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Speaker 3: Have a Crystal, a bunch of breaking news.

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Speaker 2: We had to add into the show with regard to

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Speaker 2: the Epstein files. So yesterday Glaine Maxwell pleaded the fifth,

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Speaker 2: but she did say, hey, she will exonerate Trump if

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Speaker 2: he gives her a Barden, So break that down for you.

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Speaker 2: Massey and Connor were able to force the revelation of

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Speaker 2: one of the potential co conspirators with Epstein. The same time,

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Speaker 2: we're looking at Trump's housing ideas one of which is

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Speaker 2: being blocked by Congress. Controversy continuing to rage over some

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Speaker 2: American Olympian comments AI medical devices alleged to cause severe harm.

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Speaker 2: DOGE impacted the ability of the FDA to be able

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Speaker 2: very latest with regards to the war in Sudan. His

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Speaker 1: jump into it. The big story coming out yesterday Gallaine

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Speaker 1: Maxwell pleading the fifth before the House Oversight Committee, but

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Speaker 1: We have it on video. Let's take a listen, Miss Maxwell.

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Speaker 1: Were you a close friend and confidant of Jeffrey Apstein.

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Speaker 4: I would like to answer your question, but on the

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Speaker 4: Advisive Council, I respectfully decline to answer this question and

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Speaker 4: any related questions. My habeas petition is pending in the

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Speaker 4: Southern District of New York. I therefore invote my right

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Speaker 1: Let the record reflect that Miss Maxwell is invoked at

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Speaker 1: So you have here Galeane Maxwell, testifying from prison, saying

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Speaker 1: refusing to answer any questions Her attorney, however, clarified, let's

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Speaker 7: And this is such obvious, such an obvious ploy to

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Speaker 1: Now note she's not saying I didn't do any of that.

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Speaker 2: that together with the fact that yesterday we covered how

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Speaker 2: Put They put in a little footnote there that said, hey,

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Speaker 2: by the way, there were twenty five other co conspirators.

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Speaker 3: She made deals with the government, so let's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: So, yes, she is playing power politics now in terms

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Speaker 2: Clearly they've done everything they can for her while keeping

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Speaker 2: the door, and can you know, as they'll find a act.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Glaine, go free, you know, go out

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Speaker 3: You also have to put it together.

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Speaker 2: The Clinton mentioned there with the fact that Bill and

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Speaker 2: they know. Originally, when they were subpoenaed, they were saying, Nope,

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Speaker 3: Now, we'll see. I'm not holding my.

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Speaker 1: That endangered their great political fortunes and their reputation. I mean,

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Speaker 2: And the way it functions is mutually assured destruction. That's

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to Thomas Massey courageously been pushing

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Speaker 8: is why so many of the files they're getting are

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Speaker 8: redacted in the first place, and until that becomes unredacted,

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Speaker 8: the main things that they're sending to the career attorneys

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Speaker 8: to review, I don't think we're going to have full

438
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Speaker 8: compliance with the law. Get to the question that most

439
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Speaker 8: Americans want to know. Who were the rich and powerful

440
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Speaker 8: people who went to this island? Did they rape underage girls?

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Speaker 8: Did they know that underage girls were being paraded around?

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Speaker 1: Six men? Implicated foreign government, someone high up at a

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Speaker 1: foreign government. I would love to see some of that,

444
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Speaker 1: certainly would Immediately afterwards with Thomas Massey actually started tweeting

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Speaker 1: out very specific redactions which they had been made, which

446
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Speaker 1: violated again the very law that they authored and were

447
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Speaker 1: passed through con assigned by the President, and the DJ

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Speaker 1: had to start immediately unredacting said files as part of

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Speaker 1: this request. Let's put this next one up here on

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Speaker 1: the screen. Thomas Massey, in response to my posts today,

451
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Speaker 1: the DJ has now unredacted an FBI file that labels

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Speaker 1: two individuals as co conspirators. They have unredacted a file

453
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Speaker 1: that lists several men who they implicated, and they have

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Speaker 1: tacitly admitted Sultan Ahmed Binsuliyam was the center of the

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Speaker 1: torture video. Now, very specifically, what I think is very important,

456
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Speaker 1: perhaps more than anyone, is the explicit naming in this

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Speaker 1: case of Leslie Western. Now, this will come of no

458
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Speaker 1: surprise to literally anybody who knows anything about the Epstein case. However,

459
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Speaker 1: it does immediately downplay the initial claim by the FBI,

460
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Speaker 1: by Cash Bettel, by Dan Bongino that this was a

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Speaker 1: singular enterprise that only Epstein and Maxwell participated in. Wexner

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Speaker 1: was explicitly listed as a potential co conspirator here in

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Speaker 1: the DODA documents. It also just makes common sense. The

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Speaker 1: former CEO of Victorious Secret, who is the source of

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Speaker 1: Epstein's wealth and initial entree into high society, is the

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Speaker 1: person who, oh and who drew Boobs in the birthday book,

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Speaker 1: is a potential co conspirator in this entire scheme. Oh,

468
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Speaker 1: you're you know, you're shocking me with this information. Very important.

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Speaker 1: The second one is a sultan, the Dubai Sultan Ahmed

470
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Speaker 1: bin Soliyam, who we have actually talked previously about here

471
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Speaker 1: on the show. This is the guy who is the

472
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Speaker 1: chief executive officer of the Dubai Ports Now Ryan and

473
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Speaker 1: Mortaza saying over at drop site have written at nauseum

474
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Speaker 1: stories about the Sultan and Epstein's relationship and the way

475
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Speaker 1: that they were working as a financial conduit in the

476
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Speaker 1: Middle East, and that was real power, like real money

477
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Speaker 1: stuff that was going that seems to have been financing

478
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Speaker 1: some of the stuff behind the scenes for the intelligence

479
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Speaker 1: deals and other things that we've talked about previously. But

480
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Speaker 1: just to show you also that there are our own

481
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Speaker 1: relationship here with the alleged torture video in that infamous email,

482
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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of creepy jokes or comments between

483
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Speaker 1: the two. Also demonstrates that those two are linked, which

484
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Speaker 1: is such an important part of the story. Like the

485
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Speaker 1: sex stuff does not exist without the intelligence stuff and

486
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Speaker 1: the financial and then same vice versus the financial and

487
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Speaker 1: the intelligence doesn't exist without the sexual like degeneracy that's

488
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Speaker 1: present within the email. So very important reactions force unredactions

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Speaker 1: forced there by Thomas Massey Myrocana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what that email just for as a reminder,

491
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Speaker 2: it said Jeffrey Epstein to now we know this, Sultan said,

492
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Speaker 2: I loved the torture video. Wow, that's what it was. Okay,

493
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Speaker 2: what torture video? What are we talking about exactly here?

494
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Speaker 2: These are the sort of things that can be explored

495
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Speaker 2: now that we know the name of this individual. And

496
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Speaker 2: just to underscore, you know, Thomas Massey was talking about, Okay,

497
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Speaker 2: now we know one potential co conspirator who was identified

498
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Speaker 2: by the federal government. Loved to know was there any

499
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Speaker 2: sort of a you know, cooperation grow was there any

500
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Speaker 2: sort of a deal that was shocked with Les Wexner?

501
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Speaker 2: Was that one of the people that Glene Maxwell is

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Speaker 2: referring to in her filing.

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Speaker 3: What was the investigation into him?

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Speaker 2: Like, what sort of evidence did you have on Les

505
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Speaker 2: Wexner and these other co conspirators that you were potential

506
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Speaker 2: co conspirators that you were looking into. Let's go ahead

507
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Speaker 2: and take a listen to Thomas Massey talking about this an.

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Speaker 10: Example of something maybe it wasn't intentional on their part.

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Speaker 10: I'd like to hear his take on the redaction of

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Speaker 10: the CEO who's listed as a co conspirator in the

511
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Speaker 10: twenty nineteen child sex trafficking case.

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Speaker 11: So can I ask you, because and now I want

513
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Speaker 11: to ask you if this is the same person Todd

514
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Speaker 11: Blinch also said about that tonight that the document you're

515
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Speaker 11: citing there has victim names in it, So I like

516
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Speaker 11: to say that's why there are redactions. He said, we

517
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Speaker 11: have just unredacted Les Wexner's name from this document, but

518
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Speaker 11: his name already appears in the file thousands of other times.

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Speaker 11: And he says the Justice Department is hiding nothing. Is

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Speaker 11: that the retired CEO.

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Speaker 10: That you're referencing it is he unredacted it after I

522
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Speaker 10: found it. That's a problem, and I'm glad they've admitted

523
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Speaker 10: they made a mistake by redacting that.

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Speaker 11: So you're saying it was redacted when you went in

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Speaker 11: there today and after you tweeted that, they unreducted it.

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Speaker 8: Correct.

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Speaker 10: Now he's got four other names he needs to unredact.

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Speaker 10: Did he respond to that. There's a list of twenty

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Speaker 10: people and there's four men in there that need to

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Speaker 10: be unredacted. Here's another troubling thing that I found.

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Speaker 11: Can you say who those four men are tonight?

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Speaker 10: I don't think they're well known, and so if I did,

533
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Speaker 10: it wouldn't matter. But I could probably say them on

534
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Speaker 10: the floor of the House. But I'll give the DOJ

535
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Speaker 10: a chance to do what they did in these two

536
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Speaker 10: examples where I've discovered something and now they've responded.

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Speaker 3: So a number of very significant things that he says there.

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Speaker 2: He casually mentions, well, I could probably say I'm on

539
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Speaker 2: the floor of the house, because yes, you are allowed

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Speaker 2: to reveal that sort of information, and you had sort

541
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Speaker 2: of an exclusion as a member of Congress, so you know,

542
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Speaker 2: at any time he's held out the possibility of what

543
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Speaker 2: he calls the nuclear option.

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Speaker 3: Listen, if you all don't.

545
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Speaker 2: Do what you're supposed to do, what you're legally oblsd

546
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Speaker 2: to do, I will come out and I will say

547
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Speaker 2: the names I will put on the record, who these

548
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Speaker 2: unindicted co conspirators are, who was being looked into. And

549
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Speaker 2: then the DOJ's defense here that, oh, well, Less Wexner's

550
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Speaker 2: name was in the file thousands of times.

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Speaker 3: Why do you care so much about this one?

552
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Speaker 2: It's like, because this is the one that specifically identifies

553
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Speaker 2: him as a potential co conspirator. It's one thing to

554
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Speaker 2: have emails about this person going back and forth and

555
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Speaker 2: whatever sort of dialogue was going on. It's another thing

556
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: to specifically know the government identified this wealthy man and

557
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: benefactor of Jeffrey Epstein over many, many years, as someone

558
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Speaker 2: who deserved an investigation, as someone who may have been

559
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: directly implicated in Epstein's crimes. That is a very different

560
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Speaker 2: thing than just seeing some email traffic back and forth

561
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Speaker 2: with less Wexner's name in it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. And then finally there is some horrific

563
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Speaker 1: new video. This is from Congressman James Jamie Raskin, who

564
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Speaker 1: also was able to review some files, and he's revealing again,

565
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Speaker 1: you know, for even though we talked previously about some

566
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Speaker 1: of the barely legal and all of that defense, here'son mentioned.

567
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Speaker 1: He says of underage girls. And in this case, there's

568
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Speaker 1: no even argument actual girls. Let's play a six and

569
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Speaker 1: take a listen.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's an incredibly serious thing when you read

571
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Speaker 6: through these files and you read about fifteen year old girls,

572
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Speaker 6: fourteen year old girls, ten year old girls. I saw

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Speaker 6: mention of a nine year old girl today. I mean,

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Speaker 6: this is just preposterous and scandalous. So, you know, I

575
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Speaker 6: don't want to I don't want to get into any

576
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Speaker 6: particular case right now, but I hope the whole country

577
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Speaker 6: is focusing on the absolute gravity of the crisis that

578
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Speaker 6: we're in and you think the British are taking it

579
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Speaker 6: more seriously than we are, Oh, definitely, I mean it is.

580
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Speaker 6: I mean it's a huge scandal.

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Speaker 1: Right, So for all of the talk about you know,

582
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Speaker 1: it's just sixteen seventeen year old like they now, look,

583
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Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. But if there's a mention investigation

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Speaker 1: and by the way, even with the mention, what exactly

585
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Speaker 1: do they say? So that's fully kind of what we

586
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Speaker 1: know now in terms of the new information so far

587
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 1: that's been breaking. But I do think that the Massy

588
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: one is very significant, and the most significant is this story.

589
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Speaker 1: The DOJ, unless explicitly called out, is covering up for

590
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Speaker 1: all of these people.

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Speaker 10: Right.

592
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Speaker 1: If you go and look at the Deputy Attorney General's feed,

593
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Speaker 1: multiple of the claims that they say are not true. So,

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Speaker 1: for example, Thomas Massey, in his original tweet about Leslie

595
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Speaker 1: Wexner said, this is a well known retired CEO. DJ

596
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Speaker 1: should unredact this. Todd Blanch says, the document you cite

597
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Speaker 1: has numerous victim names. We just unredacted Leslie Wexner's name.

598
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Speaker 1: DOJ is hiding nothing. The document from twenty nineteen discussed

599
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Speaker 1: only ten potential co conspirators and contain known to victims' names.

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Speaker 1: These are just outright lies. And then here's the difficulty

601
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Speaker 1: for all of us. So as heroic as Massy and

602
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Speaker 1: Conna are, these are two guys. They are trying to

603
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Speaker 1: go in there to this skiff for these unredacted documents

604
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Speaker 1: and trying to remember from the top of their head

605
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Speaker 1: what is unredact, what should be redacted and not. We

606
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Speaker 1: they can't do that. And even if they'm in their staff,

607
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Speaker 1: there's three million file there's hundreds of lawyers at the

608
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Speaker 1: DOJ have been working on this stuff for months. Yeah,

609
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Speaker 1: we already violated the deadline. Like this would literally take

610
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Speaker 1: our entire team, their entire staff, every journalist who's potentially interested,

611
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Speaker 1: and then it would take us months just to go

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Speaker 1: through and flag what should be unredacted. Then there's a

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Speaker 1: process and a review. This is the extent to what

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Speaker 1: they're covering up. And by the way, don't forget there's

615
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Speaker 1: still three million more files yeah, that are out there

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Speaker 1: that remained completely unreleased.

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Speaker 2: And this is why you know, Roll, Conna and Thomas

618
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Speaker 2: Masseo were pushing for a special master, right, take it

619
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Speaker 2: out of the hands of the corrupted DJ and put

620
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Speaker 2: it in the hands of someone who was at least,

621
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Speaker 2: you know, supposed to be neutral and.

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Speaker 3: Who can follow a process.

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Speaker 2: And you know, because it's been a horror show, like

624
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Speaker 2: you have powerful men who are being protected, and you

625
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: have victims, names that have been and images who have

626
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Speaker 2: been exposed.

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Speaker 3: Like it's a mess. Jamie Raskin was.

628
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Speaker 2: Talking about that same thing, you were, Sagary's Like, there

629
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Speaker 2: are four computers in there. If every member of Congress

630
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Speaker 2: went in for an hour day every day, it would

631
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Speaker 2: take you know, it would take months, if not years

632
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Speaker 2: to get through all of this material and be able

633
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Speaker 2: even just to evaluate it to see whether they're actually

634
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Speaker 2: following the law. I mean, we know that they're not,

635
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Speaker 2: just by the nature of the fact that they are

636
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Speaker 2: continuing to hide files and that so many of these

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Speaker 2: reactions have been done improperly, over redacted, under redacted, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: So you know, that's where we are. It is, honestly though,

639
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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 2: A miracle that we've even gotten this much and a

641
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Speaker 2: testament to you know, condent and Massy gets so much

642
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Speaker 2: credit here, but also testament to just the level of

643
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Speaker 2: pressure from the American people. All of these members of Congress,

644
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Speaker 2: having to come home and knowing they're going to get

645
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Speaker 2: questions about this and how utterly indefensible it is. That

646
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Speaker 2: pressure is what really led them to cave and realized like, okay,

647
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Speaker 2: well we got to do something because this thing is

648
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Speaker 2: going to boil over if we don't put something out

649
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Speaker 2: and give some pretense of transparency.

650
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, okay, let's get to the next part. This is

651
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: about files. Moving on now to some more of the

652
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: revelations from the files themselves. Remember, this is the gift

653
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: that just keep on giving. Let's go ahead and put

654
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: this up here on the screen. Newly released Epstein documents

655
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: showing that the FBI agent purposely removed a hard drive

656
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: from the jail video recording system and erased all the

657
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: prison footage during the time of death. If you don't

658
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: believe me, let me go ahead and read it directly

659
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: from the transcript. Advised an FBI agent was the one

660
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: who pulled out the DVR. Also advised he knew that

661
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Speaker 1: by replacing both hard drives the system would be wiped,

662
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: and he had advised personnel at MCC of that. Continuing

663
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Speaker 1: advised that only one hard drive of the camera system

664
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Speaker 1: was working at the time of the incident when a

665
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: DVR went bad, none of the cameras recorded. There was

666
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Speaker 1: a system failure failure of DVR two on July twenty

667
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: nine to twenty nineteen, and the motherboard failed on DVR

668
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Speaker 1: two on August eight, twenty nineteen. The hard drive failure

669
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Speaker 1: occurred on August ten, twenty nineteen. After the incident. Blank

670
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: was asked about the cameras. There were two new hard

671
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: drives to install, but installing the new hard drives would

672
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: mean that all prior data would be lost. The Warden

673
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: wanted video, and so Blank was exactly what happened. They

674
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Speaker 1: went ahead and wiped it. So there you go. All right,

675
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: that's a new one. So we have the memo. We

676
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: now have the DVR. So there's that. Now.

677
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Speaker 3: If the decoy body the decoy.

678
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Speaker 1: Body, right, which I mean I asked yesterday. Oh, I

679
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: did put out a public call yesterday for sulfuric acid.

680
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: I did say I would. So somebody actually did contact me,

681
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: and here's the response they gave me. I did check

682
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: and it actually is part of their potential explanation seems

683
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: to make sense, is because it said ro plant reverse

684
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 1: osmosis is like you know, it's like a water purification system.

685
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: They said that oro plant could be a reference to

686
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: reverse osmos. That's a potential innocent explanation. I'm fine with

687
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: innocent explanations, if you have innocent explanations for sulfuric acid

688
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: and ocean tunnels and what else. The de body decoys

689
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: and broken cameras and harder and early memos that are

690
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: drafted about deaths. I'm on about the.

691
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: Blurry orange image on our video missing minute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all those.

693
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm ready to present full context anytime, any day

694
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Speaker 1: that you would like. And yet and yet still to

695
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: this day, d o J. Look they're they're monitoring Thomas

696
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: Massey's Twitter feed with a magnifying glass. They know about

697
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: this early drafted memo. Where's your response? A routine we draft,

698
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, PR releases about all inmates debts.

699
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: I want to just know with like, we screwed up

700
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: the dates, Yeah, and.

701
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: In turn screwed up the day. I mean actually honestly,

702
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: like genuinely believable. But they won't even offer that nothing.

703
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: So this is the latest one. Okay, got it, Let's

704
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: continue B two, shall we? This is a very interesting one.

705
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: Epstein installed secret cameras with the help of quote handy

706
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: Russians love the British press and their spelling of pedophile.

707
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: Pedophile credit card statements obtained by the Telegraph corroborate purchases

708
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: of Surveillan's technology. Jeffrey Epstein ordered staff to install hidden

709
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: cameras in his home after being told quote the Russians

710
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: may come in handy, and they analyzed some of his

711
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: credit card statements specifically to basically back up this allegation,

712
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: both with the emails and the credit card what they.

713
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: Show emails in there too, where he talks about, Oh,

714
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: they're really tiny and I'm going to put them in

715
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: some Kleenex boxes listen to.

716
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: Epstein asked his pilot to buy three motion detecting hidden

717
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: cameras that record. That's a direct quote, okay, direct quote,

718
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: three motion detective hidden cameras that record. He also worked

719
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: as a technician in general handyman across Epstein's properties. In

720
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: an email on February five, twenty fourteen, he said he

721
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: had bought the cameras from a spy shop in Fort Lauderdale, Florida,

722
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: and was quote figuring out how they work as they speak.

723
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: On the same day as the hidden camera purchase. Epstein

724
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: received an email from someone else whose name was redacted.

725
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: Remember what we spoke about. If you want to put

726
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: cameras in the house, it will have to be very

727
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: discreetly done. The Russians may come in handy, okay, So

728
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: let's just start with that. So one of the core

729
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: claims of Epstein deniers is he never taped anyone and

730
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: never blackmailed anyone. There you go, one of the core

731
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: claims of Glene Maxwell. Remember everybody's forgotten this, but we've

732
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: already proven it incorrect. Ah, I built those houses from scratch.

733
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: There's no cameras anyway. Oh, except except all the photos.

734
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Speaker 1: It's actually not very good. I have a cold right now,

735
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: so I can't do the true posh British accent. But

736
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: you've got hidden cameras in the bedrooms. You got hidden

737
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: cameras everywhere else. She's a liar. She literally perjured herself

738
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: in that interview. It doesn't matter again, everybody just moves on.

739
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: But you've got mult you know, hidden cameras. Any of

740
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: the FBI in that She'll remember the twenty nineteen raid

741
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: of the Epstein property. They found all those DVD dis

742
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: CDs and all that stuff which was all labeled with

743
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: some of the people nobody ever heard about that. No,

744
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: no files on that one. Huh interesting, Maybe it'll be redacted.

745
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: You could maybe argue in it, what's the innocent explanation

746
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: that he'd like to tape himself, you know, having sex

747
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: and others?

748
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 6: Yeah?

749
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean if that's not all that innocent though,

750
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: if you're going to see, oh, I don't know, a

751
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: memorialized memo to yourself about STDs with Bill and Melinda Gates,

752
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: that seems pretty sketchy, don't you think? And so you

753
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: put this all together, and I mean, I don't know.

754
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: I just continue to think some of the most maximalist

755
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: conspiracy claims that have been made around this are basically

756
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: all just correct. And that's what I continue you know,

757
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: with the hidden cameras, the FBI's handling of the entire thing,

758
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: you would have to believe in competence, like to the

759
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: tenth power to come to the you know, I have reasonable,

760
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: the reasonable explanation that he just killed himself this entire time.

761
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: I just don't buy it.

762
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: We've got another billionaire two who is implicated here and

763
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 2: you know, caught dead to rights lying about the extent

764
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. This is Andrew Farcas,

765
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: who was not a figure out was particularly familiar with,

766
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: but he is, you know, I think part of this family.

767
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: Very wealthy. He was the campaign chairman for Andrew Cuomo

768
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 2: a number of times, so very you know, high level

769
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: in New York society. You could put this up on

770
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: the screen from the New York Times. They say that

771
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: the billionaire exchanged nearly two thousand emails with the sex

772
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 2: offender Jeffrey Ebste you know, for more than a decade,

773
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: revealing deeply personal thoughts about life, loneliness, and growing old.

774
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: Kept their relationship from his investors, apparently confident all the

775
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: links between Epstein himself, including the business they were partners

776
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 2: in and the trips he had made to visit mister

777
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: Epstein and jail, would never be disclosed. But the release

778
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: of three million additional pages of the Epstein files on

779
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: January thirty has made it clear that the billionaire in

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00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: the New York real estate mogul Andrew Farcas, had a

781
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: profound friendship with mister Epstein, who he called one of

782
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: the blessings in his life and one of the bravest.

783
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: Men I've ever known.

784
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: The relationship played out in the trading of deep confidences,

785
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: swapped introductions to powerful people and visits to mister Epstein's island.

786
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: The documents show and their business partnership was a mutually

787
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: beneficial real estate deal that helped mister Epstein save millions

788
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: of dollars in taxes. So not only were they close

789
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: friends exchanging thousands of emails visits to the island, they

790
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: were also business partners out there.

791
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: This, by the way, the tax thing, I still remain

792
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: think is bullshit, all right, because if you are a billionaire,

793
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: you have access to the wealth houses of Goldman, Sachs,

794
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: Deutsche and Morgan. Stand I mean, you are talking about

795
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: the best of the best of the best tax lawyers

796
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: in the world. Why do you need to hire a

797
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: basically illiterate, imbecile who can barely spell, and who from

798
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 1: all of his millions of emails, I have not found

799
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: one actual expert piece of tax advice beyond taking an

800
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: article written by an accountant and sending into his accountant

801
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: saying maybe we should try this. It's not tax advice.

802
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: I can absolutely guarantee you. I can only speculate again,

803
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: This is my own speculation based upon my review. I

804
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: think he was an expert at money laundering, and in

805
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: particular I'm talking about real money laundering on behalf of

806
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: the intelligence community, the CIA, and yes, also of the

807
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: ultra wealthy. Once you become very good at moving money

808
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: around to reduce your tax liability, that's not tax advice.

809
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: It's called fraud, all right. So like that's what I

810
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: think that he was.

811
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Speaker 2: Overall, had a very very high level criminal mind.

812
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Yes, insider trading. I mean this is and again teevens

813
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: to call it criminal is funny because it's not really

814
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: a crime. If you get away with it, well.

815
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: It's every elite in the entire world sanctions it and

816
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: is participating in the crime. Then guess what, I guess

817
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't really count. And I mean not just through

818
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: the insider trading and you know, parent money laundering, these

819
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: sorts of things, but the whole way. He would look

820
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: at the world, see a country failing or going to

821
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: war and think like, oh, this is my opportunity to profit,

822
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: realizing you know, talking to talking to wealthy, powerful people

823
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: and saying, look this chaos, this collapse, this is good

824
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: for us. This is how we consolidate even more wealth,

825
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: even more power. This game is easy, Like that's the

826
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: type of thinking that, yes, he was very good at

827
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: that type of thinking. Any sort of intricate tax planning,

828
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: financial advice. No, that's not what was fundamentally going on here.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right. So look again, I'm not alleging in any

830
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: way that mister Farcas was engaging in that type of behavior.

831
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: This is purely an opinion on mister Epstein himself. So

832
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: let's continue, shall we, whenever it comes to some of

833
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: the new releases. By the way, again, my great love

834
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: respect for the UK. God'd I love these people. This

835
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: is a full blown crisis. It may take down the monarchy,

836
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: and the monarchy must survive, and that's why the King

837
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: himself very willing to strip his own brother of titles,

838
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: completely throwing him under the bus. Let's go to the

839
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: next one and put this up here on the screen,

840
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: King Charles releasing a new statement profound concern and complete

841
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: cooperation with the police authorities over quote mister mount Batten

842
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: Windsor's conduct. That's how they refer to his very own brother.

843
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: While the specific claims are in question for mister mount

844
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: Batton Windsor to address. If we are approached by the

845
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: Thames Valley Police, we stand ready to support them as

846
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: you would expect. The Valley Police are confirmed it is

847
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: assessing now whether there are grounds to investigate a complaint

848
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: by a group which reported that Mount Batten Windsor is

849
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: suspected misconduct in public office and a breach of official secrets.

850
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: So I did talk a little bit about this yesterday,

851
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: but the details are actually really worth going into because

852
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: it connects back to the tax advice stuff I just

853
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: talked tax advice stuff I just talked about, and how

854
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 1: he really made his money. He's not a master trader,

855
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: insider insider trading. That's it. But by the way, that's

856
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: incredibly lucrative if you're friends with the wealthiest and most

857
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: powerful people in the world. So let's go to the

858
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: next one. Just to give you an example. The current

859
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: investigation in Britain is claims that the former Prince Andrew

860
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: shared sensitive reports with Epstein. So this is from a

861
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: November two thousand and tel email exchange that appeared to

862
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: show the Royal sharing quote visit reports after a Southeast

863
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: Asia trip. All right, so this focus is on some

864
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: emails that were provided, you know. In some of the

865
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: some of the release, the email chain quote appears to

866
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: show the former Prince forwarding Epstein visit reports from Vietnam, Singapore,

867
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: Hong Kong, and shen Jen, and one email who was

868
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: signed as a special advisor, appeared to contain an attached

869
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: document file and was forwarded to Epstein within five minutes

870
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: of receipt. Now, all of these documents appear to basically

871
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: be like summaries either of the Prince this visit. But

872
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: the reason why it's important is that he was acting

873
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: as the Trade Advisor of the UK at the time,

874
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: So in multiple of these emails, they tell Epstein that

875
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: he was planning trips to various different countries, what he

876
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: was doing and potentially what he saw. This is information,

877
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: right for a prince he gets to probably meet with

878
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: some of the you know, very high level officials, other

879
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: heads of state, you know, and gets to meet with

880
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: local executives and then forward some of that information along.

881
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: This would be a breach obviously acting in his official duties.

882
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Not nearly as bad as oh, I don't know, Lord

883
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: Mandelsson being like, hey, we're going to bail out the government,

884
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: just so you know, just so you can go ahead

885
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: and trade on that information and tip off Jamie Diamond

886
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: so that he can get involved in this entire thing.

887
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: But it's still scandalous, and it just shows this is

888
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: information is currency. Information at the highest levels. It is

889
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, enables them to manipulate and work the world

890
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: in whatever way that they possibly want. And you could

891
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: this is again the smallest, tiniest glimpse. I still think

892
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: it's just like the eye of the in terms of

893
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: what really is out there.

894
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right.

895
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: And I mean, it's just so wild to me that

896
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: the first instinct of like Mandelssohn when they're deliberating about

897
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: how to respond to the financial crisis is like, I

898
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: got some confidential info.

899
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: Let me send it to Jeffrey Epstein.

900
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: That was like the first instinct there, allegedly, and you know,

901
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: being investigated currently, you also found soccer some more information

902
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: about potential epstein Cia ties of his former bodyguard.

903
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: That's right, I'll tell you this. I was not aware.

904
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 1: I'm pretty deep, and I really I'm ashamed to say

905
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: I was not aware of this. Lore. Let's go and

906
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: put this up here on the screen. Credit to Tarru

907
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: Palmieri we've talked to her before. She has her own substack.

908
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: Can go and subscribe to it if you're interested. She

909
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: also is very similar background. You know, she was part

910
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: of the mainstream media. She went independent and she actually

911
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: did a pretty deep dive in the Epstein case years

912
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: ago when it was not all that popular. So I

913
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: really trust her legit reporter for sure, exactly. That's what

914
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: anybody who came to this before it was popular. Those

915
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: are the people I respect. These are like the Julie

916
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: cape Tea Palmieri's and others. So here's what she said.

917
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: She said quote when a rare glimpse inside of Epstein's

918
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: network of protection from a chilling warning to a secret

919
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: trip to Langley, and why the government kept victims in

920
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: the dark. And so this was apparently traces back to

921
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: an interview that she did with Brad Edwards. He was

922
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: a lawyer for Epstein's victims. It is a conversation that

923
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: Edwards had with Epstein's bodyguard of five years, Igor Zenoviev,

924
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: who warned him to back off quote because of Epstein's

925
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: shadowy connections to the US government. Zenoviev said, you don't

926
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: know who you're messing with. You need to be really careful.

927
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: You are on Jeffrey's radar, and somebody that Jeffrey pays

928
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: a lot of attention to, which is not good. You

929
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: don't want to be on his radar. End quote. I said,

930
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: give me some examples, who am I messing with? Edwards recalled,

931
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: and that's when he looked across the table and whispered

932
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: three letters C, I, A. And he talks actually about

933
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: how while Epstein was serving his two thousand and eighth sentence,

934
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: how he actually was sent there on multiple information trips,

935
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: like to pick up information from Langley. He didn't seem

936
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: to fully explain some of this what was going on.

937
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: And again this is kind of hearsay. It's Brad, you know,

938
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: the lawyer for the victims, who's talking away half of

939
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: a conversation he had with Zenoviev. But I mean, nonetheless,

940
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: that is very extraordinary. I do believe that Tara did

941
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: either foya or call the CIA press office. I quote,

942
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: have not received any confirmation or denial of these mysterious

943
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: visits in two thousand and eight. But nonetheless, it does

944
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: back up like you have a bodyguard basically warning off

945
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: a lawyer. Here's the thing, whether it's true or not,

946
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: there was enough of there at least for him to

947
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: be credibly trying to make that threat of like, hey,

948
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: you're messing with some very powerful people when you're getting

949
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: involved here. And then all of these talks about trips

950
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: to Langley, Virginia back in two thousand and eight. So

951
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: again I was not aware of this particular part of

952
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: Epstein lore. And just add you know, another feather in

953
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: the cap. Yeah for the case.

954
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: Well, we also have more pieces that sort of fill

955
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: out the way that he schmoozed politicians to get whatever

956
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: he needed from them in the Virgin Islands in particular.

957
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: There needs to be more explanation exploration with regard to

958
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: New Mexico as well, because I do think the ranch

959
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: is and undercovered part of the story. Let's put this

960
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: up on the screen. This is backed up by some

961
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: of the emails. So this is from fifty shades away.

962
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: By the way, shout out to him. He's been doing

963
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: a good job going through files and we've used a

964
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: bunch of the stuff that he's pulled here. Epstein was

965
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: paying tuition for the children of the Governor of the

966
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: US Virgin Islands, the former first Lady of the US

967
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: Virgin Islands and Epstein multiple tuition in voices.

968
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: I mean goes on to say, are these bribes?

969
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: Why they turned a blind eye to his many crimes

970
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: and gave him huge tax breaks?

971
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: And you can see the email here.

972
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, Seaton Hall confirmed that these tuition

973
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: payments were in fact made for the children of the

974
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: then governor of the US Virgin Islands. So you know,

975
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: in addition to campaign contributions that wasn't enough, he's giving

976
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: personal financial park site.

977
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: I don't worry your.

978
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: Kid's tuition, college tuition at this expensive university. I got

979
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 2: you covered, not a problem. And then you know he's

980
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: left alone to do whatever he wants, and you know,

981
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: have all sorts of benefits there in the Virgin Islands,

982
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: and you know they just look the other way because

983
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: they're in on the benefits from him.

984
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: I think that Virgin You know, you're very right about

985
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: New Mexico. Because Bill Richardson is dead. We don't talk

986
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: about it enough. He was deeply linked with Epstein, like

987
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: deep deep and Richardson was also part of the Clinton

988
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: cup all. Don't forget that. You know, he was tight

989
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: in the Clinton machine. Him and Epstein multiple visits and

990
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: all that, and you're talking about the New Mexico ranch

991
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: any place he seemed to own property he or spent

992
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: a lot of time and was committing some of his crimes.

993
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: He was in with the those local elites who and

994
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: look it kind of makes sense. New Mexico no offense.

995
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: But you know, not exactly an economic powerhouse. So when

996
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: you have a very rich person who is there, I

997
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: can pull a lot of strings and has a lot

998
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: of influence. Yes, the governor is going to get in

999
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: with I mean the Virgin Islands the same thing. Sure

1000
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: they have a lot of tourism, but you know this

1001
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: ultra wealthy man, he owns part of it. He's very wealthy.

1002
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: He's got all these political connections. He's drafting campaign ads

1003
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: for Bill Clinton. He's making sure that all of these

1004
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: wealthy people are coming too the island. Yeah, he gets

1005
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: a little bit involved here and finances a few things

1006
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: at the campaign level. It's probably not an extraordinarily expensive race.

1007
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: And then what do they do if they protect him,

1008
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: which is exactly what happened after he died and you

1009
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: had the initial lawsuit which was dismissed by the very

1010
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: governor who Epstein was funding. From the very beginning, so

1011
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: you can see exactly like, this is how you build

1012
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: and buy political favors. He's smaller jurisdiction where there's not

1013
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: as many people and they spend a decent amount of money.

1014
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: You build up some social cachet, and boom, this is

1015
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: how it all gets done. So very last thing we

1016
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: want to put up here B nine again, not to

1017
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: forget some of the creep behavior here from redacted to Epstein.

1018
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: I'll find a girl for you this time, I promise.

1019
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: I'm so bitter now I'll do anything. Dot dot dot

1020
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: Europe would be better to find little girl. Okay, all right,

1021
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: let's always remember what we're dealing with.

1022
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm glad, so glad our government is protect

1023
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: protecting whoever it was that.

1024
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: That's right exactly again, in violation of the law. That's

1025
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: a victim. You're gonna tell me that's a victim right

1026
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: or there? And if there's national security information, yeah, I

1027
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: think we should probably know if that's a foreign leader

1028
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: or somebody who is like that. Great