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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: You heard that right? The stinking genius is taking a

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Speaker 2: rare night off. What's going on at how are you?

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Speaker 2: Aaron Torres?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Chris Plank? What would you give that? Like a six?

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Speaker 3: I mean I'd give that, well, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: i'd give it, but there was not enough asking. I

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Speaker 3: have some PTSD right there from it. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 3: pretty good. Scare me six, like basically what Arnie Spanner

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Speaker 3: brings to this show every Sunday night. Okay, wog noo?

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Speaker 3: Wow are you man? How's how's this Saturday Night show

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Speaker 3: with old Jason Martin? Well, uh, it's always fun working

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Speaker 3: with Jay mart I have a feeling that people that

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Speaker 3: are that listen to this time slot on Saturday night

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Speaker 3: are going to hear a lot of the same takes

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Speaker 3: from Torres that they did this time last night. But now, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm fired up to work, you know you know what,

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Speaker 3: Cass just say real quick?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about how many of the stories that

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Speaker 3: we could potentially hit on that you have a direct

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Speaker 3: tie to. Obviously the Oklahoma City Thunder you covered Caleb

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Speaker 3: Williams at Oklahoma. There's another one that's slipping my mind

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Speaker 3: right now that you have very direct ties to. So

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Speaker 3: I'm actually, you know, unlike Arnie, I am happy to

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Speaker 3: be sitting in the passenger seat and learning from Chris Blank.

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Speaker 2: I'm living the college football playoff changes right now. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm on the phone, could be going off at any

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Speaker 2: moment with the reporter ring on that I'm trying to put.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to put my big jay journo hat on

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Speaker 2: and really dive into exactly what people want because I'm

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Speaker 2: so confused right now. Aaron, and I know you're a

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Speaker 2: big college football guy. Didn't listen leaning with this. I'm

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Speaker 2: just bringing it up on something that I'm covering. You

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Speaker 2: have everyone that's pushing back against automatic bids, which, again,

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Speaker 2: in fairness, I'm not a big fan of automatic bids.

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Speaker 2: It's a championship, not an invitational. But they won't really

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Speaker 2: give you a reason why, or they won't really give

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Speaker 2: you a true Hey, here's what we want, right. It's

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Speaker 2: just I feel like everyone's kind of My dad had

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Speaker 2: a word for it. He would say p footing around it,

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Speaker 2: but he wouldn't say pee. There was another word. He

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Speaker 2: kind of just everyone's tap dancing around it right now,

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Speaker 2: and I don't understand the why behind no one just

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Speaker 2: should be. And yet everyone's playing these games. It's like

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Speaker 2: phone a friend right now, where everyone's trying to figure

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Speaker 2: out what they want and what they don't want. When

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Speaker 2: it comes to college football playoff, I mean, heck, we

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Speaker 2: can't even come to a consensus if it's sixteen or fourteen.

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Speaker 2: So I am trying to be a reporter guy on that.

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Speaker 2: So if anything hits the phone tonight or the email,

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Speaker 2: I'll be sure to let you know.

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Speaker 3: Well, one, are you expecting something after eleven pm Eastern

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Speaker 3: on a Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know when. You never know when there's fuelers

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Speaker 2: out for information. I just want to know what people

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Speaker 2: want more than anything else. I don't think we're going

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Speaker 3: If there's one thing I've learned about college football fans,

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Speaker 3: it's that they don't know what they want. All I

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Speaker 3: that we needed to go to twelve, and then we

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it was just it's too much.

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Speaker 3: Why did we expand so much? So listen, I know

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Speaker 3: we got a Game seven to get to it. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to steal the thunder here or may get

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Speaker 3: a college football segment to lead the show. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was good. I didn't even I wasn't even paying

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Speaker 3: attention to that part. No, but I don't want to

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Speaker 3: steal your show. But I don't care about the thunder. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Game seven didn't give us what we wanted. There you go,

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Speaker 3: so there you you don't have to worry about my thunder.

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Speaker 3: Nowhere else to give us what we want? A sixteen

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Speaker 3: team college football playoff? How about that? We don't need

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Speaker 3: more average to below average teams to determine that they're there?

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Speaker 4: Are you know?

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Speaker 3: Listen, I think college football is a little bit more

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Speaker 3: wide open than it was probably five six years ago

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Speaker 3: in the super team era. But we don't need sixteen

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Speaker 3: What if ucn's that sixteenth team. What if you listen,

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Speaker 3: I will be happy as a Yukon fan. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's going to make a better product.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, who cares about the product at Come on, man,

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Speaker 2: if your Yukon Huskies can get to the playoffs, well

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Speaker 3: But that's that's the whole thing. I will be happy

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Speaker 3: when Yukon walks into uh uh, you know the shoe

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Speaker 3: and loses fifty six to nothing.

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Speaker 2: Everyone get the payday, you get the pay day. Come on, man,

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Speaker 2: you're looking at this all wrong. Well now you're looking

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Speaker 3: All I'll say is, you know, basically, there's a perfect

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Speaker 3: wasn't close. So I don't know what I will say

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Speaker 3: about the college football playoff that I find interesting. What

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Speaker 3: you said I thought is very a very interesting thing.

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Speaker 3: Nobody knows what they want. Because when I'm looking at

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Speaker 3: all these proposals earlier in the week and I see

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Speaker 3: the ACC gets two automatic bids, the Big Twelve gets

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Speaker 3: two automatic bids, I thought the biggest winners in this

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Speaker 3: whole thing were actually the ACC and the Big twelve.

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Speaker 3: I agree, yeah, And then the reporting comes out that

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Speaker 3: the ACC is planning Why don't we only get to

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Speaker 3: automatic bids? I don't know, Cuz ninety five percent of

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Speaker 3: your league is dog you know what? How about that?

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Speaker 3: How about Clemson should have get it? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. There's three teams in the ACC that matter.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes it's fewer, and so it's a mess, which

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Speaker 3: is a nice metaphor for everything in college sports. Well,

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Speaker 3: this is relevant even tonight.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say my man Shady Sean for twenty apparently

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Speaker 2: his birthday is April twentieth. He does not like when

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Speaker 2: we talk to college sports. But here's my point. Game

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Speaker 2: seven was a dud. Today, it's been over for about

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Speaker 2: seven hours. We're on to Minnesota for oksee in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: The other Game seven was a dud. Toronto did what

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Speaker 2: Toronto does in Game sevens And I'm sure you guys

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Speaker 2: and talk about Liberty just doing something that's never been

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Speaker 2: done in the history of college softball, which is knock

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Speaker 2: just what happened here in the sport of college softball tonight.

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Speaker 3: This is a massive, massive story.

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Speaker 2: That's developing in college football because the commissioners are meeting today,

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Speaker 2: and they met today, and they met yesterday, and the

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Speaker 2: fight over the future is growing and it's a little

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Speaker 2: bit what's the word I'm looking for, contentious, So we're

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Speaker 2: not going to get an answer tonight. We might get

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Speaker 2: a little bit more buzz about which direction it could go.

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Speaker 3: Tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll be watching Ross Dellinger and Pete Dammel, And like

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm trying to be a journalist on this one.

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Speaker 2: I'll fail miserably airing break but they're meeting right now.

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Speaker 2: Is no I will not break the story. But it's

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Speaker 2: going to be fascinating to see how this plays out

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Speaker 2: over the next few weeks because nobody seems to really

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Speaker 2: know what they want except the Big ten and the

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Speaker 2: SEC and they tell you, we want four automatic qualifiers,

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Speaker 2: we want a sixteen team playoff. We want to go

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Speaker 2: to our TV partners and make more money. That's what

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Speaker 2: we want acc and Big twelve and everyone else seems

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Speaker 3: So that's why I'm just perplexing this whole thing. Well,

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Speaker 3: it is. It is a huge story. And I heard

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Speaker 3: Gargano and Fitzy talking about it right before we came

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Speaker 3: on air, and uh, yeah, I mean, if you want

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Speaker 3: to talk, I mean I got four I got three

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Speaker 3: hours worth of takes on this college football playoff. But

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Speaker 3: but yeah, no, it is interesting how quickly it went

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Speaker 3: from four to twelve, twelve to fourteen, and we bypassed fourteen.

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Speaker 2: And got to sixteen. The good news is, well, fourteen's dumb.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen's dumb. You're just gonna add two more teams. I

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Speaker 2: think that's dumb because you're just adding two more teams,

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Speaker 2: what are they gonna be two more two buys?

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Speaker 3: And then well does two non buys? Wouldn't the argument

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Speaker 3: there be sec Big ten champs get a first round

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Speaker 3: by and that's the rule.

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Speaker 2: There we got I guess that would be the only thing, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then who else can get a buy?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 2: Nobody else? I mean, I think, right, that'd be crazy.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen to me, if you're gonna expand, dude, we were

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Speaker 2: talking about getting past twelve before we even played the

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Speaker 2: twelve team playoffs, before we even played a game in

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Speaker 2: the twelve team playoffs, they're already talking about we got

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm here for it tonight. I'm here for it

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Speaker 2: tonight if anything breaks. Now, you did say, and you

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Speaker 2: did bring up the fact that we had a game

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Speaker 2: seven earlier today, two of them in fact, in hockey

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Speaker 2: and a basketball But like I said, I'm on in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: I'm on OKC in Minnesota. But I'm still having PTSD

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Speaker 2: after what happened on Friday night. And let's talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about Knicks now. It shocks me that Arnie's

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Speaker 2: not here after his Knicks of advanced to the Eastern

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Speaker 2: Conference Final.

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Speaker 3: That's the only reason they advanced, because they would have

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Speaker 3: had a game seven today, right, They definitely would have

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Speaker 3: lost if Arnie was working, they would have lost Game

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Speaker 3: six in probably game seven. Well, not to interrupt fellas,

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Speaker 3: but Arnie did text me this morning and he wanted

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Speaker 3: me to convey a message at the top of the show.

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Speaker 3: He just wanted me to tell you guys, go New York, Go,

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Speaker 3: New York Go. That's it. Continue He's also a Dolphins

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Speaker 5: I mean it was perfect Arnie, you know, in perfect

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Speaker 5: Arnie fashion, I interrupt the show like that.

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Speaker 3: So that's well.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Arnie's interruption would be asking a

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Speaker 2: question that he could easily google and then arguing with

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Speaker 2: you when you google it up for him. That would

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Speaker 2: be the perfect Arnie. Wait a minute, Wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: you're telling me we haven't had a college football playoff

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Speaker 2: before that. That's exactly what it would be. But here's

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Speaker 2: the thing, I dude, I think we need to we

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Speaker 2: need to throw some cold water on Knicks fans. You

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Speaker 2: just won a game to get to the Eastern Conference finals, right,

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Speaker 2: did you see the celebration.

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Speaker 3: We had this debate on our show last night.

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Speaker 2: So, like Aaron said, a lot of the same takes

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Speaker 2: you heard from Saturday night may or may not be

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Speaker 2: a carbon copy show only my voice over Jason Martin's

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Speaker 2: go ahead, what do you think too much?

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Speaker 3: Now? I don't think it's I don't think it's to

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Speaker 2: Whenever someone celebrates and you're like, man, you're just celebrating

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Speaker 2: Well, but they're not going to because they know how

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Speaker 3: Because they have been there, Knicks fans haven't been there.

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Speaker 3: When the Lakers are actually irrelevant franchise again, maybe you'll

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Speaker 2: So, you know, it's like me, you're yelling at me

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Speaker 3: They just want a title five years ago that doesn't count,

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Speaker 2: just to me, it's like, bro, you made it to

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Speaker 2: As a commentator, this is my this is always my stance.

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Speaker 3: And this is what I was gonna say, is I don't.

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Speaker 3: And I think the opposite is true as well. Now,

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Speaker 2: So that's what airon the Analyst thinks. Airon the Fan

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Speaker 3: I have a Yukon baseball jersey sitting in my closet

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Speaker 2: Maybe now you Oklahoma in the regions last. Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 2: Now you don't know it, nah, I'm just saying it's

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Speaker 3: You know. It's just they've been there before. It's happened before.

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Speaker 3: I mean they've essentially I mean, their star player I

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Speaker 3: you mean the greatest Nick ever? Listen, that was a

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Speaker 3: And I'm not enough of a Nix's story to know

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Speaker 2: Patrick Ewan for sure, that's it. Say yeah, maybe so

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a little over the top, but

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Speaker 1: It be you.

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Speaker 2: But it is only a trip to the final. So

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Speaker 3: That's where I'm in. Other words, you celebrate like that.

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Speaker 2: It's like, okay, well you can't be mad if you

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Speaker 2: something else. I mean, I don't know. I was living

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Speaker 3: I love it. I'm here for you or not till

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Speaker 2: so you probably got some good stuff. Oh it was amazing.

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Speaker 3: Then you'll hear, hey, we're ready for next year. Right?

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Speaker 2: That's what every single fan of a team does when

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, nobody's jumping on scorers tables. Listen, the Timberwolves

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Speaker 3: the standard is raised. But I'm with you as a fans,

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Speaker 3: problem with it, so do you. Yeah, I'm sure there'll

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Speaker 3: for a championship.

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Speaker 2: People, Come on, you gotta win a title when you

435
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Speaker 2: start burning couches, But enjoy it. Because I don't know

436
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Speaker 2: what to make of the pacers, which I think we'll

437
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Speaker 2: try to find out as the show goes on tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's Aaron Torres. I'm Chris Plank. Arnie Spanier is out.

439
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Speaker 2: We're coming to you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: And when we come back, it was a busy week

441
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Speaker 2: in the NFL for news. It was a busy week

442
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Speaker 2: in the NFL for signings, and we get a little

443
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Speaker 2: bit more details on one of those big signings. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about next on Fox Sports Radio. I don't want

445
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Speaker 2: to circle back to college football in a bit with you, Aaron.

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Speaker 2: It's Aaron Torres, I'm Chris plankare on Fox Sports Radio.

447
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Speaker 2: But for now, let's touch a little bit on the

448
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Speaker 2: NBA before the Saga's update, and then we'll get to

449
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Speaker 2: all these NFL notes. We went back on fan reaction

450
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Speaker 2: with the Nicks. Both feel the same way. Be you right,

451
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Speaker 2: go crazy, do your don't damage property, but be you

452
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Speaker 2: do your things, celebrate. Just wonder now if you've set

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Speaker 2: yourself up for all right, Well we just got beat

454
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Speaker 2: by the Pacers, but it's okay. We made the Eastern

455
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Speaker 2: Conference Finals. I don't think anyone's thinking that way right now.

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Speaker 2: Making the way that Oklahoma City responded today, fell behind

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Speaker 2: early got in a I guess you could say, in

458
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a tough spot. Aaron Gordon's playing

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Speaker 2: on one leg and they're not attacking him. Then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden something clicked with three minutes ago in

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Speaker 2: the first half and they ended up winning by like

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Speaker 2: one hundred and six points today. Pretty impressive performance. What

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Speaker 2: stood out to you from OKAC making a game seven

464
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Speaker 2: game very very uninteresting?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, first of all, you know, it is

466
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Speaker 3: funny how often, and I'm not trying to be like

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Speaker 3: negative about this, but how often we look forward to

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Speaker 3: a big game seven and how a lot of times

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Speaker 3: just frankly doesn't deliver up each What's up? Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: So all I'd really say, Plank is you know, listen,

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to sit here and say that I

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Speaker 3: have all the answers and I get everything right. Everybody

474
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Speaker 3: in this business gets stuff wrong unless you ask Ernie Spaniard.

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Speaker 3: But that's another conversation. When I you know, when you

476
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Speaker 3: hear Aaron Gordon isn't going to be at one hundred percent,

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Speaker 3: and you know you kind of go back through this

478
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Speaker 3: series and again, you live in Oklahoma, so you you

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Speaker 3: probably even followed it more closely than I did. But

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma City basically blows Game one. They're in control for

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Speaker 3: basically all but like the last two or three minutes

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Speaker 3: there's the game for what was a Game three. That's

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Speaker 3: the overtime game that they kind of were in control of,

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Speaker 3: and then once overtime started, Denver just took over. And

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Speaker 3: they're at home and Aaron Gordon's hurt. Like I'd like

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Speaker 3: to sit here and say that that, you know whatever,

487
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Speaker 3: but I kind of sat on our show last night,

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Speaker 3: I said, I like Oklahoma City. I get the championship stuff.

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Speaker 3: Jokic is, you know, in my opinion, the best basketball

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Speaker 3: player on planet Earth right now. But as we saw today,

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Speaker 3: there's only so much that he can do, and you know,

492
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Speaker 3: and there's only so much that the Nuggets can do

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Speaker 3: when he isn't on the court. And so, like I said,

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Speaker 3: I did I have a twenty eight point margin. I

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Speaker 3: think it was actually more than that. I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: do the math in my head of a thirty three

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Speaker 3: point margin yeah victory. Yeah, I can't say I had

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Speaker 3: a thirty three point margin of victory, thirty two, whatever

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Speaker 3: it was, But I did think Oklahoma City was going

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Speaker 3: to win because of how most of the series has

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Speaker 3: had played out to that point, plus the Aaron Gordon

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Speaker 3: news coming into Game seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in shock early whenever I saw some

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Speaker 2: of the early scores because I was following along. I

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Speaker 2: was working some softball today and I was getting to

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Speaker 2: the VR. But then when I saw they were down ten, well,

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Speaker 2: immediately I'm like, well, what in the hell? How how

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Speaker 2: can you be down ten to a Denver Nuggets team

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Speaker 2: that doesn't have Aaron Gordon. But then you kind of

510
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Speaker 2: saw a switch flip because Jalen Williams had been terrible

511
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Speaker 2: in this series on the road, but he took this

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Speaker 2: game over in the first half. In the second quarter,

513
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Speaker 2: he went eight for eleven and that meant he had

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Speaker 2: more field goals and he managed in each of games one, two, four, five,

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Speaker 2: and six in one quarter in the second quarter today,

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Speaker 2: And that's just crazy to think about because he's such

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Speaker 2: an integral part of the thunder attack. I forced some

518
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Speaker 2: turnovers in a nice job. He was the difference for him,

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Speaker 2: and you're you're more of an X and O guy

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Speaker 2: than I will ever be in my life. But how

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Speaker 2: in the world is six foot five Alex Crusoe able

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Speaker 2: to guard Yokitch at all, like, and I know anytime

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Speaker 2: Nicola would get into the into the paint, they would

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Speaker 2: double team him and Denver couldn't hit a shot down

525
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Speaker 2: the stretch to save their lives. But I was, I

526
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Speaker 2: was kind of impressed with a head banded, ballded dude

527
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Speaker 2: Alex Caruso today and the defensive job he did against

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Speaker 2: Yo Kitsch that was wild.

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Speaker 3: You're giving me way too much credit because I am

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Speaker 3: certainly the farthest thing from an ex's and O's guy.

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Speaker 3: But uh yeah, I mean his his whole career continues

532
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Speaker 3: to kind of blow me away. I mean, I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you a little story that's you know, inside baseball for

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Speaker 3: you and I, but you obviously are very familiar with

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Speaker 3: with tech SAgs radio and uh I remember years ago

536
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Speaker 3: going on with the then host Gabe Boch before the

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Speaker 3: draft and he was like, oh, you know, you think

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Speaker 3: this Caruso kid can make it? And his career actually

539
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Speaker 3: ended in the West Regional in Anaheim, where the Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: Sooners advanced out of the sweet sixth or out of

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Speaker 3: the Sweet sixteen a e Lite eight to go to

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Speaker 3: the Final four. Buddy Hill. Yeah, so I was at

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Speaker 3: Alex Caruso's last college basketball game, and I did not

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Speaker 3: see an NBA player that night, And sometimes I still

545
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Speaker 3: don't see an NBA player. But the dude just has

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Speaker 3: found his role. Yeah, plays hard, and you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: you know, listen, I'm not one to ever not acknowledge

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Speaker 3: when I'm wrong, and his entire career continues to kind

549
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Speaker 3: of unfold. But I think, to me, the big thing

550
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Speaker 3: is just when Jokich was off the court, they just

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Speaker 3: they they they don't have enough help around him. I

552
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Speaker 3: know he said some stuff after the game, and okay,

553
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Speaker 3: see just comes at you in waves. There's so many

554
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Speaker 3: young guys out on that team that could beat you,

555
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Speaker 3: and that kind of came to fruition today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they even kind of whittled it down to an

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Speaker 2: eight man rotation for a while today, which was wild. Okay,

558
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Speaker 2: enough on that. Nobody wants to talk about a thirty

559
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Speaker 2: seven point win in a game seven. But we can

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Speaker 2: start looking ahead, which will do coming out up here

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Speaker 2: in moments. But first we got to get you caught

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Speaker 2: up on everything that's going on in the world of sports.

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Steve de Seger, Hello to both of you.

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Speaker 4: Gentlemen, and I did just run across a great trivia question.

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Speaker 4: You know, with our final four set for the NBA playoffs,

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Speaker 4: the question is are there any guys left in this

567
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Speaker 4: NBA postseason that already have a ring on their resume?

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Speaker 4: It's going to be Oklahoma City hosting Minnesota on Tuesday

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Speaker 4: to start the Western Conference Finals, and the East Finals

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Speaker 4: start Wednesday with Indiana at New York. Anybody on any

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Speaker 4: of those teams?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Alex Caruso.

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Speaker 4: Alex Caruso of the Lakers won a title in Telly,

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Speaker 4: and he doesn't think that's a real ring.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell airon that.

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Speaker 4: Amazingly, J Tucker right, the answer to the question involved

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Speaker 4: six people, including PJ Tucker. A few years ago Toronto

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Speaker 4: had Passcal Siakam and og Onarobi past Keal the year

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Speaker 4: before the Lakers so twenty nineteen, Dante de Vincenzo in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, and a couple of years ago Nver

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Speaker 4: had Thomas Bryant, who's still in the playoffs. So six actually,

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Speaker 4: wow on the list, and I must mention in Arnie's absence,

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Speaker 4: of course, there is somebody from the Arizona Athletic Department

584
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Speaker 4: about to lose that. The Wildcats are trailing seven to

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Speaker 4: three in a softball super regional at home in Tucson

586
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Speaker 4: against Ole Miss.

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Speaker 2: They didn't force the if necessary game, but they're in

588
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Speaker 2: big trumble.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ask A and M how they went. Old Miss

590
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Speaker 4: is up seven to three in the bottom of the

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Speaker 4: fourth inning. The winners this weekend go to the best

592
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Speaker 4: of three softball super Regionals next weekend. And there is

593
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Speaker 4: no bigger story than what you referenced earlier, Liberty for

594
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Speaker 4: crying out loud one twice at number one Texas A

595
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Speaker 4: and M, including tonight to eliminate the Aggies. Yes, A

596
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Speaker 4: one seed is out in the regionals. They've had this

597
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Speaker 4: seating for twenty years. This has never happened. Meanwhile, I

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Speaker 4: believe it's number two Oklahoma correct.

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Speaker 2: Two seed, so really not good enough to get the one.

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Speaker 2: That's Texas. Good news for them, they're getting their SEC

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Speaker 2: championship trophy in the mail for the tournament that got

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Speaker 2: rained out.

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Speaker 4: Texas that coming sure look good this weekend, by the way,

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Speaker 4: and ranked in the top ten. It'll be Oklahoma against

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Speaker 4: Alabama next weekend, best of three, Texas against Clemson, and

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Speaker 4: a best of three next weekend. And UCLA against South

607
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Speaker 4: Carolina Top ten matchup next weekend. But Liberty against will

608
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Speaker 4: find out whom. Maybe Stanford Stanford's holding on seven to

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Speaker 4: five at Oregon, bo.

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Speaker 3: It'll be two upsets there, Steve.

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Speaker 4: It was already, wasn't it Oregon? It was a lopsided

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Speaker 4: game where they slaughtered Stanford earlier this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Those those two teams have swapped beaten the snot out

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Speaker 2: of each other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And isn't it usually the same picture most games?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like a five man rotation.

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Speaker 3: This is women's.

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Speaker 4: Softball for Grand outloud. So okay, Oklahoma City advances. You

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Speaker 4: mentioned the thunder at a home game for Game seven

620
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Speaker 4: and eliminated Denver to and the NBA Playoffs second round

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Speaker 4: today one twenty five to ninety three, Shape Gildas Alexander

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Speaker 4: thirty five points, and it will be ok C advancing.

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Speaker 4: Even though they trailed by eleven early, they did lead

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Speaker 4: by twenty three just after halftime when it was seventy

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Speaker 4: one to forty eight. In the WNBA wins for Washington

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Speaker 4: and for Minnesota, which won at LA eighty nine seventy five.

627
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Speaker 4: Kelsey Plumb now with LA did have eighteen points. There

628
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Speaker 4: was a Game seven tonight in the NHL playoffs, and

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Speaker 4: it has happened again. The Toronto Maple Leafs have lost

630
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Speaker 4: seven straight Game sevens over the last couple of decades.

631
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Speaker 4: Lost at home six to one to Florida tonight as

632
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Speaker 4: the Panthers took a three to zero lead with three

633
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: straight goals in the second period in about six minutes.

634
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Speaker 4: Scotty Scheffler won the PGA Championship by five strokes. Brison

635
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Speaker 4: Deshambo tide for second place in Charlotte. NASCAR's All Star

636
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 4: Race was tonight, won by Christopher Bell. Having quite a season,

637
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Speaker 4: he takes on the million dollar first prize. Joey Logano

638
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: finished second congratulations. FS one's final Cup Series event of

639
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Speaker 4: the season, by the way, was this evening. Fox TV

640
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Speaker 4: will have the Indy five hundred next Sunday. Fox has

641
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: all the IndyCar races this year and the guy who

642
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Speaker 4: earned the poll today is the first Indy five hundred

643
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Speaker 4: rookie since nineteen eighty three to take the poll. Robert

644
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Speaker 4: Schwarzman from Israel will be starting in the lead. Carlos

645
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: Alcarez took the Italian Open. That's a French Open tune

646
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Speaker 4: up on the clay courtse The French Open begins next Sunday.

647
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Speaker 4: Baseball's game at Yankee Stadium tonight went to the New

648
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: York Yanks over the New York Mets eight to two

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Speaker 4: with six runs in the bottom of the eighth Cody

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Speaker 4: Bellinger with a grand slam. Seattle completed a three game

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Speaker 4: sweep of the Padres. The Angels completed a three game

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Speaker 4: sweep of the Dodgers. Narrow wins for Arizona and San Francisco,

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Speaker 4: and the Minnesota Twins had won thirteen straight but lost

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Speaker 4: today five too at Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thanks Steve so of the kind of

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Speaker 2: fringe events guys, Aaron tours in for Arnie Spaniel, Chris Playing,

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Speaker 2: Steve Seger, Ool crewe Ian, Roddy's here, Mary Max here,

658
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Speaker 2: and all the editors behind the scenes will get the

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Speaker 2: sound coming up in just a bit of kind of

660
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Speaker 2: the non mainstream sports that get a little time this week.

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Speaker 2: College softball, college baseball. I know you're in college baseball.

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Speaker 2: Have you started your interest in college baseball yet?

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Speaker 1: Erin?

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Speaker 3: Or is it next week? You know? I was sitting

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Speaker 3: around the house. I think it was last Friday. The

666
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: wife was busy doing something. I may have flipped on

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Speaker 3: the old SEC network to watch little old Mississippi State.

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Speaker 3: No big deal. There you go Highway to Hoover. We're

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Speaker 3: getting there. We're there. Next week.

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Speaker 2: You got Indie racing, you got NASCAR and the Coke

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Speaker 2: six hundred, if that's still what they call it. Usually

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Speaker 2: we get like a boxing match. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: we really have one schedule this week and any those four,

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Speaker 2: which one really kind of piques your interest? Is it

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Speaker 2: the Indy five hundred or you just kind of sit

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Speaker 2: out this week and Chill I.

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Speaker 3: Would say definitely. I would say definitely. College baseball, although

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Speaker 3: I will say disager mentioned I'm not a huge tennis guy,

679
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Speaker 3: but at some point in my life I want to

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Speaker 3: get to rolling Garo Steve.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you something though, if you get on

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Speaker 2: the ESPN app right now, I don't know how often

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Speaker 2: you guys use it the never whenever you watch it,

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Speaker 2: whenever you watch you don't watch TV on the ESPN app.

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Speaker 3: I was making it up.

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Speaker 2: Really Okay, Well, I have to use it because I

687
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Speaker 2: have an Xbox. I have the very first I have

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Speaker 2: like Xbox negative five, so on their app right now

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Speaker 2: there's eighty eight. There's eight hundred different channels where you

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Speaker 2: can watch some sort of tennis right now. As far

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Speaker 2: as the NCAA teen tennis is concerned, I've never seen anything.

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Speaker 2: There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,

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Speaker 2: twelve channels where you can watch live nca tennis.

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Speaker 4: I think ESPN plus is actually one of those enablers

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Speaker 4: for the tennis gambling scandals of the past.

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Speaker 1: Oh I like that.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, isn't there some class action lawsuit

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Speaker 5: going on with ESPN Plus or something? Really, I don't

699
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Speaker 5: want to be misinforming people right now.

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Speaker 2: Hey, dude, was gonna if it's ESPN slander, we're here

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Speaker 2: for yeah. So Torres says, French open disager. Which one

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Speaker 2: are your?

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Speaker 3: Every year? Though?

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Speaker 4: Even if I never want to watch another IndyCar race

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Speaker 4: during year in previous years, to me, it's like watching

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Speaker 4: the Kentucky Derby or the World Cup Final.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, what about you, Ian Roddy, any of those do

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Speaker 2: anything for you?

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Speaker 3: This week?

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Speaker 5: I'm bigger into like Formula one and stuff. So there

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Speaker 5: was the Grand Prix earlier today that kind of peaked

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Speaker 5: my interest a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But I'm in next I'm in in Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about next week on the big weekends for racing.

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Speaker 4: For Nevers baseball, you're saying it's one of these one

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Speaker 4: off events so to speak.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know that is fair to Sega.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point because baseball is supposed to be

719
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Speaker 2: starting to take center stage here, right.

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Speaker 4: They purposely had rivalry matchups all weekend this weekend like

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Speaker 4: Yankees Mets tonight.

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Speaker 3: You know what, you know what a sport I enjoy most,

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Speaker 3: You know, Memorial Day weekend. Count how many beverages I

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Speaker 3: can put down at the barbecue.

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Speaker 4: Mata about the lacrosse playoffs always, yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

727
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Speaker 2: You got the lacrosse final four into the championship on Monday.

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Speaker 3: As someone who grew up in Connecticut, that's like the

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Speaker 3: unofficial it's it's warm out, summer's here. Yeah, I got

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Speaker 3: my I got my feet, maybe a little botchy or

731
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Speaker 3: batman or something in the backyard. That's my sport of

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Speaker 3: choice on Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Roddy's is probably the Monaco Grand Prix, right,

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Speaker 2: is that Farian?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: De Seger and I are more I guess you could

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Speaker 2: say Indy five. Of course, I'm all in on softball,

738
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Speaker 2: and Aaron's getting us a little tennis here, all right.

739
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Speaker 3: I like it. I'm here for it.

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Speaker 2: We've got you covered in all the non mainstream sports

741
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Speaker 2: with what we'll be counting down to this coming Memorial

742
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Speaker 2: Day weekend. All right, when we come back, I've got

743
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Speaker 2: a counter to your minimalist idea for the postseason in

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00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: college football, and I got a counter off the tweets

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Speaker 2: to the show tonight.

746
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Speaker 3: We'll dive to that next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

747
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Speaker 2: I got some good tweets coming, and it's the best

748
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Speaker 2: way to stay in touch with the program. Aaron is

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Speaker 2: at Aaron Underscore Tours. It's erin with two a's. I'm

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Speaker 2: at playing show. Everybody make it easy tweets Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: Mark Wright is aren'ie still drunk? I think the Knicks

752
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Speaker 2: fans think they won the NBA title the other night.

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Speaker 3: No, I think they know. Just celebrate how you want.

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Speaker 2: I just think you set yourself up for a little

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Speaker 2: disappointment if that's your big party. After the thunder pulled

756
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Speaker 2: away in the third quarter today, I bet Mike the

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Speaker 2: lepre Kahn broke into song That's for my man Eddie

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Speaker 2: Nature Boy, have you dealt with the Mike the Leprekahn

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Speaker 2: call yet, Aaron Torres.

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Speaker 3: No, we don't generally open up the phone lines on

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Speaker 3: our show, Budd that's a good call, that's a good call.

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Speaker 3: But I'm open. I'm open to it if you want

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Speaker 3: to open No.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no no. We're good and we're good. We're

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Speaker 2: goodther say Ben Mallers. Coming up next for saving Saved

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Speaker 2: by Friday night show one four Am.

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Speaker 3: Send her time. We'll do there.

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Speaker 2: But here's the text tweet I wanted to get to.

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Speaker 2: This is from Mustang Media because I'm I am a

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Speaker 2: sixteen team playoff guy. If we're gonna go there, I'm

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Speaker 2: fine with twelve. Honestly, I'm fine with twelve and the

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Speaker 2: four buys no problem with it. Sixteen is what I

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Speaker 2: want if we're going to go that direction. My saying

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Speaker 2: Mania Rights couldn't be more right. I'm happy the Ponies

775
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: got in, but getting smoked by Penn State was no bueno.

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Speaker 2: I'll still take all the hype and exposure because we

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Speaker 2: got the most coverage we've had since the Pony Express.

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Speaker 3: In al days.

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Speaker 2: So here's my question that I would say from that

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Speaker 2: if cause you don't want you don't want to see

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Speaker 2: go to sixteen because you don't want to see more

782
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: mid games. And I agree with you, we get bad games.

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00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: Then do you just want teams in and bowl games?

784
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: Is that where you you're good with, like more a

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00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 2: Citrus Bowl and a Liberty Bowl and a Memorial Bull

786
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Speaker 2: or whatever bowls out there?

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Speaker 3: Is that where you would rather those teams go. I

788
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Speaker 3: already know what your pushback is going to be when

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Speaker 3: I say this, but I have no pushback. I'm an

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Speaker 3: open book. Well, what I was going to say is that,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think one of the things that made

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Speaker 3: college football so unique was that teams that really, you know,

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Speaker 3: we used the regular season to determine who is actually

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Speaker 3: capable of winning a championship, and then we got a

795
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Speaker 3: playoff largely featuring those teams. And so to me, all

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Speaker 3: I'll really say is, yeah, am I gonna watch every

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00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 3: college football playoff game? Not just because it's my job,

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00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: but because I genuinely enjoy college football? Of course, sure,

799
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Speaker 3: I just think that two things are two things happen

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Speaker 3: the further you expand the playoff is that one you

801
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: are gonna get vastly inferior teams in and even in

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00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: the Mighty SEC this year, we saw that there was

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Speaker 3: a you know, the third, fourth, fifth team. I mean,

804
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: look at what Alabama did when they made their bowl

805
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: game and got embarrassed by Michigan, let alone, I hate

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Speaker 3: to say it, losing to Oklahoma, losing a vag for them. Yeah. So,

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00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: but I think the other thing that does not get

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00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 3: talked about enough is it also totally devalues the regular season.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, I get the whole argument there's more

810
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: games that matter. It's like, yeah, but you know, I

811
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Speaker 3: don't know, like everyone know there's more games that matter.

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Speaker 3: It's like, are there really though, Like, are we really watching?

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Speaker 3: You know, were you really watching Indiana Purdue in the

814
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Speaker 3: last week of the regular season last year because I

815
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Speaker 3: had playoff stakes? No, you were not. I'm sorry, you

816
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Speaker 3: just weren't.

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Speaker 2: Don't lie to me, especially when it was like thirty

818
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Speaker 2: five zip after the first quarter.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, tune in for the first quarter either, So

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Speaker 3: I just you know, I just think it does.

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Speaker 2: I did just so we're just so we're fair because

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Speaker 2: there was nothing else on. It was one of those Yeah,

823
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Speaker 2: I guess I'll watch this for a little bit.

824
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Speaker 3: So I get I guess it just depends on what

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Speaker 3: you're looking for out of your college football viewing experience.

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Speaker 3: Is that, yes, I enjoy the games, Yes I will

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Speaker 3: watch them when they're on. I your anti playoff expansion

828
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Speaker 3: because I'm anti dilution of the regular I'm more anti

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Speaker 3: dilution of the regular season, which is what happens the

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Speaker 3: more you expand the playoff. I'll say this much too.

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Speaker 2: I think you really implode the regular season if you

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Speaker 2: give automatic bids, if you get to four in the

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Speaker 2: SEC four and the Big Ten, and two in both

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Speaker 2: the ACC and the Big twelve. Now, if I'm the

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Speaker 2: ACC and the Big twelve, and this is where we're

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Speaker 2: going and that's what I have in front of me,

837
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Speaker 2: I'm all about it. But I do think it hurts

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Speaker 2: the regular season a lot even more if we get

839
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: to those four automatic bids. Absolutely, And I also wonder,

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Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine a conference championship game, Aaron

841
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Speaker 2: where the one and two seeds.

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Speaker 3: Aren't playing and it's like a playing game. So stupid.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get it, but it's stupid, and especially

844
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Speaker 3: by the way, four automatic bids.

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Speaker 2: But there's gonna be at large bids too, so you

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Speaker 2: can get as many as five or six from a conference. Yeah,

847
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: so it's like, if you lose that game, it still

848
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: might not matter. So it's just we don't have enough

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Speaker 2: time for this.

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Speaker 3: Rent. But I would say that Ohio State winning the

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00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: national championship last year, depending on how you feel about

852
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 3: an expanded playoff, was either the best or worst thing.

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00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: I think it was the worst because it basically proved

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Speaker 3: that basically there's no real game that matters in the

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Speaker 3: regular season. We could discuss it over our two an

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Speaker 3: hour three. I know we're short on time here. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: we don't have to.

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Speaker 2: I just I that's a good counter Like listen, I

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Speaker 2: think it's devaluing the regular season the more teams you

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Speaker 2: added the playoffs, and I think it will continue to

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Speaker 2: the value the regular season. But they're gonna chase the money.

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00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: That's what everyone in college sports needs. Right now. It's

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, stick Gram.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

865
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Speaker 2: This is on vacation at Did you happen to hear

866
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: what Arnie's plan was. He's not even on his trip yet,

867
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 2: he's not even gone.

868
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: He's going with his wife.

869
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 2: Uh, what do you say, Costa Rica or the Minican

870
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: Republic or.

871
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 3: Someone like that. Dominican Republic. He said, Dominican Republic. Thank you.

872
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: They haven't even left yet.

873
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: He's taken the show off tonight because he has to

874
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: get up early tomorrow morning.

875
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: Does that seem kind of soft? Yeah? Yeah, I'd say

876
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: so what time? I mean, what time does it? What

877
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: time is? I think what he's saying like four A.

878
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: I guess four am. But you're on vacation. You're gonna

879
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: sleep on a flight.

880
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: And the Knicks just clinched a spot out of the

881
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals. For goodness sakes, they can be heer

882
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: to celebrate a little disappointed. But the man never really

883
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: takes any time off because, I mean, from what he

884
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: has nothing else to do except for this show on

885
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: Sunday nights and his feelings. And then number two, I

886
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: just I think he would probably drive Beth crazy if

887
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: he didn't have this outlet here on Fox Sports Radio.

888
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: But it's like a precursor to his vacation to not

889
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: do the show tonight.

890
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm about to take that, aren't you the guy that

891
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: told me you don't like taking vacations.

892
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: I do not like Well, first of all, I've got

893
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 2: three kids, man, so I don't want to be around

894
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 2: them anymore than I have to. And then number two,

895
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: we usually drive everywhere, so I'm stuck with him in

896
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: the car with me, and I have the kind of

897
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: wife whom I love. But if I put an AirPod

898
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: in to start listening to one of our podcasts or

899
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: listening to Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app, I

900
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: immediately get what are you doing?

901
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

902
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, I was gonna listen to the show why

903
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 2: don't you talk to me? So my non sports radio time,

904
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: Aaron's kind of hell to be honest with you, okay, which, Oh,

905
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: by the way, I am taking a vacation here in

906
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 2: like late June, so I've got to like mentally prepare

907
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: myself for that.

908
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: Now, that's how bad things are. I will say too.

909
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: You also travel a lot for your work. How many

910
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 3: weeks a year are you on the road between softball

911
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: and football?

912
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, you think about it, probably I'd say

913
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: not quite half, pretty close to it.

914
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's fair. I'm traveling a lot, So

915
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: that's that's very defensible because I don't travel nearly as much,

916
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: and so I literally live for the two to three

917
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: weeks a year that I can just get I travel some.

918
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: I was actually on the road doing something this past week.

919
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: But like I when I go away, but I also

920
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: like when I go away, like I, are you completely

921
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: unplugged one hundred percent? Yes, and look at you. And

922
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 3: I've had to learn how to do that. I also,

923
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: you know, you know how our business is plank, Like

924
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: you know, especially as a guy who mostly covers college sports. Now,

925
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: I will say, like with the basketball portal, that takes

926
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: us pretty deep into the spring. But it's like you

927
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 3: get a pretty nice window where there's not gonna be

928
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: much going on. Yeah, except for of course last year

929
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: when I was in Cabo and Dan Hurley decided an

930
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 3: interview for the Lakers job. But but no, so I

931
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: kind of have it whittled down to a very few

932
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: select weeks that I know it's pretty safe. But yes,

933
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: I do, and I really do. Like I'll leave my

934
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: phone in the room. Like my wife is somebody that

935
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 3: like she just likes being on her phone and just

936
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 3: you know, doing whatever. And I guess it's just because

937
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: of our business. I'm on my phone so much that

938
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: like I'll leave the phone in the room. And what

939
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: I have found is that you know, when I'm usually traveling,

940
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: which is June July. It is amazing how little you

941
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: miss on Twitter and social media and in the world

942
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: of sports when you leave your phone for six or

943
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: eight hours. Just a lot of arguing mostly time. It is.

944
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, people fighting, people fighting is all it is, or

945
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: me trying to fight with so much. But I will

946
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: say just in defensive, Arnie, and to your point, I

947
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: have grown to the point where I'm enjoying. I found

948
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: a few places that I like to go and I

949
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: enjoy getting to go there.

950
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: So that's we're going to one of those places that

951
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 3: can you share.

952
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: And I can't believe I have to admit this because

953
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, I can't stand the Broncos, but I love Colorado.

954
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: I love love Colorado now and so we're going there,

955
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: and that map gets me a little bit fired up.

956
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: So we'll excuse Arnie tonight. The saga's loving it because

957
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: he's able to get in a disager. You're able to

958
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: get an update off without getting interrupted, Sagra.

959
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: Scott got back from a big old vacation himself, so

960
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: that's why he's got his little glow going on right now.

961
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got a vacation from a vacation because

962
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: he's on vacation, and then he doesn't have to deal

963
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: with Arnie tonight, So you've got to be in heabit now.

964
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 4: It's really the listeners that are on vacation tonight. Welcome.

965
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: That's right, it's their God to heaven here this evening,

966
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: all right, I want to hear I want to hit

967
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: a couple of tweets before we get to some NFL

968
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: talk at Aaron Underscore Torres, I'm at playing show at

969
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Here's mister Nobody talking about college football,

970
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: which just ended up being a big topic because Aaron

971
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: and I don't get hang out that often and we

972
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: both love college football and college basketball. Mister Nobody, rights,

973
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: the goal is chasing the money and giving otherwise media

974
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: mediocre coaches and out.

975
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: So yes, they want the expanded playoffs. You're right.

976
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: The regular season gets watered down. College basketball regular season

977
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 2: gets ignored because of the sixty eight teams in a tournament.

978
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: I would also add this, I think unless you're a

979
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: college basketball die hard Air and you're a college basketball diehard,

980
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: I think you're one of the best follows in the

981
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: country and one of the best listens when it comes

982
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: to college basketball.

983
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: But the twelve team.

984
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: Playoff this year did kind of slow down that quick

985
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: turn to college basketball for some people, right, And I

986
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: think that that hurts college basketball more than just the

987
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: sixty eight team watering it down, right.

988
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: Or No, I honestly, I'll be real, I actually did

989
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: not feel that way. I felt like.

990
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: You didn't think that the expanded playoffs slowed people getting

991
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: into college.

992
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: Basketball this year? I didn't know, And I'll tell you why.

993
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: It's because I actually think that the college football season

994
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: is going way too far into January. What I tended

995
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: to see this year was that I think that people

996
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 3: that love college football were really into college football untill

997
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: about the second week of January, and I think that

998
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: overlapped with one the excitement of the playoff to their

999
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: teams are still adding guys in the portal blah blah

1000
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And then what I tended to see was, Yeah,

1001
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 3: if you're an Ohio State fan, you're living and dying

1002
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: every single day. But like if you're an Auburn fan

1003
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: or you're a whatever fan, I don't think that you

1004
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: were like invested in the new cycle. Now again, you

1005
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 3: watch the games. But the other thing I would say too,

1006
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 3: I just think I don't think it hurt college basketball.

1007
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 3: I actually thought it kind of hurt college football. I

1008
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: just think it went too late. Like I look at

1009
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: myself as a big college football fan. But we got to

1010
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 3: the middle of January and I remember I forget what game,

1011
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 3: what round it was, but it was like the weekend

1012
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 3: going into that Bill's Ravens Divisional round game, and all

1013
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: that week that was what I was consuming. Lamar versus Josh,

1014
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: Josh versus Lamar MVP this dah da da da, And

1015
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, but the college football season is

1016
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: still going on, but now it's so far into the

1017
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: calendar that like I actually I thought it was hurt

1018
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 3: a little bit by how late it went into the calendar.

1019
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: That you know, again just my opinion.

1020
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: Well, I live in a college sports market, and I'll

1021
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: absolutely say that. You know, we didn't have a great

1022
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: Our basketball team started out undefeated in non conference play,

1023
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: and you couldn't beg people to go to games because

1024
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: they were invested in the college football portal. And we

1025
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: couldn't get a call on basketball because they were talking

1026
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: about you know who you adding. So this might be

1027
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: kind of unique. And I don't know if most college

1028
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: football cities are like that, college football places where you

1029
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: had teams in the playoffs, maybe so, But I felt like,

1030
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: at least in my world, it absolutely load people getting

1031
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: into college basketball. But if you're an Auburn and you're good,

1032
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: if you're in places where you're good, absolutely would make

1033
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: sense that you're moving on rather quickly. They've got to

1034
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: figure out how to fight this battle with the NFL.

1035
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: Back agree, because that's that's where your biggest fight is.

1036
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: You are now December twentieth and nineteenth and twentieth is

1037
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: first round the playoffs, and you also have a banger

1038
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: of a doubleheader from the NFL on that weekend. Trying

1039
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: to Ian, I think you probably have it off the

1040
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: top of your head. You got like Eagles Commanders and

1041
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: I want to say maybe Steelers Ravens that weekend, right,

1042
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: And so those two games are on the twentieth, and

1043
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: that's the second day of the first round.

1044
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: Of the playoffs.

1045
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: We can sit here in debate whether or not it's

1046
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: hurting the regular season, or whether or not it's hurting

1047
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: fans jumping into college basketball or not. But what we

1048
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: know for certain you're not going to win a battle

1049
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: Aaron with the NFL.

1050
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm sorry, Plank, go ahead. Yeah, I was just

1051
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 3: to say, that's just not gonna happen.

1052
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: You know.

1053
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: My thought is, and I've heard Joe Klatz say this,

1054
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: is that he thinks college football should end on New

1055
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: Year's Day. I don't know how realistic that is. I

1056
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 3: know there's this just move up the season. It's like, well,

1057
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: August is a tough time. It's really hot. And again

1058
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: I'm not a parent, so I don't know, and I'm

1059
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: not trying to, you know, make jokes, but like you know,

1060
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: you said you had three small kids.

1061
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: I mean they're probably well, no, they're not small anymore.

1062
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: I have one small two that are much think they're

1063
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: much cooler than me.

1064
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 3: Well, all I was gonna say was, you know, school

1065
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: doesn't start until sometimes the middle of August, end of August,

1066
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: so I think it's a little harder to just, oh,

1067
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: just start in the beginning of August. I don't think

1068
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: it works that way. But I am in favor of

1069
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 3: and this isn't gonna happen. You already referenced it. I say,

1070
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: get rid of the conference championship. Game weekend. I don't

1071
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: like this notion of play ins to the playoff you

1072
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: know whatever. You know, the the layout, but basically the

1073
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 3: top teams wouldn't even play whatever. I say, just get

1074
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 3: rid of that weekend start. They maybe have one week

1075
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: off to end the regular season, just to get everybody's

1076
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: bodies refreshed, and then just start that puppy, you know,

1077
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: second week of December and try to be done by

1078
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 3: January tenth. Because again, I know you, like you said,

1079
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: you take you know, you're in Norman, you take calls.

1080
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: I just think the deeper you get into January, the

1081
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 3: more investment people have into the NFL playoffs. And to

1082
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: your point, the NFL isn't giving up any ground. And

1083
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: you know, they've kind of owned that mid to late

1084
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 3: December window on Saturdays, on Thursdays, all of that, and

1085
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: so they're not giving up any of that. And so

1086
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: I think that plays a role in all this too.

1087
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 3: You know, I gotta cut here.

1088
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: I was trying to I got a new computer this week,

1089
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 2: and it's it's like, not my computer, but it's does

1090
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: that make any sense?

1091
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: Company's computer? There?

1092
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: You go, like Aaron Torre's enterprises, right, I need to

1093
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: get Chris Plank Enterprises and get it going. But I

1094
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 2: got a great cut on that because you're talking about

1095
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: you're talking about the NFL saying, hey, we're not going

1096
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: to give up any ground. I thought it was interesting

1097
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: this week because the schedule was released the National Football League,

1098
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: and everyone had their opinions about the schedule, release videos

1099
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: and things of that nature. But the one thing that

1100
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: stood out to me was that December twentieth date as

1101
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: a college football fan, and listen to what Mike North.

1102
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: He's not our Mike North up in Chicago, but the

1103
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: Mike North who's the executive EP of scheduling for the NFL.

1104
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: And you think that they're gonna have some grace for

1105
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 2: the NFL or for college football going forward.

1106
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: Listen to this found this way.

1107
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 6: We work around them in our schedule all the time.

1108
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 6: All their CFT bowl games and playoff games are in

1109
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 6: our buildings in Dallas and Atlanta and Miami and all

1110
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 6: these places. We work around them. Sometimes we move start

1111
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 6: times for Monday Night football to avoid the Rose Bowl.

1112
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 7: Like.

1113
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 6: We work with them very closely. We are cooperative, we

1114
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 6: are friends. It's not that we're competing with college football.

1115
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 6: That third Saturday in December. That's an NFL day. We've

1116
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 6: played on the third Saturday in December thirty seven of

1117
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 6: the last forty years. As the college has expanded this

1118
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 6: CFP playoffs and decided they needed more windows and more

1119
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 6: weeks to play their games, they really almost didn't have

1120
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 6: a choice but to come into one of our days.

1121
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. So there you go.

1122
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: There's your fight, and you're not gonna win it. You're

1123
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: not gonna win it.

1124
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1125
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 2: So your only option, I think is gonna be aaron

1126
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: is to move things up because you're now getting into

1127
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: windows where the NFL is like, hey, we're playing here.

1128
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 2: We're not gonna move for you. We already move enough,

1129
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 2: So best of luck. You're just kind of stuck here

1130
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: with this.

1131
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: So that is a great sound. I had not heard

1132
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: it before. Here's the other thing, Plank, that I was

1133
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: thinking about that I know, you know, as somebody who

1134
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 3: knows this space as well as you do. My other

1135
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: thought was, when people say, you know, college football has

1136
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: to sit down with the NFL and figure this out,

1137
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: who is Roger Goodell supposed to call exactly easy to

1138
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: talk to, is it? Bill Hancock, the commissioner of the CFP,

1139
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 3: is it Greg Sanche, who we know is the most

1140
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: Bill Did you say Bill Hancock? Do did you say

1141
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: we retired? Oh retired? Okay, yes, I thought you said

1142
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: that's I thought you said something else that was a

1143
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: signal of the end of something very much alive, very

1144
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 3: much alive, might be a major league Yeah aad, Yeah,

1145
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 3: we'll cross him off the list then. So yeah, so,

1146
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: like you know, and I think it speaks to one.

1147
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: First of all, I understand, like everything in college sports,

1148
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: we took too long to get here, and now it's

1149
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 3: scramble mode, full speed ahead. So I do understand that

1150
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: some of this is on previous leaders, previous administrations, previous whatever.

1151
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: But now we're going so full speed ahead. And again,

1152
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: you know, to your point from a minute ago, we

1153
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: never even took time to figure out if this twelve

1154
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: team playoff is going to work before we immediately go

1155
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 3: to what we assume will be sixteen, and you don't

1156
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 3: think about all of the problems that are coming with it.

1157
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: And so but I think one of the biggest problems

1158
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: that college sports has, which again as an insider like yourself,

1159
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: you know, is that there's not even anybody for we're like,

1160
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: like say, Roger Goodell said, listen, we want to work

1161
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 3: with you. We want to figure this out.

1162
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: Who is Roder Godell supposed to call four or five

1163
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: different people exactly?

1164
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: And that's part of the problem here is there's just

1165
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: we love it. It's the best, but it is also

1166
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: just the absolute worst in certain instances. And this is

1167
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: a perfect example of.

1168
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 2: Nick Saban was part of this committee, coalition whatever the

1169
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: term is that they had talked about putting together. He

1170
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 2: and Cody Campbell. Cody's the big money guy at Texas Tech.

1171
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: And what was the first thing that Nick Saban said

1172
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: whenever he had the opportunity to speak publicly about it,

1173
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: He's like, well, I don't even know if we.

1174
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 3: Really need a coalition or committee or whatever.

1175
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: He's like, I want to be part of that because

1176
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to sit through all the bs you

1177
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: got to go through. Someone's just got to be a

1178
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: commission of football and accept that it's different than every

1179
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: other sport. By the way, quickly, before we get to

1180
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: our buddy, Todd Furman and guys, keep the tweets coming.

1181
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: We'll get to tons of them through the show tonight.

1182
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm curious, are you an expansionist when it comes to

1183
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: the NCAAA tournament or I'm sorry anti expansion when it

1184
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: comes to the NCAA tournament.

1185
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: Are you happy where it is now?

1186
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: Or with the growing numbers of teams at play Division

1187
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: one basketball, d you say, hey, this tournament and it's

1188
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: the ability to include more teams has to grow as well.

1189
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 3: I am a billion percent in favor of keeping it

1190
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 3: exactly where it is. Me too, there was no there.

1191
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: There has probably never been a team that has a

1192
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 3: legitimate gripe in a sixty eighteen era about being left out.

1193
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 3: And you know, you look at this year. It was

1194
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: like nobody at North Carolina and they found a way.

1195
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: Texas of course was the fourteenth SEC team, And you know,

1196
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: and I also think you know one to the point

1197
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 3: that you brought up a second ago. I love college basketball.

1198
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 3: I follow it because the sport's been good to me

1199
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 3: and it allows me to do what I do. But

1200
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 3: I also understand that really there is no interest until

1201
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: the middle to the end of February. It's just the

1202
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 3: reality there just isn't. So that's part of it. The Again,

1203
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: it's the same as I said with the college football Playoff,

1204
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: the more you expand it the more it continues to

1205
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 3: dilute the regular season. And then also I just think,

1206
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: you know, and this is something that again, this is

1207
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 3: the conversation we just had about the college football playoff.

1208
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 3: The symmetry of Okay, you get a couple opening days there,

1209
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 3: you know, Thursday, Tuesday, Wednesday, you play the the I

1210
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 3: call them the first four. They call it the first four.

1211
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 3: I just call them playing games because that's what they are.

1212
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 3: You know, you start messing with the symmetry of having

1213
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: that four day extravaganza Thursday to Sunday, where now you're

1214
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: playing games all day Tuesday Wednesday, you lose what makes

1215
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: the tournament the tournament and what kind of makes it

1216
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: this unofficial holiday where people take time off, they go

1217
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: travel to Vegas, they go travel to the sportsbook near

1218
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 3: their house. And yeah, I just I mean, listen, you

1219
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 3: can have too much of something. I mean this notion

1220
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: that oh yeah, you can never have too much of

1221
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: a good thing. Okay, yeah, yeah, eat ice cream for

1222
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: three meals a day, and see what your doctor tells

1223
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 3: you after a couple months. You know.

1224
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: So it's just I agree, Yeah, I like it where

1225
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: it is right now. Aaron one hundred percent.

1226
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 3: We ask you this as an Oklahoma fan before they

1227
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: went on their little run towards the end of the year.

1228
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: Were you clamoring for more Oklahoma basketball when they were

1229
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: on like an eleven game losing streak in the SEC

1230
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: and they were right on the bubble the whole time? Nah? Exactly.

1231
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: But I do love me some Porter Moosers, so I

1232
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: wanted him to be able to keep this job, and

1233
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: thankfully he did. When we come back, or Man, Todd Furman,

1234
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: we'll throw some of the college football playoff conversations in

1235
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: front of him, but we got NBA Eastern and Western

1236
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: Conference final matchups to preview. We'll start diving all in

1237
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: next right here on Fox Sports Radio with Aaron Torres

1238
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: in for Arnie Spaniard. Tonight, I'm Chris Plank the SEGA

1239
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: coming up with an update in about ten minutes from now.

1240
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: We're abrought to be joined by our buddy, Todd Furman

1241
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: the Bet the Board podcast. All right, Todd, so okay,

1242
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: see moves on in an absolutely dominating Oh we don't

1243
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: have him yet.

1244
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, my bad, my bad. I just assumed.

1245
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: You know what happens when you assume in this you

1246
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: make an ass out of you and me. So Todd

1247
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: Ferman coming up here in just mere moments minus three

1248
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: point fifty five for the thunder in this series, t

1249
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: Wolves plus two to eighty five. That number surprised you

1250
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: at all. Is how big of a favorite OKC is

1251
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: over Minnesota?

1252
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does as a matter of fact, And I

1253
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 3: understand the concept of where Minnesota was seeded coming into

1254
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: the series, but you know, very baseline, you know, casual

1255
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 3: analysis that Todd will probably rip apart when he comes on. No,

1256
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: like I get that, you know, the seating was whatever.

1257
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 3: But this is also a team that played in the

1258
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,959
Speaker 3: Western Conference Finals last year. I think they're actually a

1259
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: better version of themselves because listen, I think Karl Anthony

1260
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: Towns is a talented player, and I understand why they

1261
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 3: tried to pair them with Rudy Gobert, but go bear

1262
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: with kind of that nase reed kind of more of

1263
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 3: a I guess Karl Anthony Towns is a stretch guy too,

1264
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 3: but I don't know, I think it works. And so yes,

1265
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: to answer your question directly, I actually am a little

1266
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: bit surprised where the odds are right now in that series.

1267
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: There he is, without an further ado Todd Furman, what

1268
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: do you think you surprised to see that number minus

1269
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: three fifty five for the thunder being as big a

1270
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: favorites as they are over Minnesota in this series.

1271
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 7: I'm not just knowing how the thunder of Power rated

1272
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 7: all season long. And to Aaron's point, I caught the

1273
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 7: tail end of your guys discussion there. Look, there's a

1274
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 7: reason that the Nuggets end up losing that series but

1275
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 7: go five and two against the spread. So it's a

1276
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 7: distinct possibility that oddsmakers are currently overvaluing Oklahoma City, not

1277
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 7: just from a game to game standpoint, but also in

1278
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 7: the big picture for a series. So I understand why

1279
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,479
Speaker 7: the number is what it is. Would I be running

1280
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 7: into the window to back OKC and Lake, you know,

1281
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 7: three dollars and fifty cents to make a dollar? Absolutely not.

1282
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 7: I'd be much more inclined to make a compelling case

1283
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 7: for the Timberwolves, thinking that some of their scarts issue

1284
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 7: could push them across the finish line in the Western

1285
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 7: Conference Final.

1286
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 3: This might be a dumb question, Todd, but you know,

1287
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: sometimes when you get a huge brand, the Lakers, Notre Dame,

1288
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 3: Michigan football, whatever, they become a very public side. Are

1289
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: the Knicks a public side or have they been so

1290
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 3: bad for so long that people have been afraid and all?

1291
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: That's kind of it's a serious question, But what do

1292
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: you make are they super public just because of how

1293
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 3: big the brand is?

1294
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 7: Well, first things first, this is a Sunday night segment

1295
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 7: that usually Arnie is in your chair errand so there's

1296
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 7: no such thing as a dumb question when Arnie isn't there,

1297
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 7: So you're automatically resolved of any question you fire.

1298
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: It's not really a compliment to me as much as

1299
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 3: it is an insult to Arnie. But anyway, that's okay,

1300
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 3: continue with the kind of how.

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Speaker 7: All of it works. But no, when you mentioned public teams,

1302
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 7: the Knicks really aren't one of those public, high profile

1303
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 7: teams that are going to have a premium attach to them,

1304
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 7: likes the Cowboys or the Lakers. For just the reason

1305
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 7: that you outlined, it's been a franchise that has been

1306
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 7: mired in mediocrity and that's probably the best way to

1307
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 7: put it over the last twenty to twenty five years

1308
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 7: that when you're looking at this Knicks team from top

1309
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 7: to bottom, it's all a question about how you try

1310
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 7: and assess the value of the win against the Boston Celtics.

1311
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 7: Did that have more to do with the Knicks and

1312
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 7: injured Jason Tatum late order to have more to do

1313
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 7: with the Boston Celtics really struggling again. The Indiana Pacers

1314
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 7: have been an undervalued commodity, not just this postseason, but

1315
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 7: last year. I think a lot of people forget that

1316
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 7: they really pushed Boston a lot more than what that

1317
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 7: series score line suggested in the Eastern Conference Finals. So

1318
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 7: as the number continues to climb a little bit, I

1319
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 7: think the Pacers are a relatively difficult matchup, knowing that

1320
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 7: they can do a number of different things. They have

1321
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 7: a deeper bench than the Knicks, who probably utilize a

1322
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 7: seven to eight man rotation. And it wouldn't shock me

1323
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 7: at all if we were talking about Indiana going back

1324
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 7: to their building four game three, this series notdded up

1325
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 7: at one apiece, with them having snatched home court advantage

1326
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 7: away from a next team that really hasn't played its

1327
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 7: best basketball at MSG this postseason.

1328
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: Todd, I feel like you, more than anyone else that

1329
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: comes on Fox Sports Radio, can talk some hockey and

1330
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: talking intelligently, and I don't know maybe give Maple Leave

1331
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: fans some advice on how they should feel tonight, how

1332
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: should they handle this because that was the definition of

1333
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: a gut punch man.

1334
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 7: Well, they say the sign of insanity is doing the

1335
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 7: same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

1336
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 7: That has kind of been the mantra of this May

1337
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 7: Police franchise going back to twenty eighteen twenty nineteen when

1338
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 7: they put together their quote unquote Core four that now

1339
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 7: has a grand total of two series victories on their resumes.

1340
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 7: Yet we're going to try and use that same nickname

1341
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 7: to put them on the pedestal of the Yankees, who

1342
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 7: had five World Series championships for their Core four. So

1343
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 7: I think what you're going to see this year in

1344
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 7: Toronto or this offseason, I should say I would be

1345
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 7: surprised that Brandon Shanahan is back as the general manager

1346
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 7: of all things Toronto May Beliefs. I think Brad Tree

1347
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 7: Living has a very difficult job on his hands. But

1348
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 7: in my opinion, Mitch Martiner played his final game as

1349
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 7: a member of the Toronto May belief If I was

1350
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 7: in that seat, I'd be looking to try and shop

1351
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 7: Austin Matthews aggressively and see if a team in a

1352
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 7: bigger market might want to overpay, and I'd look to

1353
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 7: build around William Melander, Matthew and I, who I think

1354
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 7: are the faith and future of this organization. Because you

1355
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 7: mentioned a gut punch, I'll call that a gutless effort

1356
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 7: in game seven. On the heels of a gutless effort

1357
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 7: in game five, you can't get beat even by a

1358
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 7: defending Stanley Cup champion by a combined score of twelve

1359
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 7: to two, and two of your most pivotal games of

1360
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 7: the season after you built a little bit of momentum

1361
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 7: after to nothing win in Sunrise in game six.

1362
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 3: As a person who whose uncle was a Hartford Whaler

1363
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: season ticket holder, I've never forgiven Brendan Shanahan for demanding trade.

1364
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: So take that Brandan Shanahan. Todd Herlin says, you're out.

1365
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 7: Hey, look I mean Aaron, I have a Ron Francis

1366
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,479
Speaker 7: replica jersey that sits in my closet. I will still

1367
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 7: make the cake to this very day that the Hartford

1368
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 7: Whaler's logo is one of the best in sports. Now,

1369
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 7: I do think it's a little bit blasphemous. At the

1370
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 7: Carolina Hurricane, oh my goodness to don The Hartford Whaler's

1371
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 7: logo is part of the IP rights, but that's a

1372
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 7: different discussion for a very different day.

1373
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 3: I will say this, It has nothing to do with

1374
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: this segment, but I went to a Los Angeles Rams

1375
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: game in December of last year wore a Hartford Whaler's

1376
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 3: hat and got more compliments on that hat than pretty

1377
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 3: much any piece of paraphernalia that I've ever worn. So

1378
01:03:58,880 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.

1379
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 7: I respect it. I respect it more than I could

1380
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 7: put in a word.

1381
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 3: Real quick, is there do you think there's any value

1382
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: four teams left in the chase for the Cup two

1383
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: seed versus the three seed in the East and West?

1384
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: Or are we at the point now in the playoffs

1385
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 3: where there's probably not much value on.

1386
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 7: Anybody, Not so much in the futures market. But I

1387
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 7: do think it's interesting because when we look at the

1388
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 7: dynamic for the final four in the NBA, you have

1389
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 7: three franchises that have never won an NBA championship and

1390
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 7: playing I'm saying it the right way because I don't

1391
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 7: count anything the Sonics won before moving to Oklahoma City

1392
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 7: on that ledger, So three teams that haven't won and

1393
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 7: the Knicks. We may as well go back thirty seven

1394
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 7: generations since Arnie was twenty five year old, way back

1395
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 7: in the seventies to find the Knicks championship. Meanwhile, in

1396
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 7: the NHL, we have the exact same four teams that

1397
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 7: we're here a season ago, and I think we could

1398
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 7: see a little bit of a role reversal, more so

1399
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 7: in the Eastern Conference than in the West. I mean,

1400
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 7: I know, Carolina was blank four nothing, and Ron Britdenmore

1401
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 7: has never won a conference final game while he's been

1402
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 7: the bench boss for Carolina. But this team feels a

1403
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 7: bit different. And I think you saw a little bit

1404
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 7: off fatigue in Florida's game, not necessarily tonight, of course,

1405
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 7: but for some stretches. I think Carolina finds a way

1406
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 7: to exact a measure revenge and they get out of

1407
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 7: the Eastern Conference. And the Oilers were my pick before

1408
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 7: the playoffs started, so I'm not jumping off that bandwagon.

1409
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 7: It feels like all of that scar tissue accumulation for

1410
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 7: the Oilers battling back last year against the Panthers, just

1411
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 7: to come up short in Game seven will be what

1412
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 7: propels Connor McDavid and Leon Dryside across the finish line.

1413
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 7: So Edmonton might pick to win the Cup, but I

1414
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 7: would not be betting them in the future's market. I

1415
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 7: don't think there's enough.

1416
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: Upside Aaron talking about the Rams gives us the ability

1417
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: to segue smoothly to some football talk.

1418
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 3: Can you they catch your eye on Wednesday's schedule release.

1419
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 7: I think it's always fascinating to see which teams the

1420
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 7: league wants to showcase on some of the biggest stages.

1421
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 7: And while I'm not going to quite say it's apples

1422
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,959
Speaker 7: to apples, the Washington Commanders heading into this year feel

1423
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 7: very similar to this stage that the league tried to

1424
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 7: put the Houston Texans on a season ago as a

1425
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 7: sophomore quarterback, So it's a little bit of buyer beware.

1426
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 7: Sometimes it's a much different Dynams to go from being

1427
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 7: the hunter to the hunted. And we'll see if Jade

1428
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 7: Daniels and this Commander's team are up for the task.

1429
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 7: I'll even go one step further, guys and kind of

1430
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 7: put them on upset alert Week one. Wouldn't shock me

1431
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 7: if the Giants, whether it's Russell Wilson or Jamis Winston

1432
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 7: under center, find a way to beat the Commanders outright

1433
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 7: of the seven point dog. The Lions schedule looks to

1434
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 7: be a little bit difficult on paper, but they do

1435
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 7: have a rest advantage that I think will pay dividends.

1436
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 7: I believe it's five teams that they'll play on short

1437
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,919
Speaker 7: weeks coming off of Monday Night football, so we'll see

1438
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 7: how a new offensive and defensive coordinator fare there, and

1439
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 7: one team that I think was dealt a very fourtuitous

1440
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 7: hand after having one of the more difficult schedules. I'm

1441
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 7: not buying them in the market, but the forty nine

1442
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 7: ers should be thrilled with the way their schedule shakes out,

1443
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 7: and we'll see if the newly minted two hundred and

1444
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 7: fifty plus million dollar man in brock Purty can get

1445
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers back to the top of the

1446
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 7: NFC West and into the postseason.

1447
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: Two part question on college football, No, it's probably a

1448
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 3: little early to do like the serious deep dives, because

1449
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 3: you know, this portal thing just keeps rosters and fluck

1450
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 3: so late into the spring. But the two part questions

1451
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 3: is pretty straightforward. Is one, do you find it less

1452
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 3: interesting to bet national championship futures because there's these additional

1453
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: rounds of the playoff, and frankly in Ohio State or

1454
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: Texas is just better built to do it than most

1455
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 3: other teams. But then the second part is again knowing

1456
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: that it's early. Are there any say, conference championship lines

1457
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: or maybe a line to make the college football Playoff

1458
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 3: that has caught your eye early?

1459
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 7: It's definitely a different dynamic when you're looking at the

1460
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 7: national championship futures now than what it would have been

1461
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 7: in the four team playoff or of course the BCS

1462
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 7: era because one loss, two losses, or in some cases

1463
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 7: three losses not a death now. So sometimes you can

1464
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 7: benefit by waiting to try and see how the market

1465
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 7: could overreact to one data point. And a team that

1466
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 7: I know is getting an awful lot of buzz early on,

1467
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 7: and rightfully so is Clemson. We've seen their oddso in

1468
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 7: the national title bet down from thirty to one into

1469
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 7: the mid teens. If they were to lose their season opener,

1470
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 7: there's a chance that that number drifts out into the

1471
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 7: low twenty and you'll be able to come back in

1472
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 7: over the top. One team that did take some money

1473
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 7: at real long shot prices, where the Michigan Wolverines. Their

1474
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 7: schedule looks good, and if Bryce Underweld or mikey Keeam

1475
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 7: give them a little bit more stability at quarterback, you

1476
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 7: can understand why there's some optimism. But oddsmakers aren't dummies

1477
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 7: by any stretch of the imagination, and there's a reason

1478
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 7: why I'd say, depending on the book, anywhere from eight

1479
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 7: to ten to twelve teams all priced at twenty to

1480
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 7: one or shorter, and they're all some of the perennial

1481
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 7: blue bloods that are up there. The team is most

1482
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 7: likely to have an inside track. So you kind of

1483
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 7: have to see when the betting market decides it wants

1484
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 7: to overreact to an early season result, that's not going

1485
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 7: to be indicative of how these teams are going to

1486
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 7: look now in terms of some of the conference stuff

1487
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 7: that's out there. Now, you know one of the leagues

1488
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 7: that I think will be the most compelling, not the

1489
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 7: SEC or the Big Ten. I think the Big twelve,

1490
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 7: yet again, has a ton of parody. When you go

1491
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 7: through this league, and you can make a case, at

1492
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 7: least right now for five to six different teams, you

1493
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 7: get a player like Devin dan Pierre that comes in

1494
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 7: to give Utah a little bit more pop at the

1495
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 7: quarterback position. BUYU maintains Cotton new but great under the

1496
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 7: radar quarterbacks as far as national media is concerned. Not

1497
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 7: for you guys to follow the sport in what Sam

1498
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 7: Levit can do at ASU or what we're going to

1499
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 7: get Sawyer Robertson at Baylor. So interesting conference. That is

1500
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 7: the one that's going to fascinate me the most. And

1501
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 7: the team I want to dig into a little bit

1502
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 7: more tho it will be the Houston Cougars. I think

1503
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 7: they get an upgrade with Connor Wegman at quarterback, and

1504
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 7: I've always loved Willie Fritz at every step of the way.

1505
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 7: Just not sure that roster is built to try and

1506
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 7: be a little bit of a Cinderella. There at a

1507
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 7: price tag around forty to one. Just yet.

1508
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, great, great stuff. Hey Tom, have an awesome

1509
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 3: week man.

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Speaker 2: Everybody check out the Bet the Board podcast and I'm

1511
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: sure Arnie you'll have a wild bet for you coming

1512
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: up next Saturday, our Sunday.

1513
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 3: Excuse me?

1514
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, one thing before I go, Chris, I got

1515
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,759
Speaker 7: to flip it back to Houstince. You are the college

1516
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 7: softball guru. How do I contextualize Liberty knocking off Texas

1517
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 7: A and M and punching their ticket to the super regionals.

1518
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: By it's like a sixteen beating one in the NCAA tournament.

1519
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: It's very similar to that. Now it's different because you

1520
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 2: have well, I guess it's really not and they had

1521
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 2: to do twice. They had to do three times. That

1522
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 2: had to beat him three times. Man, that's insane. So yeah,

1523
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: that's how I would say it. It's like your BC

1524
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 2: beating Purdue. It's like who did Farley Dickinson beat Aaron who?

1525
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 7: Who was the FDU over Purdue? And u NBC over

1526
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 7: UVa's That's.

1527
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: Why I had to be Texas A and M on

1528
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 3: the other side though, right, that was what I was

1529
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 3: thinking when when you mentioned it earlier, Plank, I was like,

1530
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 3: of course it was Texas A and M that was

1531
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 3: on the other side of that, so gad to be.

1532
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's wild, man, this is gonna be crazy.

1533
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun super Regional. Can I start betting

1534
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: on it yet or do we have odds on this

1535
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: will be to the Teletworld Series.

1536
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 7: Did not shop around aggressively to see if there were numbers.

1537
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 7: Typically we don't get odds on the women's side until

1538
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 7: we get to Oklahoma City, but maybe with the super

1539
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 7: regionals with more expansive menus. Now, but you know, Plank,

1540
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 7: you have to take full advantage of mister Torres their

1541
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 7: ride shotgun with you because we know he is a

1542
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 7: college baseball guy. True, but I'm sure he's already been

1543
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 7: studying the brackets before they get released. So we know

1544
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 7: who's gonna make the field of sixty four with a

1545
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 7: chance to get to Omahawk.

1546
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 3: Well, Yukon's won like twenty three of twenty five in

1547
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 3: our somehow, not in the field right now, but anyway,

1548
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 3: I'll take that up with Kendall Rodgers another time, even

1549
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 3: though he has no idea who I am. But that's there.

1550
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: You go, Thanks Todd. We'll talk to you next week.

1551
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 7: A pleasure.

1552
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: It's always a good show. We can get a D

1553
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 2: one baseball shout out? Yeah, all right, Steve de Sager,

1554
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: speaking of shoutouts, is in the house? Run a little late, sorry, Steve.

1555
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: We got to get caught up on everything in the

1556
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 2: world of sports.

1557
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 3: What's going on?

1558
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 4: You mentioned the Liberty Game, and yes, more than once

1559
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,520
Speaker 4: had to win at the number one team in the country.

1560
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 4: This hadn't happened in the twenty years of this seeding

1561
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 4: in softball that the one seed nationally is out in

1562
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 4: the regionals. But Texas A and M was beaten and

1563
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,839
Speaker 4: we were waiting to see who Liberty will be facing

1564
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 4: in the best of three super regions.

1565
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 3: Going on. My gosh, Oregon has.

1566
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 4: Tied it seven to seven against Stanford. They're in the

1567
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 4: seventh inning. But the other late game with Arnie's Arizona Wildcats. Yeah,

1568
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 4: it's over Wildcats at home.

1569
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 2: Oh, they lost when they were hosting a regional Holly

1570
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 2: Smokes Arizona.

1571
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 4: Arizona with a very proud soft tradition. This is an

1572
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 4: incredibly rare event for them losing at home in Tucson.

1573
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 4: Ole Miss advances to face Arkansas on a best of

1574
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 4: three super regional next weekend. We mentioned earlier number two

1575
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 4: Oklahoma against Alabama next weekend and a best of three.

1576
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 4: And by the way, we do have the NBA's Conference

1577
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 4: finals starting this week. Oklahoma City will be there, clearly

1578
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 4: the one seed from the regular season with a sixty

1579
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 4: eight and fourteen record. But the note from Associated Press

1580
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 4: is in the NBA playoffs these past six years Most

1581
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 4: of the teams that have been making the conference finals

1582
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 4: were not one or two seeds, whereas the previous six

1583
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 4: years usually it was always a one or two seed

1584
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 4: making the NBA Conference Finals. It's Oklahoma City hosting Minnesota

1585
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 4: to start the Western Conference Finals on Tuesday. Ok see

1586
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 4: a one to twenty five ninety three winner at home

1587
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 4: today in a Game seven to eliminate Denver. Thirty five

1588
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 4: points for Shay Gilgis Alexander In the NHL Playoffs, a

1589
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 4: Game seven at two Toronto went to Florida six to

1590
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 4: one over the Leafs. The Maple Leafs have lost seven

1591
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 4: straight game sevens. Scottie Scheffler won the PGA Championship by

1592
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 4: five strokes NASCAR's All Star Race tonight to Christopher Bell.

1593
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 4: Fox TV will have the Indy five hundred next Sunday.

1594
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 4: Robert Schwartzman ere in the poll today, the first Indy

1595
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 4: five hundred rookies since nineteen eighty three to win the poll.

1596
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 4: He is from Israel. Fox has all the IndyCar races

1597
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 4: this year, including the one on the Streets of Detroit.

1598
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 4: The next weekend after the five hundred, Carlos Alcarez took

1599
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 4: the Italian Open sweeping number one. Yonick Sitter of Italy

1600
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 4: Center just back on the tour, but he's now been

1601
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 4: beaten by Alcarez four straight times. The French Open starts

1602
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 4: next Sunday. In Major League Soccer, Orlando beat slumping Miami

1603
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 4: three to nothing, and the LA Galaxy scored late to

1604
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 4: tie LAFC two to two. Guys, we have the UFL going.

1605
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 4: The Spring Football League's regular season ends in two weeks.

1606
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 4: On Fox TV, DC is six and two. It won

1607
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 4: thirty three thirty over Arlington. Apparently that was an exciting finish,

1608
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 4: but the last two minutes of the game could not

1609
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 4: be seen on ABC because they switched to the basketball

1610
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 4: pregame show instead. Congratulations Saturday, Michigan now six and two

1611
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 4: one at Houston. The quarterback Danny Eetling from LSU and

1612
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 4: Purdue through three touchdown passes. Saint Louis had paid attendance

1613
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 4: of thirty thousand. Yesterday, Saint Louis six and two won

1614
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 4: twenty nine twenty eight over Birmingham with a late touchdown.

1615
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 4: Quarterback Max Duggan from TCU had a couple of touchdown runs.

1616
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 4: And Sunday Night baseball's game had the Yankees eight to

1617
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 4: two winners against the Mets thanks to six runs in

1618
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 4: the bottom of the eighth, Cody Bellinger hit a late

1619
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 4: grand slam. He went three for three six RBIs. Meanwhile,

1620
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 4: the Mets offense went three for thirty and struck out

1621
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 4: eleven times.

1622
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 3: Back to you, thanks Steve Hey.

1623
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: A reminder you need to check out the Fox Sports

1624
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: Radio YouTube channel. Tons of great videos from many of

1625
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio shows. Just search Fox Sports Radio

1626
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: on YouTube and you'll see a bunch whole bunch of

1627
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: video highlights from our programs and be sure to subscribe

1628
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: so you always have to access to our Fox Sports

1629
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 2: Radio videos on YouTube. Oh we got live action, I

1630
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 2: completely I'm digging around. I've got Sports Center on, I've

1631
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 2: got the CBS. Do you ever watch the CBS Sports HQ.

1632
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. It's just not like a NonStop news

1633
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: show on old school ESPN News right.

1634
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 3: Yes, just NonStop and I love it.

1635
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: Top of the seventh inning, Oregon and Stanford tied at

1636
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: seven and a chance to host a super regional potentially

1637
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,839
Speaker 2: on the line. Here, So good stuff in my beloved

1638
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 2: sport of college softball. If you need some live action

1639
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: during the show tonight, all right, Mord Seger when we

1640
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 2: come back plus airon Torres and I have not really

1641
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 2: dug into anything NFL related. We got schedule thoughts, we've

1642
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: got new playoff seating thoughts, and we've got pretty getting

1643
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 2: paid to dive into coming up right here on Fox

1644
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. All right, we are back on the clock.

1645
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 2: I think kind of to erin Toys, I'm Chris Plank

1646
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 2: Arnie out tonight.

1647
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 3: Steve Seger, what is what is Jason Martin's the Steve Cast?

1648
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 3: What does he call this?

1649
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 4: To segment?

1650
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: He says, segment? Yes, I was Steve Cast. I just

1651
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: made that up off the top of my head.

1652
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1653
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 3: Our Sunday Night version very much.

1654
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 4: An ultimate cast yact.

1655
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 3: That what you got.

1656
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 4: It's only on the OCHO now that the Denver Nuggets

1657
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 4: have been eliminated. AP reports that Russell Westbrook's rating for

1658
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 4: this series against Oklahoma City he was he was a

1659
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 4: minus ninety two on the court for the series, which

1660
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 4: would be the worst for any player this decade in

1661
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 4: a playoff series.

1662
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 3: And then you've got the.

1663
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 4: Toronto Maple Leafs. My goodness, what a history. I know

1664
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 4: they'll be very proud and say, look at all the

1665
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,480
Speaker 4: Stanley Cups we've won. Can we just talk about our lifetimes?

1666
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 4: Because the leaf just for the last twenty years, they've

1667
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 4: been in a Game seven in the playoffs seven times.

1668
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 4: They've now lost their last seven game sevens in a

1669
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 4: row at home six to one to Florida tonight, So

1670
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 4: the Panthers go to a conference final, and for a

1671
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 4: team to get beaten at home by at least five

1672
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 4: goals more than once in a single playoff series had

1673
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:19,440
Speaker 4: only happened once since nineteen forty six in the NHL postseason,

1674
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 4: but that's what happened in this second round best of

1675
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 4: seven to the Leafs as they're eliminated by Florida. The

1676
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,919
Speaker 4: Toronto Maple Leafs have made the playoffs nine straight seasons,

1677
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 4: but they have failed to reach a conference final or

1678
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 4: let's say, the NHL Final Four, in any of these

1679
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 4: So that's the second longest streak of its kind in

1680
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 4: the history of the NHL postseason. The record belongs to

1681
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 4: the Saint Louis Blues, who through two thousand made the

1682
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 4: playoffs fourteen straight years but didn't make a single conference

1683
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 4: final in that whole run. The Maple Leafs haven't been

1684
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 4: in a Stanley Cup final since nineteen sixty seven. We're

1685
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 4: getting close to sixty years since they've done so, so

1686
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 4: I know they can say, hey, hey, we're number two

1687
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 4: all time in Stanley Cup victories. We won the Cup

1688
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 4: thirteen times in our long and proud history. It is

1689
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 4: a long and proud history. But the last time they

1690
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 4: were even in the Stanley Cup final, there were only

1691
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 4: six teams in the league. If you look at the

1692
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 4: standings for nineteen sixty seven, six teams in the league

1693
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 4: top four made the playoffs. Toronto was third place out

1694
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 4: of six.

1695
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 3: It's like Indiana basketball. They're like, we got nine championships.

1696
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, eight of them came before World War One.

1697
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 3: It was like Michigan football until recent years.

1698
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 4: Colleague. You know in nineteen oh one we were okay, let.

1699
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 3: Me talking about fielding Yost. I got a good fielding

1700
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 3: Yost story for you. Today it's coming with cowboys.

1701
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like cowboys in most of our lifetimes. Well,

1702
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 4: not happy with tonight's NASCAR All Star Race with Joey Legato.

1703
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 4: This is the guy who dominated the All Star Race

1704
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 4: last year at the short track, led literally almost every

1705
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 4: lap last year and he led twenty of lapse tonight,

1706
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 4: a race high one hundred and thirty nine compared to

1707
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 4: twenty eight laps led for the winner, Christopher Bell. There

1708
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 4: was a new thing with this year's race.

1709
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 3: There was a.

1710
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 4: Promoter's caution late in the race, while Legano held a

1711
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 4: comfortable lead. They pause things, slow the action, bunch the field.

1712
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 4: This was introduced by the Speedway Motorsports CEO, and as

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01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 4: Legano said afterwards after finishing second and losing his lead late,

1714
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 4: I am ticked off right now. Dang it, we had

1715
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 4: the fastest car. You get to pause. I'm trying to

1716
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 4: choose my words correctly on the caution situation. I got

1717
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 4: bit by it. So I am one frustrated dot dot dot.

1718
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 4: I am all about no gimmicks with the caution. I'm

1719
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 4: all about that. I'm just me and that CEO not

1720
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 4: see an eye to eye right now. Okay, I gotta

1721
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 4: have a word with him.

1722
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 3: Wow.

1723
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 4: So the man who took the million dollar first prize,

1724
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 4: Christopher Bell. Apparently NASCAR does not list the rest of

1725
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 4: the prize money to the other drivers. They just divided

1726
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,799
Speaker 4: among the rest of the field. Safe to say, Legano

1727
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,440
Speaker 4: did not win anything close to a million bucks.

1728
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 2: To good stuff, Sager. I was not aware of that.

1729
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 2: I totally missed that in the race tonight. Hey, by

1730
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: the way, this race is too strong out. One guy's

1731
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: dominating too much. Guess what, throw the caution out. Let's

1732
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 2: make it fun. Oh my goodness, what a wild decision

1733
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 2: to make. All right, got a ton of NFL stuff

1734
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 2: to throw in front of Torres. Next on Fox Sports Radio.

1735
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1736
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 2: We're rolling Arnie's out Aaron's and we're having fun conversations.

1737
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 2: What an awesome moment for my beloved sport is softball.

1738
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: Oregon beat Stanford on a walk off, three run home

1739
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 2: run and the Oregon Ducks will be the final team

1740
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: to punch their ticket to the Super Regionals.

1741
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 3: Pretty cool, I know.

1742
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 2: I listen, this is only knowing most of you couldn't

1743
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 2: care less about college softball. I don't need I don't

1744
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: need Darryl's smart me tweet. You're all too cool for

1745
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 2: women's sports unless it's Caitlan Clark. But it was a

1746
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 2: cool moment, man. So now we're set for the super Regionals.

1747
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: Congratch the Oregon Ducks, and I'll continue to do my

1748
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 2: best to uh to politic for more coverage of this sport,

1749
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 2: but we'll see how it goes.

1750
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 3: I agree with really quick. No, I agree, And first

1751
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 3: of all, anybody who's complaining, listen, it's a two screen world.

1752
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 3: We all have short attention spans. You had live sports

1753
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 3: on at one am Eastern time on that That's right,

1754
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: that's right. That's one of the things that really kind

1755
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 3: of got me into the college baseball stuff. Was there.

1756
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 3: You know I always usually do like a Vegas trip

1757
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 3: kind of late May early June, and you just be

1758
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 3: sitting in the sports book at you know, nine o'clock

1759
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 3: at night, just kind of chilling with a with a

1760
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 3: cold one, and it'd be like Oregon State, Uh, you know,

1761
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 3: Coastal Carolina. You're like, I can always I get bet

1762
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 3: on this. It's ten o'clock Pacific. It's the only because

1763
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 3: you know, by by June all the NBA is done.

1764
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 3: You know, you might get a finals game, but that

1765
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: that that puppy on the West coast is going to

1766
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 3: end by you know, eight o'clock. And it's like, oh,

1767
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 3: it's ten thirty and I can just bet on this

1768
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 3: Oregon State baseball game. Sign me up. So they stormed

1769
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 3: the field.

1770
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: I think there are some other athletes that were there,

1771
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: maybe some football players, and they kind of stormed the

1772
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: field and celebrated with the Ducks.

1773
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 3: And Chris Blank, I got to ask you a question,

1774
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 3: go ahead. I mean, they're storming the field for a

1775
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 3: regional game that only advances them to the super regionals?

1776
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 3: Are are regionals a big deal? There? Are Oregon basketball?

1777
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 3: Are Oregon softball fans overreacting? Have they set the bar

1778
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 3: too low? Chris Plank?

1779
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you only celebrate whenever you want a title.

1780
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 2: They're acting like they haven't been there before, act like

1781
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: you've been there. But they're running around just having a

1782
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: blast right now for people fun.

1783
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 3: See. Plank and I had this debate about Aaron York Knicks.

1784
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 2: Aaron is allowing the Knicks to celebrate the Eastern Conference

1785
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 2: Finals birth like they won the title, and I think

1786
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 2: they got a little carried away.

1787
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 3: But defense it was the fans not the players. As

1788
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 3: I said, there was no Jalen Brunson jumping on a

1789
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 3: scores table, so which would have been hilarious. It would have,

1790
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 3: but he didn't do it. That would have been a

1791
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 3: little bit, a little bit extra.

1792
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: Hows the kids say you only you only dog pile

1793
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 2: when you win a championship. You only storm the field

1794
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 2: when you win a title. But listen, I guess we

1795
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 2: gotta I guess we got to bend the knee every

1796
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 2: now and then to a different take here there.

1797
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 5: Well, I love that iconic clip of Patrick Beverly with

1798
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 5: tears in his eyes.

1799
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. And they won the first round of

1800
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 3: the playoffs. So hilarious.

1801
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 2: Man, I just drop an F bomb after f bomb,

1802
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 2: just just absolutely hilarious. So congrats to the Oregon Ducks

1803
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: and so on a night when we get our super

1804
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: Regional set. In softball, we also have the NBA's Eastern

1805
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 2: and Western Conference Finals. Are you are you leaning either

1806
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: way yet on the East side, because I kind of

1807
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 2: think the Eastern con. I think both series have a

1808
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: chance to go seven. I think the thunder are gonna win.

1809
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 2: Kind of leaning towards the Nick right now, to be

1810
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: honest with you.

1811
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, with the East you know, I know that

1812
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 3: Indiana has been overlooked these entire playoffs. Tyrees Halibert and

1813
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 3: always the most overrated player in the league. Oh maybe

1814
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 3: he's not actually whatever pole that was. But with the Knicks,

1815
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 3: like I know, it's cliche, but I just think there's

1816
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 3: something about this specific group and Jalen Brunson. I'll say

1817
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,480
Speaker 3: this man, even as a guy who loves college basketball

1818
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 3: watched him win two championships at Villanova, Like I, I

1819
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 3: did not know that he had this gear to his

1820
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 3: game where it's like every single time they need a

1821
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: big play in the clutch, he comes through. I will say,

1822
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 3: you know, the Boston series was a little bit weird

1823
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 3: because obviously Game one, Game two before the Tatum injury

1824
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 3: was mostly just about three point shooting and lack thereof.

1825
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 3: And I do think Indiana poses some interesting defensive uh problems,

1826
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 3: But no, I I like, I actually do like the

1827
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 3: Knicks to win. I think it's an incredible story. I

1828
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 3: think they're an incredible team with incredible chemistry. I do

1829
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 3: think they end up winning. I think they're I think

1830
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 3: they're in good shape too.

1831
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have I hope we're gonna have

1832
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: a fun final four because as it stands are I

1833
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: guess you would say these people get mad if you

1834
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 2: use the college phrase.

1835
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 3: In the NBA.

1836
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: Sorry, but if you have good Eastern Conference in Western

1837
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: Conference finals, because so far, like our Game sevens have

1838
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: kind of stunk the series. I thought the Thunder Nugget series.

1839
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 2: I know Arnie would be mad because there was only

1840
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: one buzzer beater. He would tell you that it stinks,

1841
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 2: But you take away games two and seven, and that

1842
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 2: was an awesome series. Game two the Thunder one by

1843
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 2: forty five. Tonight they went by like thirty seven. But

1844
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,839
Speaker 2: to me, I thought that was a fun series.

1845
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1846
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 2: The Knicks Celtics series, to me was really hard to

1847
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: figure out because the Knicks lost two games by twenty

1848
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 2: and in two of their wins they had to come

1849
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 2: back from twenty and then they won a game by

1850
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty points and in game six

1851
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 2: the other night. So I don't know if was that

1852
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 2: a good series or no.

1853
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's funny because sometimes you see the opposite, right

1854
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 3: as you have like a buzzer beater in an NCAA

1855
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 3: tournament game, and it's like, oh, it's an all time classic,

1856
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 3: and it's like, actually it was terrible. It just had

1857
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 3: an incredible ending, And I thought Oklahoma City Denver was

1858
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 3: kind of the opposite, was that it was an incredible

1859
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 3: series that just I think Denver just flat out ran

1860
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 3: out of gas. By the end of that series and

1861
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 3: maybe more specifically Nikolea Yokic ran out of gas. But no,

1862
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 3: I thought that was one of the more entertaining series

1863
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 3: that I've watched in a long time. And I think,

1864
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 3: because it's hard to say, it's like Oka C's coming

1865
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 3: out party. They of course, you know, were in the

1866
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 3: second round last year against Dallas, but I think that

1867
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 3: was an important series for them as a franchise. You know,

1868
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 3: it was funny knowing I was working with you today.

1869
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how much of the airwaves

1870
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 3: they take up with you and Norman Monday through Friday,

1871
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 3: but I was kind of curious of like, if they

1872
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 3: did lose, is it something where you have to consider

1873
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 3: trading one of these core piece is getting some veteran guys.

1874
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: That's not a question that we have to answer tonight, obviously,

1875
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 3: and maybe we won't have to answer it period. But

1876
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 3: I just thought it was a cool series. I thought

1877
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 3: it was a fun series, you know Jokic. I know,

1878
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 3: the Denver stuff was weird, just with fiery Mike Malone

1879
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 3: a week before the playoffs, but I thought Jokic established

1880
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 3: himself as the best player in the world and even

1881
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 3: in some of the law. You know, early in the

1882
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 3: series he struggled a little bit, but as the series

1883
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 3: went on, even in some of those losses, he was

1884
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 3: just incredible. So now I've enjoyed these NBA playoffs so far,

1885
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 3: and I'm with you, is I don't think that any

1886
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 3: of the four teams advancing would surprise me. I am

1887
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 3: sort of leaning Nicks and I'm probably I'm probably leaning

1888
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 3: Minnesota in the West. I'm not I don't feel great

1889
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 3: about it. I don't feel great about it. Man, I'm

1890
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 3: gonna tell you right now, I don't feel great about it.

1891
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 3: Everyone talks about depth this time of year, and I'm like,

1892
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 3: h you know, everyone's kind of tired of this time

1893
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 3: of year.

1894
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 2: Is how much does depth truly matter? And then when

1895
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 2: when push came to shove for the thunder until they

1896
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 2: got up by about twenty they were sticking to an

1897
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 2: eight man rotation. So I worry about I worry about Gobert,

1898
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: I worry about having someone to shut down Randall. There,

1899
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think this has a potential to

1900
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: be electric. And it all boils down to whether or

1901
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 2: not Anthony Edwards decides he wants to take over games

1902
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 2: because yes, I think he can. What is did you

1903
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: think he was going to be this good when you

1904
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 2: saw him at Georgia?

1905
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 3: No? Not at all. Medium, No, not at all. I'll

1906
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 3: say this though, that last point that you brought up,

1907
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 3: it's a point that me and j Mart have hammered

1908
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 3: home on our Saturday show where you look at the

1909
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 3: stat line at the end of these games and you're like, oh,

1910
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards was awesome. But you know, first of all,

1911
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 3: the closeout game. You know, I was texting with j

1912
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 3: Mart after it against the Lakers because you know there

1913
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 3: was some you know, first take topic or whatever, Oh

1914
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 3: is it Anthony Edwards League, and it's like, well, he

1915
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 3: was the fourth most important player on the court the

1916
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 3: night they beat the Lakers to clinch the series. But

1917
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 3: you know, me and J Mart were on for one

1918
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 3: of the Lakers games. But then, certainly I think it

1919
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 3: was Game four of the Timberwolves Timberwolves Warrior series where

1920
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:23,520
Speaker 3: you know, Steph was out and it was like Minnesota

1921
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 3: just never really hit that throttle, and it's like you

1922
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 3: got you got Golden State on the ropes without a

1923
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer and and Anthony Edwards again, it's

1924
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 3: weird because you look at the final stat lines and

1925
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 3: you say, oh, he played these great games, but it's

1926
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 3: like it just feels like he coasts and it feels

1927
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 3: like he's happy to settle for threes. And you know,

1928
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to do the whole like cliche, like

1929
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 3: it's the Jordan killer instinct, but it's like there are

1930
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 3: times that it's like a little too casual out.

1931
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 2: There, Yes, and you worry about it, And you know what,

1932
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 2: I would say the same thing about Shae. I would

1933
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 2: say the same thing about Shay Gil just Alexander. But

1934
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: you know, the fight that I have to fight a

1935
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: lot with Sga is the foubating conversation. We were fighting

1936
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 2: about it on Friday night. I feel like it's all

1937
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 2: the NBA. I get it that Shay is a little

1938
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 2: bit more prone to get away with it and get

1939
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 2: a few more calls. But do I have a defense

1940
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: to that or do I just have to wear it

1941
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 2: that it's going to be a criticism that he's got

1942
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 2: a little of that James Harden and him where.

1943
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 3: He's a bit of a foulbator and he has a

1944
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 3: lot of success from the line.

1945
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 2: Because I feel like it's a fight regardless of how

1946
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: hard I fight it, regardless of all the facts that

1947
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: all throw out there about well, well actually here's the

1948
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 2: free throws and here's the number. Oh about he's avoubator.

1949
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,799
Speaker 2: I can't win that fight, it seems with people. Well,

1950
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 2: you can't win any fight on social media with true.

1951
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 3: So that's a great point. Yeah, So I wouldn't worry

1952
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 3: too much about that. Listen. I think it's a pseudo

1953
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 3: fair criticism, but I would say that that's something that's

1954
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 3: pervasive in all of basketball right now, is you know

1955
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 3: I you know, obviously as somebody who even watches obviously

1956
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 3: less NBA than than college. I mean, even during that

1957
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 3: Final four National championship run with Florida, you know, Walter

1958
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 3: Clayton's kicking his foot out to try to pick up

1959
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 3: the file. I remember there was I remember there's a

1960
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 3: huge play in the Texas Tech Elite eight game, and

1961
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 3: you know there may have been. It was a survivor

1962
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 3: pool that I was heavily invested in. But I'm screaming,

1963
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 3: and my wife and sister in law were in the

1964
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,719
Speaker 3: room like what what what? What what? And I'm like, look,

1965
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 3: he tried to draw the file and they didn't see it,

1966
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,560
Speaker 3: and I replayed it and you could see it on replay.

1967
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 3: But I only bring it up because that was the

1968
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 3: final four most outstanding player in the NBA. You know,

1969
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 3: whether it's it's fall baiting, you know, with the pump

1970
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 3: fakes or with the ripthroughs, or with the kicking the

1971
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 3: foot out. So I understand those that are frustrated with Shay.

1972
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,679
Speaker 3: I would counter by saying, it's basically the whole league,

1973
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 3: if we're being perfectly honest.

1974
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could not agree more. All Right, it's Aaron Torres,

1975
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 2: I'm Chris Plank. Arnie's out tonight. He'll be back next Sunday,

1976
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 2: getting ready for a big to the Dominican Republic instead

1977
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 2: of being on vacation. Tonight's rest before the vacation. So

1978
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 2: that saved you from a lot of the New York

1979
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 2: Knicks talk. But what we haven't got into yet is

1980
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 2: the NFL, the schedule release, the potential rule change, and

1981
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 2: brock Perty's contract. We can do that all next, but

1982
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: I want to hit one thing on the schedule release

1983
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 2: that stood out to me. And you're gonna get the

1984
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 2: cowboys crammed down your throat a lot when it comes

1985
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 2: to the talking points when it comes to debate, ready,

1986
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 2: when it comes to our shows, I feel like a

1987
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 2: lot of people will kind of fall back on Dallas

1988
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Cowboys talk because it gets reaction.

1989
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:37,640
Speaker 3: They're all over the schedule.

1990
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, they've got the Fox a team on

1991
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:40,759
Speaker 2: most of their games.

1992
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:41,919
Speaker 3: But I found this interesting.

1993
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 2: This was a quote from Michael Molville of Fox said,

1994
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 2: our four to twenty five games, and that's for the

1995
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 2: East Coasters. What Aaron, You're in the Pacific time zone.

1996
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: So what is that three two one, that evening game?

1997
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 2: Right that I'm sorry, early afternoon game.

1998
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 3: Correct.

1999
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 2: Our four to twenty five games, only three of them

2000
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: were Cowboys games. In other years we've gone looking for

2001
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 2: five or six Dallas games at four to twenty five.

2002
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 2: What we wanted for this year was more AFC, more Philly,

2003
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 2: but also more Detroit and a little more Washington to

2004
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 2: try to capitalize on the Jane Daniels story. I think

2005
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 2: we have a better mix of teams than we've had

2006
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 2: in the past. Sometimes we've had we've heard exasperation from

2007
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 2: fans that the Fox for twenty five game is always

2008
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. It's still gonna be the Cowboys sometimes this year,

2009
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 2: but you'll see a little bit more variety in terms

2010
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 2: of the top teams in our four to twenty five window.

2011
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: I don't know why, because they still got the maximum

2012
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 2: amount of primetime games. They still said that what the

2013
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 2: top team of Brady and Kevin Burkhart is going to

2014
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 2: do most of their games.

2015
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 3: That kind of caught me interesting.

2016
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean, is is Jerry's fumbling of the bag starting

2017
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 2: to hurt the Cowboys a little bit when it comes

2018
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 2: to even the national media enamored nature with the Star.

2019
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like this was one of those

2020
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 2: signs that it's kind of fading a bit and Fox

2021
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 2: doesn't believe they're gonna be a championship caliber team.

2022
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I find that very interesting. And you know it's funny.

2023
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 3: My nephew is a huge Cowboys fan. He's younger than me.

2024
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 3: He doesn't even remember the the Troy Aikman, Mike Lrvin,

2025
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 3: you know, Emmett years and I remember sitting with him

2026
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 3: last year I was visiting Connecticut whatever. I only bring

2027
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 3: it up because I said to him, I was like, oh,

2028
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 3: you know, oh Cowboys, what do you think? And they

2029
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 3: were bad? And he just said to me, he's like Aaron,

2030
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 3: He's like until Jerry's gone. It just it doesn't matter,

2031
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 3: like we're just we're stuck in this rut of Dak

2032
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 3: and Jerry Dak and Jerry Dak and Jerry. And it

2033
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 3: really struck me. And I think everyone is kind of

2034
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 3: figuring out, yes, the brand is huge, and yes, if

2035
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 3: you and I were to talk Cowboys versus Jaguars or

2036
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 3: Cowboys versus Titans, it's obviously gonna do a bigger number.

2037
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 3: But I I think we're at the point where it's

2038
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 3: hard to like, it's hard to talk them like you

2039
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 3: talk about them because they're the Cowboys, not because anybody

2040
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 3: actually thinks that they can make any noise. And I

2041
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 3: think for most of the last decade or so, really,

2042
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 3: since Dak's been there or whatever, you could at least

2043
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 3: at this time of the year kind of talk yourself

2044
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 3: into Okay, well if this happens and the division stinks

2045
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 3: and Washington and the Giants think whatever. I don't think

2046
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 3: you can do that this year. And I had not

2047
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 3: heard those Michael Molverhill comments, but I find them very

2048
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 3: interesting because that kind of just reflects how I kind

2049
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 3: of feel like the public is starting to get about

2050
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and it kind of confirms it. Do you know.

2051
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 2: I was going through this list. You mentioned it because

2052
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 2: you said about ten years of Dak Prescott. In my mind,

2053
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 2: I was like, it hasn't been that long, has it.

2054
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 2: You realize his first year as a starting quarterback was

2055
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, so you're right on. This is gonna be

2056
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 2: his tenth full season as a Dallas Boys starting quarterback

2057
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 2: and he's only his rookie season. Let's see here, he's

2058
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 2: only played a full season once in the last five seasons,

2059
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 2: like he's been injured. I mean, that's crazy, and it

2060
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty three, and I don't know, man,

2061
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 2: Tony Romo had a good run. I kind of feel

2062
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,640
Speaker 2: like the biggest mistake they've made is they've they've not

2063
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 2: done a good job in evaluating the quarterback position. I mean,

2064
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 2: some of these names are wild. When you look at

2065
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys starters post Troy, I mean, now that's

2066
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 2: going back almost, you know, twenty five years now, so

2067
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 2: we don't have to go that deep to talk about

2068
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 2: their misery.

2069
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 3: But I don't like this. I saw that this week.

2070
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 2: I didn't notice it when the schedule came out, right

2071
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 2: because I didn't really pay too much attention to start

2072
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 2: times or anything of that nature. I was too busy

2073
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 2: deciding what was funny and who tried too hard in

2074
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 2: their schedule release videos. But maybe we're finally kind of

2075
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 2: getting the clue that we're getting a little bit of

2076
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 2: Cowboys fatigue because you can only cram a back team

2077
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 2: down people's throat so long, right, yeah.

2078
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. You know, let me jump in on that,

2079
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 3: uh on that quarterback point. And I know we're gonna

2080
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 3: talk about Brock Party sometime in the next few Yeah,

2081
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 3: But like, I do think it's interesting that there have

2082
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 3: now been two times where the Cowboys could have looked

2083
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 3: themselves in the mirror and realistically had the tough conversation

2084
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 3: with Dak Prescott that the forty nine ers had with

2085
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 3: brock Party at some point in the last couple of months,

2086
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 3: which is, you're really good, we know how valuable you

2087
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 3: are to this organization, but that doesn't mean that you

2088
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 3: should be the highest paid player in the league. And

2089
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 3: you being the highest paid player in the league is

2090
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 3: going to handicap us from putting a really good team

2091
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 3: around you. You know, it's funny you joke about aren't

2092
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 3: he never taking vacations. I remember when I used to

2093
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 3: host with them on Saturday. This was in the lead

2094
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 3: up to Dak's first big contract. I remember I was,

2095
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 3: he was out and I was hosting solo, and it

2096
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 3: was during the first big contract for Dak, and I said,

2097
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 3: you can't pay him top dollar because he needs help

2098
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 3: around him. And so they not only do that, but

2099
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 3: they then, of course last offseason, make him the highest

2100
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 3: paid player in the league. And I think when you

2101
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 3: want to start to talk about the Cowboys problems, you

2102
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 3: have a quarterback that's probably somewhere between I don't know,

2103
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 3: the eighth and fifteenth best quarterback paid as the best quarterback,

2104
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 3: you can't put a team around him, and I think

2105
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 3: that's where it all starts. But I think the broader

2106
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 3: picture is exactly what you just said is. I think

2107
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 3: people are starting to realize it's the Cowboys. But to

2108
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:43,680
Speaker 3: the exact point in the exact quote you made, you

2109
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 3: can't put a bad team on air week after week

2110
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 3: after week and expect people to keep showing up just

2111
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 3: because it's the Cowboys.

2112
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 2: I always this has been I would be terrible as

2113
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 2: a general manager, or maybe not even I kind of

2114
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 2: think i'd be okay, as a general manager, as capologist,

2115
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 2: I'd be terrible. Because Dak Prescott his cap number this

2116
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 2: year for the Cowboys of this is, according to over

2117
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 2: the Cap, fifty point five million dollars fifty point five

2118
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:19,959
Speaker 2: And when you look at quarterbacks in general, that's obviously

2119
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 2: up or end, but it's still it's kind of the

2120
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 2: going rate. But you have I feel like quarterbacks anymore

2121
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 2: if they're smart. I mean, listen, I don't know about you, dude.

2122
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't think I could even imagine spending fifty million

2123
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 2: dollars in my lifetime. It's like generational wealth. I think

2124
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 2: everything could.

2125
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 3: Be taken care of. I know, get what you're worth.

2126
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 2: But it's almost as if quarterbacks you gotta chill out, qbs,

2127
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 2: because the percentage of the cap that you're at right

2128
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 2: now is really hamstringing your team, especially when you're at

2129
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 2: the level of Dak Prescott, is right, I mean this,

2130
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 2: You're not a superstar. You're not gonna be able to

2131
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 2: carry a team. You're not Patrick Mahomes, and even Patrick

2132
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 2: Mahomes is taking a team friendly deal right now. And

2133
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't want mess with anyone's money erin, but it's

2134
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 2: almost if you're a quarterback. You got to accept who

2135
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 2: you are and what you can and can't do. Yeah,

2136
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Speaker 2: I think we're finally starting to get to the point

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Speaker 2: where that there's a little bit of self awareness to that.

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Speaker 2: And I only bring it up we'll talk rock party.

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Speaker 3: But also last offseason to a got you know, generational

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01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 3: wealth money, but it wasn't like top five in the

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01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 3: league money, and so you know there are still crazy

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Speaker 3: numbers being handed out. Joe Burrow got a huge extension,

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01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 3: justin Herbert, Trevor Lawrence whatever. I do think there is

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Speaker 3: some level of self awareness, but it clearly hasn't happened

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01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 3: with the Cowboys. And by the way, to your point one,

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01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 3: you never questioned anybody's money. If somebody wants to pay you,

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01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 3: that that's one thing. The other thing is part of

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Speaker 3: this is Jerry Jones's ego is listen, you know, I'm

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01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 3: only reading what everybody else is reporting. But I think

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Speaker 3: he gets a little bit of a high off of

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Speaker 3: making Dak the highest paid player in the history of

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01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,919
Speaker 3: the league, whether it's the best thing for his organization

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01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 3: or not. So one, you'd love your quarterback to have

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01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 3: some self awareness and say, hey, yeah, I could make

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01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 3: whatever the highest number is and be the highest paid

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Speaker 3: player in the history of league. Well, guess what, that'll

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Speaker 3: go away the next time somebody else signs a big contract.

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01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 3: Or I can take like you said, I could take

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01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 3: the hometown discount of only fifty million dollars, still have

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01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 3: my family set up for the rest of my life,

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01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 3: and put my team in a much better position. So

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Speaker 3: I think some of it's on Jerry, but I'm with

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01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:31,559
Speaker 3: you as I think guys have to have a self

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01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 3: awareness and a cap league of the hindrance that having

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Speaker 3: a contract that big can have on roster building going forward.

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Speaker 3: We got break. That's Aaron Torres. I'm Chris Plank.

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01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,839
Speaker 2: A reminder you can catch the show in podcast form

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Speaker 2: as soon as we wrap up here on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 2: If you missed any of it, check it out. Search

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast, and be

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01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 2: sure to follow and rate and review the podcast. Leave

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01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 2: a five star rating, say something nice about Arnie or

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01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 2: in this case, Aaron and I. Tonight it's Fox Sports

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01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcast, and you'll see tonight's

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01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 2: show right after we get off the air. We're talking

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01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 2: Brock Party next on Fox Sports Radio with already out

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Speaker 2: at Aaron Torres is in Fox Sports Sunday, Ben Mallard

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01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 2: coming up here in about thirty minutes from now.

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Speaker 3: Final Steve the SEGA update in moments.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a problem with it, especially whenever I

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Speaker 2: saw the numbers. Do you have an issue with the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers paying brock Purty. I mean, they don't

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01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 2: really have a lot of other options right now, But

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Speaker 2: any issues with it.

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Speaker 3: No, Because again I think context matters. I think you know, again,

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01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 3: you see two hundred and sixty five million and you

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01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 3: assume it's this insane contract, and then you actually break

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01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 3: it all down. The fifty three million dollar a year

2189
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 3: average ties for seventh at the position in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: The one hundred and eighty one million in guarantees is

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01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 3: ranked eighth, and so so yeah, I mean if he

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01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 3: signed the Dak Prescott extension when he you know, is

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01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 3: guy much like Dak Prescott that needs a lot of

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01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,639
Speaker 3: help around him, that I would have said the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers overpaid. But when you're talking about a guy

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Speaker 3: that took a lot of money, clearly life changing money,

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Speaker 3: but also had the wherewithal to not try to hold

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Speaker 3: out for top dollar. I think it it's hard to

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Speaker 3: say something's team friendly we're talking about fifty three million

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01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 3: a year, but I think it makes sense for both sides,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: And it was wild because Mike Florio over at Pro

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01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 2: Football Talk had an article that basically laid out, it's

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01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 2: not even really fifty million dollars a year, you know,

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01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 2: it's kind of and again, I know we're I don't

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01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 2: like doing this, but I think it's what more like

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01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 2: forty six forty seven because it's a completely new deal

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01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,919
Speaker 2: that he has signed, so it tears up the previous

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Speaker 2: contract and gives him a whole new deal. So it's

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Speaker 2: even a little bit more And I hate to even

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01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 2: use the term team friendly, but it's not a Dak

2212
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 2: Prescott deal, right, the kind of deal that's going to

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01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 2: weigh down the entire team. The no trade clause that

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01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 2: broke tonight was fascinating of it, of everything that kind

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01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,759
Speaker 2: of came out of this, right, And it was fascinating

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01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 2: because everyone was freaked out about it, and Aaron I am.

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Speaker 2: I thought everyone that got a big deal like that

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Speaker 2: had a no trade clause in it. So that's showing

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Speaker 2: my stupidity.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit.

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01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 2: But It's becoming more and more common with high end

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Speaker 2: quarterback deals, and it I don't think it's really that

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01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 2: shocking as it typically was whenever you have a guy

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Speaker 2: get a deal like this and have a no trade clause. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you said it to me right before the show, and

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Speaker 2: I think I had.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I had the exact same response as you,

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01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 3: of like this is this a big deal? Does this matter?

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Speaker 3: And the counter to it as well is who is

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Speaker 3: the last quarterback that's been really good on a really

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01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 3: good team that hasn't demanded a trade that got traded. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: these aren't like NBA guys that just get traded every

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01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,120
Speaker 3: every offseason. There's two or three superstars that ends up

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01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 3: getting traded, Like maybe there's a super obvious name, and

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01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 3: there are guys like Deshaun Watson who demanded a trade.

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01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 3: But I don't remember Aaron Rodgers getting traded in his prime.

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01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 3: I don't remember Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Patrick Mahomes I

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01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 3: believe is still with the team that drafted him. Same

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01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 3: with Josh Allen, same with Lamar Jackson. So I saw

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Speaker 3: people kind of making a big deal about this, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, do really good quarterbacks on really good teams

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01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 3: that are meeting expectations get traded regularly, and I just

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01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 3: missed that, Like, is that a thing that happens that

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01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 3: I'm not aware of? I was laughing.

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01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 2: I was listening to the Fellas at a Sunday night

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Speaker 2: show tonight, a little extra Fellas this weekend, and I

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01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 2: think it was either Jason or Ant that said, well,

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01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 2: and of course if they want to trade him after

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Speaker 2: a year or two, And I'm like, why would you

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Speaker 2: give him a four year deal if you want to

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Speaker 2: trade him after two years? You know, it just doesn't happen.

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01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 2: It's it's not reality. But you're also right, it's not

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01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 2: the NBA where dudes are constantly saying, trade me right now,

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01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 2: where I want to go somewhere else, just a couple

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Speaker 2: of years into a deal. Here's the numbers I was

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01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 2: looking for. It's not a five year extension that kicks

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Speaker 2: income twenty twenty six. His remaining contract gets torn up.

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Speaker 2: This is according to Pro Football Talk, and replaced with

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Speaker 2: the six year, two hundred and seventy nine point three

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Speaker 2: four to six million dollar contract, which makes it a

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Speaker 2: per year average from signing a forty five point zero

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01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,639
Speaker 2: five to seven mil. So I mean even that number, right,

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Speaker 2: you're like, okay, all right, which sounds crazy to say, oh,

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01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 2: I'm going to the forty five million dollar deal, but

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Speaker 2: that's the world we live in.

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Speaker 3: With quarterback contracts, right, that's where we live. Yeah, one

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01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 3: hundred percent and yeah, and I think bigger picture. The

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Speaker 3: other thing too, is, I know you were talking about

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01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 3: the fellas and you know, the whatever, but the contract

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01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 3: kind of lines up. It feels like it's it's heavy

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01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 3: the first couple of years, and it kind of lines

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01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 3: up with what this window will be where you know,

2273
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 3: as McCaffrey ages out, as Trent Williams age is out,

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01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 3: you can kind of figure out if brock Party is

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01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 3: your future. And listen, I just think everything about it

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01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 3: makes sense, from the amount of money to the time

2277
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 3: frame to everything in between. And now we'll see you know.

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01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 3: And by the way, like I get the whole notion

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01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:13,600
Speaker 3: of brock Party did not look the same when a

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01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 3: lot of guys were injured last year. Doesn't every quarterback

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01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 3: need help by like quarterback does?

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01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:24,759
Speaker 3: Like I remember Patrick Mahomes without a star wide receiver

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01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 3: and no oh line in the Super Bowl, And I

2285
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 3: don't think it went well. Jalen Hurts is really good.

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01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 3: He was a lot better with Sakwan Barkley. So yes, yes,

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01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 3: Brock party needs help. I get it. I get that.

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01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 3: You know, if you were lining up guys for a

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01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 3: backyard football game, he wouldn't be the first or second pick,

2290
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 3: if you could take Josh Allen or Mahomes or Lamar

2291
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 3: or whoever. But I think a lot of the narratives

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01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 3: about him are nonsense. And again, I just think a

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01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 3: lot of this makes sense as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 2: That's Aaron torys I'm Chris Plank. Arnie's out, But the

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01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 2: saga is in. So let's get our final update of

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01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 2: the night with the Man, the Myth, the left and

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01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 2: Steve you saga, what's going on?

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01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:01,759
Speaker 3: Steve?

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Speaker 4: Hello again, gentlemen. And we had it first tonight because

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01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 4: with Toronto olt, Winnipeg had already been out, et cetera. Apparently,

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01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 4: according to stats inc these Stanley Cup playoffs this year,

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01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 4: it marks the first time that the teams with the

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01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 4: four best records in the league were all eliminated in

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01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 4: the same round, and in fact, it's the first time

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01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 4: in the history of the four major sports that your

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01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 4: four best records in your league were all eliminated in

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01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 4: the same round. Toronto had a Game seven at home.

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01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 4: You can probably guess how that went, six to one.

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01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,799
Speaker 4: Florida is the final to end the second round, Panthers

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01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 4: scored three straight goals in the second period in about

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01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:39,840
Speaker 4: six minutes for a three to zo lead. The Leafs

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01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 4: have now lost seven straight game sevens. Florida goes to

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01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 4: the East Final against Carolina starting Tuesday in Raleigh. And

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01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 4: by the way, this is the sixth straight season that

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01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 4: a hockey team from Florida has made it to the

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01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,640
Speaker 4: final four Panthers three years in a row and before that,

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01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 4: the Lightning three years in a row. In the NBA Playoffs,

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01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 4: ending the second round a Game seven win at home

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01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 4: for Oklahoma City, eliminating Denver, won twenty five to ninety three.

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01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 4: Shake Gilgis Alexander thirty five points. Jalen Williams had twenty

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01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:12,759
Speaker 4: four and he had seven assists just one turnover. Okse

2322
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,680
Speaker 4: trailed by eleven early but led by twenty three just

2323
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,679
Speaker 4: after halftime when it was seventy one to forty eight.

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01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon did play with the strain hamstring, had eleven

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01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 4: rebounds in defeat Nikola Jokic twenty points. Nuggets from three

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01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,799
Speaker 4: point range ten for forty five today, and they committed

2327
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 4: twenty two turnovers. Oklahoma City hosts Minnesota to start the

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01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 4: Western Conference Finals on Tuesday. Two WNBA games. Washington won

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01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:41,719
Speaker 4: at Connecticut USC's Keiki Erie Fen rookie into the pros

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01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 4: Now seventeen points, fourteen rebounds. Minnesota won at La although

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01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 4: Now with la Kelsey Plumb scored eighteen points. Scotty Scheffler

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01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 4: won the PGA Championship by five strokes. Bryce and De

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01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:55,680
Speaker 4: Shambo tied for second place in Charlotte. John Rahm was

2334
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 4: tied for the lead during the final round but fell

2335
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 4: to a tie for eighth. On his final three holes today,

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01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 4: he had a bogie and then two double bogies. Scheffler

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01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 4: is ranked number one in the world for two straight

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01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 4: years now. This is his first PGA Championship, his third

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01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 4: major title. Heast won the Masters twice. This is his

2340
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 4: sixth year on tour. It's his fifteenth tournament victory already.

2341
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 4: Rory McElroy tied for forty seventh, his lowest seventy two

2342
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:23,480
Speaker 4: hole finish in four years in majors and McElroy declined

2343
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 4: all four days to speak to the media.

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Speaker 3: Is that is that a bigger story than we're making

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01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 3: it out to be, Steve.

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01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 4: It should be a bigger story. I know, he said before,

2347
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 4: I don't know anything to you. Colin Morikawa quite famously

2348
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 4: said I don't know you anything. Others on tour have said,

2349
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 4: you know, I wish we had more availabilities for the media,

2350
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,600
Speaker 4: because that's how we relate to the fans. We're a

2351
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:48,839
Speaker 4: professional product here. Scheffler earns over three point four million dollars,

2352
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 4: by the way, for this victory today. A tie for

2353
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 4: second was worth about one point four million each. Meanwhile,

2354
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 4: the NASCAR win for Christopher Bell gets him a million

2355
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 4: dollar first prize at the All Star Joey Logano finished second.

2356
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 4: FS one's final Cup Series event of the season was tonight.

2357
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 4: Fox TV will have the Indy five hundred next Sunday

2358
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 4: at Upset. In college softball, tonight, Liberty eliminated number one

2359
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 4: Texas A and M in a regional. Also, Oregon walked

2360
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 4: off to advance to face Liberty next weekend. Carlos Alcarez

2361
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 4: took the Italian Open final. The French Open starts next Sunday.

2362
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 4: The Sunday Night ballgame went to the Yankees eight two

2363
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 4: over the Mets with six runs bottom of the eighth

2364
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 4: Cody Bellinger a grand slam. The angel swept a three

2365
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 4: game series at Dodger Stadium, winning six to four today.

2366
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 4: The Dodgers did activate Tommy Edmond and to make room

2367
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 4: cut veteran Chris Taylor. As for the starting pitching, it

2368
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:42,600
Speaker 4: just hasn't been there for la Tony Gonsolin not a

2369
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 4: decision today, but in four innings he allowed four runs

2370
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 4: with five walks. Seattle swept a three game series at

2371
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 4: San Diego, winning six to one today. The Padres scored

2372
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 4: just one run in each of the three games this weekend.

2373
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,639
Speaker 4: San Francisco with two runs bottom of the eighth beat

2374
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 4: the A's three to two. The Athletics have lost five

2375
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 4: in a row. The starter for the Giants was Justin Verlander,

2376
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 4: four innings, five walks. Arizona won nothing over Colorado, eleven

2377
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 4: strikeouts for Merril Kelly, who got the win. Seven innings

2378
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 4: of work. The Rockies on the road three and twenty

2379
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 4: two so far this year. The Twins had won thirteenth straight,

2380
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 4: but lost at Milwaukee five two today Houston was a

2381
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 4: four to three winner at Texas. The Rangers starter Jack

2382
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 4: Lder no decision yet a no hitter in the seventh,

2383
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 4: led three to nothing. Houston takes it from Raveldez the win.

2384
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 4: Josh Haters eleventh save. Philadelphia won nothing over the Pirates,

2385
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 4: beating Paul Skens, who had nine strikeouts in eight innings,

2386
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 4: but he's now three and five for Pittsburgh despite a

2387
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 4: good ERA for the Phillies, Notable Jordan Romano got the save.

2388
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 4: Reliever Jose Alvarez was suspended eighty games for a performance enhancer.

2389
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 4: Atlanta won ten to four at Boston. Brave star pitcher

2390
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 4: Spencer Strider could return Tuesday after his hamstring injury. The

2391
01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 4: Orioles yesterday fired their manager. They keep losing. The team

2392
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 4: is now fifteen and thirty. They've lost six in a row.

2393
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 4: Lost in home ten to four to Washington. In fact,

2394
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 4: today's loser, Zach Efflin, allowed four home runs and was

2395
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 4: down eight to nothing. Yesterday's loser, Kyle Gibson, was designated

2396
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:14,679
Speaker 4: for assignment. He gave up six runs in the first

2397
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 4: on Saturday to make his record zero and three with

2398
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 4: an ERA of sixteen point seven eight, and he's out

2399
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 4: of a job, yes, and Detroit's record is thirty one

2400
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 4: and sixteen after winning at Toronto today three to two.

2401
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 3: Back to you, thanks, Steve, have an awesome week.

2402
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 4: Man.

2403
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,759
Speaker 2: Uh you know, Aaron, you mentioned something we were sharing

2404
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 2: a few notes right before this show started, and you said,

2405
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 2: last night you and our buddy Jason Martin were having

2406
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 2: a conversation involving one Cooper Flag. What's been the big

2407
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 2: debate on Cooper Flag? I mean, I kind of feel

2408
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 2: like that he's ended up in a pretty good spot

2409
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 2: right in Dallas, or now, well, he ended up in

2410
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:55,400
Speaker 2: a great spot in Dallas.

2411
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the big debate is that the

2412
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 3: team that randomly traded a player entering his prime in

2413
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 3: a in a trade that no one can still explain

2414
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 3: to me three months later, how that guy, how that

2415
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 3: team ended up with the number one pick. That seems

2416
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 3: to be a big conversation.

2417
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't know if there was something with Cooper

2418
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 2: Flag that I was missing out on, because you would

2419
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 2: think that he's got to be happy that he's a

2420
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 2: Dallas maverick. Right with all the other options out there,

2421
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:27,560
Speaker 2: Washington Wizards probably don't want to go there. New Orleans Pelicans.

2422
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 2: Sure as hell don't want to go there with the

2423
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 2: way things are going. But you end up in Dallas,

2424
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 2: could sports market decent team around you got a chance

2425
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 2: to win pretty quick. I think it's pretty good. But

2426
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm here for all the conspiracy theory talk. Are you

2427
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 2: a Frozen Envelope believer?

2428
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 3: I'm a believer, and I can break it down maybe

2429
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 3: after the break, that there are like seven to eight

2430
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 3: instances of one player landing in one very specific spot

2431
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 3: being either good for the league or hypothetically a nice

2432
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 3: payback for a favor done to the league that have

2433
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 3: happened not only forget forty years since the Frozen Envelope.

2434
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 3: I could come up with five or six that feel

2435
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 3: very convenient in like the last ten to twelve years.

2436
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm a believer in Christmas, I'm here

2437
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 3: for it right back. She heard this segment last night,

2438
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 3: So conspiracy theory talk, I'm here for it.

2439
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 2: I'm such a believer in this conspiracy that it's got

2440
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 2: me down a rabbit hole where now. I honestly, I

2441
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 2: believe the Goodell burned the Spygate tapes because he thought

2442
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 2: there was too much evidence on there of intense cheating.

2443
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 2: I've bought into the Soviet Union and the officiating in

2444
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 2: that NBA. I'm sorry, in that Olympic game. I'm in

2445
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 2: on all conspiracies. Now, after this one, let's learn it

2446
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 2: up next as we put a rapid This edition of

2447
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 2: Arnie and Playing with Aaron Torre is.

2448
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 3: In right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2449
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 2: Grace Tonight from Mary mac Ian, Roddy our producers of course,

2450
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 2: Steve dis Sega on updates, Aaron Torris sitting in, and

2451
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 2: the millions and millions of editors behind the scenes chopping

2452
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 2: up the audio that I just did not play tonight.

2453
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, terrible job on my part, Aaron, terrible

2454
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 2: job on my part.

2455
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 3: But we survived. We made it without Arnie.

2456
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 2: You think you'll be okay knowing the show didn't go

2457
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 2: off the rails and truly implode without him. Is he

2458
01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 2: gonna be okay? Or do we need to do something

2459
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 2: terrible here at the end to make him feel better?

2460
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean we can let maybe, like Aaron, do a

2461
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 3: crappy pick or something.

2462
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have a crappy pick for this week?

2463
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 3: No, nothing's immediately coming to mind. First of all, I'll

2464
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 3: say this, I appreciate you not immediately dismissing the fact

2465
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 3: that I think there could be a conspiracy theory with

2466
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 3: the lottery, because it's like there's a lot of high fullutin.

2467
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 3: You know you said earlier, I'm here for it. You're

2468
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 3: a big jake tonight trying to break this sixteen team

2469
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 3: college football. Yeah, nothing happened.

2470
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 2: By the way, we can get start times for super

2471
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 2: regional games next week yet, So I think everyone's in bed.

2472
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 3: Can I tell you that insider life, it's not you know,

2473
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 3: Pete Damil sitting up waiting for a text right now.

2474
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I quitted about halfway through the show

2475
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 2: when no one replied to a text. I'm like, I

2476
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 2: ain't staying up for this. Go to bed after this program.

2477
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 2: Exactly what times your show?

2478
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 7: Uh?

2479
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 3: What times your show?

2480
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 5: Uh? In?

2481
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 3: Oh, we got plenty of time.

2482
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 2: I got till ninety But I got kids that'll wake

2483
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 2: my ass up here in about six hours.

2484
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 3: So only one of them is young.

2485
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:31,840
Speaker 2: You told me well, eleven and sixteen, So I mean

2486
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 2: I got eleven, sixteen, and I think the twenty one

2487
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 2: year old's still alive. I haven't heard from him in

2488
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 2: about two weeks. I'll just assume he is west point right.

2489
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,680
Speaker 2: That's right, that's incredible, right coming down the home stretch

2490
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 2: Finals week.

2491
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 3: Wow, this is last year.

2492
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 2: I don't know how nice of Junior. He got one

2493
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,360
Speaker 2: more year. Ok, one more season if you will. But

2494
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 2: I think I'm with you on the conspiracy theory, dude,

2495
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 2: I think I'm with you. And now, now, how far

2496
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 2: back are you going? You said you don't want to

2497
01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 2: go all the way all the way back to the

2498
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 2: Patrick Ewing, you know, like wait with the Bulls and

2499
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:04,800
Speaker 2: Derrick Rose and lebroning up in Cleveland and O three

2500
01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 2: is this is what we're talking about.

2501
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 3: Here's what I came up with, just off the top

2502
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:11,880
Speaker 3: of my head. So you have Cooper flag being, trade

2503
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 3: being or excuse me, the Dallas Mavericks winning the draft

2504
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:19,720
Speaker 3: lottery one percent, yes, less than two percent, one point

2505
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 3: eight percent. Uh, just months after they trade a star

2506
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 3: entering his prime off of an NBA Finals appearance to

2507
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 3: the big glamour franchise in the NBA. So you have that.

2508
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 3: You have twenty nineteen, the New Orleans Pelicans trade Anthony

2509
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 3: Davis to the Lakers. Another star to UH to UH

2510
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 3: to Los Angeles. Oh, by the way, they get Zion

2511
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 3: that year didn't work out, but Zion was a pretty

2512
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 3: big deal. Twenty fourteen, maybe this is a little bit

2513
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 3: of a stretch, but there were rumors Lebron James is

2514
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 3: coming back to Cleveland.

2515
01:58:57,400 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 7: Oh.

2516
01:58:57,560 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 3: They just so happened to get the number one pick.

2517
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 3: Two years before that New Orleans again, right after they

2518
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 3: traded Chris Paul in this case to the Clippers get

2519
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 3: the number one pick. And then twenty eleven, that was

2520
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 3: obviously the first lottery that the Cavs were eligible for

2521
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 3: in the post Lebron era, they happen to get the

2522
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 3: number one pick in the Kyrie sweepstakes. So again, you know,

2523
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 3: and that doesn't include Derek Rose, as you said, drafted

2524
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 3: by the hometown. Yeah, making them back a bit for that. Yeah,

2525
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 3: and Lebron obviously, you know, everybody can put two and two.

2526
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's a lot of coincidences of teams

2527
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 3: doing the League of favor, happening to get the number

2528
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:34,120
Speaker 3: one pick.

2529
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 2: Shortly thereafter one of teams are like knocking on their

2530
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 2: doors like, Hey, what do we need to do to

2531
01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 2: get this Dallas deal?

2532
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 3: What can we do?

2533
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 2: What can what can make it possible for us to

2534
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 2: end up getting me quote unquote frozen envelope. And I

2535
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:48,720
Speaker 2: did laugh when everyone said, well, if you think this

2536
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 2: is fixed, then you believe that this firm that verifies

2537
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:54,560
Speaker 2: it all. And there's like just laundry list of issues

2538
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:57,600
Speaker 2: that this firm had with the legalities.

2539
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 3: And the other ding. People are like, why would they

2540
01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:00,960
Speaker 3: do it for Dallas? And it's like, oh, because Dallas.

2541
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:03,600
Speaker 3: You have to go back to Dallas training Luca to

2542
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 3: the freaking Lakers in a trade that makes zero sense.

2543
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 2: And by the way, Dallas a pretty awesome media market.

2544
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:11,839
Speaker 2: I mean it really truly is. You got the Cowboys,

2545
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 2: got the Rangers, you got national championship games college football.

2546
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 2: It's a big time deal. Aaron always love hanging out

2547
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 2: with you, man, have a great week. I know you'll

2548
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:20,320
Speaker 2: be busy with fill ins and stuff. Make sure you

2549
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 2: follow them for all the fun getting into his main

2550
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,919
Speaker 2: season of life, college baseball.

2551
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 3: At Aaron Underscore Tours.

2552
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 2: Big Ben mahlor is coming up next for Mary, for

2553
02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:31,720
Speaker 2: Ian for Desaga. For Aaron, I'm Chris Blank. We'll see

2554
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 2: you back here next Sunday night, same bat time, same

2555
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 2: bat channel on Fox Sports Radio.