WEBVTT - Maggie Lindemann 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:04.680 Hello everyone, and welcome the inside the studio on iHeart Radio. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.240 My name is Jordan runt Hog, But enough about me. 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.680 My guest today hails from the great state of Texas. 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:22.319 She first exploded on streaming platforms with dancy anthems like 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.160 pretty Girl and Obsessed, but her new EP is something 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.280 very different, called Paranoia. It's dark and twisted, brimming with 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.440 intensity and anxiety, and I mean that in the best way. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.440 She's traded the electro pop of prior work for fuzzed 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:38.600 out electric guitar and heavy drums, which matched the gritty 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.680 mood of tracks like Knife under My Pillow, Scissor Hands, 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.960 and Loner. She's a horror movie fan in case you 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.440 haven't guessed, but the songs also come from a deeply 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.480 personal place. She says that the tracks are more authentically 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.560 her than anything she's released to date. With Paranoia, she's 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:54.960 revealed her true self as one of the most exciting 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.440 alternative artists out there. I'm so happy to welcome Maggie Lindeman. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.680 Thank you, thanks so much of taking the time. I 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.480 really appreciate it. Yeah, of course, no, thank you. Before 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.240 we start, I gotta ask, how are you gotta do 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:09.119 the quarantine chicken feeling good, happy, healthy. Yeah, I'm doing good. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:13.080 I'm I'm definitely very over quarantine, but I'm doing good. 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.920 I'm good. You recently released your first DP, Paranoia as 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.560 a high strung guy who just lived through. This title 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.000 resonates with me immensely. I wanted to know what does 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.240 it mean for you? Where did that title come from? Um? 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:28.000 So I started writing this cpnto those nineteen and in 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.120 two thousand eighteen two nineteen, I lived in this house 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.160 and I was always so paranoid. I don't know why. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.679 I just like in big spaces where there's a lot 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.560 of rooms or just like a lot of spaces, I 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:42.440 get really paranoid, and like Knife under my pillows obviously 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.080 about like my paranoia that I was feeling at the time. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:46.480 And I don't know, I just felt like it was 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.480 like a really recurring theme in my life. So, um, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.400 I actually had a different title at first, and I 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.760 just never felt like it was correct. Um. And then 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.680 after writing knife, when I heard the word paranoia, I 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.120 was like, yeah, that's perfect it. I mean, I also 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.280 read your big horror movie fans, so may maybe the 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.240 way maybe that probably doesn't help. Yeah, No, it definitely 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.520 doesn't help. In one interview, you summed up the sound 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.200 of the EP as in three words, pop, rock, and crazy, 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.280 which I love all of that. I was wondering if 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.680 you could elaborate more on on the sounds. Yeah, I 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.320 mean it's like, I don't know, it's like alternative rock, 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.359 but it's also pop and um, I don't know, it's 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.480 just like crazy because I don't know. It's like nothing 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.959 I've done before, and it's just super different and I 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.680 don't know. It's like the lyrics are really some of 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.600 the lyrics are like sad or you know, darker, but 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.840 then the sound around it is like exciting and fun 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.360 and upbeat. So it's cool because it's like even the 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.080 sad songs aren't like sad songs. Yeah, I was gonna 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:47.799 ask you. The sound is so different from some of 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:49.840 the more dance pop stuff from a few years back, 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.560 like Pretty Girl and Obsessed. Like what made you sort 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.120 of decide to switch it up and go down this 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.480 root was sort of the heavier drums and electric guitars 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.400 and stuff like that. Well, when I first started making music, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.720 well when i've very first started making music, I was 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.880 making like alternative pop music and I wanted to go 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.080 in an even more alternative lane with my music. But 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.200 you know, being so young in an industry and not 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.120 really knowing anything about yourself yet or like who you are, 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.040 like what you want to do, and only knowing you 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.960 want to make music. You know, when someone's like, no, 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.520 you should do this, you're kind of just like, okay, cool, 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.800 Like I'm down. Um. So I was kind of just 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.600 down to do it. And I felt like at the 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:30.600 time it was fun, but it very quickly got to 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.920 a point where I just wasn't enjoying singing the songs, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.320 and I just wasn't enjoying like performing, and it just 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.360 always felt like there was like a disconnect between me 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.720 and my music. So I grew up listening to rock 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.600 and pop punk, and my whole family is a rock family, 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.320 and I don't know, there's just something about rock music 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.600 that is just so different for me and listening and 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.080 performing now, it's just there's just like a clear nine 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.000 and day difference of how I feel now the music 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.200 I'm making. Do you feel that women entering the USIC 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.640 industry sort of automatically get shoved in the more of 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.640 a pop laying off the bat, It's like it's almost 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.480 a given, which I always found really strange. I mean, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.040 was it sort of hard to be like, no, I 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.520 want to rock, I want to scream, like the track Gaslight, 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.280 for example, which has those those screams you or was 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.000 that because I know it's a collaboration with Sick Brain. 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.560 Those are sick that Sick Brain. Oh my god, that's 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.800 an amazing song. I mean, just the passion in it 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.120 is so great. Tell me more about that song. It's 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:25.880 a kiss off song, it's a breakup song. Tell me 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.360 more about that track. So Man, Sick Brain are best 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.279 friends in real life. So I one day it was 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.920 just like, dude, like I love your music. I've always 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.600 wanted to scream on a song, but like I don't 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.080 know if I ever want to scream, or like if 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.719 I'm ready to do that at least. So I was 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.320 just like, do you want to make a song? And 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.040 she was like, dude, yeah, let's do it. And so 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.400 we went to the studio and like finished the song 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.520 in like two hours. It was really quick. I don't know, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.800 she's just really talented, and just because we know each 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.560 other so well in real life, I felt like it 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.160 was just like a very natural thing too. Is that 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.440 normal for you to work that quick? Not always I 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.119 feel like lately actually though, Yeah, like I've been working 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:07.120 really quickly. Um, but other songs like Different took like 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.479 two days to finish, which is like, I think, the 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.120 longest one, but still pretty fast. Yeah it is. I 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.080 mean Different took like two writing days to finish, and 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.360 then like Scissor Hands took like so many days because 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.760 we just kept switching it up so many times. But 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.479 I think, like, in general, yeah, I feel like I 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.960 do write songs pretty fast. I don't know. I feel 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.720 like the teams I work with are always just like 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.039 they know me so well, so we just usually get 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:31.960 stuffed done really quick. I want to ask you about 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.720 Scissor Hands, I mean just classic movie. I want to know, 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.039 do you relate to that character, this guy taken from 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.359 his home and dropped into this like e really perfect 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.599 place for In my mind, I thought about you leaving 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.800 Texas for for l a like maybe I'm reading too 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.120 much into it, but no, Yeah, I love the story 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.480 behind the movie and I always felt like I related 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.160 to him, just like doing everything for someone that you 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.640 love and then it kind of like sucks you over 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.480 and you like are in this place that you don't 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.279 even want to be. We're kind of like take again 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.440 from and You're like, now you're here, so you've got 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.040 to make the best of it kind of thing. I 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.279 don't know. I always felt like I kind of related 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.160 to him in a lot of ways. And I also 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.839 just like love that movie, and I love aesthetics and everything, 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.360 and I just love the movie. So it's like kind 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.160 of a theme on the album to me was Scissor Hands. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:16.919 You also a Loner, which is a song that has 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.599 a message. I feel like we've been hearing a lot 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.719 in the past year with Quarantine and Lockdown with the 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.920 whole like it's okay to not be okay right now, 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.360 you can you can live with those feelings for a moment. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:26.960 I want to ask you more about about where that 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.919 song came from for you. Yeah, so I actually wrote 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.839 that song before Quarantine, And it's funny because now it 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.000 makes even more sense. But I actually wrote that song 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.200 like I think December of Seals in nineteen and I 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.760 don't know, I was just feeling I get really bad 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.400 seasonal depression, and I was just feeling really really lonely 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.679 and like, even though I have so many people around 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.520 me that loved me. I was still feeling this like loneliness, 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:53.480 so I don't know, I wanted to turn it into 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.640 something that wasn't so negative and more of just like 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.080 this positive thing of yeah, I'm a loner, but I 0:06:58.120 --> 0:06:59.680 like it that way. Like I don't know, I feel 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.520 like if you're a loner and you can be by 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.520 yourself and like spend time by yourself, that's actually really 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.479 cool because a lot of people can't spend time with themselves. 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.160 So I know, I just wanted to make it a 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:20.680 positive What do you get out of songwriting? Is it 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.840 therapeutic for you? How does it How does it make 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.680 you feel better? I'm always curious about pople who are 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.800 sort of blessed with the ability to write, like what 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.240 what it does for them? Yeah, it's really therapeutic. I 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:34.360 definitely get like relief out of out of sessions. And 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.800 also it's cool because it's like it's like therapy, but 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.800 then you get something cool out of it, and then 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.280 you get to live with it until you're no longer 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.080 like feeling that feeling, which is really cool. But yeah, 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.640 it always makes me feel better when I'm having bad days, 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.840 just to like get it out have you been feeling 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.880 in in Lockdown if you've been feeling creative. Yeah, So 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.440 in the beginning of Lockdown, I was like really not creative, 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.760 Like I really wasn't feeling it, because in the beginning 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.640 I kind of was like, oh, it's not gonna last. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.760 Like I know, everyone was kind of like, oh, this 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.720 is just going to you know, be like a couple 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.239 of weeks and then we're going to get back to normal. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.880 So I was kind of on that wave too, And 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.360 in the first couple of weeks, I was just kind 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.080 of vibing because I was like, cool, this is like 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.560 a break and I just get to like stay at 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.640 home with my boyfriend like watch movies all the time, 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.520 which was really cool at first. But then I realized 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.239 very quickly that it was gonna last and that I'm 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.480 really bored and like I needed to do something. So 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.160 I think like later on I started getting inspired again, 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.480 and now I'm still like I'm still in the wave 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.200 of it being inspired. So I've been just making so 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.560 much music and Quarantine, Oh that is great too. That 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:38.839 was always going to ask you too, Are you more 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.120 inspired by looking inward at yourself and your emotions or 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.280 looking outward and more observational or both or a mix 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.800 of both. Definitely looking inward. I write everything about stuff 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.080 that's going on with me. Sometimes I'll try to write 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.280 stuff that's like I always ask like when I don't 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.280 have something to talk about it into session, I'll be like, oh, 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.719 what do you guys going through right now? But I 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.760 don't know. I always feel like writing about myself. It's 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.520 just more I don't know, I feel like more of 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.160 a connection. Obviously. What is your your recording process been 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.440 like in the last year or so in Lockdown, has 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.360 been a home studio set up or like a Zoom 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.480 situation or Yeah, So at the beginning of Quarantine, I 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.440 had my home studio set up, so I was like 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.240 recording everything and then sending it. But then I would 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.880 start to like I was, I'm still doing Zoom sessions, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.680 like I've only been really doing Zoom sessions. But then 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.040 like I have my one producer, like I'll go to 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.000 and record something with him if we want to get it, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.400 like you know, crisp and something good but it's not 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.000 your fault and crash and burn where songs I did 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.880 on Zoom sessions, And then I went in and recorded them, 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.840 but it's kind of different with everyone like obviously like 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:44.199 still respecting COVID and people. It's like, you know, boundaries 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.560 and everything with everything going on. And on the CP 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.360 you started co producing I think Different, the track Different 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.200 you co produced. How how's that experience been for you 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.720 having more more control over over the sound and just 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.280 in all of that, it was cool. I was really 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.680 involved in the production process of this EP because I 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.800 was so obviously coming from like pop music. I really 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.520 wanted to make it perfect and like make sense, and 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.319 I don't know, I just had so many influences that 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.599 I wanted to bring in, so it's different. Different was 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.559 actually the first song we made on the EP, and 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.280 I don't know, I was just like so on top 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.839 of that production because that was like the first song, 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.680 so that was going to set the tone for everything 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.000 else that I was doing. So me and Cody just 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.200 worked on that production for like so long, and he 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.440 just helped me and taught me like certain words and 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.720 like what to do, and yeah, he's really helpful. And 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.960 that's track was written if I'm wrong, like after a 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:40.040 pretty freaky experience when you were in Malaysia during a 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.520 concert and the concert was like shut down midway through. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.920 How much of that experience was played a role in 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.240 the creation of Yeah, definitely when I when I got back, 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.839 like I was just really experiencing a lot of emotions 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.520 and feelings and so different was the first song I wrote. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.640 And I wrote it like a week after I got back, 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.880 I think, And I don't know it was it was 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:01.560 just is really helpful for me to like get in 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.680 the studio and release everything I was feeling and talk 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.160 about it with people that, like, you know, we're helping 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.559 me and just like helping me also be creative, because 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.840 they really did stump me for a while, so it 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.200 was cool to get back in and do that. What 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:16.959 do you like to do when you're not making music 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.360 to stay to stay grounded in this last year thanks 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.640 to watch or yoga or meditation or what's your favorite 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.240 way to onlines when it's not music. I've been playing 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.520 a lot of video games lately, Like I always played 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.199 video games, but over Quarantine, I've definitely been playing more, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.640 Like I got a monitor and everything, So video games 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.839 for sure, What are you playing? I play Call of 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.720 Duty and then I play like Yes, and then I 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.520 play games like Stranded Deep and like weird games like 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.959 survival games. Oh my god, that's so funny. I just 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.959 got into my old and sixty four that I haven't 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.400 played in you know what, fifteen years or something like that, 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.839 which is like doing like well Mario Karts. It's funny 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.840 the things that we like grab onto in times of stress, 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.040 like which is this year is undoubtedly band. I mean, 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.439 I've been listening to music I haven't listened to since 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.800 high nineties and stuff. Yeah, what have you been listening to? 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.680 I've been listening to so much I feel like, Yeah, 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.760 I definitely got back into a lot of music that 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.120 I forgot about, like songs I just completely forgot about. 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.640 And also I've been listening to like new people to 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.319 like war Orgasm. I found over Quarantine and I love 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.480 war Orgasm like they're so sick. Don't listen to a 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:26.920 lot of them. I want to ask you more about 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.319 horror movies, like are you like what are some of 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.280 your favorites of those? Um, I wish I love like 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.640 early two thousand's horror movies like I know what you 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:38.280 did last summer, But I also love like I don't 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.240 know why, but I'm this is probably like why I'm paranoid. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:46.040 But I'm really into like gory horror movies because I 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.240 feel like sometimes just scary like pop ups and stuff 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.520 don't scare me. Like I need to watch like Green 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.560 infer Now and like that's and like then I'll be scared. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.000 You know, did you ever watch a Stir of Echoes? 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.360 It's like kind of a weird I don't think so. 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:01.840 I think it's from like it's like a late nineties, 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.640 like in that era, like late nineties, earliest two thousand's 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.240 golden era of horror movie stuff. I think it was 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.320 with Kevin Bacon. I remember seeing it. I haven't seen 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:10.800 it a long time, but I remember seeing it as 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:12.600 a kid. And then I get in high school and 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.360 it scared me just as much when I was in 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.440 high school as it did when I was a little kid. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.800 It was like truly terrifying. I need to watch it. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.240 I recommend it. I have a goofy question for you, 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.800 what is a paranoia that you have that you can 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.200 laugh at? Like for me? For whatever reason, I have 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.720 no idea why I am petrified of dead fish like fish, 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.640 I'm fine with dead fish for some reason, like absolutely 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.000 terrified of dead fish. I was wondering what what you're 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.599 sort of funny fear is. I'm absolutely terrified at the 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.120 ocean in general. So I feel you. But what is 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.920 something I'm weirdly paranoid about. I don't know. I'm like always, 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.760 I mean, this is like a rational fear, but I'm 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.800 always scared there's like someone in my car. I like 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.839 when I'm driving, like I'll always check in my back 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.120 before I even get in the car, Like as i'm 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.160 getting in, like I'll just peek in there. But like 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.520 while I'm driving, I like like I'll like throw my 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.400 arm back there and just like make sure no one's 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.839 back there, even though I've already checked, like where they 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.320 going to come from, you know, But I always do that. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.520 I don't know why. I totally feel that. I got 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.640 I've been living in New York for many, many, many 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.920 years since college, and I just now, in the past 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:17.720 couple of months, got my first car, and so I'm 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.440 just I'm not used to parking a car on the street, 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:22.840 used to it, and so every time I get in, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.320 I'm like, you know, I feel the same way. I 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.800 totally feel. Yeah, I do, like the car sweep might 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:39.000 make sure no one's in there. You've been obviously keeping 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.720 incredibly busy during quarantine me not only making music, but 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.800 you also started a podcast. I wanted to ask you 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.360 more about about that and how that's going. It's good. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.520 I love doing it just because I like to talk, 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.120 Like if it's not me talking to myself, like I 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.200 just face time people and I like need to talk 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:58.200 to someone. Just have so much energy. So it's cool 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.920 because with the podcast, like I'm just talking and then 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.720 like people will listen. So it's been really cool. I 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.840 need to people always tell me, like I need to 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.320 be more on it because I just get so sidetracked. 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.320 But I just made a new one and I'm going 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:14.200 to do like a series about my EP so that'll 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.520 be really cool. That's coming up at some point. Keep 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:17.960 an ear up for that. I've also read the ear 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.880 in the midst of working on an LP. What's What's 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.560 were you in the process with that? Um, I don't 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.160 I'm just I don't know. I'm just like I already 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.320 started it, but we're just kind of in the beginning 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.040 processes of it. But yeah, I don't know. It's just 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.480 something that I really want to do. I don't know, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.000 I don't want to get into it. How do you 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.760 feel that you've changed as an artist and a creative 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:45.760 since since since starting your music career in I don't know, 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.280 I felt really different obviously, Like I'm older. That was crazy, 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.040 that was how many years ago? Like six years ago 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.000 at this point. So I started when I was sixteen 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.240 and I'm twenty two now, and I don't know, I 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.440 just feel like as an artist and just like as 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.480 a person, I've just grown so much, and there's so 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:05.160 many things that I've learned and experienced and and like 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.640 my artistry and just who I am as a person. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.600 I feel like there's just such a dramatic change, like 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.760 a positive change. But I don't know, I feel like 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.640 everything is just better now for me, Like I'm way 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.000 more confident in what I'm doing, and like I love 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.680 the music I'm making and I'm excited about it, and like, 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.240 I don't know, I'm like genuinely happy doing it now. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.840 So it's cool. What else does one look like for you? 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.440 What can fans look forward to? Well, I hope that 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.160 we're able to tour again, but I mean, obviously I 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.560 don't that's not you know, we don't know, but I 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.560 really want to tour. I really want to do like 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.240 live shows, even if that's like over a live stream. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.440 I really want to do some more stuff with slicks, 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.720 like some more drops um, which I'm going to do, 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.240 but I don't know. I want to do some giveaway stuff. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.040 I want to just do some stuff that I can 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.960 interact with fans more. It's so hard right now because 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.280 we can't go anywhere, but I really want to do 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.880 more stuffs. Was gonna say, what is filling that space 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.880 that that touring had? You mean, how are you you 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.600 Staying in touch with fans is mostly live streams and 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.199 through social media for you, Yeah, through social media, and 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.480 then I'm like streaming on Twitch now, so like I 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.120 get to talk to people on there because I hate 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.880 streaming on Instagram live, so I do it on Twitch. 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.480 I don't know, just like keeping up on my Instagram 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.560 and like interacting with people and doing it that way, 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.720 which is it's so cool. But touring is just like 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.320 a different experience. Hopefully get you back out there soon, Mike. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.720 My last question has been my last question for everybody 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.159 I've talked to in the last year, and it's been 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.639 really interesting to hear everybody's very different answers. If you 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.399 can snap your fingers and if everything go back to normal, 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.679 whatever your definition of normal is, say this time in 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.399 what would be the first thing that you would do? 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.000 Either places you'd go to, eat people, you'd hug, trips, 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:44.280 you'd take. What would be the first thing that you 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.520 would do? Um, I would definitely go to a club, 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.959 like a packed club, disgusting club. And then after that 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.000 club or before that club, I would go to a 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:57.240 concert in the pit and be next to sweaty people. 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.520 And I just want to be around people, and I 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:01.919 want to be at concerts and I just want to 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.679 be out. So about it. I'm such like social, like 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.280 I love to be out. So quarantine is definitely like 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.000 getting to me. I gotta ask, you're at the club, 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.160 what song comes on? What are you dancing too? Oh 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.160 my god? The club I used to go to, they're 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.040 always playing like some throwback music. I know they will 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:25.160 always play like open Oh yeah, honestly anything. I'll dance 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.640