1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it's Lyle. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 2: Get this. 3 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm coming to over forty cities across the United States, 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: the UK, Europe, and Australia to do this here Therapy 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Gecko Podcast Live. These shows will involve bringing folks from 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: the audience up on stage to talk to a gecko 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: about whatever they want, just like we do on the podcast. 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: The shows are completely unplanned, completely unpredictable, and they will 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. So if you're a fan 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: of the podcast, you should definitely come out. 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You ever 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: played the Sonic the Hedgehog games? 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: Oh, hey, Shadow, I have, but my kids do and 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: my nephews do. 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: Well. Well, Well, what's going on, Shadow? How can I 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: get you today? 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 3: Well, first, I want to tell you I'm forty seven 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: years old and I'm a mom of seven and one 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: of my oldest sons turned me on to you, and 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: now I am obsessed. All right, listen to you Almost 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: every I got back to the older shows. I listened 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: to you, and I fall asleep. You are You're better 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 3: than Fraser any day. If you know that. 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Round, Well, I appreciate that. I do know that reference. 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: I've never actually seen an episode of Fraser, but I 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: know it's about well, Fraser is a real I mean, 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I know he's Fraser is not a real person, but 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: in the he's a real therapist canonically correct. 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, okay. 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that. I'll have to watch Frasier now. 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: But anyway, my son said I needed to call you, 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: So if you shout out say hi Caleb for me, 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: that'd be great. So reason is lately. 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead, it's okay. 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: The last couple of callers you've had the last shows. 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: There was a dude that went to a strip club 46 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 3: with his mom and a gal that was doing drugs 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: with their kids, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: have both of these things with my kids. 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: M Yeah, there was a a podcast. There was there 50 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: There was a podcast with the kid who went to 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: the strip club with his mom. And then there was 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: that call with the girl whose mom was she was 53 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: going to raves with her. 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: Yes, now I don't do the raves, but I four 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: twenty and I've tripped with my kids. 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: You have seven kids? When you're tripping with all seven 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: of your kids, or you're like, oh my god, I 58 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: have seven kids. These are like the doors. 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: Sometimes feels like the doors. 60 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Ye, you're like snow white. 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: I've got very fair skin and very dark hair, so yeah, 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: I just I don't like talk to birds, but I 63 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: have lots of cats and dogs. I could be snow white. 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: So when you say you trip with your kids, do 65 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: you like trip do all? Is it you and all 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: seven of them? 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: No? 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: They very in ages. My oldest is twenty eight and 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: then I've got a twenty six year old and my 70 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: youngest is ten. 71 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Wow are they all from the same dude? 72 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Five of them are from the same dude. But he's 73 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: in prison now for the next seven years. 74 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: Are you still with him? 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: No? Okay, we've been, of course now for five years. 76 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean I have thousands of questions for 77 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: you about everything, But is there a I feel like 78 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: you came into this with a particular aspect that you 79 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, and I want to start there 80 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: if if my read. 81 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: Is correct, well, I can't tell if I'm a really 82 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: cool mom or a really bad mom. 83 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: M Okay, tell me. Tell me more about your thought 84 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: process with this. 85 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: It's just it's very untraditional. I don't know of a 86 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: lot of other moms do the things like this with 87 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: their kids, but it seems like it's really brought me 88 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: closer to them. 89 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: Give me an example of something that you can't tell 90 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: if this thing makes you a cool mom or a 91 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: bad mom. 92 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, like I said, my husband's in prison for 93 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 3: seven years. When he was being investigated, child Protective Services 94 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: had come in and removed my kids, and I've suffered 95 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: from a mental illness all my life, and originally they 96 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: were telling me I couldn't have my kids back because 97 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: of that, and it took me five years, but I 98 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: finally got my kids back. 99 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: I never gave up. 100 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 3: So that's like what really weighs heavy on me because 101 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: I've lost all this time with them. I feel like 102 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: I've got to get it back somehow. 103 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So so to that, to that point, do you 104 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: do you feel like, well, okay, so, so, like I said, 105 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: give me, give me an example of of something that 106 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: you do with your kids or something at all that 107 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: that makes you feel like where you can't tell if 108 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: this thing makes you feel like you're a bad mom 109 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: or a cool mom. Give you give me an example 110 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: of some. 111 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 3: Well, like, for instance, you know, for twenty with my kids, 112 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: most of them, I've let them spoke with me even 113 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: though you know, they're not twenty one yet at the time, 114 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: it's not legal here where I'm at, so I kind 115 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: of like and enabling them to break all. 116 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: M h m hm, how will iw will like are 117 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: they at least eighteen. 118 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 4: One? 119 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: Is? 120 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that I smoke with A is eighteen now my 121 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: fifteen year old, I won't let him smoke. 122 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: With us yet, Okay, okay, that's good. Well, I you know, 123 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't know if there 124 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: is an objective sort of scoring scaling system of motherhood 125 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: because well, because listen a lot. I mean it's like 126 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: with alcohol, right, Like, there's the theory that you know, 127 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: if you're the mom that lets the kids have the 128 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: parties in their house and you can control it and 129 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: you let them do it. I mean when I'm we're 130 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: not even talking about teenagers. We're talking about you know, 131 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: you know your kids are over the age of eighteen, 132 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: and if you let them control it, there is the 133 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: theory that okay, you know, there'll be a little bit 134 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: less delinquency or uh you know, bad bad shit going 135 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: on if you let them kind of run wild with it. 136 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: At least it's in a controlled environment. That's a school 137 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: of thoughts. That's legitimate theory. 138 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: Into it, because at least I know what they're doing 139 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: if they're in my house and they're not out around 140 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: other friends' houses doing stuff and you know, getting into 141 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: trouble and winding up in prison someday themselves. 142 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like I said, it's a legitimate school of 143 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: thought to you know, if you're having the party at 144 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: your house, the party's under control, and you know they're 145 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: not doing fucking meth or stab at each other or 146 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: whatever else could be going on. 147 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: Exactly, you know, and hopefully you know, I can teach 148 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: them how to do it safely. You know, like, hey, 149 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 3: you don't take stuff from kids at school because there's 150 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: metanyl going around, so you know, you do this in 151 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: my house, but. 152 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: Nowhere else there are meth or pot. 153 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: We're talking about pot. But the whole fetanyl thing, you know, 154 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: has me scared. You know you have Yeah, of course 155 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: ask your kid for they gave you your shot and 156 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: the next thing, you know, you got a dead kid. 157 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well, well let's talk about let's talk about this. 158 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: What do you think makes somebody a good mother? 159 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: I wish I knew they need to have like these 160 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: manuals the day you find out that you're pregnant, these. 161 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 4: Dudes and don'ts. 162 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: But my mom is absolutely so. I've just like done 163 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: everything completely opposite of what she ever did. 164 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: Why why if you you obviously don't have to talk 165 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: about anything, you know what I talk about. But why 166 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: is your mom horrible? 167 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: She has just owned me three times in the past, 168 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: and when she just owns me, she makes like the 169 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: whole entire family just own me. And the last time 170 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: just own me is because I'm bye. So I had 171 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 3: a girlfriend and she just like, no, I'm not talking 172 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: to you ever again, and nobody else can either. 173 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hm. 174 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: Hm. 175 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: So I try and be like open with my kids. 176 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: Mm hm So. I mean, look, by some bye bye, 177 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: by some legitimate definitions, you could say, at bare minimum 178 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: a good mother probably probably probably the best most important 179 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: thing that you could do is give a ship and 180 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: clearly you and that and clearly that you do clearly 181 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: the giving, be it, be it being present in your 182 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: children's lives and caring about their well being is uh. 183 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think could be universally agreed upon as 184 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: the bare minimum of being a good mother. And it 185 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: sounds as though you, you, uh, very very clearly are 186 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: those two things, I hope. So what gives you doubts? 187 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: Like you said, losing my kids, you know, and like 188 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: even right now too, I don't have two of my 189 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: girls back because they were placed with my ex husband's girlfriend, 190 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: and I have to pay one hundred and twenty dollars 191 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: a month just to see them for two hours. So 192 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: that really really weighs on me because I only got 193 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 3: like half of them back and probably no chance of 194 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: getting the other two back because I don't make enough 195 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: money to go to court. I feel like, no matter 196 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: what I'm doing, I'm letting my kids down. 197 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: How old are the two kids that you have to 198 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: what is it like you pay one hundred and twenty 199 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: dollars a month in child support and then you can 200 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,479 Speaker 1: see them. 201 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: It's supervised visitations. I've had supervised visitations with him for 202 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: the last five years. 203 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: Okay, again, you don't you don't feel like you have 204 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: to go into any more detail than you feel comfortable 205 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: going into. But do you why why is it supervised? 206 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: Basically because the charges against my husband and why ex 207 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 3: husband and why he's in federal prison was because he 208 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: had child porn on his computer and yeah, and with 209 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: me having a mental illness there they I don't know. 210 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: I just felt like CPS was against me from day one. 211 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 3: And I don't know if being half gay has anything 212 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: to do with it. Because during one of my visits 213 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: is here, we had bedbugs and the boys had went 214 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: to go in the back bedroom and I told them, no, 215 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: you can't go in there because I didn't want them 216 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: taking the bed bugs to their foster family. So it 217 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: was wrote down on the report that I had sexual 218 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: paraphernalia in my bedroom. What out like, Yeah, seriously. 219 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, first of all, look, I I 220 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: mean fucking Jesus Christ, I mean shadow that for for 221 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: your for the father of your children to be arrested 222 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: for that, and then you having to pick up the 223 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: pieces I mean, I hope, I hope, I hope you 224 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: can recognize that that's a lot. It is. 225 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: It's been a nightmare trying to get them back. 226 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmmm. 227 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: Gone everywhere. I can go to three lawyers to try 228 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: and get help. There's not enough money in the state. Callers. 229 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: You know, my mom, and he was telling me call 230 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 3: doctor Phil, call doctor Phill. 231 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: I don't want to call doctor Phil. 232 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: Don't call doctor Phil. 233 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: He's a real sayer. 234 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have no idea what you just said. 235 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: But uh, apparently I don't know anything about doctor Phil. 236 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: But okay, well, so listen, if we could go back 237 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: for a second to this, this this wrestling with whether 238 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: or not you're a good mother, I guess if we 239 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: could take a second to understand the fact that, like 240 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: you're trying to be a good mother in a crazy circumstance. Yes, 241 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean you're you're like, like you know, somebody who's 242 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: who's whose husband? Uh, the father of the children was not, 243 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, arrested for something like that. Uh. It would 244 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: also be struggling to be a mother because, as you say, 245 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: there is no handbook to do it, and so you're 246 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: taking the thing that is already incredibly difficult, and is 247 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, in this situation like ten times more difficult. 248 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: So I hope you recognize that you're you know, you're 249 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: you're you're up against you you're doing the best you 250 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: can going up against a lot. And also I'm sure 251 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: that that was fucking crazy hard on your kids and 252 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: for you to be there for them in the face 253 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: of all of that. I mean, I hope you can 254 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: give yourself some credit for that. 255 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: I'm trying to. But I've made a lot of bad decisions, 256 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: like being with this a hole in the first place. 257 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: You know, it makes you wonder like your decision making skill. 258 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: I mean, if I wasn't with him, I wouldn't have 259 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: five of my kids. So I'm glad now that I was. 260 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: But you know, my first husband, I found him in 261 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: bed with his twelve year old cousin when we were 262 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: in Kentucky. It's like, what and the hell why do 263 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: I He's. 264 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: Meant, Jesus Christ, are you with anyone now? 265 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: No? 266 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 4: I'm not. 267 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, tell me more about like this, your like 268 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: living situation. Do you do you? You have five kids 269 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: and how many of them still live with you? 270 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: Technically three of them do. My twenty six year old 271 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: Caleb had moved in with me about six months ago. 272 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: And I have one son who's eighteen that lives with me. 273 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: He's still in high school. And I have my fifteen 274 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: year old son. 275 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: Okay, hmm. And what are the kids who are out 276 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: in the world, what do they do? Do they go 277 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: to school or have jobs? 278 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: Caleb has a job. Yeah, and he just recently got 279 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 3: into a new relationship, which is really great because he 280 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: was heartbroken over a friendship that just didn't work out right. 281 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: And like I said, the eighteen year old is still 282 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: is sophomore in high school, no junior, and you know, 283 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: so we got a year and a half more before 284 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 3: he graduates. My one daughter, she's twenty something. She's mad 285 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: at me and won't talk to me. But she's going 286 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: to school to be a therapist herself. 287 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: Okay. 288 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 3: And I was going to college a therapist, but I 289 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: decided I don't like people, so I quit. 290 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: By the way, I should have brought this up earlier 291 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: in this conversation that I am doing right now. But 292 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: have you had the ability to see a real therapist 293 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: to talk about all of this stuff? 294 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 295 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: I have been in therapy almost for the last ten 296 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 3: to fifteen years. 297 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm very curious what I mean. This is a ton. 298 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a ton of just totally fucked 299 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: up stuff. I'm very curious. What is your real therapist 300 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: told you or helped you with or how have what 301 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: has their feedback been in regards to all the stuff 302 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. 303 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 3: Well, she has been great. There's been times where I've 304 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 3: called her and I'm just like, I can't breathe. I 305 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: feel like I'm coming apart at the scenes. I can't 306 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: do this anymore. And she was always very sympathetic, like, yeah, 307 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: you know, this is very fucked up, and you can 308 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: do it. I got a tattoo on my arm that 309 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: has just breathe now. But she's been great every step 310 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: of the way. Has cried with me. Is called GPS's 311 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: lawyer to say, hey, you know this, shiit ain't right. 312 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 3: And the day that I gave up and decided, you 313 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: know what, I'm never going to get my kids back, 314 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: and that's okay because I can still be a mom 315 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: and I can parent them from AFAR. Suicide is not 316 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 3: an option because it's going to be so much worse 317 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: on them. A week later, it was around Mother's Day 318 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: and my birthday. I got to call my son, my 319 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 3: who's now eighteen year old son. Then he was fifteen? 320 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: Who is coming home? 321 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 4: Sixteen? 322 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: No? So she was great on, you know, keeping me 323 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: going and just giving me somebody to talk to. 324 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: Who are you with? By the way, I here's somebody talking. 325 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: That's my eighteen year old. 326 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one that showed you my show. 327 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 3: No, that one is at work. But but yeah, you 328 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 3: could talk to the eighteen year old. 329 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me talk to him. 330 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 4: This is Aiden, the eighteen year old. 331 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: Hi Aiden? How you doing, man? Hi Aiden? How you doing? 332 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 5: Man? 333 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm hanging out with my mother and I'm 334 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: just freaking out that she's talking to you. 335 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: Why are you freaking out? 336 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 4: Because something like this never happens to us? Basically? 337 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: Soundn't like what. 338 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 4: Talking to somebody live? Basically Yeah, because I'm always in 339 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: my womb watching YouTube or TikTok or whatever, and I'm 340 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 4: always daydreaming about meeting someone with like a channel and 341 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 4: I get it. 342 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well uh well, Aiden, it's it's nice to 343 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: meet you too. 344 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: Man. 345 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: What what are you? What are you into? A? Are you? 346 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: Like? 347 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: Are you in fucking are you in college or like, 348 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: what do you? 349 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: What do you? 350 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: What do you do with your life? 351 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 4: Well, right now, as my mom previous said, I'm in 352 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: high school and I have this year and then next 353 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 4: year to finish, and I'm looking at bugger king at 354 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: the moment, it's all right. It's moments and the things 355 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: I really like. Oh, fin Nights of thready. It's a 356 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: hood game. If you don't know. 357 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: Mh. 358 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm familiar with five. I've never played it because I'm 359 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't like jump scares and stuff, but I'm familiar 360 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: with it. 361 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean neither, but I absolutely love the story 362 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 4: they're going with and I can't wait until the movie 363 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: comes out. 364 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: Well, you've never played it, but you you said it's 365 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: one of the things you're in too. 366 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 4: Test. Actually, yes, But I do have this newer one 367 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: for the PlayStation over there. I played it the other 368 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 4: day m hm. But the games I haven't played. I 369 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 4: just played the newer one. 370 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 3: He doesn't like the jump scares? 371 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, do that doesn't doesn't the newer one have? 372 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: The newer one probably has like more intense jump scares, 373 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: does it not? 374 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 4: Sometimes it depends? 375 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: Okay, what what else? What else do you like. 376 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 4: Well, as I said, I anything with a good storyline. Lately, 377 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 4: me and my younger brother been playing some Foot Night 378 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: and uh, I hate to admit it, but I spent 379 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 4: a lot of money on that game, which Bobby's going 380 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 4: to die in twenty years or so. Then I have 381 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: the whole entire collection of I say, he's the wrong 382 00:22:54,840 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: bunch of events with one sign book and a photo 383 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 4: of Tim signing it of Lemony Snickets. 384 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: Lemony Snicket, you have a way you have a photo 385 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: of Lemony Snicket signing your Lemony Snicket book. 386 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 4: Yes, nice, and he doesn't like the photos taken, so 387 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: it's pretty rare. 388 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: That's great. That's so crazy man, Lemony Snicket. It's cool. 389 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: He's still doing his thing. Lemony Snickett was fuck? When 390 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: did that? When did that? When was I reading that? Ship? 391 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: That was? 392 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: Like that movie came out when I was in elementary school. 393 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: I will on a letter to Netflix try and trying 394 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 4: to get them to put the series on DVD so 395 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 4: I could collect them, because I'm a big collector. 396 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: What do you what all do you collect? Well? 397 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 4: Right now I have a whole bunch of action figures 398 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: of financial rereadys. I'm missing a couple. I have four 399 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 4: different action figures of AVATARLL. I have a go To 400 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: Action figure and a foot Night Action figure, and then 401 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: I have a hundred brandom stuff playing and around. 402 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: Is there a what? What is what? What's kind of 403 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: like your your golden goose? 404 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: Like? 405 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: Is there a maybe this is a broadcast? Sorry? Go ahead? 406 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 407 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 4: I uh so, my mom told you how I was 408 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: in Fostercan all that. So one day a little bit, 409 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: I was at a placement, okay for Christmas, and I 410 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: asked for a Space Layer set. I thought I was 411 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: going to get like a twenty thirty dollars one. No, 412 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 4: this church gives me the Apollo eleven sets and it 413 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: was the biggest lego set I've ever have. I'm just 414 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: still seeking about it. I even have Apollo twelve, fourteen, 415 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 4: fourteen cups up there you have McDonald's and the why. 416 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: Is that Apollo? Is that a is it like a 417 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: like a spaceship or something? 418 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 4: Yeah? Follow eleven. It's like, let me check one of 419 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 4: the data. 420 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 3: You know, don't worry, don't. 421 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 4: Worry about. 422 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: What's uh ad what I'm curious. So, so I know 423 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: you're you're a collector. I know you're working at Burking. 424 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: I know that you. Yeah, you're you're into five nights 425 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: at Freddy's. Do you have like what are your what 426 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: are your what are your dreams for the future? 427 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: Man? 428 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, Honestly, at this point, there's so many dreams, like 429 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: one being a YouTuber, then uh having my own company, 430 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 4: like a big company that reinvents old tech and bring 431 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: new tech together. 432 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 6: Mm hmm. 433 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: What do you what do you what do you want 434 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: to make YouTube videos about? 435 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 4: Well, there's been different things I've been doing. I stopped 436 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 4: youtubing for a little while, but the last video was 437 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 4: something about Fortnite with me and my brother hanging around. Honestly, 438 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 4: if I had the popular equipment, I'll probably do it more. 439 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: But now I'm starting to think of doing a little 440 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 4: bit of stop motion to a a couple of my 441 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 4: favorite songs. 442 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I've done that before. What what 443 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: what song do you want to do stop motion too? 444 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: Well, there's a couple of CIGI five, he's a YouTuber singer. 445 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 4: He does a bunch of random stuff. But there's a 446 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: couple of that I want to do, and one of 447 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: them is Kryptonite. I feel like that one would be 448 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 4: a good one with stop motion mm hmm. 449 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: And do you uh do you do you do you 450 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: want to plug your YouTube channel? What? What do you want? 451 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: Do you want to tell us what it is so 452 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: people can subscribe if they want to find it. 453 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's kind of paul because I only have 454 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 4: twenty subscribers. But the original name was the King. Then 455 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: after a little bit more digging, I came across someone 456 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 4: else named that, so I change it to the NPC 457 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 4: King because half the time I feel like an MPC 458 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 4: minding my own business. 459 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: Oh wait, okay, actually hold on a lot. I wanna, 460 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: I wanna, I wanna. It's just just so everyone knows 461 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: if they want to subscribe it as at YouTube dot com, 462 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: slash at the Underscore NPC Underscore King. 463 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 4: All right, yeah for some reason, but doing this stupid 464 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 4: thing where they have the at to make it easier 465 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: to find people for someone. 466 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: I've seen that. Well listen, man, Yeah, go check out 467 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: at Underscore. Go check out at the Underscore NPC Underscore King. 468 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: So well, listen man. So huh, I'm trying to think 469 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: what else I wanna. I want to ask you guys, 470 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: how's how's hanging out with with your mom? 471 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 4: It's pretty cool because I'm technically still a teenager, so 472 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: I still like to hide hide away in my room 473 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 4: most of the time. But I set up my PlayStation 474 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: out in the living room because for some odd reason, 475 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: the internet's better out here. 476 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Do you do you ever play PlayStation with 477 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 1: your mom? 478 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: Uh? 479 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 4: No, but she does play the Xbox, and I do 480 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: play Xbox with her. Yeah. One of her favorite games 481 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 4: is colored due to the infinite Warfare. I think a 482 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 4: zombie mode. 483 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, hm hmm. What's what's your relationship like with 484 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: your siblings? 485 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: My siblings? Well, I haven't seen my two younger sisters 486 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: and ages. My older sister uh, honestly, she's mad at 487 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: me for some odd reason. And then I have another 488 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 4: one staycy she comes and goes. And then because as 489 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 4: my mom said, my brother, my two other brothers are 490 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 4: living here. And then another brother from my dad's side 491 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 4: that's not related to my mom is actually living not 492 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: too far away from her, and he stops by once 493 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 4: in a while, but he's living his own life. M 494 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: h m hmm. 495 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: That's cool. Mary. Do you do you are you feeling 496 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: happy and good about life in general and hanging out? 497 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: The one thing that couldn't make it better is if 498 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: I actually had a gil Yeah? 499 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: Why yeah, I hear your mom. I hear your mom laughing. 500 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: Why why is she laughing? 501 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 4: Because I'm pretty sure I give him the bays hook. 502 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Huh do you do you talk to her about this? 503 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: But yeah, I do? And would you? 504 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: Sayscriber. 505 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, Sampey Getcko for saying that. Now 506 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: I got eighty five. 507 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: My pleasure. Man, I hope you make some videos for 508 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: these folks to check out. 509 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: I will definitely make one. 510 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, please do, please do. Okay, so you you're you're 511 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: looking sorry say that again? 512 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: Sorry, Well, I was talking to my mom. 513 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: He's gonna make a video about talking the lyle. 514 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: That would be funny. Man, so so so shadow what 515 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: what uh? Have you given your son any any advice 516 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: on how how he can get a girlfriend? 517 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: I've tried. 518 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 4: I'm an end of it. I really don't like getting 519 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 4: out much. M hm. That's fine, end of it. No, 520 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: something like that. 521 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: But I try and be encouraging, like, hey, you know, 522 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: just talk to her, say hi and get to know, 523 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: or don't come on too strong, you know, don't start 524 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: drooling on her or nothing, and just be a good guy, 525 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: and they're the right one when it's time, will find 526 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: her away on your path. 527 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I, uh, this time, when I was living 528 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: with my father, there was this one goal. I had 529 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 4: an ion, But since a lot of stuff happened, like 530 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: five six years ago, honestly I have not seen this 531 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 4: one goal A shoot play shoe. Shoe was also into me, 532 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: but honestly, I think that ship is long shaled. 533 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well, well, listen, here's the thing. You're only eighteen, 534 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: so you've all you have a you have a long 535 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: life ahead of you to find uh find a romantic partner. 536 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: Hey, that's what everybody's done, saying single life ain't so bad. 537 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: You don't have to put up with a bunch of bs. 538 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 539 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeh m hm. So so Shadow, Shadow want, 540 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: by the way, has your son been been in says 541 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: Aiden been in the room the whole time we've been talking. 542 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: Pretty much. 543 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been here. 544 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: The phone call mm hmmm, why did know? I kind 545 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: of should I kind of want to talk, you know, 546 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: I guess before we go, I kind of wanted to 547 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: talk more about this this like uh struggle that you're 548 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: having about whether whether or not you you feel like 549 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: you're a good mom. And uh, I'll say this, aiden 550 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: seems like a pretty, you know, nice happy kid. I 551 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: feel like that's that's pretty. That's pretty pretty indicative of 552 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: of you being a good mom. 553 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: I hope. 554 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 6: So. 555 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I will feel good when they're all grown up. 556 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what they do in life, what kind 557 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: of career that they have, as long as they find 558 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: something that makes them feel good, whatever that is. 559 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: Mm hm m hmm. 560 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: I think that's good. And also, you know, oh, sorry, 561 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: were you guys gonna say? 562 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: Between you and me, my mom and father both try 563 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 4: to off themself several times, and the several times has 564 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: not worked. So I feel like one of us kids 565 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 4: are here for a reason. And I don't know if 566 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: you owe a believer in God. He's not, Oh you're not. Well, 567 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: so I'm not bad, but I feel like I'm here 568 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: for a reason. I just haven't found it yet. 569 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: Hm hm hmm. Well listen, I you were what were 570 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: you about to say about God? 571 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying I feel like He put me 572 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: here for a reason. 573 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmmm mm hm. 574 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: Hm. 575 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: Well, look, I I want to look. I think both 576 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: of you are very lovely people. And it sounds like 577 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: both of you have have It sounds like both of 578 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: you have have really been through a lot. But uh, 579 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: despite all of that, have you know compassion and happy 580 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: spirits and the desire to do good by each other 581 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: and buy other people and by yourselves? And I think 582 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: that says a lot. Yeah, I hope. 583 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 3: So. My life is just dedicated to my kids right now, 584 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 3: when they're all grown up and moved out, I don't 585 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 3: know what I'm gonna do with myself looking forward to 586 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: being a grandma. 587 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 4: Someday, which I'm hoping to provide that for you. 588 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, just live life, live it for the moment, just 589 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 3: see what comes next. 590 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: Well, listen, Is there anything else that you guys want 591 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go? 592 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 3: Nope, I don't think so. I just I think that 593 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 3: you are very handsome, even in the green paint lyle. 594 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: Thank you kindly, I appreciate that shadow eat And anything 595 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: else you want to say with the people of the 596 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: computer before we go, it doesn't have to also be 597 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: about how handsome I am. 598 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 5: And all I have to say is thank you for 599 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 5: letting me be a part of this and thanks for 600 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 5: the last time I checked, and my brother check was 601 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 5: one ten subscribers, So thank you all for checking me out. 602 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 4: I guess. 603 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 3: I guess I would end it that, you know, if 604 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 3: you're a parent, go hug your kids tonight because you 605 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 3: don't know what's coming tomorrow. 606 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: Thank you guys very very much for being on my 607 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: show and wishing both of you guys the best of luck. 608 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 3: Hopefully we're coming to your live show in Indy. 609 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: So oh shit, well, holy shit, please if you come 610 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: to my live show in Indy, you know, fucking let 611 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: me know. Well, I we'll take a pic. 612 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 3: Patreon on the night, so I will send you a 613 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 3: message when we get the tickets. 614 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: Beautiful. Hey you guys, take care. 615 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 2: You do. 616 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 3: Live along to Prosper. 617 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 4: Thanks for having us. 618 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: Bye. Damn what sweet folks. I mean, I I have 619 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: so many thoughts. I mean, I I kind of said 620 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: what I wanted to say to them already, but it 621 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: is like, ah, you know, I'm thinking, I'm I have 622 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts. First of all, the mom shadow 623 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: sounded like she had from the bats a kind of 624 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: unfortunate hand of cards. 625 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 4: You know. 626 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: She was talking about how her her mom was fucking 627 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: disowned her and was not great to her. And then 628 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: she she starts dating this guy and he fucking sleeps 629 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: with his kid cousin, and that's fucked. And then she 630 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: has kids with these other guys and he does so 631 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: think it's it's it's fucked. And you know, just just 632 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, she she just she just fucking this 633 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: this this woman is just dealing with with so much 634 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: and on top of the fact that having five children 635 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: is incredibly difficult. And I don't know, I feel her. 636 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: I feel her pain and in dealing with all of 637 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: those things. And again to be dealing with all of 638 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: that and to still be able to be there for 639 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: your kids and give a ship, I mean, it's a lot. 640 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: It's a lot. I hope she knows it's a lot. 641 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: And like I, Aiden was, he's a nice kid. He's 642 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: a nice guy, you know. She and they seemed like 643 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: they had a good relationship, and uh, I don't know, 644 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just wishing a lot of uh compassion 645 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: to those those people. They were good people. Shout out. 646 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: Shout out to Shadows, Shout out to Aiden. Check go 647 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 1: check out YouTube dot com, slash at the Underscore NPC 648 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: Underscore King. I'm excited to see what he uh, what 649 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: he cooks up? Okay, anything else I want to say 650 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: about that? I think we're good. What a call? What 651 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: a call? 652 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 4: Hello? 653 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: Hi, how can I get you today? Uh? 654 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 6: I kind of wanted to tell you about a kind 655 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 6: of a secret I've been keeping from a lot of 656 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 6: people in regards to my old job. 657 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it? 658 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 6: So this to be super honous it to you. I 659 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 6: got fired from my father in law's company because I 660 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 6: wanted to give the employees benefits. 661 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: YouTube the whole team that you wanted to give the employees' benefits, 662 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: and then he fired you. 663 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, because it kind of became like he took it 664 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 6: like as a challenge of powers. And I got really 665 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 6: thrown off because I was like, dude, I'm trying to, 666 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 6: you know, get you some tax write offs here through 667 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 6: you know, giving some employees benefits, right, making everybody's quality 668 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 6: life a little bit better. I thought I would bring 669 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 6: everybody's mood up because our production and quality started tinking 670 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 6: really really bad, and we worked with really big names 671 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 6: and like the electronics companies, like the electronics world. So 672 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 6: I thought this was like a you know, like a 673 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 6: good way of boosting up morale. So I kind of 674 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 6: want to know what you're You know, if you were 675 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 6: in the same position, do you think you might have 676 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 6: reacted the same? 677 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: Well, what is it that you did to react? I mean, 678 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: it says here, I'm gonna just say what it says. 679 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: It says that you have ever since you left this job, 680 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: you have been using the company credit card to buy things. 681 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 6: Yes, but I've using it to buy things that I 682 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,959 Speaker 6: think isn't that bad. 683 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: Okay, you've been using it to buy things you think 684 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: aren't that bad. Now I want to know, aren't you 685 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: afraid that they are going that you're going to get 686 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: caught doing this? 687 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 6: To be honest, no, I was the accountant and I 688 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 6: was literally finding so much money that was going out 689 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 6: of the company for bullshit reasons. So I really don't 690 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 6: think fifty dollars a month is ever going to be noticed, 691 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 6: because you know, five thousand at a time was never noticed, 692 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 6: ten thousand at a time was never noticed. And it 693 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 6: wasn't money that I took out, just you know, money 694 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 6: spent on bs, you know, like things you never used, 695 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 6: machines we never used, like a sawmill, or like what's 696 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 6: it called. I'm trying to think of the name, you know, 697 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 6: like like a bandsaw there you go, like, imagine like 698 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 6: a bandsaw for your up. It's brand new, it's saran wrapped, 699 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 6: never gets to us, and it gets thrown in the back. 700 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 6: And because you live here in California now, the sun 701 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 6: is just gets ruined. A brand new machine in the 702 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 6: back of the lot goes to waste. 703 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: Now, what are you buying with this credit card? 704 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 6: So the first things I bought was actually a sticker 705 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 6: printer because my wife really wanted to start making stickers. 706 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: Okay, and your how long have you been buying things 707 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: with the sticker maker? How long have you been buying 708 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: things with the company card in general? 709 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: Oh? 710 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 6: My god, since I got fired, it's probably been about 711 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 6: like two three months ago. 712 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: Okay, are you still buying things with it? 713 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 6: Recently? I kind of started feeling bad and I haven't 714 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 6: found anything that really like gave me that thrill, because 715 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 6: the last things I bought were some first edition Jack 716 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 6: Carowac books that I've always wanted to buy, and after that, 717 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 6: I just kind of it just, you know, the the 718 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 6: throw kind of just died for me. Mhm. 719 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: So what's your relationship like with your father in law now? 720 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: Do you still talk to him? 721 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: No. 722 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 6: The last time we spoke was when he fired me, 723 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 6: and he said I never want to see you again, 724 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 6: and I was like, I can totally make that happen. 725 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: Now, how is that? How is that effected your relationship 726 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: with your your wife? 727 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 6: Honestly, it hasn't affected it much in the sense of 728 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 6: between me and her. But her parents are pretty you know, 729 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 6: upset at the whole situation. 730 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so I mean, of course, well, of 731 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: course her parents are upset, But as long as it 732 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: hasn't really impacted your relationship with her, you know, her parents. 733 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean, who gives a ship? Really me? 734 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 6: Because you know, just to open up, I came home 735 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 6: very upset. You know, I felt like a loser, you know, 736 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 6: like I completely blew it at a really big shot 737 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 6: at a really nice company. But you know, she told me, 738 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 6: you know, same thing you just said. She was like, hey, 739 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 6: who cares? 740 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 3: You still have me? 741 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: But also, man, it's like, you're this isn't going to 742 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: end well for you, right, Like you know that eventually 743 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: you will get caught. I mean, even if you don't, 744 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: it's like, what are you even really gaining from risking this? 745 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say it's more so gain. It's just kind 746 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 6: of money's been tight, and there's sometimes I want to 747 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 6: get things that I can't usually afford, just because it's 748 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 6: been pure hell since I lost that job, and you know, 749 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 6: sometimes I can't justify you know, not getting those things 750 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 6: that have made our life just a little bit better, like. 751 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: The first edition Jack Carouac books. 752 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, we actually had a pretty beautiful experience the 753 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 6: other night when we were going through the books when 754 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 6: they came into the mail, and we hadn't really had 755 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 6: a you know, a one on one you know experience 756 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 6: like that over something that we had. Actually, so when 757 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 6: we first met, uh, we actually spent years in San 758 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 6: Francisco before COVID you know, shut down the whole world, 759 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 6: and actually got to take her you know, kind of 760 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 6: through where Jack Carouac would spend time in San Francisco, 761 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 6: and you know, that was kind of one of those 762 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 6: core memories of you know, of the foundation of our 763 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 6: relationship that you know, kind of reminded us, you know, 764 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 6: like why we're together and you know, what we're doing 765 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 6: with each other, and we actually have a dog rescue together, 766 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 6: so it just kind of you know, inspired us to 767 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 6: just keep on going. And you know, even though we 768 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 6: might do bad things, sometimes there's always you know, there's 769 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 6: always a reason to do good. 770 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: So listen, man, I. 771 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 2: I do think that's. 772 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 1: So listen. I think that's sweet. But your father in 773 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: law hates you already. Your father in law already has 774 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 1: it out for you, right. 775 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 6: Kind of kind of your. 776 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: Father in law. 777 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 6: The whole situation was a little bit weird. 778 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I just I don't think it's a I 779 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's worth it to jeopardize your current situation 780 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: to keep doing this. I'm gonna do what you want, 781 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: live your life, go crazy, buy buy hundreds of thousands 782 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: of dollars of things on that credit card, get a 783 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: washing machine, get buy a dog with it, do whatever. 784 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 1: I buy a house with it, do anything you want. 785 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think I don't think it's a 786 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: good idea. 787 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 6: Agree, that's that's kind of that's kind of why, you know, 788 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 6: after having that those couple of moments, I was just 789 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 6: kind of, you know, I don't know how to I 790 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 6: don't know how to say it. I don't want to 791 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 6: say like, my morals are all over the board, But 792 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 6: sometimes I get into a weird headspace of like I 793 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 6: kind of want to just do something that's that kind 794 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 6: of feels like a white way, but not you know, 795 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 6: I don't want to play the holder. Could be worse, 796 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 6: but sometimes it definitely. 797 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 4: Feels that way. 798 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 1: What's your name? 799 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:35,399 Speaker 6: Sorry? 800 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: What is your name? 801 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 6: Valentine? 802 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: Valentine? Are you before we go? Are you gonna get 803 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 1: a new job? 804 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 6: Actually, do have a new job? 805 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: What's your new job? Okay? Listen, okay, okay, I'll like 806 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: if you okay, if you have another job. It's time. 807 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 1: It's time to put the company credit card away. 808 00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 3: I did. 809 00:47:59,760 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 5: I did. 810 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,280 Speaker 6: That's why I've been trying to call about this topic 811 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 6: for about two weeks. 812 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: But now I got here. 813 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, I sell life insurance. 814 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 1: You sell life insurance. 815 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 6: Yes, I saw life insurance, and then I run our 816 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 6: dog rescue full. 817 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: Time see one day seem And now what scares me 818 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 1: is I'm like, what is the pipeline from uh, you know, 819 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: using money from your father in law's business to selling 820 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: your father in law life insurance and then murdering him. 821 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how far away those 822 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: two things are, but I just, you know, I don't 823 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: want to see you go there. 824 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 6: No, definitely not, you know, just a little heads up 825 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 6: on when you're actually getting insurance. Just like when you're 826 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 6: getting car insurance, you have to ensure your interest right, 827 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 6: so they know why you've got the policy and who 828 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 6: the money goes to, so you know everything. This is 829 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 6: exactly why I'm. 830 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: Valentine, Valentine, Valentine, Valentine, Valentine. I'm a get Yeah, I 831 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: know about car insurance. Is there anything else you want 832 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go? 833 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, always remember that you know somebody loves you. And 834 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 6: that's kind of why I always tune into the show, 835 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 6: because you always end the show in a positive note. 836 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate that I never said I loved anyone though. 837 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 6: That's true. Maybe it's just a feeling. 838 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 3: I don't know. 839 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 6: I'm always super baked when I wants to show. It's 840 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 6: just the vibes I get. 841 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: That's probably the weed making you feel loved. 842 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 6: Maybe you just always have like you always you have, 843 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 6: like that Fabio stairtoo through the screen. So it just 844 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 6: makes me and my way feel very loved with our dogs. 845 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: Hey, Valentine, Yes, have a good night. 846 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 4: Man. 847 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 1: It's I cut him off when he said, you too 848 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: probably didn't even notice. Hello, wow, how can I get 849 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 1: you on that? 850 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 2: I just want to talk about a shroom trip I 851 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 2: had like two years ago. 852 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: It says here that you had a shroom shirt, you 853 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: had a shroom trip, and the call screener wrote this down. Okay, 854 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: the call screener wrote, he had a shroom trip, and 855 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 1: he knows for a fact that the world is a simulation. 856 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: You know this for a forty fact. 857 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 2: I would say, in my eyes, I would consider it 858 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 2: a fact. If no one can disprove it to me, 859 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 2: then it's the fact that my eyes right. 860 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: I would love to hear how you believe it's a fact. 861 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 2: So I had this roommate at the time, and I 862 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 2: kind of introduced him to shroom, and we slowly started 863 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 2: going up on the progression, you know, like I introduced them. 864 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 2: I say, started with two grams. We do two grams 865 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 2: of shrooms, that's whatever. We get like high, a little 866 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 2: bit higher. 867 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 3: Than the lead. 868 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 2: And then we go three grams, pretty good, start seeing 869 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 2: a little uh, you know, and then we one time 870 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 2: we decided let's just go for it and we did 871 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 2: like a little over I think it was like four 872 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 2: and a half grams each And at one point I 873 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 2: was feeling sick, and so I go to the bathroom 874 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 2: and I puke up all the shrooms. But at that 875 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 2: point it was already in my system. If you, if 876 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 2: you've ever done shrooms and puked on shrooms, you know 877 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 2: that sometimes it like intensifies your trip. So I started 878 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,919 Speaker 2: tripping balls. And then when that happened, I lay down 879 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 2: on the couch and we're just watching a movie, probably 880 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 2: Pine Up Express for the fiftieth time, and I look 881 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 2: at of walls and it's all binary code. It's zero one, 882 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 2: zero one. The TV is binary code. Everything in the 883 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 2: whole room, everything is binary code. It just felt I 884 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 2: got broke through into like, well everything is actually made of. 885 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: To be a dick right now, I'm going to be 886 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: a dick right now. Have you considered heard Have you 887 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: considered the fact that the room was binary code? Not 888 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: because all of reality is a simulation, but because you 889 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: were tripping on shrooms. 890 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 2: I see your point. However, if the real if that's 891 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 2: the reality that I'm in, wouldn't that be effect to me? 892 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, oh for sure. I mean, look, whatever 893 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 1: you want can be a fact to you. My look, 894 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: if I decide that I'm I'm painted blue right now, 895 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: then that's a fact in my own reality. Yeah, I mean, yeah, sure, 896 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: whatever you want can be a fact to you. 897 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question? Yeah, I want to 898 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 2: take I want to get really high on shrooms. I 899 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 2: haven't taken trooms in a year or two. Now I 900 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 2: want to get really high on stroom and go to 901 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 2: the zoo and see if I can talk to the animals. 902 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 2: Huh do you think that would be a good idea 903 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:35,760 Speaker 2: or a bad. 904 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 1: Idea relative to what like? 905 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 2: Uh? 906 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good idea. What are you trying 907 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: to accomplish? 908 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm trying to now, I'm trying to see if I 909 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 2: can have some kind of emotional connection with the animals. 910 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 2: But then I'll get too fad there locked up. 911 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: You can have an emotional connection with with animals without 912 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: being on trum. You could just go off to one 913 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,959 Speaker 1: of them and well, I guess at the zoo. Maybe 914 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: a pet coo would be a little bit of a 915 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: better place to do that because you can actually go 916 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: up and pet the animals. 917 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 918 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: H Well, I've learned a lot about facts from talking 919 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 1: to you. Is there anything else you want to say 920 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: to the people the computer before you go. I do too. 921 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 1: I want to do it again, but I have to. 922 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 1: I'm I don't know if I'm in the right mental 923 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: space to do it. We'll see. 924 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 2: That's why I've been putting it off. I'm just like man, 925 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 2: I tripped out that last time, so it's like keeping 926 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 2: it off and whatnot. But I only feel like a 927 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 2: better person the next day. 928 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: I've only done it once, and I did like a 929 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: two and a half two point five, and I was 930 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: really happy. I felt good. But I don't I don't know. 931 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what my Yeah, I don't know. I 932 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: don't know how it's going to be the next time 933 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 1: I do it. I want to do it again soon. 934 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,240 Speaker 1: But hey, maybe we can do it together. 935 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 2: That'd be sick, I would Yeah, maybe you can do 936 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 2: four you well, and then you wouldn't be able to 937 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 2: separate facts from opinion. 938 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: Maybe that'd be a good place to be. 939 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 2: You're not a line. 940 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for calling, Luke, don't do drug. Oh jeez, oh geez. 941 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: Rick goes on the line making your phone calls every night. 942 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 3: Ever goes to it. 943 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 6: I'm just teaching you a loud