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Speaker 2: Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: And it is a Tuesday here inside the SWBC podcast
Speaker 3: studio at the Star in Frisco. And this is Mick Shots,
Speaker 3: Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola with a very special guest at
Speaker 3: least for a little while today, Nate in Frisco is here.
Speaker 4: Nate, Man, I'm gonna apologize to you guys. I have
Speaker 4: a parents at twelve thirty, so I'm thinking and I'm
Speaker 4: going by. I'm just so I'm watched out.
Speaker 1: Man. I can't. I can to get into the routine
Speaker 1: of what we're doing.
Speaker 5: Around Where are you appearing?
Speaker 1: I'm peering up in the auditoriy.
Speaker 4: You might have to do something for some fans a
Speaker 4: little quick telling him about my life, and you know.
Speaker 3: We'll structure the show around you. When I got to leave.
Speaker 4: It about five about five minutes, man, what do you have?
Speaker 4: I'm sorry if you had to prepare for it for
Speaker 4: that up there no, I don't have to prepare for
Speaker 4: but I'm not a late person.
Speaker 1: I'm so nervous when i'm late.
Speaker 5: Well, you've got five.
Speaker 3: Minutes to go up, go back the curtain. Here Everson
Speaker 3: Walls called in sick today because he's playing in Charles
Speaker 3: Haley's golf.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, gonna beat him to death with Haley.
Speaker 5: Had a fundraiser.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tackle Tomorrow and Dak Dak did a super speech
Speaker 4: last night. Oh really, all those Hall of famers and.
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe the people that were there.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was hundreds of people there. And and Dak
Speaker 4: came in because Charles talked about him early in the
Speaker 4: program and saying, you know, Dak not only talks about
Speaker 4: Tackle Tomorrow and mental health, he gives a lot of
Speaker 4: money and I'm not going to mention the number, and
Speaker 4: he's but he mentioned the number.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, that's sweet. And he said
Speaker 1: Dak should be here.
Speaker 4: And about an hour in, right after the auction, here
Speaker 4: comes Dack in short pants and you know it's pat
Speaker 4: you know, football hat, and he talks about this and
Speaker 4: and just.
Speaker 1: You know, most people have.
Speaker 4: Charities and can't talk about them, but his knowledge of
Speaker 4: his charity and of Charles. You can tell something, yes,
Speaker 4: and he's from the heart, talking to the superintendents, talking
Speaker 4: to the principals. Charles put on it. The people that
Speaker 4: help Charles put on a first class deal. I mean
Speaker 4: you should come next year, y'all. I'm telling you it
Speaker 4: is something special. All means Joe Green, Uh, Eric Dickerson,
Speaker 4: you name him, Ricky Uh for the seat for the Saints.
Speaker 1: I can't think of Ricky's last Ricky Jackson.
Speaker 4: Hell, yeah, guys just show up, man, Marcus Allen, you
Speaker 4: know I.
Speaker 5: Think I saw ye, Marcus Allen.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean usually Doug show up, Doug with I mean,
Speaker 4: they are there in droves for Charles. And they those people,
Speaker 4: all the sponsors, all the people that invite, they write checks.
Speaker 1: They don't joke, they don't know. They write checks.
Speaker 4: And uh, it's just amazing what Charles to do. And
Speaker 4: he's like, man, I want to come on to your podcast.
Speaker 4: I said, Charles, I say, you know, we don't know
Speaker 4: what you're gonna say. I talk about tackle for Tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know you'll start out that way. When it ended up,
Speaker 4: somebody's gonna be an m o.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd have to have how long of a delay?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Chris, because the last time I had him
Speaker 5: on when we did the Legend show and he he dropped,
Speaker 5: uh whatever body yeah, And I said, Charles, you can't
Speaker 5: do that. We're live radio. He goes, you mean I
Speaker 5: can't say.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: So anyway, so we learned that Everson had a tea
Speaker 3: time at noon and so he couldn't be here, okay,
Speaker 3: And so then Nate's got my producer Supreme's office, and
Speaker 3: then producer Supreme said, hey, Nate, you want to fill
Speaker 3: in for ever since?
Speaker 1: So every said I got excited because I had a
Speaker 1: chance to pick at you. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so Nate shows up here like ten minutes early,
Speaker 3: ready to roll. And then as we're coming on the
Speaker 3: air here he's looking at his phone and he goes, oh,
Speaker 3: that's right, I've got it. Appearance at twelve thirty.
Speaker 5: Well what if we break twelve overbooked?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because I got it. I gotta get
Speaker 1: up there, man, Yeah, you can take the elevator, you know,
Speaker 1: I can run upstairs. I got new knees. Yeah right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm the type of guy.
Speaker 4: I was late for something in training camp and almost
Speaker 4: fell apart and almost couldn't.
Speaker 1: Do the show. I just being late and I can't
Speaker 1: get past.
Speaker 4: For one of the times I was late and I
Speaker 4: was a minute late, and it cost me five hundred.
Speaker 5: Bucks when you were playing, yeah, when we were playing.
Speaker 4: Because we started this, I'm sorry. On the shoal Joe
Speaker 4: Avasona used to have special teams met yes, and I
Speaker 4: used to be a part of special teams back then.
Speaker 4: I was on two or three special teams.
Speaker 1: And guys one minute late usually nothing happens. And so
Speaker 1: but one day.
Speaker 4: Everybody was there and I'm like, coach, everybody here but
Speaker 4: one guy. I said, when this guy come in here late,
Speaker 4: he getting a maximum flying. Well, the maximum flying back
Speaker 4: there was maybe fifteen hundred if a guy missed the
Speaker 4: whole meeting. But we're like, uh huh, every minute it's
Speaker 4: one hundred bucks. Then it got to be two hundred bucks.
Speaker 4: So you show up in there about five or six
Speaker 4: minutes late, you could be out on thousand dollars real easy.
Speaker 4: So all our meetings started five minutes till that's how
Speaker 4: it got five minutes till a guy walked in three
Speaker 4: minutes heard no, that's.
Speaker 1: A thousand dollars dog. So our meeting started five minutes early,
Speaker 1: and for some reason, I can't break it.
Speaker 3: That's good, I can't break it. Good habit not to break.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it showed up a minute late.
Speaker 4: Me I should have a minute late. Yeah, but just
Speaker 4: before we started. But after I got away with that,
Speaker 4: I saw.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine how much that would take the stress
Speaker 3: out of your life if you if you use that
Speaker 3: formula all the time? Just if a meeting starts at noon,
Speaker 3: show up at eleven thirty, eleven forty five?
Speaker 4: Yes, then two o'clock, right, Michael Irvin does?
Speaker 1: Is the other eighty eight? Like that?
Speaker 5: Is?
Speaker 1: Uh city? Like that?
Speaker 3: Play showed up late for preseason?
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin dies and they both said the same thing. Hey, Mike,
Speaker 1: say the clock. Okay, let's get started. But it was
Speaker 1: a fifteen.
Speaker 4: Hey, Danes, is that o'clock? Eight fifteen? Let's get started?
Speaker 4: Is all eighty eighths like that?
Speaker 1: I know? Drew one like that because you had to
Speaker 1: be on time.
Speaker 5: Has almost missed the trip to London?
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, he showed up.
Speaker 5: He show if we were leaving at four o'clock. He
Speaker 5: pulled into the parking lot, but still had to go
Speaker 5: through security. Matter about three fifty eight.
Speaker 3: That was at Valley Ranch. I remember I was doing
Speaker 3: a live shot outside the facility out on the street
Speaker 3: and the buses were still there. All right, supposed to
Speaker 3: leave it four o'clock, and it was like four point
Speaker 3: thirty before the buses leap. Well, the reason was because
Speaker 3: Dez showed up late and he had to go get
Speaker 3: stuff for the trip.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 3: All right, let's in our limited time we have with
Speaker 3: a six time Pro Bowl offensive lineman. Tell me what
Speaker 3: you saw out of these offensive linemen. By the way,
Speaker 3: I'll add that there's report that Cowboys have restructured Terrence
Speaker 3: Steel's contract for ing up four and a half million
Speaker 3: dollars at cap space this morning. Oh so no, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure what they're going to do with that cap space.
Speaker 3: But tell me what you saw out of the offensive lineman,
Speaker 3: especially the two.
Speaker 4: Rookies, starting with the left tackle, Tyler Guidon. Tyler Guidon,
Speaker 4: Oklahoma's finest.
Speaker 3: Trent Williams might be their fight. I'm followed by Lane Johnson.
Speaker 1: That's a beast. He mentioned that name.
Speaker 4: That's a h of a man from real But anyway,
Speaker 4: this young guy has defeat. We knew that has the recovery.
Speaker 4: We knew that, but I preached all camp Loannick technique, technique, technique.
Speaker 4: He spent the majority of the game not trusting his
Speaker 4: strength in the length of his arms.
Speaker 1: He leaning on this guy. He leaning on this guy leaning.
Speaker 4: He all he has to do is he got the
Speaker 4: foot speed to kick back with the proper on angles.
Speaker 4: But he wanted for some reason. I guess he mauled
Speaker 4: a lot of guys in cottage. But he has the
Speaker 4: strength and he just got to learn your punch. He
Speaker 4: could have redirected this guy, and by the end of
Speaker 4: the game, the way that game is going, he could
Speaker 4: have wore him down.
Speaker 1: But they gave him a lot of help.
Speaker 4: He fought through it, and that is the key in
Speaker 4: the new NFL being able to hem.
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm proud of him. He fought through the game.
Speaker 4: When you play a great player like Miles Garrett and
Speaker 4: you make it through the game, a desirious, desirous Darius Smith,
Speaker 4: and you make it through the game only one sack,
Speaker 4: a couple of tackles, but you made it through the game,
Speaker 4: and all you have to work on is your technique,
Speaker 4: your technique, your technique, versus making it through the game
Speaker 4: and the coach saying, I don't know this dude gonna
Speaker 4: make it.
Speaker 1: Well, they know he's gonna make it.
Speaker 5: Wasn't Chas Green, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: They've learned the valuable lesson. Well if this coach would
Speaker 4: have never.
Speaker 1: Let that happen because they gave him help. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they gave it health.
Speaker 5: Not every play, but they gave him help.
Speaker 4: I liked early how Zeke went out one time. And
Speaker 4: I'm not a big proponent with this, with against miles
Speaker 4: of people going out because he's smart. He'll use that
Speaker 4: running back against you. But Zeke one time saved his bacon.
Speaker 4: You saw one time Ferguson saved his bacon. But this
Speaker 4: kid never stopped fighting. He balled, he balled, he bawled.
Speaker 1: And they helped him. I like how coach McCarthy and
Speaker 1: coach Salary scheme this up.
Speaker 4: They helped this kid, and they kept him on the
Speaker 4: move where they kept somebody on the move all the
Speaker 4: time bumping this kid. So myles, he's hearing the hot
Speaker 4: tub because he got hit a lot. Now our center.
Speaker 1: Was the helper. I like that not all the time,
Speaker 1: not know he wasn't.
Speaker 4: Because sometime when they turned the protection. He had to
Speaker 4: go straight to the guy and all he got was
Speaker 4: a help in hand. So not all the time, but
Speaker 4: the majority of his time was helping they run to.
Speaker 1: Even look man over the guard, man over the guard.
Speaker 1: He had a linebacker.
Speaker 4: Now they hit the a gaps and so he knew
Speaker 4: who he knew the majority of the time who to
Speaker 4: get now. One time, this is where Dak earned that
Speaker 4: nice little paycheck. One time they misread the protection. They
Speaker 4: was all supposed to go right, you know, but the
Speaker 4: center went left. I mean, it was all supposed to
Speaker 4: go left, but the center bumped right first and then
Speaker 4: went left.
Speaker 1: That left a free man.
Speaker 4: That's when Dak tossed that ball to Brandon Cooks because
Speaker 4: they blitched.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they blitzedbacker came up. This guy.
Speaker 4: From what I see, that's about Cooper Bebee did a
Speaker 4: nice job. He did a nice job. He was a helper.
Speaker 4: But as the season go on, you're gonna have true
Speaker 4: overs and nus where they put somebody over the center.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be the true test of how you do things.
Speaker 4: I don't he didn't blow any protections. He pointed out
Speaker 4: the strength of everything of the protection.
Speaker 1: So he when he gets on you.
Speaker 4: The difference between him and the other centers is when
Speaker 4: he gets on you, he gonna move your Oh he's
Speaker 4: gonna he gonna be stuck to you like a spotty
Speaker 4: tick on the right on a red bone hound.
Speaker 1: He gonna be stuck to you. So these kids, one
Speaker 1: thing I like about them. They're fighters.
Speaker 4: And once their technique continue to get better and better,
Speaker 4: and once they get more and more experience. Uh, I
Speaker 4: think I haven't looked at the Saints, but they gonna
Speaker 4: give them a they're gonna get, They're gonna they gonna
Speaker 4: come in here pumped up. I mean, they just ran
Speaker 4: over a team, which rightfully so they should have done
Speaker 4: last week.
Speaker 1: The Saints. But this ain't we ain't.
Speaker 4: We ain't them balls down South. We ain't we ain't
Speaker 4: NASCAR racing down there. That's racing country. We we bring
Speaker 4: a different flavor.
Speaker 3: So ryal test for bebe is gonna be uh Baltimore
Speaker 3: when they got big old Michael Pierre, Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 3: then the following week the Giants when they've got Dexter Laarnch.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell big I'm gonna tell a big
Speaker 4: fellow man, just lose your hands into guy chewy fatty duties.
Speaker 1: You know, just make.
Speaker 3: Those are two different problems. Michael Michael Pierce versus Dexter Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence is a problem. He's the Miles Garrett of
Speaker 3: the inside.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 5: Yes, Schottenheimer said. One of the things get struggled a
Speaker 5: little bit with the catence, like he wasn't getting off
Speaker 5: on the snap count. And he said when he gave
Speaker 5: up the sack, he was late. And what he did
Speaker 5: instead of backing up square, he dipped his shoulder.
Speaker 1: He tried to turn. Yeah, and they tried to turn.
Speaker 3: And I didn't.
Speaker 5: I never thought of this. So you dip your left shoulder,
Speaker 5: which means the corner just got shorter. Right, he doesn't
Speaker 5: have to go as far around.
Speaker 4: Anytime a tackle leans, he's giving up inches.
Speaker 1: Especially these guys like him is still with these loans on.
Speaker 4: Just imagine I'm on Bill and I got my arms
Speaker 4: out all of a sudden, I bring.
Speaker 1: It in here. That's that's six inches. I bring it
Speaker 1: in here. That's two feet. If I do this right here,
Speaker 1: he got me.
Speaker 4: So anytime you don't use that, God gave you them
Speaker 4: talented long arms like that. Oh man, all he had
Speaker 4: to do was just sit back, even though he was late.
Speaker 4: Just come straight back, you know, and try to anchor
Speaker 4: yourself quick as you can with a punch. That's all
Speaker 4: he had to do. I mean, now that's easy to say,
Speaker 4: but from a guy coming off out of college and
Speaker 4: had no experience but the preseason and not everybody going
Speaker 4: one hundred miles and only one game in the thank you,
Speaker 4: thank you, and only one game at left tackle in college.
Speaker 4: So he fought through this like Swiss to say, I'm sorry, sweet,
Speaker 4: you don't know what you don't know, but once you
Speaker 4: saw it, learned it's gonna be a great thing.
Speaker 5: Was the greatest quote.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So and BB, by the way, when he didn't have someone,
Speaker 5: he went and found someone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's active.
Speaker 5: I went back and looked last this morning actually, and
Speaker 5: on the Zeke's touchdown run, we saw Zeke run through Thornhill.
Speaker 5: But BB was the reason Thornhill didn't get there in
Speaker 5: time because he was pulling out and he he just
Speaker 5: gave him a little shove and it got him off
Speaker 5: balance and that's why when he got there, he wasn't square.
Speaker 5: And if you ain't square on Zeke, your your toes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I gotta get out of here.
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Speaker 3: I guess the New Orleans Saints first of two straight
Speaker 3: home games. Baltimore Ravens will be in here the following Sunday,
Speaker 3: and Jerry was on the radio. Well, first off, let's
Speaker 3: go back to yesterday afternoon. Jack paid a visit to
Speaker 3: the owner's office and signed a contract, and the Jones
Speaker 3: family was all there. You probably saw the pictures of that,
Speaker 3: and he tweeted out a message to all Cowboys fans.
Speaker 3: Afterwards it was posted online and then Jerry was on
Speaker 3: the radio this morning. What did you take from here?
Speaker 5: So since he signed, I saw some numbers on the contract.
Speaker 3: Oh you got it, okay, And.
Speaker 1: This year.
Speaker 5: His salary cap hit his forty three point three eight million,
Speaker 5: So it went down because they were able to use
Speaker 5: his base salary which was twenty nine million and pro
Speaker 5: rated over the life of the deal. But next year,
Speaker 5: here's what people don't understand when they think it's just
Speaker 5: well sixty million a year, and you know, the next
Speaker 5: year his cap hit is eighty nine point eight eight
Speaker 5: million dollars, thirty two percent of the salary cap. Think
Speaker 5: about that. Now, they put voided years at the end,
Speaker 5: so they're going to be able to pay him money
Speaker 5: up front restructure it. But the other thing I don't
Speaker 5: think everybody when everybody says this extension was two hundred
Speaker 5: and sixty million to forty to forty excuse me. That
Speaker 5: forty million still had to be accounted for in restructure bonus.
Speaker 5: So that went against the cap hit, right, So that
Speaker 5: doesn't go away, And.
Speaker 3: So why it's up to eighty nine point eight million
Speaker 3: next year is because that million, yeah factored.
Speaker 5: In and so uh and if you look at it, uh,
Speaker 5: the guarantee at signing was one hundred and twenty nine million,
Speaker 5: which was his base salary this year, his forty seven
Speaker 5: point seventy five million base next year, and the eighty
Speaker 5: million dollar signing bonus. So that was the guaranteed. Now
Speaker 5: the other guarantees are like if he's on the roster
Speaker 5: March whatever in twenty twenty five, at guarantees twenty twenty six,
Speaker 5: and it goes on and on and on. But just
Speaker 5: to understand what those cap hits are over the life
Speaker 5: of the contract, then it's sixty eight million, sixty two million,
Speaker 5: and seventy two million through twenty twenty eight. So uh,
Speaker 5: that's why these things take time. And uh, it's not
Speaker 5: as easy as saying, well, you just pay him sixty
Speaker 5: million a year for four years, that's two hundred and
Speaker 5: forty million, and let's go about it. But that's not
Speaker 5: the way this thing works out. Because if you add
Speaker 5: up as cap hits, he's over three hundred million in
Speaker 5: cap hits.
Speaker 3: And we've talked about it leading up to Sunday when
Speaker 3: the agreement was made that What was different about Dak's
Speaker 3: negotiations than all the other quarterbacks that have been signing
Speaker 3: recently is this is Dak's third contract. Those other quarterbacks
Speaker 3: it was their second contract used, so you don't have
Speaker 3: that hidden money left over from the second contract that
Speaker 3: you have to take accounting for.
Speaker 5: And they were able to because their their fifth year
Speaker 5: base salary wasn't that high because it was their initial contract, right, right,
Speaker 5: So you could stuff money into that fifth year. If
Speaker 5: the Cowboys stuffed money into what Dak was costing this
Speaker 5: fifth year, it was going to be over sixty million
Speaker 5: dollars cap hit. But they couldn't do that. So what
Speaker 5: they did is they paid him restructure bonus and lowered
Speaker 5: his cap hit to forty three million for this year.
Speaker 5: So and you mentioned that they restructured steels contract. So
Speaker 5: one of the things I'm sure they're looking at is
Speaker 5: making sure they have money if they want to elevate
Speaker 5: guys off the practice squad like Vigil, right, veteran guy
Speaker 5: on the practice squad. He's probably only costing I don't know,
Speaker 5: no more than twenty one thousand a week, but he
Speaker 5: gets elevated and all of a sudden, you're making a
Speaker 5: heck of a lot more, and the same thing with
Speaker 5: Delvin Cook if they ever get to the point where
Speaker 5: they want to elevate him too. So they need operating
Speaker 5: capital and that's probably why they did that.
Speaker 3: They might need some money too as we get closer
Speaker 3: to the trade deadline to see where they are injury
Speaker 3: wise at certain positions, right, and have the flexibility to
Speaker 3: be a to add a player too.
Speaker 5: Now, Jerry sounded optimistic that Ferguson potentially could play in
Speaker 5: this game. On Sunday.
Speaker 3: It ended was after his examination of his knee.
Speaker 5: Yes, right, He looked at the MRI and decided it
Speaker 5: was a medio collateral ligament sprain and a bone bruise
Speaker 5: because he hyper extended his knee. Because I heard somebody say, well,
Speaker 5: good thing is just a sprain. It's not a tear. No,
Speaker 5: a sprain, knee ligament is a tear meaning partially it phrase.
Speaker 5: So he said, we are relieved about it. So we'll
Speaker 5: see just where Ferguson is by the end of the week.
Speaker 3: And back on the that contract. As far as his
Speaker 3: radio interview this morning, he was asked about taking it
Speaker 3: to the eleventh.
Speaker 5: Hour, yes, and Jerry's answer was the eleventh hour to
Speaker 5: what there was no deadline, right. It wasn't like, well,
Speaker 5: if we don't get this done, Dak's not playing in
Speaker 5: the game. He's gonna walk away now.
Speaker 3: The only deadline from that standpoint is, okay, they both
Speaker 3: want a deal done. And even though Dak may not
Speaker 3: come out and say it, I mean, it's just human nature.
Speaker 3: You want to get it done and not have him
Speaker 3: risk injury. You know, if they already basically have an
Speaker 3: agreement where they've got the parameters together, you might as
Speaker 3: well go ahead and knock it out, get it taken
Speaker 3: care of before he steps off the field for the
Speaker 3: first game.
Speaker 5: If you were my agent, I don't want to go
Speaker 5: and play that game. That's right, without knowing that money's
Speaker 5: in the bank. I's right, right, Yeah, So it's a
Speaker 5: two way street, right, And that's what Jerry was trying
Speaker 5: to point out, that we can get close and we
Speaker 5: see something we like, it's like, okay, let's go get it.
Speaker 5: But the other side's got to say, okay, we want
Speaker 5: to do it too.
Speaker 3: And even the gist to that question, wait until the
Speaker 3: eleventh hour, Well, okay, it's the eleventh hour. If we're
Speaker 3: talking about that the deadline is the start of the
Speaker 3: regular season. Okay, But behind that question is why didn't
Speaker 3: you get it done like a year ago. Well that
Speaker 3: he had two years left on his contract a year ago, right,
Speaker 3: and so there's no reason to like you would The
Speaker 3: gist of the question was you could save money if
Speaker 3: you got it done earlier. Number One, you have to
Speaker 3: have both parties agreeing to it. Secondly, there's more water
Speaker 3: under the bridge. Seventeen games plus the playoffs under the bridge,
Speaker 3: since that more evidence to tell you whether or not
Speaker 3: you want to do this deal or not, and the
Speaker 3: health of the player as well, So it doesn't make
Speaker 3: any sense to do it a year ago.
Speaker 5: Jerry also pointed out that Dak had some leverage because
Speaker 5: he said Dak had the ability to play it out
Speaker 5: and be free and then test what somebody else might
Speaker 5: pay him.
Speaker 3: Right, And it's a you can tell by the quarterback
Speaker 3: play around the league that the market would be there
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 5: Oh, I found a half dozen teams that would sign
Speaker 5: him for seventy million tomorrow right if he was available.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think everybody needs to understand, you know,
Speaker 5: and I never understand, like, well, if we don't get
Speaker 5: it done by the start of the season. I'm done.
Speaker 5: I'm not negotiating. They're going to give you eighty million
Speaker 5: to put in the bank tomorrow and you're going to say, no,
Speaker 5: I'm done. Bs Right, it's all about leverage and trying to,
Speaker 5: you know, get it publicly, get some leverage by saying
Speaker 5: stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And the other thing. As far as the size of
Speaker 3: the contract and so forth, Well, that's the going rate
Speaker 3: for quarterbacks in this league right now. The success of
Speaker 3: this league, the salary cap is raised to a point
Speaker 3: that as there's, however, many quarterbacks, close to a dozen
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that are all in that same salary cap range
Speaker 3: right now, and a lot that have done far less
Speaker 3: than what Dak has done in his career.
Speaker 5: Well, at some point the NFL needs to re establish
Speaker 5: a quarterback salary cap that's independent of the rest of
Speaker 5: the team and say, okay, you can pay this guy
Speaker 5: however much and it doesn't count against the cap. I mean,
Speaker 5: it just makes sense to think about think about people
Speaker 5: that make movies. The star gets all the money, right,
Speaker 5: and then guys like me and you it's like, okay.
Speaker 3: You get Although that clays into the whole parody of
Speaker 3: the league is because I know because there's only only
Speaker 3: a fourth or third of the teams that are have
Speaker 3: established quarterbacks that have those type contracts, because those are
Speaker 3: the teams that are winning well. And then it levels
Speaker 3: the playing field when you're paying have to pay that
Speaker 3: quarterback that amount of money, and you can't pay the
Speaker 3: rest of the team, and so then everyone winds up
Speaker 3: nine to eight or eight and nine. Well that de
Speaker 3: Roselle is.
Speaker 5: Very happy, and he'd be happy about that. By the way,
Speaker 5: did you were you able to watch last night.
Speaker 3: Parts of the game enough to know what happened in
Speaker 3: the game and enough to know that Jordan Mason out
Speaker 3: of Georgia Tech University, another graduate of the Shard choice
Speaker 3: college NFL running backs he coached him at Georgia Tech,
Speaker 3: put on unbelievable to performance in place of Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 3: running for one hundred and forty seven yards. Think of
Speaker 3: the running backs that to Shard has coached. You got
Speaker 3: the Texas ones, which include this year's second round pick
Speaker 3: Jonathan Brooks who's on the Carolina roster hurt right now,
Speaker 3: and Bjean Robinson from last year, Roshawn Johnson from last year,
Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs of the Lions. He coached him at Georgia
Speaker 3: Tech as well. And now this guy, I'm like, I
Speaker 3: see he was undrafted three years ago out of Georgia Tech.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 3: Of course he was coached.
Speaker 5: By Tishard and he might have made himself.
Speaker 3: So you know who he reminds me of. And Troy
Speaker 3: actually eventually said it himself. I said, he looks like Marshawn.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, you know he runs me.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 5: I'd forgotten. So that was the most carries I think
Speaker 5: he had since the Cowboy game last year when he
Speaker 5: had he had ten carries for sixty nine yards, which was.
Speaker 3: Because it was a blowout win for the Niners.
Speaker 5: And I remember this part. They ran for one hundred
Speaker 5: and seventy yards against the Cowboys. It was on the road.
Speaker 5: I forgot what the score was, do you remember. I
Speaker 5: tried to forget it was forty two to ten. It
Speaker 5: was at one point twenty one to ten, and then
Speaker 5: they scored twenty one straight points on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: And it was kind of after vander esh left the
Speaker 3: game where they got those yeah packed on three touchdowns
Speaker 3: and he had the advantage of the Cowboys not having
Speaker 3: a linebacker on the field that second half of that game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they filed one linebacker, and they filed
Speaker 5: suit after that by not putting three linebackers on when
Speaker 5: people are running against you.
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Speaker 3: All right, final segment here of Mixed Shots for a
Speaker 3: Tuesday Cowboys. We'll start their work in Earnest on the
Speaker 3: Saints tomorrow, Saints coming off a forty seven to ten
Speaker 3: win in their season opener against Carolina and any other
Speaker 3: takes you had on your legal pad or from Jerry today.
Speaker 3: One guy that you mentioned that you'd like to talk
Speaker 3: about is Mozzi Smith.
Speaker 5: Yes, it was kind of a the way Cleveland played it,
Speaker 5: it seemed like the Cowboys were in nickel more than
Speaker 5: anything else. Mozzi only had twenty three snaps thirty percent
Speaker 5: of the snaps, and by the way of those big
Speaker 5: guys in the middle, he had twenty three snaps, Jordan
Speaker 5: Phillips had fifteen, and Lynnville Joseph had thirteen. So Mazzi
Speaker 5: had these fis yeah, three And what they were doing
Speaker 5: is with so much nickel, they were moving guys inside
Speaker 5: that you would think are defensive ends. Uh So Marshawn
Speaker 5: Neeland took snaps inside. Of course, osa Odiggy Zoo was inside,
Speaker 5: and even Chauncey Golston was playing inside at times, so
Speaker 5: they were rotating that inside part. But I thought from
Speaker 5: what I saw of Mazzi, uh, he was holding down
Speaker 5: the fort in the middle. He was taking up double
Speaker 5: teams so the lock linebackers could come through. Now he
Speaker 5: didn't have a tackle, he didn't have an assisted tackle,
Speaker 5: but he was causing some disruption in there that other
Speaker 5: people Bennett benefited from. I saw one time he did
Speaker 5: get blown off the line, pushed back like five yards
Speaker 5: and it was a running play. But for the most part,
Speaker 5: I thought he held his own. Now, I don't know
Speaker 5: how other people grade stuff like that, but from what
Speaker 5: I saw and from what Jerry said, that he was
Speaker 5: happy of what he did and felt like he had
Speaker 5: come a long way. So even Mike Zimmer was happy
Speaker 5: with the way Mazzy played. Now we'll see when someone
Speaker 5: ends up running the ball a heck of a lot
Speaker 5: more than Cleveland did.
Speaker 1: Bill.
Speaker 5: I think they only had, if I'm right, nineteen carries,
Speaker 5: and the majority of those ninety three yards were in
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter when the Cowboys are just making sure
Speaker 5: that they didn't hit him for any really big plays.
Speaker 5: For a guy that you know was didn't play basically
Speaker 5: in the off season. He was rehabbing from shoulder surgery,
Speaker 5: was somewhat limited in training camp, but he got a
Speaker 5: lot of snaps. Now, he didn't get to He only
Speaker 5: played I think one preseason game. He got sick before
Speaker 5: one of them. So let's see what goes on. Let's
Speaker 5: not be hasty rushing to conclusions.
Speaker 3: What I liked was the fact that Zimmer had Osa
Speaker 3: on the field for eighty percent of the snaps. Yes,
Speaker 3: OsO Digaezuoa had sixty one snaps, and I was just
Speaker 3: looking here and we'll see if it's eighty percent the
Speaker 3: entire season. At a certain point, playing that position, it's
Speaker 3: difficult to play eighty percent of the snaps, and but
Speaker 3: I like it from the standpoint. I also like the rotation.
Speaker 3: But if there is a fall off from your starter
Speaker 3: to your backup, and if Osa can handle the load
Speaker 3: and not get worn down, he makes such an impact
Speaker 3: in there. And also he's got the versatility where he
Speaker 3: can go outside and rush as well. He's got that
Speaker 3: kind of athleticism where you can move him all around
Speaker 3: the defensive line as well. But just to compare seventeen starts,
Speaker 3: so Osa didn't the last two seasons. In fact, he
Speaker 3: did not miss a game, and last year in dan
Speaker 3: Quinn's defense, he was on the field for sixty percent
Speaker 3: of the snaps six hundred and thirty seven snaps, and
Speaker 3: the year before his second year in the league, fifty
Speaker 3: four percent of the snaps. So you get him up
Speaker 3: to seventy five or eighty percent of the snaps, you're
Speaker 3: going to see a lot more production out of Osa.
Speaker 5: Diggas Zoo and they they now they use Kneeland outside
Speaker 5: some but a lot inside rushing in third down situations,
Speaker 5: He ended up playing forty four snaps fifty eight percent,
Speaker 5: and a lot of that was inside. Same thing with Golston,
Speaker 5: So they were changing up pretty good. And the other
Speaker 5: thing I noticed is they and you saw it in
Speaker 5: the game, but they moved Micah all over the place.
Speaker 5: He was outside, he was inside, he was standing up outside.
Speaker 5: They used a five man line at one point. As
Speaker 5: a matter of fact, when he blocked the pass that
Speaker 5: Kendricks intercepted, they had basically a blitz going on and
Speaker 5: the left the right tackle took the guy inside and Micah.
Speaker 5: No one blocked Micah. He came free and was able
Speaker 5: to bat to pass up in the air and Kendricks
Speaker 5: picked it off. I thought he was awfully good.
Speaker 3: Also, we also heard from the coordinators yesterday afternoon. What
Speaker 3: were your takeaways from what the coordinators were saying?
Speaker 5: Bones wasn't happy, still hat and got over.
Speaker 3: On the field goal.
Speaker 5: The delay a game on the sixty six yard field goal.
Speaker 5: I went back and looked at it, and when he
Speaker 5: talked about it, he said that they held the snap
Speaker 5: up for a late substitution. It wasn't a late substitution.
Speaker 5: They only had ten guys on the field, so they
Speaker 5: were running a guy on the field and the umpire
Speaker 5: stood over the ball and Bone said, he told uh sig, wait, wait,
Speaker 5: hold it, hold it. He didn't get out of there
Speaker 5: until there was four seconds left on the clock, so
Speaker 5: he waited for about ten seconds when they were running
Speaker 5: a guy on the field, their eleventh guy, and held
Speaker 5: the stat that's not his responsibility. It's not like college
Speaker 5: when you run a guy off and then you run
Speaker 5: a eye on because you as an offense substitute, and
Speaker 5: they hold up the snap. They were late getting ten
Speaker 5: guys on the field. That wasn't That wasn't the Cowboys' fault.
Speaker 3: So and they probably deciding whether to put a return
Speaker 3: guy out there.
Speaker 5: Well, and you're right, and then after it was over
Speaker 5: with then five yards then they put the return guy
Speaker 5: back there. So yeah, it was. And the funny thing
Speaker 5: was is the whistle blew and Aubrey figured they froze,
Speaker 5: they were freezing out that they called time out.
Speaker 1: So he was just.
Speaker 5: Getting ready to and it was like, oh, we're getting pedalized.
Speaker 5: And then I understood from seventy one it'd if you
Speaker 5: were desperate, you could have done that.
Speaker 3: But when you're up, what.
Speaker 5: Was it twenty twenty three. No sense taking a chance
Speaker 5: that it's short and all you got his offensive line trying.
Speaker 3: To many of us thought you don't want an Auburn Alabama.
Speaker 3: Did happen? But McCarthy, of course, when you have that
Speaker 3: much experience, he had another one, right, I had one
Speaker 3: that happened against him. I think it was against the Packers.
Speaker 3: I don't remember the player he mentioned.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 3: That he had a flash of that and he said, okay, well.
Speaker 5: Just yeah and and understood.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: So bones was that Zim was mostly pleased with how
Speaker 5: the defense played. I thought that, Uh, Jerry, it's like
Speaker 5: the things he said on Kayln Carson. I think it
Speaker 5: was right on. I mean, if you think about what
Speaker 5: was everybody talking about, how are the Cowboys going to
Speaker 5: stop a Mari Cooper? You know, and I've always said
Speaker 5: the way you stop a wide receiver is get pressure
Speaker 5: on the quarterback. Well the Cowboys did that. Cooper caught
Speaker 5: past number one that first series. He only caught one
Speaker 5: more pass the entire game. And it wasn't just you know,
Speaker 5: up against Carson's Diggs had him. But Jerry's quote on Carson,
Speaker 5: who played sixty of the seventy two snaps. He said,
Speaker 5: I couldn't have drawn it up any better. For Carson,
Speaker 5: he just looked like he's been out there for years.
Speaker 3: He looked the part boy.
Speaker 5: He really played well, and when you consider everything, he
Speaker 5: was good as anything I've seen for a first game
Speaker 5: in the NFL, you know, he I mean, they had
Speaker 5: a nice play on the goal line for the touchdown.
Speaker 5: They had two guys kind of stacked and he had
Speaker 5: to take the outside guy, and as quick as it was,
Speaker 5: he wasn't close enough. But other than that, I thought
Speaker 5: he played well. Now what happens this coming week against
Speaker 5: a team that put up forty seven points in the
Speaker 5: season opener.
Speaker 3: And for all the rookies, okay, you there's a sigh
Speaker 3: of relief. Oh I got the first one out of
Speaker 3: the way, right. Well, they keep coming at you a
Speaker 3: week after week now, and you've got to keep doing
Speaker 3: it over and over and over again.
Speaker 5: Well, Jerry was big on the young guys, and he
Speaker 5: keeps saying it, there's young guys, not just rookies, but
Speaker 5: guys from last year. They didn't play enough. He keeps
Speaker 5: saying that. I've heard him say it three or four
Speaker 5: but it's true. I think the Cowboys have a big
Speaker 5: advantage over other teams in this league because of the
Speaker 5: continuity on this coaching staff, and this coaching staff going
Speaker 5: into the fifth year. You know, the scouting department, There's
Speaker 5: been continuity for decades here, but for the scouts to
Speaker 5: understand what fits into the scheme and so forth, and
Speaker 5: even with a guy like Mike Zimmer, they know what
Speaker 5: Zimmer's all about. There's even though it's been since two
Speaker 5: thousand and six and s he was here, they all know, Okay,
Speaker 5: that's what Zimmer wants in a player, and so when
Speaker 5: they go scout at Kayln Carson, they know he fits
Speaker 5: Zim or a Leah Foul or a Niland and those types.
Speaker 5: But I think it gives him a huge advantage, and
Speaker 5: it was it was never more apparent than against a
Speaker 5: Cleveland team that gave away the ranch to sign Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 5: meaning the draft ranch and not having first round draft
Speaker 5: picks the last three years, plus three mid round draft picks,
Speaker 5: third or fourth round picks each of those years too.
Speaker 5: It just flew off the page at you how many
Speaker 5: young players the Cowboys have on their roster making plays
Speaker 5: in their first NFL game compared to what the Browns
Speaker 5: were able to try out there, and it's and you
Speaker 5: can count first year player Demarvian Overshown, right, which was
Speaker 5: rather amazing what he was able to do coming off
Speaker 5: that torn acl in his first think about it. It
Speaker 5: was his first football game since the last game of
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty two season for Texas.
Speaker 3: And they got something there. No, there's no doubt. I mean,
Speaker 3: his speed on the field is apparent from this first blush.
Speaker 5: I mean, go ask to Sean Watson because I'm sure
Speaker 5: he didn't expect that guy to come shooting out of
Speaker 5: a canyon on that sack and the tackle for.
Speaker 3: Loss that he had early in the game as well, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, and we saw it in the preseason. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's the preseason. Well, now we're seeing it in regular
Speaker 3: season games. And I think that they're playing perfectly as
Speaker 3: the nickel linebacker because that just plays to his strength.
Speaker 5: And they were using him to spy to yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: and you got to if you've gotta have somebody that spy,
Speaker 5: you got to be able to run with the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Right, So here's the test for him.
Speaker 5: Yes, in two weeks, yep, Lamar Jackson, Yes, yes, but
Speaker 5: let's not fast forward too fast.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, we will fast forward to tomorrow when Everson
Speaker 3: Walls will tell us about his golf game, and we
Speaker 3: will turn our attention to the New Orleans Saints. We'll
Speaker 3: see you again tomorrow and noon here on mix.
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