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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, there is this Lyle. Yes, ma'am. Oh holy shit,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Hello? Has what's your what's your name? I'm Sydney,

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Speaker 1: Sydney Lyle. Yeah, nice to meet you. Sydney.

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Speaker 2: We've not before, actually, but we've never talked on the phone.

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Speaker 1: I saw you sent me a photo of us meeting

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Speaker 1: at at MacEwan when I did that show in Edmonton. Yes, yep, dude,

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Speaker 1: that was a good time. I mean it was The

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Speaker 1: show was fun. The city was one of the most

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Speaker 1: depressing places I've ever been in my life.

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Speaker 2: Became of a really depressing time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Is Edmonton always like that? It's like gray and

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Speaker 1: dark and scary.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's kind of always scary, but it's not

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Speaker 2: always green dark.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Well, Sydney, what do you want to talk about today?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: I messaged you because I recently found out that my

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Speaker 2: fiance had a gambling addiction and kind of lost all

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Speaker 2: of our money.

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Speaker 1: Oh shit, yeah, so he was playing with your money too.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was looping me into financial situations that I

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Speaker 2: guess I wasn't if had I been aware of the gambling,

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Speaker 2: I would not have been footing the bills for so

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Speaker 2: more or less yeah, gambling with my money because I

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Speaker 2: was paying for things that I wouldn't have.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So yeah, you want to talk about it. What

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Speaker 1: did you get ripped into?

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Speaker 2: Well, I hadn't gotten rid of my place until we

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Speaker 2: gotten engaged. I had an apartment that I had set

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Speaker 2: up all on my own and and I went ahead,

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Speaker 2: got rid of that, moved in with him, and I

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Speaker 2: hadn't really like checked over his finances. We had talked

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Speaker 2: a lot about it. I trusted him, thinking what he

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Speaker 2: said was right obviously, and it wasn't. He was gambling

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Speaker 2: after I went to bed every night and just kind

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Speaker 2: of stringing me along. And it was months and months

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Speaker 2: of me kind of feeling like something is wrong until

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Speaker 2: I put myself in the hospital because I thought I

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Speaker 2: was going crazy. And then finally I realized he couldn't

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Speaker 2: keep the secret anymore, and he fessed up and yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're we're just kind of trucking through.

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Speaker 1: I really hope they don't put a prize picks ad.

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Speaker 1: After this call, I told him not to do that anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, these I'd keep coming up now.

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Speaker 1: For what for on my on my show?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, on just like around our house, I

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Speaker 2: feel like it's like they're listening.

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Speaker 1: Do you was that what was it sports betting? Or

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Speaker 1: was he like a casino guy? What was this thing?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Backro online? It's like, I actually don't know, but it's

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Speaker 2: a casino game. But I guess it gives more game

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Speaker 2: than like just like hitting a button. So I think

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Speaker 2: he felt like he could outsmart it. But you're not

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Speaker 2: out smarting not shit.

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Speaker 1: Mmmmmm so uh so it drove you crazy. You went

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Speaker 1: to the hospital. And how long ago is that?

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Speaker 2: That was an May? The beginning of May?

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Speaker 1: Okay, how are you doing now?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing better now. I feel a lot more clear headed.

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Speaker 2: I feel kind of like I wasn't really the root

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Speaker 2: but I don't like to blame them for it either.

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Speaker 1: Why did you think you were the root of his

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Speaker 1: gambling problem?

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know it was a gambling problem. I

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Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago. But we were running into a

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Speaker 2: I felt like our communication was falling off and I'd

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Speaker 2: been giving up like pieces of myself to kind of

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Speaker 1: Hmmm, are you guys still together?

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Speaker 2: We're still together. I am currently there because I well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be with him, but I also don't

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Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2: Well, more so like where I live. We just we

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Speaker 2: financially put myself in. So right now I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: leaning on him to be my roommates. I guess, mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like the issues that you guys had

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Speaker 2: If the gambling could actually stop, then I think that

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Speaker 1: Oh he's still he's still he's still gambling. No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is. I think if it could permanent,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like it's a long time that I'm hoping

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Speaker 2: I gotta I think I've got to see like a

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Speaker 2: couple of months of of progress, I guess at least.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And so what I mean, what do you got

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What do you have in place for your communication about that?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I've got the passwords?

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Speaker 1: How do you get the past words to the account?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, let's hope he doesn't open any other ones.

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Speaker 2: But but I'm logging in.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so this is your is your fiance? Are

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Speaker 1: you guys? Like do you guys have like going to

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Speaker 1: bank accounts together? Like how financially intertwined? Exactly? Are you?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: So I kind of put the kibosh to that. That

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Speaker 2: realized he couldn't weasel out of it anymore. He couldn't

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Speaker 2: just kind of ask me for it or let me

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Speaker 2: just pay for things. But yeah, no, we're separate accounts

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Speaker 2: right now, and I'm keeping it as separate as possible.

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Speaker 2: We were we were making big purchases, obviously because there

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Speaker 2: was a wedding coming up. So those haven't I put

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Speaker 2: a stop to those? How long have you guys, not

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Speaker 1: How long have you guys been together.

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Speaker 2: We've been together for three years.

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Speaker 1: How much money did he lose?

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Speaker 2: He hasn't given me a full number, honestly.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: We won't drop a number.

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Speaker 4: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And so what when you kind of at first

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Speaker 1: like confronted him about this, what how did he respond?

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Speaker 2: Well, he was the one who came to me with

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Speaker 1: So who's paying for things? Are you guys? Like in

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Speaker 2: Well, he takes care of our house and then I

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Speaker 2: And I think that was his way of easily letting

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Speaker 2: Sure that our like mortgage is paid off.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So well, okay, so he pays mortgage into a

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Speaker 1: you're paying for everything else in your guys's life. Yeah, okay, but.

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Speaker 2: Just been a bad deal.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, No, it's not a bad deal.

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Speaker 2: But if you were roommates not partners.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, okay you can. I you sent me a

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, that was a while, not even not long ago, but.

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Speaker 1: A month ago. Yeah, okay, well you said, let's see

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Speaker 1: here you wrote. I'm currently engaged and looking forward to

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Speaker 1: the rest of my life, and then you wrote a

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Speaker 1: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 1: So what I mean if you still want to I

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: This all before I found out this stuff, and I

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Speaker 2: guess there's a lot that I'm placing on this one instance.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sorry said there's a lot that you're placing

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Speaker 1: Sure and listen, I I personally, I mean it's very easy.

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Speaker 1: I don't really have answers to these questions. I think

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Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes that's the right move. And then

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Speaker 1: other times of situations where people are like, you know,

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Speaker 1: And uh, I don't I don't in any wayship from

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Speaker 1: like you, I think existentially about this stuff, and I

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Speaker 1: there's just what you pick that aligns with how you're feeling,

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Speaker 1: But like, do you what makes you feel like? Because

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Speaker 1: you're also saying like I'm struggling with the idea of

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Speaker 1: and also the way in which the breach of trust

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Speaker 2: I heard somebody say I believe in love because I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how could you think that your fiance's

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Speaker 1: Sidney, your name is Yeah, how old are you?

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Speaker 1: You're twenty four?

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Speaker 1: That's like, you know, that's way. That's more finances, that's

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Speaker 2: I like that. I feel like I'm gonna take a

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Speaker 1: All right, Man, is there anything else you have to

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Speaker 2: Just peace and love, Get blessed.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Sidney, get bless I will see you around

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Speaker 1: the universe. Good luck in Edmonton.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, It'll see you, dude, bute.

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Speaker 1: That was Sydney. Oh man, you know what it is.

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Speaker 1: You know what it is. Man, is like, I know,

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Speaker 3: I try.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really like uh, I mean, shit

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Speaker 1: They're like, no, you totally shouldn't do that. Sometimes I'm

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Speaker 3: Hello, Yes, Hello, Hi.

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Speaker 1: What's your name?

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Speaker 3: My name is Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Jackson Jackson, Florida. Jackson was the name of Miley Stewart's

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Speaker 1: Because we know what Billy ray Cyrus is doing. Right,

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Speaker 1: he's like famous, But what's the brother doing? Hold on, no,

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Speaker 1: he's not. I think my size has a real brother,

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Speaker 1: but this is like her cartoon brother on the show.

443
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Speaker 1: What was his name? Jason Earls? Whoa right, Jason Earl? Okay,

444
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: he's four. Oh, he's almost fifty. He has a child,

445
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: he's married. Well, he's only five to five. I remember

446
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: him being taller. That's cool.

447
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: Damn.

448
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: If Jason Earl's can do it, we can all do it.

449
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Let's see what's he doing. What's he doing now?

450
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: Is he?

451
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: Oh?

452
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: He has a podcast, he has a he has a

453
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: best of both. He has a podcast. It's called the

454
00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: Best of Both Worlds and it's Hannah Montana re Watch podcast.

455
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen anything like that? Like you ever

456
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: watched like you know how like the nets de classified

457
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: kids have a thing that they do.

458
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: I call him, but that's the one I've heard of.

459
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: I didn't.

460
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 6: I had no idea that he had one for Montana.

461
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 6: I mean, is it he just sits there and watches

462
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 6: the episode?

463
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: Is that Let's let's hold on. Let's sorry. And I'm

464
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing my own podcast right now, but

465
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: let's look at this. Let's look at Jason Arles's podcast.

466
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: It's the Hannah Montana It's an unofficial Handah Montana Rewatch podcast.

467
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: Unofficial Okay, this is He looks like he's having fun.

468
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: He looks like he's having a good time. I don't

469
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: know who's on. I guess I remember, Yeah, what do

470
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: you remember about him?

471
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 6: I remember him being I mean I was pretty young,

472
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 6: like I remember my sister loved Tanna Montana, but I

473
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 6: never like sought it out. But I remember always thinking

474
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 6: he was funny. Was he also on that show kicking It?

475
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: Was that? Is that the same guy or my you.

476
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: Know, I have Jason. I have Jason Earls's Wikipedia page

477
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: up right now so I can touch. Yes, he was

478
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: on a show called Kicking It. He was He directed

479
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: four episodes. He directed for You Want You Want Something Crazy. Okay,

480
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: this is the last thing I'll say about Jason Earls,

481
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: who played Hannah Montana's brother on the Hannah Montana sitcom.

482
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: The last thing I will say about him. Get this.

483
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: He was my age. He was twenty eight years old

484
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: when he played Hannah Montana's brother. Guess how old Hannah

485
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: Montana's brother is supposed to be in the show. Guess all.

486
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: The character is supposed to.

487
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: Be seventeen sixteen. Oh and he was twenty eight.

488
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: Dude, you know what's crazy?

489
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 4: Wait?

490
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: Hold on, I gotta look back at There's no way

491
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: he looked sixteen while he was doing he did.

492
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 6: He's a young he was the young looking guy.

493
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: I feel like I remember that, Jackson.

494
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: What made you want to call me today? We can

495
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: talk about your life? Oh wait, holy shit, wait, you're

496
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: calling me back? Oh wait, hold on, I called you.

497
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you've called me a couple of times, and I've

498
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 6: wait work and I missed it, and.

499
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: Holy okay, we've never wait, okay, we've never we've never

500
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: spoken on the phone before. Right.

501
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 6: Oh, no, you've read one of my emails.

502
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, you've been you know, you texted me.

503
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: I've been trying to call you. I just do this

504
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: thing now where I record the podcast by calling back

505
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: people who texted me like three days ago. It's a

506
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: very inefficient and stupid way of doing this. But okay,

507
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: you tell okay, all right, let me set the scene here.

508
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you sent me two interesting things, but let's

509
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: talk about the first one. Uh, you emailed me on

510
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: gek mail, like however long ago, and you told me

511
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: that you have a job where you do a three

512
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: hour commute two ways, correct.

513
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 6: That is correct, and actually sometimes it was more than

514
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 6: three hours.

515
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: And so you're so you're spending six hours in a

516
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: train or a car.

517
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: Uh it was a train, yeah.

518
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: Okay, spending six hours in a train. And you told

519
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: me that you really enjoyed having a six hour round

520
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: trip commute to work every day.

521
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 6: You know, when you say it out loud, it makes

522
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 6: you sound absolutely insane.

523
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: It makes you sound absolutely insane. And that's what I

524
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: was talking about when I read the email. As I

525
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: was like, that's this is insane. Why do you do this?

526
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: And then I think you sent me maybe you send

527
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: me another email being like call me. A lot of

528
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: the times people send me emails and they're like call

529
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: me if you know, I don't usually really do that,

530
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, like the email just be the email. But

531
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: this was one where I was like I got to

532
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: know why the fuck you did that?

533
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I can go over it, and can go.

534
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: Over please why I was doing that?

535
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: Please please?

536
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 6: I guess see, I'll just start where my my fiance

537
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 6: and I well girlfriend at the time, were living in

538
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 6: Philly and actually I went to one of your shows.

539
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 6: We both went to one of your shows and earned Philly.

540
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: It was great, sweet maybe, and so.

541
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Speaker 6: We have Yeah, we were living in Philly. We both

542
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 6: graduated from college and degrees that got us a fair

543
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 6: bit of student loans. So we were in Philly for

544
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 6: about man. So we graduated in twenty twenty four and

545
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 6: then yeah, this was end of last year when we

546
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 6: were like, we need to do something, like we're barely

547
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 6: Philly obviously, you know it was expensive, any city is,

548
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 6: but uh, everything the.

549
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: Coss is rising.

550
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 6: So we were like, we got to do something and

551
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 6: like to save some money, Like we want to get

552
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 6: these student loans. We want to like see the world,

553
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 6: We want to do so much stuff. But we felt

554
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 6: really tied down. So we moved in with my fiance's parents,

555
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 6: who live about like Bens if you take the tolls

556
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 6: away because Pennsylvania Turnpike is real expensive, but it's about

557
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 6: like two three hour drive.

558
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: So we moved in.

559
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 6: With them, and I was working a job that I

560
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 6: was I had like a hybrid schedule, so I would

561
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 6: work two, two or three days a week from home.

562
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 6: And I thought, like in my head, like I liked

563
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 6: the job, Like it was in the like sector of

564
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 6: like what my my degree was, and like I was

565
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 6: very lucky to get it right out of college, because

566
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: you know a lot of people kind of struggle a

567
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 6: bit to find a job. So I was like I

568
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 6: wanted to stay. And like my manager was super great,

569
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 6: like everyone I worked with was awesome, Like, yeah, it's

570
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 6: totally worth it. I'm gonna I'm going to just take

571
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 6: the train. I'm gonna get up at five am in

572
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 6: the morning and have my fance's dad draw me to

573
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 6: the train station. I'm going to take a two hour

574
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 6: train to a train stop near my job in Philly

575
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 6: and then I'm going to take an uber if it's well,

576
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 6: it was the dead of winter, so yeah, I had

577
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 6: to take an uber. I couldn't walk to my job

578
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 6: and then work eight hours and then take an uber

579
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: to train station one of the regional rails, and then

580
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 6: take a regional train to thirtieth Street in Philly and

581
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 6: then take a train back to Harrisburg and then have

582
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 6: someone took me up at like nine o'clock at night.

583
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 6: That's insane, Yeah, and I mean it, it was insane,

584
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 6: And I think I was insanely optimistic. I wasn't very

585
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 6: optimistic at the start, Like I knew it was gonna

586
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 6: be tough, but no.

587
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: See, but I remember in the email you you enjoyed.

588
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 6: It, yeah, at the start, because I think I can't

589
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 6: remember exactly when I sent that email, but I believe

590
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 6: that was like a couple of weeks into when I

591
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 6: was doing it, and I did enjoy Like sitting on

592
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 6: the train, like I've read more than I ever read

593
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 6: in my life.

594
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: I was like writing, like I love I make music.

595
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 6: I was I made some of my favorite songs have

596
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 6: ever made from like writing lyrics on the train a

597
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 6: lot of it was like train and travel based, but

598
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 6: like it gave me a lot of inspiration that way,

599
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 6: and I was just it was nice to just sit

600
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 6: there and zone out.

601
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: But like.

602
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 6: The way there was a lot better than on the

603
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 6: way back. Like I just want to be home. I

604
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 6: just want to be with my family. I just want

605
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 6: to I get The first couple of weeks was doable

606
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 6: and like I was like, yeah, this is fine, like

607
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 6: I'm I have some extra time to do stuff. But yeah,

608
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 6: after definitely, after I sent that email a couple of weeks,

609
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 6: like into the new year, I was like, yeah, I

610
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 6: need to find a new job. Like I can't do this,

611
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 6: Like it's I was so burnt out. I was drinking

612
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 6: like four celsius of a day.

613
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Okay, so what

614
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: do you do now?

615
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, So in when it was that March, I got

616
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 6: a new job near here, near Harrisburg, which is about

617
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 6: and my commute is a whole thirty minutes thirty minute drive.

618
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 6: So it's like I felt like I gained a new life,

619
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 6: like I have. I was so I was doing that

620
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 6: train commute from December of twenty twenty five to end

621
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 6: of March twenty twenty six, so a good couple months.

622
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 6: And yeah, like just the amount of time that I

623
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 6: feel like I've gotten back. I I can like go

624
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 6: home and it's five o'clock and the sun is still

625
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 6: out and I can I've Yeah, I mean there's a

626
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 6: lot of stuff I've gotten into since having a normal schedule.

627
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: Again.

628
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're telling me that your life has gotten expanded

629
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: and improved by having five and a half extra hours

630
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: a day.

631
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 6: Isn't that crazy? But I will say I've been playing

632
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 6: like I haven't made as I haven't been as musically inspired,

633
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 6: so I think I lost some musical inspiration. But that's

634
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 6: you know, I think you got to give and take

635
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 6: some things.

636
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: So you know, I get, no, I get it, I

637
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: get I mean I like I Also I like being

638
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: in transit as well. I feel like it's a good

639
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: excuse to like let your brain sort of dwindle. You know,

640
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: It's like there's no there's no pressure. There's not a

641
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: lot of pressure like you're in because you're in, Like

642
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: your body feels like it's being productive because it's physically

643
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: moving somewhere. Yeah, so it's not as much pressure, but

644
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: six hours a little overkill. I'm glad that you found

645
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: a nice balance to your life. Wait you test me

646
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: another thing that want to ask you about. Yeah, you

647
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: said that, you said your dad abandoned you to become

648
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: a rumble streamer.

649
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, that is uh the unfortunate truth.

650
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: Okay, For those who don't know, Rumble is like the

651
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: how would you describe rumble rumbles? Sort of like a

652
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: it's sort of right wing right.

653
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like the Twitch for extreme far right conservatives.

654
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

655
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Twitch for extreme far right conservatives.

656
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

657
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 6: I mean this this goes back a couple of years

658
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 6: where I mean, I've had a whole bunch of family

659
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 6: problems and like it would it would take a long

660
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 6: time to explain, and I'm not the best with storytelling

661
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 6: and with my words. I think it'd be kind of jumbled.

662
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean he I always had a good

663
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 6: relationship with my dad, so him and my biological mom

664
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 6: got divorced when I was like three, So I don't

665
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 6: even like know my mom.

666
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: I never remember my mom.

667
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 6: So I was like raised like half by my dad

668
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 6: and half by my grandparents. My grandparents are like the

669
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 6: best people in the world, and so I've I was

670
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 6: like close with him, but never like never like those

671
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 6: people who are like, oh yeah, I like tell my

672
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 6: parents everything, like they're my best friend. Like I never

673
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 6: really felt like that. And he throughout the years, like

674
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 6: when I was in elementary school in middle school, he

675
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 6: had like different women around that he got like he

676
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 6: got engaged to one woman and then the engagement fell out,

677
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 6: and then he'd started dating with other women and didn't work.

678
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 6: And then I saw I always had like a warped

679
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 6: perception of like motherhood throughout my youthful years, which wasn't nice.

680
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 6: But it goes down to the point where we get

681
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 6: to the point where he marries this final woman we'll

682
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 6: call her Sue, and she like everything was good at first.

683
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 6: She's she had her own two sons and a daughter

684
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 6: who become like two became my step siblings, and they

685
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 6: were great. Everything was like fine and dandy, like a

686
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 6: great blended family at first. And I have one biological

687
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 6: sister that like saying moms saying dad, And she was

688
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 6: very like troubled like mentally in her youth, where actually

689
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 6: not even very troubled. She was just like depressed and

690
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 6: had some like the harm issues and like and stuff

691
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 6: like that like kind of like sometimes normal teen behavior

692
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 6: that like, oh, you're like a rebel kind of but

693
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 6: like she was. She was very like would stay here

694
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 6: in a room all day, like eating her room and whatever,

695
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 6: like wasn't the cleanest, which is fine, you know, like

696
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 6: she was a kid. Like we didn't have the best upbringing,

697
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 6: so it wasn't like an insane issue in my eyes

698
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 6: at least, like looking back at it now obviously as

699
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 6: I'm older.

700
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 4: But.

701
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 6: I I don't know how I can how I word this.

702
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 6: At the time, I didn't know this, but I my

703
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 6: dad and Sue were like not treating my sister the

704
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 6: very best, and they were like they were abusing her.

705
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 6: And I had no idea at the time, like I

706
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 6: was a kid whatever. And okay, sorry, I'm kind of rambling.

707
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 6: I'm never some I'm talking to therapy.

708
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: That's all right, I'm fucking well, what is your well, Okay,

709
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: we can do it as more of a conversation if

710
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: that would be easier.

711
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that would be better for me.

712
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: What does your dad stream on Rumble?

713
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 6: He does, Like it's it's like a live podcast. It's

714
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 6: kind of just him talking to the camera and like

715
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 6: he has these other random internet people that he met

716
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 6: online and they just kind of talk.

717
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: Hm hm.

718
00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 6: That's and he has like he is very right being conservative,

719
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 6: and he they talk about stuff like that and talk

720
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 6: about politics and like get angry yet stuff like that.

721
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmm. Do you ever watch it?

722
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the thing. In the beginning.

723
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 6: Uh, he started streaming while I still had a relationship

724
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 6: with him. Yeah, So I was like I would even

725
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 6: like take part out, like he would had this thing

726
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 6: and like he built like this shed, like gazebo thing

727
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 6: in the backyard where he would stream outside. Like I

728
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 6: sometimes I would even like go up and like be

729
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 6: in it, like what's.

730
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

731
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

732
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 6: And this was like uh like two or three years ago,

733
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 6: so he would it was like fairly normal at first,

734
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 6: just like oh, like this is fun, my dad's like

735
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 6: doing live streaming or whatever. But then it just got

736
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 6: to a point where he was like he would go

737
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 6: to work, come home stream for the rest of the night,

738
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 6: not talk to anybody, and then just like and also

739
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 6: I mean the main the main talking point of his

740
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 6: stream is like alcohol, like bourbon and stuff. So he

741
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 6: would just get drunk every single day, go on stream

742
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 6: every Friday, he'd stay up till like three am talking

743
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 6: to these random people online.

744
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: Wo and it was just.

745
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 6: Not good. And I know the what kind of was

746
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 6: the breaking point for me was New Year's of twenty

747
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 6: twenty four. Yeah, so the year before I graduated, I

748
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 6: was visiting for New Year's like the Christmas breaker over

749
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 6: from school, and I was leaving. Actually, he does like

750
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 6: a twenty four hour stream every New Year's Eve and

751
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 6: crazy with his all of his online friends, and he

752
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 6: like I was leaving, like to go back to Philly,

753
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 6: go back living with my girlfriend at the time, and

754
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 6: he just like wouldn't come inside and say by to me.

755
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 6: It's like all like I'm streaming. It's like I'm like

756
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 6: I'm streaming, and he wanted me to like go out

757
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 6: there and like say bye to him like everyone on

758
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 6: the stream, and like, oh.

759
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: That sounds man. You know, I can't wait till I

760
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: have a kid and I can I can get drunk

761
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: all the time and ignore them to live stream myself

762
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: as a gecko talking to people.

763
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was very strange, and it just it got

764
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 6: to the point where an amalgamation of that of him

765
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 6: being obsessed with streaming and all the stuff that I

766
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 6: found out from you know, my family of like what

767
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 6: he and my stepmom did, Ye, sir, and like.

768
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's I mean, that's crazy.

769
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: Man.

770
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: When's the last time we talked to him?

771
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: Oh?

772
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 6: Uh, it's over two years now.

773
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: Do you do you Does your sister still talk to him?

774
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: Does like anyone in the family still talk to him?

775
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: No?

776
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: He Uh. That's one of the things.

777
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 6: When I was still part of that household, like him

778
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 6: and my stepmom, they isolated us from everyone else in

779
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 6: my family, like my grandparents, my aunt, like my cousins.

780
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 6: So like they told us that like they were the

781
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 6: bad people that like, oh those like I would go

782
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 6: and like walk my dogs my grandparents' house because we

783
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 6: lived literally down the street from them, and I'd walk

784
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 6: the dog to my grandparents house, and when I'd come back,

785
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 6: they'd like be angry at me that I went to

786
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 6: see my grandparents. And so during that time, from I

787
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 6: guess like twenty fifteen, a whole like ten years I

788
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 6: didn't see like any of the rest of my family,

789
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 6: Like I missed Thanksgivings, like birthday all this stuff, like

790
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 6: just because in that house my dad and my stepmom

791
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 6: were telling us that Yep, they're the bad people there.

792
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 6: Stay away from them. And my sister actually they kicked

793
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 6: her out and she moved in with my grandparents when

794
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 6: she turned eighteen. So I didn't see my sister either

795
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 6: for about ten years. And only after the I graduated

796
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 6: and I started to learn these things. I started to

797
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 6: start to see like the truth. I like reconnected with

798
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 6: my sister and she told me everything, like and I

799
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 6: reconnected with my grandparents and then they told us everything,

800
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 6: and like you know, there always is like two sides

801
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 6: to every story, and it's just my dad and my

802
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 6: step I'm like, never gave proof of anything, is all

803
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 6: I just told us.

804
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 3: Yep, this happened.

805
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 6: But like there's my sister had like video proof, photo

806
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 6: proof like Facebook that my step mom made on like

807
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 6: a step mom Facebook group saying oh my step guard

808
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 6: is the worst person in the world, and she like

809
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 6: would tear through her room and stuff like yeah, it

810
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 6: was just okay, it was really bad. Like I lost

811
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 6: ten years with them, but luckily about two years ago, Okay,

812
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 6: I reconnected with all of them and we're like super

813
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 6: close now.

814
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: So how are you doing now? Are you doing better?

815
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: Are you doing good?

816
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic. I really am great. Like it really

817
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: did hit me really.

818
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 6: Hard, like in twenty twenty four, like end of that year,

819
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 6: like I started going to therapy because of all.

820
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 3: All the stuff that just got.

821
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 6: Unraveled in the amount of months, the like the small

822
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 6: amount of months. And yeah, like I've, like I said,

823
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 6: I've retected with my sister. I call her like every week.

824
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 6: She actually one of like the favorite things that's happened

825
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 6: in the past two years. I proposed to my my

826
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 6: girlfriend and my novel back in October of last year,

827
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 6: thank You. And my sister was the one who was

828
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 6: like the secret photographer, Like she was the one hiding

829
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 6: the bushes, and I had this whole plan where.

830
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: Like I set up a picnic beforehand at this park and.

831
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 6: She like got up at seven am, set up everything,

832
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 6: hitting the bushes and was like and captured the moment,

833
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 6: and like it was just it just felt like the

834
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 6: perfect moment, like the perfect thing to happen, like reconnecting

835
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 6: my sister, and like my fiance has been with me

836
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 6: through every single step of this and she's been the

837
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 6: best person that could I possibly have next to me,

838
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 6: So like.

839
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, it was really great. It was just cool. Man.

840
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 6: It was unfortunate that a couple months later I had

841
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 6: to start that six hour commute, which dumped things down

842
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 6: of it.

843
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad that you I'm I'm glad it's only

844
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: thirty minutes now, Jackson. Yeah, thanks for sharing all of this, man.

845
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: Was did it feel good to talk about.

846
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? It did.

847
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 6: I haven't talked about it in a while, and I

848
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 6: have started.

849
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: It's fun.

850
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 6: I've started to think about those things recently again, like

851
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 6: I try to push them out of my mind, but

852
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 6: they start to you know, they pop up every once

853
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 6: in a while. So yeah, it's always good to talk

854
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 6: about it. And and I'm not the bit of a rambler.

855
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 6: I'm not like the best talker, so it was good

856
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 6: to piget it out and obviously talking to you, it's

857
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 6: been great, dude.

858
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

859
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?

860
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: Uh?

861
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I've started to to call everyone that

862
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 6: I love and I know on a weekly basis now,

863
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 6: and it's been like such a game changer, Like even

864
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 6: just calling my uncle that I barely talked to, Like

865
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 6: just catching up with everyone. Just if that's like one

866
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 6: thing I could tell people to do like that. Would

867
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 6: It's it's such like a simple task and you didn't

868
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 6: think much of it. But even just like a ten

869
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 6: minute call to people you love every day or every

870
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 6: once a week, once a month, whatever, Yeah, it's it'll

871
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 6: it's a big game changer.

872
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: So well, thanks for calling, Jackson, and uh good luck,

873
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of your entire life.

874
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: Thanks Bex.

875
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's great talking to you, and I'm been nervous

876
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 6: and rambling, but yeah, it's been great. And I want

877
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 6: to go to see one of your other live shows.

878
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 1: So oh cool, man, cool.

879
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 3: I know you're back in Philly again, So I'm.

880
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: Back in Philly. Man, come hang, i'd be cool.

881
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

882
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we meet in person, I'll be Yeah, we

883
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: meet in person, I'll be like, you're a guy with

884
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: a dad on rumble.

885
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

886
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 6: When I did meet you in Philly two years ago

887
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 6: and you said you like my green shirt, so fuck you.

888
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah wear it again.

889
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 6: Yeah I still have it. I also have actually I

890
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 6: have your merch shirt that I got from there.

891
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, thanks man, thanks, thanks man, I'll see you.

892
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: I'll see you in Philly hopefully. Man.

893
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: You take care right, Thanks Jack You too by Jackson.

894
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: Bye, that was Jackson.

895
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 4: Hello.

896
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up?

897
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: Man?

898
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can't believe. Actually, it's doctor you.

899
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: How's it going? You know it's going, It's going good man.

900
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm properly uh caffeinated. I'm properly uh medicated. In

901
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: this particular moment, I'm feeling like my brain is fully

902
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: ready to engage with whatever you have to throw at it.

903
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: So I'm hell yeah, I'm I'm present. I'm not always present.

904
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't always do a good job. I fucked up

905
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: with the uh. I don't know if you listened to

906
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: the podcast, but the guy last week who I uh?

907
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: I I I cut off his story because I wanted

908
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with him. I'm not It's not perfect,

909
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: but I'm here. I'm trying. We're gonna. I feel ready.

910
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's I'm not always one hundred percent.

911
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: I could show up, but at least for but I

912
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: feel ready right now. So let's do it. Let's be here.

913
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm ready to talk to you. I will you know what,

914
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: I'll cut you. I'll cut someone off again. I'll do

915
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: it again. I'll do it again. No, I'm just kidding.

916
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: That guy was fine, that I was cool. I liked

917
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: I liked that guy. I like that guy that I

918
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: cut off. He was a good guy. Okay, sorry, I'm

919
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: getting too meta. What's up, man? What's your name?

920
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 4: Jake? Jake? Jake, Jake, Jake.

921
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: You texted me and you said you said, I'd like

922
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: to talk about a motorcycle accident involving a deer that

923
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: changed the direction of my life.

924
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. So basically last year, like July eighteenth,

925
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 4: I got home from work and my buddy already planning

926
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 4: on going on a bike ride. And I got a

927
00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 4: hold of him, like, yo, you want to go on

928
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 4: like a different route the way he planned. He's like sure.

929
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 4: So then I got home and I never night ride.

930
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 4: I never go out at dark or anything. I have

931
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 4: a two thousand and six Harley Davids and did super glad,

932
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: nice little motorcycle. And anyways, we go up north. I'm

933
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 4: from northern New York and our trip was supposed to

934
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 4: be like two hours, and because you know, he wanted

935
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 4: to stop for fuel, and we stopped and got some food.

936
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: We were thirty minutes north of I live with my parents.

937
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 4: In twenty two, we were thirty minutes north of my parents' house,

938
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 4: and basically, we'll let me back up poll on. So

939
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 4: basically we went by a well known location up north

940
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 4: northern New York, a lake by chance, I'm not going

941
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 4: to say where, but went by that. And first of all,

942
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: this is the worst part, or one of the worst parts,

943
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 4: is a turkey almost aheaded me flying out into the road.

944
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 4: Wow where they yeah, tar from It just came from

945
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 4: the shoulder, out of nowhere. Well, that was terrifying because

946
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 4: way back in the day, my parents know somebody, way

947
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 4: back in the day locally that got beheaded by a

948
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 4: turkey on the motorcycle and died.

949
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: So go aheaded getting beheaded by a turkey on a

950
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: motorcycle sounds kind of cool.

951
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 4: So then fast forward that happens, and then we keep

952
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 4: going and eventually we stop and get some food, and

953
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 4: then we start heading on home. And I didn't know

954
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 4: where the fuck I was because sorry, I spore, but

955
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: I didn't know where I was. It was dark, and

956
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 4: he's ahead of me. I'm near the shoulder, he's near

957
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 4: the middle of the road, and we're coming up on

958
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 4: like this. There's like a road sign. They look I'm like, okay,

959
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 4: I know where I am now, and as I look back,

960
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 4: he's flashing his brake lights. And what's walking across the

961
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 4: road is a Clydesdale size horse. Mind you, it's pitch

962
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: black outside, and there is a horse that broke out

963
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 4: of an amish field literally walking right across the road,

964
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: and he almost got fucking you know, he almost hit it,

965
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 4: and then I had to swerve. And then literally not

966
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 4: even a minute down the road from that, I took

967
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: lead because he was scared shitless, mind you. We had intercoms,

968
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: and my intercom shit the bed and our helmets or

969
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 4: my helmets, so then I couldn't talk to him. He's

970
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 4: freaking out. I take lead, and then literally a minute

971
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 4: down the road from that, I'm going like fifty because

972
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: then eventually he started to catch up to me because

973
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 4: he wanted to take lead again. And literally going fifty

974
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: miles an hour, the deer came from the left side

975
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 4: of the road out of the shoulder, freaking hit me.

976
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 4: I went down. They ricked a shade and hit him.

977
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 4: Its head smacked his head, and then its body body

978
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 4: slammed his leg into his gas tank. But he luckily

979
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: didn't go down because if he would have went down,

980
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 4: he would have hit the wire guard rail would have

981
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 4: fucking died. And then I, luckily didn't go over my

982
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 4: handlebars or anything. I just went down and I ended

983
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 4: up breaking my tabula or tibia whatever the fuck, and

984
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: my fibula, like the both bones down there, and then

985
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 4: also completely ripped my foot out of its socket and

986
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 4: like pore all the muscles and ligaments.

987
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 5: Z man.

988
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. So so my bike went down and it rode

989
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 4: on its crash bar, thank god, for like one hundred

990
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 4: and thirty feet, and there was also a car tailgating us.

991
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 4: So I immediately as soon as I hit the ground,

992
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 4: I knew my leg was destroyed. I got up and

993
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: I started hopping on one leg. That's where wrestling in

994
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: high school came in handy, because I got good balance.

995
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 4: I hopped on my one leg all the way to

996
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: my bike, and I laid down and I look up.

997
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 4: My foot is just hanging upside down and I could

998
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: still to move my toes and everything.

999
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: Wait, what do you mean your foot is hanging upside down?

1000
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 4: Like I'm laying on the ground and I'm looking at

1001
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: it and my foot like you know, like you know,

1002
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: if you lift your leg up and look at your foot.

1003
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: It should be up. My toes were completely facing the

1004
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 4: opposite direction, like completely backwards, dangling touching the ground. And

1005
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 4: my foot wasn't even touching the ground or my my leg.

1006
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: So your phone, so your toes were completely I'm trying

1007
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: to get a visually, so you're.

1008
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 4: No from your leg no no no no no. So

1009
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: like say you're laying on your back, and then you

1010
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 4: bring your leg up to a ninety you know how

1011
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 4: like your foot is like straight up. My foot was

1012
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: completely flipped the other way backwards, so like my toes

1013
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: were facing my ass ooh yeah. And then I ended

1014
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 4: up calling my old lady h well, I mean by

1015
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 4: fiance now. And then I uh got to hold my

1016
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 4: parents and then the people behind me called nine one

1017
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 4: one and they came up with their phone and everything,

1018
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 4: and here I am double fisting phones right in front

1019
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 4: of me, just trying to freaking tell people what's going on,

1020
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 4: and they're like, can you move your toes? And I'm like, yeah,

1021
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 4: so not a good time, not a good time at all.

1022
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: Now why do you tell me about? Uh? I mean,

1023
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: obviously you know an injury is going to change what's

1024
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: going on with you. In some degree, But the way

1025
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: you phrased it, you said, this changed the direction of

1026
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: my life. How did that happen?

1027
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 4: So, like, like I in the career that I'm in,

1028
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 4: I was basically, without giving away to him too much information,

1029
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 4: I do line work like lineman stuff like that, like

1030
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 4: power lines, and basically I was at the point in

1031
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 4: my apprenticeship where I was stationed where they basically told me,

1032
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 4: and it doesn't help because the people I'm only as

1033
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: good as you can teach me, and the people I

1034
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 4: are with do not want to did not want to teach,

1035
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: did not want to do anything, and just shit on

1036
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 4: me all the time. So they basically were telling me,

1037
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: you need to get the fuck out of here. And

1038
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 4: I was going to go to a different job and

1039
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 4: then there's no guarantee of coming back to it. Well

1040
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 4: then literally like this action happened, and then it put

1041
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 4: me on disability and I didn't end up getting that

1042
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 4: other job. And then, for the grace of God, you know,

1043
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 4: when I eventually healed up in like December, I did

1044
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 4: another job to get out of where I was to

1045
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 4: come back home, and I'm still was allowed to continue

1046
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 4: because now I'm in a different location so like, had

1047
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 4: this accent not have happened, I would have went and

1048
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 4: did something completely different, and it would have changed like

1049
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 4: a bunch of different things, like going forward, Like I

1050
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 4: would have ended up going to Maine and proposing my

1051
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 4: fiance there because I had an airbnb on a private

1052
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 4: island for six nights. That would have happened. But because

1053
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 4: this accident happened, it didn't happen. And that's just like

1054
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 4: an example of things that change. And then now I'm

1055
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 4: on projectory to you know, go further in my apprenticeship,

1056
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 4: and everything looks good for the future. But again, like

1057
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 4: had the accent not happened, I would have been a

1058
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 4: completely different department. Wouldn't even be doing what I'm doing now.

1059
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: And are you happy that you're what you're doing now?

1060
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I'm back home. I'm I

1061
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 4: live with my parents as it right now, back home

1062
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 4: learning a lot and with people that want to teach

1063
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 4: me and to learn, so that's you know, and I

1064
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 4: want to learn and these guys want to teach me,

1065
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 4: and that's that's a recipe for greatness, you know what

1066
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 4: I mean?

1067
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: Hm, cool man, mm hmmm. Do you have any advice

1068
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: to before we go, Do you have any advice to

1069
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: people out there who ride motorcycles on how to not

1070
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: get on, how to not get injured and die or

1071
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: get beheaded by a turkey?

1072
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 4: Definitely have your head on a silvo. I mean, my

1073
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 4: head wasn't. I'm a soul for that turkey. But uh.

1074
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 4: And then definitely don't ever ride at night or at

1075
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 4: least be I guess, very cautious and just be aware

1076
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: of your surroundings, because that's really what ended up happening

1077
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 4: was him and I weren't really aware. And like I said,

1078
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 4: I don't ever night ride, and I don't ever suggest it.

1079
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're in a city, that's fine. Out

1080
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 4: in the country where we were, you know, anything could happen.

1081
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: Man, even in the city. I mean it's like fucking

1082
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: uh yeah, but there's all such like I don't know. Yeah,

1083
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm biased because I'm not. I'm I'm anti motorcycle in general.

1084
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: But what I don't know, do you still ride motorcycles?

1085
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 4: Actually? I mean I haven't read it since, but I

1086
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 4: just sent my bike to get fixed because I was

1087
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 4: thinking of either selling it or it's a collector's edition.

1088
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 4: It's a FX thirty five Dinas super glid. It's a red,

1089
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 4: white and blue blah blah blah numbered whatever. I haven't

1090
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 4: ridden it, but my dad took it last or last

1091
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 4: year to get inspected. And there's a shake in the

1092
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Speaker 4: front pretty bad. Probably just the forks or something or whatever,

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Speaker 4: because like I said, all I did was just hit

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Speaker 4: the deer and then it went out's crash bar, so

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Speaker 4: really it shaved the crash bar and everything. But it

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Speaker 4: might forks that are messed up. I don't know. No,

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Speaker 4: I haven't written it since, but I still plan on writing.

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Speaker 1: It respect respect.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it shows a lot of dedication

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Speaker 1: to it, to your hobby, to almost die doing it

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Speaker 1: and to just keep doing it.

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Speaker 4: Either that or stupid to I mean, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jake, anything else you want to say to the folks

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Speaker 1: of the computer before we go.

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Speaker 4: No, I just I'm very grateful to be able to

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Speaker 4: talk to you. I never really thought i'd never actually

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Speaker 4: be able to get to talk to you, so it's

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Speaker 4: pretty pretty cool. And I've listened to you for a

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Speaker 4: while and everything. I mean, I didn't listen to the

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Speaker 4: podcast yeah that you were talking.

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Speaker 1: About and because yeah, sorry sorry, no, you're good.

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Speaker 4: Every day when I was driving, I fucking was listening

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Speaker 4: to the podcast and I would try to contact then

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Speaker 4: never got a hold of the oath. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: someday that'd be cool.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man, appreciate you sharing your story. Man, stay safe,

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Speaker 1: don't don't uh, don't die. I always get all freaked

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Speaker 1: out when people are like talking about a motorcycles and

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Speaker 1: extreme sports and things. But where a helmet.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't even going that fast either, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: just like fifty miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: Wham, wear a helmet, don't die, and I'll see you

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Speaker 1: in the universe, Jake.

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Speaker 4: Alrighty, I have a good one.

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Speaker 1: You two man, take care yep.

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Speaker 4: But Beacon goes on the line, taking your song calls

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Speaker 4: every night.

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Speaker 5: Beacon goes and just teaching you your lives.