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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Are you a real practicing witch? Yes? I am?

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Speaker 1: How did that happen? It's been uh, it's been a

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Speaker 1: I've always been drawn to to witchcraft and miss and

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Speaker 1: sandwitch craft. Now, being a witch, does that mean you're

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Speaker 1: And where I am today without ceremonial magic and other

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Speaker 1: kinds of hierarchies. Now you sound like a good witch.

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Speaker 1: sound like you're that way. I like to consider myself

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Speaker 1: an effective which I think that's the best label. Now,

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Speaker 1: Do you do curses? I do all kinds of work.

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Speaker 1: I believe that magic is energy and everything has positive

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Speaker 1: I have some people abused witchcraft, Laura. I think some

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