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Today we are chatting with Jordan 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Reed from ESPN on the current states of the Vikings. 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: Phase two of organized team activities are in full swing, 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: and Jordan gives us his thoughts on how some of 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: the young guys will mesh with the veterans now that 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: things are starting to ramp up. We've got a fund 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: one today, so sit back and enjoy today's show. Well, 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: we are one day closer to the start of the 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: regular season as Phase two of organized team activities are underway. 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Minnesota Vikings Podcast, resents it by PEPSI. 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: My name is Gabe Henderson. I am alongside Jay Nelson. 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: Tatum Everett can't be here today, but our talented producer 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: Eric Davison joins us as always, and guys, we will 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: have Jordan Reid from ESPN join us later. But Jay, 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: before we get to that point, football season is slowly 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: starting to approach. The rookies are now practicing with the veterans. 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: The plays, they're like actual plays being ran and we 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: know there's still no contact between you know, offense and defense, 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: but the fact that the guys are out there running 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: and we were starting to see some plays and there's 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: a new refound energy when it comes to Minnesota Vikings football. 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts just on this new phase as 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: far as phase two of organized team activities. 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: It's the continued progression of feeling like we're getting closer 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: and closer to the twenty twenty four season. You know, 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: after this kind of stuff kicked and eventually you get 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: to the point where you have your little lull for 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: the summer and then after that is training camp. So 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: like this is we talked about it in previous podcasts 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: where you have mount milestone moments and this is another 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: one of those milestones we talked about being excited about 40 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: the rookies coming in for rookie camp. Well, what's it 41 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: going to be like when the vets show up? Well, 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 3: now the vets are here, and to me, it starts 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: to give you a glimpse, at least internally, of kind 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: of what that normal ebb and flow is going to 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: be like on a daily basis. So this is part 46 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: of the annual maturation of a squad, and I'm excited 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: to see as things ramp up further and further. You're 48 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: hearing more and more from veterans, even some of the rookies, 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: and especially the coaches and coordinators as to we're slow 50 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: rolling this thing to get it out there. But yet 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: you're still seeing highlight videos and things pop up. You're 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: getting interviews, you're getting press conferences, and it starts to 53 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: give you a glimpse of what you're truly going to 54 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: be dealing with here in the fall. 55 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the press conferences earlier this week personally 56 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: got me excited because you start to see the coaches 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: starting to get excited. I think one in particular was 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: Matt Daniels, who's our special teams coordinator, and he's you know, 59 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: giving our media members and fans like a detailed description 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: of how he's implementing this new kickoff rule and how 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: he's practicing certain things and the things that he's thinking about. 62 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, wow, football season is approaching. If 63 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: we're if we're this knee deep into some of the 64 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 2: new rule changes, then clearly there is the I guess 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: the fun is on the horizon. And then of course 66 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell talks about, you know the fact that he's 67 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: able to get more hands on experience with the Sam 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: Donolds and the JJ McCarthy's of the world like that, 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: that is that is very exciting. Seeing some of those 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: highlight videos that the Vikings posting on vikings dot com 71 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: or on our Instagram or Twitter or x handles earlier 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: this week, I'm like, dude, this is this is what 73 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: we've been talking about or waiting for since we started 74 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: talking about some of these you know, mock draft boards. 75 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: And I guess everything that kind of transpired once the 76 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: Chiefs won the Super Bowl this past year. 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: And you can you can't not look at the idea 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: of this being a major shift in the organization this 79 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: season as kind of a launching point for the future. 80 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: You know, we've Kirk came in after we hosted the 81 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: Super Bowl and we were able to you know, have 82 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: kind of that era quarterback wise, and now we're at 83 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: a point where we're in transition and we think we've 84 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: got a couple of guys here on this roster given 85 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: even the guys that are here from before, to be 86 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: the future for this organization. And I think there's a 87 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: lot of people that are very curious and interested to 88 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: hear from, whether it's coaches or those kind of players 89 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: as to, you know, what's the plan moving forward and 90 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: how is the season going to go. I think there's 91 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: a lot of unknowns. There's a lot of new people. 92 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: There's a lot of new bodies that are in here. 93 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: But the thing that I'm more encouraged by is the 94 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: fact that we have essentially a fully intact leadership or 95 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: group coaching wise to help steward these guys. So they've 96 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: gotten to the point where they were basically able to 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 3: help go through and con i'll a kart this roster 98 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: to a point that they wanted. They were able to 99 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: go through and get the draft picks that they were 100 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: focusing on if you go watch the video that Nate 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: Vaughan and his group were able to put out phenomenal 102 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: behind behind the scenes stuff from draft day and kind 103 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: of the you know Quacy talking about, hey, if we 104 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: can get you know, X, Y and Z, if we 105 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: were able to get it in this order, this is 106 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: what we're looking for, and that's exactly what they got, 107 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: you know, basically between us. 108 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, Rause Jurgens and the kicker. 109 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: So being able to just to see some of that 110 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: kind of thing, you're realizing that the game plan that 111 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 3: they had set forth, at least draft wise, they were 112 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: able to knock out exactly what they wanted. And then 113 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: free agency wise, they went out and found a guy 114 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: in Sam Darnold that they feel like can be a 115 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: veteran leadership presence and you know, potential starter here with 116 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: this organization, depending on what happens this offseason. And so 117 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 3: to me, just seeing the plan kind of start to 118 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: fully come into focus, that's the thing that I'm excited about, 119 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: is just to see how that plan you know, gets 120 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: executed and being able to hear from them firsthand as 121 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: to how they feel things are going. 122 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: That's a really good point. I'm just thinking about, you know, 123 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: the whole Kirk Cousins talk this off season of you know, 124 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: is Kirk coming back? 125 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 4: Is he not? Like, what does it look like? How 126 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: do the Vikings move on? 127 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: And then ultimately Kirk signs the massive deal with the 128 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons and everyone is now like everyone is saying, now, well, 129 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: what are the Vikings are going? 130 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: What are the Vikings going to do? Sam Darnold? 131 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: And then slowly certain pieces of the puzzles start to 132 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: be added, you know, Jonathan Gernard to the world, the 133 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: Andrew Vank Eagles, Yeah, the Aaron Jones, like certain pieces, 134 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: and then how the Vikings in this front office attack 135 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: the draft like this, this is best case scenario if 136 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: you ask Kevin O'Connell or quasi when if you ask them, 137 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: how would you want year three to be for you 138 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: if you don't have your starting quarterback that's been here 139 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: for years. I think what we're dealing with, or what 140 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: we're seeing right now is exactly what they will want. 141 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: And seeing that video that the Vikings just posted, that 142 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: is like, I hope our fans are very thankful for 143 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: you know, Nate von and his team because getting that 144 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: behind the scenes access like that is unprecedented access and 145 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: some of those conversations and how we're able to orchestrate 146 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: our board like that was so great to see and 147 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: so great to view, and I'm excited to see how 148 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: that ultimately transpires once those guys start to put on 149 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: some of the pads in the training camp. 150 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 151 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: I think the thing about it you brought up, you know, 152 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: the Gritards and Van Ginkels and the different cashman's and 153 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: something the people that they added it was an infusion 154 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: of veteran talent or at least experience mixed with those 155 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: high end rookie talent pieces that they feel like they can, 156 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: you know, get some good to run on for a 157 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: very long time. So to have all of that and 158 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: then also, like you said, be able to see behind 159 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: the scenes as to how the draft shook out from 160 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: that group, that's something that is months in the planning 161 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: for those guys. Front office being able to sign off 162 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: on it, being able to work with them in order 163 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: to show like, hey, this is the story that we 164 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: want to tell because this is exciting to everybody, not 165 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: only internally but externally, and I think being able to 166 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: have that kind of access is something that we take 167 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: pride in and that we've worked very hard in order 168 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: to get and so to see the reaction from people 169 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: and just to see how, for lack of a better term, 170 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: viral it's gone with people grabbing chunks of it to 171 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: really point it out, is something that just shows you 172 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: how valuable that kind of stuff is. So kudos to 173 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: them and everybody within the organization who are willing to. 174 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 4: Work on that project. 175 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: And then more than anything, you know, kudos for those 176 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: guys being able to identify truly what they want and 177 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: to be able to kind of predict the board the 178 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: way they wanted to or at least manipulate it to 179 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: a point where they could go get what they needed 180 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: and to have that actually happen. So it's been it's 181 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: really has been a crazy offseason to think about the 182 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: amount of change that's happened. And now we're at a 183 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 3: point where you're an ota is, you're going to get 184 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: mandatory mini camp and then it's training camp. So for 185 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 3: all a lot of us internally here, we're just trying 186 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: to buckle up and get ready for what's about to happen, 187 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: and it's just fun to see it unfolding throughout this offseason. 188 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been an entertaining off season, and I 189 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: guess in this case, the NFL has pretty much added 190 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: feel to the fire. When I was looking on NFL 191 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: dot com, the first article that I saw was from 192 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, who is the NFL Around the NFL podcast 193 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: co host for NFL dot Com or NFL Network, and 194 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: he basically put out an article projecting the NFC North 195 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: starters for the twenty twenty four season. And if you 196 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: scroll down closely to the bottom, all the way at 197 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: the bottom, you'll see the Minnesota Vikings, and he has 198 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy as the starting quarterback for this Minnesota Vikings team. 199 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: He pretty much highlighted all twenty two positions starting offense 200 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: and starting defense, but the JJ McCarthy one and then 201 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: wide receiver three Trent Sherfield. Those were two really interesting 202 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: points or interesting takes that I saw from him. And 203 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 2: of course, you know, there are four quarterbacks on this roster. 204 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: There is no need for JJ to come in and 205 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: put the pressure on himself to start immediately. But I 206 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: thought this was very interesting that people around the league 207 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: are starting to feel that JJ McCarthy will be the 208 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: quarterback at some point this year. 209 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: I think well, I mean that's a whole different thing. 210 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: You're talking about some point this year versus week starting 211 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: the season. That I think is a different debate. To me, 212 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: all indications, especially listening to Kevin and Kevin O'Connell and 213 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 3: West Phillips and those guys, is that they're going to 214 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: take their time with this and make sure that they're 215 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: not going to throw him to the wolves and feel like, 216 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: you know, they're going to have a problem. I think 217 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: if they go through training camp, mini camp, everything else 218 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: and come out of preseason and feeling like this kid 219 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: can handle it, then you know they may throw it 220 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: at him. But as of now, everything is indicating that 221 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold most likely is going to be your Week 222 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: one starter for the regular season. So you know, it's 223 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: hard for me to try to take in some of 224 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: the outside information when it comes to the national people 225 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: because there's a difference between are you truly hearing something 226 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: and watching these kind of practices and feeling like this 227 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: is what it's gonna be or is this the I 228 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: know this name is more popular, so I want to 229 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: be able to at least throw this in my article. 230 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 3: I I am not saying that that's the deal I'm 231 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: just trying to figure out, like, where is the information 232 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: or motivation coming from to add these kind of names 233 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: in here. And again, I mean, we're still in the 234 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 3: off season. It's still speculation. You're still writing articles trying 235 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: to you know, figure out what's going to happen. And 236 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: you know, heaven forbid with all of the people in here, 237 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: with everybody from the NFC North, injuries happen in camp 238 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: and all this kind of weirdness can happen. But to me, 239 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: the idea of seeing you know, McCarthy as your starter 240 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: or at least listed here as the starter, that just 241 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: means that everything is gonna have to go right here 242 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: in this off season for the coaches to truly say, hey, man, 243 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: keys are this is the keys to your car, and uh, 244 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: you know, enjoy and we're gonna lead. You know, you're 245 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: gonna be leading us. You're gonna be driving it, and 246 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: everybody else is getting on the bak. 247 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: I mean, and I guess the people on the bus 248 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: are very talented, right like some big kids on that bus. 249 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: So I think for whoever is driving the bus or 250 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: driving the ship, they will be directed in the right 251 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: way when it comes to figuring out what is best 252 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: case scenario for this team. 253 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: We just know that, you know NFL, there are no 254 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: moral victories, like nobody's waiting. 255 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: They want to win. 256 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: This whole organization and this whole league is built and 257 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: predicated on the idea of we are going to win now. Yeah, 258 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: So whatever they feel is going to give them the 259 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: best chance to win, that's what They're going to try 260 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: it out there and have them be the starter, and 261 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: they're going to be honest about it and evaluate it 262 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: on a week to week, game to game basis. And 263 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: so again, they feel like he's going to give them 264 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: the best chance to win, they'll try them out there 265 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: as the starter. 266 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting take, a very intriguing article of fans. 267 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: Want to go check that out in NFL dot com. Also, 268 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: he had Dallas Turner edge rusher, who was drafting in 269 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: the first round for this Minnesota Vikings team. He believes 270 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal believes that Dallas Turner will be a Week 271 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: one starter, if not starting at some point earlier in 272 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: the season. But Jay, I want to transition here when 273 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: talking about Dallas Turner because we've been talking to Jordan 274 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: Reed this offseason and when I asked him a few times, 275 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, what should the Vikings do with the eleventh 276 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: overall selection. This was before the Vikings had acquired the 277 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: twenty third overall selection from the Houston Texans, and he said, well, 278 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: the Vikings ultimately stay at eleven. Dallas Turner is the 279 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: ultimate get at that eleventh overall selection. So the fact 280 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: that we got him on top of JJ McCarthy, I 281 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: think that's very interesting. And today we have the special 282 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: privilege of welcoming Jordan reed to. I guess back up 283 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: his claim on why Dallas Turner and now JJ McCarthy 284 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: are Minnesota Vikings. So without further ado, let's get right 285 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: into that interview. All right, we got ESPNS Jordan Reid 286 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: here on the Minnesota Vikings podcast. If you are new 287 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: to the Minnesota Vikings podcast, you can listen every week 288 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: on Vikings dot com and wherever you stream your audio podcast. 289 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: Jay Reid, the NFL Draft, just you and I talked 290 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: about two or three times, one at the Combine, one 291 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: a week before the draft, and now this is our 292 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: first time talking since the Vikings made the seven selections 293 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. When you look 294 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: at just the JJ McCarthy's of the world when the 295 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: Dallas Turners of the world and some of your projections 296 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: that you, I guess had in place when starting the 297 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: offseason mock draft period, how do you feel about this 298 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: Vikings new team with those two guys being drafted in 299 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: the first round. 300 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: Well, Gabe, I don't know if you remember this, and 301 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 5: I'll remember it very clearly. When you guys were asking 302 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 5: everybody who the Vikings could potentially take back when they 303 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 5: only had the eleventh overall pick, my pick was Dallas Turner. 304 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: You could roll back to takee YouTube audio whatever. Dallas 305 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 5: Turner was my pick back when they only had that 306 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: one first round pick at number eleven overall. So I'm 307 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 5: really happy to see that they targeted the player that 308 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 5: I thought was a really good fit for them in 309 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 5: Dallas Turner. I thought he was the best defensive player 310 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 5: in the draft. I was very shocked that he lasted 311 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 5: all the way until the number seventeen overall pick, which 312 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 5: they traded up for to get him. I thought he 313 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: was one of the best overall defensive players in this 314 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 5: year's class, and I mean, he's a perfect fit for 315 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 5: Brian Floyd's defense. Is gonna be that chess piece, and 316 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 5: they already signed two big guys in free agency with 317 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gernard and Andrew van Ginkel, which is going to 318 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: allow Dallas Turner to obviously mature very slowly, but it 319 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 5: allows them to move him all over the place too, 320 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: just because you have those two veteran defensive bands that 321 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 5: are going to be in your starting lineup. But I mean, 322 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: the headliner is JJ McCarthy, and I thought it was 323 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 5: the worst kept secret that if there was one situation 324 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 5: that you could place him in in any quarterback in 325 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: this draft, and if you poled all these guys, the 326 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 5: one situation where they would want to go into the 327 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 5: league was Minnesota, just because you have so many weapons 328 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 5: with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, TJ. Hockinson. The list 329 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 5: goes on and on as far as the infrastructure that 330 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 5: they have in place. So I thought it made a 331 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 5: lot of sense for JJ tu land in Minnesota, just 332 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 5: because he's not going to be forced to play right away. 333 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 5: To have Sam darn Nick Mullins ahead of them already 334 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 5: as well. So I really liked what they were able 335 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 5: to do, not only in the first round, but also 336 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 5: getting Kyrie Jackson on day two, I thought this, excuse me. 337 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 5: Day three, I thought that was a really good pick 338 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 5: for them, and then also getting some development of players 339 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 5: lack A, Walter Rouse out of Oklahoma, Michael Jurgens at center. 340 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 5: We know they have some questions behind Gary Bradberry in 341 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 5: the starting lineup, and then the interior offensive line behind 342 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 5: Lake Brandle, and then also ad Ingram as well. So 343 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 5: I really like how the class was able to come 344 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 5: together as a whole. 345 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: I love that you did talk about Dallas Turner being 346 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: your guy earlier in the draft processmen, saying if the 347 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: Vikings do stay at eleven, Dallas Turner will be the guy. 348 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: I do remember right before the draft, I said, what 349 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: will be an aggressive draft for this Minnesota Vikings team 350 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: versus conservative? And you said, well, aggressive would be them 351 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: moving up to the third or fourth overall selection to 352 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: get the quarterback of the future, and the Conservative. 353 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: Would be moving back. 354 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: Well, they acquired the twenty third overall selection via trade, 355 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: and they only moved up one spot to the tenth 356 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: overall pick to get JJ McCarthy. Then they traded the 357 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: twenty third overall selection to seventeen to get Dallas Turner. 358 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: Would you call that aggressive conservative same like, what are 359 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: your thoughts on that now that you've seen how the 360 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: Vikings I guess acquired their picks in the first round. 361 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 5: Well, the position everybody thought that they were going to 362 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 5: be aggressive about going up to get was the quarterback, 363 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 5: when in the end it was the defensive player in 364 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 5: Dallas Turner. So I thought that was pretty a bit 365 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 5: of a ironic, I would say, as far as it 366 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 5: all unfolded with that, But I love the approach. Everybody 367 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 5: knew that they had to come out of this draft somehow, 368 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 5: some way with a young quarterback. Now that Kirk Cousins 369 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 5: is gone to Atlanta, they didn't have that young piece 370 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 5: in place that they could build around in the future 371 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 5: behind Sam Donald and then also Nick Mullins. So JJ McCarthy, 372 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 5: I think the best outcome for the Vikings was that 373 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: they didn't have to give up that first round pick 374 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 5: for next year. Yeah, which was a big debate. There 375 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 5: were some people that were comfortable doing that, while there 376 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: were some other people on the other side of the 377 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: fence that were not comfortable doing that. So I love 378 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 5: the patience that Tracy was able to show. He didn't overreact, 379 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 5: and even though I think that Michael Pennick's pick at 380 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: number eight to the Falcons through everybody for a loop 381 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 5: and to himself, that's why he wanted to go up 382 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 5: and get JJ McCarthy at team. But I love that 383 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 5: they didn't have to trade up to three or four 384 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 5: to give up a future draft capital, especially that first 385 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 5: round pick next year. 386 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: I love that. 387 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of just the value that the Vikings 388 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: were able to how much value of the Vikings were 389 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: able to get in this draft. And you met you 390 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: mentioned a guy in Kyrie Jackson. When you look at 391 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: his tape and you see his story, what were some 392 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: things that stood out to you when it came to 393 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: him being a Minnesota Viking now for this team. 394 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 5: Well, the thing that I love the most about Kyrie 395 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 5: and I had an opportunity to sit down and meet 396 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 5: with him after a couple of practices at the Senior Bowl, 397 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 5: and I thought he performed really well. There was just 398 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 5: he was just so thankful for being there. And if 399 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 5: you don't really know his story, you look it up. 400 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 5: It's one of the best of any prospect in this 401 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: entire draft. I mean, somebody that was working at the 402 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 5: grocery store Chipotle as far as the job that he had, 403 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 5: So just his perseverance in him being in the situation 404 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: that he's in today, you know you're going to get 405 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 5: somebody that's going to take advantage of the opportunity that 406 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: he's given. And I love those players, especially those Day 407 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 5: three guys that come through the door hungry. But what 408 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 5: I love and what I tell you all the time 409 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 5: with defensive backs is that have the battle of being 410 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 5: successful in the NFL is confidence. And we both have 411 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 5: already met Kyrie. Confidence is something that he does not 412 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 5: lack at all, So he's already going to have that 413 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 5: walking through the door. And even though things didn't work 414 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 5: out for him at Alabama, once again, he persevered. At Oregon. 415 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 5: He started at the top of the depth chart and 416 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 5: then he was able to keep his spot, but also 417 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 5: he was able to break out and have a great 418 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 5: season last year as well. So I love the perseverance, 419 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 5: I love the confidence, and he's a great fit. And 420 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 5: Brian floor is the scheme he's talked about. A six 421 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 5: foot three corner that can run. He's rangy, he has 422 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 5: really good ball skills, and the Vikers are really starting 423 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 5: to collect some young cornerbacks, so it really would not 424 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 5: be surprising me if he finds his way into playing 425 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: significant snaps, whether it's on special teams or even at 426 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 5: corner this year, I really like a lot of the 427 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 5: young corners that they have been able to collect, whether 428 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 5: it's a Makai Blackman, the Caleb Evans. Now you throw 429 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 5: Kyrie into that mix, and I really think they have 430 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: a really good young nucleus at Corn. 431 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 2: And you mentioned Alabama that you know, adding on top 432 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: of that, this is a team where Kyrie Jackson gets 433 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: to play with two of his former teammates in college 434 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: and Dallas Turner and wild Rekerds. So having that connection, 435 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: I know, I mean, you know about this when you 436 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: go to college or you go to a different team, 437 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: You're always looking for something that you can kind of 438 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: latch onto. So the fact that he has two former teammates, 439 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure that is going to bode well for him. 440 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: But now that OTA's Phase two is in full effect, 441 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: now when you start to see some of these young 442 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: guys mix in with some of these veterans, For these 443 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: young guys, like how do you define success when it 444 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: comes to you know, like being on the field with 445 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: some of these guys that are thirty and thirty five 446 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: years and a's and you're just trying to, you know, 447 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: get your footing. 448 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 4: As far as playing in the NFL. 449 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: Well, I think the first one is just understand your role. 450 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 5: There's going to be some guys that have different roles, 451 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 5: whether it's JJ or Dallas or whoever. Just understand what 452 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 5: your initial role is going to be and then just 453 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 5: slow play everything. These coaches they're going to try to 454 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 5: throw everything at you, whether it's the playbook, different schemes 455 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 5: that they're going to be doing, some different roles that 456 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 5: they're going to be asked to do. And understand that 457 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 5: you're going to have to face some adversity. I mean, 458 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 5: Harrison Smith is probably going to pick off JJ McCarthy 459 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 5: one of these days in practice. But what they're going 460 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 5: to be looking for is how do you bounce back 461 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 5: from it? And then also let's just make sure that 462 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 5: we're learning from those mistakes as well, just because that's 463 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 5: what these many characies OTAs, these practices, that's what they're for. 464 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 5: Just because if I'm JJ McCarthy just speaking from a 465 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 5: quarterback standpoint, what am I comfortable with in the playbook 466 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 5: and then what do I need help with? Just so 467 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 5: I know what to work on when I'm moving forward. 468 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 5: And then also sitting down with Koc and Quacy and 469 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 5: these West Phillips and all these other offensive coaches, how 470 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 5: can they help me get more comfortable in these parts 471 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 5: of the playbook. And then also the footwork that's a 472 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: big thing that's not really talked about a lot with 473 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 5: JJ and something that he really struggled with during his 474 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 5: time in Michigan. There's going to be footwork tied to 475 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: every single passing concept that is in the playbook now, 476 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 5: So just understanding those details and the nuances of everything 477 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 5: that's going to be asked of them, and then just 478 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 5: weathering and fighting through that adversity that they're going to face. 479 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: How important do you think it is or beneficial that 480 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: you think it is that JJ McCarthy gets to learn 481 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: from three guys that all got starting quarterback reps in 482 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: this quarterback room for this Minnesota Viking Steam last year. 483 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 5: Well, it's huge. And I'll just speak on Sam Donald's 484 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 5: behalf just because he was once in a very similar 485 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 5: situation to JJ McCarthy, being a highly drafted first round pick, 486 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 5: so he understands what JJ is going through. 487 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: Now. 488 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 5: The situations are a lot different. I think it's more 489 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 5: advantageous for JJ just because of the infrastructure that's in 490 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: place as opposed to what Sam went through during his 491 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 5: time with the Jets. But well, I think the personalities 492 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: are going to make so well with each other. Is 493 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 5: that once again, Sam's not a super old guy. Believe 494 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 5: he's going to be twenty seven years old, so he 495 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 5: understands what's at state. But also he's walked in the 496 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 5: shoes of what JJ is going to go through already. 497 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 5: And then also he's had experience in the type of 498 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 5: playbook that JJ is going to go through as well. 499 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 5: And then also Sam can share some experiences that he 500 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 5: went through during his early stages as well, whether it's adversity, 501 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 5: positive moments, some things that he learned from during his 502 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 5: time as a rookie quarterback or just a young quarterback 503 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 5: in general as well. So I really like the quarterback 504 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 5: room they have put in place. But also Sam Donald's 505 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 5: awareness of being able to share his prior experiences with 506 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 5: JJ as well. 507 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: That's a really good point. And I believe you know, whenever. 508 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: Someone is drafted in the first round, fan expectations is okay, 509 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: this guy has to play immediately So for JJ McCarthy 510 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: to have three guys to learn from and not rush 511 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: that process, I do think that makes his process, you know, 512 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: a little bit better, and it makes him not, I guess, 513 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: put as much pressure on himself. But for a guy 514 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: Dallas Turner, right that you bring him in, you already 515 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: have brought into outside linebackers in free agency with Andrew 516 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: Van Ginkel and Jonathan Gernard. Like, how do you see 517 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: Dallas Turner fitting in and ultimately getting some immediate snaps 518 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: If that's what Brian Flores decides to do with him. 519 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 5: Well, the great thing for Dallas is that he's not 520 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 5: going to have to start early on. And I know 521 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 5: that may disappoint some fans, but it's really a good 522 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 5: thing to me, just because a lot of times when 523 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 5: rookies are rushed out there too early, and I'm not 524 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 5: just speaking from a quarterback standpoint, but just in general, 525 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 5: they get overwhelmed a lot, just because you're adjusting to 526 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 5: the speed of the game. But also you want to 527 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 5: make sure you're in the right positions from a playbook 528 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 5: standpoint as well. So not only are you trying to 529 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 5: get over the avalanche of information that's being thrown at 530 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 5: you from a game speed standpoint, but also you're adjusting 531 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 5: to a new scheme as well, so there's a lot 532 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 5: of hurdles that you're trying to get over during your 533 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 5: early on game action. And then there's some rookies that 534 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 5: don't even get comfortable in the scheme until later on 535 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 5: in the season or even going into their second year. 536 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 5: So for Dallas, him essentially being a relief pitcher is 537 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 5: what I like to call it early on behind Andrew 538 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: Van Geigo and then also Jonathan Gunnard. Maybe we can 539 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 5: focus on him being a bit of a changeup in 540 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 5: the line of playing him on third downs, dropping him 541 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 5: to coverage some of these times, and even playing an 542 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 5: inside and what I like to call those NASCAR packages 543 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 5: on third down of where we just get a bunch 544 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 5: of speed in our four down defensive front. So I 545 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: think he's in a really good situation of where we 546 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 5: can take advantage of his athletic gifts early on and 547 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 5: we really don't have to rush him into action. 548 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 4: Last love it man. 549 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 2: Lastly, my final question is when you look at just 550 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: this Vikings roster right now on paper, what are some 551 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: other missing pieces or what are some other positions that 552 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: the Vikings can address via free agency or you know, 553 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: once you know, the fifty three man rosters across the 554 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: league start to be constructed and some of those veterans 555 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: start to become available for other teams. 556 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 4: To pick up. What are some of those positions that 557 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 4: you think the Vikings can address. 558 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 5: There's two that make a lot of sense to me, 559 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 5: and it's on the interior of both offensive defensive line. 560 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 5: I would like to see them add another guard to 561 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 5: get some competition with Blake Brandle, whether that's bringing Dalton 562 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 5: Rising the back or signing a street free agent somewhere, 563 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 5: just because Brandal basically is an unproven guy right now. 564 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 5: So I would like to see them bringing in a 565 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 5: free agent guard, whether it's bringing Rising, a back or 566 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 5: some other player off of the streets in free agency. 567 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: So guard definitely is one. And then also interior defensive 568 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 5: tackle or defensive line. I should say, I think they're 569 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 5: a bit thin there. And I know they drafted Levi 570 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 5: Drake Rodriguez in the seventh round, but I don't think 571 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 5: he's a player that you can count on, especially early 572 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 5: on in his rookie season, just because we have to 573 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 5: remember that he is a late Day three draft prospect. 574 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 5: I think that would just be unfair to him counting 575 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 5: on him to play significant snaps early on. So bring 576 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 5: somebody along the interior defensive line. I think that's another 577 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 5: position that they looked that they should look to add 578 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 5: a free agency. 579 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: Look, it's a fun time here in Minnesota. I know 580 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 2: I always bring this up. You are a Vikings fan 581 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: from Afar. You follow this team closely, so it's all 582 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: He's great having you on and I'm looking forward to 583 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: to having you on before the season starts to give 584 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: your thoughts some where the Vikings currently stand at that point. 585 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: We know this is a process from combine to week one. 586 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: So it's been great talking to you and looking forward 587 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: to having you on again. 588 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 5: Jay Reed, absolutely, thanks as always. 589 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 4: Gay. 590 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: I think a lot of fans are a little intrigued 591 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: when they hear that Jordan Reed is a Vikings fan, 592 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: especially understanding that you know he's from North Carolina. 593 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: He works for ESPN. 594 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: He's very objective with his takes, but when it comes 595 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: to this team, you feel his energy when he breaks 596 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: down some of the things that's happening within the building. 597 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, between the two of you, it's the Carolina Vikings 598 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: at this point. 599 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: Yes, seriously, no, but it is cool. 600 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: You know, it just means that a guy like Jordan, 601 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 3: you know, has been paying attention to what's going on. 602 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm you're seeing him more and more on 603 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: TV shows and podcasts and everything else. I think, you know, 604 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: you're you're seeing from Jordan a higher profile at least publicly, 605 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 3: and so to know that he is paying attention as 606 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: much as he is. And we've talked to him over 607 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: the years. You know, you've brought him in here as 608 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 3: a guest here, and he's been great to work with. 609 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 3: It is very interesting to hear kind of his biased, 610 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: unbiased take of what's happening with the team. And by bias, 611 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 3: I mean purely that he's been paying attention to what's 612 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 3: been going on. So it's great to have him around. 613 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: And it is interesting. You know, you guys had talked 614 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 3: about kind of the predictions of what had happened before 615 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 3: and then to see how it all had played out. 616 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: There was a discussion about trading up, you know, earlier 617 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: in the draft. Well, we technically did made the trade 618 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 3: to get us to tend to get the quarterback, but 619 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 3: then we did make you know, the bigger jump to 620 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: go get Dallas Turner. 621 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 622 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: And the other thing that was interesting too was, you know, 623 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: he did touch on one of our guys there at 624 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: the end of the interview and Levi Drake Rodriguez, and 625 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: just he's he's trying to look at the totality of 626 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: what we had done. So to hear him kind of say, 627 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: you know, this is kind of how things shook out 628 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: from what we had discussed, and then to see kind 629 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: of his overall take as to feel like, you know, 630 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: I think the team really addressed a bunch of needs 631 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: that they were looking for. Is just kind of an 632 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: outside take for a lot of things we've already been 633 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: talking about here for the last month or so. So 634 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: it's always great to have Jordan on and it feels 635 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: like he really is plugged in, and I love having 636 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: him on the show. 637 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: I think that every well, every time I talk to 638 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: him off camera and we have our Vikings conversations, it 639 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: reminds me of me talking to you off camera, because like, 640 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: I feel his pain. He always talks about the ninety 641 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: eight vikings and then like the years that kind of 642 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: you know, came efterts and I don't I don't know, 643 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: like I didn't grow up a Vikings fan. But like 644 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: talking to the both of you, I'm like, dude, I 645 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: feel like I grew up here, like I feel some 646 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: of this pain. So it's it's always interesting to hear 647 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: both of you guys be objective and your takes when 648 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: it comes to trying to eliminate some of your feelings 649 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: about how how you've been high and then let down 650 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: and then high. 651 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: Again, and the personal professional right exactly exactly, And I 652 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: think that's something you know, I've talked to other people 653 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: privately about this, at least on my end, the idea 654 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: of feeling like there were there's almost like a specific 655 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: moment where I could go through and identify as to 656 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: when I had to switch from more of the emotional 657 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: fan to being more professional and and so there is 658 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: a sense of trying to, like with him, be objective 659 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: as much as you can, you know, looking at this 660 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: knowing that full well there is emotional investment and you know, 661 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: a lifetime of fandom within this team, but at the 662 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: same point, you know, trying to be objective as to 663 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: what truly you're seeing, and you know there are times 664 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: that you're you're wanting to be the cheerleader and be 665 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: able to be able to say, like, listen, you know, 666 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: there is a there is still hope here. There is 667 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: a feeling of accomplishment, and this team is steering in 668 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: the right direction. And you know, I love it. I 669 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: love this team so very much. And to be able 670 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: to be able to do stuff like this, and whether 671 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: it's myself or Jordan or whomever, and and and being 672 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 3: able to kind of you know, pull people onto the 673 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: onder the train with everybody else rolling down the tracks 674 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: and be able to enjoy it. I think it really 675 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: is a it's a labor of love, and it's it's 676 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: great to be able to have another person in somebody 677 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: like Jordan Reied, to be able to share that with 678 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: as well. 679 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, I love it. I do think. 680 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: I mean, we talk about it all the time, like 681 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: this this team deserves a championship and the fact that 682 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: this Timberwolves team is on a run right now, like 683 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: this entire city deserves a championship of some sort. I know, 684 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 2: you know, this is the Minnesota Vikings podcast, but I 685 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: do think we have, you know, a little bit of 686 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: room to talk about this Minnesota Timberwolves team and what 687 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: this what it means to this city of having them 688 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: in the Western Conference Finals and hopefully getting a couple 689 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: of wins here in a few days. 690 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the idea too. And I you know, 691 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: everyone's rolling with the sound bite of well, but them 692 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: talking about the idea of hey, you got to lose 693 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: a big series before you can actually win one, And 694 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: then you know, Carl just look s having he says, 695 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: we've been losing for twenty years, Like, what are you talking? 696 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 4: Are else you much more are losing? Do we have 697 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 4: to do kind of thing? 698 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 3: Like I But what that truly identifies to me is 699 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: the idea of them understanding how hungry that fan base 700 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: is and how hungry this community is to have something 701 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: like that happened. Sports are all about providing hope and 702 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 3: providing a distraction and providing something that we collectively can 703 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: support and find civic pride in. And to have a 704 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: team like the Timberwolves who are fun, young, exciting, and 705 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: really on the ascend is something that it just kind 706 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: of feels like everyone looks at that organization and says 707 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: they've got something figured out and we're starting to open 708 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: a window here of success. And I think that is 709 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 3: the goal here as well for this organization. Is we're 710 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: bringing in experience, we're bringing in young talent, and we're 711 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: trying to you know, we're getting to the point where 712 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: we're opening another window of success after you know, closing 713 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: the one that we just had with Kirk Cousins. We're 714 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: now opening another window to see what we got here 715 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: and to make a run of our own. So for me, 716 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: that is why I think the idea of hope and 717 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: selling hope for the off season is so intoxicating for 718 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: a lot of people. And I think we as an 719 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: organization here with the Vikings, are are at that point 720 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: now and year three with a head coach and a 721 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: GM and or season three at least, we're getting to 722 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: that point now where it's like, yeah, this is this 723 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: is the new team, this is the new thing. We've 724 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: got superstars, and now it's time for them to go 725 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: out and play. 726 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent with everything you just said there. 727 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: In addition, I do think this is great for this 728 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings team also simply because when you look at 729 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: some of the pictures that the Timberwls post on social media, 730 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: and you know, seeing all the Vikings players there justin Jefferson, 731 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy Jordan Addison. I mean we had a suite 732 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 2: full of Vikings players literally experiencing experiencing some of the 733 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: moments from the last series, and the fact that they 734 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: get to fill it from a fan perspective of what 735 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: this city, how the city rallies behind their teams in 736 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: real time when it comes to the playoffs. Now it 737 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: gives them something else to play for, something else to 738 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: dig down deep to fine because this is a this 739 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: is a great city. I'm just thinking about, you know, 740 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty the pandemic, everything that happened, and now 741 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: the city leaning on its sports teams to ultimately will 742 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: themselves out of defeat, right. I mean, this city hasn't 743 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 2: won an X amount of years, So I do think 744 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: this is really good for Kevin O'Connor and this Minnesota 745 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: Vikings team to fill it in real time. 746 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: It's been thirty three years since we had a championship, 747 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: you know, outside of outside of the of the Links 748 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 3: and their success and their sustained success when it comes 749 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 3: to the four major you know, men's sports teams, it's 750 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 3: been thirty three years essentially, thirty two and a half 751 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 3: years since we've had a championship. So it's been twenty 752 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: years since the Timberwolves. We're in a Western Conference finals. 753 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 4: Crazy. 754 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: I think the one thing, like you said, it does 755 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 3: show them is kind of the passion and the hunger 756 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: for the fans to say, we want to support you 757 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: in these kind of endeavors and it's exciting for us 758 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: and it should be exciting for you. So hopefully for 759 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: them to feel that electricity at Target Center and to 760 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: kind of you know, kind of realize, like especially for 761 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 3: the new guys that haven't potentially been to a game 762 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 3: yet at US Bank Stadium, to feel the electricity in 763 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 3: that building and then know that it's triple at US 764 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: Bank Stadium essentially, like that's got to be something that 765 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 3: gives them some juice too. So hopefully, you know, kind 766 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: of the idea of if you're watching greatness, you know, 767 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: hopefully have a little bit of that leach off on 768 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: you as to what it takes and kind of understanding 769 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: what you're in for. Hopefully this is something that for 770 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 3: them they get some entertainment out of it, but then 771 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 3: they also have a little bit of a taste of 772 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 3: what truly this community can do and what they want 773 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: to do to. 774 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 4: Support all of these organizations. I'm excited. 775 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: This was an exciting podcast, exciting time to be in 776 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: Minnesota and just everything that goes into this playoff run. 777 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: I think Vikings fans and or just Minnesota sports fans 778 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: should be excited for us to come. A long off 779 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: season ahead. We're in OTA Phase number two and a 780 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: lot of content coming for Vikings fans, So make sure 781 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 2: you stay tuned to Vikings dot com for the most 782 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: up to date covers of the team for our producer, 783 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: mister Eric Davidson, our special guest Jordan Reed checking out 784 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 2: some from Vikings dot com. 785 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 4: My name is Gabe Panderson. 786 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: Thank you guys again for tuning into episode two seventy 787 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: three of the Minnesota Vikings podcast. 788 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: Spolon Montage is the Twin Cities premier salon and spa 789 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: destination and proud official hair sponsor of the Minnesota Vikings cheerleaders, 790 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: with three convenient locations in a Dinah, Woodbury, and chan Hassen. 791 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: There is a Spalan close to you. 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