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Speaker 1: the show. Uh, but also let's talk about what the

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Speaker 1: Suns have done. Okay, so two different stories in one.

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Speaker 1: The Sons hired Jordan Ought and it looks like they're

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Speaker 1: going to trade Kevin Durant, So why does this all

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Speaker 1: make sense? First, Kevin Rant, I mean, you have topped

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Speaker 1: his powers. We're all okay saying that doesn't mean he

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Speaker 1: reasons that Nicks made their change was in their mind,

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Speaker 1: but that's the philosophy. Ott used to work for Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: And there'll be some people that copy that. That's how

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Speaker 5: I know you've had experience, whether it be in your

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Speaker 4: But you don't get what you don't ask for, you

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Speaker 6: I just remember how tough it was. You know, we

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Speaker 6: oh we won that. But every other year, you know,

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Speaker 6: with the Lakers, we were just beash and we beat everybody,

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Speaker 6: and the same thing with the Spurs, we just betted everybody.

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Speaker 6: So if I have to pick one's the ninety five.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the Lakers, right. I mean the

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Speaker 1: shot against the Kings is one that there's lots of

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Speaker 1: shots you maybe the Spurs and shots you made, but

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it feels like the one against the

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Speaker 1: Kings is a one that people point to the most.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that.

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Speaker 6: Is because they felt like, if we lose this game,

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Speaker 6: we go down three one to the Kings. And Kings

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Speaker 6: had the best record in basketball that year. You know,

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Speaker 6: they was right there with Chris Webber, Doug Chrissy and

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Speaker 6: Mike Bibbitt. They had a really good team. You know,

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Speaker 6: they could be anyone, and we knew whoever won that

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Speaker 6: game was going to win win the NBA title. And

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Speaker 6: I think for us and the Pill was a game

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Speaker 6: game four knocking down that shot at home. Now you

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Speaker 6: think about it, the way I played against the Pistons

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Speaker 6: in two thousand and five, I didn't even talk about

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Speaker 6: that in the second half, but because I made a

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Speaker 6: shot in the Laker uniform in Staples at the time,

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Speaker 6: it's going to be talked about because one of the

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Speaker 6: greatest franchise in all of sports, and at home, you know,

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Speaker 6: it was very significant in the world of sports.

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Speaker 1: I should say, what's that like for everybody to know

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Speaker 1: you as Big Shot Bob? I mean, honestly, what does

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Speaker 1: that feel like when people shout out out to you

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Speaker 1: when they see you walking by?

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Speaker 6: It feels great, man, Because when you're a kid growing up,

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Speaker 6: you said you want to get nickname, and when you

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Speaker 6: you know, you don't just come out and say I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna call myself big Shot. And if someone gives you

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Speaker 6: the name and it sticks, it means a lot because

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Speaker 6: it made it lets you know you made it. You

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Speaker 6: think about how many songs my name has been mentioned,

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Speaker 6: all the titles them, and people say, oh, big shot,

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Speaker 6: what's happening. You know, it makes you feel good because

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of guys that I passed by and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, damn, what's his name again? But when you

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Speaker 6: got a nickname that sticks, you know. So now that

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Speaker 6: I got a nickname that kind of sticks, and I'm

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Speaker 6: on the minds of a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get rid of for this NBA Finals. You

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Speaker 1: got the thunder who they're a super young team but

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Speaker 1: obviously super talented team, deep athletic, and I do think

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Speaker 1: it benefits them that they're going against a pacer team

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Speaker 1: that they're not super young, but they're they're not. It's

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Speaker 1: sound like they're going against Lebron, Grizzly Vetts, guys that

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Speaker 1: been there, guys that get benefit of debt with calls.

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Speaker 1: What Just tell me what your overall early thoughts are

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Speaker 1: on the matchup between the two teams.

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Speaker 6: I think they're very similar. You know, if you put them,

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Speaker 6: you line them up and you think about who they

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Speaker 6: have and what team they're all similar. You know, chet

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Speaker 6: Hongry shoots a lot of threes, and you got Miles

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Speaker 6: Turner who shoot a lot of threes. You got Obi

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Speaker 6: Topping who can jump out to gym. Then you got

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Speaker 6: you know, Jaylen Williams, you can jump out of the now.

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Speaker 6: You've got Lou Dorfins who played good defense. You got

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Speaker 6: that can play defense. It's like you go down this

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Speaker 6: list of players, they're all pretty much evenly matching. You know, Okay,

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Speaker 6: she just gets more fanfare because of the commercials because

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Speaker 6: SGA got you know, MVP, and they playing in the West,

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Speaker 6: and you always think the West is better, But don't

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Speaker 6: create this stas team.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: You've got Ters Halliburn who's playing with a chip on

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Speaker 6: his stummer. You got Nim Hark who stepped into a

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Speaker 6: role who can knock down some big and got a

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Speaker 6: lot of guys on this team that are really good.

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Speaker 6: You think about what Nie Smith did and we hit

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Speaker 6: like what eight nine threes against the Knicks, So you

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Speaker 6: never know what can happen. And I think this space

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Speaker 6: a team they pay the best as far as team

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Speaker 6: orient and basketball. Someone every night is leading score. I

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Speaker 6: think they pay better than even okay see because okay

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Speaker 6: see each and every night, you know who they leading

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Speaker 6: score is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: You know, you do you do? How what do you

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Speaker 1: what do you think about how he's officiated?

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Speaker 6: I hate it, I really do. I hate it because

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Speaker 6: I hate when when when refs gives the benefit of

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Speaker 6: the doubt to the offensive player. If you come down

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Speaker 6: and you bump into me and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: it's the file, I do have a right. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's no different than verdictaliti. If I'm running along and all

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Speaker 6: of a sudden you run into me or something of

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Speaker 6: that nature. It's it's just bad Basketball's teaching kids. It's

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Speaker 6: like it's okay to bail yourself out, you know, work

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Speaker 6: for your shot, get your shot, you know, learn how

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Speaker 6: to get away from the player. And it's it's just

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Speaker 6: I just know that's the way he's been officiated. No,

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Speaker 6: you know, you think about he's just James hard to borrow,

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Speaker 6: you know, how he's able to manipulate the reps and

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Speaker 6: get to the regail line. But I do hope that

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Speaker 6: they figure out a way not to just give these guys,

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Speaker 6: you know, the line to the free throw line because

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Speaker 6: it's bad basketball. You know, you always talk about you

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Speaker 6: want the game to be fast paced all these bogus

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Speaker 6: calls that some of these players get. It's not just SGA.

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Speaker 6: You know, you can go down a list to people

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Speaker 6: and it's so they need to find some way to

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Speaker 6: give the defense a little bit more credit than taking

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Speaker 6: it away from them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so all you have to do is check out

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Speaker 1: go to bed online for updated NBA Finals series and

537
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Speaker 1: MVP odds, along with game by game lines and props.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the Thunder are minus sixty seventy the Pacers

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Speaker 1: are plus four ninety, so the Thunder are prohibitive favorites

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Speaker 1: to win the series. Robert, Man, it's like any time

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Speaker 1: to talk hoop with you, it's awesome. But now we

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Speaker 1: get ready for the NBA Finals. I mean, that's your

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Speaker 1: time really special. We really appreciate that's what's spends the

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Speaker 1: time with us.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Man, thank you for always having me on man

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Speaker 6: big fan, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Man, pleasures all ours. That's a big shot out, Robert

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Speaker 1: or joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. You're listening to us now, but you know

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Speaker 1: out in the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search

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Speaker 1: our Fox Sports Tradio videos on YouTube. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think in other sports, is there are there other Robert

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Speaker 1: Orri's Jay stew and Sam like uh Ilo? Are there

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Speaker 1: other Robert Orri's? By that, I mean guys that are

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Speaker 1: synonymous with really good players, but they're known for like

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Speaker 1: that guy was. He's almost like a Where's Waldo of

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Speaker 1: championship teams? I totally forgot he was on those first

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Speaker 1: two Rockets championship teams, and the Spurs teams and the

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Speaker 1: Lakers teams, et cetera. Is there is there a baseball

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Speaker 1: or football version of that?

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Speaker 7: Well, for basketball, Steve Kirk comes to mind, But other sports,

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Speaker 7: that's really interesting.

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Speaker 5: I would offer up this, and each of them can

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Speaker 5: be disputed, so I'm not married to these. But Doug

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Speaker 5: gave us ten seconds of notice. Charles Haley, Mark Swareth,

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Speaker 5: Bill Romanowski.

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Speaker 7: Good, Yeah, that's those are good.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I did. I did give you ten seconds.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty solid. Well, who are you gonna say? You said?

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr won two or three?

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Speaker 7: Uh he I mean he won at least four because

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Speaker 7: he was on the Spurs in ninety nine. I don't

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Speaker 7: remember if he was part of their two thousand and three.

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Speaker 1: He was on the two thousand and three team.

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Speaker 7: Okay, then was five.

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Speaker 1: He was on two Bulls teams. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: was on all three, No, he was.

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Speaker 7: He was on the last three. Yeah, so he was

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Speaker 7: on three with the Bulls and two with the Spurs.

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Speaker 7: So five totally, yep, Okay, five total?

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Speaker 1: Okay, no base is there a baseball one baseball?

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Speaker 7: Well yeah, but all with the Yankees probably right.

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Speaker 1: But like there's cheater and there's my rever, Like those

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Speaker 1: guys are the top line stars. I'm talking about a

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Speaker 1: guy who's just a good player, can't be just a role.

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Speaker 4: Players around, wins some championships.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean he's in the Hall of Fame. But

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Speaker 7: Yogi bear. But again, that was with one team.

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Speaker 5: I'm not referring to the guy that was cooked by

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Speaker 5: his wife and slapped a comedian at the Oscars. But

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Speaker 5: there's a reliever named Will Smith. I think executive World Series.

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Speaker 1: He was on the Dodgers and then who are the

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Speaker 1: other two? He's on the was he on the did

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Speaker 1: the Rays win? One?

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Speaker 5: Was never on the Dodgers Rangers?

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Speaker 1: There was a different Will Smith on the Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: Right, he's a catcher.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I did have the right name. I had

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Speaker 1: the wrong player.

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Speaker 5: Correct, the reliever Will Smith?

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Speaker 7: Actually you could say Reggie Jackson three with the A's

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Speaker 7: and two with the Yankees. Perhaps, But he was also a.

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Speaker 1: Star Okay again, like it's a very unique thing, like

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Speaker 1: a star role player.

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Speaker 7: How about the likes of Ramiro Mendoza and Chuck Knoblock.

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Speaker 7: How about Cheflin Nelson.

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Speaker 3: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting to see the you know what eating

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Speaker 1: grin on the face of Jason Stewart, because after taking

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Speaker 1: two of three from the Yankees, you know, then they

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Speaker 1: lost what Sunday to the Yankees, they lose Monday and

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Speaker 1: extra innings to the Mets. And last night's baseball was fun.

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Speaker 1: Two nights in a row of extra innings baseball, especially

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Speaker 1: against the Mets. When you know at Schebez at the Ravine,

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Speaker 1: all the New Yorkers come out and it's just a

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Speaker 1: great crowd. Best part is two more games against the Mets.

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Speaker 1: But the grin, I'm I wish I had the you

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Speaker 1: know what eating grin? Uh Sam does? Is that how

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Speaker 1: Jason Sewart has been walking around all day kind of

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Speaker 1: that cat they ate the canary look.

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Speaker 4: I looked over. I mean he had sort of a

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Speaker 4: weird facial expression. Yeah, for the most part, We'll say,

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Speaker 4: might be your gas, yeah gas, Yes, he's been grinning.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I mean two guys, Max Mounsey, as we previously discussed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you are single handedly responsible for his research.

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Speaker 5: He's exercised his demon and then last night was the

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Speaker 5: night that Scott exercised his demon. And by exercise demon,

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Speaker 5: I mean he actually got a couple outs because he

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Speaker 5: hasn't been able to do that. He's not a closer,

645
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Speaker 5: remember Andrew Friedman. He thinks he's smarter than you, so

646
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 5: he's never going to tell you that he has a closer.

647
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 5: He's going to be the first GM to win without

648
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 5: a closer. But he paid Tanner Scott like a closer,

649
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 5: and Tanner Scott has been just dreadful. So yeah, he

650
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 5: got the win last night or the save, I don't know,

651
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 5: Tanner picked it up. But could we pay off a

652
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 5: tease before we get into the midway?

653
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the group.

654
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 5: Text is Isaac, Sam, Doug and me. Before the show,

655
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 5: I threw out the idea from the midway. Now I'm

656
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 5: going to ask you, Doug, just give me your honest answer.

657
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 5: Don't google it, don't look it up. And Sam, you can't.

658
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 5: You can't taint these waters here. Do you know what

659
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 5: a nos feruto is?

660
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: No no idea?

661
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: Let's say correctly, hold us like Isaac. Okay, well we

662
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: have to say it correctly, you're misleading. It's no Sparatu.

663
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 5: Do you know what? No s Ferratu is Isaac.

664
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 7: He is a backup defenseman on the Florida Panthers. No,

665
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 7: I don't, okay, so that makes over three. No, no clue.

666
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: I have never heard of the term. No.

667
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 5: No, I had no idea what that is?

668
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 7: Not one of these things that you don't know about,

669
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 7: but you kind of have clues as to what it

670
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 7: could be referred to. I was completely lost.

671
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 5: I just thought it was that part in a group

672
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 5: discussion where Sam meant to send it to a different

673
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 5: group text, so you just ignore it. But I threw

674
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 5: out the idea from midway. It goes like this, Uh, well,

675
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 5: the NBA ever created finals that mirrors the Super Bowl,

676
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 5: as per Adam Silver saying this on Breakfast Ball today.

677
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 5: And Sam goes to the group text and says, no Sperrutu.

678
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 5: No Sfaratu appears in the sunlight.

679
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: So what what are things that appear in the sunlight

680
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 4: that usually don't nocturnal animals?

681
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 7: Vampires?

682
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: Vampires? There you go, and no Sparatu is a vampire.

683
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: It goes back about one hundred years. The original No

684
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: s Faratu movie and I was making a joke about

685
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: Adam Silver's appearance, maybe a crass one, but oh for

686
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: three guys, Oh boy, we got Mike coming in. Mike,

687
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 4: have you ever heard of nos Faratu?

688
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 6: That?

689
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he Mike's knows what I'm talking about.

690
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 5: Let's get the man on the SI for years to

691
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 5: my defense here, thank you, Mike.

692
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: Sorry about that little technical issue there.

693
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem with that is that it's such an

694
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: I feel like it's an obscure.

695
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: Exactly except that a No Sparatu movie remake came out

696
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 4: last year too much.

697
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 5: So now Sam's insulting us for not being up on.

698
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna send a picture of the original Nose s

699
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: Faratu and you guys can tell me if there's any

700
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: similarities there. So the the original No s Faratu very

701
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: scary looking guy. It was a It might have been

702
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: a silent film, but it was made in early twenties.

703
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: And no, I mean Adam Silver might might not appear

704
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 4: in the sun very often. He might be a vampire,

705
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 4: or he might just look like No Saratu.

706
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 7: That reference sailed over me as if I was the

707
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 7: uprights on a Cameron Dicker field goal attempt.

708
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 4: All Right, it was lost on you, guys. I just

709
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: thought you knew who No Sparatu was.

710
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I just on the group text.

711
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 4: Do you recognize this person I sent to the group text. No,

712
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 4: Doug's okay. So Doug sent Emperor Palpatine, which I don't

713
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: mind that, but Adam Silver is not wrinkly like Palpatine,

714
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 4: and you can't see the top of Palpatine's head, so

715
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 4: I would say no, Seratu gets a slight nod.

716
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 5: So not only did he did he he declined to

717
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: apologize for making a joke that he's doubled down. Now

718
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 5: he's insulting you, Doug, for your contribution.

719
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I always appreciate people adding things, even if

720
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 4: you know, like a Brad Doug had the nice Brad

721
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 4: Stevens addition in here. It was like, yeah, yeah it works,

722
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: but you know, we'll just we'll talk about it.

723
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 5: You be back for Brad Stevens. Man. You show guys, what.

724
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: Was the really it was Lurch? Is that his name

725
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: from them? Oh?

726
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, from the Adams stamilely Yeah.

727
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: No, you're thinking of Uncle Fester. Well, Lurch had hair.

728
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 4: He was just Uncle Fester, didn't Uncle Fester is bald,

729
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 4: and but he was more of a portly guy. So

730
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 4: I guess Adam Silver might And listen, I'm not I'm

731
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: being we're being mean, but we're just making a joke.

732
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 4: Adam Silver might be across between Uncle Fester and Lurch

733
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: because Lurch is very tall, but he had hair and

734
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: he had sort of the pale demeanor.

735
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 7: It is clear that Adam Silver might need some more.

736
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 7: He might need to take a vitamin C supplement.

737
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 5: Is that fair?

738
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 4: He might need a steak, maybe Vitamin D. Sorry, yeah,

739
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 4: he might need some zinc and some protein.

740
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean, anybody, I'll get you back. I mean, you

741
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: can never have too much vitamin C. You just pee

742
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: it out if you have too much anyway.

743
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 7: Right, I'll just say your word for it.

744
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: But okay, and you know, Adam Silver Silver probably healthier

745
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 4: human being than I am.

746
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's like a marathon guy.

747
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah he's so we're just we're just cracking. Why is

748
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: cracking here? There you go? Yep, Uncle Fester played the

749
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: best Uncle faster was I thought played by you know,

750
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 4: Christopher Lloyd because I love those movies from the early nineties.

751
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 4: But there you go. We got I think we nailed

752
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: it down now, you guys know who know sparatu is,

753
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 4: and we have compiled several celebrities to uh to the

754
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: composition of Adam Silver.

755
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 7: I will say this though, on all future exchanges on

756
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 7: this particular text exchange, I will now reply with the

757
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 7: most obscure possible reference that none of you will understand.

758
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: The original is not obscure. It's a pretty well known

759
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: You guys just didn't know it.

760
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: How much money did the movie make last year?

761
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 4: Well, I don't how much Google?

762
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: How much money did the movie make?

763
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: The movie came out out?

764
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: Anyway, Jay Stu, I get that your friend's talking the money.

765
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 5: The money.

766
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: Hold on, I'm not talking about twenty four anyway.

767
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am, because you're saying, you basically said, we're

768
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of dopes. Everybody knows who knows faratu is,

769
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: and we're the only three human man. It seem like

770
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: we're the only three human beings on earth that don't

771
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: know what knows frutus. I may you may be right.

772
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: You may be right. This may be part of pop

773
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: culture where we're just we are grumpy old man, get

774
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: off our.

775
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 4: Log, and Mike is sending us a text where someone

776
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: compares Adam Silver and Knows s Faratu the nineteen twenties

777
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 4: version side by side. Thank you, Mike is in my

778
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: corner here. I appreciate it.

779
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 5: Mike.

780
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: Of course he is, because he's the one who's you're

781
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: you're like copying his reference.

782
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 4: Uh No, he's he's just saying that. Oh my god,

783
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: look at all the nose Sparatus side by sides here

784
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 4: if you just google it, Oh my god. So yeah,

785
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: I'd say you guys were a bit in the dark,

786
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: kind of like nos Faratu, kind of like Adam Silver

787
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: in a vampire.

788
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I mean, we're just really making fun

789
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: of Adam Silver's teeth.

790
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: If this knows Faratu his teeth, all right, I those

791
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: has some real He is.

792
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: An odd looking dude, right. I don't think anybody anybody would,

793
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: uh would argue with that one. That's an odd looking dude.

794
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: All right.

795
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of Adam Silver, that takes us to the midway.

796
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: He's not getting mad.

797
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 7: It's time for.

798
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: The midway.

799
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: Okay, the midway. What's the topic today?

800
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 5: Jay stet Adam Silver two people in the world refer

801
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 5: to him as knows Faratu said this on Breakfast Ball.

802
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 8: It's one thing I really admire about the NFL. I mean,

803
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 8: if if we were going into a Super Bowl and

804
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 8: it was Packers against Steelers, you guys would be celebrating that.

805
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 8: Nobody would Those would be storied franchises. People wouldn't be

806
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 8: talking about markets. You know, the fact that Pittsburgh is

807
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 8: a small market, so we in fact, you know, I'm

808
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 8: happy whatever team ends up in the finals. But it's

809
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 8: been intentional from our standpoint to create a system, a

810
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 8: collective bargaining agreement that allows more teams to compete. And

811
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 8: just by way of background, you know, we're going to

812
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 8: have to go through a process of getting to the

813
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 8: point where people are accustomed to tuning into the finals

814
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 8: because it's the two teams that deserve to be there

815
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 8: and it's the best basketball. Similar to again with the

816
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 8: super Bowl. If I asked somebody if they were going

817
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 8: to watch the super Bowl, they wouldn't say who's playing.

818
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 8: It's a national holiday and now that's Nirvana.

819
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 5: You know.

820
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not saying we're anywhere close to that yet.

821
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 8: There's still if the Knicks are in the finals, there's

822
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 8: a segment of our fan base that's going to watch

823
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 8: that may not watch if it's other teams. But my

824
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 8: job is to get people to love and follow this game,

825
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 8: and so that if you're a huge basketball fan, you

826
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 8: should want to tune into the finals because that's the

827
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 8: best basketball.

828
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: That part is fair. That part is fair, and I

829
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: thought the unfair part, or the of twos part is

830
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: the well, you know small markets is Green Bay and Pittsburgh,

831
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: like those are two of their greatest historical franchises in

832
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 1: the history of the sport. Oh yeah, by the way,

833
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: the thunder have been around for less than twenty years

834
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: and the Pacers were an ABA team, so it's just

835
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: not the same comparison. But I do love how he's

836
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: ambitious and trying to trying to adjust to the sports

837
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: fan of today, which is is definitely needed, definitely needed.

838
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 5: So your answer is, no, the NBA Finals could never

839
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 5: become another Super Bowl.

840
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: No, No, I think it's in the summer. It's it's

841
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: in the summer at seven games, yep, It's.

842
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: Not a single day. No, it's not on a Sunday,

843
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: although a game might fall on a Sunday.

844
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I I there was a world there where

845
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: Kobe and Lebron never matched up in the finals.

846
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 7: Just take over your body for a second there.

847
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

848
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: No, I just had a yawn and I'm not tired.

849
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: I apologize. Jase Stu got on me if you yawning previously,

850
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm awake.

851
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: You just got the green light to do a lou

852
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: Holtz impression.

853
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 7: Hey, you know, I'm sorry, guys a super Bowl.

854
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: But you did you know you take making Cuba Bolt.

855
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: You need to talk about Note to Dame and.

856
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 5: I'll just quote somebody that we all are very intimately

857
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 5: aware of. My man. If you're follow to sleep on

858
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 5: the year, your listeners sure are.

859
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: No.

860
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 7: He was. He was into holes. Hey, though, here's what

861
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 7: what you actually kind of triggered my thought for comparison,

862
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 7: triggered in a good way for comparison purposes. What previous

863
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Speaker 7: NBA Finals matchup came closest to that sort of aspirations

864
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 7: the bingo, That's exactly where I was going. That kind

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Speaker 7: of captured the imagination of the nation for a two

866
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Speaker 7: week span, and that's exactly what I thought. Celtics Lakers,

867
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Speaker 7: Bulls Lakers in ninety one and to this day, the

868
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Speaker 7: highest rated NBA Finals matchup involved the team from Utah.

869
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 7: It was Game six of the bulls Utah Jazz series

870
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 7: in nineteen ninety eight. What it was thirty three point

871
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 7: one million viewers, I think for that one.

872
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: So what of those that was based on Geordan?

873
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 7: Of course? And the last Dance?

874
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: Sure well not it wasn't the last dance of the time.

875
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 7: Oh no, it was. It was. They knew it was

876
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 7: the last dance at the time, or at the very least,

877
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 7: it was most likely the last dance, most.

878
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Likely, But you know, I don't. I don't remember tuning

879
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: into that finals going like this is the last time

880
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to see joh You know again, most people

881
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: thought it was likely, but we didn't know.

882
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 7: So what parameters would be needed to give the best

883
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 7: possible shot of the NBA rivaling the Super Bowl hype?

884
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 7: It would be a great compelling superstar on each team,

885
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 7: a great compelling story you haven't won it in fifty years,

886
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 7: like the Knicks, a raucous home crowd. Maybe that's maybe

887
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 7: that's not as important, but you're looking at you're looking

888
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 7: at basically two things, superstars and storylines.

889
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 5: I just think I think it's a complete fools errand

890
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 5: to ever if you're a commissioner of a sport compare

891
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 5: yourself to the NFL. The way the NFL resonates with

892
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 5: Americans will never be matched. And if I think it

893
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: was foolish to him to go to the comparison, because

894
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 5: now talk radio is making the comparison, and I would

895
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 5: say ten out of ten talk radio hosts and analysts

896
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 5: are saying it'll never become the super Bowl. People love

897
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 5: gambling on football, wives love sitting with their husbands and

898
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 5: watching football. They're just are there are little things that

899
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 5: this intangible things that will never be able to grasp

900
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 5: for why this sport is so popular and the NBA

901
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 5: is woefully in second place in that.

902
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 7: And would you guys feel that perhaps you could even

903
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 7: make the argument that NBA All Star Weekend is a

904
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 7: closer super Bowl esque vibe than the NBA Finals are,

905
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 7: not in terms of TV ratings, but as a destination,

906
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 7: almost like an event, a convention and an event. Yeah.

907
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if this has been brought up yet,

908
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 4: I apologize if it has. But also Adam Silver talked

909
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: about quote unquote small markets like Pittsburgh and Green Bay. Uh,

910
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: those two franchises in the NFL have a combined like

911
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: how many championships between them and so that, oh you did,

912
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: I must have been cixated on a commissioner knows, Faratu,

913
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 4: we'll clean it up and edit.

914
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't the one who was sleeping. I was.

915
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 4: I wasn't sleeping.

916
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 5: I was.

917
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: I was so.

918
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 5: And Adam sober he's been.

919
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hey, listen, I'll do a quick man cope

920
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: on nos Fau. One hundred and one million dollars is

921
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: nothing to uh to thumb your nose, Faratu at ah,

922
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: look again, I have I actually truly appreciate Jay Stu's

923
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: honesty because he's in search of whatever the opposite of

924
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: BS is. He carried with him a huge negative bias

925
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: towards the NBA into the season, and I didn't plead

926
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: with him, but I made the case that it's a

927
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: much better watch than you think, just like baseball is

928
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: a way better watch. Now, the numbers have not turned

929
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: around to match that, although they were better last year

930
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: because you had Yankees and Dodgers, right, so I again,

931
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: it won't be We're not gonna have obviously this year

932
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: super Bowl like numbers. I don't think in the near future.

933
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: There is the only way you get there is if

934
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Speaker 1: you have the biggest names in the sport, probably in

935
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Speaker 1: some with the historical franchises, right, historical franchises, and you

936
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: need to have an epic series because if I said, hey,

937
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: will the World Series ever be a super Bowl? You

938
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: would say, no, you idiot, it's not close. But I've

939
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: been doing sports radio long enough so to have h

940
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: I know, Jay stew you and I Loo when they

941
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: when I first started doing it, Yankees Red Sox was

942
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: everything and it wasn't even the World Series. It was

943
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: everything and every game for those two years, oh yeah,

944
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: was everything. So you can absolutely have that type of

945
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: It'll never be the corporate thing because it's you know,

946
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: the weekend set, what a blah blah blah blah. But

947
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: you can be gigantic. But we never got Kobe and Lebron.

948
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: That would have been this generation's Jordan.

949
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 7: Bird now magic Bird too, Yeah.

950
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: I mean Magic Bird. And we also, you know, we

951
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: also don't have college rivalries in basketball anymore because nobody

952
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: stays long enough in college and the European players are

953
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: are leaving. So if you had you did have Lebron

954
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: and Steph and KD multiple years in a row, that

955
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: was as close as you would have gotten, but I

956
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: think it's never going to happen, at least in the

957
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: very near future.

958
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 7: Okay, Doug. For comparison purposes, Oh.

959
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: All right, no, you can comparison. Go ahead, we'll.

960
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 7: Wrap one, yeah, real quick. For comparison purposes, Let's say

961
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Speaker 7: that from a basketball standpoint, this year's NBA Finals is

962
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 7: superb go seven games, great individual performances, buzzer beaters. Will

963
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 7: that help make it respectable in the ratings? Or is

964
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Speaker 7: the riding already on the wall, Because I'll go back

965
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Speaker 7: to this nineteen ninety one World Series, the Twins and

966
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 7: Braves to at least one you know, relatively mid or

967
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 7: small market team, not a lot of super duper stars,

968
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Speaker 7: although they were stars, but they are the best top

969
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Speaker 7: one of the best, top to bottom seven game world

970
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 7: series ever wound up averaging thirty five million viewers. If

971
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 7: this year's NBA Finals from a basketball standpoint, completely sells

972
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 7: out in terms of excitement and individual performances and goes seven,

973
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 7: will that make a difference in the ratings nationally? Or

974
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Speaker 7: has that basically already been set.

975
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Speaker 1: I think it's already been set me too. It's sorry

976
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: to be set. And that is the midway the Midword.

977
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Speaker 1: The Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Okay, kiddos, let's get

978
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Speaker 1: back to foot football, shall we come to? Next to

979
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Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb showed Daniel Jeremiah ways in on this

980
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold thing. I want to hear it. It's text