with a girl and we went out and Ray 36 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: and Bay who um, we're having dinner with them. And 37 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom and Ray tells the girl 38 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: that I took out, Oh, you know, he doesn't drink, right, 39 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: And then she starts she said, I didn't know he 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: told her that, And she's been active totally weird around me. 41 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: And that's what it is. It was something else. Yeah, 42 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: I was like, she must know about my rash. You 43 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: must have which is another reason this kind of be 44 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: what don't you deserve a metal Because it's really hard 45 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: I find to be the sober person around a bunch 46 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: of drunk people because no one who's really drunk understands 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: how drunk they are. Right, So you're if you're the 48 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: sober person, if you're drunk with them, then you don't 49 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: have to worry about not having patience with anybody because 50 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: you're drunk too. But if you're sober and everyone else 51 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: is drunk. But I don't know the difference, right, Well, 52 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: you just aren't hanging around the right drunks. Maybe, So, 53 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know the difference in me, like 54 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: I know the difference in the right. I've never been 55 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: drunk with the drunks. I only know being with the 56 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: stupid people. Like I know, a Friday night, if I 57 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: go out, I'm doing with a bunch of stupid people. 58 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: That's just par for that course, that's what it's going 59 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: to be. So I appreciate that someone in this house 60 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: will drink it. Well that's what I thought. You could 61 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: serve it. You could serve it to some one of 62 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: your guests. Yeah, or someone will steal it. That's what happens. 63 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: That might happen. I'll go into my bedroom and I'll 64 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: come back and Eddie stolen or somebody from the show 65 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: selling all the alcohol. I get really nice alcost and 66 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: to me sometimes because you keep alcohol in your bedroom. 67 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, is this something I'm going to my bedroom, 68 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: like to change clothes or something. I'd come out all right, Okay, 69 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: I feel better now. I feel better now. I was concerned. Yeah, 70 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: what have you been up to all day? I've been 71 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: doing I've been talking about this record. Uh yeah, just 72 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: kind of doing my thing. We're getting ready to go 73 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: to St. Louis to do a tailgate, so I've been 74 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: talking about that. And um, what is then interview day 75 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: for you? Like a press day? What does that consist of? 76 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: You wake up? What time today I woke up at? 77 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: So some days it depends on what you're doing. You know, 78 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: if you're doing one of those big early morning shows 79 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: where you're crackte early morning show. See, I got into 80 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: the music business to not have to get up early, 81 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: but then you end up getting up early for stuff. 82 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: You get up early three o'clock. Yeah, that's not okay. 83 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: That's not okay to me, I would have to quit 84 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: my job. What I used think that because I'm not 85 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: a morning person. I just I'm not. It takes me 86 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: three hours to get to where I'm okay. But you 87 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: it's just a balance like do I love what I do? Yeah? 88 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: But do I hate waking up to do it? Yeah? 89 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: And then as it starts like now we've kind of 90 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: I've kind of built something cool. Yeah, So it's like, 91 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, if my worst problem is not getting sleep, 92 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: I got that's true. And once you're up, it's okay. 93 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: It's the getting up for me. But getting up in 94 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: the dark, I mean, that's you. Really, you really are 95 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: a night person because you get up in the middle 96 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: of the night. That's I'm a night person anyway, I'm too, 97 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, and I am that person. If I 98 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: have to get it really early, I'm not the person 99 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: that goes to bed early. I can't do it. I'm 100 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: just a night person. So I'm just not going to 101 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: get sleep if I got to get up early. If 102 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: you're playing a show and you finish at eleven thirty, 103 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: what time? What time is into the set? Usually the 104 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: whole thing usually midnight something like that. What time do 105 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: you finally get down? Probably two wish. Yeah, that's my 106 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: perfect schedule. If I could go to bed, wake up 107 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: at one pm, like that would be so good, Like 108 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: that's my my natural life. I was reading a story 109 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: about that where a lot of jobs, not a lot 110 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: of just but a lot of science is saying jobs 111 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: they're like programming people wrong, that everybody's body isn't built 112 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: for nine to five, That a lot of people's bodies 113 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: are built for noon to eight p m. And at 114 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: the productivity scale, whenever you find what people do best, 115 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: they actually work better at the times of their bodies. 116 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: Makes so much it makes so much sense, so much sense. 117 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I was a I had a nine to 118 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: five job when I first moved to town, and I 119 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: was a receptionist at the record label, and I had 120 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: to be at work at nine. And I worked at 121 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: a label where there was a guy at the desk, 122 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: so if I got there at nine oh one, he'd 123 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: had to sit there an extra hour, so he was 124 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: really ticked at me if I was ever late. So 125 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: I was always on time because I didn't want h 126 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: to be mad at me. And you couldn't leave your desk, 127 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: to even use the restroom without somebody sitting in your chair, 128 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: because your dance on the phone, you're you're the gateway, 129 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, the whole place. And it was really depressing 130 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: for me. Not because first of all, I'm watching people 131 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: coming every day and do what I wanted to be doing, 132 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: so that was hard, but secondly, just that structure of 133 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: this is when you clock in, this is when you 134 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: clock out. I think people some people are made for it, 135 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: and I think some people aren't. And I don't think 136 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: I am. I like people because oh it must be 137 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: so crazy. You just normal ever know what your schedule 138 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: is gonna be. I'm like, it's kind of different every day. 139 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: But I kind of love that for me, So it's 140 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: consistently different, like there's a consistency to to it always 141 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: being different exactly exactly, and I like that. I think 142 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: I thrive on that. I don't think I would do well. 143 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: I know I don't do well. Did not do well 144 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: in the nine to five. Marcus Humming is a friend, 145 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: a songwriter in town, and he said that he would 146 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 1: go in you mentioned your your job at Mary Tyler 147 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: Moore and he would see you working behind the desk 148 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: early on. Yes, And actually Marcus gave me work, um 149 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: he I did some demos for him, um back in 150 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: the day. Back in during that time period, I got 151 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: to know, I knew a couple of songwriters, and I 152 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: started doing demos after work. Um. So I'd work nine 153 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: to six, and then I would do demos until you know, 154 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: nine o'clock, and then I would go home and go 155 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: to bed and get back up the next day, and 156 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: and then for and then for a while, I got 157 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: a job playing at a bowling alley in Hendersonville, north 158 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: of town. So I would go leave my job and 159 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: I would play from seven to two, and then I 160 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: would get up and go to work the next day. 161 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: So you work a full normal day at five pm, 162 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: then you go to the bowling alley and play for 163 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: five hours? Yeah, what does that mean? What do you 164 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: do at a bowling on? When you play? Do you 165 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: have like a you play sets? So as you play 166 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: at three like three sets? You in a band. I 167 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: was in a band, So I did all the girls songs, 168 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, and you did that for five hours? Yeah? 169 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: For yeah? And was it enough? Would you do to 170 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: get to like pay rent? Are you doing it to 171 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: get in the music scene a bit. I just wanted 172 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: to sing. Yeah, I mean, and I I honestly made 173 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: I think I'd make about two hundred bucks in a weekend, 174 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: which was what I made in a paycheck, you know, 175 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: So it was and it was I was having more 176 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: fun doing that. So eventually quit the job to do that. 177 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: But also the demo work was I couldn't get full 178 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: time demo work having a full time job, so I 179 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: could only sing after work. So it was kind of 180 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: that moment of like, I'm not really making enough money 181 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: to to quit the job, but if I don't quit 182 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: the job, I'm not gonna be able to do the 183 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: other thing. And that was a little transition. But then 184 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: I then I did demo work and it was great 185 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: for me because I learned. I learned so many things 186 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: I didn't even know I was learning, you know. I 187 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: learned what a good song was for me. I learned 188 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: what a bad song was for me. I learned how 189 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: to make a song on my own because I'm kind 190 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: of an imitator and I had sung with the radio 191 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: in my whole life. So then you're hearing songs you've 192 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: never heard before and you have to you have to 193 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: make them yours, and it was. It was a great 194 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: training ground for me in a way that I didn't 195 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: even realize when you're a demo singer. And for example, UM, 196 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, Let's say you and I 197 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: write a song and we're like this really good song. 198 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: We'll get someone to sing the demo so it gets 199 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: pitched to artists. Um, are you hearing like the work 200 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: tape there recording like ascette player and then learning it 201 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: real quick? Are you hearing that? And and looking at 202 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: the lyrics sheet and then walking in and seeing it 203 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: pretty fresh? Yeah, I'm hearing. I'm hearing it on like 204 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: a jam box back in the day, um, with a 205 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: lyric sheet maybe usually usually a lyric sheet. And and 206 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: this was the eighties, you know. So I would have 207 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: a ten o'clock at two o'clock at a six o'clock. 208 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: So usually there be three or four songs per sessions. 209 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: So I would listen to the cassette of the three 210 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: songs I had to sing at ten o'clock on the 211 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: way to the session, because I'd usually go by and 212 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: pick up a copy of the day before usually, and 213 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: I learned them on the way, and I was I 214 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: had a really good short term memory. So I and 215 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: I had this system of because you know, in Nashville 216 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: it's the number system, and I was like, do you 217 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: know the number system. I'm like, yeah, of course I didn't, 218 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: but I said I did because I wanted the work. 219 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: And my system was to listen and kind of just 220 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: make these little hieroglyphic lines that no one can understand 221 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: but me about this one, this song, there's a little 222 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: lick here, that melody goes up upon an arrow. Whatever 223 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: I need to do to kind of learn it. And 224 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: then I would sing those songs and then I would 225 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: um usually do a harmony, and then I would get 226 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: in the car and I learned the next three or 227 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: four songs on the way at the two o'clock. Because 228 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: you can't cramming to each of your cramming for a 229 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: test and to each one, and then the next day 230 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: you do it all over again. So sometimes I wouldn't 231 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you what I had sung that morning, 232 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: But if I eventually heard that on the radio, I'd 233 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: find myself singing along with a song and be like, oh, 234 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: I did the demo? Is that crazy? So it's subconsciously, yeah, 235 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: it's in here. But you're just sitting. Yeah. So, did 236 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: you ever sing demos of a song they're turned out 237 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: to be a pretty big one? Um I did. I 238 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: did sing a demo for a Lori Morgan song called 239 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: I Guess You Had to Be There. Sang the demo 240 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: for that. Um I sang, I'm trying to think there 241 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: was something else that I did that became a big song. 242 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: But oh, I did a demo for one of my 243 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: very first demos ever was a song that became a 244 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: hit for Sammy Kershaw called dunt Go near the completely 245 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: switch up, totally dung under the water. There a pride 246 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: to demos singing when when it does kind of make 247 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: it because you're like, oh, I was on the first 248 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: level of this. It kind of is. And especially before 249 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: you have a record deal on your own and you're 250 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: you're not hearing yourself on the radio, then you just 251 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: kind of feel like, Okay, I'm in I am in 252 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: this business somehow because I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm contributing. 253 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: And then the first time I heard myself on the 254 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: radio was as a harmony singer. I um Kathy Mattea 255 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: asked me to sing on a record of hers called 256 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: time passes by and I could hear my high harmony 257 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: and for me to hear myself singing on the radio, 258 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: that was the first time and it was like okay, 259 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: so every step was like a little step closer and 260 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: closer to where I wanted to be. We just did 261 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: a whole show about background singers and background singers that 262 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: you may not know we're singing background and some of 263 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: the ones that we talked about where recently we're Stableton 264 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: singing with Luke Brian and drink a beer. We went 265 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: back to your so vain from um Carly um Carli 266 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Simon with make Jagger who just happened to be in 267 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: the studio and was like I'll sing and you know 268 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: he's not credited or when the Beatles did. Uh, But 269 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: we did all this whole this whole show about background 270 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: singers and you may not know who the famous background 271 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: singer was kind of crossing on the wallflowers things like that. 272 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: But like you mentioned, you know, you saying, harmon, do 273 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: you sing background records? That was a step up from 274 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: demo singing when they had hired to come and sing 275 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: the backgrounds of the harmonies. Yeah, and I because you 276 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: were doing something that was for a record label that 277 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: was potentially going to get played on the radio. And 278 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I saying, you know, I think Garth Garth says, 279 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how many songs he's got, but I 280 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: mean I was singing on like a hundred songs of 281 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: his and sometimes you know, it's sometimes you don't know 282 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: it's me, but um. And he did the same for me. 283 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: He's singing on some of my records that you wouldn't 284 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: know he's singing on UM. And then Leroy Pornella sang 285 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: for as I saying with Vince Gill, I sang um. 286 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: I just I mean pretty much because I loved singing 287 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: harmony and I was good at it, and I was inexpensive, 288 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, so as a demo singer, you're like, I 289 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: come in, I know the song, I can sing home pitch, 290 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: and I can do my own harmonies, and you know, 291 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: twenty bucks, maybe forty if there's harmony, if there's more 292 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: than one harmony, and you're out the door. You know, 293 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: So it was a but you add those up in 294 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: a day and it was a pretty good living. So 295 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, it was it was I made better money 296 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: doing demos than I did as a receptionist, and then 297 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: I got a record deal, and then I was broke, 298 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, because then you stopped doing all of that, 299 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: and then you you're then you're in debt. And so 300 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: what's funny is, and this happens again to a lot 301 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: of my friends and people I know, is that you 302 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: as your profile goes up, you get poorer totally. And 303 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's a weird juxtapossession of here you go. 304 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: Everybody's like, well, I check this out, but you have 305 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: no time to do anything except kind of start over, 306 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: and you're not making any money. You know, they don't 307 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: give you an American idol. They don't give you a 308 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: bunch of money as soon you're not a record deal. 309 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: You know, they don't. And if they, whatever they give 310 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: you is to make your record, which is by the 311 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: way alone, because it back and then you pay it 312 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: all back and then you still don't own your record, 313 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: you know. So it's kind of a weird. It was 314 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: totally weird situation. Um. But yeah, and then when you do. 315 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: I remember that the first money that I actually made, 316 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: which I never saw the check, but the first money 317 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: that came in was the second album, Hearts and Armor, 318 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: when it went platinum. I remember that there was there 319 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: was gonna be some actual money coming in, and um, 320 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: it went right back into reinvesting in what we were 321 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: doing next because we were going on tour, and we 322 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: were you know, you're paying a band, you gotta you 323 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: gotta bus, you gotta pay for and it's it's a lot, 324 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, so we never really saw it. It's so much. 325 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: I was looking, you know, because I have a comedy 326 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: band and we play some do you know, we do 327 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: a few thousand people and night. It's just pretty good 328 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: little shows and I do stand up and we do 329 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: some comedy songs in the full band plays. But just 330 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: to pay the band and travel every show, it's thousands 331 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars. I was looking at my business manager, 332 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: and you know, because I'm paying my drummer. You gotta 333 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: pay your basis, you gotta pay your tour manager. You're 334 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: paying and by the time you look at the whole thing, 335 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: it's thousands of dollars for every show. And if you're 336 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: new and some of my you know, people have been 337 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: opening acts and you're getting you know, five to seven 338 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: for opening spot one of these tours, right, you're paying 339 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: that to just get there. Oh yeah, you're you're not 340 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: making any money. And I think it's harder, even harder 341 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: now because artists, you know, they pretty much don't do 342 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: a deal anymore. That's not a three sixty deal, right, 343 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: so you don't get so now you're you're used to 344 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: be that, you're you know, your money is, you're paying 345 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: everybody you have, you have all the responsibility, you pay 346 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: all the expenses. You're the last person paid. And now 347 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: a percentage of everything you make is going to your 348 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: record label, including your live show, including your merchandise, through 349 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: every single thing. So it sounds like, oh for me, 350 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: but I think people just assume, oh, they're just all 351 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: rolling in the dough, and it's really it's really for 352 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: ninety five of artists, it's a really hard job that 353 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: has you in debt. I mean, it's it's not it's 354 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: not you have to you have to do it because 355 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: you love it, you know, it's the I would say 356 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: it's the one percent of the one percent who make money, 357 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: because it's the one percent to get to this town 358 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: and be able to just be so good and good 359 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: meaning you've done the work to also be good, to 360 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: be so good that you get a shot and you 361 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: get signed, and that's just a shot. And then to 362 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: be the one percent who gets signed and actually can 363 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: make money and make a longer of it, it's the 364 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: one it's the point one percent of people who can actually, 365 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, make money. It's it's way more difficult than 366 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: I think some people think it is. Yeah, and I 367 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: think I think especially now with there's so many ways 368 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: if you don't have any kind of connection into the 369 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: music industry, there's so many ways now to get your 370 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: stuff out there with social media and YouTube and all 371 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: that that everybody does think, oh, I'll just do this 372 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: and I'll be famous or whatever. And even if you 373 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: become a sensation on YouTube, it doesn't guarantee, you know, 374 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: the the goal is longevity, and that's not easy to 375 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: do these online musicians. I was reading about a rapper, 376 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: young Dolf. I don't know who he was either. Maybe 377 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: you do, maybe don't you see the look in my eyes. 378 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't know he was. He was eating 379 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: at a cracker barrel. It's old Dolf's kid. Yeah, of course, 380 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: and do senor the whole generation of Dolfs. He had 381 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: a golf video. I think he was eating at a 382 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: cracker barrel, and he had five hundred thousand dollars of 383 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: jewelry in his car. There was they bust out his window. 384 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: It was all in his car. They stole it all 385 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: out of there. And I'm like, how did this dude 386 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: make five hundred thousand dollars? He's an online rapper. He's 387 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: a rapper who made it online. I don't know always 388 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: get that money. But some of these YouTubers can make 389 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: a quick pop, but you got to sustain that. But 390 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: half million dollars in a car? Are you kidding me? 391 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: And first of all, where's your business? Where someone telling 392 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: you to not? Nobody was half a million dogs with 393 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: the toury and nobody's te he was half a million 394 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: doges with the jewelry. Besides maybe like Liz Taylor, I 395 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: don't know jewel and in a car. Yeah, so someone 396 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: busted out the window. It was a camouflage wagon busted 397 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: at the crack. And I'm like, get the cracker barrel. 398 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: He's also gonna get the cracker barrel. There's there's some irish, 399 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: so many things wrong with his story. I can't even 400 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: when did like the for you? When did they start 401 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: to be Hey, we gotta get this music online? What part? 402 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: What stage? Um, like a couple of weeks ago, just Tricia, 403 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm sort of in the last man standing. Um. Sorry, 404 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: I h it's it's hard because I come from a 405 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: different kind of a different era, you know, of the 406 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: way music was made and sold, and I am also 407 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: wanting to be current, so I want to do things 408 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: the way things are being done. I know people consume 409 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: music in such a different way. Um. And this was 410 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: really the album, This Let's be Frank album was the 411 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: one that I said, Okay, let's just put it everywhere 412 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: because we just what we want is for as many 413 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: people to discover it as possible. So let's put it 414 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: in every single possible form we can, which is why 415 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: if you buy the album or you buy the vinyl, 416 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 1: there's a digital download inside. We're on all the streaming. Um. 417 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: We just want we just want to get it out there. 418 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I it's tough for me because I 419 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: as a as a listener and a consumer of music, 420 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: I consume that same way. So if I if I 421 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: want to hear a song and I and I go 422 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: to YouTube and watch the video, then I might be 423 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: less likely to buy the record. So what's going to 424 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: motivate me to buy it if I can just hear 425 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: it in all these places for free. But at the 426 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: same time, you have to get it out there for 427 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: people to hear. So, um, we just said, let's go 428 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: for it. Why do I play for the last time? 429 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: This is from the Let's Be Frank album. I have 430 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: it here, I have it on vinyl time I'm in love. 431 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: The last time my love was luck with no Melity. 432 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: This is the next to last track on the record. 433 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: I just look at the track list. You have a 434 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: vinyl you gave me here. Do you listen to things 435 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: on vinyl? I do? You know? What's really cool is 436 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: that it makes me listen to albums again all the 437 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: way through, which is because it's hard to skip. I 438 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: agree with that. So and there's reasons for the the 439 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: way records are made in a certain order. It was 440 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: the first time in a long time that I had 441 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: to think about, what do you want to start side 442 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: B with? You know, It's like I haven't thought about 443 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: that in a long time. You know. Is it a 444 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: different order than if you were to stream the record 445 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: that you did the album the vinyl with? Yes, because 446 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: because of that, because you want and on vinyl. One 447 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: of the reasons that we moved away from vinyl as 448 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: a format is because it can only handle a certain 449 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: amount of time on the on the vinyl before it 450 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: starts to lose the quality of the record. Well, no, 451 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: it's it's actually the minutes on the record, so like 452 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: something over twenty two minutes aside, something about the grooves 453 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: in the vinyl makes the sound quality go go the 454 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: other way. So so there's that, you know. So we 455 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: actually had another song. We dropped a song on this 456 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: off of this to make it fit on the vinyl, 457 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: and then I decided not to add it back on CD. 458 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: You can put as many as you want. Um, I 459 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to. I didn't do that because I didn't 460 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: want there to be something somewhere that went anywhere else. 461 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: So that's a consideration. And then you have to think about, well, 462 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna flip this record over, how does it's 463 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: almost like a a six song playlist on each side? 464 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: Here is come fly with Me, Come Fly with Me. 465 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: That's fly Let's fine. Did you find that songs like this, 466 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: the more legendary songs, were a little harder to do 467 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: because everybody knows them because I would be like, I 468 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: just don't want to screw this up. Everybody knows yes. 469 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: And also interestingly, the big, huge, lush symphony ballads, we're 470 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: not as hard as the lighter like come Fly with Me, 471 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: kind of the jazzy, more rhythmic things, because you find 472 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: yourself trying to think about being cool when you're singing it, 473 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: and you have to not think about it. You have 474 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: to just like you have to go, look, you know 475 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: what to sing, don't overthink it, don't worry about it, 476 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: just sing it. Um. But yes, I mean come Fly 477 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: with Me, one for my Baby, one for the Road. 478 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: Those are such quintessential Frank songs, right, so you just 479 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: have to hope that people know that you are just 480 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: trying to show your respect. And with Frank, it's such 481 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: a weird thing because you want to do it right 482 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: because of Frank's legend. However, people love Frank and if 483 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: you don't do it right. I just I danced to 484 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: Frank's Natra song I Dance with Stars, and people were 485 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: lighting me up because I wasn't great at the dancer. 486 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: It's like, how would you disrepect Frank Sinatra? And I 487 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: was like, I'm dancing. This isn't I didn't New York, 488 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: New York, and they were like, how would you just like? 489 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: I dance a good I could a lot of dancer. 490 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: I just liked the song. But I saw then a 491 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: little bit how pissy people would get when you wouldn't 492 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: do everything wonderfully. What you have to do is you 493 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: have to just understand that if you I know that 494 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: my respect level for him and his music is high. 495 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: I know that my intention was to make a record 496 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: that was mine but also was a very uh you know, 497 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: specific tribute to him. And there's got to be somebody 498 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: out there that is like, really, what does this country 499 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: chicks thinking doing a Sinatra record? But I really don't care. 500 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like, if you're gonna do it, 501 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, you go out and you dance your heart out, 502 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: Bobby Bones, and you don't worry about what I worried 503 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: about whatever. But it thought because I wasn't for the 504 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: last Um, let's be Frank's out. Um. I should mention 505 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: that first song that we played, that's the one that 506 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: you and Garth wrote, right, is that that's what you 507 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: told me. We talked about it on the radio show. 508 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: No Yeah, we um, yeah that one. So I came 509 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: home with, um, this title in my head and I 510 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: think I told you when we talked before that you 511 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: know Garcia one and all the songwriter Hall of Fames, 512 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: and so I'm like, I don't. I'm not really a 513 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: confident writer, and I tend to do things that come 514 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: easy to me, but if they're a little bit of work, 515 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,239 Speaker 1: I give up pretty quickly. I'm good at that. And uh, 516 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: writing is one of those things that I mean, I've 517 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: written all my cookbooks and their stories about my life 518 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: and my family, but they're not poems. They don't rhyme, 519 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: they're not you know, I'm not a poet like Garth is, 520 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: but he is. So it worked out really well and 521 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: we worked on this together, and I really I would 522 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: I would not have. I didn't intend to write a 523 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: song for the record. It wasn't didn't happen at the 524 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: same time. But um, when the song was finished, it 525 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: felt like a throwback to another era. So when this 526 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: album came about, it felt like the place to put it. 527 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: It fits with all the other songs too, Like I 528 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: if I would have just played it and not known. 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You mentioned 555 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: that you like you sang on roughly a hundred guard songs. Yeah, 556 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: something like that. Do you heard the first time that 557 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: you ever went and sang with him? Or was he 558 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: just wanted the singers you were popping into way? No? 559 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, actually I met Garth Um. It's kind of 560 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: a famous story. Now. We were introduced by a guy 561 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: named Kent Blazie who wrote um if Tomorrow Never Long? 562 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: And I did demos for Kent. So when during those 563 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: demo days, when I was driving around with the cassette 564 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: in my car, UM, Kent was one of the first 565 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: guys I met in Nashville, long before I met Garth. 566 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: And so Kent had a studio in his attic of 567 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: his house and I would go over to his house 568 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: and I would sing, and Kent kept saying, I'm working 569 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: with this other guy, and UM, you guys need to 570 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: meet each other. I feel like you guys would really 571 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: get along. And he needed he needs to call you 572 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: to do some of his chick singer demos and like cool, 573 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: and Garth was, um, didn't have a record do it yet. 574 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: I think he had just signed with Capital, didn't have 575 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: an album out yet. And um, so one day Kent 576 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: hired us uh for to do a demo a duet. 577 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: So we met at Kent's house in the attic for 578 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: ten bucks a song. And Garth says he didn't get 579 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: paid anything that day, but I think he got ten 580 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: bucks that day. And um, that was the day that 581 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: we met. So we met before he was you know, famous. 582 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: And I remember him saying, because that day he said 583 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: he went to Bob Dull, his manager, and said this 584 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: girl like you've got to hear this girl sing. I 585 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: UM remember him saying, you know, I just got signed 586 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: to Capital, I'm about to put up my first album, 587 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: and I hope some day, you know, we can work 588 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: together and uh if I'm lucky enough to do well 589 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: and whatever. And remember when he left, I thought, that's cool, 590 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: Like I mean, I thought, this guy's got really big dreams. 591 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope, you know, like he's he's not 592 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: even released his album yet and he's asking me to, 593 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, be on his tour kind of thing. And 594 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: then of course he became Garth Brooks and after that 595 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: first album, UM, then he called me to come and 596 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 1: sing on the second album, and so it was songs 597 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: like um uh Cole's Shoulder when that on the second album, 598 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: Cole Shoulder was on the second album. UM, I missed 599 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: the Friends in the Places day I was out of 600 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: town on Toury literally missed that day, which really bummed 601 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: me out because there's like everybody's on that song and 602 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: I wanted to be on that record and it wasn't um. 603 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: But fast forward to when I got my record deal 604 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: a couple of years later, and uh, by that time, 605 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: Friends and the Places was out and he was this phenomenon, 606 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, and so he he said, let's go over 607 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: to m c A and go see Tony Brown and 608 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: about seeing if you want to come out on tour 609 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: with me. And everybody was wanting to be on that tour. 610 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it was like the tour to be on. 611 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: And so when we got to the front desk, the receptionist, 612 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Willie she Um called back to Tony and said Garth 613 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: and Trisher here, and Garth Fondis is my producer, so 614 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: Tony thought it was me and my producer. And so 615 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: I walked in with Garth Brooks and he's like, i'd 616 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: like to want I like to talk to you about 617 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: maybe taking Trisha on this tour, and of course I 618 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: was like yes, you know. So for me it was 619 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: kind of a blessing and a curse because I had 620 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: grown up doing demos. I had not grown up in 621 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: the clubs. I had not come up through learning my 622 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: way in front of a small crowd of drunks. So 623 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: my very first audiences were opening for Garth and you know, 624 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: doing a set in front of fifteen thousand people who 625 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: didn't know who I was. That was my first and 626 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: of course Garth being Garth, you know, most of the time, 627 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: if you're on a big tour like at the artist 628 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: has all their stuff and then there's a big curtain 629 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: in front of it and you've got about three ft 630 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: to stand in front of them do your show, which 631 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: would have been a dream coming true for me because 632 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: I was terrified. And of course Garth's like, here, use 633 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: my whole stage, you know, and I'm like, oh, that's 634 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: so great, So that was it was terrifying, but I 635 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: had to It was really baptism by fire, you know. 636 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: And I had Shees and Loved the Boy out, which 637 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: was doing well, but that was the only song I 638 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: had on the radio, so people spent either the entire 639 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: twenty minutes I was out there getting popcorn or yelling 640 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: for Sheason Loved the Boy, you know, until that was 641 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: my last song. Is that the first song of yours 642 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: that you heard on the radio? Yeah, She's in Love 643 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: with the Boy? Yeah, and play that one a little bit. 644 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: Did you know it was coming when you heard it 645 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: the first time? I remember exactly where I was. I 646 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: was just I was right down the street here in 647 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: Green Hills, driving down the road in a had a 648 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: four door Burgundy Honda used and I was driving down 649 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: that road and I heard it come on, and I 650 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: rolled all the windows down, and I don't know why. 651 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: I guess I thought I wanted everybody on the street 652 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: to hear too. I don't. I mean, it was like this, 653 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: you know, just this whole your whole body lights up, 654 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, and um, it was the most exciting thing 655 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: in the world because I had literally wanted to be 656 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: a singer since I was five years old, and I 657 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: remember listening to the radio and my mom's and dad's 658 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: kitchen in our house, thinking I was naive enough to think, well, 659 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: they're on the radio, why can't I be? And I 660 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason that I became one 661 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: of those one percent, because I didn't know the odds. 662 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what the odds were, and I really 663 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: just believable. If they can do it, why can't I 664 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: do it? Did you feel when you were working at 665 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: the front desk and people would come into work in 666 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: a profession that you wanted to do, that you were 667 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: as good as they were already? Because I know it's 668 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: frustrating when people are doing what you want to do, 669 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: But did you feel like, oh, I'm I'm there talent wise, 670 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: it's just gotta put in my time. My thing was 671 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: I believed in my voice. I believed that I had 672 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: a voice and that I could sing. But I'm I'm 673 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: basically an introvert. I mean, I'm not like I grew 674 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: up watching Barbara Mandrell on television and she played every 675 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: instrument and she danced and she did all this stuff, 676 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: and I was not. I'm not that kind of an entertainer, 677 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: and so I really thought, um, you know, I'm I 678 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: can sing, I'm a little bit overweight. I don't play 679 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: an instrument. Really, I can play a little bit of guitar, 680 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: but I don't. So I didn't think I had enough. 681 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: I thought, I've got this one skill that I believe in, 682 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: but I don't have all these other ones. So I 683 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: think for me it was I did have a strong 684 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: belief in myself, and I don't think if I didn't, 685 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sitting here. But at the same time, 686 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: I had all these doubts about the things that I 687 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: thought I needed to be able to do before I 688 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: could be be successful at it. So you felt you 689 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: had to develop. Even then you felt like you need 690 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: to develop a bit more. Yet no, no, I mean. 691 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: And I went to Belmont where there were so many 692 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: music majors, and you couldn't you throw a stick without 693 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: somebody telling you what a great singer they were, you know, 694 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: And I was not that girl. And even actually at 695 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: at MTM Records, Um, after I got my record deal, 696 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: there were people at that building who said, we didn't 697 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: even know, we didn't know sang. Really, yeah, so you 698 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: weren't you aren't one of the ones that were like, hey, 699 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: I sing i sing I was not. I was not. 700 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: How did you change that? Then? How did you start 701 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: telling people I sing i sing? I think it was 702 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: because I was shy and I wasn't bold about telling 703 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: people I was a singer. But after working at that 704 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: label for about six months and answering the phones and 705 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: ordering liquid paper and not and watching people do what 706 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, I realized, if I don't tell 707 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: somebody this is what I do, if I don't really 708 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: get off my butt and try to make this happen, 709 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: then I'm going to get to do this for the 710 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: rest of my life. And I reconnected. I had UM. 711 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: I had a couple of songwriters, one was camp Lazy 712 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: that I had done demos for, and I UM. I 713 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: just found those guys again and said, hey, I'm trying 714 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: to find I'm trying to get some demo work, and 715 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: demo work was my way out. Once I started to 716 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: get enough work that I could actually quit my job. 717 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: Who was it for you that took the big shot 718 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: like you? We went, Wow, this person really like put 719 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: it out there for me to believed in me, when 720 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't have to. I mean there was, there 721 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: were several were a lot of people. The chain of 722 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: events were the two Garth's honestly, because when I met 723 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: Garth Brooks, he was the person who introduced me to 724 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: Alan Reynolds, his producer, and Alan was really a great 725 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: friend to me because Alan gave me advice based on 726 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: what he thought was best for me, not what he 727 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: thought I could maybe do for him. And he was 728 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: the guy who said you should meet Garth Fundis. He's 729 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: a guy who I feel like you guys really hit 730 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: it off. And Fundus was the one who, when he 731 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: heard me seeing said let's do a showcase. He's the 732 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: one who went to bat for me at the record 733 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: labels and to help me get a record deal. And 734 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: he was the one who helped me get the music 735 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: that was in my head on to tape what I 736 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: what I really wanted, how I really wanted to sound, 737 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: and the music kind of music that I wanted to make. 738 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: So it was it was really all of those people together, 739 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: because I would never met Garth Fundus if it wouldn't 740 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: have been for Garth Brooks um and so I guess 741 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: it really was, you know, ended up being my husband 742 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: the one that really believed in me. That that was 743 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: like the Stargeant telling everybody about me. And he didn't 744 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: even have a single on the radio, so he was 745 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: doing that before. He was, Yeah, freaking Garth Brooks. He 746 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: was just a guy named Garth. He just he was 747 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: a less famous guard probably the time. And he was. 748 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: And then it was like I knew two Guarths. Now. 749 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: Eventually the guy there's a guy who's a tour manager's 750 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: name is Garth and he came in and um did 751 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: an interview for a job, and I told him, I said, 752 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: you're probably great at what you do, but I can't 753 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: know you, like I just can't, Like I I have 754 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: two guards in my life. It's already too weird, Like 755 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: I just can't do it. That's a true story that happened. 756 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: That's a lot of guards. I mean, even two guards. 757 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: I know obviously your husband a bit. I don't know 758 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: any other Garths I know. It's so it's so odd. 759 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: And actually if we're all in the studio together, which happens, 760 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: it's very strange, you know. So actually I started calling 761 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: Garth fund As Tennessee because I'm like, I have to 762 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: have like a nickname for you. Because I can't because 763 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: I'd say Guarth. They both with their head around, you know, 764 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: like because they never hear anybody else called Garth. So yeah, 765 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: so it's a it's a thing on on this new 766 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: Let's Be Frank record. You went and recorded, did you 767 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: say you recorded like with the like the mic that 768 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra used. Does that mic just chill there or 769 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: they like bring it out for special occasions they use it. 770 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, Capital is like a working museum, 771 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: you know. I mean you walk and you think this 772 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: stuff should be behind glass. But I guess it's cool 773 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: that you actually get to use this stuff. But at 774 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: the same time, it's like it's Sinatra's microphone and um 775 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: and the bar stools in there, the straight back chairs, 776 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: they're they're like, there's tons of photos of Frank and 777 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: and Judy Garland and Dean Martin. All this stuff is 778 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: that is the Capital gear, and I guess that's part 779 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 1: of the vibe. I mean, you definitely feel the ghosts 780 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: in this room when you're in there. But I would 781 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: be afraid to use all that stuff. But I mean 782 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: some of the best microphones, like Nashville, where where I 783 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: make my country records I use. I used this annoyment. 784 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: It's called C twelve and it's a Now it's a 785 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: microphone that I've used for years because I like how 786 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: it my voice can tend to if I get loud 787 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: at either the Michael shut down or the Michael sound really, 788 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: I'll sound really tinny and high ending, and I don't. 789 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: I want it to still sound warm, and that's a challenge. 790 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: And the other thing is if they put a compressor 791 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: on your voice, then you can handle the big lud, 792 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: but it just still shut your voice down. So it's 793 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: a thing. So there's this one microphone that I love, 794 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: and I've been trying to buy this microphone forever because 795 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: there are you can put four the same exact side 796 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: by side, but there's one that's gonna sound different. And 797 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: I've been stalking this microphone for years, and I finally 798 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: I bought it, like last week. Yeah, finally finally they 799 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: sold Um. Not not terrible, but it's it's yeah, but 800 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: hard to get. And it's an old microphone. So so 801 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: this microphone is probably years old. So it is a 802 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: it's that it's one of those things that doesn't that 803 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: that time is a friend too. It doesn't make it 804 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: like old. This is just old. There is something sweet 805 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: about it. And I will say that that that Frank 806 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: microphone was warm and friendly, and it just made your 807 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: voice feel like butter, and you just felt like you 808 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: could sing anything. One of the things that I would 809 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: compare it because I am very particular abou the mics 810 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: that I use every day, right, because I talk every day, 811 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: so mikes are important to me, and also headphones. But 812 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: I would compare them to people who don't. If you 813 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: don't work in music or sound like the you can 814 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: have ten pair of jeans that are exactly the same, 815 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: but one of those pair of jeanes is gonna fit 816 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: you so just right. You may have three pairs you 817 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: own it the same, but that one pair you always 818 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: go back to because it just feels the best. And 819 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: you can't really explain it so much like a little bit. 820 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: You can maybe it fits you a little better here, 821 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: but you're like, oh, this one just feels better, Like 822 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: it fits me better. That's how I describe abology, and 823 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: and the microphone too, and what you hear in your headphones, 824 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: it's so um subjective, right, So it's whatever feels good 825 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: to you. And sometimes it's hard to describe if especially 826 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: if I'm in the studio and the engineer is um 827 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: ask me what I need. Sometimes it's hard to say 828 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: exactly what it's doing. But if you're if you've worked 829 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: with somebody long enough, you can kind of say I 830 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: feel this way or that way and they're like, oh, 831 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: I got it, and they'll they'll figure it out. That's 832 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: the one thing I've really enjoyed about making records with 833 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: Garth Fondis, who we've made it most of our records 834 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: with and we just finished in a country record now, 835 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: is that we've worked together for so long that I 836 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: can tell him something's not right and I don't know 837 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: exactly what it is, but I but something in here 838 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: is bugging me. And he'll usually go, oh, I bet 839 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: you don't like the blah blah blah here, let's turn 840 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: that down. He he knows me well enough to kind 841 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: of know. So we have a language That is nice 842 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: because I can't always articulate what I want, but he 843 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: seems to know. Then. It's funny because the analogy I 844 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: used for that is like if you're getting like a massage, 845 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to say exactly where it hurts, but if 846 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: they like confined it, you're like, oh, that's it, that's it. 847 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: That's right there, Like that's that's how adjusting something that 848 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: you really can't explain is. Yeah, that's for sure. Oh 849 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: you gotta come back a little bit there, right there, 850 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: right there there it is. That's that's also the sound 851 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: I do. I get a massage when you do from 852 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: this Let's be Frank record. Will you do any of 853 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: these songs live? Yeah? Um we we just did our 854 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: first show um at the Rainbow Room in New York, um, 855 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: fitting for the Frank Record. And it was the first 856 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: time I had done all of these songs. And it's 857 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: really funny. You'll find this funny. I think I had 858 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: done a few of the songs, but I hadn't done 859 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: the whole show. And I've been doing a lot of 860 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: press in New York that week, and um, I had 861 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: a long day. It was one of those morning shows 862 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: where I got up at four and then I had 863 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: to show that night. And in about three o'clock that afternoon, 864 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: before sound check, it hit me, I haven't done these songs, Like, 865 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if I know all the words. Did? 866 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: They all laughed and the ladies of Tramp. There's a 867 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: lot of verses, and there's a lot going on here, 868 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: and I'm nervous. And as the Rainbow Room innutes New York, 869 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: and so I spent a couple of hours while I 870 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: was getting made hair, makeup, and everybody's coming and asking 871 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: me questions, listening and listening and listening. So I was 872 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: terrified that night because I thought, I can't go out 873 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: of here and this. I've been waiting to do this 874 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: record for twenty years, and I don't remember all the 875 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: words to the ladies of Tramp, like I will be 876 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: I will be carried out of here, you know, record 877 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: on their phone right exactly. Um. And but I did. 878 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: I did find it was a good night. It was 879 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: a good night. But I was terrified. UM. And I 880 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: loved it, like I loved singing these songs. We did 881 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: a few of like we did She's Loved the Boy, 882 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: and we did um walk Away Joe. But I kind 883 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: of couldn't wait to get to these songs just because UM. 884 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: And when we do, when we do a tour, we'll 885 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: do some of the songs that people know me for, 886 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: but we'll also do these. It's just I don't know 887 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: how we're gonna do it because you kind of want 888 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: you're it's kind of changing into a different mode, and 889 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: when you're in that mode, you kind of want to 890 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: stay there. So we'll see how we do it. I've 891 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: done some symphony shows before before I made this record, um, 892 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: and I have some really cool orchestra arrangements for some 893 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: of those songs. But um, so we'll see that expensive 894 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: talking about expensive band orchestra, yeah, I mean yes, I 895 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: mean that's the thing. You know, a lot of people 896 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: don't use live orchestra anymore because it's so expensive. L 897 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: A was good and they get a lot of work 898 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 1: because they had a lot of movie scores and stuff. 899 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: But um, fifty pieces. I mean, you know, this album 900 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: will have to do well for me to do another 901 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: one because it's really a lot of money and you 902 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: don't have to do that anymore. But I can't imagine 903 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: having done this another way. To be in the room 904 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 1: with everybody, it's almost like you're all taking in same 905 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: breath in and out, and the conductors across from you 906 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: and he's looking at you for a signal of how 907 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: long do you want to pause here and how and 908 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: you're all working together and it feels like you're just 909 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: another instrument in the room. And I can't imagine doing 910 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: it another way. It was, It's one of the coolest 911 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: things ever. Would you use a prompter, let's say the 912 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: words you just didn't have it? Would you put a 913 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: prompter up? I mean, I hope I've never done that. 914 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: I hope not, because here's what. Here's what I find. 915 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: If I'm doing an award show or something and they 916 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: they'll have the prompter. I even if I if I'm 917 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: singing She's a Love of the Boy, which I sang 918 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: a million times, and I know I'm gonna I'm gonna 919 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: look at the prompter, you know. So I feel like 920 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: it's a thing that makes you look. And I've been 921 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: to shows and seeing people use prompter and I find 922 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: them staring at the prompter, and so I don't want 923 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: to be that girl. So as long as I can 924 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: remember the words, and if I forget words, I just 925 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: blame someone else, like I blame the microphone. I pretend 926 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: something's wrong, you know, like I have lots of ways 927 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: around it, or I just acknowledge I totally totally forgot 928 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: the words. Um. I'd rather do that, I think than UM. 929 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: And I have a pretty good memory for lyrics. So 930 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: as long as I do, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep 931 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: doing that. You mentioned Walkaway Joe, and we'll play that 932 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: just for a bit here, A song like that that 933 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,959 Speaker 1: you're saying to thousand times, right, do you go into 934 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: a mode of like when you drive, you know you're driving, 935 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: but you've driven this way so many times that you 936 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: probably are doing most of that driving subconsciously? Do you 937 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: do that with these massive songs where it's just like 938 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: you're so comfortable it's hard to not fall back into 939 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: the subconscious place of just singing the song. I mean, 940 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: I would would be lying if I said I'd never 941 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: done that. But the time, I I'm so dramatic, and 942 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: I love a story, and I always make myself a 943 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: character in the story. So if in that in Walkaway Joe, 944 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm a character for those three and a half minutes, 945 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: you know. So I really get lost in the lyric 946 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: of a song, and I enjoy that. That's part of 947 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: what I get out of live performing. So I will 948 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: say that I I'm sure I've done it, but I 949 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: also do really think about this. This is something that 950 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: that I learned on the garth tour, there's gonna be 951 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: somebody in the audience who's never seen you before and 952 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: it's never going to see you again, and the only 953 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: time they're ever going to hear walk Away Joe Live 954 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: is this moment, And so I don't really want to 955 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: be making my mental grocery list while they're in there 956 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: for that moment. And I do think about that before 957 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: I go out. So um, I'm sure I've done it, 958 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: but I try not to do it. And Mickey Mantle 959 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: would say, there's always somebody in in the stands who 960 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: has never seen Mickey Mantle before and will never see 961 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle again, So I gotta go out and make 962 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: it special for that person. But it's such a hard 963 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: thing to do because you see you do it so often. 964 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: Do you in Carthey keep to the pep talks? Because 965 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: I've never met either one of you together separately, and 966 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: you're not just awesome, and it's almost annoying where it's 967 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: like I would like to I'd like to catch you 968 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: on off day because that just means you're human. You know, 969 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: you guys have never not been awesome to me. Well, 970 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: I'm more human than him. I mean I think he 971 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons that I have um 972 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: more of a grateful, positive outlook in life in general 973 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: is because of him, because he he looks at everything 974 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: in a positive way. I mean, he will he will 975 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: spend the positive no matter what, And I think that 976 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: I I want to be that, but I'm not as 977 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: much so as him, but I am more so that 978 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: way with him in my life. And I think that 979 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: there's just a I mean, honestly, when you really think 980 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,240 Speaker 1: about it, what we get to do for a living, 981 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: if you really think about it, is so such a 982 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: great job. It's not even really a job. It's like 983 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm getting paid to have every day be different in 984 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: my life, and I get to go sing and I 985 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: get to basically set my own schedule, and I'm doing 986 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: what I have always wanted to do my whole life. 987 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: So I really, if I complain about that, someone should 988 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: really just punch me in the face. Can I be 989 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate for a second? Yes, you sacrifice a lot. 990 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: You have a lot of talent. It's not that anybody 991 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: can do it. And you not only have a lot 992 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: of talent because a lot of people have talent, but 993 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: people don't have talent and work ethic, and again it's 994 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: that perfect mixture of the both and also catching a 995 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: couple of breaks and giving a couple of breaks. Like 996 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: it is. I agree with you because I feel the 997 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: same way. But again, it's not like it was handed 998 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: to you and you go out and go you know 999 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 1: what this this is given to me. I actually appreciate 1000 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: what was given to me, like you work so hard 1001 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: for it. Well, I think there is. I mean, I 1002 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: think it's a Will Rogers quote that something about um 1003 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: luck is disguised in overalls and something. I felt like 1004 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: it's a bunch of work. But I mean, I think 1005 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: it is a drive that makes the work feel like 1006 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: not work really, because it's you're so driven. I don't. 1007 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 1: I always say, I don't feel like I chose this, 1008 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: Like I never I didn't wake up one day and go, hey, 1009 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: I think it'd be really cool to be a singer. 1010 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I was, and it felt like a 1011 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: calling and it was almost It was hard when I 1012 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: couldn't do it because as a young girl and as 1013 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: a teenager in a small town where nobody did what 1014 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, I didn't know how to go 1015 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: about it. And that was the most frustrating part. Once 1016 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 1: I got to Nashville. Then I'm like, Okay, I'm here now, 1017 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna be here and I'm gonna I'm 1018 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: just gonna figure it out. There's a drive there. And 1019 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: I am a person who I like balance. So like yesterday, 1020 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: I didn't have anything on my schedule yesterday, and I say, 1021 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: to my pajamas most of the day, I play with 1022 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: my dogs, I read a book, I had coffee and 1023 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: I loved it. But I couldn't. I couldn't do that 1024 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: every day. I need this. This has been a great day. 1025 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: It's been a really busy day. I've had the best day. 1026 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: So it's a it's and it's because I'm doing what 1027 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: I enjoy. Yeah, I feel the same way. And I 1028 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: work really hard but also love what I do, which 1029 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: makes me work really hard, which is because I love. 1030 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: It's just a it's a nice little circle. Yeah, the 1031 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: recycle arrows almost. It's like, you do have to figure 1032 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: out the balance when you have I don't have that yet. 1033 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: Do you know anybody I don't even life balance? Let 1034 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: me know. Um, yeah, I don't know. If I can help, 1035 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: you don't tell them. I don't drink though, because it 1036 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 1: runs the whole thing. I want to talk abou need 1037 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: that though, Bobby, we have to find you. We have 1038 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: to find you that balance. You need it because you 1039 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: will just work all the time if you don't have 1040 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,760 Speaker 1: a bad Well, that's what I do. Here's my cycle 1041 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: is that I go, I'm gonna work all the time 1042 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: because if I work hard, I gets because called that 1043 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: somebody will like me. Right, And then I work all 1044 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: the time and I don't build my my ecosystem of 1045 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: friends and folks. And so when I go, you know what, 1046 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna work. I'm gonna take a second and 1047 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: I take a break, and there's no go system a 1048 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: friend that folks on me because I haven't built. It's 1049 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: like being a gardener. We're not playing in the garden 1050 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: for my food. We didn't plan an idiot. That's why 1051 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: it's like, that's what I'm saying to myself. And then 1052 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it's screwed this. I don't want 1053 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: to be I don't have system's gonna keep working. So 1054 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: it never end. After you've been through all the Netflix 1055 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: you can watch, then it's time to go back to work. Yeah, 1056 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: I do want you have watched Netflix. What do you 1057 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: what do you watch recently? Um, well, I've been on 1058 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: this whole kick of all these really disturbing documentaries on 1059 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: everything that you know from abducted in plain Site so disturbing. 1060 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't help myself to Dirty John too. 1061 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: Like it's just like I really need to watch like 1062 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: a Disney movie, although usually someone dies in the first 1063 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 1: five minutes, so that's not good when need to find 1064 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: something else that abducted a plain sight so disturbing, so 1065 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: incredibly disturbing. I'm glad it was only one episode. I 1066 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: would've done in a second one. Yeah. I get excited 1067 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: when I find me too. I get excited when I 1068 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 1: find out a show that I love has new episodes 1069 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: that I didn't know so that I can bange watch. 1070 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: So I just figured out the second half of the 1071 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: last of this current season of Shameless is out and 1072 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: I didn't know it. So yesterday and I was in 1073 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: my pajamas, I got to watch like four episodes in 1074 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: a row that I had not seen, and I was 1075 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,959 Speaker 1: so excited because I love that show. Um, you watched 1076 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: Ted Bundy tapes? I did. That's that's I can't wait 1077 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: to the movie. I can't wait to see the movie 1078 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: movies and it's it's a Netflix movie too, is it. Yeah, 1079 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: so it'll be right right into our even the great 1080 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: isn't The great thing about Netflix movies is that I 1081 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: didn't even tell you they're coming, so you don't sit 1082 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: there and go, I can't wait. I can't wait. It's 1083 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: like boom, you got a movie and I love it. 1084 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 1: It's ramy. I was a kid. I was in high 1085 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: school when um or Junior High was. It was eighties, right, 1086 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: so I was in high school. So when that story 1087 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: was real and a thing, it was before cell phones. 1088 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: It was also really before like serial murders. It was 1089 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: like that was kind of the beginning. So I remember, 1090 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: and one of my best friends who lives here in 1091 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: Nashville is from Seattle, and she she there's that that 1092 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: park that one of the girls was. She was in 1093 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: that park that day and um, she and her girlfriend 1094 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: saw a BW bug drive by and slow down and 1095 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: then they went and they ran, they ran into the woods, 1096 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, maybe you, like if think you might 1097 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: have seen Ted Bundy that day. Like so it's it's 1098 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: terrifying when you realize that it's kind of happened when 1099 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: it could have happened to you as as a young girl. 1100 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: And also that it was kind of the beginning of 1101 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: this whole serial killer thing. So if you if you 1102 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: were alive during that time, I mean, our kids go, well, 1103 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't even understand it. I'm like, yeah, 1104 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: it was, it was a thing. It was a big deal. 1105 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: The craziest thing about that to me was state to 1106 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: state you could basically go do whatever you want in 1107 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: this state, just jump over the state line, and they 1108 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: didn't share records with each other. You're a brand new man, 1109 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: all right. I mean, isn't he the reason that there 1110 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: became like an FBI database because there wasn't one, right 1111 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 1: that and also the fact that he escaped jail twice 1112 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: blew my mind. He would practice jumping off his top 1113 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: cell to get his legs strong so we can jump 1114 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: out of the building. Then when he lost all the weight, 1115 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: so we could go through the little ceiling square in 1116 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: the ceiling to get out of me and come on, Yeah, 1117 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: that was crazy. And then I felt guilty when it 1118 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: was over because I really enjoyed it, Like I enjoyed 1119 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,720 Speaker 1: the show of it, and I enjoyed learning the history 1120 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: of it, and I'm like, oh, I shouldn't feel that way. 1121 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: So then I watch like five episode of the Office 1122 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: to kind of cleanse myself something I do. Want to 1123 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 1: talk about this country record that you're gonna put out, 1124 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: I'll just call it. I would even call it a 1125 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: country record. I would say, your record another record, because 1126 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: like it's time right, Just is me talking like it's 1127 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: time right? Yes, I mean thank you, I mean yes, 1128 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean I think what happened, honestly was I didn't 1129 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 1: say I'm going to take several years off of making records. 1130 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,919 Speaker 1: It just the tour with Garth plus the cooking show, 1131 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: which I you know, I never dreamed I would be 1132 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: doing all this other stuff. It's sort of became, well, 1133 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: I'll i'll make a record, I'll make a record, and 1134 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: it just kind of kept getting put on the back burner. 1135 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: And it is what feeds my soul. It is what 1136 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: I do. It is what brings me the most joy 1137 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: of all these things I do that I love. And 1138 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,479 Speaker 1: so last year or two thousand eighteen, after the tour ended, 1139 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: I just made it a priority and like I'm making 1140 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: music this year. And that's how the Sinatra record happened, 1141 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: and then I started the country record, which I would 1142 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: call it a country record in uh in May, and 1143 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: we're mixing starting this week. So um, it was so 1144 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: much fun. It reminded me that that whole life is 1145 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: short and get get after it thing. I don't want 1146 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: to wait. I want to just keep making music. I'm 1147 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: not worried about at this point in my life. I'm 1148 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,359 Speaker 1: not worried about how I'm going to get it out there. 1149 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: I'll figure that out. I mean, I don't know about radio, 1150 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't know about any of those things. But I 1151 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about any of that in the studio. I 1152 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 1: was just finding songs that felt good. I laughed a lot, 1153 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: I sang a lot, I feel like my voice feel strong, 1154 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: I feel good, and I just I did what I do. 1155 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: If you're going to call yourself an artist, that's what 1156 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 1: you do. And then you figure out someone else will 1157 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: help you figure out how you get it out there. 1158 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: Do you guys record a song and songs that you 1159 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 1: obviously really love and go, oh, that could be the single? 1160 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: Like do you do you now? Are you leaning towards one? 1161 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: You're going I think this is the one that and 1162 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: whatever single means radio highlighted on playlist. You know it first. 1163 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: It's funny because at first I said, and I said, um, 1164 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm not making her. I'm not even to send this 1165 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: record radio Like, I'm just gonna make an album. I 1166 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care about having anything on the radio. 1167 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: And then as I started making the record and started 1168 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 1: listening to the songs and started like I love these songs, 1169 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, this could be a single, you know, 1170 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: And so so we're I'm just about at that place 1171 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: where I'm going to figure that out. But I it's 1172 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: funny because I guess it's ego or it's my own 1173 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: self confidence. But when I hear it, I go, I 1174 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: I can hear this on on the radio, So I mean, 1175 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: that'll be for a group of people to weigh in on. 1176 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: But I feel like, um, I feel like there's there's 1177 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: crea some things. And the cool thing is the hard 1178 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: thing is I'm fifty four, I'm a woman. There's so 1179 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: those are two big strikes against me for radio. But 1180 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: the good news is that there is more opportunity, I think, 1181 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: and openness to do things however you do them now, 1182 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 1: So it doesn't it's not as well. You've got to 1183 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: be on these three labels, and you can only get 1184 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: there's there's just a million ways to do it now, 1185 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 1: so I think there's While some things are harder, some 1186 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: things are easy year. So um, we'll see. I'm excited 1187 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: about it. Well, thank you. Yeah, I am too, I 1188 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: really am. I mean I when we made the this 1189 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: Let's be frank in the summer, I've been chomping at 1190 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 1: the bit to get it out, and now that it's out, 1191 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm chomping at the bit to get the country record out. 1192 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 1: So um, I'm I'm very excited to come in and 1193 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: talk to you about it. Yeah, don't send it to 1194 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: me early though, I will not listen to it. I 1195 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: will not send it to early right, not that you 1196 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: were going to, but don't send it to me early. 1197 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: What's good to know because I want to. I want 1198 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: to send it to you and you'll listen to it. Well, 1199 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 1: My thing is, I think you can be of the 1200 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: industry other people, right, one of the two. And I 1201 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: don't listen to music early because I don't want to 1202 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: be cooler than my people, and so some of my 1203 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 1: best friends will go won't listen to it. I just 1204 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 1: I have a rule, and it's also a slippery slope. 1205 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 1: But but it's mostly about I don't want to be 1206 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: of the industry and it gets me a trouble a lot. 1207 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 1: You know good and bad, you know Yin yang. But 1208 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 1: I just I won't because like I like to wake 1209 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,919 Speaker 1: up on the Friday and I'll listen to it before 1210 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: I go to show sometimes sometimes after Never can I 1211 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: hear a full record before I go on the air. 1212 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: It takes an hour. Sometimes it's a weeds A record 1213 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: takes nineteen minutes one of the two. Um, and I 1214 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: like to experience it like my people experience it. And 1215 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: so yeah, like I'm excited if you come in early 1216 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: and we do an interview. This is what this is 1217 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: my moral dilemma. If you come in early, because sometimes 1218 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: let's say you're gonna go to press in New York, 1219 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to talk to me on 1220 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: album day, and you come in on a Wednesday and 1221 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: have to like play the clips. I feel like I'm 1222 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: dirty to my people because but I have to the interview. 1223 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: I feel bad I shouldn't hear this. It's like a 1224 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: baby that covers ear muffs from old school. Well, it's 1225 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: kind of like I will, like I want to go 1226 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 1: support the artists. So even for myself, like I have 1227 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: a thing where I go and buy my album on 1228 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: the first day. It's kind of like that. I mean, 1229 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: I um, and if somebody gives me an advanced copy 1230 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: of something, I still want to go buy it because 1231 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: I want all the artwork and I want I want 1232 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: everything I want to I want to have the original whatever. 1233 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: So I still do that since the very first album. 1234 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,320 Speaker 1: I go and buy my my records every on the 1235 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 1: on release day. Let me mention trip to tailgate real quick. 1236 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: Tell me about that. So when we were doing the 1237 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: tour with Garth the last one, I guess I just 1238 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: didn't notice it because I mean, I'm a sports girl, 1239 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: so I know about tailgating, and that's the thing in 1240 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: Georgia especially, but um, everybody tailgates for these concerts and 1241 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: they're there all day long and they're just waiting and 1242 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 1: waiting for the show. So we thought we'd set up 1243 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: a big tent, make it a very cool, very nice 1244 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: tailgate if you want to come beforehand, seven or eight 1245 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,360 Speaker 1: tricia dishes and drinks and games and we're gonna do 1246 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: food demos. It's just gonna be. It's kind of like 1247 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: the ultimate tailgate for about three hours before doors open 1248 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: to go in and see the stadium show. Yus are 1249 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: still giving to the fans. You know that you probably 1250 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: hear it some but you don't get here. People talk 1251 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: about you behind your back that often. But the thing 1252 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: that's said about both you and Garth and I said 1253 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 1: up to your face a minute ago, you guys are 1254 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: always great, and so we wonder are you real? Like 1255 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: you what's under that skin? I have to get back 1256 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: in my pod later. Yeah, do you walk into recharged 1257 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 1: like back in like the iPhone? But yeah, I mean, 1258 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: you guys are and I think that for a lot 1259 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: of artists it's something to look at, is that you 1260 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: guys really you know where my grandmaways say, well your 1261 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: bread is buttered and and I've learned from you guys too, 1262 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: And but I also know that my people got me 1263 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,399 Speaker 1: here there. I want to be doing this, I want 1264 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: to be doing the radio show. I want to be 1265 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: doing stand up on the road if it weren't for 1266 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: the people. But you guys are superstars and you still 1267 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: keep that as your number one. That's awesome to me. Well, 1268 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: I think you definitely have to keep in mind that 1269 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: you don't get to go out there and do those 1270 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 1: shows if those people don't show up. You know that 1271 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,439 Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't fly, you know. I think there's 1272 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: a real realization of that. And I I'm in a relationship. 1273 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: I keep giving Garth credit, But I mean when I 1274 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: my very first tour was opening for him in and 1275 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: it was like it was like the way to be 1276 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: one on one with him because he was he was 1277 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: He became a superstar, I mean like no one has 1278 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: seen in country music. And I watched him helping roll 1279 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,959 Speaker 1: up cords that load out and being kind to every 1280 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: single person in his path, and I remember thinking, well, 1281 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: he's Garth Brooks, Like he doesn't have to be nigh 1282 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 1: and people won't nobody's gonna say anything because he's like 1283 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: he's the star of the show. But the way he 1284 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 1: treated people was a lesson for me. And we both 1285 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: were raised by families who would not have tolerated us 1286 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 1: not being nice to people. But at the same time, 1287 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta hit record and people are opening 1288 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: the door for you and carrying your bags. I might 1289 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: have gone down the path if somehow in somewhere in 1290 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: my brain thinking I deserve that, but living with him 1291 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: and being around him, it was a great lesson to 1292 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: see to remember who you are always and no matter 1293 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: what happens to you. And I mean, I really do 1294 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 1: credit him with that because he and it's genuine. You know, 1295 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: I've known him such a long time now, and I 1296 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: thought at some point the other shoe's got a drop, 1297 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: like I think he's I think he's a He's a 1298 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: unicorn for sure, Like I keep thinking, I'm going to 1299 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: see the other side. And he's just a good guy. 1300 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 1: He just is. Andah, oh yeah, it's total baby, Yeah, 1301 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: total baby. Yes, he's got a cold, like, oh my god, 1302 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 1: he's not a good patience. That's what I figured. I 1303 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 1: knew he's not. There's this weakness. All right. Let's be 1304 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: frank Um is out now, and that the new country record, 1305 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: which we haven't said a name of anything yet. I 1306 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 1: don't know a name of anything. You don't know the 1307 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 1: name yet. I've got a couple ideas, but I'll probably 1308 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: have one by the next tilet me toss one at you. 1309 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: Let's be Tricia, Yeah, nice, we're doing it. Let's I 1310 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: really enjoyed our talking, you know, I really enjoy you. Um, 1311 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: you are a delight, you really are. I love this. 1312 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: It's like this time has gone really quickly. So we've 1313 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: been here seven hours really already tomorrow. Yeah, it's like 1314 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: when you start dating someone you talk older than night. 1315 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,439 Speaker 1: That's what he yeah right, yeah, you wouldn't know anything 1316 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 1: about that, about that so long. All right, let's be 1317 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: frank really, thank you, and everybody check out. Let's be 1318 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: frank and we'll just sit and wait, sit on our 1319 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: hands until the country. And no, I won't play it 1320 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 1: for you early, but I won't bring it to you 1321 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: the day of if you have a party, I will 1322 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 1: not be there. And we're going to have to do 1323 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 1: the release at Nashville just so I can come play 1324 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 1: it for you that day. It's going to have to have. 1325 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 1: It's so weird to have an artist play music for you, though, 1326 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 1: because I have to do this thing where you just 1327 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,320 Speaker 1: bob your head and act like you're feeling it. This 1328 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: is not what do you do if you're not like 1329 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: what if you don't say you do? You go into 1330 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: it the same way every time when this is me 1331 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: you ready, I'm act right now? Right? M that's it? 1332 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, it was good like it's the same thing, 1333 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: Bust that I'm gonna watch you like a hawk. Next 1334 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: time we get together and you're listening to my music, 1335 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 1: I will know. I won't listen to ask Leslie. I 1336 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: will listen to a song with somebody in front of 1337 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: me out of your mind. So, as an artist, I 1338 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 1: go and sit with a publisher and a songwriter and 1339 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: they play me their song that they poured their heart into, 1340 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: and I have to say face to face to them, 1341 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not for me. Should I say 1342 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: that to you record? You know what? Just not for me? 1343 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's great, but it's just not for me. 1344 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 1: Like the old stuff, you would kill me. It's really 1345 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: that hard. That's your job to do that. It's hard 1346 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: to do. I hate. I hate to make people sad. Yeah, 1347 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 1: me too, So let me just say already I love 1348 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: every song you're you've made and are gonna make. Thank you, alright, 1349 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: what episode one sixty four. We'll see you guys next time. 1350 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: Stay silver Bird,