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Speaker 1: Mmmm. Welcome to the State of the Lakers show on

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Speaker 1: DASH Radio. Today is Thursday, and we are coming to

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Speaker 1: you after yet another Lakers preseason blowout. UM. So, of course,

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Speaker 1: naturally there was a good amount of panic from people

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Speaker 1: that were thinking that the Lakers were trying to win

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Speaker 1: yesterday rather than just play some basketball. But that's the

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Speaker 1: natural experience of being a fan, and Rog and I

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Speaker 1: are here today to help sort that out. First of all, Rog,

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Speaker 1: how you go, How you doing? How's your week going

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Speaker 1: so far? Going great? Beautiful Thursday morning? Yeah? Trade everyone? Right?

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Speaker 1: Is that the is that the vibe of of this Um,

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Speaker 1: Lincoln made every mistake possible of this offseason, right, Let's

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Speaker 1: just trade everyone. So that's a vibe at least. It's

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Speaker 1: it's funny not watching a game live because everything just

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Speaker 1: feels double, like on the timeline when you try to

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Speaker 1: follow a game through tweets, Um, everything just feels double,

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Speaker 1: you know, So it's it's crazy to rewatch it. But

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Speaker 1: I'm good man, how are you on this morning? I'm

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Speaker 1: doing well. I'm getting ready to go out of town

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Speaker 1: tomorrow up to Press Scott, which is basically a place

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Speaker 1: in northern Arizona where it's a little cooler, so it's

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Speaker 1: a place where people go to escape the heats. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. But yeah, dude, it's funny because

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Speaker 1: I think it's just when you go back and look

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Speaker 1: through tweets sometimes too, you can't, uh, you don't remember

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Speaker 1: where in the game they were referencing. So sometimes, like

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Speaker 1: it's just kind of funny to see the reactions. But

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Speaker 1: you know, to me, I think you and I have

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Speaker 1: harped on this like seventeen times in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. But the point of the preseason is not

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Speaker 1: to win basketball games. The point of the preseason is

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Speaker 1: to get reps for specific guys, specific lineups, and things

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Speaker 1: along those lines. Also, I do believe that some of

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Speaker 1: this is just part of what the NBA makes these teams,

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Speaker 1: do you know, Like I I bet you if it

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Speaker 1: were up to Frank, knowing that he had no forwards

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Speaker 1: available in the last week because of the Auresa injury

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Speaker 1: and because of the fact that he didn't want Lebron

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Speaker 1: to play, I I would imagine that, like, if it

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Speaker 1: were up to him, he wouldn't even have played a game.

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Speaker 1: He would have just had more practice reps for these guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, so I wouldn't overthink it too much. Plus,

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Speaker 1: you and I were clearly devastatingly wrong about DeAndre Jordan

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Speaker 1: because of his ugly preseason performance yesterday. That we will

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Speaker 1: discuss later. Anyway, today, we're going to talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about last night's game, just kind of overarching what

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Speaker 1: we thought. Then we're going to talk about the the

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Speaker 1: Trevor Areasa injury, what it means, what we think the

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Speaker 1: Lakers should do, how big of a deal it is, uh,

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Speaker 1: And then we're gonna do a deep dive into a

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Speaker 1: couple of the players that played in that game, specifically Carmelo,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Taylor, Norton Tucker, and then uh, Malik Monk and

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Speaker 1: a little bit of Anthony Davis is too. He deserves

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Speaker 1: the in the first game. Um, but you know too.

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Speaker 1: Overarching about the preseason game yesterday, the first thing that

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Speaker 1: stood out to me is something that you and I

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Speaker 1: talked about in the Tuesday pod, which is when you

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Speaker 1: you know the Lakers have some defensive liabilities at the

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Speaker 1: guard position, that's to be you know that that's you

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Speaker 1: can just jump to that conclusion. However, you know, they

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Speaker 1: were never brought on board to all play together. That

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Speaker 1: was never the point, you know, they they didn't bring

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Speaker 1: Yet by virtue of what's happened in the preseason, because

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Speaker 1: Lebron isn't playing, because Russell Westbrook isn't playing, they've had

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Speaker 1: to play them all. And so what you're seeing is,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say, not a real basketball team,

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Speaker 1: just not what the Lakers are are intending to to

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Speaker 1: put on the court this year, okay. And so from

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Speaker 1: that standpoint, you know, it's it's kind of naturally gonna

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Speaker 1: lead to some ugly I saar basketball. Okay, So you

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Speaker 1: need to pay attention to what they do individually and

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Speaker 1: not what the team accomplishes in those in its As

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Speaker 1: things progress, a lot of these minutes are going to

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Speaker 1: be taken up by Russ, A lot of these minutes

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about it too much. And just in general,

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Speaker 1: But they're never gonna play lineups like that, so I

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Speaker 1: that played the played against US. Phoenix is a well

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Speaker 1: oiled machine, like even without even without having Devin Booker,

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Speaker 1: they know exactly what they want to run, right, and

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Speaker 1: they brought back I think their team of their seventeen

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Speaker 1: Paul knows everyone's tendencies. They just and they played most

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Speaker 1: first I want to start there. They look good, they

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Speaker 1: as well, and I was expected right, and the Lakers

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Speaker 1: they don't have their star creation on there. So that

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Speaker 1: was my overarching theme. Like to me, like judging any

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Speaker 1: but judging without the two guys who are going to

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Speaker 1: really tough for me to look at these games. So

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Speaker 1: I look at more kind of kind of in a

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Speaker 1: little bit better. Game was closed in that first quarter,

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Speaker 1: They look like they're just continuing on from last year. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: they had that, like we went to the finals confidence

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Speaker 1: You could tell mckele Bridges is very comfortable in himself.

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Speaker 1: So that's my kind of overacching team on this Phoenix

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Speaker 1: but other than that, he kind of takes distance from

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Speaker 1: you know, mental health, especially with how much stress he

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Speaker 1: kind of been like that in his career too. He's

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Speaker 1: And I was just blown away by how polished and

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Speaker 1: As far as the you know, good Sons goes um.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a when you look at those lineups

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Speaker 1: In a big part of that I thought was Anthony Davis,

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Speaker 1: the fact that Anthony Davis is the best defensive player

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Speaker 1: two more to talk about with Anthony Davis, and we're

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Speaker 1: he does not look comfortable offensively at all. In fact,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't really looked comfortable offensively since the bubble, UH

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Speaker 1: in terms of a consistent like night in and night out,

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Speaker 1: what I what I was calling it yesterday while I

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Speaker 1: cares on that end, it just makes everything easier, and

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Speaker 1: it makes all the jobs for all the players on

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Speaker 1: the floor easier. The reason why the Lakers defense looks

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Speaker 1: so terrible yesterday overall is what you were asking those

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Speaker 1: of the Laker defense wasn't really all there. You know

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Speaker 1: joke if Dwight Howard and Lebron James and Trevor He'sa

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Speaker 1: and Russell Westbrook are all out for the season, then

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Speaker 1: you can count on the fact that the Lakers aren't

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Speaker 1: winning the title. And that's the truth that's the that

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Speaker 1: that is the reality of of any basketball team. If

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Speaker 1: but you're lesser players while all your better players are

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see what the Laker defense looks

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Speaker 1: like with Anthony Davis healthy, healthy and trying with Lebron

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Speaker 1: I thought he was consistently kind of forcing things, and

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Speaker 1: I think that it was part of the reason why

431
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 1: he uh couldn't get into rhythm with with his shot,

432
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,920
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of everything seemed forced and out

433
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 1: of the flow. Um. There was a play with Malik Monk,

434
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 1: and for the record, I thought Malik Monk was awesome

435
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk more about him later, but that

436
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 1: kind of captures exactly what you're talking about he uh

437
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,120
Speaker 1: was running a side pick and roll in the first

438
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 1: half with Anthony Davis. Is one of his first possessions.

439
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 1: When he checked in the game and Anthony Davis sets

440
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 1: the screen and then he pops to the three point line.

441
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 1: And when he pops to the three point line, Monk

442
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 1: comes off the screen, and the big and the guard

443
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 1: both stay with Monk and he kind of takes like

444
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: a contested, like seventeen foot elevating jump shot along the baseline.

445
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 1: And immediately, what I thought to myself was Monk came

446
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 1: into that pick and roll thinking I'm shooting a jump

447
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: shot off the dribble going left, like he telegraphed the

448
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 1: hell out of it, because he certainly wasn't making a

449
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 1: read because it wasn't open, And if you actually watched

450
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 1: the play, all he had to do was kind of

451
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: pick up his dribble, reverse pivot drop it back to

452
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis for a wide open three point shot. That

453
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 1: that's what you would do if you were making a read,

454
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Speaker 1: rather than uh kind of preconceiving what you were gonna do.

455
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: And again I'm not I I don't want to harp on

456
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Speaker 1: Monk because he did so much good in that game,

457
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk more about it, but that's

458
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 1: kind of exactly what I'm talking about. And when Lebron

459
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: and Russ are in the game, they both think the

460
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: game at least through the perspective of of constantly being

461
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: a air of of what kind of easy reads are available,

462
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: and I do think that that's going to make everything

463
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 1: look better around the floor. Now with Malik Monk, I

464
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: think he's separating himself offensively from the other guys in

465
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Speaker 1: the group. Um. I do think Kendrick Nunn is gonna

466
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: have his moments, Like he hasn't really found his jump

467
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: shot yet since he came UH to the Lakers, and

468
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 1: he had a really good jump shooting season last year

469
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: on a pretty difficult shot profile. So I do think

470
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Speaker 1: that he's going to have his moments. But it's very

471
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Speaker 1: clear that like Kendrick Nunn is more of a guy

472
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Speaker 1: who can make shots, and Malik Monk is more in

473
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Speaker 1: that like Ellington tier of like he's a shooter, like

474
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Speaker 1: like when he's open, it's it's easy for him, and

475
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: you could tell that that next level of touch is there.

476
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Speaker 1: And I also think he's a better ball handler UH

477
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Speaker 1: than Kendrick Nunn. There was a move in the second

478
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Speaker 1: half where he kind of hesitated off after coming off

479
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Speaker 1: a pick and roll, kind of looked up at the rim,

480
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: got the big head that I think it was JaVale

481
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 1: McGee kind of just kind of just barely got out

482
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: of his defensive stance and then he squeaked right by

483
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: him and put it high off the glass and made it.

484
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, that is a super advanced dribble

485
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: combination that he put together to get into the rim.

486
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: And like I think his combination of athleticism. He's actually

487
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: a tiny bit taller than Kendrick Gunn. It looks like

488
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: about an inch taller, and that that high level ball

489
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: handling and that elite shooting really translates to being a

490
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: significantly better offensive player than some of these other options. Now,

491
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: the defensive end is a whole other side of this.

492
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Speaker 1: But I think early on here, kind of like Frank

493
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: was talking about, camp Baysmore separated himself as a defensive player.

494
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: I think Malik Monk has separated himself from the pack

495
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: as an offensive player. Does that make sense, Yeah, for sure.

496
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Speaker 1: And it's funny how like one game can kind of

497
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: just change a whole view on a player, Like I

498
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Speaker 1: love that play that you talked about with the where

499
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Speaker 1: he's running a screen world with a D right and

500
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Speaker 1: like he didn't kick it out to him. He was

501
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: feeling himself, right, this was his first touch of the game,

502
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: like first touch of the game, screen world a D

503
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: step back jumper, And while watching it, I'm just like, oh, yeah,

504
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: of course he should shoot that. Of course he shoot

505
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: it's because of just the one game in preseason. Um,

506
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: but yeah, I forgot like when he came out of college.

507
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: I believe he came in as a shooter, right, I

508
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: think like he came into the league as a shooter

509
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: and then he showed a little bit more off the

510
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: dribble stuff. But yeah, like him coming off that he

511
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: had he had one player I think it was his

512
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: first three came off like I think a little bit

513
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: of a down screen or something curled, smooth, looked absolutely smooth,

514
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: went up really smooth and hit the three. And then

515
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: like he used that threat to kind of get to

516
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: the rim. You talked about the off the off the

517
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: glass shot that he had, Um, he had one where

518
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: he was in transition, just a little bit of in

519
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: and out dribble right by Cam Johnson right to the

520
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: rim as well. He's just just a score man. Like

521
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: he reminds me a little bit of like Lou Williams,

522
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: like a little bit of that kind of type. Maybe

523
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: not the veteraness of Lou Williams, but like just that

524
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 1: game where he can shoot off the dribble, get to

525
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: the basket, and like his ball handling I think opens

526
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: things up as well. Um, it's just cool to see

527
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: him get more and more comfortable. And you're right, he's

528
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: probably in the lead right now. Honestly, how Wayne Ellington

529
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: would be a little bit better, But again, I think

530
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 1: he suffers the most along with bays Moore, of not

531
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: playing with these stars shock treators, because I think that's

532
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: where he's at his best. Uh and playing with Rondo

533
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: as well. But I'm excited to see him leak next

534
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: to Lebron and Russ if he can still have that

535
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: kind of same uh impact. And this spot up threes

536
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: are good too, Like he's running to the corners one

537
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: derable step up three. I think he's like I forgot

538
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: what the number said, but he's shooting like a super

539
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: crazy percentage from three in the first two games and

540
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: oh yeah, six for ten or something like that. His

541
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: jumber looks clean, though, You're right. When you watch him

542
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: shoots some guys, you're like, yeah, he, like Kendrick Nunn,

543
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: seems like such a streaky shooter right the way he shoots,

544
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: it just feels like it's all rhythm. Like it's kind

545
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: of like if he's going that night, it's going in.

546
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: If not, then it's gonna be ugly. Linke Mud looks

547
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: like I have a really pretty shot. I know it's

548
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: going in every time. So you're right, Yeah, you're right.

549
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: He he looks like in the league right now in

550
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: the guard rotation, and it'll be interesting because uh, I

551
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: think he fits best coming off the bench. I don't

552
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: expect him to start like what but but you gotta

553
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: kind of again, like when you're building a closing lineup,

554
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: you need it to be your best five guys because

555
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: that's what you're trying to win the game with. Um. However,

556
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: over the course of a full basketball game, it's kind

557
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: of like a you need a factor in the diminishing returns, right,

558
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: Like if I put Molik Monk out there with Russ

559
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: and Lebron all the time, that's a diminishing return because

560
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: his ball handling is less valuable when he doesn't have

561
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. Right, So like a guy

562
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: like Ellington, in my opinion, through through the through the

563
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: run of the regular season, in all of these random

564
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: shifts at random points in the game, I like Ellington

565
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: with the three stars, and I like Monk when stars

566
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Speaker 1: are are being spelled for stretches on the bench, if

567
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: that makes sense. As a matter of fact, with the

568
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: Areza injury, I think Ellington is almost a shoe in

569
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Speaker 1: to start, and I think you're gonna end up seeing Baysmore,

570
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: the guy everybody wanted to start instead of Ellington. I

571
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see him in the games where a

572
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: starts at the five, which may not and we'll get

573
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: to that in a second. But if a d starts

574
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Speaker 1: at five, I think you're gonna see a lot of

575
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Speaker 1: bays More at the three in Ellington at the two.

576
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: But you bring in Monk with those bench lineups, and

577
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: now his ball handling becomes all that more valuable. Um,

578
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about Mellow for a second, because I thought

579
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Speaker 1: I thought it was an interesting game from him in

580
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. First of all, he actually defended

581
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: okay in the in the first stint that he had.

582
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: There was one transition play I think it was in

583
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: his second stint where he had a really bad clothes

584
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: It was a mismatch for Rondo I don't think got

585
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: back to his man properly, and then Mellow got confused

586
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: and then he closed out. But then he did this

587
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: super Jankee close out to Chase mcail bridges off the

588
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: line where he basically reached at a ball that wasn't

589
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: even there and just gave him a lay up. That's

590
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: classic Mellow type stuff that he's gonna have to cut out.

591
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: But I thought it was a really interesting game from

592
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: Mellow in the sense that it captured the good and

593
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: the bad because he had a couple of plays where

594
00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: he got post ups against um smaller guards and got

595
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: really good looks. There was one where he kind of

596
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: did a drop step on on Chris Paul and got

597
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: that layup, and then there was another one I can't

598
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: remember who. I think it might have been Campaign that

599
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: he got on a switch but he shot like a

600
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: little turnaround jumper jumper and it looked really easy. But

601
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: then when he tried to post up the wings, like

602
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: when he tried to post up Jay Crowder or Michael

603
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: Bridges or Cam Johnson. You could tell there was that

604
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: he kept trying to take that fade away and he

605
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: tried to shoot that little bank shot and it was

606
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: like way off. And I think it's a really interesting

607
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: thing to kind of keep an eye on this season

608
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: because I love Carmelo Anthony attacking smaller guards in these

609
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: post ups because it just his size is such a

610
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: problem that that he gets great lift and the guys

611
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: bounce off of him and he gets a great look

612
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: at the rim. But these other these wings at this

613
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: stage in his career, they bump him off of his

614
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: spot when he when he tries to do that power

615
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: dribble before he goes into his fade away, he loses

616
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: all of his balance because they win that physical matchup,

617
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: and now he's taking a fade away where he's off

618
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: balance and it's not close. And so that's the kind

619
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: of thing that i'd be Now. The last night's game

620
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: is different because they needed him to shoot more because

621
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: of the guys that we're playing, So obviously I don't

622
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: want to judge him in that respect, but it's something

623
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on in the regular season when

624
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: the guys are healthy, Mellow's shot selection in specific matchups

625
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: and remembering that at this stage in his career, he's

626
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: not going to be able to win, you know, kind

627
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: of an even matchup in terms of size on the block,

628
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Yeah, for sure. I'm not saying

629
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: you're doing this, but I've seen this a lot online,

630
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: like people um saying, like, you know, who's Mellow gonna defend? Like, uh,

631
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: is Mellow gonna be able to stay in front of

632
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: these young guards? And to me, it's like if I

633
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: are if I hire a chef and I tell that

634
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: chef to like fix my air conditioning, Like the hell,

635
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: like what are you? What are you talking about? Like

636
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: not here to fixture regie a chef, melows there to

637
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: cook and score like that. That's what Melos in the

638
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: game for. Like expecting him to be like some huge

639
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: defensive kind of huge defensive impact players just not realist.

640
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: To me, he's at a score and I think he

641
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: still can do that. We saw some like where eight

642
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: s at the top right, because to me, I think

643
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: Melo is gonna play a lot where eights at the five.

644
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's where he's gonna play, and I

645
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: thought that lineup looked actually okay, even like defensively it

646
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: looked fine to me. With Melow at the four, he

647
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: saw eight kind of feed Mellow in the post, right,

648
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: and it's kind of harder double off that, and that

649
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: they were doing some cool stuff um off the ball

650
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: as well sending some pin screens which he missed a couple.

651
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: He's Karmelo Anthony like once once you give him the ball,

652
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: it's like that's a license for me to do what

653
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: I what I do, Uh, his license for me to

654
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: do what I do. So I think he can still

655
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: get buckets in that way, and so on the Blazers.

656
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: First year on the Blazers, he played thirty three minutes

657
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: a game, which is high, right, Second year twenty five

658
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: minutes a game, which I mean, Karmelo Anthony, twenty five

659
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: minutes still seems a little high. I want to see

660
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: what Mellow looks like in like a fifteen to like

661
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: e t minute role, right, like where it's just pure buckets,

662
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: Like there's not that's my job. I don't have to

663
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: do all these help responsibly. Like my job is to

664
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: come in and get buckets. And he's a guy that

665
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: gets you a shot, right, I think we undervalue how

666
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: tough it is to even just get a shot in

667
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: the NBA. You know what I'm like, just be able

668
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: to create your own shot, Like have a guy you

669
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: can give the ball to him, be like, hey, get

670
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: us a get us a look that has a chance

671
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: to go in. And I think that's a skill that's

672
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: necessary on at least second unit. So I liked him

673
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: with a D. I think that's where we'll see him.

674
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't really want to see him next to like

675
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: Jandre Jordan's where they're the only two back line players

676
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: that that line I've got killed last night. And we'll

677
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: talk about DJ later, I'm sure, but but yeah, that

678
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: lineup got killed as it should. Like those are two

679
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: dudes who know exactly how many stakes are on preseason.

680
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: I'll give you a secret, there are zero steaks and

681
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: pree season. So and they both know that they've been

682
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: a league a very long time. So I liked what

683
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: I saw from Mellow And again you talked about it earlier,

684
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: like you're not looking at the scoreboard in these preseason games,

685
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: just kind of looking at what players can do and

686
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: what skill sets they can kind of bring to different lineups.

687
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: They'll have the star players that can kind of take

688
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: take care of the other stuff. So I thought Mellow looked, fine, Um,

689
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: he's not going to have a huge minute role, I

690
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: don't think this year. But I want to see him

691
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: in that fifteen minute role. Man, can he be two thousand,

692
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: fifteen Melow in fourteen minutes? He can't do that. In

693
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, he can't. I'm not even sure he can

694
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: do that. But fifteen minutes a game, five or six

695
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: minutes at five or six minutes every half, I think

696
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: he can do that. I don't think you're you need

697
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: to ask him to do much defensively, as long as

698
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 1: the lineup around him is is kind of built, you know,

699
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: built in a way that makes his responsibilities easy. Like

700
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: you said, don't play him with DJ, don't play with

701
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: Dwight playing with a D. You know, make it so

702
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: that the aggregate defensive talent around him is good so

703
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: that his job is easy. I'll give you an example

704
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: on that transition play where he where he reached on

705
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: Michael Bridges and Michael got the easy layup. You know,

706
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: it's like I'm sure Frank did say this to him,

707
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: but it's like, Okay, that's a breakdown. It is a

708
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: defensive breakdown in transition that you guys weren't matched up

709
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: so you had to do this crazy clothes out. But

710
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: you have one job at that point. Just make him

711
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: take a jumper. I don't care if it's even a

712
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: wide open three. Uh, just anything other than this wide open,

713
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: easy right at the rim lay up with nobody around.

714
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: It was that that was where he messed up. He

715
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: did a good job of kind of chasing him off

716
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: the three point line, but then he reached. And if

717
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have reached, and if he would have just

718
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: kind of done a more conservative closed out to take

719
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: away the paint, you make Michail Bridges take you know,

720
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: a pull up fifteen footer or make him maybe he

721
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: just pulls it back out and then you reset into

722
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: a half court possession. That's kind of a much easier

723
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: responsibility than saying, hey, you know, your job is to

724
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, be this like super stout isolation defender or

725
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you're asking him to do. You

726
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: make it easy for him with the totality of the lineup.

727
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you as far as mellow goes.

728
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: I want him to cook. I want him to be aggressive.

729
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: I really like him as an isolation score. Just locate

730
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: the matchups, like make it a thing where it's like, hey,

731
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: we want to get Mellow a look, Maybe run a

732
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: Mellow a d pick and roll and see if you can't,

733
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: uh get a big, big, slow guy on him, or

734
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: or the opposite, like run a pick and roll with

735
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: Russ and get a switch so that he's on a

736
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: smaller guard, and then look for him in the post,

737
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: because I really like him as a post up score,

738
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: specifically against the smaller defenders and then really quickly lasting

739
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: on Mellow. I really like his spot up shooting in

740
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: the sense that he's tall, and he's got a really

741
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: quick release, and he's he's got this. It's actually it's

742
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: actually something that I copied from him a lot when

743
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: I was in college. He does a really good job

744
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: of hesitating right before his pull up, right before his

745
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: spot up threes to kind of lull the defender to sleep.

746
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you see this, but like he'll

747
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: catch the ball and he'll kind of hold it for

748
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: a split second and he'll act like he's not gonna

749
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: do anything, and then suddenly he'll elevate into his shot.

750
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: And the reason why I like that is like sometimes

751
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: and I joke about this, talked about this all time

752
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: in the pot. Sometimes there is no wide open three

753
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: on a possession. Sometimes the defense is locked in. Sometimes

754
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: they're rotating really well. Sometimes you're not gonna get the

755
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, the buttnake at three in the corner. It's

756
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be something a little tougher. And

757
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: sometimes it's mellows only a little bit open, but you

758
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: can swing it to him and he can do that

759
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: little hesitation that just barely lolls the closing out defender

760
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: to sleep, and then he can just elevate into the

761
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: shot and at least get a decent look at the rim.

762
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: And so I really like him as as a floor

763
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: spacer in that regard. So let's let's talk about this

764
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 1: a reason thing, because this is a big deal. Um.

765
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: I think you and I both had said multiple times

766
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: over the summer that we thought that they needed another wing. Uh,

767
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: not because they needed somebody in the rotation, but because

768
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: of depth. During the regular season, someone's gonna get hurt.

769
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: Maybe Lebron twist an ankle, maybe Mellow twists and ankle

770
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: here you go, Trevor Reasa gets hurt. So all it

771
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: really means, in my opinion, is that a reason is

772
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: now your wing that you're gonna add during the middle

773
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: of the season in the form of an injury recovery.

774
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: But now you need somebody now, and I have a

775
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: feel they're gonna look to sign somebody now. I don't

776
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: know if that's Wes Matthews or James Ennis, or if

777
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: they have somebody else in mind, but I think they

778
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: need to sign a wing now because that's now a

779
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: legitimate problem. And what I'm really concerned about because it's

780
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't think the a D at center thing is

781
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: just a D I think I think Frank Vogel has

782
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: a has a role in that as well. I think

783
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: he's so defensive minded that he's obsessed with size, he's

784
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: obsessed with rim protection, he's obsessed with rebounding, and I

785
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: don't even think he factors in as much the way

786
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: that that can impact the the overall flow of things

787
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: on the offensive end. I think this is gonna be

788
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: something they use as an excuse to play a lot

789
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: of DeAndre Jordan at the five next to Dwight, not

790
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: next to dwighte but in conjunction with Dwight and put

791
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: a lot of a d at the four because he's

792
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: gonna be like, hey, well, we needed a reason at

793
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: the three to make our overall totality or total physicality

794
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: of the whole lineup. Uh, you know, usable, So we're

795
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: gonna need to to play more centers. I'm really concerned

796
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: about that because again, even though you and I get

797
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: roasted for this all the time, like we liked DeAndre

798
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: Jordan in a very small role, like you had him

799
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: as like a two stint guy, kind of like Javail

800
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: and I had him, isn't like doesn't play and the

801
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: only time you would play is Dwight's resting tonight. Anthony

802
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: Davis is resting tonight. So this allows us to use

803
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: the same pick and roll coverages. This allows us to

804
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: stay in the same identity rather than here comes Paul millsap.

805
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: He can't protect the rim, so now we've got to

806
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: completely change all of our coverages and do all that

807
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. That's why I liked DeAndre Jordan's None

808
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: of us you and neither you or me anticipated that

809
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: he would get used to the extent that I expect

810
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: him to get used here in the next couple of

811
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: weeks with the reason out, and that's concerning to me.

812
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: Are you concerned at all? So first, I love that

813
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: we're the face of DeAndre jordan propaganda, Like I just

814
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: think that's absolutely hilarious, hilarious, even though we both said

815
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: he won't play when it matters is probably like the

816
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: twelve most important player on this team. Is there just

817
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: to be an an easy eater. But I love that

818
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: where the face of I'll rocket, that's cool. I don't

819
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: I go the other way on this. So I've have

820
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: heard I've heard this argument that like, oh, this just

821
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: means more DeAndre Jordan's and I love that. That's just

822
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: like a hell escape, right, any kind of issue comes up,

823
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: let's just throw it on DeAndre Jordan's plate. You know

824
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be the he'll be the scapegoat for this season.

825
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: I think this is an excuse to play more. The

826
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: fourth highest played player on this team, which is Taylan

827
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: Horn Tucker, I think he's gonna play a lot more.

828
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play at the three. He's played

829
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: the most minutes in preseason. I'm pretty sure I know

830
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: in the first game. It was the second game. I'm

831
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: pretty sure he he played the most. Maybe eight he

832
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: played a little bit more, but I feel like he

833
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: played the most minutes. I think they're been playing about

834
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: the three. I've liked what I've seen with him off

835
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: ball too. I don't know what you saw as well,

836
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: but he just seems he looks more comfortable with his

837
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: jump shot as well. His jump shot looks more stable,

838
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: it looks more repetitive. It looks like he can repeat

839
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: that action a lot more than it was last year.

840
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: His feet look a lot more. You could tell he

841
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: put in work to get his feet in rhythm. His

842
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: defense as well has looked fine to me, Like minutes.

843
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: I think this is an excuse to play more Tailor

844
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: Horn Tucker. Maybe DeAndre Jordan still starts. We'll see, but

845
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: that's where I'm at this with this. I think this

846
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: gives him an excuse to do even more THHD. He's

847
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: a guy they paid, there's a guy they invested in.

848
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: This guy who's shown some skills, some off ball skills,

849
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: and again I love him. As this secondary kind of

850
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: defense is broken down, give it to him, and he

851
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: has more off the ball. He's not as smart obviously

852
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: as a players forever reason yet he just don't have

853
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: the experience. But he's a better off the drible player.

854
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: He's a bigger threat attacking the rim. I thought his

855
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: like basketball, overall decision making is better, even if his

856
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: passings isn't great. He had a bunch of players where

857
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: like he noticed Eton wasn't in the paint and he

858
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: had Jay crowd on him. He just drove out to

859
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: the basket and Jay Crowder couldn't do anything about it.

860
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: He drew a foul I think on two of those.

861
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: So to me, that's where they go with this. What

862
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: do you think about that? Because that's where I went

863
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: first when I saw it, and then I see online

864
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: everyone jumping right to that Frank's gonna do what he

865
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: wants now, and it's just like, well maybe, but I

866
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: think I think this is more to uh more th

867
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: team minutes. What do you think? I do think it

868
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: leads to more th h T minutes. I don't think

869
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: it will necessarily be at the three, but I think

870
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: that's just semantics because you know it's wings, right, It's

871
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: just it's just wings, Like it'll be. I think you'll

872
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: see more th HD in bays more because you'll have

873
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: to now. So we talked about how you've got these

874
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: rust lebron A D minutes right, and they're all they're

875
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: each gonna play probably thirty two thirty three minutes a game,

876
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: So that kind of takes a huge chunk of the

877
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: rotation now, and then you've got, you know, how many

878
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: center minutes are going to be available and who's splitting them,

879
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: And then you've got how many you know, wing slash

880
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: guard minutes that are available and who's gonna take him. Well,

881
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 1: I thought a reason it was gonna play twenty plus

882
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: minutes a night. He was literally I was one of

883
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: the most optimistic Laker fans about the reason signing. I

884
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: thought he was such a clean fit. And if you

885
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: look at his his history, he's one of the players

886
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: that coaches lean on UH to play big minutes because

887
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: of how reliable he is in so many different ways

888
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: on the basketball team. Well, with him out of the picture,

889
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: that twenty something and it's is now available for everyone else,

890
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: So it's gonna naturally lead to more th h T minutes. Now.

891
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: I agree with you in the sense that you kind

892
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: of have to play th h T now and baysmore

893
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: a lot because that overall physical presence of the lineup

894
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: needs to hit a certain baseline. Uh Frank Frank Vogel.

895
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: For instance, somebody asked him in an interview yesterday after

896
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: practice or maybe it was before the game, I can't remember,

897
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: but they said, you know, hey, like, what is the

898
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: case for playing a D at the four? Basically, like,

899
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: if you had to come up with a downside for

900
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: playing a D at the five, what is it? And

901
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: he said rebounding? And and I disagree with him because

902
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Lebron and a D are probably the second biggest front

903
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: court in the league behind brook Lopez and Janice right,

904
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: So like I don't think that that's and then Russ

905
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: is the best rebounding guard probably of all time. So

906
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: I disagree with that line of thinking. However, he's what

907
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: he's getting at, even though I think he's wrong. What

908
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: he's getting at is like, we need a certain baseline

909
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: of physicality and athleticism and size in the lineup, and

910
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: if we dip below that baseline, you're gonna have a

911
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: lot of games like yesterday where the Phoenix Suns just

912
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: physically mall you, or like the first game where even

913
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets, who are not a physically imposing team.

914
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: Physically mall you you need to hit that baseline. So

915
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: if a reasons out your six eight guy who can

916
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: guard multiple positions and rebound really well, especially on the

917
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: defensive end, and he uh can play five minutes a night,

918
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: take that guy out. That we're moving closer to the baseline.

919
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: So the way to counteract that is more th ht

920
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: and more base more you're bigger of the guards, you know,

921
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: like you're Whereas if a reason was playing twenty five

922
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: minutes a night, you might lean more towards none in Ellington,

923
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: in Monk because you can get away with playing a

924
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: little bit less size, a little bit less athleticism. So

925
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the interesting thing to keep an eye.

926
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you that they're gonna have to play

927
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: T H T more. I just think the obvious answer

928
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: here is the guy I've been clamoring for all summer

929
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: and a guy that you like to and that's Wesley Matthews.

930
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: He's a little bit undersized, but he's so strong and

931
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: he's so laterally quick that he defends guards pretty well.

932
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: And then he's just the definition of a professional basketball player.

933
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: Like the dude just every night, does his job, does

934
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: the shot going all the time? Know, as a matter

935
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: of fact, it's it's missed a lot of the time.

936
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: But the point is is like he's kind of like

937
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: a shorter version of a reason if you think about

938
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: it in a lot of ways, and what you can

939
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: expect him to do. And so I think that I

940
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: think that's a route that they should go. I'm really

941
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: interested to see what Rob does in the next couple

942
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: of days. I would I would assume we'll hear something today.

943
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah, And like to me, I

944
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: don't predict them to add another wing, Like I think

945
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: they're just gonna try to. They have a roster, like

946
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: their team, guys who they believe can play, right, Like,

947
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: that's what their belief is in this roster, other than

948
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, who actually looks nice. Like I like Austin

949
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: Reeves a lot. I don't think he will play obviously,

950
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: but I think he had a couple of while plays yesterday. Yeah,

951
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: like his cootback Q teams there and he doesn't look

952
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: scared on the floor, you know what I mean. He

953
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: looks like, he looks comfortable. He looks like he belongs

954
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: in the NBA, So that was cool to see. But also,

955
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: like Chandre Brown, I think I think he's a nice

956
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: like two way player. But yeah, Rob has been open

957
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: that he wants to keep that final roster spot open,

958
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: So I don't think they add someone. I think they

959
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: expect the reason back in eight weeks um, which I

960
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: think it probably puts him back. What it's October, somewhere

961
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: in December probably. I think he'll be patient with him.

962
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: I I think we'll see him mid January. I was

963
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: thinking about that today, like like it's a two month evaluation,

964
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: but theoretically they could evaluate him and then be like, Okay,

965
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: we need to rehab this another month, or maybe you

966
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: need you know, we're playing great, we're winning a lot

967
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: of games. No reason to rush you back. We need

968
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: you for the postseason. I would expect to see a

969
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 1: reason in January. That's just my guest. Yeah, for sure,

970
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: and again to me a reason again he could have started,

971
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: but that's a playoff signing. Like that's a guy who's

972
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: gonna make his bones in the playoffs. Same with like

973
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: Andrea Guadala in Golden State. Similar type of mold of player, right,

974
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: guy who knows what he is doing we can put

975
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: in sixteen game player versus eighty two game player. To me, right,

976
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: he's the guy who's thirty six years old, Like, you

977
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't be your prime one of your primary wing defenders,

978
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: even though he probably could have this year. Base Moore,

979
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: I think we'll have to get more minutes. Like and again,

980
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: like we talked about it, I just you just can't

981
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: share the floor with Non Ellington, Uh Non Ellington, who

982
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: else Bays Moore, Carmelo, Like that's just disaster defensive line

983
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: And no matter how many buckets Monk is getting off

984
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: the dribble, you know, like it's it's just a disaster

985
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: defensive lineup that I don't think we'll see. And and

986
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: I guess we can kind of move to DeAndre Jordan,

987
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to see DeAndre Jordan without Anthony

988
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: Davis on the floor, even how ugly the spacing looks, Like,

989
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: I just think that doesn't make any sense. And uh no,

990
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: Dwight playing yesterday as well kind of exasperated that issue

991
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: because we got we got a lot of it. I

992
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: think that's been pretty clear. And we've never said that

993
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: DeAndre should be the primary center on the floor. That

994
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: was never what we were going to, so, like, what

995
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: do you think of DeAndre Jordan? I guess, guys yesterday.

996
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: So this has been one of my biggest pet peeves

997
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: of the last uh a couple of years, kind of

998
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: getting into the whole Twitter experience and covering covering the league.

999
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: People take what you say out of context, you know, Like,

1000
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: and what what we said about DeAndre Jordan's was so

1001
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: was so clear to anybody who actually listened to the podcast.

1002
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: We were like, Hey, we don't really care about what

1003
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: what happened in Brooklyn because it's a completely different identity.

1004
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: Um that said, we know that the defensive front court

1005
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: is going to be built around Lebron, Anthony Davis, and

1006
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard, So this is kind of just a depth signing.

1007
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: And and what I said was what he can do

1008
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: in their drop coverage, which they is what they run

1009
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: with Dwight Howard. What they ran with Dwight Howard and

1010
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: Jeva McGee in was a drop coverage strictly in the

1011
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: drop coverage around good defensive players that actually care about defending,

1012
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: which is not what he had in Brooklyn. I think

1013
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: he can be a reasonable fac simile of Dwight Howard.

1014
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: That's that's all we said. That's literally all we said.

1015
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: And it turned into this thing like you and I

1016
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: saying that DeAndre Jordan's gonna be rejuvenated as this like

1017
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: modern uh defensive center with the Lakers, which is not

1018
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: at all, not at all what we were trying to say.

1019
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: And so what's funny is like, you know, I had

1020
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: I had somebody come to me yesterday, and I'm sure

1021
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: you saw something as well, basically saying, you know, are

1022
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: you ready to admit you were wrong about Deandrew Jordan. No, no,

1023
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to admit I'm wrong about DeAndre Jordans

1024
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: because even if I was flay writtenly wrong, like even

1025
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: if like even in the best defensive lineups with the

1026
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: Lakers this year, he was just an absolute disaster, it

1027
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: would be in the regular season that I would admit that.

1028
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: Never in a million years would you get me in

1029
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: a fake basketball game to come on here and be like, hay,

1030
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: you guys got me like DeAndre Jordan's with with three

1031
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: twigs at guard, couldn't couldn't defend the rim like I would.

1032
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: I would never say that, that's just that's that's what

1033
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: because it was so funny to me. But as far

1034
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: as DeAndre Jordans goes like like he is, he is

1035
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: a limited defensive player unless you can kind of focus

1036
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: what he does into one specific thing, which is strictly

1037
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: a drop coverage big around other good defensive players so

1038
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have to cover a ton of ground,

1039
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: so that he does like like he was guarding picking

1040
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: rolls yesterday with guys who were dying on screens, like

1041
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: of course he's gonna get picked apart, Like of course

1042
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: he's going to get picked apart, you know, but within

1043
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: if it if that's Lebron on the back line, if

1044
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: it's a reason helping, if it's Russ chasing over the top,

1045
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: his job becomes easier. And I do think I don't

1046
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be an all defense guy. I don't

1047
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: even think he's gonna necessarily be a positive defender. But

1048
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: I think he'll be able to hold his ground as

1049
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: a reasonable fac simile of Dwight. I don't think that's

1050
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: an outlandish prediction. Am I am I crazy now? And again,

1051
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: like last night watching the game, like he definitely was

1052
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: in this, like I know it's preseason, and again, DeAndre

1053
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Jordan's in year fifteen or whatever he is. He knows

1054
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: how many stakes are in preseason, and it was there

1055
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: were some funny moments where Rondo was like, come on, man,

1056
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: like you gotta you gotta move and DJ look back

1057
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: at Rondo like what are you talking about? Like this

1058
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: is preseason game number two, So he's not gonna be

1059
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: a great defender. And to me, he's always just been

1060
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: this inning seater, right just to give a d upbreak

1061
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: at the five, when Dwight Howard is not playing, Like

1062
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: that's a specialized role to me, and maybe he's not

1063
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: even good at that, Like maybe I'm wrong in there,

1064
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: But that's that's the idea that Polinka hired him for.

1065
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: That's the idea of Ogels going for. That's the idea

1066
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: that a d he recruited him for. Like all these

1067
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: guys obviously believe that there's something there that he can do.

1068
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: And again, you're right, it's just a pure drop coverage.

1069
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: These guards that can can pull up off the dribble

1070
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: in mid range, they're gonna they're gonna be able to

1071
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: score on him, Like that's just that's just how it is.

1072
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: They were able to score on Javl. To go watch

1073
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: you know c J McCollum against US. Go watch Damian

1074
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: Lillard against US the last year. Go watch any of

1075
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: these guards who can pull off the dribble. They destroyed

1076
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: drop coverages. That's the point of these That's why these

1077
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: cars average twenty five or thirty points a game, because

1078
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: these biggs can't stop them. So like, to me, expecting

1079
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: DJ to stop guys is unrealistic. Like all I want

1080
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: him to do is box out, rebound, block a few

1081
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: shots here, catch a few values. That's it. That's it,

1082
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: in like ten minutes a game, I think he can

1083
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: reasonably do that. I'm not even acting. I'm not even

1084
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: asking him to be Dwight Howard. Why Howard comes in

1085
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: super energy guy, guy who lights up the whole team, energy,

1086
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: bunny officer and rebounding um, attacking the rim aggressively, Like,

1087
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: I'm not even asking him to do that. So if

1088
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: you can't do that, he won't play. Like that's that's

1089
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: all there is to it. And they've talked about more

1090
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: a D at the five. You have a D at

1091
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: the five, Dwight center minutes and whatever is left in there,

1092
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: throw them to DeAndre Jordan's uh in a forty a

1093
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: minute game. That's all I'm saying with that he didn't

1094
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: look great these first two Breezes games. We can be

1095
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: honest about that. He didn't look great like that, and

1096
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: that's fine. The whole team doesn't look the whole exactly.

1097
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: Whole team doesn't look like there's a lot of people

1098
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: getting their ask that's what's happening, very true, Yeah, a

1099
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: lot of people missing defensive assignments, you know, So just

1100
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: to just blame it on him as very's very strange

1101
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: to me. And and again, he's part of this whole

1102
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: totality of not looking great and that's fine, we can

1103
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: say that. But you know, there's still four more of

1104
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: these exhibition games left before we even touch an actual,

1105
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: real effect simily of a game. So I want to

1106
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: wait and see till then. Um, for now, we'll wait.

1107
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: And again, I want to see him with our primary

1108
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: shot creators, like playing with Kendrick Nunn, trying to feed

1109
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: him like while driving, trying to throw it to him

1110
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: on the bounce in traffic. Like it's just weird watching

1111
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: watching him play with those guys. So I want to

1112
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: see him with the real team, and I think he'll

1113
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: get his shot. The last thing I'll say about DeAndre

1114
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: Jordan's is that, you know, for the people who want

1115
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: to take a victory lap, if he ends up starting

1116
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: every game and playing eighteen nineteen minutes as a center

1117
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: every game and being one of the defensive anchors of

1118
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: the team, there's a chance that could get ugly because

1119
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: that's never what we thought he would end up being.

1120
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: And if you want to, I'll tell you what. If

1121
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: you want to circle around and take victory laps against

1122
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: us at that point ahead, we'll take it. But because

1123
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna know deep down that's never what

1124
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: we intended, what we thought was intended for that specific signing. UM.

1125
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to say we've got about

1126
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: three minutes. The last thing I wanted you and I

1127
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: too quickly talk about before we get out of here

1128
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: is one of the ramifications of the Aresa injury is

1129
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: just how how much more important it is early in

1130
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: the season for russ lebron in a d to be healthy. Um.

1131
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: That margin for error has shrunk considerably now with the

1132
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: Aresa injury, because in a lot of ways, with the

1133
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: signings that they made, the physical, you know, drive of

1134
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: the team is so much more tied up in the

1135
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: Stars than it was in previous years. In previous years

1136
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: because of what you know, k CP was as a stout,

1137
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: you know, extra perimeter defender because of Dennis Shorter, because

1138
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: Andre Drummond, all those things, the it was a little

1139
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: bit less dependent on Lebron and a D. So when

1140
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: they got hurt, they were able to continue to defend

1141
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: at a really high level this season, So much of

1142
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: that athleticism and strength and size is tied up in

1143
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: Lebron Russian a D. And now with the Reason out,

1144
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: it's so important early in the season for them to

1145
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: stay healthy and that's all about luck, and so it'll

1146
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: be really interesting to keep an eye on UM. But

1147
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: I think the Lakers would be more than fine getting

1148
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: through to January when I think a Reason will come back.

1149
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: As long as the core three guys stay healthy, I

1150
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: just think that will be something to keep an eye on.

1151
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah? I feel the same way,

1152
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: and like this team is going to go as those

1153
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: three guys go, Like and we're missing two thirds of them,

1154
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Started watching this game with

1155
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: like thirty three of the players that probably really matter

1156
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: in all of this UM and again like this stuff.

1157
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: To judge any of this without Russ is like I

1158
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: was thinking about this, adding Russ and Lebron to your teams,

1159
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: like adding six new players right like just in the

1160
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: terms of like the way your team runs. It's like

1161
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: you're you're adding an entired new dimension to how the

1162
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: team looks. Right now. You're going from th Ht running

1163
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: everything a ball screen to Lebron James and Russell Westbrook

1164
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: making all your decisions. Your whole team is gonna change.

1165
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: The whole way the floor looks, the way defensive guards you,

1166
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: the way UM teams have to scheme against you. Everything

1167
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: is different. Once those two guys are running the running

1168
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: the ball and you almost start over, which is kind

1169
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: of a funny way, which is kind of why I

1170
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: want them to play a little bit, and I wish

1171
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: they just played one quarter in that first game. But

1172
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: but yeah, like there're a whole new team when those

1173
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: two guys go around, And I think A d knows

1174
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: that too, Like you could tell just the way I

1175
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: know he's trying to get comfortable with these new guys

1176
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: and all that. But this team is gonna go through

1177
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: a toll new make makeover once Rust and Brown get

1178
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: on the floor. Everything changes, all the offense that they run,

1179
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 1: how much they're in transition. Right, we see Rondo pushed

1180
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: in the ball, Westbrook is like an super exaggerated version

1181
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: of that. You know what I mean. You're gonna see

1182
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: this team in transition even more, see his team run

1183
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: even more, shots come from different places. So, UM, I

1184
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: don't see those Thus get on the floor. Man. We

1185
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: have like four more games here, and I expect them

1186
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: to sit out that last one. But yeah, hopefully we

1187
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: get three games with them working on it and then

1188
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: we get the real thing. I think they'll play tomorrow

1189
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: night against Golden State. That will be an interesting one. Um.

1190
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 1: And and they've been absolutely destroyed on on the glass

1191
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: and so bringing Lebron and Russ in completely changes that equation. UM. Anyway,

1192
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: so I'm out of town this weekend. UH. We would

1193
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: like to get something recorded as a postgame show from

1194
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: the Warriors game, So maybe you and I could touch

1195
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: base about doing something on Sunday. We'll we'll figure that

1196
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: out after the show. But anyway, as always, we sincerely

1197
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: appreciate all your guys support. I'm having so much fun

1198
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: with this. I'm so glad the season is starting back

1199
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: up a little bit of drama, not real drama, but

1200
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of fake drama to kind of keep

1201
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: us held over until the season starts. But as always,

1202
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: like we said, we appreciate your guys support and we'll

1203
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: hope to have something recorded by Sunday. Thanks everyone,