1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: A Zone Media, Hello and welcome to this week's Better 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Offline Monologue. I'm your host ed Zetron, and goddamn am 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: I tired? I'm so tired of watching this routine, this 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: goddamn routine. Every single earnings, a big tech company talks 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: about the wonder of AI. They post growth of revenue, 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: and the finance media writes that that growth came from 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: selling AI, despite the fact that none of these companies 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: actually say how much they've earned from selling either AI 9 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: software or renting out GPUs. Isn't that weird? Isn't that 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: really weird? We're two years in, three years in, honestly, 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: and not a single one of them mentions how much 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: they make from AI. Microsoft did it two quarters running, 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: then they stopped. Not a problem, No need to check 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: in on the company that has now spent over two 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars since twenty twenty to building data centers 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: full of GPUs that they could make an amount of 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: revenue that they are deciding not to share, Like, just 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: are they shy? Are they shy? Are they? Is the 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: revenue too good? Oh? I couldn't possibly, I'm too shy. 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't share me AI revenue perhaps somebody should report 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: this out sometime. In any case, everybody is aggressively intensely 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: ignoring the elephant in the room. Open ai, the billion 23 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: dollar baby that loves burning billions of dollars. Who both 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: the California and Delaware attorneys general decided to let convert 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: to a for profit entity, and guess one, open aiy 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: is already gearing up to go public in twenty twenty seven. 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: You know what, fuck him? Let them, Let them file 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: a goddamn S one. Show me the innards of this company. 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: I bet open Aiy's books are going to look like 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: a dog's dinner coming out of its asshole on Thanksgiving. 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: The Register reported earlier this week that has disclosed as 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: part of Microsoft's earnings, open ai lost over eleven billion 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: dollars in the last quarter. Why any of us pretending 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: this makes sense? Why why are we doing this? Why 35 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: are we pretending that open ai makes sense as a company? 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: What does this company do, what have they done previously 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: and what will they do in the future that justifies 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: any of this. I don't know if I have AI 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: booster listeners. I don't know if any of you are 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: really big AI fans. I don't know. If you are, 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: please contact me and tell me why you believe it's 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: worth it. And if your answer is well, companies burned 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: a lot of money to get to where they were 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: in the future, what has to come out of this 45 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: entity that will justify this expense? Because that's really the 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: thing that I'm rolling around in my mind. What justifies 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: all of this? What justifies the capex? What justifies the 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: open AI wants to raise sixty billion dollars at the 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: IPO in twenty twenty seven. It will never happen, but nevertheless, like, 50 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: what is it that justifies all that? Is it the 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: data centers? What will the data centers do? Nothing? It's 52 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: going to be more of the same. And that's before 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: you get to the fact that the demand isn't there. 54 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: It's just exhausting. I know, I'm repeating myself, I'm not 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: really gonna stop, though I might have no intention of stopping. 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: In fact, I think I'm gonna go harder. And I 57 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: know it's really easy at times like this, when the 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: world feels suffocating and illogical and unforgiving and dishonest and 59 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: frustrating and confusing, to turn our guns inward, to tear 60 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: down into disarm and disparage to fight back through isolating 61 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: ourselves further. But these are the motives and moves of 62 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: those who do not see a future, who crave an 63 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: eternal status quo where history must repeat the enrichment cycles, 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: the same mistakes that left us in a growth driven 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: near apocalypse for three straight years, that have empowered Charlatan's 66 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: like Altman and Amerday because they resembled stories of the 67 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: past heroes of the tech industry like Uber and Aws 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: enough to keep you warm and fuzzy every night without 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: worrying about whether gravity exists. Good sense and mathematics don't 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: need to matter when you're smoking enough copium that you're 71 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: already imagining your next trip to visit the remains of 72 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: the Titanic. So I'm gonna tell you something. I'm going 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: to tell you to do something dramatic, and yes, we 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: all know where this is from, but I want you 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: to say this out loud, as quietly as you want, 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: or as loudly as you want. Fuck these people. Doesn't 77 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: that feel good? Fuck these people? Fuck them? God, I'm 78 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: told I can't swear that you can't address this financial 79 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: insanity without anything other than the calm pois of a 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: fucking monk. But how else am I meant to react 81 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: to Sam Orman promising superintelligence for the umpteenth time, or 82 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: claiming in twenty twenty seven or twenty twenty eight will 83 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: have automated AI science, or signing deals for a trillion 84 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: dollars of stuff that this company can never afford. Am 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: I meant to applaud? Am I meant to be excited? 86 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: Look at the rest of the tech industry. I mean, 87 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: you can look at chat, GPT, but even outside of it, 88 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: our social networks look terrible. Facebook is a minefield of 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: scams and AI slop. Instagram is fifty percent ads or more. 90 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: Our email accounts are full of spam. I get five 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: spam calls a day. Everything needs a fucking account. Fuck 92 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: the future for a second. Can we just get the 93 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: things that we use every data fucking work again? Or 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: is that too much to ask in an era where 95 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: everything must grow eternally? I swear to God, the most 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: impressive technology anybody could launch this year is something that 97 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: actually does what it's fucking meant to. Pardon me for 98 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: being a little salty, but God, every day in the 99 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: news somebody talks about how are in the midst of 100 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: a glorious era of artificial intelligence, Yet the products we 101 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: use have never felt dumber. It's trite, I know, but 102 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: three years into a hype cycle specifically oriented around intelligence 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: software that changes our life, it feels like I should 104 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: have something anything that feels like it's measurably improved. Every 105 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: product feels worse everything. But aside how you may feel 106 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: about AI, and be real, is there something out there 107 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: that's actually improved for you? Is there a single thing 108 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: that's gotten better? And God, if you say, well, the 109 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: models have improved a bit, who fucking cares? What does 110 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: that do for you? In a practical sense? What exactly 111 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: has been done between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty 112 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: five that actually matters? What they fucking do? Chat GPT's 113 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: got a lot of free users. Well, some people use 114 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: it for codes, some people use it and feel deeply 115 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: buried mental health symptoms activate it. Some people use it 116 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: for search. This is where we're at, and this is 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: where we've been, and honestly, this is where we're always 118 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: going to be. Why exactly the big tech spender eighty 119 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: billion dollars in capital expenditures in the last quarter. What's 120 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: the point, why not sink some of that capex into 121 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: making your products better or your users happier. Why not 122 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: make your products work properly? And again, perhaps that's just 123 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: impossible for generative AI. Perhaps that's what co Pilot and 124 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Gemini do. Maybe they just fuck stuff up. Maybe they're 125 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: meant to only half work great, they get to lose money, 126 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: their customers hate it. It's a real win win scenario. 127 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: And look, while open ai may claim to be building 128 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: the future, it's clear what they want to do is 129 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: continue the existence of the state quo, of those that 130 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: finance the status quo making money off of it, of 131 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: those that herald the status quot's latest ideas getting the clicks, 132 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: that continue the valley's rotten cycle of allowing companies to 133 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: consume as much venture capital as they want until they 134 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: can cash out. I think they've kind of given up 135 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: on the thing where it's like, oh, we make something 136 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: useful and sell it because it's good. Open aiy is 137 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: not interested in innovation. They want to be a social network, 138 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: a consumer tech startup, as software as a service company, 139 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: a business productivity company, or whatever form will make the 140 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: company grow as because they want even if said growth 141 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: is deeply unprofitable. All that matters is that it grows. 142 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: It's cancerous, it's depressing. It's frustrating when you meet people 143 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: who they can't help but go to bat for this 144 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: stuff that they claim it's amazing, but their justifications are flimsy, 145 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: and they get mad at you. They get so mad 146 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: at you for trying to burst that bubble, for trying 147 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: to make them talk in practical terms, because AI does 148 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: something to everyone that loves it. Sure that there are 149 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: some people, there are definitely some people that can use 150 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: it healthily. Fine, but I believe something about this product 151 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: because it makes you to make it do anything useful, 152 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: put in so much effort to gaslight yourself into believing 153 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: it's good that you simply must defend it, because if 154 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: you don't defend it, you have to admit that the 155 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: software is training you, not the other way around. And 156 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: the most vociferous boosters are so deeply deeply in the hole, 157 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: dig up stupid that they can't help but defend it. 158 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: They can't help but attack those who not defend AI 159 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: that they can't help but claim that the mediocre is 160 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: amazing and that the future will come from stuff that sucks. Shit, 161 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: and that's where we are right now. And in times 162 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: like this, it's easy to feel defeated and even easier 163 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: to feel depleted, but I encourage you to focus on 164 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: one thing, solidarity the news. May you think that darkness 165 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: is a monolith, that there are few people that feel 166 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: like you do, but they do, and they are everywhere. 167 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: They are your friends, your family, and even the members 168 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: of the Better Offline subredding. If you feel dark or lonely, 169 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: or lost or ground down by everything, know that many 170 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: of us do too. You may feel terribly lonely, but 171 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: even in our mangled, broken into it, there is community everywhere, 172 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: and even if you may not believe it, people love 173 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: you and feel the way you do too. Reach out 174 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: to me easy at better offline dot com if you 175 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: have want to chat. I can't promise I can read 176 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: and respond to every single one, but I try to, 177 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: and the subreddit is there for you too, and I'm 178 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: on there too. It may feel like the forces against 179 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: us are all powerful, but they are not. They're committed 180 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: to burning billions of dollars only because they know that 181 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: the second that they stop, the bubble will pop and 182 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: they will be revealed as the directionless Charlatans they've always been. 183 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: I believe now that every dollar spent on GPUs will 184 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: ultimately be a waste, as I can find no compelling 185 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: evidence that it's possible to make margin on them before 186 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: they die in what the four to six years that 187 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: they actually have any value, And I believe all of 188 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: you will feel vindicated in time. It will be much 189 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: easier to weather the difficult times we're in with friends 190 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: and allies, and even more fun to celebrate victory with company. 191 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: It's easy to give up. It's easy to feel discouraged 192 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: in the face of adversity, to feel separated from others, 193 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: to believe that isolation and turning inward is the only response. 194 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: But I want you to feel emboldened by sorrow, to 195 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: seek the comfort and energy of others, to make friends, 196 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: to break bread, to build solidarity, and realize that you're 197 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: never alone and will never be alone. You may feel 198 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: like backing down, that the pressure against you by powerful 199 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: forces is too much, and I tell you that it isn't, 200 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: and that the only reason that pressure exists is because 201 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: they fear and may even know that you are right. 202 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to this show, for giving me 203 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: your time, for giving me your patience and attention, I 204 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: deeply appreciate your kindness and support. Tomorrow I'm going to 205 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: put out a really important premium newsletter about how GPUs 206 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: may never be profitable, and the next week, believe it 207 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: or not, I may have something even better ago. In 208 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: any case, I could not ask a better listeners. Thank 209 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: you again,