WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 6

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,

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<v Speaker 1>where two.

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<v Speaker 2>Longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest sports stories

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<v Speaker 2>of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst. Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Not So Fast, Perloff and Pabst. Paul, a

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<v Speaker 3>full weekend of college football. I know you were in heaven.

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<v Speaker 4>Five days of college football, a lot of couch time,

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of remotes.

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<v Speaker 3>It was perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>There was drama in places we didn't expect drama. We

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<v Speaker 4>thought LSU-Clemson would be the feature game that we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about for days, not so fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we talked about a ton of games coming this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't talk that much about Michigan, Western Michigan, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of all we've been talking about since then.

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<v Speaker 3>If you watch the Dan Patrick show, there was so

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<v Speaker 3>much analysis on it. It's a layered topic, Paul, but

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<v Speaker 3>take me back to Saturday night. What was your reaction

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<v Speaker 3>in real time when Michigan won on the Hail Mary?

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<v Speaker 4>So you're watching at home. I'm watching in a big

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<v Speaker 4>bar where there's TVs everywhere, so you can't really hear

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on. And Western Michigan is staying in that

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<v Speaker 4>game the whole way, and they force Michigan to be

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<v Speaker 4>in a do-or-die situation with a Hail Mary.

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<v Speaker 5>Underwood throws the ball. Ball goes out of bounds. Zeros.

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<v Speaker 4>The refs, it's over, Johnny. And they start running on

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<v Speaker 4>the field. And so, like, Michigan fans at the bars

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<v Speaker 4>that were, like, crying in their beer, and other people

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<v Speaker 4>were cheering because Western Michigan is just a great story.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, it's over.

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<v Speaker 3>There's zeros.

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<v Speaker 4>Why wouldn't you celebrate? I'll be on the way back

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<v Speaker 4>to Kalamazoo. But then there just seemed to be this pause.

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<v Speaker 4>You see Kyle Whittingham of Michigan talking to the refs.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the refs are huddling. And whenever refs are huddling,

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<v Speaker 4>it's never.

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<v Speaker 5>Good for the other team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I went straight to anger. I'll be honest. I

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<v Speaker 3>was very frustrated because I was rooting for the Cinderella.

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<v Speaker 3>I was rooting for Western Michigan. I thought Michigan was

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<v Speaker 3>disappointing from the get-go. I did not like the way

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<v Speaker 3>their offense was moving. So I was rooting for them,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, this is great. Got to stay

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<v Speaker 3>up and watch this awesome upset. And I felt robbed,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't even go to Western Michigan.

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<v Speaker 4>So they start lining up for the second Hail Mary.

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<v Speaker 4>It almost felt like a kicker. You know, they call

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<v Speaker 4>timeout to freeze them, and he gets a second look

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<v Speaker 4>at it. Bryce Underwood got a second look and threw

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<v Speaker 4>it to the front of the end zone. And before

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<v Speaker 4>the ball even came up, we're looking at each other,

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<v Speaker 4>the friends watching the game. Oh, of course Michigan's going

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<v Speaker 4>to win it here after this controversy. Of course he

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<v Speaker 4>hits the guy in the front end, and it's over.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's kind of why I'm giving the Big

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<v Speaker 3>Ten a slight pass here, Paul, because it was a

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<v Speaker 3>perfect storm. How many times have we seen this where

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<v Speaker 3>there was an argument over one second? And what are

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<v Speaker 3>the odds of you hitting the Hail Mary? Even with

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<v Speaker 3>the mulligan, it's still a very low percentage play.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think what still is outstanding to people is

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<v Speaker 4>why the replay was called for in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>Did Kyle Whittingham call for it? I think people at

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<v Speaker 4>home didn't even know there's two clocks in college football.

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<v Speaker 4>I think everyone knows the refs keep backup time. I

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<v Speaker 4>always thought that was a backup plan in case the

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<v Speaker 4>scoreboard went down. I thought NBC or ESPN or ABC

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<v Speaker 4>controlled the time, and what you saw on the field

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<v Speaker 4>was it.

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<v Speaker 3>So what would your solution be if this case comes

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<v Speaker 3>up again?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I guess you would say what happens on the

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<v Speaker 4>field is the final answer, and you have to get

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<v Speaker 4>it dialed in the two clocks before the game ends

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<v Speaker 4>because parsing through that and the guy's foot on the

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<v Speaker 4>back line, it doesn't match what people see at home.

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<v Speaker 4>And when people at home see that, the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 4>office was involved in the replay. This wasn't a Big

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<v Speaker 4>Ten on Big Ten crime. This is Western Michigan. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a once-in-a-lifetime win that felt like it was taken

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<v Speaker 4>from them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I saw Fox's Mike Pereira, of course, officiating experts,

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<v Speaker 3>say that in the NFL, if this comes up, you

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<v Speaker 3>always go to the TV copy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, I hope the Big Ten learned, go

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<v Speaker 3>to whatever the TV says, because people want to see

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<v Speaker 3>what's actually happening. You can't have, quote-unquote, a secret clock.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a secret clock, but you have to defer...

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<v Speaker 3>to the TV clock, so next time this happens, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>NBC has, that should be it.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and what happened all night, at least on social

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<v Speaker 4>media and people who watch college football and live on

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<v Speaker 4>social media, they're waiting for the Big Ten statement.

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<v Speaker 5>And the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 4>Statement came out a couple hours later, and it came

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<v Speaker 4>out in this weird font that looked like something from

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<v Speaker 4>Stranger Things, and it didn't satisfy anyone's curiosity because it

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<v Speaker 4>felt like the Big Ten was getting their house in

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<v Speaker 4>order for this statement. But the average fan thinks that

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<v Speaker 4>that game was stolen. Look at that font there, Perloff.

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<v Speaker 4>That looks like a book from the 80s, like a

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<v Speaker 4>crime novel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for some reason, the statement didn't really help the

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<v Speaker 3>Big Ten. Now, let me ask you this question, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>When you look at all of college football, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of conferences. It's so different from the NFL where

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<v Speaker 3>everything comes through one office. I'm kind of wondering, is

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<v Speaker 3>this a growing pain of college football where you see NIL? Now,

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<v Speaker 3>you get a Western Michigan against a Michigan. That's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be competitive. Now you have all these different conferences

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<v Speaker 3>and all these different networks. Do they need to really

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<v Speaker 3>solidify this and have a plan going forward?

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<v Speaker 5>That's a bigger picture.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no unifying body in college football. The NCAA

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't oversee the clocks. It's like the conference and the networks,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's different from game to game.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm setting you up to be college football czar here, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>I say everything has to come under one roof. So

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<v Speaker 3>in situations like this, the Big Ten doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 3>different thing than the ACC and the SEC. ACC has

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<v Speaker 3>the immediate. You get to hear the officials now. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that transparency is the number one thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>there are a lot of lessons out of this. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot has to be different next time.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a very interesting postgame. The Western Michigan head coach,

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't go scorched earth. He said, I'll let the

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<v Speaker 4>others fight my battle for me. But it was also

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<v Speaker 4>interesting because Western Michigan got paid $ 1. 5 million to be there.

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<v Speaker 4>They're coming back to Michigan in 2029. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>Michigan's ever going to Kalamazoo to play home and home.

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<v Speaker 4>But it felt like one of those moments that's gone forever.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. But can a loss be a win in

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<v Speaker 3>the sense that when they're picking the group of five

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<v Speaker 3>playoff teams, And if Western Michigan runs the table, they

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<v Speaker 3>have Boise on September 26th ball, who is a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people's favorite to get that spot. If Western Michigan

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<v Speaker 3>runs the table. Will everybody count this as a win?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And the other way, this is a horrible win for Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>This might as well have been a loss.

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<v Speaker 3>This is worse than a loss.

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<v Speaker 5>Boise had a better week than Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, Michigan's at a tie for that last playoff spot.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the committee's going to remember back in the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning of September and say, no, we're not letting them

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<v Speaker 3>get away with anything. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>You could win and still lose in college football. A

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<v Speaker 4>lot more games to chop up. The game we thought

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<v Speaker 4>was going to be a game of the weekend, LSU

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<v Speaker 4>versus Clemson. That was a no-show. Back in the day

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<v Speaker 4>when someone didn't show up for work, a no-call, no-show.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what happens with Clemson football. At no point did

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<v Speaker 4>that feel like a football game. And LSU stepped on

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<v Speaker 4>the gas. They didn't pump the brakes in any way.

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<v Speaker 4>Sam Levitt, the new quarterback that transferred from Arizona State,

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<v Speaker 4>he did a little more running than passing, but he

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<v Speaker 4>looked fantastic. And that was a 10-point spread. That was

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<v Speaker 4>considered a nice game.

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<v Speaker 3>A possible game.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was non-competitive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, LSU outrushed them 309-40. That's not good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what you expect when Michigan plays a MAAC team.

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<v Speaker 3>This made the ACC and Clemson look like a Bush

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<v Speaker 3>League conference compared to the SEC. We call this on Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>I lean more towards you've got to use the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to use the NIL. I think Lane Kiffin

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<v Speaker 3>made an emphatic statement with this win.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Lane Kiffin made a statement at halftime. He was

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<v Speaker 4>rallying the troops, and he didn't step off the gas

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<v Speaker 4>in any way. Lane Kiffin, even in the pregame, he's

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<v Speaker 4>sampling Morgan Wallen with his walkout.

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<v Speaker 5>And he had Libby.

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<v Speaker 4>Dunn and Theo Vaughn as his walkout crew when he's

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<v Speaker 4>walking through the Tiger fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean, you said it, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>last week. You've got to embrace the bad guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>He's stepping into it.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, does this say more about Clemson going forward

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<v Speaker 4>or LSU going forward?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I think it says more about Clemson, as in

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<v Speaker 3>we may be done with Davos.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you calling the season?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm calling the season. Is that allowed?

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<v Speaker 4>We said on Not So Fast you never say it's

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<v Speaker 4>over before it's over, but you may be right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, listen, they had a lot of pro players

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<v Speaker 3>last year and didn't win anything. All those pro players

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<v Speaker 3>are gone. They did not replace them. How are they

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<v Speaker 3>going to get better? This was embarrassing. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>hate to say one loss counts for more than one loss,

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<v Speaker 3>but in this case, you're not what your record says.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a bad, bad 0-1.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't aspire to be in the pinstripe bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>No offense if you're Clemson football. And I think in

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<v Speaker 4>two weeks, Clemson versus UNC in the buyout bowl with

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Belichick.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh! Yeah, I mean, that's a must-win. You don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to say must-win ever. That's another thing. So we're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, is it over and must-win in the first month,

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<v Speaker 3>and I say yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's still technically summer.

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<v Speaker 4>The other game, Boise versus Oregon, that was a better

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<v Speaker 4>game than you expected. We actually said on Not So Fast,

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<v Speaker 4>don't sleep on Boise.

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<v Speaker 5>They're always good.

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<v Speaker 4>But Oregon football in the second half, buzzsaw. Dante Moore,

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<v Speaker 4>the second half looked like real Oregon.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first half was scary, though. Yeah. Because a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people picked them to win the title. I was

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<v Speaker 3>leaning towards them for the title. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw some vulnerability. I know what you're talking about. Dante

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<v Speaker 3>Moore was awesome in the second half. But did you

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<v Speaker 3>see a national championship team that can go toe-to-toe with

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio State, go toe-to-toe with Indiana?

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<v Speaker 4>In the second half I did. By the way, those

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<v Speaker 4>uniforms are first ballot. Just want to throw that in there.

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<v Speaker 4>But the second half, it's like they outlasted them and

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<v Speaker 4>out-talented them in the second half.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I actually walked away with a little different vibe

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<v Speaker 3>from this one, where I said to myself, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't pick Oregon to win it all.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get to some NFL news. We're a

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<v Speaker 4>day away. A little NFL news over the weekend. It's

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<v Speaker 4>mostly college football, but some NFL news. The Falcons named

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<v Speaker 4>Tua the starter. If this is health-related with Pennix, your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's not health-related, your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>So Michael Pennix said that he wasn't quite 100%. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's totally health-related because there's no upside with Tua.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw Tua played a little bit better in preseason

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<v Speaker 3>week three, but he really struggled. He was down in

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<v Speaker 3>Miami with a great offense, and he was good. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a number that surprised me. He's 44-32 as a

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<v Speaker 3>starter in the NFL. That's good. When Tua plays and

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<v Speaker 3>he's healthy, he's been productive.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like we've seen his best work in 23

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<v Speaker 4>and 24.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know what you're saying. So Tua is an

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<v Speaker 3>insurance policy for Penix, and they had to go to

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<v Speaker 3>it because Penix is not ready. You have to see

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<v Speaker 3>what you've got in Penix.

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<v Speaker 4>It does seem like that, that Tua is in a

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<v Speaker 4>holding pattern, like a high-end holding pattern quarterback. But you

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<v Speaker 4>drafted Penix high in the draft. You changed the whole

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<v Speaker 4>direction of your franchise. And if you don't give Penix

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<v Speaker 4>a really good look, 10, 12, 13 games. Why did

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<v Speaker 4>you draft him in the first place?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like anything Atlanta's done team-building-wise. You know, they

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<v Speaker 3>kept taking skilled position players. They took Bijan, Drake, London,

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle Pitts, and then Michael Penix. They have a very

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<v Speaker 3>old offensive line that's going to be injury-prone. They haven't

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<v Speaker 3>really built a tough defense. So I think that this

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<v Speaker 3>is not a good situation anywhere around. And even though

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<v Speaker 3>Penix is young, Paul, they might be watching college football

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturdays like us and thinking– That's our future.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what drives me crazy about the Falcons

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<v Speaker 4>is you need 10 wins and you're hosting a playoff game.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I mean, you may need nine wins in

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<v Speaker 5>that division to host a playoff game. Their schedule, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not the hardest in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got a lot of winnable games there, but it

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<v Speaker 4>always feels like the Falcons are one step away from being,

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<v Speaker 4>I like them.

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<v Speaker 5>I love them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You say 10 wins. We've been waiting for this

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<v Speaker 3>team to get 10 wins in the last few years.

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<v Speaker 3>I picked the Falcons almost every year. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why they're going to get the 10 wins now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Unfortunately, 8-9 will also get you there in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFC South. All right, coming up, we'll stick with

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL. Have Josh Allen and other soon-to-be 30-year-old quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 3>already lost their best chance to win a Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 3>We'll explain next on Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 4>Pearl, it's time for the midday pick-me-up. We all love

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<v Speaker 4>this one from the weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>A little baseball. Look at the Toronto fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, look at this.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys, let's team up. We can do this. A little help,

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<v Speaker 5>a little help, a little help. And there we have it.

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<v Speaker 3>You have no idea how many times this hit my

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<v Speaker 3>social media feed, Paul, and I don't know what that

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<v Speaker 3>says about me. I've seen this clip at least a

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<v Speaker 3>thousand times.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, is it the highlight of Toronto season?

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<v Speaker 7>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 4>But awesome way to see the fans working together. We

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<v Speaker 4>love that on Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 5>That was great. Midday Pick Me Up, we always love that.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get to it. It's time for Warm Takes.

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<v Speaker 4>You kids at home, we don't want you getting burned.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a little warm stuff from the college football.

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<v Speaker 5>Weekend and NFL as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a thing we like to call the Sept Heisman

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<v Speaker 4>on the Dan Patrick Show and here on Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a person who dominates college football in September. The

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<v Speaker 4>Sept Heisman rarely wins the Heisman Trophy because they peak

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<v Speaker 4>too early. Your guy, Perloff, Malachi Toney, you called this

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<v Speaker 4>on Friday on Not So Fast, who's your Heisman pick.

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<v Speaker 4>He dominated Stanford the other day, and that's saying it light.

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve catches over 200 yards, three touchdowns. He was the

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<v Speaker 4>focal point. He's one of those guys you can't take

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<v Speaker 4>your eyes off of. So he is in great shape

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<v Speaker 4>for the Heisman. Jeremiah Smith, the wide receiver at Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 4>also dominated week one. Jeremiah Smith looks great. Everyone knows

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<v Speaker 4>him already. They've got brand recognition based off last year

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<v Speaker 4>and Jeremiah Smith a couple years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone knows this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really, really tough to win the Heisman in September.

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<v Speaker 4>It's almost technically impossible because the voting is in December.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think it's so refreshing to have two wide

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<v Speaker 4>receivers battling because historically this doesn't happen. The last pure

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<v Speaker 4>wide receiver to win the Heisman was Deontay Smith, the

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<v Speaker 4>Bama a few years ago. Remember, he came out of

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<v Speaker 4>nowhere because of the Jalen Waddell injury. Remember, he broke

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<v Speaker 4>his ankle. But two wide receivers. Desmond Howard won it

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<v Speaker 4>more than a generation ago, but he had to use

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<v Speaker 4>return stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Look where we are.

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<v Speaker 4>Smith is in the mix. Malachi Toney is in the mix. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>will they split votes with Julian Sayen and Mensah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that can happen. But two wide receivers in the mix

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<v Speaker 4>in September, I'm all about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. You know, there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks in the mix, too, so maybe those guys split

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<v Speaker 3>their vote. Malachi Toney, in the first drive, I ran

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<v Speaker 3>straight to the betting app and I'm like, I'm putting

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<v Speaker 3>even more on him for the Heisman.

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<v Speaker 5>That was your pick on Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he caught three of the four, three of the

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<v Speaker 3>first four plays were Malachi Toney. Actually, Paul, I understand

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<v Speaker 3>we have some sound of me on Malachi Toney. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going wide receiver, do everything, man. Malachi Toney out of

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<v Speaker 3>University of Miami. I think he's still 18 years old,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's the most exciting player in the country. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that team is going to be unbelievable. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the offense is going to run through him That's like.

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<v Speaker 5>Going third person. Not so fast, Perloff.

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<v Speaker 4>You setting up your own callback for your thing. I

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<v Speaker 4>tried to give you credit three minutes ago, and you

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<v Speaker 4>still brought back the clip.

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<v Speaker 5>Proud of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Malachi Toney, by the way, is almost a health concern

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of the ACC. I swear, Stanford DBs,

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<v Speaker 3>about three of them broke their ankles trying to keep

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<v Speaker 3>with this guy.

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<v Speaker 5>They have a good athletic department, though.

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<v Speaker 3>You knew he was coming, and you could not stop

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<v Speaker 3>him in any way.

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<v Speaker 4>It reminds me of Randy Moss in college. Remember Tavon

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<v Speaker 4>Austin at West Virginia?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>We know we can't stop him. Why bother trying?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was awesome. Okay, my warm takes on another

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<v Speaker 3>awesome college football player, Trinidad Chambliss, quarterback Ole Miss. Ole

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<v Speaker 3>Miss with a tough, hard-fought win over Louisville. Now, Trinidad Chambliss...

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<v Speaker 3>is not necessarily a first-round draft prospect. And you know

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a Moneyball guy, Paul. Yes. You know, I love

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<v Speaker 3>my analytics. I've seen Moneyball with Brad Pitt at least

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<v Speaker 3>five times. I identify more with Jonah Hill than Brad Pitt. Shocker.

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<v Speaker 3>From a look standpoint. Now, all the Moneyball reasons say

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<v Speaker 3>that you do not take Trinidad Chambliss high. He's 24,

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<v Speaker 3>first of all, and he's just a skunch below six feet.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're talking Kyler Murray, taller than Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson—

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of that vein of quarterback. And usually that is

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<v Speaker 3>tough because you can't see over the line and you

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<v Speaker 3>have to block a certain way. I don't care. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care about any of the money ball stuff. The

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<v Speaker 3>way the ball came off his hand was incredible. His

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<v Speaker 3>long passes, especially in the second half where he just dominated,

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<v Speaker 3>you could just eyeball this guy and say that's an

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<v Speaker 3>NFL quarterback. Not only is he probably, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>say it, the best quarterback in college football, he's so clutch.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just explosive. The ball comes off like fire, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not an analytic. That is Perloff's eyeballs. I

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<v Speaker 3>love what I'm seeing out of Trinidad Chambliss, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's going a lot higher in the draft than

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<v Speaker 3>we thought.

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<v Speaker 4>This is you going against the grain on yourself because

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<v Speaker 4>you're notoriously heightest when it comes to quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah. I didn't like Kyler Murray at the top

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<v Speaker 3>of the draft. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>If he was two inches, three inches taller, you may have.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll give you my comp for him. Baker Mayfield. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, about the same size. Hard to deal with.

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<v Speaker 5>Trinidad Chambliss is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's one of those guys where he'll probably

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<v Speaker 4>go like top five picks of the second round.

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<v Speaker 3>No, show bet. I think he gets in the first round.

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<v Speaker 5>Show bet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that some team is going to ignore

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<v Speaker 3>the analytics, ignore the numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep it friendly?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's keep it friendly. I say Trinidad Chambliss is

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<v Speaker 3>a first-round pick.

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<v Speaker 5>20 bucks on Trinidad Chambliss? Put that down, Scotty.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get to my next warm take here.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go back to Western Michigan versus Michigan.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody's necessarily rooting for or against Michigan or for or

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<v Speaker 4>against Western Michigan, but when you see the end of

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<v Speaker 4>that game and you see Western Michigan, a directional school

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<v Speaker 4>about to take down Michigan, the big house, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to start rooting for them because you're not rooting for them.

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<v Speaker 4>You're rooting for the story. And when this happened right here,

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<v Speaker 4>you think it's over. And you think, I just saw

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<v Speaker 4>one of the biggest upsets in recent or all-time college

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<v Speaker 4>football history. On this show Friday, I think we talked to,

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<v Speaker 4>on Thursday, we talked to Nicole Auerbach about the Appalachian

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<v Speaker 4>State win over Michigan a generation ago.

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<v Speaker 5>This was that.

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<v Speaker 4>This was this generation's version of that. And it got

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<v Speaker 4>taken away. And whatever you think of the clock and

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<v Speaker 4>the Big Ten and whoever took this away, Sports fans

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<v Speaker 4>were bothered and bummed. I was with two of my

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<v Speaker 4>friends watching the game. And when the ruling happened and

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<v Speaker 4>Western Michigan lost, my buddy Phil, who's always negative, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, said, can we just go home? He didn't

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<v Speaker 4>go to Western Michigan. He's not from Kalamazoo. He wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to call it a night because that's how bummed he were.

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<v Speaker 4>I think as sports fans, we were sports bummed by

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<v Speaker 4>that call because a moment, a great moment was taken

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<v Speaker 4>away for us.

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<v Speaker 5>And we live for those moments.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, It didn't feel like Appalachian State in the

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<v Speaker 3>sense that you could tell these teams were evenly matched.

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<v Speaker 5>Even-ish.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we didn't see it coming. It didn't feel David

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<v Speaker 3>Goliath to me. I think Michigan's about to have a very,

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<v Speaker 3>very long season. If Michigan had gone 3-9 and Western

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan had won that game, would it be remembered as

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<v Speaker 3>David versus Goliath? I'm not so sure.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the moment, though.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a Hail Mary, Western Michigan directional school. That's

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<v Speaker 4>not Appalachian State. If you're at Western Michigan, you could

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<v Speaker 4>just roll into Ann Arbor any day and just go scoreboard.

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<v Speaker 4>For three years until they play again. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 4>at this guy. It was taken away from him. And

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<v Speaker 4>you're never getting this chance again. I know you play there,

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<v Speaker 4>Western Michigan, three years. But unless you're a freshman, no chance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, directional. It's not the one where J.J. Watt and

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<v Speaker 3>Antonio Brown went.

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<v Speaker 5>Central Michigan. That's my Chippewas.

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<v Speaker 3>That's your Chippewas. Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going back to the NFL for my next warm take.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot believe this. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Burrow all turned 30 this year, Paul, or this season. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>none of them have won the Super Bowl. Burrow, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>got to the Super Bowl. I think it's getting late

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<v Speaker 3>early for these three quarterbacks. I mean, they are good enough, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>to win a Super Bowl. But if they don't do

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<v Speaker 3>it this year, then I think you're going to start

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<v Speaker 3>to hear a lot of noise in Cincinnati, Buffalo, and

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<v Speaker 3>believe it or not, Baltimore. They're good enough quarterbacks to

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<v Speaker 3>make the Super Bowl, but is the team around them

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<v Speaker 3>good enough? Now, Cincinnati spent a lot to fix their defense,

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<v Speaker 3>puts even more pressure on Joe Burrow. Buffalo fires their coach,

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<v Speaker 3>brings in a new coach who is Josh Allen's guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Pressure there. And, of course, Baltimore, the odds are they're

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<v Speaker 3>second in Super Bowl odds. They should be a Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl team. Paul, I am worried that if these teams

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<v Speaker 3>do not win, we're going to start to see those

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<v Speaker 3>three quarterbacks talking about maybe I have to pull Matthew Stafford.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I have to go to another team to win

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<v Speaker 3>the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>That I could see, and that's a pretty warm take

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<v Speaker 4>that they may have to end their career elsewhere. You

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<v Speaker 4>look at it, if you think these guys have six

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<v Speaker 4>more chances, really, realistically, and they have to get past

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<v Speaker 4>each other and then win the title. Joe Burrow is

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<v Speaker 4>that close, and if Aaron Donald didn't sack him, he

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<v Speaker 4>would have had his Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 5>But it does feel a little bit like 80s.

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<v Speaker 4>NBA, 90s NBA. There's no Michael Jordan. Mahomes isn't that anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you're Patrick Ewing, how many chances do you get?

0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.350
<v Speaker 4>If you're Barkley, you had one chance. If you're Carl Malone,

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<v Speaker 4>you had your chance. You may only get one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, also, there's some quarterbacks coming up. Caleb Williams, maybe. Obviously,

0:19:17.530 --> 0:19:20.290
<v Speaker 3>Drake Maywood, he did last year. Bo Nix. Bo Nix.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a great draft class coming in next year.

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<v Speaker 3>So there could be a Tim Duncan. Think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim Duncan came in 99 post-Jordan, and all those guys

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<v Speaker 3>didn't win because then they had to deal with the Spurs.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, we are comping the heck out of this segment.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's have a little game time. We love

0:19:34.170 --> 0:19:36.210
<v Speaker 4>to play games here and not so fast. This one

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<v Speaker 4>is called Who Said It? We'll play the clip. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's football-related. That's the only hint I got from

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<v Speaker 4>the control room. Who said this, Pearl?

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a big.

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<v Speaker 4>Culture shock, coming to a place like this, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>a diss towards anyone else. but it's just different the

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<v Speaker 4>way Coach runs it.

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<v Speaker 5>Gotta be a new guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it the way Coach runs it up? Meaning Lane

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<v Speaker 3>Kiffin in LSU?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you going Sam Leavitt?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Sam Leavitt. I agree.

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<v Speaker 5>We're both Sam Leavitt, LSU quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go. You know, it's a big culture shock

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<v Speaker 3>coming to a place like this and That's not a

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<v Speaker 3>diss towards anyone else, but it's just different, right, the

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<v Speaker 3>way Coach runs it.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, Josh Hoover looks like a football guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He got hit in the first quarter, the new IU quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>and he did not go to the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 5>He pulled a J.J.

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<v Speaker 6>Watt.

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<v Speaker 5>If you get bloody, you stay with it.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're all bloody during a football game, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't go to the sidelines and wipe it off.

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<v Speaker 5>You miss that great shot. Look at that.

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<v Speaker 3>That is... Legendary. Yeah, it was early in the game, too,

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<v Speaker 3>and not a lot was going on. And then you

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<v Speaker 3>look over at Josh Hoover.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a ticky-tack face mask call, by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about? Oh, you're being sarcastic. He's

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<v Speaker 3>like the exorcist right there. Josh Hoover played pretty well,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way. Yes. He throws a pretty nice ball.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that was much of a challenge.

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<v Speaker 5>You poo-pooed Josh Hoover last month.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know. Well, listen, we do not know

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<v Speaker 3>what Indiana's going to be. You really couldn't tell on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's right about Signetti being different than Sonny Dykes

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<v Speaker 3>at TCU. I believe that Signetti, he's that coach. He's

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<v Speaker 3>like the Belichick of college football.

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<v Speaker 5>Nice comp.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, one more round of who said it. We're

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<v Speaker 4>both 0 for 1. Who said this, Perloff?

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Outside the building, our building, there can be a narrative

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<v Speaker 4>that it's easy, that college football is easy, and we

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<v Speaker 4>should steamroll teams.

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<v Speaker 5>The reality is a really good team with some really

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<v Speaker 5>good players.

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<v Speaker 3>I know this one. This is obvious. This is Oregon

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<v Speaker 3>coach Dan Lanning.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan Lanning's a good call.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't call up that. I'm going to go Ryan

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<v Speaker 4>Day just to be counter. Ryan Day of Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 5>What do we got?

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of this building, our building, there can be a

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<v Speaker 1>narrative that it's easy.

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<v Speaker 3>College football is easy and we should steamroll teams. The

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<v Speaker 3>reality is that's a really good Wisconsin team with some

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<v Speaker 3>really good players. I'm going to take credit for Dan

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<v Speaker 3>Lanning because that would have worked for him as well.

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<v Speaker 5>It would have.

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<v Speaker 4>We're both 0-2 in this game. We're playing pretty well,

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<v Speaker 4>but that is a little bit of C.J. Carr talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the win. Nice win defensively, not so much on offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, C.J. Carr, by the way, I had high expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got to pick it up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's got to pick it up, and he will.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got some games where he can easily pick it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up next, we will go to, oh, a little

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<v Speaker 4>AFC North. No, AFC East, NFC East breakdown, getting you

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<v Speaker 4>ready for the NFL season coming up tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 5>Stick around. This is Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 3>The Patriots run was great, but I can't act like

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't have the record that they had and I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't see what I've seen in the playoffs. Their schedule

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<v Speaker 3>was very weak. The weakest, actually. And then if we

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<v Speaker 3>look at how Drake may play in the playoffs, it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't great. By the way, if you weren't aware, New

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<v Speaker 3>England Patriots, Seattle Seahawks tomorrow on NBC. Cheers.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like Wayne's World product placement.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm going to watch that game. Yeah, why not?

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<v Speaker 5>Super Bowl rematch.

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl rematch. I just looked at it. I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 3>Seahawks at three and a half point favorites. It's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>what McCoy said. I don't think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>are taking the Patriots too seriously right now.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think people look at that as a team

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<v Speaker 4>that overachieved and they'll come back to earth a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>But we'll talk about that because we're going to get

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<v Speaker 5>to our previews. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>We have threat level, AFC East, NFC East. I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to set you up, Pearl. How threatening are these teams?

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<v Speaker 4>I know there's some that are maybe non-threatening. but I

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<v Speaker 4>guess some type of threat level that gives the people

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<v Speaker 4>some hope. Let's start with in the AFC East, the

0:23:25.500 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Miami Dolphins. How do you feel about the Dolphins plus

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<v Speaker 4>4,000 to win the Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there such a thing as a negative threat level?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, here's my favorite part of the Dolphins. This

0:23:34.740 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 3>is their wide receiving core depth chart. Malik Washington, Caleb Douglas,

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Tolbert, and Chris Bell.

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<v Speaker 5>You're making some of those names up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, Jalen Tolbert was barely a wide receiver three,

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<v Speaker 3>and now he might be a wide receiver one. This

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the most obvious tanks I've seen in

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<v Speaker 3>a long, long time. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't understand the tank job by them because

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<v Speaker 4>last year, there's Malik Willis.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to get to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Last year, they started trading Jalen Phillips and they did

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<v Speaker 4>that fire sale. But then the offseason, they spend a

0:24:01.420 --> 0:24:05.180
<v Speaker 4>medium amount of money on Malik Willis, who was really

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<v Speaker 4>good with the Packers. But you put him in position

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<v Speaker 4>to do what?

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<v Speaker 5>Succeed this year?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you'd give him a year-long tryout. For

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<v Speaker 3>some reason, maybe he will be the guy. Or at

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<v Speaker 3>the very least, he'd be a bridge quarterback where you

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<v Speaker 3>have him as a starter. You draft a guy in

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<v Speaker 3>the top five and have him sit behind Malik Willis.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought Malik Willis should have gone somewhere like the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're saying the Dolphins, they don't want to improve

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<v Speaker 4>this year.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no. Actually, I like Jeff Halfley, their new coach.

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<v Speaker 3>He seems like a real motivator.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a gap year.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a building year, and the worst thing they

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<v Speaker 3>could do is go 8-9 and miss out on, say,

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<v Speaker 3>Dante Moore or Arch Manning.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, the New York Jets, decent defense. Geno Smith is

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<v Speaker 4>their quarterback. It also feels gap year-ish.

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<v Speaker 5>Any threat level?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say it's more than the Dolphins, for sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but minimal. It's funny because there are some players there.

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<v Speaker 3>We both love wide receiver Garrett Wilson. David Bailey looks

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<v Speaker 3>very promising. You know, if Geno is in a clean pocket,

0:24:55.890 --> 0:24:57.710
<v Speaker 3>he will shred you. But the odds of him being

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<v Speaker 3>in a clean pocket consistently in here in New York

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<v Speaker 3>are low to me.

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<v Speaker 4>More likely that they win six games or Garrett Wilson

0:25:04.350 --> 0:25:05.790
<v Speaker 4>demands a trade before Thanksgiving.

0:25:06.900 --> 0:25:08.900
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Garrett Wilson knows. They must have talked

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 3>to Garrett Wilson and said, like, Geno's here for now.

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 3>Your quarterback of the future is playing college football.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's go to the New England Patriots. There's the Jets' schedule.

0:25:16.310 --> 0:25:19.150
<v Speaker 4>Titans, Green Bay, Detroit, and then it gets a little heavy.

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<v Speaker 4>They do with the Browns in there.

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<v Speaker 3>That says tank to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that says let's pack it up, Johnny. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>let's go to the New England Patriots. They make the

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl. Not a great showing in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Not the worst of all time. But they get a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a hall pass because no one expected them

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<v Speaker 4>to be there. Drake May was an MVP candidate right

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<v Speaker 4>to the end of the season. Do you look at

0:25:37.980 --> 0:25:41.540
<v Speaker 4>the Patriots as a dip or hold steady?

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:43.660
<v Speaker 3>I actually look at it. Now, they did add A.J. Brown,

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver, who's going to make Drake May.

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<v Speaker 5>They're better at that position.

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<v Speaker 3>They are better. They finally re-signed Christian Gonzalez. The schedule

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<v Speaker 3>is a lot harder. I view them, and tell me

0:25:53.250 --> 0:25:58.030
<v Speaker 3>if you follow this, as a 2000s Titans with Mike Vrabler, 2010.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a deep cut. Mike Vrabel was always good with

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<v Speaker 3>the Titans. They were always 11 wins, but they were

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<v Speaker 3>never threatening to win a season.

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<v Speaker 5>And they ran the ball a lot.

0:26:06.090 --> 0:26:08.190
<v Speaker 3>They ran the ball a lot. They played conservatively. Now,

0:26:08.230 --> 0:26:09.990
<v Speaker 3>last year, they did throw the ball around the yard,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's going to be harder against the schedule. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a ceiling to where this team can go.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're going to play hard for Vrabel. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think they're going to go back to the schedule.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that Patriots schedule there, Jets and Dolphins later

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<v Speaker 4>in the season, that could be one of those. We

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<v Speaker 4>have 10 wins, and we need those last two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, before that, though, there were some tough ones.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we kind of glazed past those.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Lions, Chargers, the Bills. Not to mention, this

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.660
<v Speaker 3>is a tough opening day against the Seahawks. That team

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<v Speaker 3>who won the Super Bowl wins about 75% of the

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<v Speaker 3>time in Week 1. It's a tough assignment for New England.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, weirdly, we're going with the Bills last because

0:26:42.619 --> 0:26:43.850
<v Speaker 4>the Bills feel like the favorite.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Brady, the new coach.

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.209
<v Speaker 4>Everyone remembers Joe Brady, 2019 passing game coordinator with LSU.

0:26:49.830 --> 0:26:52.210
<v Speaker 5>Now it's his job. It's his stage. Sean McDermott's out.

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<v Speaker 5>Your thoughts on the Bills?

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<v Speaker 3>I would have done a clean break. I would not

0:26:56.390 --> 0:26:59.270
<v Speaker 3>have brought back the OC. Obviously, they finally let go

0:26:59.330 --> 0:27:02.090
<v Speaker 3>of Sean McDermott, probably overdue. I don't get it, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you weren't getting to the Super Bowl with

0:27:04.350 --> 0:27:06.830
<v Speaker 3>this coaching staff. Why are you bringing the OC up?

0:27:06.910 --> 0:27:08.669
<v Speaker 3>Why don't you go in a totally different direction?

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<v Speaker 4>I think, yeah, it's like a comfort thing. I think

0:27:11.170 --> 0:27:12.490
<v Speaker 4>it may be one of those things where Josh Allen

0:27:12.510 --> 0:27:14.909
<v Speaker 4>was more comfortable. It feels like Josh Allen, this juncture

0:27:14.930 --> 0:27:17.669
<v Speaker 4>of his career, has some level of head coach approval.

0:27:17.710 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 4>So I can't imagine they didn't say, we're going with

0:27:19.580 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Brady or looking elsewhere. And he probably said Brady because

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:22.580
<v Speaker 4>I felt comfortable.

0:27:22.820 --> 0:27:24.459
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would have preferred if they had not made

0:27:24.500 --> 0:27:27.510
<v Speaker 3>him comfortable. I think Josh Allen has played amazing. He's

0:27:27.590 --> 0:27:30.570
<v Speaker 3>arguably the best quarterback in the league. But something falls

0:27:30.630 --> 0:27:33.189
<v Speaker 3>apart in the postseason. Paul, last year Mahomes was out.

0:27:34.130 --> 0:27:36.470
<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen had to get to the Super Bowl. And

0:27:36.490 --> 0:27:36.750
<v Speaker 3>he didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>More likely the Bills miss the playoffs, win the Super Bowl.

0:27:40.630 --> 0:27:40.950
<v Speaker 6>Ooh.

0:27:41.990 --> 0:27:43.740
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go win the Super Bowl. Now, that

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 3>being said, I can't see them missing the playoffs. Josh

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Allen will run them into the playoffs. What they do

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 3>there is a different story.

0:27:49.140 --> 0:27:50.500
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they have a tough start to the season. But

0:27:50.540 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 5>let's get over. Let's go to it. The NFC East.

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 5>Let's go to the NFC East.

0:27:55.030 --> 0:27:57.810
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to start at the perceived bottom. The New

0:27:57.830 --> 0:28:01.129
<v Speaker 4>York Giants, they feel promising. Jackson darts there. Malik Nabors

0:28:01.190 --> 0:28:06.109
<v Speaker 4>is getting healthy. Harbaugh's in town. Cam Scadavu, year two, healthy.

0:28:06.290 --> 0:28:07.810
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to sell it. I'm trying to sell it

0:28:07.850 --> 0:28:08.310
<v Speaker 4>to the fans.

0:28:08.670 --> 0:28:10.330
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of hype. I mean, John Harbaugh has

0:28:10.369 --> 0:28:10.889
<v Speaker 3>won a Super Bowl.

0:28:10.910 --> 0:28:13.410
<v Speaker 4>You know, plus 600 is not that bad, especially compared

0:28:13.430 --> 0:28:14.629
<v Speaker 4>to a team like the Dolphins.

0:28:14.650 --> 0:28:17.619
<v Speaker 3>No, here's my concern. Malik Nabors is coming off ACL and,

0:28:17.650 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 3>I believe, a meniscus tear. Is he going to be

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 3>sort of Odell Beckham Jr.? The second. And Odell Beckham Jr.

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.420
<v Speaker 3>is there, but he's too old. We've talked about this

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot. Jackson Dart, can he stay healthy?

0:28:28.380 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 5>By the way, can we talk about that play right there?

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't want Jackson Dart running a pitch option with

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:33.580
<v Speaker 4>Cam Scadaboo this season.

0:28:33.619 --> 0:28:35.830
<v Speaker 3>But they're going to. Those two guys can't help it, Paul.

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.729
<v Speaker 4>They love getting, they like being knocked silly, it feels like.

0:28:38.750 --> 0:28:40.090
<v Speaker 5>They love, they're overly physical.

0:28:40.190 --> 0:28:42.710
<v Speaker 3>Right. What was it, Jackson Dart's father was a linebacker?

0:28:42.750 --> 0:28:45.330
<v Speaker 4>Jackson Dart's father was a DB at Utah back in

0:28:45.350 --> 0:28:48.170
<v Speaker 4>the day. He's got defensive mentality in a quarterback's body.

0:28:48.270 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 3>You know what I do like? their linebacking core, Brian Burns,

0:28:51.980 --> 0:28:53.420
<v Speaker 3>Arvell Reese, and Abdul Carter.

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 5>That's cool.

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.660
<v Speaker 3>First of all, Brian Burns is one of my favorite

0:28:56.680 --> 0:29:00.770
<v Speaker 3>pass rushers. Spider-Man, he is incredible. If Arvell Reese is

0:29:00.830 --> 0:29:02.910
<v Speaker 3>as good as he looked in training camp clips, that

0:29:02.950 --> 0:29:03.830
<v Speaker 3>could be a really good unit.

0:29:03.850 --> 0:29:06.210
<v Speaker 4>So maybe it's not this year, but remember the peak

0:29:06.390 --> 0:29:09.970
<v Speaker 4>Eli Manning days? Justin Tuck, O.C., all those guys. Strahan,

0:29:10.010 --> 0:29:10.950
<v Speaker 4>they won with those four.

0:29:11.150 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. Same formula. And Jackson Dart's a good enough quarterback.

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:16.100
<v Speaker 3>The question is, will he be helping?

0:29:16.140 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 4>Will he run and slide? All right, let's get to

0:29:17.860 --> 0:29:21.630
<v Speaker 4>your Washington Commanders, Pearl. Jaden Daniels is back. Don't shake

0:29:21.690 --> 0:29:24.630
<v Speaker 4>him off yet. Two years ago, they're in the NFC

0:29:24.670 --> 0:29:25.220
<v Speaker 4>title game.

0:29:25.620 --> 0:29:26.380
<v Speaker 5>Way ahead of schedule.

0:29:26.900 --> 0:29:29.180
<v Speaker 3>Way ahead of schedule. It turns out that schedule may

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.180
<v Speaker 3>never be happy. Last year, they fell apart. Paul, I

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.590
<v Speaker 3>don't like this team. I don't know if it's vibes.

0:29:34.620 --> 0:29:37.170
<v Speaker 3>There's just something off about it. Obviously, they lose their

0:29:37.210 --> 0:29:41.709
<v Speaker 3>left tackle. Huge issue. Jaden Daniels is talking about injury prone.

0:29:42.270 --> 0:29:43.710
<v Speaker 3>I feel like he's going to get killed this year,

0:29:43.810 --> 0:29:45.650
<v Speaker 3>and I don't like the fact that their wide receiving

0:29:45.710 --> 0:29:49.060
<v Speaker 3>core is getting older. Show me something to get excited

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:50.220
<v Speaker 3>about with Washington.

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:51.500
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to differ you with this one.

0:29:51.580 --> 0:29:53.500
<v Speaker 4>I like the promise they showed a couple years ago,

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 4>and there had to be something there. Jaden Daniels, a

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:57.940
<v Speaker 4>year and a half ago, if you said you could

0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 4>start your team with a young quarterback, people would have

0:29:59.620 --> 0:30:03.540
<v Speaker 4>picked him His injury shifted the bandwagon to Caleb Williams

0:30:03.620 --> 0:30:06.140
<v Speaker 4>and Drake May, as we said before. I think it's

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.460
<v Speaker 4>going to be a bounce back of your big time,

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 4>and you're looking at me like you have no chance.

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 4>The Stephon Diggs signing, that's exactly what a guy like

0:30:13.300 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 4>him needs.

0:30:14.340 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh, come on. Stephon Diggs.

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 5>Last call.

0:30:16.180 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 3>About older receivers, you know, receivers hit 30 and usually

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:20.810
<v Speaker 3>fall off a cliff. I feel like Diggs already fell

0:30:20.900 --> 0:30:22.850
<v Speaker 3>off that cliff. Can't get excited about them.

0:30:23.010 --> 0:30:25.830
<v Speaker 4>Let's get to the Dallas Cowboys. Dallas has improved on defense.

0:30:25.890 --> 0:30:27.870
<v Speaker 4>The offense was top three in the league last year.

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 4>Cowboys this year, next year, no chance.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:33.780
<v Speaker 3>The hype is real about the Cowboys. I mean, the

0:30:33.980 --> 0:30:36.700
<v Speaker 3>hype is there. I'm seeing some Super Bowl picks. Nine

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:38.500
<v Speaker 3>and a half is their win total, Paul. That's a

0:30:38.540 --> 0:30:39.100
<v Speaker 3>lot for a team.

0:30:39.140 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 5>Is that lower than usual?

0:30:40.220 --> 0:30:43.660
<v Speaker 3>They only had seven wins last year, so I think

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.219
<v Speaker 3>that makes sense. But I think people are overestimating the

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.220
<v Speaker 3>defense a little bit. A rookie safety is going to

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 3>transform the whole unit? Has that ever happened?

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would say Derwin James at his peak or

0:30:54.300 --> 0:30:55.740
<v Speaker 4>Ed Reed at his peak, but I'm giving you the

0:30:55.780 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 4>best of the best.

0:30:57.030 --> 0:30:59.430
<v Speaker 3>And also, those guys probably take a little bit of time.

0:30:59.580 --> 0:31:01.740
<v Speaker 3>I know how you hold Ed Reed on a pedestal.

0:31:02.580 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 3>I hold Brian Dawkins in Philly. It's the best safety

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 3>of all time. We can get that later.

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 5>The Cowboys could easily start out 2-0 there.

0:31:08.500 --> 0:31:11.180
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, listen. Their offense is going to be great.

0:31:11.420 --> 0:31:14.780
<v Speaker 3>It was last year. Dak Prescott's a quality quarterback. But

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:16.660
<v Speaker 3>even if they have that year, remember they kept going

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 3>12-5 with Mike McCarthy? Do they scare you in the playoffs?

0:31:20.340 --> 0:31:21.060
<v Speaker 5>Oh, in the playoffs?

0:31:21.300 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think they do because I think their defense

0:31:23.180 --> 0:31:26.140
<v Speaker 4>has improved. The Micah Parsons trade right now is working

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:26.540
<v Speaker 4>out for them.

0:31:26.700 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Not so fastball. Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs? Come on.

0:31:30.700 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 4>At some point, it has to happen like an eclipse.

0:31:32.510 --> 0:31:34.550
<v Speaker 4>It has to happen once a generation. All right, let's

0:31:34.570 --> 0:31:37.870
<v Speaker 4>get to your squad, your Philadelphia Eagles. They're always in

0:31:37.890 --> 0:31:39.290
<v Speaker 4>the mix. They're very consistent.

0:31:39.950 --> 0:31:40.170
<v Speaker 3>A.J.

0:31:40.190 --> 0:31:43.170
<v Speaker 4>Brown is gone by design. They're the most, to me,

0:31:43.210 --> 0:31:45.180
<v Speaker 4>the most confusing team in the NFC East.

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 3>How so?

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.290
<v Speaker 4>That It could be a Super Bowl win or Nick

0:31:49.310 --> 0:31:51.969
<v Speaker 4>Sirianni could be on the hot seat in November.

0:31:52.350 --> 0:31:54.170
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'll tell you why they're confusing to me.

0:31:54.610 --> 0:31:58.570
<v Speaker 3>Sean Mannion is their offensive coordinator. Our buddy. Yeah, first

0:31:58.590 --> 0:31:59.950
<v Speaker 3>of all, he's a good friend of not-so-fast.

0:31:59.970 --> 0:32:00.690
<v Speaker 5>Close friend of not-so-fast.

0:32:00.730 --> 0:32:02.870
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one of the nicest guys in the NFL industry.

0:32:02.890 --> 0:32:03.730
<v Speaker 5>Too nice for Philly?

0:32:04.330 --> 0:32:07.209
<v Speaker 3>Maybe, but also he's inexperienced. So the Eagles have had

0:32:07.270 --> 0:32:10.210
<v Speaker 3>trouble with inexperienced play callers during this Nick Sirianni run.

0:32:10.630 --> 0:32:12.820
<v Speaker 3>I'm a little bit worried about that. And you need

0:32:12.860 --> 0:32:15.580
<v Speaker 3>Taequann Barkley to carry Jalen Hurts. Listen, Jalen Hurts is

0:32:15.620 --> 0:32:18.580
<v Speaker 3>a polarizing figure. He is what he is. He's played

0:32:18.620 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 3>enough that we know his game. He's going to show

0:32:20.380 --> 0:32:22.860
<v Speaker 3>up in certain big games. He's going to be inconsistent

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 3>during the season. What's the guy who is going to

0:32:25.540 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 3>be consistent? Saquon Barkley. If they can run Saquon as

0:32:28.700 --> 0:32:30.940
<v Speaker 3>much as they did two years ago, then I'm very

0:32:31.010 --> 0:32:34.330
<v Speaker 3>confident in this offense. If not, I don't know. I

0:32:34.350 --> 0:32:36.220
<v Speaker 3>don't want to put too much on Jalen Hurts' shoulders.

0:32:36.390 --> 0:32:37.690
<v Speaker 5>Would the fans turn on Jalen Hurts?

0:32:38.870 --> 0:32:40.330
<v Speaker 3>They would turn on him if they were for him

0:32:40.350 --> 0:32:44.090
<v Speaker 3>in the first place. Quarterbacks in Philadelphia are strange players.

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.500
<v Speaker 3>Strange tale. They didn't like Donovan McNabb despite all his success.

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:48.510
<v Speaker 5>They love Randall Cunningham.

0:32:49.290 --> 0:32:52.410
<v Speaker 3>Nah, not so much. Not so much. I remember there

0:32:52.450 --> 0:32:54.610
<v Speaker 3>were people calling the sports station saying, put in Bubby

0:32:54.650 --> 0:32:57.390
<v Speaker 3>Brister over him. So they don't love Jalen Hurts. And

0:32:57.410 --> 0:33:00.230
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Hurts is definitely a bit of a quiet guy.

0:33:00.490 --> 0:33:03.490
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't really get the crowd fired up or do anything.

0:33:03.830 --> 0:33:07.450
<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia likes emotion. I mentioned Brian Dawkins, who wore his

0:33:07.470 --> 0:33:09.580
<v Speaker 3>heart on his sleeve. They love that. Jalen Hurts is

0:33:09.620 --> 0:33:13.190
<v Speaker 3>too cool. But as far as Super Bowl... They've been

0:33:13.230 --> 0:33:14.770
<v Speaker 3>every other year under Sirianni.

0:33:14.890 --> 0:33:16.170
<v Speaker 5>Is there a Super Bowl team in the division?

0:33:17.810 --> 0:33:20.210
<v Speaker 3>If any, it'd be the Eagles, because they have some...

0:33:20.090 --> 0:33:22.850
<v Speaker 3>By default. Well, by default. But also, they have Jalen Carter,

0:33:22.910 --> 0:33:25.690
<v Speaker 3>Cooper DeGene, Quinion Mitchell on defense. They can be a

0:33:25.710 --> 0:33:28.090
<v Speaker 3>lead on both sides of the ball. But to me,

0:33:28.590 --> 0:33:30.950
<v Speaker 3>you know what? I'm sorry. The inexperienced play caller is

0:33:30.990 --> 0:33:31.670
<v Speaker 3>what I come back to.

0:33:31.690 --> 0:33:31.969
<v Speaker 8>All right.

0:33:31.990 --> 0:33:34.290
<v Speaker 4>That's the AFC and NFC East. A lot more tomorrow

0:33:34.310 --> 0:33:36.610
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL with the kickoff on NBC.

0:33:36.690 --> 0:33:36.950
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:33:36.990 --> 0:33:39.670
<v Speaker 4>Coming up next, it's time for the Clip Joint. We'll

0:33:39.750 --> 0:33:41.620
<v Speaker 4>chop it up. We're going to talk time zones, which

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 4>we don't understand. and others don't understand.

0:33:43.820 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Stick around. Not so fast.

0:33:50.100 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Were you aware that the clock in the stadium and

0:33:53.780 --> 0:33:56.900
<v Speaker 3>the clock with the officials or the replay center don't

0:33:56.980 --> 0:33:57.390
<v Speaker 3>sync up?

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.610
<v Speaker 2>No, I had never heard that before. Again, it synced

0:34:01.690 --> 0:34:03.650
<v Speaker 2>up except for a couple of hundreds, right? And that

0:34:03.670 --> 0:34:06.890
<v Speaker 2>just kind of came into play. I know in this

0:34:06.930 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 2>world we live in, the impression is that, oh, okay,

0:34:10.460 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the man stepped in and the Big Ten wasn't going

0:34:13.580 --> 0:34:17.100
<v Speaker 2>to let Michigan lose another Appalachian State-type game in the

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:17.859
<v Speaker 2>big house, and so.

0:34:17.820 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 5>They're going to do what they could.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:20.540
<v Speaker 2>Listen, they still had to make a play at the end,

0:34:20.890 --> 0:34:23.110
<v Speaker 2>and Western still could have defended it a lot better.

0:34:23.690 --> 0:34:24.820
<v Speaker 5>But, yeah, I.

0:34:25.610 --> 0:34:27.850
<v Speaker 2>I did learn something. That was going on like we

0:34:27.890 --> 0:34:29.529
<v Speaker 2>were getting ready for our game and we're going, wait,

0:34:29.790 --> 0:34:32.450
<v Speaker 2>what happened? And we couldn't figure it out. And then

0:34:32.469 --> 0:34:34.500
<v Speaker 2>it started to get out and get the phones blowing up.

0:34:34.580 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 5>Western Michigan got screwed.

0:34:36.940 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 4>Back on Not So Fast, Pabst and Perloff, NBC Sports

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<v Speaker 4>Now every day.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:41.620
<v Speaker 5>Now, I love that.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.140
<v Speaker 4>That's a great question by Dan. Did you know there

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.220
<v Speaker 4>was two different clocks at the end of the game?

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.490
<v Speaker 4>Chris Fowler is a measured voice of college football. He's

0:34:49.510 --> 0:34:51.980
<v Speaker 4>been working in the sport for 40 years. He's if

0:34:52.020 --> 0:34:53.819
<v Speaker 4>not the face, one of the faces of college football,

0:34:54.180 --> 0:34:54.899
<v Speaker 4>he didn't know there.

0:34:54.820 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 5>Was two clocks.

0:34:55.460 --> 0:34:57.940
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had the thought, how many games has Chris

0:34:57.980 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Fowler done? How many big games?

0:34:59.540 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 5>Most of them.

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Everybody watching. Yeah. Most of them. Yes. And if he

0:35:02.739 --> 0:35:04.740
<v Speaker 3>didn't even know that, it does show what an anomaly

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:05.970
<v Speaker 3>would happen on Saturday night.

0:35:06.070 --> 0:35:06.260
<v Speaker 7>Sure.

0:35:06.410 --> 0:35:09.469
<v Speaker 3>It's not something that they should have rehearsed. That being said,

0:35:09.710 --> 0:35:12.310
<v Speaker 3>Chris Fowler, I don't think he said one way was

0:35:12.390 --> 0:35:15.070
<v Speaker 3>right or wrong. He basically said it was kind of

0:35:15.090 --> 0:35:17.710
<v Speaker 3>an unfortunate incident because no one really knew.

0:35:17.810 --> 0:35:19.630
<v Speaker 4>Well, what's great about having Fowler on the show, and

0:35:19.670 --> 0:35:21.629
<v Speaker 4>we have him pretty regularly, we've known him for years,

0:35:21.690 --> 0:35:23.989
<v Speaker 4>Dan's known him for decades, is that he is a

0:35:24.090 --> 0:35:27.230
<v Speaker 4>very big voice of reason. He'll present both sides. He's

0:35:27.290 --> 0:35:28.790
<v Speaker 4>not a hot take guy. He's a guy who'll give

0:35:28.810 --> 0:35:32.490
<v Speaker 4>you deeper perspective from a pure expert on the college football,

0:35:32.810 --> 0:35:34.370
<v Speaker 4>especially the broadcast of college football.

0:35:34.690 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. How long have you known Fowler? Did you ever

0:35:37.340 --> 0:35:38.020
<v Speaker 3>get to work with him?

0:35:38.110 --> 0:35:41.260
<v Speaker 4>I worked with Fowler for two years, him and Kirk Herbstreet,

0:35:41.340 --> 0:35:44.109
<v Speaker 4>when I started ESPN. And he's one of the best

0:35:44.150 --> 0:35:46.490
<v Speaker 4>of all time. I mean, he started Scholastic Sports America

0:35:46.530 --> 0:35:48.529
<v Speaker 4>back in the day. But he calls, like you said,

0:35:48.630 --> 0:35:51.090
<v Speaker 4>all the big games and tennis and other things. But

0:35:51.130 --> 0:35:53.700
<v Speaker 4>it's great to have his availability on the show for...

0:35:54.180 --> 0:35:55.779
<v Speaker 4>He wasn't calling this game, so he's kind of a

0:35:55.820 --> 0:35:56.380
<v Speaker 4>neutral party.

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.980
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I've been around him when he's at

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 3>the Dan Patrick show. It seems like he has great

0:36:00.620 --> 0:36:04.060
<v Speaker 3>chemistry with Dan going back to the mothership. That being said...

0:36:04.450 --> 0:36:06.910
<v Speaker 3>He basically said, I haven't seen this. The fact that,

0:36:07.150 --> 0:36:09.810
<v Speaker 3>to me, Chris Fowler has no experience in this situation

0:36:10.150 --> 0:36:13.509
<v Speaker 3>speaks to how unusual it was. But now, after we

0:36:13.530 --> 0:36:16.190
<v Speaker 3>have all this happening, Paul, there's no excuse next time

0:36:16.250 --> 0:36:16.569
<v Speaker 3>it happens.

0:36:16.610 --> 0:36:19.630
<v Speaker 4>Well, but it still is conference by conference. There's not

0:36:19.850 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 4>an overriding body. If this were the NFL, there's one

0:36:22.380 --> 0:36:25.300
<v Speaker 4>central office. It's not like Jacksonville games have a different clock.

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 4>Maybe they wish they did. But every team in the

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:29.259
<v Speaker 4>NFL is under the same jurisdiction.

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.060
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. I don't care what conference you are. You

0:36:31.140 --> 0:36:33.760
<v Speaker 3>call your officials today. You get on the horn on Tuesday.

0:36:34.140 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 3>And you say, we are going with the TV clock.

0:36:36.580 --> 0:36:39.140
<v Speaker 3>There's too much money out there being bet. There's too

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.820
<v Speaker 3>much money at stake. They have to be as transparent

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.250
<v Speaker 3>as possible. And by the way, I like what they're

0:36:44.270 --> 0:36:47.049
<v Speaker 3>doing now. With some boost, ACC, you could hear the

0:36:47.090 --> 0:36:50.270
<v Speaker 3>chit-chat between the official replay and the actual on-field official.

0:36:50.830 --> 0:36:51.690
<v Speaker 3>That should be everywhere now.

0:36:51.730 --> 0:36:54.390
<v Speaker 5>Look at you, Perloff from NSF calling out college football.

0:36:54.469 --> 0:36:54.870
<v Speaker 5>I like it.

0:36:55.219 --> 0:36:57.700
<v Speaker 3>Well, it seems obvious at this point. It's just become

0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:58.660
<v Speaker 3>too big of an industry.

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, especially with that Western Michigan loss. All right, let's

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.890
<v Speaker 4>get to it. Bill Belichick, who has had a good

0:37:03.930 --> 0:37:05.989
<v Speaker 4>start of the season on the field with the TCU in.

0:37:06.510 --> 0:37:10.730
<v Speaker 4>Michael Lombardi resigns. There's an investigation going on. Bill at

0:37:10.770 --> 0:37:12.430
<v Speaker 4>some point has to talk to the media. And here's

0:37:12.469 --> 0:37:12.990
<v Speaker 4>how that went.

0:37:14.030 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 7>Why do you think questions are being asked by investigators

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.940
<v Speaker 7>about sex and drug use within the program? Yeah.

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:23.459
<v Speaker 5>Talk to the other guy, Sam.

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:30.140
<v Speaker 7>You know, your GM steps down. amid the investigation, your

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 7>son's on medical leave, amid questions from investigators about drugs.

0:37:33.860 --> 0:37:35.740
<v Speaker 3>Pat, I understand where you keep asking those questions.

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:37.739
<v Speaker 5>I can't speak about that. It's already been talked about.

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:39.569
<v Speaker 7>Well, I guess just the question then would just be,

0:37:39.780 --> 0:37:41.950
<v Speaker 7>what indications do we have based on the last year

0:37:41.989 --> 0:37:44.330
<v Speaker 7>and everything that's been reported that you have control of

0:37:44.370 --> 0:37:44.930
<v Speaker 7>this program?

0:37:45.910 --> 0:37:48.710
<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's, if you're around here every day,

0:37:48.750 --> 0:37:49.390
<v Speaker 5>I think it's it.

0:37:50.550 --> 0:37:53.270
<v Speaker 4>A couple things there on those responses by Bill. First

0:37:53.290 --> 0:37:55.940
<v Speaker 4>of all, I hope you had closed captioning. Secondly, he

0:37:55.980 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 4>was practicing biting his lip so much that he actually

0:37:58.500 --> 0:38:01.339
<v Speaker 4>bit his lip, it looks like there. But he found

0:38:01.380 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 4>a way to say nothing and not get criticized for it.

0:38:03.900 --> 0:38:06.540
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because he won. Now, if they had lost, Paul,

0:38:06.580 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 3>would people have reacted differently to this?

0:38:08.140 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 5>But they were off this weekend.

0:38:09.300 --> 0:38:10.700
<v Speaker 4>They didn't even have a game to win. I think

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.370
<v Speaker 4>they have East Tennessee State next week. But he basically said,

0:38:13.989 --> 0:38:16.930
<v Speaker 4>talk to the bosses. Aren't you the boss of the

0:38:16.950 --> 0:38:19.969
<v Speaker 4>football program? Didn't you hire Mike Lombardi? Are you going

0:38:19.989 --> 0:38:23.580
<v Speaker 4>to defer to, you know, Robert Kraft, in the old days,

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.500
<v Speaker 4>you'd do that. Now you're deferring to the athletic director?

0:38:25.940 --> 0:38:28.100
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's pure Bill Belichick. And by the way, how

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.060
<v Speaker 3>do you think the reporter did sort of holding up there?

0:38:30.100 --> 0:38:32.700
<v Speaker 3>It's hard. I think he's terrifying, Bill Belichick. I've been

0:38:32.739 --> 0:38:34.780
<v Speaker 3>in press rooms. I know you have too with Belichick.

0:38:35.140 --> 0:38:36.740
<v Speaker 3>He is not easy to ask questions.

0:38:36.780 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 4>See, I disagree on that because I think the North

0:38:38.900 --> 0:38:41.430
<v Speaker 4>Carolina media knows that in three years, Bill Belichick will

0:38:41.469 --> 0:38:44.109
<v Speaker 4>not be present at North Carolina football games in charge

0:38:44.150 --> 0:38:46.810
<v Speaker 4>of the place, whether he goes pro or goes home,

0:38:46.850 --> 0:38:49.110
<v Speaker 4>because those are the only two options for Bill Belichick's future.

0:38:49.410 --> 0:38:50.629
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's going to be the coach there

0:38:50.650 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 4>in three years. If I'm a North Carolina reporter, I'm

0:38:52.900 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 4>going to step on the gas because I don't have

0:38:55.180 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 4>access to him anyway. I'm never going to have direct

0:38:57.660 --> 0:39:00.379
<v Speaker 4>access to this guy. Look up the reporters back in

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 4>New England. So why not just go, I'm going to

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 4>press this and make Bill answer something and not mumble?

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.460
<v Speaker 3>Dan, ever interviewed Belichick on the DP show? I'm sure elsewhere.

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't know that he's ever had a sit-down of

0:39:11.180 --> 0:39:14.060
<v Speaker 4>any way with him. Dan's talked to him off the

0:39:14.100 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 4>air before, and I don't know if he had a sit-down.

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting. All right, I'm going back to the NFL.

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 3>The Ravens are favored to come out of AFC this year.

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.839
<v Speaker 3>And Derek Henry talked about how he feels about not

0:39:24.860 --> 0:39:25.810
<v Speaker 3>getting to a Super Bowl yet.

0:39:26.430 --> 0:39:28.570
<v Speaker 6>I want to win a Super Bowl. So that's a

0:39:28.590 --> 0:39:30.850
<v Speaker 6>big motivation. I just want to be able to feel

0:39:30.870 --> 0:39:33.150
<v Speaker 6>that feeling. I'm tired of watching. Every year I'm tired

0:39:33.190 --> 0:39:35.469
<v Speaker 6>of being at home on the couch watching. I want

0:39:35.489 --> 0:39:38.069
<v Speaker 6>to be a part of it. So that's what motivates

0:39:38.110 --> 0:39:40.590
<v Speaker 6>me right now. And I'm going to keep going until

0:39:40.610 --> 0:39:41.550
<v Speaker 6>we get to that point.

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Wow. I mean, if he doesn't want to be on

0:39:43.060 --> 0:39:44.860
<v Speaker 3>the couch, Paul, you know my suggestion. Go to a

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:45.660
<v Speaker 3>party instead.

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 4>So Derek Henry, instead of sitting at home, should just

0:39:48.140 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 4>fly in if he doesn't make the Super Bowl.

0:39:50.180 --> 0:39:51.779
<v Speaker 5>And just, I mean, people invite him to parties.

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:53.620
<v Speaker 3>You'd invite him. Oh, my God. I mean, he's a

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 3>big guy. I think he would eat a lot, so

0:39:55.860 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 3>that's a bit of an issue.

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 4>But if we roll into a Super Bowl party with

0:39:58.500 --> 0:40:01.020
<v Speaker 4>Derrick Henry, instead of you and I being on the outside,

0:40:01.060 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 4>we're now on the inside.

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.010
<v Speaker 3>You know, I was surprised at the Ravens. The odds

0:40:04.070 --> 0:40:06.529
<v Speaker 3>are so good. They're the favorite in the AFC, sort

0:40:06.570 --> 0:40:09.190
<v Speaker 3>of tied with the Bills. I'm not sure the Ravens

0:40:09.210 --> 0:40:11.029
<v Speaker 3>are headed that way. What do we know about new

0:40:11.070 --> 0:40:13.390
<v Speaker 3>coach Jesse Minter? What do we know about Derrick Henry?

0:40:13.410 --> 0:40:14.750
<v Speaker 3>Is he going to be able to keep up this

0:40:14.830 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 3>level of effectiveness as he gets into his 30s?

0:40:18.650 --> 0:40:20.210
<v Speaker 4>I like one more good year out of him, two

0:40:20.250 --> 0:40:21.670
<v Speaker 4>more good years out of him. I still think they

0:40:21.690 --> 0:40:24.190
<v Speaker 4>have the talent. The wide receiver position is always in flux,

0:40:24.210 --> 0:40:27.180
<v Speaker 4>but Zay Flowers seems like he's a guy, maybe not

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 4>the guy, but I feel pretty good about the Ravens

0:40:29.100 --> 0:40:29.359
<v Speaker 4>this year.

0:40:29.460 --> 0:40:31.260
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's two guys who have not won in the postseason.

0:40:31.340 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Two probable surefire Hall of Famers, quarterback Lamar Jackson and

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Derrick Henry. Again, as you said, I'm sick of watching

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:40.650
<v Speaker 3>the Super Bowl. I don't know if there's time for

0:40:40.690 --> 0:40:41.370
<v Speaker 3>him to get there, Paul.

0:40:41.390 --> 0:40:43.750
<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get to Kyle Shanahan, the head coach

0:40:43.770 --> 0:40:46.760
<v Speaker 4>of the 49ers. Now, Kyle Shanahan... He's on his way

0:40:46.820 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 4>or left a week ago to go to Australia. And

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.140
<v Speaker 4>he was trying to get his time zones correct as

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:53.740
<v Speaker 4>the head coach or the boss set the tone.

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:54.580
<v Speaker 5>Here's how that went.

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 8>When I look at my clock and it says the time,

0:40:56.620 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 8>and then I try to see my family's time, and

0:40:58.140 --> 0:40:59.940
<v Speaker 8>it says the time, but it says yesterday.

0:40:59.960 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't even get how that's possible.

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.940
<v Speaker 8>So I feel like I'm in the future. And then

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 8>also when we play on our Friday, which I think

0:41:05.820 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 8>is a Thursday in the U.S., we're such creatures of habit.

0:41:08.020 --> 0:41:09.060
<v Speaker 8>So I call today Tuesday.

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:10.060
<v Speaker 3>No, wait.

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 8>Sorry, I call today Wednesday, which is the first day

0:41:12.780 --> 0:41:15.900
<v Speaker 8>we put in a game plan. But I think it's Monday. However, though,

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:17.420
<v Speaker 8>it's Sunday in the present.

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 5>So, like, I'm going to.

0:41:18.980 --> 0:41:20.540
<v Speaker 8>Mess that up all week if you guys ask me.

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.379
<v Speaker 8>But today is just our first day of the game plan,

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 8>which is a Wednesday. We'll put in some on a Thursday.

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 8>Friday is the final part of the game plan. Saturday

0:41:28.300 --> 0:41:30.259
<v Speaker 8>we walk through when we play on Sunday, which is

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.030
<v Speaker 8>a Friday in Australia and a Thursday in the U.S.

0:41:33.050 --> 0:41:34.890
<v Speaker 8>So don't ever make me do that again.

0:41:36.090 --> 0:41:38.529
<v Speaker 4>That clears that up. You know, I love that about

0:41:38.550 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 4>Kyle Shanahan. He's a pure football guy. Football guys don't

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 4>need to know time zones. Tell me when Sunday is.

0:41:43.580 --> 0:41:44.430
<v Speaker 4>Tell me when kickoff is.

0:41:44.530 --> 0:41:45.029
<v Speaker 5>I love that.

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.790
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's been a pretty bad offseason for San Francisco. Obviously,

0:41:47.830 --> 0:41:51.010
<v Speaker 3>Kyle Shanahan got in a car accident. The owner had his...

0:41:51.410 --> 0:41:52.610
<v Speaker 3>extracurricular activities.

0:41:52.810 --> 0:41:53.250
<v Speaker 5>Nicely said.

0:41:53.370 --> 0:41:56.049
<v Speaker 3>I feel like Kyle Shanahan's making a comeback. That was hysterical.

0:41:56.130 --> 0:41:57.550
<v Speaker 3>I don't even understand what he was saying.

0:41:57.590 --> 0:41:58.900
<v Speaker 5>And I don't think that was on purpose.

0:41:58.940 --> 0:42:00.620
<v Speaker 4>I think he was actually trying to get it and

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 4>he got into it and he couldn't find his way

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 4>out of the time zone thing.

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.580
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And listen, I get it. I've been actually Googling

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:08.739
<v Speaker 3>about five times. Like what time is it actually for

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 3>the bodies of the Niners and the Rams players? Definitely

0:42:11.500 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 3>around 3 a.m.

0:42:12.500 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 4>I get confused when I go back to Chicago. I

0:42:14.020 --> 0:42:15.890
<v Speaker 4>think it's one time zone away. All right, let's get

0:42:15.930 --> 0:42:17.690
<v Speaker 4>to this before we break. This is called the rando,

0:42:17.730 --> 0:42:20.290
<v Speaker 4>something we saw this weekend that you should see. Now, Perloff,

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.250
<v Speaker 4>Of course, I was cruising Facebook Marketplace, and I saw

0:42:23.330 --> 0:42:27.370
<v Speaker 4>this piece of gold come up for only $ 2, 500. This

0:42:27.930 --> 0:42:29.230
<v Speaker 4>Bears tailgate van.

0:42:29.250 --> 0:42:30.989
<v Speaker 5>Whoa.

0:42:31.170 --> 0:42:32.029
<v Speaker 3>How much did you say it was?

0:42:32.050 --> 0:42:32.710
<v Speaker 5>Two-wheel drive.

0:42:32.870 --> 0:42:35.569
<v Speaker 4>It's $ 2, 500 listed. I think I can talk him down.

0:42:35.670 --> 0:42:38.370
<v Speaker 3>You can make a van that's two-wheel drive? I don't know.

0:42:38.390 --> 0:42:41.830
<v Speaker 4>It looks in solid condition for an 89 Astro van.

0:42:43.150 --> 0:42:44.860
<v Speaker 5>Look at this gorgeous piece of material. Look at that.

0:42:44.890 --> 0:42:48.259
<v Speaker 5>Four seats. A grass field in case a game breaks out.

0:42:49.430 --> 0:42:50.109
<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing.

0:42:50.210 --> 0:42:50.870
<v Speaker 5>AM and FM?

0:42:51.330 --> 0:42:52.910
<v Speaker 3>You can only take it to Bears games. What if

0:42:52.930 --> 0:42:54.430
<v Speaker 3>we want to go to a different game?

0:42:54.820 --> 0:42:58.500
<v Speaker 5>How do I convince my wife that I could buy this? Like,

0:42:58.580 --> 0:43:00.140
<v Speaker 5>what move? Is there a move? Do I have any

0:43:00.180 --> 0:43:00.580
<v Speaker 5>moves on this?

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 3>There is zero move for a team-themed van. I mean, listen,

0:43:04.140 --> 0:43:06.980
<v Speaker 3>vans are already a hard sell, but then you put

0:43:07.020 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 3>a sports thing on it. Although, I mean, not to

0:43:09.860 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 3>get too personal, but you did name a child after

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Walter Payton. Exactly.

0:43:13.300 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 4>And everyone should name their children after Walter Payton, if

0:43:15.460 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 4>I have anything to say about it.

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 5>All right, coming up next. Oh, I can't wait. constructive criticism,

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.100
<v Speaker 5>the feel good, and much, much more. Stick around. Not

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 5>so fast.

0:43:22.580 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 3>All right. Welcome back to not so fast. Now, every

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 3>day we do leftovers, Paul, certain sports topics that we

0:43:29.500 --> 0:43:31.709
<v Speaker 3>didn't get to. And last night when we did Kyle

0:43:31.730 --> 0:43:35.629
<v Speaker 3>Shannon from Australia talking about the time change, I think

0:43:35.650 --> 0:43:38.910
<v Speaker 3>to be fair, we need to hear from Sean McVay.

0:43:39.230 --> 0:43:42.430
<v Speaker 3>The Rams are leaving today or tonight for Australia. And

0:43:42.450 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 3>McVay was asked if he's concerned about their plan.

0:43:45.340 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 5>He seems concerned.

0:43:46.460 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 3>He seems really concerned. Well, listen, it, Sound waves and

0:43:49.620 --> 0:43:51.540
<v Speaker 3>TV waves take a long time to get from Australia,

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 3>so that's what happened there.

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 5>But you go back to that.

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.090
<v Speaker 4>The Rams, we're going to judge this game by the

0:43:56.140 --> 0:43:57.989
<v Speaker 4>travel plans of these two teams because the Rams, like

0:43:58.010 --> 0:43:59.770
<v Speaker 4>you said, I think they're in the air as we speak,

0:44:00.410 --> 0:44:04.149
<v Speaker 4>and I think they're keeping all their watches on L.A.

0:44:04.190 --> 0:44:06.569
<v Speaker 4>time and just ignoring the fact that they're in another country.

0:44:06.650 --> 0:44:09.410
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I think you're going to determine who had

0:44:09.430 --> 0:44:10.969
<v Speaker 3>a better plan by who wins. We actually do have

0:44:11.010 --> 0:44:12.230
<v Speaker 3>the McVay sound. Let's check it out.

0:44:12.469 --> 0:44:14.290
<v Speaker 1>What gives me confidence is I'm not going to really

0:44:14.489 --> 0:44:16.489
<v Speaker 1>make it a big deal. It's, hey, this is what

0:44:16.530 --> 0:44:18.310
<v Speaker 1>the reality is. We've got a long way to go.

0:44:19.070 --> 0:44:20.830
<v Speaker 1>But let's be ready to rock, you know, when that

0:44:20.850 --> 0:44:23.830
<v Speaker 1>three hour window that we're allotted comes. And and that's

0:44:23.850 --> 0:44:26.149
<v Speaker 1>what it is. And, you know, to spend a bunch

0:44:26.190 --> 0:44:28.890
<v Speaker 1>of time and talking about it, you know, and I

0:44:28.930 --> 0:44:30.940
<v Speaker 1>get it with you guys, too. Like, I understand your

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:32.980
<v Speaker 1>guys questions. But, you know, for me, you know, I've

0:44:33.020 --> 0:44:34.739
<v Speaker 1>kind of told you guys what our approach is and

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<v Speaker 1>our expectation is our guys will be ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not really I'm not worrying about it because

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<v Speaker 1>I know what our plans are. We're going to follow

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<v Speaker 1>that plan and then we're going to focus on our

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<v Speaker 1>preparation and try to go be at our best and

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<v Speaker 1>go swing when we get a chance to play against

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<v Speaker 1>a great team.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, McVay sounds really confident, but I'm not buying it.

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<v Speaker 3>I like what the Niners are doing. I'm seeing them

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<v Speaker 3>over there going to Australian rules football games. I know

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<v Speaker 3>my body, Paul. When I land somewhere else in a

0:44:58.050 --> 0:45:00.220
<v Speaker 3>different time zone. I am not ready to go.

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<v Speaker 4>I once went to Dublin for 48 hours, and I

0:45:02.690 --> 0:45:04.290
<v Speaker 4>didn't feel really good at the back end, but I

0:45:04.550 --> 0:45:06.089
<v Speaker 4>felt fine on the front end of the trip.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because you were drunk.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the entire time.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I like the Niners' approach a lot better. I

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<v Speaker 3>understand what McVay is saying, but I'd like to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to the sleep scientists.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, we're going to have them tomorrow on Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 4>It's time for a constructive criticism. Your thoughts, Twitter, just

0:45:19.810 --> 0:45:21.290
<v Speaker 4>hit us back. Say what you want to say about

0:45:21.310 --> 0:45:23.779
<v Speaker 4>the show, about my shirt, about the football weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>Here you go, Pearl. I've got a couple for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Constructive criticism.

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<v Speaker 4>Prior to Western Michigan, college football teams were 110,352-0 when

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<v Speaker 4>leading at the end of regulation.

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<v Speaker 5>That's actually correct. If you win the game, you don't

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:39.540
<v Speaker 5>usually lose the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's not much you can say back to that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of college football.

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<v Speaker 6>1869.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I remember, yeah, University of Chicago was a four-point

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<v Speaker 3>favorite over Harvard.

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<v Speaker 5>And they covered. All right, let's get to the next one.

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<v Speaker 5>Constructive criticism.

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<v Speaker 4>How many more games until the New York Jets' defense

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<v Speaker 4>breaks the interceptionless streak?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm calling my shot.

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<v Speaker 4>Jets not only get an interception, they get a pick

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<v Speaker 4>six week one and make fun of the story.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's so funny. In the preseason, they had

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<v Speaker 3>some picks, and everyone made such a big deal of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that record, but there's a little more going

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<v Speaker 3>on with New York than just getting an interception.

0:46:11.860 --> 0:46:14.060
<v Speaker 5>And against Cam Ward, he might be good for one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he likes to play fast and loose. I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>down on the Jets a little bit. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>say week eight.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, last constructive criticism. We don't see these in advance. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a tweet from Paul Pabst. Following is a

0:46:26.030 --> 0:46:27.489
<v Speaker 4>true story. Yes, I went out of town for the

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<v Speaker 4>weekend and I packed up toiletries, headphones, phone charger, sunglasses.

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<v Speaker 4>I literally forgot to pack clothes into my weekend bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that a subconscious effort to buy new clothes, Paul?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what was going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's how it worked out.

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<v Speaker 4>I was actually wearing a shirt on Saturday night when

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<v Speaker 4>I met my friends that had the tag on it,

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<v Speaker 4>like I was going to a dance and I just

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<v Speaker 4>bought the suit.

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<v Speaker 5>But going without any clothes, it's kind of freeing. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a little freeing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that, A, you're probably a little overextended, but, B,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine if you got to Super Bowl week and you

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<v Speaker 3>had just one outfit.

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell you for a fact, I once went

0:47:01.110 --> 0:47:02.890
<v Speaker 4>on a road trip with Dan Patrick. I think it

0:47:02.930 --> 0:47:05.310
<v Speaker 4>was the Fiesta Bowl, and he did not bring clothes,

0:47:05.330 --> 0:47:06.169
<v Speaker 4>but I think it was a choice.

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<v Speaker 5>We went to the mall. He bought everything at the

0:47:08.350 --> 0:47:10.569
<v Speaker 5>mall and brought it all home.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. But you're good now? You have something

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<v Speaker 3>to wear?

0:47:13.530 --> 0:47:14.989
<v Speaker 4>I got something to wear. This shirt may have been

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<v Speaker 4>bought two days ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get to something we like to call

0:47:17.930 --> 0:47:19.750
<v Speaker 4>the feel good. Put you in a good mood before

0:47:19.770 --> 0:47:21.890
<v Speaker 4>you end your day on Not So Fast. Bro, you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to like this one. Notre Dame fans will like

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<v Speaker 4>this one. Wisconsin fans, not so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, come on.

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<v Speaker 5>They did the Lambeau Leaf.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>That's like checking the box. It's like going to the

0:47:33.500 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 5>Pat's or Gino's in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 3>See, Notre Dame are traditionally not big celebrators. So is

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<v Speaker 3>this out of character? You're a Notre Dame fan, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, it's a little out of character.

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<v Speaker 4>They usually sing after the game. But you're in Lambeau

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.500
<v Speaker 4>once in your career. Lambeau Leaf. The bros are there.

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<v Speaker 5>Tarps off. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not? You know what it speaks to me? Wisconsin

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.490
<v Speaker 3>was unthreatening. They had no fear of them. And those uniforms,

0:47:52.510 --> 0:47:54.669
<v Speaker 3>they were wearing Ohio State red. I didn't like anything

0:47:54.690 --> 0:47:55.670
<v Speaker 3>Wisconsin was putting out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, those Wisconsin uniforms are questionable. And the not-so-feel-good, we

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<v Speaker 4>forgot to mention this, but let's mention it, SMU Florida

0:48:01.810 --> 0:48:04.469
<v Speaker 4>State last night, powerless for the first hour and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>That really put a crimp in my plans for the night, Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>because I was psyched to watch SMU. So what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Have we figured it out yet?

0:48:12.590 --> 0:48:13.109
<v Speaker 5>We don't know.

0:48:13.210 --> 0:48:15.989
<v Speaker 4>But getting an electrician on a holiday weekend short notice,

0:48:16.010 --> 0:48:16.450
<v Speaker 4>that must have.

0:48:16.390 --> 0:48:19.370
<v Speaker 5>Been costly for FSU's athletic department. Check on the budget there.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's our show for today. Much more tomorrow. Getting you

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<v Speaker 4>ready for the NFL season tomorrow. The Dan Patrick Tomorrow Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Where is that game tomorrow, Paul?

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<v Speaker 5>That is in, oh, on NBC Sports.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's in Seattle technically.

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<v Speaker 3>Pacific time zone. That's not that complicated.

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<v Speaker 5>NBC Sports. All right, thanks a lot for listening. Tune

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<v Speaker 5>in tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be here. Take it easy.