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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, to show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and culture.

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Speaker 2: Start with headline news and then journey to.

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Speaker 1: Deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally.

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Speaker 2: That dude out.

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Speaker 1: Here feeling amazed. And let me tell y'all, I had

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Speaker 1: a weekend. I ain't even got no time to waste.

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Speaker 1: But this ain't no wasting your time right here, this

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Speaker 1: book right here. Never shut up. That's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: Friday swag Away winner. You know how we do on

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Speaker 1: this show. We always show up to the party with

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Speaker 1: something in our hands. That's what my mama told me.

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Speaker 1: And you ain't enough. You need more than just you,

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Speaker 1: So I bring gifts to all y'all every week. Now

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Speaker 1: let's get into this show. You know how we started

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Speaker 1: off every day? Well, what's up with that?

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Speaker 2: Dude? Excuse me, y'all. My son is eight. Yes, MJ

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Speaker 2: the Great is now eight. That's right, boy.

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Speaker 1: This little boy had him party. We went to this

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Speaker 1: place called I think it's called the Center. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the hell is called. It's a big rock

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Speaker 1: climbing place. But it's dope if y'all have not been

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Speaker 1: go I know you not all into rock climbing me either. However,

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Speaker 1: they hook you up to this safety cable from the

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Speaker 2: Who can't do that? Like, I'm like, all right, all right.

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Speaker 1: So the kids are in there, you know, they are

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Speaker 1: all eight year old, seven nine year olds, and they're

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Speaker 2: Feet, fifty feet. You're like, what the hell?

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Speaker 1: And these kids are going at it builds up their courage, obviously,

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Speaker 1: their fear factor starts to diminish. You just see it

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Speaker 1: as a parent. Right, So I'm just watching them climb climb,

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Speaker 1: and there's just one slide. It's like a real slide

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Speaker 1: feet right there right and you're like, damn, that's where

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Speaker 1: to say stop, and then that's when you let go

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Speaker 1: keeps pulling and pulling and pulling until you say stop. Now,

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Speaker 1: MJ got the second highest the first time. This other

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Speaker 2: It was an amazing time. Mang a boy, y'all.

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Speaker 1: With all that, but after that, just looking at my boy, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's my favorite thing in this world. Don't

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Speaker 1: John close six's house, shout out to him, and the

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened on this weekend. Anybody go

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Speaker 1: to the beach. Mother nature ain't so happy right now.

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Speaker 1: Them waves were what why they said. The day before

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Speaker 1: So that was great. After that, we had football valuations yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Little Man got a big compliment from a guy high

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Speaker 2: Don't want to blow up his spot. I didn't get permission.

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Speaker 2: But it was fun to see the football valuations. My

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to what I really did why last

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Speaker 1: night was a special night. Went to see Far Side,

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Speaker 1: Souls the Mischief, and the Alcoholics. Just off of those three,

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Speaker 2: It was the Alcoholics. Dog the Alcoholics still going hard.

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Speaker 1: The first two albums Silly Look taking nothing away from

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Speaker 1: Don't ever do that rappers, especially when it's been a

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Speaker 2: I love hieroglyphics.

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Speaker 1: an amazing weekend. Well watch this transition. Guess who didn't

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Speaker 2: Oh Trey Lance. Damn it.

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Speaker 1: The only reason I'm bringing up Trey Lance right here

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Speaker 1: They gave up too much for the dude. He ain't

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Speaker 1: Right, So he went out there and raised some red

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Speaker 1: flags with his preseason performance, so you could say one.

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Speaker 2: Point for those who are nay sayers.

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Speaker 1: Right, So Trey Lance in his camp, they've been talking

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Speaker 1: That's the national media over there trying to kill the

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, I'm watching the performance. Everybody

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Speaker 1: All right, And that's what's funny about reading stats. You

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Speaker 1: Sixty six percent completion percentage and a touchdown, no turnovers,

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Speaker 1: not as good as those numbers indicated. So my man

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Speaker 1: Jim Trollow, you who y'all know, knows some football. Also

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Speaker 2: Oh man. He's at the athletic now and he said.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm pulling for Trey Lance because he's a quality

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Speaker 1: young man who has had a tough start to his career.

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Speaker 1: But he did not help himself in the first half.

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Speaker 1: Held the ball too long and I see in the field, Well, yes,

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Speaker 1: he was pressured, but some of that is on him

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Speaker 1: really hoping to see better now. He was behind his

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Speaker 1: Let's give him some love. Let's give him some love.

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Speaker 1: a guess was a decisive quarterback. A quarterback that knows

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Speaker 1: the sheriff get back there. He ain't care who was

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Speaker 1: in front of him, Meadows, Glen, those are some good

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Speaker 1: Saturday, So what hood that's it? Either it's a completion

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Speaker 1: rarely it was a turnover after that first year, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at Trey Lance like man not helping

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Speaker 1: yourself in that situation.

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Speaker 2: Four sacks on the day.

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Speaker 1: So he got away with two, not one, two interceptions

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Speaker 2: But that's part of the game.

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Speaker 2: Right, So let's be real about that.

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Speaker 1: Mike Silver, my dog, I don't know Mike Silver for

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Speaker 1: many a year's he said, two dropped interceptions by the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: The coaches will judge Lance's performance harshly, and they should.

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Speaker 1: So let's look at Trey Lance right now on that

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Speaker 1: depth chart. Okay, we got party there, you know, damn well,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what Party does this preseason. They saw

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Speaker 1: him in the thick of things, they saw him in

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald's there with all that talent, but it hasn't

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Speaker 2: Under right now. That micro scrutiny, that micro.

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Speaker 2: Who wont the book? Who gonna get the book? You?

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Speaker 2: That's tough? All right?

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Speaker 1: Lets hop about Katie nol tough sled in at ESPN

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Speaker 2: What the hell am I talking about? All Right, we

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Speaker 1: This We certainly remember who she was like in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: This is what she said about ESPN and her initial

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Speaker 2: I think this is riveting.

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Speaker 1: I went to ESPN and I tried to do like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I hear y'all right now, Pat McCafe, look a out, dog, y'all,

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Speaker 1: there is something to this, not all like y'all thinking.

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Speaker 1: But you know, big business, big company. You know, so

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Speaker 1: many chefs in the kitchen. That stuff gets fumbled way

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you why. What Pat McAfee and like,

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Speaker 1: Because I got five dollars left from being a punter

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Speaker 1: don't watch it a ton because I got two many kids, right,

434
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Speaker 1: But the point is, when I catch them, I see why.

435
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 2: People like him. He's just giving it to you, right.

436
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: But the thing I respect in love the most is

437
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, fat and fluffy on their desk with

438
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Speaker 1: a suit, being one of those few guys that have

439
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Speaker 1: his own show. And Pat McAfee can't even get his

440
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 1: own show, can't even get on a show.

441
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Speaker 2: Was outside the.

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Speaker 1: Door, and in five six years, not only does he

443
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Speaker 1: kick down the door waving the faux foe, tell him dope,

444
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: y'all know what that is.

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Speaker 2: That's who he's.

446
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: Not only does he do that, but where I am,

447
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 1: he laps me ten times over. It looked like he

448
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 1: lapped everybody in that damn building, everybody in this industry.

449
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 2: Let's not lie about it.

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Speaker 1: That dude went from you an outcast, you stay out

451
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: there right, aimless homelessness of society, right, but it looked

452
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Speaker 1: deeper than that, or you an outcast, that's who he was.

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Speaker 1: Then he came back in Don Doda as he said,

454
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Speaker 1: super cot mine on you.

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Speaker 2: He is Pat McAfee. And that was all I needed

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Speaker 2: to see.

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Speaker 1: There's no way I'm on the right course and have

458
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: the right engine, and I'm the right man to be

459
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Speaker 1: in this position. And that guy just went past me

460
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Speaker 1: like that, right, I gotta figure that out.

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Speaker 2: I'm here.

462
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Speaker 1: So that's what it was man for Katie Nolan Man

463
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: just to flip like on a fire. She had the

464
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Speaker 1: machine winner and then what too many chefs in the kitchen,

465
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: simple as that man. And I will say this because

466
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Speaker 1: I keep it real with y'all, because y'all my people.

467
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Speaker 2: When she got the ESPN people upstairs were saying this.

468
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Speaker 2: They were unpleasantly surprised by her level of talent.

469
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Speaker 1: They were saying that she was great in the role

470
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Speaker 1: that she had created or she was already in, but

471
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Speaker 1: when they tried to give her other roles, not so great.

472
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Speaker 1: Whether it's really fate, the proof is in the pudding

473
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Speaker 1: of what ESPN felt, and it became a self fulfilling prophecy.

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Speaker 1: If you don't like somebody in these roles, then you

475
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: don't give them those roles, and then they can't show

476
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Speaker 1: you that they could do those roles, and therefore, all

477
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that person is exactly who you thought

478
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: they were. Because you thought bad of that person, right,

479
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,239
Speaker 1: don't even give them the opportunity to pull themselves up,

480
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: not consistently, not with support, not with stability, not the

481
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Speaker 1: way it's supposed to beat. And that's how that went

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Speaker 1: for her. I saw it happened. I was right there.

483
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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, that's how the game goes. So

484
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Speaker 1: it's just interesting to see Katie Nolan.

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Speaker 2: What's she up to? Now?

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Speaker 1: Y'all gotta hit me too. I don't even know how

487
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: did that ESPN handle her situation? Go in the comments

488
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Speaker 1: and let me know that. Did they handle it poorly?

489
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Speaker 1: Or like me in Dallas? Parcelles looked at me soon

490
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Speaker 1: he saw me in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: He said, pass rush, he said do it again, and

492
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: then he walked up to me. He said, Marcello's is

493
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: that all you got? And I was like yeah. He

494
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: was like m. That was the loudest hmm I ever

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Speaker 2: heard in my life.

496
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden rolls change, simple as that.

497
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Speaker 1: And do you like Katie Nolan show? Did you like

498
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: Always Late? Before it got canceled? And y'all all big

499
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: Katie Noley stands anybody out there loving her like that?

500
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: And then you think it deserved to be canceled. I

501
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: just know how the game go and I'm just trying

502
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: to get y'all game for free unless you're a whiley's world.

503
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Speaker 2: I love y'all. All right, we're gonna give it away

504
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: to the book. You know. We gonna do it on Friday.

505
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: You know what we do around here other than y'all

506
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: getting paid a Friday night.

507
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: And I'm feeling right.

508
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna get this book too, damn. And that's a

509
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: damn good book from a damn good dude.

510
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: I like him. He's pretty cool. I'm always with him.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, let's talk about Philadelphia seventy sixers because

512
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: James Harden don't want to be with them no more.

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Speaker 1: Good Lord, am I the King of Transitions? Yes you are, sir,

514
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. All right, let's talk about these

515
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: trade talks right here, and James Harden like, look, I

516
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: don't plan a report to camp, and that didn't go

517
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 1: so well because it was his people saying that.

518
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: So then he said, oh, I'm gonna say it. I'm

519
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: gonna say it.

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00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it, and y'all gonna hear from my

521
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: lips loud and clear.

522
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: He went full gangster.

523
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: And I know they always say never go full gangster,

524
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: but he did ice Cube, no Vassaline hit him up,

525
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,719
Speaker 1: he did it on videos. So let's talk through it first,

526
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: because it's deja vu and Philly once again.

527
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Speaker 2: It's like reminding us of Ben Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Good lord, that was a bad situation out there, remember

529
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: that like two years ago where they had to go

530
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Speaker 1: through all of that trade conversation to finally trade him

531
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Speaker 1: to get James Harden in the building. Well, looks like

532
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna have that situation again, but now, no Ben Simmons,

533
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you, James Harden.

534
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: All right.

535
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of signals being sprayed around, and

536
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try and talk through it real fast

537
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: to get to this video because I can't lie.

538
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: I want y'all see this video. So no matter what

539
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: signals the Sixers sin when it comes to these trade talks.

540
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: People close to heart and now I hate that Harden

541
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 2: right there close. I got to talk to somebody close

542
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Speaker 2: to him.

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00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Damn you famous and rich if you got people close

544
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Speaker 1: to him, say hey, hey, tell him what I said.

545
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: You right here, you tell them, no, no, no, no, just

546
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: you tell them and we use that as information.

547
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: But hey, gotta take what they give you, right.

548
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the ten time All Star and

549
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: former MVP who no longer wants to play for the

550
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: Sixers and he don't won't even go to training camp, right,

551
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: So he has a belief that there's gonna be some

552
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: meaningful developments in the trade talks before the season starts.

553
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 1: That's what he's thinking. And we know how James are

554
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: nat when he started thinking that way. Remember him in

555
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: Houston December twenty twenty. Oh, remember when he came back.

556
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: Everybody said he got fat. Let me tell y'all one thing.

557
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of y'all see real NBA

558
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: players in real life, And when you see him, you're

559
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: actually like talking to them like a normal person.

560
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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, like one, they're.

561
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: Tall, most of them, but two none of them are

562
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: like fat, like none of it. None of them say it.

563
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: Yep him too, Zach Randolph. I remember when people were

564
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Speaker 1: like Zach Randolf fat. I was like Zach Randolph six

565
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Speaker 1: ten one ninety. But on TV next to somebody six

566
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: y ten ninety he looked fat. He wasn't fat. Same

567
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: thing right here, Zion, y'all see Zion real life. He

568
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: a little thicker than most, a little more gravy on

569
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: that chicken.

570
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: But guess what, he ain't fat. Let's just talk through that.

571
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: But James Harden's back in that situation when he came

572
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: back a little fat, had a little belly, and he

573
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Speaker 1: was like, oh, I ain't trying to play in Houston.

574
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Speaker 2: We are there now. So he wants to go to

575
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Speaker 2: the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: That ain't happening, Lisa, don't look like it on paper.

577
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: And when any tea leaves that I'm reading, he ain't

578
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: going to the Clippers. So that's been staggned at those

579
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: talks right there. So now let's see what happens. It's

580
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Speaker 1: Darryl Moury.

581
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy six ers and James Hardy on the other side.

582
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: Now we know that Darryl Mory got that gang standing

583
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: him too. He waited six months to get rid of

584
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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, just sitting there like.

585
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Speaker 2: I heard you. Y'all heard you? What you say?

586
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I heard you, and didn't trade him

587
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: till February twenty twenty one. It went along time. So

588
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: all the executives in the league are basically saying, look,

589
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: we are convinced that Maury is trying to keep Harden

590
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. Why because he gotta keep that level of

591
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: talent around. Joel m b mess around and let Harden

592
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: go mess around and be sorry, mess around and lose

593
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: and beat. That's the conversation Maury's having in his head.

594
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: So now we got free agency coming, and we know

595
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: that James Harden is clearly lost out on the opportunity

596
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: to get exactly what he wants from Philadelphia. Then he

597
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: loses out on the opportunity, it looks like, to get

598
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: the proper trade partner. So what is a James Harden

599
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: to do? He's in this situation right now again. Okay,

600
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: now let me dab my brow cause it's gonna get

601
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: hot in here. Oh god, y'all, look at this video

602
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: right now, now, this is this is me. Coach always said,

603
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: if you're gonna say something nice, it's okay to just

604
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: say it about all of us. But if you're gonna

605
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: say something that's not nice, I need names and numbers.

606
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: He said.

607
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be specific, it better be about something

608
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: that's negative. Other than that, just say what you want. Well,

609
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: James Harden got that message from Coach as well. He said,

610
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: Darryl Moorey is a liar, liar, liar, liar, and I

611
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: will never be a part of an organization Jason, that

612
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: he's a part of. Let me say that again. Here

613
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: comes the remix. Darryl Moorey is a liar, liar, and

614
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: I'll never be a part of an organization that he's

615
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: a part of. Okay, God's to be more careful what

616
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: happened here? Okay Darryl Moorey. And this is the craziest

617
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: thing about business. And I hate this part, but I

618
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: see both sides. Darryl Morry, I'm assuming gave James Harden

619
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: those promises, right, those unwritten promises, because look, ain't no

620
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: contract with them.

621
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Speaker 2: You know that old that like wink wink, that nah that.

622
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: You know I got you those type of promises and

623
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: James hard Remember he took the massive pay cut and said, yall,

624
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy into the Philadelphia seventy six ers. But

625
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: what James Harden lost was twofold. It wasn't just money,

626
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: it was the fact that James Harden is like, don

627
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: y'all really gonna diminish me just for Joe L and B.

628
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: Y'all not gonna try to play complimentary ball, which means

629
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: whatever MB does best and whatever I do best, we

630
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: try to merge the two. They never tried that. It

631
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: didn't look like it, and this ain't no Doc rivers either.

632
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: I think the pressure is Inb's the guy forget the rest,

633
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: So therefore they play a style of ball that's good

634
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: for MB, MVP, and Harden like, Okay, that's what y'all

635
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: want me to do? Uh well, I could pass, lead

636
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: the league and assists, but what else I can score too?

637
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: But y'all on even want me to score when he

638
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: ain't there, when he's hurt, when y'all need me. Okay,

639
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: now we're gonna play that game.

640
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: You ever been that person where they act like they

641
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: don't need you till they need you, and when they

642
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: need you how you act.

643
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: You always all.

644
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: In or you show them a little bit like y'all

645
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: better not ad like that again, Right, you got a

646
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: little bit of salt in your game, right, And that's

647
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: what happened hard. He lost his dough and he lost

648
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Speaker 1: his way in terms of being respected by an organization.

649
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not sitting.

650
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: There say, oh boy, James Harden, cause a lot it's

651
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: on him as well. Right, I'm a person that takes

652
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: full accountability of everything that comes my way, good and bad.

653
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: That's the only way I'm gonna get out of it.

654
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: That's the only way I'm gonna get to where I

655
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: wanna go. But in this situation, oh, we playing a

656
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: game of chicken. These cars are coming, these teslas are

657
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: heading towards each other.

658
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: Who you think gives first? Who budgets first?

659
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: Harden or moriy They both got the gangst the history

660
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: of saying we can go at it. Man, Let's see

661
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: this one right here. Whoa they about to go at it?

662
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: And where do you think Harden will wind up?

663
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: Ultimately Sixers, Clippers, yeah, or somewhere else. Man.

664
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Speaker 1: Let me take y'all one more level to this. When

665
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: you saying yo were good, were good? Y'all gotta know,

666
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: future versus present is a whole lot of difference. And

667
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: I bet in that moment, maybe Darryl Moriy had his

668
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: mind made up, because it's hard for me to believe

669
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: that Daryl Mory was sitting there talking with James Harden,

670
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: looking at his camp and in that moment saying, I'm

671
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: about to mess over this, dude.

672
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: But you know what happens. Things change, plans change, life,

673
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: circumstances change, You look at your team different, and all

674
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you say what I said, I need

675
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: a revision what I said, I need to revisit. What

676
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: I said ain't gonna happen. Now. You ever been that person?

677
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: People call you a liar when you wouldjus when you

678
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: change it up, people were like, oh, man, you told

679
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: me two months ago we're gonna do that. I was like,

680
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: how do I say this two months ago? Ain't today today?

681
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: I got it.

682
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: Your boy asked you for some money two months ago,

683
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: he said, Yo, I think in a couple of months

684
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: I might need a little hookup, but don't try, don't trip.

685
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: We'll see and you I got you, I got you,

686
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, something bad happen to you.

687
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: Then two months later you boy like I need it,

688
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: and you like, he I'm a little tight, little tight

689
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: you said like I have it.

690
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: I said it when it was good for me too.

691
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 1: That's how the game goes man. So basically, the more

692
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: of the story is if somebody said they're gonna do something, ah,

693
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: you better put that on paper. And even now you

694
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: go to court A lot of times I ask somebody

695
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: with a prenup, they even looking at that paper a

696
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: little different. Well, right now James Harden looking at his

697
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: paper different. And I ain't talking about just contracts. I'm

698
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: talking about that though. Get through this because we got

699
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Speaker 1: some comments over a chill Friday swag away for you

700
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Speaker 1: members in you too wile this world.

701
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: Let's get to some comments. Fuck up some comments, funking

702
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: some comments.

703
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, countdown is never going to catch TNT. ESPN is

704
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: to T and T what McDonald's is a chick for

705
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: l a O okay, ESPN like McDonald's is everywhere we

706
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: see stephen A, willbarn and Malika five days a week,

707
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: multiple times a day. So when you see countdown, it's

708
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: cool more what you got earlier that day.

709
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: Interesting.

710
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: TNT is on Tuesday and Thursday night. That's it, and

711
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: it's a great product, just like Chick fil A. Having

712
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: fewer locations and a darn good sandwich makes them the

713
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: obvious choice when going to the drive through. The scarcity,

714
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: along with a great show is what I think makes

715
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: inside the NBA special. I get all that, and I

716
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: just got hungry. I can't lie to y'all though, if

717
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: you told me I got to go on the island,

718
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: and I go, only bring one of them restaurants and

719
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: it's Chick fil A or is McDonald's, Ronald, pack your bags.

720
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: I am tearing what a number one value? Extra large

721
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: with a strawberry shake, that big Mac with that sauce.

722
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what's in that sauce. They don't sell

723
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: that sauce nowhere else. I get it the patty, I

724
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of meat. That ain't a cow.

725
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to you.

726
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: They don't even look brown, but it's still amazing.

727
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: I take McDonald's over Chick fil A. But your point

728
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: well taken in terms of the scarcity. ESPN got a

729
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: shot a shot in they ass you stupid, really though,

730
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: no Greeny or Jay Rowse, Nah, big Dog, T and

731
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: T still on top. Not having ten minutes of commercials

732
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: and thirty seconds of everyone trying to get a.

733
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 2: Word in it would be a start.

734
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird like formatting, huh. Like when they have

735
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: too many people up there, Like, I literally get turned

736
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: off soon as I just see a gang of people

737
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: that I'm like, all right. When I see a gang

738
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: of people, I'm like, all right, don't really count them out,

739
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: but who.

740
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: Are those people? Right?

741
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, none of them played. I don't

742
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: even like to judge like that, but this is what

743
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: I'm really feeling. I'm like, none of them play, So

744
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: what's gonna make me? Wait to hear all them talk?

745
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: Once I hear the best one that didn't play talk,

746
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm like the rest of y'all gonna say what they

747
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: say it because the rest of y'all guessing like that.

748
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: It's all theorizing out here, right, So I'm like, eh,

749
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: I hate to be that guy, but that's just how.

750
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: I consume it. I'll be like, nah, but when I

751
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: see a.

752
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: Bunch of guys who played what I love is nobody

753
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: played the same, so we all did it different.

754
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 2: I was a nice football player, but don't get it twisted.

755
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: I still get a sackle your ass. But I was like,

756
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: with a giggle.

757
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: Then I played it with some guys who were mean,

758
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: and don't you want to hear the mean guy talk

759
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: about it and then hear the guy who was nice

760
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: and they both got good.

761
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: Results, You'd be like, Damn, that's dope. So that's why

762
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: I like when it's somebody with that level of experience

763
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: doing it.

764
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: But hey, it's all to the good. I still listen

765
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: to him. Odell Beckham Junior with his Super Bowl statement.

766
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: I think O'Dell's comments are perfectly human and we all

767
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: do it. If we couldn't finish bowling one night, but

768
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: we were really killing it up to then. A good

769
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: point other sports, etc. Sounds fine to me. Championships or

770
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: argument what is it? Argument enders? Okay, but I've always

771
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: observed offenses usually start off hot and defenses get better

772
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: at locking him down the second half. Good point adjustments

773
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: is called. But Odell's initial comment was understandable and fine.

774
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: Odell was like, look, if I would have came out

775
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: in the second half, stayed healthy, all would have destroyed it.

776
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: But they do make adjustments.

777
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: They do try to shut down a different player in

778
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: the second half, etcetera, etcetera. But I do like your

779
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: point right here, especially when you said that he can

780
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: go out there and still do something and it's human

781
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: and say that.

782
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: However, I disagree with you here. Championships are argument enders. No,

783
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: it ain't.

784
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Because if Emmi Smith walked up the Barry Center and said,

785
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: lick at my rings, I'm better than you, I'll be

786
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: like Barry.

787
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: Keep talking. It ain't gonna end right there.

788
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: Hey, No, if he stayed healthy, probably could have been

789
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 1: a top five receiver of all time. He has that raw,

790
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: one in a million type of talent. You ain't lying

791
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: he had that talent. Whoa, I hate that. That's the

792
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: regret I got resentment in me because no, Lie, I'm like,

793
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: damn if I could have stayed healthy.

794
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: But that's part of the game. We all sit there like, ooh,

795
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: if I get hurt there and have that surgery there

796
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: in the older welcome the sports. Dammit, welkness sports. Here

797
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: we go.

798
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: Last group about Jimmy g opened up on Trey Lance

799
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: talking that talk. Marcella's thanks for keeping it real always.

800
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: I am with you all.

801
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy does Jimmy G does is win. You need to

802
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: have a good number two quarterback because he always gets hurt.

803
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: But I definitely agree can win with him. Salute to

804
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan for giving Jimmy his flowers. All right, Jimmy's

805
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: problem was mostly just availability. He played well. He would

806
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: give you one bad play a game that can drive

807
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: you nuts, but overall a really good and stable quarterback.

808
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Jimmy can't get can't be shocked if he

809
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: got drafted in New England to replace Brady.

810
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: Been a windy road for Jimmy G.

811
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: A lot of it going up, but unfortunately because the injury,

812
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: like we just said, some of it going sideways. All right, y'all,

813
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: let's bring it in some of these Hall of Famous.

814
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: It's kind of ban of white that way.

815
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: Yes, how you doing, mister Marcellus?

816
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: Damn, mister Marcellus, boy, you must think I'm old as hell.

817
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 2: You call me mister and my first name. Appreciate your brother.

818
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: How've be going?

819
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: Hey? A you the og man? So I gotta give

820
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: it to you, man.

821
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you man. Thanks for your membership. What it do?

822
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: Absolutely so quick question for you man, with the realignment

823
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 4: that we're seeing take place there in college football? How

824
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 4: would you or how do you see perhaps that working

825
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: for the NFL. There's a couple teams that, like your

826
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: former Dallas Cowboys, that get a chance to market their

827
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 4: football product in a market that's not really terrestrial to themselves,

828
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: being able to market that from the South all the

829
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: way to the East coast.

830
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 3: So do you see that happening for the NFL?

831
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 4: And is that something maybe they should take a look at,

832
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: especially when we're talking about the TV rights and things

833
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 4: when it comes down to these contracts.

834
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: And then my follow on to that is with.

835
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: The NFL hoping to or maybe looking to expand or

836
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 4: do some things overseas, how do you see that going

837
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: to make these contracts more competitive? If we do get

838
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: a maybe an international lead kind of how.

839
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 3: Live Golf did with the PGA.

840
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: Do you see that kind of happening for the NFL

841
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: or maybe some competition for the NFL international?

842
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: All right, time, god dg those are two big questions. Oh,

843
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: I love.

844
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: It, god Lee, you're a professional one those real ask questions.

845
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: All right, Let me go the first one. Two things

846
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: jump out.

847
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: One, College football was broken and they predicted super conferences

848
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: was gonna be the fix, or at least the attempt

849
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: to fix.

850
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: And look up, what do we see now? Super conferences?

851
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: Right, so college football is following the beats that they

852
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: laid out a decade ago when everyone's like, no, no way,

853
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: and what fueled ultimately those TV contracts right those?

854
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: Hey, who do you have in matchups?

855
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: If you got the right matchups, more money, and that's

856
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: what happened.

857
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: Okay. Second thing about it is the NFL is.

858
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: Not going to go towards that model or even look

859
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: at them for consideration right now. Why because the NFL

860
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: is like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Right,

861
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: it's not broken. The NFL model is not broken. They've

862
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: been talking about expansion for years. Right, Remember the games

863
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: in Mexico we used to see always what the Raiders

864
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys. They didn't win all the way to

865
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: London and we still seeing them. And now the inventory

866
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: is increasing their like four games in London this year.

867
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: But the point be the NFL wants to globalize it's

868
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: brand and its product, but it also doesn't want it

869
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: to be diluted. It doesn't want it to all of

870
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: a sudden have this remote location that doesn't feel like

871
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: the National Football League. Right, you have the NFL, you

872
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: have thirty two teams here, then you have two teams.

873
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to do it in an even number.

874
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: Two teams that satellite remote and all of a sudden,

875
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: National Football League sounds a little weird in terms of

876
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: how you're gonna have it.

877
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: So I don't think the NFL is gonna change.

878
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: They may expand they want to go there to London,

879
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: but it's just like, ah, it's a game of double dutch.

880
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: When to jump in, when to do it? When is

881
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: the market really gonna respond to it?

882
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 2: Well?

883
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: Because having one game, four games, yeah, we're gonna sell

884
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: them out. We're gonna have pandemonium. Everyone's involved. But can

885
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: you consistently do that? Is the conversation. Now, what was

886
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: the second question? And give it to me short, because I.

887
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: Forget actually that was said. It was my second.

888
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: I was about to say, big dog, that's right, Ceete,

889
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: not me, brother.

890
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, They said I got hit in the head

891
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: a lot, brother, I hit him back. To appreciate you, man,

892
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: and look forward to you coming on anytime.

893
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: And next time you come on, just ask me what's

894
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: my favorite color or something?

895
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: Man?

896
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: You can't I appreciate your big dog all right, Van

897
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: of Black Time, what's that?

898
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, all right.

899
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: Now we about to bring in Preston. You know what

900
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, We got another Hall of Famer.

901
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: It's that glad to be.

902
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: Appreciate you too, big dog love.

903
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I was.

904
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: I was in hollywoods time man for twenty years and

905
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 5: just getting to watch your career some and watch how

906
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 5: you progressed after a retirement, your determination every day. There's

907
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 5: a true inspiration to me at least. Man, I really love.

908
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, man, it's love. It's just what

909
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: I was born to do with a lot of work.

910
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: I appreciate it takes a lot of work.

911
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 5: So I got some simple questions. Do you think Seth

912
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 5: win another ring?

913
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: Do I think Steph Curry's gonna win another ring?

914
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

915
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: No, no, I think Look, we saw myers lead for

916
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: a reason.

917
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: We see we see if we're.

918
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: Starting to see the asteroids, like Draymond Green was flirting

919
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: with maybe leaving or not leaving a it's gonna be

920
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: him with Jordan Poole.

921
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

922
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: We brought in Jordan Pool. You bring in Jordan Pool,

923
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: you draft him. He turns into something, didn't have the

924
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: best playoff run, obviously talked too much and didn't do

925
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: as much. And then now he's going, you got Draymond agent,

926
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: You lose a GM who built this team. But all

927
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden was starting to make some questionable decisions

928
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: to the point where he wanted to go somewhere, hit

929
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: a hard reset, get his brand back, and then all

930
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden he can go to organization he chooses.

931
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: That's what happens when they go back to TV. I

932
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: just see right now, the West look at a gap.

933
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: Let me give it to you like this. Denver won

934
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: there up here, Denver swept the Lakers.

935
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: They're down here.

936
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: The Lakers beat Golden State, and the Lakers. If Anthony

937
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: Davis is healthy, they always gonna be in the thicke

938
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: of things. But how often are you gonna beat on

939
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis being healthy the whole way? So I just

940
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: see there's two tiers, two gaps between them. And I

941
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: know they still got that championship pedigree, but Clay is

942
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: not exactly the same, and I don't think he ever

943
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: will be.

944
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: Draymond is Draymond.

945
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: But is that enough with just Steph just running around

946
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: as sooner or later, Steph needed that other guy, and

947
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was Jordan Poole, but it's not.

948
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: Who is it gonna be now?

949
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 5: So I guess my other question is I can't make

950
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 5: sense of Chris Paul go on to Golden State. I

951
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 5: guess it could be just getting off the contractor Jordan

952
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 5: Poole because Chris Paul's contract ends at the end of

953
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 5: this year. But how does he fit in? Do you

954
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 5: see it another guard in that.

955
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't fit in conveniently like your first look, first glance,

956
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: you don't see, Oh that's what it is. But let

957
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: me tell you how it can fit in one. It

958
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: fits in well with Chris Paul. He's gonna be a

959
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: happy camper. Chris Paul loves La. Family's out here. It

960
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: was tough on him even in Phoenix, close but not

961
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: close enough. Family was here, he was over there, back

962
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: and forth. You got kids that are in school. You

963
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: can't just keep taking them everywhere. So it's gonna fit

964
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: in well with Chris. A happy Chris Paul invested Chris Paul,

965
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a lot out of that. It's just

966
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: the role, right, So you put them at traditional point

967
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: guard Chris Paul style. You're not gonna get the full

968
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: effect of him in the first starting lineup obviously, Steph Curry, Clay, etc.

969
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: So you're like, and off the bench.

970
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: He'll do that, because off the bench doesn't mean what

971
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: it meant ten twenty years ago. It means all right,

972
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: you don't start the game, but you can finish the game.

973
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: We'll go three guards, whatever it may be. So I

974
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: see it working. It just takes a squint, you know.

975
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: Not some girls of that fine, like my wife, you know,

976
00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: I would like that.

977
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: I saw my like whoa.

978
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: And then it's some girls I've been with before. I'm

979
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: gonna leave their names out of this because I ain't

980
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: the cute this either. But I was like, okay, okay.

981
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: Then I was my girlfriend, right, Chris Paul on the Warriors,

982
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, okay.

983
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: I think it's that it.

984
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: Ain't like whoa. It's gonna jump out and be everything.

985
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: But I think it's still gonna work for.

986
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 5: All right, man, that's simple questions all I got for you.

987
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 5: It's a true honor.

988
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate you. Man. Love stunt man, I

989
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: love one.

990
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: I try to watch a movie and I try to

991
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: figure out when is the stunt man and when is

992
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: it Tom Cruise? Then I hear it ain't never the

993
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: stunt man with Tom Cruise. Sucker here jumping off the

994
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: mountains like, damn Tom. They aready paid you the act.

995
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: You can get paid the act act like you doing

996
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: a stunt.

997
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: Damn it. It's that simple, all right, chall.

998
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: Y'all know how we finish every show, finish it with

999
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: a wileyism.

1000
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't even know who my Whalley ism is

1001
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: right now? Can someone help me? Oh? There it is.

1002
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: If it's too hard, work harder. I was working hard

1003
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: to find my damn Wiley is. I couldn't find it.

1004
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: I should have worked all right, man, Look this one

1005
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: hit me like what. I recently got into a discussion

1006
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: with somebody who was complaining about how stuff was hard,

1007
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: and I couldn't find the words to tell them shut up,

1008
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: Like I just wanted to say, shut up, like dog,

1009
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: what do you think it is to climb to the

1010
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: top of a mountain?

1011
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: Easy? Like? Oh this is hard? Oh, oh this is overwhelming.

1012
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: Oh on this I was like, all I'm hearing is

1013
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: you don't want it, cause I know you can do it,

1014
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: but you don't want to.

1015
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 1: You gonna override me, overrule me, and you ain't gonna

1016
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: get it done. And I was just sitting there. You know,

1017
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't talk like this with people because they're vulnerable.

1018
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: I'm empathetic, but I'm not gonna lie to y'all because

1019
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: y'all my people.

1020
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: In my head I'm cursing them out. Dog. Nobody want

1021
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: to hear about this, including me. I want you to

1022
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: go get it because it's for you. So if it's

1023
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: too hard, damn it, work harder. What you gonna do.

1024
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: Just sit back and just like I'm good. I don't

1025
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: want that. Oh man, A little off.

1026
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: Subject with this, but let me try and bring it

1027
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: back home. This morning, my son had one of his

1028
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: many moments. I'm sure he's gonna.

1029
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: Have that I had.

1030
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to quit football. I was older than him.

1031
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: I think I was like nine or ten, and I

1032
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: wanted to quit football. Remember talking my dad said, Dad,

1033
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to play. I don't want to practice.

1034
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it anymore. He said why,

1035
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: I said, I don't like it. I want to just

1036
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: go outside and hang and play, ride my bike with

1037
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: my friends. I mean, you know, if you playing sports

1038
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: for real, especially back then. We had practice three times

1039
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: a week and a game that's four times.

1040
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: And I played.

1041
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: Football Bang bang Oklahoma drill is just like Hello, jumping

1042
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: jacks ten? All right, Oklahoma drill. Like that's how we

1043
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: started practicing Bang bang. Nine year old and I wanted

1044
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: to just quit. And then I said, uh. My dad

1045
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: was like, you committed. You know what I'm saying. Once

1046
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: you commit, we gotta do it. My son had that

1047
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: moment this morning. Dad, I don't want to go to

1048
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: football summer camp. I said, we committed. I said, let

1049
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: me tell you what commitment looks like. Commitment looks like

1050
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: all the stuff you love that comes from the sport

1051
00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: or thing you're committed to.

1052
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: You like when people walk up to you and say, oh, wow, MJ.

1053
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: You're really good. You like when you get picked first,

1054
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: don't you? You like when people say, Wow, that guy

1055
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: is really good. You like that, don't you?

1056
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: I said, right now, you're eight What happens if you're

1057
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: eighteen and they're still saying.

1058
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: That, you know what? You can be on TV? They'll

1059
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 2: pay you to go to school. You can get invited

1060
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: to a bay.

1061
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: Blade tournament and be front row and they'll give you

1062
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: bay blades and you will get a check. I said,

1063
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: commitment looks like that too. So just remember, if you're

1064
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: good at something and you want it, you gotta go

1065
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: get it. And if it's hard or too hard, damn it,

1066
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: work harder.

1067
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: Like shif what is that? Do not let your self

1068
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: tap out.

1069
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: People always think someone who made it is way more

1070
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: special than them. I heard, it's not that, and I

1071
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: really believe it's not that they just do the ordinary

1072
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: more than you.

1073
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: They just do the ordinary in the extra way than

1074
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: you do.

1075
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: They do the ordinary extraordinarily to the point where you like,

1076
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: damn they special. Well they're not really special. They're just

1077
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: consistent discippline and they work hard. So remember whatever it is, y'all,

1078
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn what you say, especially if

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Speaker 1: you're telling me I'm I rolling you. I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: y'all what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 2: Want want wall, want want wall, or basically, if it's

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Speaker 2: too hard, work harder. All right, y'all, that'll do it

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Speaker 2: for more to it.

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Speaker 1: Chake the show notes for all the information on our

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Speaker 1: topics today today, I want to keep the conversation going.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to find me on all socials at Marcell's.

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Speaker 1: Wiley More Too is a production of Dan Patrick Production

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Speaker 1: that Dude Entertainment and workhouse Media. Show is executive produced

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Speaker 1: by Dan Patrick, Marcell's Whily, Paul Anderson, and Nick Panella.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for all the.

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Speaker 1: Love, ratings, and subscriptions and reviews, membership to Wiley's World

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Keep it coming because there's more coming from

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Speaker 1: more to It. Talk to y'all hell a soon.