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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are not one of

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Speaker 1: the nine organizations trying to hire John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I.

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Speaker 1: Am Greg Rosenthal, and I'm here in the Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: podcast studio with my friend Patrick Clayvon and joining us

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Speaker 1: from the UK, lovely Manchester, our friend Ollie Connelly. It's

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Speaker 1: not Saturday, but this is the wild Card preview and

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Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect time for the Sikos to

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Speaker 1: come out. I'm looking forward to this one. Is this

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Speaker 1: the best weekend of the year for the NFL? Ali,

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Speaker 1: Howard you rank them?

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Speaker 3: I would range this first this season. I traditionally agree

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Speaker 3: the Divisional round is the best weekend. I think this season,

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Speaker 3: with the matchups we have, it's a ridiculously loaded slate

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Speaker 3: with how we even all the teams are, so I

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Speaker 3: think this year this is the best week of football.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that because this is a unique season

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Speaker 1: in which I can see any of the AFC teams

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Speaker 1: making the Super Bowl except for the Steelers, and I

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Speaker 1: can see any teams in the playoffs winning the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl except who would you cross off?

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Speaker 4: Would make me say it? Greg? See what's taking place here?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: I Well, it's an interesting because someone asked me, like,

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Speaker 1: who's your I haven't really thought about like who you're

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Speaker 1: going to pick to win the super Bowl. But the

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Speaker 1: only teams that would really surprise me winning the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl would be Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I die through that.

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Speaker 1: Carolina, certainly, I'd throw in Chicago and San Francisco and

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Speaker 1: even Green Bay I guess would surprise me in the

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Speaker 1: end because the NFC is a little deeper. But that

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Speaker 1: means that there's nine teams right now that wouldn't really

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Speaker 5: If they want to see, yeah, it would be the

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Speaker 5: two incredible Cinderella runs and everybody else.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's a super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 5: But they won't like make a movie in forty years

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Speaker 5: about like like they would the Steelers of the Panther.

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Speaker 2: And the Division Round is great.

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Speaker 1: I think I still would go with Week one, as

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Speaker 1: always to me, is always like the most exciting because

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just an explosion and you have and

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Speaker 1: you have so much ahead of you. But right now

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Speaker 1: we're going to go through each one of these games.

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Speaker 1: We're going to start in the NFC, and we'll start

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Speaker 1: with the biggest point spread. I guess the one game

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Speaker 1: where it seems like it might not be that great

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Speaker 5: At the time of this conversation we're having across most

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Speaker 5: of the planet thanks to Oli.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to the folks in Manchester, the.

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Speaker 5: Los Angeles Rams traveling back to the Bank of America Stadium.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why I said the Bank of America

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Speaker 5: Stadium ten and a half point favorites. At the time

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Speaker 5: we're having this conversation. At the Carolina Panthers the over

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Speaker 5: unders forty six and a half. Joe Davison g rag

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Speaker 5: is back in Carolina for this one. Greg Vegas not

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Speaker 5: necessarily feeling like the Panthers have a chance, you said

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Speaker 4: Do you feel like they have a chance? It's ten

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Speaker 4: and a half in the right spot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is.

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Speaker 1: And going back and looking at that game where you

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Speaker 1: know the Panthers just beat them not that long ago,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a recurring theme on this show.

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Speaker 1: You would think that would give you more confidence that

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Speaker 1: they could do it again. But that's a three turnover

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Speaker 1: game for Matthew Stafford, And it was also in terms

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Speaker 1: start ali that the Rams guards dominated in this game,

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Speaker 1: and so we don't know if Kevin Dotson is going

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Speaker 1: but they're a bottom ten run defense in general, and

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Speaker 1: because I can't imagine them stopping them on the ground

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in that game, the Rams hit before the line

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Speaker 3: of scrimmage rate was full percent. The league averages the done,

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Speaker 3: so that is how pull thes defense was in that game.

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Speaker 3: That game was one k anyway with the bad weather,

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Speaker 3: get that amalgamation again. I do think it kind of

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Speaker 3: as long as possible and see if you can play

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Speaker 3: some second reaction football. I thought they are really good

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Speaker 3: it's not really being where he's been at his best

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Speaker 3: this season. So the longer Bryce is holding the ball,

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Speaker 3: I think, the more trouble the Panthers get him. But

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Speaker 3: he was absolute money. I must have a situation in

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Speaker 3: the first matchup, so I think it's one of those

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking at this from a different point of view

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Speaker 5: only because when I see Bryce being able to get

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Speaker 5: the confidence because that means they didn't force the ball

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Speaker 5: it's safety Bryce. It is run on first down, short

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Speaker 5: you go, kid, figure it. I think that's the rough

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Speaker 5: on third down, it's getting a fourth down as well.

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Speaker 5: I think I need in this game where it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be an upset anywhere, you're gonna have to hope the

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Speaker 5: defense makes turnovers.

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Speaker 4: Be aggressive, Yeah on fourth down?

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Speaker 5: Why don't we call those fourth down plays on first

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Speaker 5: and second down a couple times?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing about Bryce.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like he's a very hard guy to

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Speaker 1: Then again, in the first game, they did move the

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Speaker 1: The Panthers offensive line pass protecting is solid, but I

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Speaker 2: A lot of that is just getting rid of the ball.

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Speaker 1: But I do find with the Rams pass Rush like

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Speaker 1: they're great individually Kobe Turner and Jared Vers and certainly

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Speaker 1: me a little wanting, like, if you're going to be great,

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Speaker 1: here we are, we're arriving to the playoffs as a group,

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Speaker 1: Like I just want to see them at their very best,

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Speaker 3: I think you're right with that. They're all of like

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Speaker 3: a second search power space groups. But it's walking back

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Speaker 3: you'll get week two weeks where some guys can just

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Speaker 3: match of for the PANDASIC. I do agree with Patrick

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Speaker 3: on how Bryce should be used. It's whether Dave Canals

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, they are completely at their best when

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Speaker 3: they go empty. It's all in Bryce's hands and he

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Speaker 3: the field. That's always where he's been productive from college

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Speaker 3: data since he's been the league, the most efficient explosive

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Speaker 3: empty set. They have often gone away from that when

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Speaker 3: it's a cringe time game against good teams. And I

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Speaker 3: think we'll know where in the first two drives where

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Speaker 3: if they tried to hide Bryce Hung, I think that's

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Speaker 3: when they will get themselves in trouble. They just got

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Speaker 3: bet on Bryce, let's bet on turnovers, and if we

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Speaker 3: get you know, wiped by thirty we get wiped by thirty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that those are the options.

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Speaker 5: What it feels like, it's either they get absolutely run

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Speaker 5: and being aggressive, or they can try to slow the game.

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Speaker 4: The game's already going to be slow.

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Speaker 5: They're not a generationally bad run defense like they were

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Speaker 5: a season ago. They're still giving up four for almost

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Speaker 5: four and a half yards per carry. Yeah, and we

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Speaker 5: saw the way that the Buccaneers were able to play

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Speaker 5: the second half in that game, where it's like Baker

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Speaker 5: success for Carolina gets so thin because like the number

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Speaker 2: Right, they take it off the field. It's also just

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Speaker 2: because they can't run the ball.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to stop talking about their running game

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Speaker 1: just it really, I think is a problem for them

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Speaker 1: feel good that their entire point of this team build,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line has and their running backs have really

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Speaker 1: let them down. That they are bottom two in success

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Speaker 1: rate in EPA for place since Week ten. This is

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Speaker 1: not a small sample size, it's half the season, and

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Speaker 1: that is the way I think that you want to

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Speaker 1: beat the Rams. I think flipping to the Rams in

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Speaker 1: terms of their offense, you probably get Terrence Ferguson back

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Speaker 1: this week. Maybe that's not the hugest deal in the world,

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Speaker 1: but you do get DeVante Adams.

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Speaker 2: Back this week.

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Speaker 1: You're beloved ally who with all three tight ends that

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Speaker 1: they that they like to use, we actually haven't seen

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Speaker 2: It's very athletic.

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Speaker 1: I think Higby has made a difference returning to their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the last thing I have in the rams

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Speaker 5: All right, Gotta play the play your best football when

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Speaker 4: You know, unless the Panthers try extra hard.

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Speaker 5: On Saturday, Ali, we get an opportunity to watch on

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Speaker 3: It's really really difficult to say, and that's a cop out.

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Speaker 3: The first game was so strange, The second game was

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Speaker 1: I agree that Weather's two. I think this one and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was.

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Speaker 1: It was the highest splitz rate that that Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Bears, I don't know what to

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't score in the first three quarters

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Speaker 4: But we've seen the sustained success in the past.

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Speaker 5: Any rature of Greg Rosenthal in a great game there.

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Speaker 3: Has to be Colston Loveland? And I think DJ mod

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Speaker 4: way they go.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen Jordan Love since that game either, since

441
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Speaker 1: he took that. It is really weird to play three

442
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Speaker 1: times in five weeks.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is, right.

444
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Speaker 1: It was fourteen week fourteen sixteen, and I guess nineteen,

445
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Speaker 1: So three times in six weeks.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is. Yeah, it spread it out a little.

447
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Speaker 2: It's just a very.

448
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Speaker 1: Strange way, and it's probably annoying for the coaches to happen.

449
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Speaker 1: But the consistent part of these two games, more than

450
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Speaker 1: anything Patrick is is like the Bears defense given up yards,

451
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Speaker 1: like they're not getting stops. And if you even just

452
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Speaker 1: look late in the season, and that's including the Bears

453
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Speaker 1: game the Packers game, they've given up four hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty eight yards per game the last three weeks, whether

455
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Speaker 1: it's you know, the Lions or whether it's the Packers

456
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Speaker 1: here and look, I'm excited. I kind of wanted Jordan

457
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Speaker 1: Love on QB Island, but he didn't make it. He

458
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 1: got booted off at the last second. I didn't really

459
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,679
Speaker 1: I didn't stand up for it, so I own it.

460
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Speaker 1: That was my decision. I ultimately like he wasn't there

461
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Speaker 1: the last few weeks of the season, and Caleb Williams

462
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Speaker 1: had some great moments. But as a Jordan Love fan

463
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Speaker 1: and thinking about like the experience that he has and

464
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Speaker 1: getting Zach Tom back and you mentioned the health, like

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Speaker 1: it is exciting to think of about him versus this

466
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Speaker 1: defense because he has some of the most dramatic pressure

467
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Speaker 1: non pressure splits in the NFL. And his his splits

468
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Speaker 1: wall pressured aren't terrible, it's like they're like average. But

469
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Speaker 1: when he's not pressured, he's it's him and Drake May

470
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Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford like he's the like, he's right there

471
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Speaker 1: with the two MVP guys, and so if you can

472
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Speaker 1: protect him, which you know usually you can against the Bears,

473
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Speaker 1: you're in you have good standing.

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Speaker 5: And another reason that's a great matchup because Jordan is

475
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Speaker 5: a chance taker. He will take these chances against the

476
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Speaker 5: defense that relies on them. But can they can they

477
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Speaker 5: do so in a way that facilitates a pass rush

478
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Speaker 5: that's not going to have Christian Watson running free in

479
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Speaker 5: the secondary of no CJGJ. It's I think I think

480
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Speaker 5: there could be a capacity score fest here.

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Speaker 4: I like it. This is an exciting game.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling I'm leaning Packers a little bit. I know,

483
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Speaker 1: you know you're a fan of Love. He's coming off

484
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Speaker 1: the concussion, so that's a little tricky that you know,

485
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Speaker 1: he isn't in the flow of the offense right now.

486
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Speaker 1: But I think it was a huge advantage for them

487
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Speaker 1: to rest in Week eighteen. The Bears didn't, and I

488
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Speaker 1: just think that that could benefit the Bears a lot.

489
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Speaker 1: Lafleur is, according to some people, maybe coaching for his job.

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Speaker 1: I don't really buy that, But what do you think

491
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Speaker 1: he's gonna look at with Dennis Allen in this defense

492
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Speaker 1: and try to attack.

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Speaker 3: Probably all those crazy pressure totals that you've been talking

494
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Speaker 3: about for weeks now that they just send a maniacal

495
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Speaker 3: amount of pressure, but they don't get home with it.

496
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Speaker 3: Only saving grace for the best passage I would say

497
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Speaker 3: is their fourth quarter rate really spikes up, which in

498
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Speaker 3: postseason games when it's tight and it's one score and

499
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Speaker 3: we've seen them have this come back after comeback, that

500
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Speaker 3: is a massive difference make When you get down the stretch,

501
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 3: you can go find teams have solid format pressure rate

502
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Speaker 3: figures throughout the season. I think to cross the championship threshold,

503
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Speaker 3: you have to check the fourth quarter past first rate.

504
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Speaker 3: Two is how deep does the bench go, how does

505
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Speaker 3: the staff have just in the fly that is the

506
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Speaker 3: one thing they have in their favor. But with the

507
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Speaker 3: amount of blitzer is they're sending in Jordan Love's ability

508
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Speaker 3: against the blitz and him being a hoop like Patrick said,

509
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Speaker 3: He's just gonna let the thing fly, and you kind

510
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Speaker 3: of think, get yourself in just kind of like three

511
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Speaker 3: er full high variance throws. Who's gonna come down with that?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna probably bank on Jorden Love to win that match.

513
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Speaker 1: It is a fun matchup with those guys in the

514
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Speaker 1: secondary though, because you know it's they have a like

515
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Speaker 1: they they are big personalities, including Jaunc Gardner Johnson, but

516
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Speaker 1: just they have it like frisky playing personalities for lack

517
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: of a better word, like Nasehn Wright and Tyreek Stevenson

518
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Speaker 1: and Jalen Johnson who's maybe not been like full Jalen

519
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Speaker 1: Johnson since the return. Like I kinda if they're gonna win,

520
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be back to front and

521
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Speaker 1: maybe Kyler Gordon ends up being a huge X factor.

522
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Speaker 1: I mean, if he's fully healthy, he's the best player

523
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Speaker 1: in that secondary, and you could see those playmakers being

524
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Speaker 1: a big difference in this matchup and ultimately being able

525
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Speaker 1: to cover what the Packers and what Lafleair throws at them.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and as much as correct, Kyler Gooden is probably

527
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Speaker 3: the best individual litzer in the league. So if you're

528
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Speaker 3: looking for what can decide a one possession game, is

529
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Speaker 3: it going to be a strip sack fummal? Is it

530
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Speaker 3: gonna be Jordan Love thinking I can go win a

531
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Speaker 3: championship on one throw and Kyla Golden comes screaming into

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Speaker 3: the backfield. If I close my eyes and think about

533
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Speaker 3: how did the Bess win the game, that's probably more

534
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Speaker 3: of what I pitch than then just going like locked

535
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Speaker 3: down for two or three drives, just get off the field.

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Speaker 2: I do like to think like big picture too. It

537
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Speaker 2: would be it would be crazy annoying. If you're a

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Speaker 2: Bears fan.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna feel good about this season anyways,

540
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Speaker 1: but if your season ends on three straight l's and

541
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Speaker 1: one of them is to the Green Bay Packers, it's

542
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Speaker 1: not going to be as sweet, you know as it

543
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Speaker 1: felt three weeks ago when when they're in the one seed.

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Speaker 1: Let's actually listen to Ben Johnson kind of asked about

545
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Speaker 1: everything that's happened and changed for this organization, just.

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Speaker 7: Like I told those those guys after the game. You know,

547
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Speaker 7: we're mentally prepared to play for five more weeks, and

548
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Speaker 7: so that's our intent.

549
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Speaker 2: How do you do that?

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Speaker 7: You go out and you win the first one, and

551
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Speaker 7: so we're going to come in today and we're gonna

552
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 7: have a great day today, meetings, walk through, short week,

553
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 7: opponent that we know, and we're gonna get ready for

554
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 7: this one, and we're going to go and go all

555
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Speaker 7: out for this game, and we'll worry about the future

556
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 7: when when that time comes. But now it's not the

557
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Speaker 7: time to look back and reflect.

558
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Speaker 2: And I love that. I love the coaching matchup.

559
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Speaker 1: I do love that it's both teams are as healthy

560
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Speaker 1: as they've been maybe all season. The only one out

561
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Speaker 1: of practice right now is Gardner Johnson, Ozzi Drappila, who's

562
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: their left tackle, is practicing. Braxton Jones, who they could

563
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Speaker 1: decide he hasn't played almost all seasons since very early

564
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: they could decide to start him at left tackle. But Adunza,

565
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: Kylie Gordon, they're all there and that that's great news.

566
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Speaker 1: Like if the Packers lose, they'll be on what like

567
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Speaker 1: a four game losing streak to end the season for

568
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Speaker 1: four or five. There are real belief from smart people

569
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Speaker 1: who are tied in that this Lafleur Packers thing could

570
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Speaker 1: possibly come to an end. I tend to believe that,

571
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Speaker 1: like he's trying to get as much leverage, whether it's

572
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Speaker 1: money or whether it's power in the organization. And maybe

573
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Speaker 1: that's why we're hearing about these things because it would

574
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Speaker 1: be crazy for I mean, the crazy part of the

575
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Speaker 1: coaching cycle is there's a chance here that like the

576
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Speaker 1: Bills lose, that the Steelers lose, and that the Packers lose,

577
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Speaker 1: and that any one of those three head coaches who

578
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: are you know, great coaches could shake loose and the

579
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Speaker 1: Packers is the one that I don't believe. I feel

580
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Speaker 1: like it's some sort of posturing.

581
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

582
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there's the graph right on coach danger and

583
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 5: then the conversation related to coach danger, and the conclusion

584
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Speaker 5: of the contract is where those things from a sect

585
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Speaker 5: where there's a whole lot of conversation from people to

586
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Speaker 5: other people whose job is to provide, you know, whatever

587
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 5: side of one conversation is being had to another person.

588
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Speaker 5: Because this metal flore would like to be compensated better

589
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: probably than Recked seventeen in terms of coach compensation, and

590
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 5: the Green Bay Packers would probably like him to stay there.

591
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: That seems to be part of it, is that maybe

592
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: they're a little cheap with their coaches. Sometimes there are

593
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Speaker 1: also you know, some whispers about, like you know, with

594
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Speaker 1: the new president, that Guda Kunst is maybe kind of elevating,

595
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Speaker 1: and Lafleur doesn't want to be reporting to Gouda Kunts when.

596
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Speaker 4: They palace intrigue.

597
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, where they used to be separate.

598
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Speaker 3: I will say this though, Greg, it makes no sense

599
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: given how good is he authored.

600
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Speaker 2: I agree, That's what I'm saying.

601
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Speaker 3: Fifteen years covering the league, he authored the best offense

602
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Speaker 3: I've seen in my entire time. For him to not

603
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: already have like a five seven year contract extension, to

604
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: me is laughable. And I get there some game management stuff.

605
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: You can go find a dork out of Harvard to

606
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: help you with the game management. Still to do the

607
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: age over the course of your career building an offense

608
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: is really difficult. He navigated from one era from Rogers

609
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: to Jordan Love, was instrumental in the play development, and

610
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 3: yet Ed Palsy has come in there as the president

611
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Speaker 3: and it seems like he just wants to change the

612
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: pack away. They spend big in free agency, they draft

613
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: a wide, receive it to get the funfare on the

614
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: TV show during as the host and the draft. And

615
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: the fact that he has said publicly that I don't

616
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: like having a lame duck coach, but he won't sign

617
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: the Guide to a contract extension going into the final

618
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: year of his deal, make think there is a bit

619
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Speaker 3: more smoke and I will just point out, ever so kindly,

620
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: the agent of John Harball. His dad is the former

621
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: president of the Green Bay Packers. And we're talking about

622
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Speaker 3: who is this extra team who's been calling about Harbor

623
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: forty five minutes after he's fired, and who employs a

624
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 3: coach was sniffing around and taking a look. I'll just

625
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: connect some very you know, disparate dots.

626
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Speaker 5: I would have made a trade forty I know, sure, yeah,

627
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 5: good luck.

628
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: Honestly, I mean maybe Matt Leafleur would take that trade too,

629
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Speaker 1: and I'm I would think the Baltimore Rainers.

630
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: But so maybe you get your yeah, your best wishes.

631
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Speaker 1: The reason I, yeah, I don't buy it is it

632
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: just doesn't make any sense. I'm with you, Ali, that

633
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be really fun. That's on Saturday night. Let's

634
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: take a break and we'll wrap up the NFC with

635
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: a banger. The number one slot, this is the number

636
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Speaker 1: one draft pick, is the Sunday afternoon game, and so

637
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Speaker 1: forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Ers Eagles is apparently that game this year.

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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, Big Game Sunday Afternoon, Big playoffs

640
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Speaker 1: ahead for the man calling the game, Tom Brady, Oh.

641
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Speaker 2: You know I heard, I'm a big break.

642
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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Craig Horrelback, who I did

643
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: The Bringer Fantasy Football show, very talented as on the

644
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: mic as a producer over at the Ringer. But he's

645
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: still giving Tom Brady grief about, you know, the quality

646
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: of his broadcasting. I think he needs to update his

647
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: take because I think Tom Brady has improved a lot,

648
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Speaker 1: and I think he's going to prove it with this

649
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: playoff runt.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I agree, Greg Roseenbald, especially fresh off of the

651
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Speaker 5: game on Saturday night, the Sam Francisco forty nine ers

652
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 5: on the road at the Philadelphia Eagles, who are favored

653
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Speaker 5: by four and a half points. The over under is

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Speaker 5: forty four and a half. It is a rematch of

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Speaker 5: the NFC Championship game a couple of years ago. Brock

656
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Speaker 5: party tenrors his ucl he's practicing throwing left handed on

657
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Speaker 5: the sideline. Josh Johnson finishes the game. The Philadelphia Eagles

658
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 5: go to the Super Bowl, lose to the Chiefs, and

659
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 5: now it's time for revenge. Kevin Burkhart, the aforementioned Tom

660
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 5: Brady on the call, who wins the football game?

661
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Speaker 4: Correct?

662
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Speaker 2: I mean I'm going to Eagles.

663
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Speaker 1: Certainly, this you know, in the middle of the week,

664
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Speaker 1: we don't even know if Trent Williams is going to play.

665
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: That's massive. He did not practice on Wednesday.

666
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: Ricky Piersall did not either, which I think is a

667
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: significant injury. Pearsaw sounds less likely to play than Trent Williams,

668
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: but that was one of the biggest issues with the

669
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers last week against Seattle. The left side

670
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: of their offensive line now I forget who's the guard

671
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: Burford like the two of them. It was like you

672
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: hurt two positions by losing Trent Williams, because you go

673
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: from like a first ballot Hall of Famer to a

674
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: sub you know, below level starter at left tackle, and

675
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: then the left guard spot looks worse two And you

676
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: think about that matchup against Jalen Carter and against Jalen Phillips,

677
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: and it's great that they got them some rest last week,

678
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: and that just it feels like, no matter how you

679
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: look at this game, I just feel like it's gonna

680
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: take something special from Perdy.

681
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: I think he's capable.

682
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Speaker 1: Of doing something special, but without Trent Williams, it's gonna

683
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Speaker 1: be like another level of how special it would have

684
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Speaker 1: to be.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think not just special from Purty, but

686
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: special from Shannah and this one of those ones. Whay,

687
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Speaker 3: if he wins this thing, if Williams is out and

688
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: you go through Ayu, comboser and personal, you should just

689
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: give him a gold jacket walking off the field and

690
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: so you can with it through the rest of the playoffs,

691
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: because he's gonna have to scheme receivers open against that

692
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 3: secondary and washing out eligibles because he's got to try

693
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: and bail out for the fact that the lefts out

694
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: of his line is imploding on every other red. So

695
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: it just feels like too tall of a task for

696
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: as poor as the Eagles offense is, it's still I

697
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: think a slight advantage over the Niners defense. And then

698
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: it just becomes down whether it's becomes I think a

699
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 3: rock fight or a track me. If the Niners can

700
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: move the ball effectively, and I think al Hina can

701
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: do anything. But this is about as toll a task

702
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: as he will have had against that group with what

703
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: he's having to roll out there with, then I think

704
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: the Niners have a chance. If they can get to

705
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: even twenty eight points, they maybe have a chance. But

706
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: I still think that's a toll Adder with what's going

707
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: on with the injuries.

708
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the only chance is to take advantage

709
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 5: of the run game off tackle, where they haven't been

710
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 5: able to have that success here recently, because what Vic

711
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 5: Fangio and the Eagles can do where Cooper Degene has

712
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 5: been deployed right around that spot ten yards around the

713
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, just off the edge of the tackles,

714
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 5: where it's like, okay, well what's our what's our CMC plan?

715
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 5: You have to have a CMC plan so the forty

716
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 5: nine ers aren't getting four and a half yards every

717
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 5: single time brock Perty drops back. I think the Eagles

718
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 5: as well as oddly enough, the Seattle Seahawks are the

719
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: two team best position to do that, and the forty

720
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 5: nine Ers are having to play them in back to

721
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 5: back games, and then I don't think the pass rush

722
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 5: is going to be able to bother Jalen Hurts because

723
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 5: I don't think they can bother anything, right.

724
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: I just it it was an unfortunate way how it

725
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: had to end. They obviously had to play last week.

726
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: It was such a big game. I don't want to

727
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: like overreact to that Seahawks game, but it could be

728
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: possible that this team runs out of gas at the end.

729
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: That was their second straight short week against the Seahawks,

730
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: and so that won't be the case this time.

731
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: They'll have an extra day in theory of rest.

732
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: But having to play these two physical teams in back

733
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: to back weeks, that there is a recipe of just

734
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles bodying them on defense, which I think would

735
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: be scary. And it's it's as healthy as the Eagles

736
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: defense has really been all season long. So I'm sure

737
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio is ready to forget about putting Kyle Shanahan

738
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: with a gold jacket off the field. I don't know

739
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: if Vic has already earned it in your mind, Allie,

740
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: but like, let's get some core ordinators into the Hall

741
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: of Fame. Vic Fangio would be close to the top

742
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: of the list.

743
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, my own personal shrine of coordinators I

744
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: have at home. Vic has his own there. I think

745
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: Vickers are going to be fascating this game when he

746
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: plays Kyle Shannon and he blitzes a lot more than

747
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: he traditionally does. I think to wash the back out

748
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: of the equation. So if you just start running through

749
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: how are we going to prevent the fact we've lost

750
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: Trent Williams for the game, if he doesn't play, or

751
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: if he's limited in some way, if you're able to

752
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: wash Christian McCaffrey out because he has to stay in

753
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: to protect, or they're going to start messing around with

754
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: we'll keep a TI ten nimble, put an extra tackle

755
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: on the field, will chip that way, it just starts

756
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: becoming a nightmare. Who do actually throw the ball to?

757
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 3: And then with Purdy, I think he's been incredible since

758
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: his return. He's been a much better playmaker, I think

759
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: than he's been at any point during his career. He's

760
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: not taking sex in a way he hasn't done throughout

761
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: most of his career, but the turn of a rate

762
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: in the turn of a worthy player, rate has shot

763
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: up in a different way. And they just have to

764
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: play the cleanest of all games and hope you can

765
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: just rally to the ball and Jalen Hurts has brain

766
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: far after brain far, and they can tackle because the

767
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: Nights cannot tackle, and it is a pretty fortunate thing

768
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 3: for them. The way the Eagles offense design doesn't give

769
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: a lot of yack opportunities, but they have to be

770
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: able to finally tackle and hope that Jalen Huts brains

771
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: Faus the game away.

772
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did see a stat that from next Gen Stats,

773
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: I believe that the Eagles ran the second highest amount

774
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: of hitch routes, you know, just like coming back to

775
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: the ball of any team in the NGS era, it

776
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: was the it was the Justin Fields Bears. I think

777
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: we're a team that was on that list as number one. Yeah,

778
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannan's just look, you're gonna have to manage You're

779
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: gonna have to manage the game really well.

780
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: And I to.

781
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: Get just like big picture, I do think cut Rock

782
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: Perry could have a moment because he's not quite at

783
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: the at the like Herbert Drake may Stafford level right now,

784
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: but he's he's not far below it, where like you

785
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: could see him carrying the team in a way that

786
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: even he wasn't able to do a couple of years

787
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: ago when he nearly won the Super Bowl. We also

788
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: gotta wonder like if if playoff Jalen Hurts comes out,

789
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: that's that's the hope for all Eagles fans. Let's actually

790
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: listen to Nick sirian I kind of talk about how

791
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: this Eagles team finally got back to where they wanted

792
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: to be. They got a home game, they're in the playoffs,

793
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: and they can try to put all the drama of

794
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: the regular season behind them.

795
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 8: I mean, we were here in this spot because you

796
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 8: want to run it back, and you want to and

797
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 8: you want to play and compete again. That's part of

798
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 8: the reason why you're here. I mean, that's any game

799
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 8: I don't like. If I'm playing Sorry with my kids

800
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 8: and I win, I want to play again and go again.

801
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 8: So I don't let them win that often, but sometimes

802
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 8: I do. But but yeah, that's that. I think that's

803
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 8: just the competitive nature of and why. You know, there's

804
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 8: a reason that the people are in this building that

805
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 8: are in this building because they have that that hunger.

806
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they might be watching that press comfort and

807
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: then you know Dad is letting him win. There is

808
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: a world that what we were you going to say

809
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: about the Sorry.

810
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: Well, I was imagining because I'm sure people are going

811
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 5: to ask Jalen Hurts, the consummate competitor.

812
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of quotes, how he feels.

813
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 5: And I thought about before the show when I heard

814
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 5: that sound, how Jalen might and he would say, if

815
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 5: our children are allowed to win.

816
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: It's because we've already won.

817
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: He's already he's got he's got a quote for every situation,

818
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: and you know, he is the Jordan brand ambassador and

819
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: part of the myth if it if it even it's

820
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: not a myth. Part of the story of Jalen Hurts,

821
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: and I guess this Eagles team is that Jalen Hurts

822
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: has played his best, you know, in super Bowls. Not

823
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: maybe not always in the wildcard round for what it's worth,

824
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: but he has played his very best in the playoffs.

825
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: There is a world and I think it is the

826
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: perfect matchup for them, like this or the Bears would

827
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: have been perfect for them. There is a world where

828
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: they just show up in the playoffs and they're freaking

829
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: awesome because they have awesome players. And specifically, the way

830
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: that they could get back to just looking like a

831
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: team that's gonna go win the super Bowl is to

832
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: have some favorable matchups for the offense and get get

833
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: on a roll, start feeling a little more confident, and

834
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: realize like, oh yeah, we have aj Brown and DeVante's

835
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: and this is the perfect matchup. To possible do that

836
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: and put up thirty five points.

837
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 5: You would need to get that cohesion where everybody's on

838
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 5: the same page about how they're going to attack a team.

839
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 5: The thing that I'll remember about the twenty twenty four

840
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 5: Eagles is that moment in the Super Bowl where they

841
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 5: want to run the specific call. Jalen's waiting for it,

842
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: and Sirianni calls it, and they know that once they

843
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 5: execute it that they're gonna they're gonna throw a touchdown

844
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 5: to DeVonta Smith and they're able to do that where

845
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 5: I think they all have the confidence that they can

846
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 5: execute there, but I don't know if they're all currently

847
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 5: agreeing on how they're gonna go about that. And I

848
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 5: would hope that you know, all those hitches are just

849
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 5: side adjustments, and you know it's what the defense is

850
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 5: doing because they have that talent. But a lot of

851
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 5: it feels very familiar, very predictable, and it's it's been

852
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 5: the overall critique and not that they need to go

853
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 5: out and try a whole bunch of stuff and do

854
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of stuff. I would just like to

855
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 5: see them execute to the way that they have in

856
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 5: the past, because we know we can do it, like

857
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 5: with this group of players can execute.

858
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: The problem they have is that I think as Patrick

859
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: Alida's I think they all unified in what they want

860
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 3: it to look like. Stinks they hit routs, the go routs.

861
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: Everything is a return to the quarterback route structure, so

862
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts gets the big target. I think the receivers,

863
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: as we have kind of seen, are probably upset with that.

864
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: One was like a little bit more play design in there.

865
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: But the idea of them getting hot in the playoffs

866
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: I think boils down to well, Kevin Petullo is still there.

867
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: The offensive line is nowhere near the same as when

868
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: he had the two best games of his life Jalen

869
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: Herds in the Super Bowl, so that that to me

870
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: is the major differentiending factor. And then even the defensively,

871
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: I think this idea like the pasts has come alive.

872
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: Those guys run so hot and cold week to weak,

873
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: and yes they have dominant one on one players when

874
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: they turn up and play at their best, but the

875
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: format pastors still has not been through the final five

876
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 3: six weeks to the season anywhere near the level they

877
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 3: should be with their talent. They're still behind the Bears,

878
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: the Titans, the Bengals. In just straight fore man pass

879
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 3: rush since Week twelve of the season. That is nowhere

880
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: near where they should be out if you just lined

881
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: up who they have one on one and they could

882
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: just turn it on for the playoffs. Defensively, I believe

883
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: that that's possible. But I just don't see some magical

884
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: formula where Kevin Petullo is suddenly in his bag and

885
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts is is rolling around and making plays in

886
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 3: the I'm Auldrell like he's done in the super Bowl.

887
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: No, it's just it's just the offensive line specifically playing

888
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: better somehow and maybe and that's probably unrealistic to happen.

889
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: Against this opponent.

890
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, Yeah, Lane Johnson is very questionable

891
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: for this game. They sounded as a team pretty optimistic,

892
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: but it's a hamstring injury.

893
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: It's a serious injury.

894
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: And then Brian Baldinger, who like literally works out at

895
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson's house on Tuesday on his show said like

896
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't He kind of said he didn't think Lane

897
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: Johnson was gonna play, which who knows. He was at

898
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: practice for what it's worth on Wednesday, so he's doing

899
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: something at practice. But I don't think they really know

900
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: if Lane Johnson's gonna play what kind of lane Johnson

901
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, And in my head they they improve

902
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: their running game down the stretch, but then when you

903
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: look at it, it's like it was really just like

904
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: a Raiders game and a Commander's game and like one

905
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: big run at that Chargers game that I went to,

906
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: and even in the Bills game with that they're trying

907
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: to win like that. I don't know if we're feeling

908
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: much better about Saquon Barkley and the running game going

909
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Probably the thing you feel better about

910
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: is like the linebackers for the forty nine ers right

911
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: now are literally coming off the couch, like Eric Kendricks

912
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: is probably starting in this game. We don't know if

913
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: d Winters is going to be available, but they lost

914
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: another linebacker, and so then they signed Kaisier White, an

915
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: old favorite, but like wasn't in the league until a

916
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: week ago, And so if they had a good play caller,

917
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: they would just circle ali those linebackers and they would

918
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: figure out how to take advantage. But I'm not really

919
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: sure that Jalen Hurts has thrown to the middle of

920
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: the field, and I'm not really sure they can take

921
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: advantage in the running game enough, but that's a pretty

922
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: big weakness for San Francisco.

923
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they can't tackle anyways. I alluded to all

924
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: three levels. So really it should be we just get

925
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: the ball to the middle of the field, we get

926
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: the ball to Saque in space, and we'll just take

927
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: over from them. I mean, the idea of not just

928
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 3: throwing the ball little crosses to the bunk to Smith

929
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: and letting him take it to the house and beat

930
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: two guys. That should just be the number one play

931
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 3: in the game plan. And yet it's probably still going

932
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: to be a nauseating amount of like hitches outside the

933
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: numbers where all that stuff becomes quickly irrelevant. So I'm

934
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: prepared to be very frustrated as Eagles bind them way

935
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 3: at the end of this game.

936
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel mostly the same, but I feel pretty

937
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: good about the Eagles.

938
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to take the Eagles and the

939
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: points take them to cover.

940
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, just say what would like the forty nine ers defense?

941
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 5: And I know Robert Saliz accomplished a lot considering the circumstances,

942
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 5: just talent wise things. Leaning birds there onto uh Sunday

943
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 5: at one pm, grit that's right, all right?

944
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills.

945
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 5: One and a half point favorite sally over the Jacksonville Jaguars,

946
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 5: who were so hot down the stretch. The over under

947
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 5: is fifty one and a half games. On CBS, it

948
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 5: is Jim and Tony on the call. Are the Jacksonville

949
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 5: Jaguars ali being disrespected by this line?

950
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: I think they are being disrespected by the line. I

951
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: do think whoever wins this game will go to the

952
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: super Bowl. That's my pot. Even comes out of this

953
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: will do it, because it'll even mean the Bills have

954
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: got a little bit more in them, and some of

955
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 3: the second off production has made its way over somehow

956
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: into the first half of games. They never went on

957
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 3: the road in the playoffs, so that will be mcderm

958
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: and getting over some kind of a thing if they're

959
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: able to do it. And I think this Jacks team

960
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: is an absolute wagon. And if you took the Dcals off,

961
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: this would not be anywhere near a one point spread.

962
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: It would be six or seven or something like that.

963
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: But because the Josh Allen effecta you've got to you

964
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: know effect that in two obviously, but I just think

965
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: the Jacks are significantly better team all the way around.

966
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: I tend to agree that it's just well it's the Bills,

967
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: Well it's Josh Allen. And actually the line, for what

968
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: it's worth, I think started even or even won for Jacksonville.

969
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: And so the public is going for Buffalo, and as

970
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: you like to say, Patrick, it's just on based on

971
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, getting as many people to bet there we.

972
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: Go as possible.

973
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: But I've effective Greg, but.

974
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: They also they don't want to be wrong, but maybe

975
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: they're seeing the money's all going on Buffalo and they

976
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: feel move right, and that's I like to me, the

977
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: Jaguars should be you know, at least two three point favorites,

978
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: plus they're at home. You're thinking of the different ways

979
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: that the Bills can win, and I think this is

980
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: the toughest, one of the toughest games to pick. And

981
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: I think you look a little below the hood at

982
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: the numbers of the Jags defense, which has been outstanding.

983
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: Like they're they're third overall in EPA per play allowed

984
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: on defense, Their DVA is all great, the strength the

985
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: schedule has been great. For what it's worth, they're nineteenth

986
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: against heavy personnel. So that's either with two or three

987
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: tight ends on the field that I don't know if

988
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: that is a sign because they're kind of a lighter

989
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: weight defense that it doesn't hold up as well.

990
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: They're not as versatile.

991
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to know, but that is something

992
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: that the Bills should be able to lean into. Dalton

993
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Kinkaid was one of the few Bills who played the

994
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: entire game just about last week, and he looked good.

995
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: They wanted to get him back and fresh. You got

996
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox, you got our guy Haws, and I think

997
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: they can go heavy and I think the running game

998
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: can work out of that, and certainly Josh Allen and

999
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: using the tight ends and James cook in the passing game.

1000
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: Ty Johnson was out of practice on Wednesday, which is interesting,

1001
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: But that to me is the recipe. Can the Bills

1002
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: offensively kind of overpower the Jaguars a little bit and

1003
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: make it a high scoring game, but make it like

1004
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: a physical high scoring.

1005
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: And that's the difficult needle to thread.

1006
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 5: Where you want this physical game where you've got seven

1007
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 5: tight ends on the field and Josh Allen's having all

1008
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 5: these runs of James Cooks running, but you're trying to

1009
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 5: get up to thirty five points because the Jags, who

1010
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 5: have struggled to run the ball, well, what can cure

1011
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 5: a rushing attack like the twenty twenty five Buffalo Bills

1012
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 5: rush defense. And so I think ETN is gonna have

1013
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 5: a solid game on the ground, and I think the

1014
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 5: pass rush where you have it's I mean, I'd probably

1015
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 5: say it too much. People are almost as sick of

1016
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 5: hearing it as they are about lines being the spur action.

1017
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: But if you have athletes at edge that are gifted

1018
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 5: enough to where Josh Allen can't completely disregard him and

1019
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 5: run away from him like they're not even there. And

1020
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 5: I think between these two where Walker has been so

1021
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 5: much better, especially against the run, where I know, against

1022
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 5: heavy personnel the numbers look a certain way, but that's

1023
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 5: the entire season and it's different context where this is

1024
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 5: a particular, one particular game that I think the Jags

1025
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 5: have at home, where I may be more confident in

1026
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 5: this game being in favor of the Jags that I

1027
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 5: am in any other game.

1028
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: Wow, more than the Rams Chargers, I mean Rams Panthers.

1029
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 5: They beat the they beat the Rams, okay at that stage,

1030
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: but at that level, that is amazing.

1031
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: I love the point Patrick made about the heavy personnels

1032
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: because that's heavy personnel against the rest of the league

1033
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: and not Josh Heines Allen, Trayvon Walkers. You're a heavy

1034
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: edged defenders. The way the Jags fit the runde are

1035
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: just absolutely wild, the way they can come down and

1036
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: just brain people from light to personnel groupings. And I

1037
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: just have this sense of are we really going to

1038
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: go through a Bills game where that decision making is

1039
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: we the way to attack the Jags is just throw

1040
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 3: the ball on the perimeter. We don't like our Primmeter

1041
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: targets were mentioned Keon Coleman all the time, So you

1042
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: we'll just get as heavy and condensed as possible, hand

1043
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 3: the ball off all the time against a world class

1044
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: run defense. And then what Josh Allen has three third downs,

1045
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: so triumphlay herible to decide the game. I just feel

1046
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: like we've seen them do that so consistently that I'm

1047
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: not willing to buy in that'll be so different this

1048
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: go around. And so if the Jacks can just even

1049
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: hold that neutral, which is a strength that thea is

1050
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: obviously run the balls to strength of the Bills too,

1051
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 3: I do lean slightly that the Jags can stone the

1052
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: thing more so than the Bills can push them off

1053
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: the ball, and then if you get into third and

1054
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: long against this Jags defense, even with Josh Allen, obviously

1055
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: you always want to side with Josh Allen, but I

1056
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: would just give the edge episode slight to the Jags

1057
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: that too, because the receiving call.

1058
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan Lewis is not coming back. He is out

1059
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: for the season. It was playing really well as a

1060
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: slot corner and had that injury late late December, So

1061
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: it's Jerry and Jones.

1062
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a guy to pick on.

1063
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: He's actually, to my eye, played pretty well and I

1064
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: don't think there's a lot of areas to pick on.

1065
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: Maybe it's some of the second depth for Jacksonville, but

1066
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: again that's more on the outside where Buffalo doesn't really

1067
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: have the horses to take advantage. Josh Allen's taking a

1068
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: lot of sacks this year, more than ever in his career,

1069
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: so it could be a big Josh Allen sacking Josh

1070
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: Allen moment, which he also had like five years ago.

1071
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: Like we actually we went through this all before, but

1072
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: it could be a really big moment for kind of

1073
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: America to realize how special this duo is because Heinz Allen.

1074
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: He started off well this season, but man he finished great.

1075
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: And Trayvon Walker also was outstanding down the stretch. And

1076
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: I think people are gonna see those two guys and

1077
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: see Devin Lloyd and have a chance to realize like, yeah,

1078
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: they're really special.

1079
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: Like the Jaguars might be the favorite in the AFC.

1080
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to pick a favorite, but I

1081
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: agree with you in terms of like taking the decals

1082
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: off the jerseys, they might be the favorites.

1083
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1084
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 3: I think the problem for the Jags even is they

1085
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 3: get into the vicinity of people a lot. They ball

1086
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: the people, they don't always finish the deal. This is

1087
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 3: a game where you got to get Josh Allen on

1088
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: the floor. E you're gonna try and knock them off

1089
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: in a playoff game. And if there's anyone who is

1090
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: less unbothered by this guys being around in it being

1091
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: a muddy pocket and having does stick one arm out

1092
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: and throw someone off, then go make a throw. It's

1093
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 3: it's obviously Josh Allen. So I would like to see

1094
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: Heinzellen have an excellent game way even if there's a

1095
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: limited pressure rate, you would almost take away like we'll

1096
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: take away ten of the pressures. If we can get

1097
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: even one or two of the sacks, you just got

1098
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: to find a way to get off the field and

1099
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: not have Josh Allen extend drives.

1100
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Speaker 1: Yes, Sean McDermott was interesting for a few reasons in

1101
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: his press conference, but this is obviously a big moment.

1102
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: The dumbest take in sports media this week is how,

1103
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: like the Bills have no excuse now but to make

1104
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: the super Bowl or I win the super Bowl now

1105
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: because Burrow and Lamar Jackson and I'm like, no, they're

1106
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: underdogs this week. What are you talking about, Like there

1107
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: is an excuse they have a shot. I'm I'm with

1108
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: Ali if they could get past this game, like they

1109
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: have as good a chances as anyone to make it.

1110
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, you could look at it experience a couple

1111
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: of ways. There's there's a lot of older players on

1112
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 1: this Bills team, but they have been together a while.

1113
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: I think that continuity overall is a bonus. This is

1114
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: McDermott on their playoff experience.

1115
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 9: The experiences we've I've been here, We've been here, and

1116
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 9: so that comes with, like I guess it brings some

1117
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 9: level of called seasoning, and you would hope, poise and

1118
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 9: composure as we prepare this week and go through our process.

1119
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: I I look at when I think about their continuity

1120
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: and you think about the guys that they're going to

1121
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: need to step up this week, it's like it's Epanessa

1122
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: and it's Rousseau, and it's Joey Bosa, who hasn't been

1123
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: there a while, but he's obviously a veteran player. We

1124
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: don't like, they have some real old old Guard guys

1125
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: out there, Milano and Jordan Poyer, and it's those guys

1126
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: stepping up. But more than anything, it's this offensive line

1127
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: which has been together like untouched for three I think

1128
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: now both guards are are free agents this year. Maybe

1129
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: not quite as good this year as previous years, but

1130
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: still really good. And if I'm thinking of like a

1131
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: route for them to win, it's like it's a group

1132
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: that's been together forever. They could just be the best

1133
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: offensive line in the league for a month, go play

1134
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: like that. It's a pretty great recipe. If you have

1135
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: the best offensive line in the league, or one of

1136
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: them with Josh Allen and James Cook, like that can

1137
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: win any football game.

1138
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 4: Yes, they can absolutely do it.

1139
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 5: And it's not like to discredit the Buffalo Bills and

1140
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 5: the players that they have, and again, they have that

1141
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 5: experience because they have talent, and the talent is what

1142
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 5: has them in the playoffs consistently, and that's what experienced.

1143
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 5: It highlights the continuous, the continuation of sustained success for

1144
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 5: a lot of these guys, even guys where the Bills

1145
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 5: have decided to part ways with them, and then they realized, hey,

1146
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 5: maybe this was actually the best option for all of us,

1147
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 5: and glad to see like God's like Tradavius White, where

1148
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 5: we thought it was over back playing huge plays for

1149
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 5: the team.

1150
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: Although you know his status in this game might be

1151
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: really important.

1152
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: He is playing. But they are not deep at cornerback.

1153
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: And I noticed Sean McDermott say a couple interesting things

1154
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: in his presser this week. First of all, he noted

1155
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: how they only had three active cornerbacks for that Week

1156
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: eighteen game because the team was so thin at cornerback,

1157
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: they didn't have the normal amount that they have on

1158
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: the roster, which felt like h was that like an

1159
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: indirect shot at the Darius Slay trade and how the

1160
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 1: team was built. And then he mentioned his absolute love

1161
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: for how great Jacoby Myers is. How underrated Jacoby Myers,

1162
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: What a great acquisition Jacoby Myers is.

1163
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

1164
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: I couldn't help like putting one in one and one

1165
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: together and thinking like we got Brandon Cooks and we

1166
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: got Darius Slay who retired, and meanwhile, you know, this

1167
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: team has Jacoby Myers, and my defense is going to

1168
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: have to deal with the force of nature that is

1169
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: second half.

1170
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence.

1171
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really know what this experience is that

1172
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: he's talking about. They're zero to five on the road

1173
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: in the playoffs with what is the great experience? And

1174
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: from what I understand, they've had heartbreaking loss up the

1175
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: heart breaking three of them.

1176
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: Three of them in Arrowhead to be fair like at

1177
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: the peak of Mahomes, and the others were kind of

1178
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: like Tyrad Taylor and early Josh Allen, but fair enough.

1179
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: Fair enough and heartbreaking loss. Off the heartbreaking loss, I

1180
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 3: think the experience matters when you go to a Super

1181
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: Bowl and you got to deal with the two weeks off.

1182
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: Otherwise it's not like the NBA where the game change

1183
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: is dramastically dramatically in the playoffs outside of like the

1184
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: blitz rates and stuff, change like that ever so slightly,

1185
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 3: but it's not so discreet as it is if you're

1186
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: playing in the NBA or something like that. So I'd

1187
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: rather just have the better rosta And I think that

1188
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: the answers he's giving on the second half of that

1189
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: where he talking about comes is indicating he thinks he

1190
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 3: doesn't have the horses the Jagons a compan.

1191
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 5: It's the the ability to make plays in space that

1192
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 5: has been the problem for the Buffalo Bills defense like

1193
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 5: season long, and then I'm thinking about etn out in

1194
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 5: space Parker Washington, where you know, especially the offense changes

1195
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 5: so much when Britain Strange comes back, and then there's

1196
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 5: just so much talent and so much space for them

1197
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 5: to cover where it's like, all right, Josh, here you go,

1198
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 5: get out there and do it, like smash yourself into

1199
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 5: oblivion for four quarters and give us a chance to win.

1200
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: Do you think McDermott's got it in him ali to

1201
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: have a great designer game plan with the roster that

1202
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: he has that that does confuse Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence.

1203
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: It's a great coaching matchup when the Chagwarts at the ball, it.

1204
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: Is a great coaching matchup. I think he's been unbelievable

1205
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 3: this season at just seeing in game, and so if

1206
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: it's tight in the fourth quarter, he might have a

1207
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 3: couple of like goodies up the sleeve to maybe catch

1208
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence with one. I think if they Jacks jump

1209
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: out to an early lead, he's in deep trouble. They

1210
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: just have terrible team speed. They have no speed at

1211
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: the second level, the third level. Again talking about their experience,

1212
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: a lot of those experienced guys are pretty much fried

1213
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: at this point frankly, and the guys who should be

1214
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 3: the peak powas just haven't been playing all that well.

1215
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: So if it's an early leaf for the Jags, I

1216
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 3: think they are in massive, massive trouble if they can

1217
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: just keep it tight going into the fourth quarta. The

1218
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 3: fourth quartera pressure rate is absolutely through the roof, competed

1219
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 3: to the rest league, and a lot of that is

1220
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: designed stiff Robin just having one on one killers all

1221
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: the way up from.

1222
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know who they could use in this game

1223
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: is Ed Oliver, who you know that he's sort of

1224
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: in that prime and they're lacking that. You gave me

1225
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: an idea just now in terms of that team speed

1226
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: that I'm going to be using on Game Deview later

1227
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: this week. Oh and it's whatever Brian Thomas Junior's number

1228
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: is this week.

1229
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 2: Let's let's get out.

1230
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: Let's have a two for eighty nine Brian Thomas Junior game.

1231
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: And whoever that friend that you met on the golf

1232
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 1: course that was a big fan of Game Deview this week, Well,

1233
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: we'll see me.

1234
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 4: Pick that game.

1235
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: How about Patrick Claybon getting recognized in the wild Yeah,

1236
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: oh my, if.

1237
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: You work with Greg Wilson.

1238
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 4: Now that's other conversation.

1239
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: Let's take one final break and we'll wrap up.

1240
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: I think the best games of the week are actually

1241
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: in the AFC.

1242
00:54:49,880 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: We'll finish there a few back on an Fell Daily.

1243
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: It's been a while since I experienced what Patrick did

1244
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: the other night, and that I will experience on Sunday night,

1245
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: which is watch my team in the playoffs and then

1246
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: immediately go into recording a show. It'll be me, you

1247
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: and Nick Shook taping a recap of the Sunday games

1248
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: because they gave Sunday night football to Chargers Patriots.

1249
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: This is such a the AFC is.

1250
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: I love the AFC matchups, but these last two Bills,

1251
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: Jags and Chargers Patriots are my favorite games of the week.

1252
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 5: And hopefully, gregor a better result for you perhaps, although

1253
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 5: I know maybe maybe a little house divided situation with

1254
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 5: the with the folks here in La or that.

1255
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be happy.

1256
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: I'll be happy for Justin Herbert to get to get

1257
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: a big time win and watch them go on their journey,

1258
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: and my allegiance will change if they win the.

1259
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 4: Immediate Jersey swap.

1260
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 5: As we discussed the Los Angeles Chargers, Yes on the

1261
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 5: road at the New England Patriots too or three and

1262
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 5: a half point favorites. The over under is forty six

1263
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 5: and a half. It is Mike Turico and Chris Collinsworth

1264
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 5: who called a heck of a game last week in

1265
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 5: that matchup between the Ravens and the Steelers. A potential

1266
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 5: good one here, Greg, where you'll wonder if the matchup

1267
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 5: of a defense that hasn't really shown a lot of

1268
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 5: ability to affect a quarterback against the offensive line and

1269
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 5: a team that have allowed their quarterback to be very

1270
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 5: affected here in twenty twenty five.

1271
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, starting on that side of the ball. Like, I'm

1272
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: really curious if Jamari Sawyer is playing not a big name,

1273
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: but he stabilized their left tackle position at just a

1274
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: normal rate, and he's like their third left tackle. But

1275
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: once you got down to fourth and fifth, it's just

1276
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: a total disaster. And the Patriots are getting healthy at

1277
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: the right time. They had Milton Williams back last week.

1278
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: It sounds like they will get Harold Landry back this week.

1279
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: They also could get Tonga back, who has been a good,

1280
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, run stopper and just like pocket pusher in

1281
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: the middle of their defensive line.

1282
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 2: It makes a huge difference.

1283
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: Like Harol Landry's another injury that kinda has gotten slept on,

1284
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: and so if you can get after Justin Herbert, like

1285
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: that's great. But these two quarterbacks have kind of proven

1286
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: all year that they can get it done when they're

1287
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: under pressure. And if I'm the Chargers, like, this was

1288
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: the matchup I wanted because it's the pass rush I'm

1289
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm least afraid of even if everyone is healthy, and

1290
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: like I think, I think Justin Herbert and the passing

1291
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: game and the Chargers offense is just gonna be fine.

1292
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: I do not think this is like a difference making

1293
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: Patriots defense.

1294
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 4: Now.

1295
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: My only fear is the Jim Hobon Greg Roman pull

1296
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: up like the run game film of the Patriots over

1297
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 3: the past ten weeks, the season sixty, which has just

1298
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 3: been hamorrhaging stuff against the run. Decide that is the

1299
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 3: path forward. We'll get just into third and manageable, and

1300
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 3: it ends up being third and long and it just

1301
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 3: becomes a nightmare evening where he's running for his life.

1302
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: I think you just have to go in and say

1303
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: we'll win the Bowl. And justin sounds like the twenty

1304
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: five Fulty times. We're you're gonna knock this team off

1305
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: on the road or not. I'm gonna go down with

1306
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 3: just and just trying to dice them up. And I

1307
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 3: think that's that's the best opportunities has to spread the

1308
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: pageots out as much as possible, try and pick on

1309
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: the corners who haven't played as well to me as

1310
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: the front has played, and then that would be the

1311
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: path they would have to success.

1312
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a strange Christian Gonzales season. I got

1313
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: some like pushback from people online. They're like, oh, you

1314
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: don't have your guy on All Pro and it was

1315
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: like I didn't even really think about it, and like

1316
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: not that he's been bad, but they I just don't

1317
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: think he's been at the level that he's been at

1318
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,479
Speaker 1: in previous years, and this like this Chargers team has

1319
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: explosive players like quit. I can absolutely see in my

1320
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: mind's eye Quinton Johnson just dusting Carlton Davis for a

1321
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: long touchdown, and Herbert making really great third down plays

1322
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: and picking on them over the middle of the field,

1323
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: whether it's to Gadsden or Alan or or McConkey, and

1324
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: it just being kind of a a great showcase for

1325
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: like two of the best couple quarterbacks in the entire NFL.

1326
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: I was really surprised to hear last week Greg Olsen

1327
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: calling the game and he was just so complimentary of

1328
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: what a great defense the Patriots are. And I do

1329
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: think they're playing better now maybe overall, but they're not

1330
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: a great defense to me.

1331
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 5: I think they have a lot of holes and in

1332
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 5: terms of the holes, how they can patch those up.

1333
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 5: Because it was interesting watching and looking back at Mike

1334
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 5: Rable's availability from today. We're having this conversation on Wednesday,

1335
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 5: and there was discussion about the problems that Greg Roman

1336
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 5: has created for him in the past, when a lot

1337
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 5: of those problems were really just Lamar Jackson in terms

1338
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 5: of I don't know. I don't know that the scheme

1339
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 5: that Greg Roman is cooking up is presenting Mike Rabel

1340
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 5: with a whole bunch of things that's going to keep

1341
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 5: them up. It's the players and the way that at

1342
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 5: times the offense can put Justin Herbert in a position

1343
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 5: to be successful. A lot of that, a lot of

1344
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 5: that's just ten be and ten. But the opportunity for him,

1345
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 5: I think, to not play last week is the reason

1346
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 5: that you can have some call for positivity and belief

1347
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 5: they can go in here and pull off this upset

1348
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 5: because it's a lot it's a lot like the the

1349
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 5: game that the Buffalo Bills are gonna have. It's the quarterback,

1350
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 5: despite all the all of the circumstances against them, going

1351
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 5: up against another team that is more on the same

1352
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 5: page on offense, is more consistent on offense, and they're

1353
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 5: able to do what they do, which is get buckets

1354
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 5: consistently in making explosive plays where that that's been a

1355
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 5: thing all season and I don't care what the schedule says.

1356
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 5: If it's that easy, everybody would do it.

1357
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: The one thing I will say on the on the

1358
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 3: the Lamar Jackson point is Mike Rabel's head does melt

1359
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: down against scrambling quarterbacks. I think it like offensive sensibilities,

1360
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 3: seeing a guy that's like run around the og and

1361
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: take off for eight yards, and he starts adding more

1362
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 3: and more bodies to the line of scrimmage. Then he

1363
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: starts getting ripped over the head and you can just

1364
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: see his brain kind of frazzled mid game. And so

1365
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 3: I think that if the Charges really commit to this

1366
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 3: a just in't feel justin Herbert scrambling designed run game.

1367
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: Let's get Brabel in his own head and then we'll

1368
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: open up those one on one shots you mentioned Twinton

1369
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: Johnson and Gadsdon and McConkey down the field. I think

1370
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: that is the best path forward for them in this game,

1371
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 3: because Rabel really doesn't a tendency just get frustrated by

1372
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 3: scrambling quarterbacks.

1373
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: And I think about how this season started justin Herbert

1374
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: Week one, scrambling the little sassy slides that he had,

1375
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 1: and I think of the game I was at, yeah

1376
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, and in so many other games where

1377
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: his scrambles have made the difference. And these are two

1378
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: of the best, if not the best, scrambling quarterbacks in

1379
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: the league. They are both near the very top in

1380
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: terms of scrambling rushing yards and scrambling passing yards, So

1381
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: they can beat you in structure and they can beat

1382
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: you out of structure. I just think that the structure

1383
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: overall that Drake May has in terms of the offensive

1384
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: system is superior, and that side of the ball is awesome.

1385
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels versus Jesse Minner is great, and kind of

1386
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: the obvious point here is like the pay aren't explosives

1387
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: led offense, and they're going against a team that prevents

1388
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: explosives as good as anyone in the league. You gotta

1389
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: think ali that that Josh McDaniels is looking at this

1390
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: Chargers defense like they can be patient. They have shown

1391
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: they can, but especially using their running backs and tight ends,

1392
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: I think against the Chargers to try to create explosives.

1393
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: That way might be the way that the McDaniels tries

1394
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: to zero in in this game.

1395
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievable match, but I'm probably gonna have to go

1396
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 3: for a cold shower between quotes to calm myself down

1397
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 3: with these guys. That is the thing to me is

1398
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 3: who is gonna break the hand first, who will gamble first?

1399
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: I think that Josh mcdoonalds will be so willing to

1400
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 3: be patient and ride out and if he just has

1401
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: to run the ball constantly and take the checkdowns underneath them,

1402
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 3: maybe if the game is tight in the fourth quarte

1403
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: to let Drake May go and rip one down the

1404
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 3: field that I think he'll be so willing to just

1405
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 3: say this is totally fine with those will take five

1406
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: to six yos to clip and just sustain drives, and

1407
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 3: jesse mentim some way have today. I'm gonna have to

1408
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 3: roll the dice here and and the house to try

1409
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: and get some pressure on Drake May.

1410
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 5: I think the only way that happens is if there

1411
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 5: are no clear out routes. I think if the players

1412
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 5: are there, Drake May is wired specifically to play football

1413
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 5: in this particular way where I think they can call

1414
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 5: it short.

1415
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 4: All he wants. You got to you gotta play, you

1416
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 4: gotta play the way that the guys play. I think

1417
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 4: that would.

1418
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: Definitely And I will say that Minta doesn't change much

1419
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 3: week to week either. And you saw and that even

1420
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 3: in the Texans game, a team who lives in like

1421
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: we sustain drives, we can't really do an awful lot

1422
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 3: else and we kind of sustain drives that well, frankly,

1423
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: but they're able to hit a couple of huge explosive

1424
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 3: touchdown for us because they know exactly what the defense

1425
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 3: is going to be in base in the formation. So

1426
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 3: mcdaian's will have a rollerdex dating back twenty years now

1427
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 3: against specific look we know, and they'll probably, I would

1428
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 3: hope say to Drake during the week these the three

1429
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 3: or four we're going to get too early. Can you

1430
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: just kind of stay on schedule during the early stuff

1431
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: will go creak. The magic if you need to, trust me,

1432
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 3: will get you four three point efforts when you want them.

1433
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 3: So I think you can kind of build that in

1434
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 3: a little bit more and say, hey, it's the first

1435
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: playoff game. Their offense isn't very good, let's just stay

1436
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 3: in the game. I'm not trying to throw the thing

1437
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 3: away only.

1438
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: And you know, mentors, I feel like been a little

1439
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: more creative since their bye week in general, just throw

1440
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, throwing some fun stuff out there, not you know,

1441
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: usually not against great, you know, offenses like this. Although

1442
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: they had a really nice game against the Cowboys that

1443
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: to me was kind of the prove it game for

1444
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: them since week ten. They are second in the league

1445
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: in terms of EPA per play. On defense, you have

1446
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, you have Tuley, you have oh Way, and

1447
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: you're going up against Will Campbell and Morgan Moses in

1448
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: this offensive line, and you know, trying to get pressure

1449
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: on Drake May.

1450
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: And I really do think it's just him, Like you say.

1451
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: He's got to go try to get buckets, but you know,

1452
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: you don't get that seventy two seventy four percent completion

1453
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: percentage by only going for do no, no.

1454
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: He's willing to go for it.

1455
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: And I think the difference maybe right now in terms

1456
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: of my confidence with them that's different is I'm way

1457
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: more confident in their running game today than I was

1458
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: at really any point in the season. Rimandre Stevenson just

1459
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: had like three of the best, you know, weeks of

1460
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: his life, and Trayvon Henderson is making these big plays,

1461
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: and I think overall the Patriots have quietly kind of

1462
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: evolved into the team that their record says they are

1463
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: where it's like they were a little lucky early, but

1464
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: I think they've actually just been a better team, especially

1465
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: running the ball late, and I think they'll be able

1466
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: to be patient against a Chargers team that likes to

1467
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, have not as many guys up front, you know,

1468
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: stopping the run.

1469
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's a many different routes to to explosives,

1470
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 5: and the Patriots seem to acquire them in every different

1471
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 5: aspect where they can where I just it's a good

1472
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 5: football team.

1473
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 4: Greg, don't worry. Don't know.

1474
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I should be worried this Chargers team.

1475
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: I I do give something to the fact that it's

1476
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: Harbor year two, It's Herbert Herbert year whatever it is

1477
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: for him that I think that is an advantage and

1478
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: it is a very like it's it's they have some flaws,

1479
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: but it's a very talent to Chargers team. There's not

1480
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: a team in the AFC field that I don't think

1481
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: the Chargers could beat. Jacksonville might be tough, that was

1482
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: a tough matchup for the first time. But let's say

1483
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers win this game. Like, I don't think the

1484
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: Broncos want to see the Chargers next week. It is

1485
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: not a normal twelve seat it's a it's a twelve

1486
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: one team, it is.

1487
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: But they also have comfortably the worst position group there,

1488
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 3: maybe one of the most important position group in the

1489
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: entire field. And I think the Broncos will be giddy

1490
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 3: right now if you told them that was who they

1491
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: got a face for to that on the biggest weakness, well, now,

1492
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 3: justin herbo.

1493
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: Wa I mean they couldn't score a touchdown off the

1494
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: Chargers backups. I got my guy Marlo Wax looking like

1495
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: Fred Warner out there.

1496
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: They didn't have a freaking touchdown last week. They had

1497
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: twelve points on offense.

1498
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 3: Come on, understand that that's that's a Bonex issue. But

1499
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 3: that is that going to be any better against other groups?

1500
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure. Like I love Jesse Minder, I

1501
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 3: think every single team the league looking for a head

1502
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 3: coach right now should the first call should beat to

1503
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: Jesse Minta. But it is still there's the offensive side

1504
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 3: of the ball, and is so just reliant on Can

1505
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 3: justin Herbert hero mode and cover up all of our

1506
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 3: failings or as some design failings of some personnel failings.

1507
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 3: Can he make his whole five, six, seven, twelve plays

1508
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: a game in a postseason against great defense? Is now,

1509
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 3: this is not a great Patriots defense, but they have

1510
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 3: significantly more difference makes up from than what the Charges

1511
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 3: will be able to put up to try and stop them.

1512
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: I am going to pick the Patriots in this game,

1513
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: but I might do the cowardly thing on our show

1514
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: where we picked the scores and do what's called thread

1515
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: and the needle, so that the Chargers, you know, they're

1516
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: closer than three and a half, but the Patriots win.

1517
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: That's kind of where I'm learning.

1518
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 4: There's nothing cowardly about that.

1519
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: It's just splitting the difference.

1520
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 5: Choosing to evaluate relative to Vegas's expectations, which are generally

1521
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 5: generated in order to make the most money that they.

1522
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: Possibly gave the final game of the weekend. How about

1523
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: the Steelers being home underdogs. I feel like they're setting

1524
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: a trap for us. You think a trap, well, I

1525
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: mean that the whole Tomlin thing. I usually think these

1526
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: historical records are completely meaningless, but something about them winning

1527
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: twenty three straight home Monday night football game spooks me

1528
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: a little bit in the Mike Tomlin.

1529
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 4: Of it all.

1530
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 5: Oh, we'll see if the Houston Texans, a three point favorite,

1531
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 5: can be ghostbusters to Greg's spookiness at the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1532
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 4: The over under is thirty nine and a half. Yes,

1533
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 4: it is on Monday night football.

1534
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 5: So Joe and Troy and Lisa Salters, the entire gang

1535
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 5: on the worldwide leader. There for a great opportunity ALI

1536
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 5: for Aaron Rodgers to show that despite what everybody has

1537
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 5: seen in twenty twenty five, he's going to hang in

1538
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 5: there and attack a really good pass rush.

1539
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 4: How do you see it go?

1540
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,520
Speaker 3: I see it going him on his back fairly consistently

1541
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 3: high five to Zold, Round Whitland, de Send, Daniel Under

1542
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 3: and everyone. I do think the best thing going for

1543
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 3: them is Armage's brain and quick decision making and facing

1544
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 3: a defense you know exactly what you're going to see.

1545
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 3: They play the same stuff enough to down over and

1546
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: over again. So having a full week able to game

1547
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: plan against that, I think maybe gives him a slight

1548
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 3: added advantage. Having DK back is obviously instrumentally on off

1549
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 3: field numbers. With DK in the lineup as m off,

1550
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 3: the lineup are as wild as you will ever see

1551
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 3: with any individual players. So there is a path that

1552
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 3: I believe. I just think the Steelers defense is not

1553
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 3: the level it should be. Take advantage of how pull

1554
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 3: the Texans offense is being consistent.

1555
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: I think they haven't. I agree, it's by statistics the

1556
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: worst Tomlin defense that's ever made it to the playoffs,

1557
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: which is which is crazy to think about, But when

1558
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: you think about the other side of the ball, how

1559
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: we started. I do love listening to that beginning of

1560
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: every Mike Tomlin press conference where he just talks about

1561
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: the opposition for fifteen straight minutes, trying to just.

1562
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: Kill the clock.

1563
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: And he did talk about our favorite duo, Will Anderson

1564
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: and Daniel Hunter.

1565
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 10: Will Anderson and Hunter are simply the most dynamic edge

1566
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 10: rush tandem in the National flo Ball League. In twenty

1567
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 10: twenty five, they got twenty seven sacks between them. I

1568
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 10: think it's twelve for Anderson, fifteen for Hunter. They're a

1569
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 10: formidable group. You could talk about the things that you

1570
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 10: need to do schematically to minimize them and all of that.

1571
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 10: It's nothing that they haven't seen. We better stay out

1572
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 10: of a bunch of one dimensional passing circumstances because if

1573
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 10: we're in those circumstances, we're gonna be in trouble.

1574
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 4: Wow.

1575
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: Shots fired to TJ. Watt and Alex Heismith. I guess there.

1576
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: I would include Nick Herbig in that mix, but they

1577
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: only played them thirteen snaps last week.

1578
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: With TJ.

1579
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: Watt coming off of busted lung, like some of the

1580
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: decision making their kills me.

1581
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: He just like, Aaron Rodgers looks like he's playing a

1582
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: lot better.

1583
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: And then when you saw it, and I know they're

1584
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: season long numbers and stuff, but like when you saw it,

1585
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: he's still second to last for the season in success rate,

1586
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: ahead of only cam Ward. And it's and I think, well,

1587
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: is that just because you know, when he's pressured, it's

1588
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: just at the bottom. It's like, no, when he's not pressured,

1589
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: it's not that good either. It's it's still not very good.

1590
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: And yet they've won four or five games, like these

1591
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: are two hot teams, Like they've won four or five games,

1592
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: and they haven't all been easy opponents, and the Texans

1593
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: have won nine straight. I think Aaron Rodgers has actually

1594
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: earned like a small benefit of the doubt that he

1595
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: might just pull something, you know, out in this game

1596
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: because he has been better down the stretch.

1597
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he won that.

1598
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 5: He won that game, which is essentially a playoff game

1599
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 5: with with Adam Thielen and Scotty Miller and Calvin Austin.

1600
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: And needing touchdowns multiple times in the fourth quarter to

1601
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: make it happen.

1602
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know we could you know, all the

1603
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 5: the lack of ability of the Ravens to generate a

1604
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 5: pass the rush, Well, this will but even then, like

1605
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 5: we saw the ability to kind of constrictor down the

1606
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 5: field six five yard completions over and over again, keeping

1607
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 5: the other team's offense off the field, where I don't

1608
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 5: think that's as much of a priority.

1609
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 4: I know Houston has been better as the season goes

1610
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 4: on here, but.

1611
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 5: It's really about surviving and sustaining drives and being able

1612
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,759
Speaker 5: to get those two or three plays. And Aaron Rodgerson

1613
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 5: definit that not to me and Aaron Rodgers, it's just

1614
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 5: when they're not able to do that, what does it

1615
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 5: look like?

1616
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 4: And I think it could go left rapidly.

1617
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna need to be a big Jalen Warren

1618
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: and team MVP Kenny Gain with all type of game

1619
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: it is, I.

1620
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 3: Still think it will come down to Rogers at this

1621
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: stage of his careers, gaming rady of the ball so

1622
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: much quicker than everyone else. In a playoff game, which

1623
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 3: doesn't look like it's going to be but could be

1624
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 3: his last game in the NFL, is he willing to

1625
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: stand in and just get absolutely rocked? Three times to

1626
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 3: make big time throws. I think he actual he might

1627
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 3: for a playoff game, may do, I'm not so sure.

1628
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 3: If he does, then I think the Steelers do have

1629
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: a chance. I just don't know if the Texans offense

1630
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: can put together enough sustained drives and can convert in

1631
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: the red zone. They're so poor in the red zone,

1632
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 3: so predictable in the red zone. The game will, I think,

1633
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 3: be open and there for the Steelers. And then it's

1634
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: just as I said, whether Rogers was willing to stand

1635
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 3: in He's not gonna be able to move and create.

1636
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 3: He's done it sparingly all seasons. So is he willing

1637
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 3: to take one giant shot to the ribs to rip

1638
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 3: a throw down the field? And I think with a

1639
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 3: playoff game, legacy stuff on the line, he might be

1640
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 3: willing to do it.

1641
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: It's a fair thought that you know a guy like

1642
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who is you know, clearly trying not to

1643
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: get hit. The comp to him was always Tom Brady,

1644
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: and in those like forty plus, especially forty two plus

1645
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: playoff runs, Brady had it in Tampa at the end

1646
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: of New England. He was a little more willing to

1647
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: take a hit at the very end of the season,

1648
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: when it's like when it mattered more and when you

1649
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 1: can see the finish line. I do think the best

1650
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: hope for the Steelers to win, and this season hasn't

1651
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: been a great reason to believe it could happen. But

1652
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: looking at the names on the jerseys and their individual

1653
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: talent is just that this Steelers defense balls out, that

1654
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward is his absolute best, and Derek Harmon is

1655
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: his absolute best, and TJ. Watt and high Smith has

1656
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: been awesome lately. I definitely have concerns about the secondary,

1657
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: but you think of that group and her big going

1658
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: up against this Texans offensive line, which is better but

1659
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: is certainly not great by any means, and just thinking

1660
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: that they could have a couple tip passes and a

1661
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: couple negative plays in terms of sacks, and that they

1662
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: dominate against a Texans offense which is better but still

1663
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 1: below average by basically any measurement, Like they've improved to average,

1664
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: which they're getting pats on the back to, but it's

1665
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: like they're not good.

1666
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 4: Well.

1667
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 5: I think there is a risk for the Steelers team

1668
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 5: to be too aggressive and wind up in a situation

1669
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 5: like last week. Whether they're you know, instead of looking

1670
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 5: at say Flowers running away from they're looking at Nico

1671
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 5: Collins or Higgins in you know, any number of ways

1672
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 5: where if they do try to get too active around

1673
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage and have guys flying at C. J.

1674
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 5: Stroud where we've seen them blow coverages all season long.

1675
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 5: Like it's just been a circumstance the Steelers have not

1676
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 5: been able to prevent. And I think sometimes that is

1677
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 5: trying to make plays. You know that we have Mike

1678
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 5: Tomlin with a Super Bowl championship that comes on a

1679
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 5: James Harrison play that James Harrison probably should have never made. Right, Like,

1680
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 5: they take these chances because they have success with them,

1681
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 5: but when it goes wrong, it goes wrong. Unfortunately for them,

1682
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 5: Tyler Luke misses the kick and they don't have to

1683
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 5: worry about.

1684
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Steelers obviously have the personnel and the individual

1685
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: players who could just take over the game. And it's

1686
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 3: like three drives are just detonated on arrival by Hayward

1687
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 3: or what or Herbig or Highsmith taking over. But the

1688
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: stat I look at to evaluate a defensive staff more

1689
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 3: than any of the stat is third down and three

1690
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 3: to six. That is a coaching stat the Steelers are

1691
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 3: thirty second in the league and debaper play in those situations,

1692
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 3: and it is a chasm between them and thirty first,

1693
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 3: And think about the Cowboys and the Bengals and the

1694
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 3: leftable defenses we have in league. It is embarrassingly bad

1695
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 3: how they've been in those situations. And that is basically

1696
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 3: where the Texans live is like third and three to six,

1697
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 3: and usually we're not staying on the field, and so

1698
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 3: for the Steelers to be in that spot, and I

1699
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 3: think if you look at some of their run game

1700
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 3: stuff over the past few weeks, the numbers have trickled up,

1701
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 3: but if you watch them play, it is really just

1702
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: like a crazy one off play over and over again

1703
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 3: from either high Smith or Hayward. I just don't know

1704
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 3: if that can sustain throughout a playoff runner, even through

1705
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 3: a playoff game. So I leaned slightly head to both.

1706
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 4: Of the texts.

1707
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do as well.

1708
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: It is funny to think about the history of Tomlin

1709
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: because even the you know, you think about the Super Bowls,

1710
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 1: you know one he gave up you know, thirty points

1711
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: two Aaron Rodgers, And maybe that's why you know, all

1712
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: these years later, he's always wanted to have him, and

1713
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,959
Speaker 1: the other one he gave up two fourth quarter touchdowns

1714
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: and over four hundred yards to Kurt Warner. Like their

1715
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: defense tried to gag that game away, but san Antonio Holmes,

1716
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 1: maybe the greatest catch in NFL history, saved him.

1717
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: Some of the numbers with Tomlin are crazy.

1718
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you guys an open ended trivia here.

1719
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 1: Let's see who can win. You might have like a

1720
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 1: slight delay, so that's a disadvantage for you, Ali. Mike

1721
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: Tomlin right now has the third longest tenure of any

1722
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: coach without a playoff win. I was at the game

1723
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: that started this losing streak, which was the twenty sixteen

1724
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: AFC Championship. Can you name the other two coaches with

1725
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: longer droughts without a playoff win?

1726
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 3: On Shula?

1727
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 1: Nope, I mean one I thought was going to be

1728
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: really obvious because it's just, uh, it's sort of related here.

1729
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 4: Jason Garrett.

1730
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: No, nope, I thought head coach Jason I mean one.

1731
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: One was in the division here with the Steelers. I

1732
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: thought you guys would have had had this. No, No,

1733
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: it was Marvel, Marvin, Marvin Lewis and and Jim Mora

1734
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: with the Colts. You know, he had he had that

1735
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: long run, but he could never get a playoff win

1736
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: before they finally great. So that's a long time it

1737
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 1: could be. Who knows if if if the twenty three

1738
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: Street you know, winning streak thing ends and it's your

1739
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: seventh straight playoff loss. I don't know if speaking of

1740
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: streaks ending, this is the first time the Texans have

1741
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 1: ever not played in West of US. I didn't realize

1742
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: that on the first weekend. They have played in the

1743
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon slot eight straight times, so this just might

1744
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable to them, and they were. They're six and

1745
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: two in those games. Maybe it's DK mecap. My last

1746
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: question for you, Ali, is there any concern about your

1747
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: beloved Texans defense over the last month.

1748
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: Gonna throw a couple numbers at you.

1749
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: Twelfth in EPA per play allowed, eighth and success rate allowed.

1750
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: I know that includes some of that second half backups

1751
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: in against the Colts, but overall not quite as dominant

1752
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: the last month of the season. And what are you

1753
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: kind of looking for with that DK matchup against those

1754
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: great cornerbacks.

1755
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some of that too, with the injuries

1756
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 3: of some of the guys in the secondary playing some

1757
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 3: games and then kind of back and forth who is

1758
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 3: available at linebacker two. So if they of all fully healthy,

1759
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 3: I think they should be okay. Because they are. It's

1760
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 3: like the most prectable defense in the league against the

1761
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 3: most predictable offense in the league, and one has superior

1762
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 3: talent to the other one. I do think that level

1763
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 3: of predictability. Although it is fun just see a team

1764
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 3: body up and say this is what we doing. We're

1765
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 3: better than everyone in football, I do think that will

1766
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 3: catch you out towards the end of the season. When

1767
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 3: you just put that much film down against the beat.

1768
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 3: There are degrees of like, Okay, this guy is not

1769
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 3: quite this good and this elite of a play at

1770
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 3: this one specific thing. Let's target him in that fashion.

1771
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 3: So that could be something particularly I Rudge's just running

1772
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 3: the game himself with the line of scrimmage be into

1773
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 3: that more than just like ar the Smith's game plan.

1774
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 3: So that would maybe be the thing. Can they find

1775
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 3: a way just get one or two explosives to DK

1776
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 3: that really mattered converted to touchdowns, either big shot the

1777
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 3: converts in the red zone or finding him for touchdown itself.

1778
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 3: But even then, I just think there's so much more

1779
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 3: overwhelming talent for the Texans defense than what the Steels

1780
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 3: are rolling with.

1781
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 4: They have, especially late in games, I had some trouble

1782
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 4: making tackles.

1783
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 5: I know it's a very good defense that they can

1784
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 5: get into position, but you go all the way back

1785
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 5: to the Buccaneers game on that final dropt for both

1786
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 5: Bucky Irving and Baker Mayfield making plays in space, and

1787
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 5: a Steelers offense that gets sixty five percent of its

1788
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 5: passing yards after the catch where you know, tackling DK

1789
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 5: and team V.

1790
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,839
Speaker 4: Thank you for always pointing it out, Greg, since it's happened.

1791
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 5: Kenneth Gabe, Oh forever, I'm best running back on the

1792
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh steel Yeah.

1793
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: At forever.

1794
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention twenty twenty five team MVP Kenneth Gainwell

1795
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 1: for a team that went to the playoffs and won

1796
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: ten games.

1797
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 9: Uh.

1798
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 1: Last thing here, the kicker matchup. I mean Boswell's not

1799
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: He's not Chris Boswell anymore. And you got my favorite

1800
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: kicker in the league, Kayimi Fairbaron, so that that could be, uh,

1801
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: that could be where it turned.

1802
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 5: My apologies to the Steelers for putting the putting the

1803
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 5: onus on Chris Boswell, calling him the best kicker of

1804
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 5: the generation.

1805
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: A total downhill, total serial killer. And I love that

1806
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: we're getting Joe and Troy on this call. I think

1807
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be their last call of the year.

1808
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 4: I don't think.

1809
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they get a divisional run game. That's unfortunate.

1810
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: We are going to have YouTube gentlemen throughout the playoffs.

1811
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: Of course, Patrick will be back on Sunday. Ali will

1812
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:53,440
Speaker 1: be joining us next week at a time to be determined.

1813
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: I am really looking forward to this wild Card weekend.

1814
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: It's no longer Super Wildcard weekend.

1815
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 4: By the way, did you know that? I didn't notice,

1816
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 4: But no, I know.

1817
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: I think this is now multiple years we were making

1818
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: fun of Super wild Card weegand business.

1819
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 2: They don't use it anymore. It's everyone just knows.

1820
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: We'll be back in the feed on Friday, Cynthia and

1821
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: I with our picks against the spread. I'm coming off

1822
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: at three and oh week We'll see you then.