WEBVTT - NOW: TMZ Claims It Received Ransom Note For Nancy Guthrie

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Tuesday, February third, and we are hopping on

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<v Speaker 2>this evening with a breaking update on the search for

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<v Speaker 2>Savannah Guthrie's mom. The case has taken a bizarre turn

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<v Speaker 2>and there may be a ransom note with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Roabes.

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<v Speaker 2>This this is odd, okay, so let's go with what

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<v Speaker 2>we got. Everybody knows the lady's missing. They gave us

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<v Speaker 2>updates knowing where she is, she was abducted. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>the authorities telling us there's a ransom note.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a celebrity news out there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's TMZ. This is such a strange twist. Literally within

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<v Speaker 3>an hour, I believe, of this latest press conference and

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<v Speaker 3>we addressed someone asking and someone then following up asking

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<v Speaker 3>the share about whether or not there was a ransom note,

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<v Speaker 3>and the sheriff notably moved past it, didn't say no,

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<v Speaker 3>and just said.

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<v Speaker 4>We're looking at all investigative leads.

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<v Speaker 3>So he basically skirted the question, ducked the question, and

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<v Speaker 3>then whila. About an hour or so later, we hear

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<v Speaker 3>from TMZ. Harvey Levin gets online and says, we believe

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<v Speaker 3>we have a ransom note.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and to establish robes.

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<v Speaker 2>There was not a lot of new information in the

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<v Speaker 2>press conference today, but there were things that were glaring.

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<v Speaker 2>Only a couple things, and this was one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>He was asked twice directly about ransom note opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>say no, It was a odd way to ask it.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you received a ransom demand? We're looking into all

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<v Speaker 2>investigative leads and tips. That was an odd way. So yes, robes.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the suggestion here? I think Harvey Levin said they

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<v Speaker 2>got it this morning. Yes, but we'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>he says. The thing says, now, you were just listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the video he has there, but they also have

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<v Speaker 2>a write up. But in the I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 2>we could also give an impression what your impression was

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<v Speaker 2>of they were they being careful or delicate in the video?

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<v Speaker 3>They were trying to be careful to not give away

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<v Speaker 3>all the contents of the ransom note, because they said

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<v Speaker 3>that this note that they received this morning had specific

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<v Speaker 3>details that one would think only the person who actually

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<v Speaker 3>abducted Nancy Guthrie would know.

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<v Speaker 4>He said there were specifics.

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<v Speaker 3>About what was left behind, about how he took or

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<v Speaker 3>this person took Nancy Guthrie anyway that they felt like

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<v Speaker 3>needed to be shared with police.

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<v Speaker 4>So they said they were contacting.

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<v Speaker 3>Police and they finally were able to get this note

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<v Speaker 3>to them to look at to investigate. But the way

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<v Speaker 3>they were talking, they felt fairly confident that this could

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<v Speaker 3>actually be the person who has Savannah Guthrie's mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get what you're saying, speaking confidently, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>also speaking as two people who are not decades in

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what this thing might look like.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thrown in the video at least robes that

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<v Speaker 2>they were talking about it releasing it before it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like they had gotten it into the hands of the

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<v Speaker 2>right people. They said they were having a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>getting in contact exactly somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>They said that they were getting the run around. They

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<v Speaker 3>weren't able to get the person they needed to get

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<v Speaker 3>to to give this note to.

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<v Speaker 4>So perhaps I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 3>They were online talking while this was happening shortly after.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know if police had that ransom, that alleged

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<v Speaker 3>ransom note in their hands before this video got out,

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<v Speaker 3>But certainly they were looking to bring news to the

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<v Speaker 3>people who count on them, and they do break news

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<v Speaker 3>off and now they also went on to say that

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<v Speaker 3>this note demanded a specific, substantial amount of bitcoin, and

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<v Speaker 3>they said the amount is in the millions. That's as

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<v Speaker 3>specific as they got. And then they said that the

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<v Speaker 3>note demands that the cryptocurrent be sent to a specific

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<v Speaker 3>Bitcoin address, and that TMZ has verified that the bitcoin

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<v Speaker 3>address is real. Can you be tracked through your bitcoin address?

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume. Look, I don't know how that works,

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<v Speaker 2>but this makes no sense. This makes less sense. The

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<v Speaker 2>idea of a ransom starts to make sense. Why you

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<v Speaker 2>would send that note to TMZ, Why you would want bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 2>why you would send an address?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>The Harvey Levin did mention in the video at least

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<v Speaker 2>as well, that this had an element of do this

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<v Speaker 2>or else to it, So that's ominous as well. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the sheriff didn't tell us much. Do you have the

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<v Speaker 2>statement up? They did put out a statement in response

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<v Speaker 2>to this. They weren't that specific, I guess roads, but

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<v Speaker 2>at least addressing all this news that's circulating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So after TMZ puts out this video, then we

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<v Speaker 3>hear from the Pima County Sheriff's department, and again, this

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<v Speaker 3>is just you know, not that long after this big

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<v Speaker 3>press conference we just all watched.

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<v Speaker 4>They wrote, we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Aware of reports circulating about possible ransom note with an

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<v Speaker 3>s in PARENTHESI regarding the investigation into Nancy Guthrie. We

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<v Speaker 3>are taking all tips and leads very seriously. Anything that

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<v Speaker 3>comes in goes directly to our detectives who are coordinating

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<v Speaker 3>with the FBI. We encourage anyone who may have any

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<v Speaker 3>information or tips to share them via this QR code.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's it. They just are saying, Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that there are reports of a possible ransom

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<v Speaker 3>note and we're looking into it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's basically what I got out of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, that's still more than he said

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<v Speaker 2>in the press conference. Yes today, but Harvey Levin as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not verified rope, so we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>This could be some Yahoo out there who decided to

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<v Speaker 2>send something in and be funny, is this a real thing?

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<v Speaker 2>If you are a real kidnapper, You're going to send

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<v Speaker 2>your ransom note to Harvey Levin.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. None of this makes sense. This just

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<v Speaker 1>adds to.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so bizarre.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the or else part of the note that

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<v Speaker 3>you were talking about apparently they put in this note

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<v Speaker 3>a deadline connected to receiving this alleged this ransom, this

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<v Speaker 3>millions in cryptocurrency, and so there was an actual date,

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<v Speaker 3>a deadline or else.

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<v Speaker 2>And we told you all here that two things jumped

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<v Speaker 2>out at the press conference, and it was to I'm

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<v Speaker 2>piggybacking here off what you said, Robes. One of them

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<v Speaker 2>was in fact when he refused to answer the ransom

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<v Speaker 2>question twice, and the other Robes was timing right talking

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<v Speaker 2>here about there was a deadline or something attached. And

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<v Speaker 2>the sheriff today thought it was odd that this urgent

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<v Speaker 2>search is going on, and he is now spacing out

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<v Speaker 2>press conferences and said see you in two days.

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<v Speaker 3>See you on Thursday morning, at forty eight hours from now.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though people are actually on the edges of their

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<v Speaker 3>seats waiting to hear, people are praying, they are hoping

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<v Speaker 3>for the best. I mean, this has captured and captivated

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<v Speaker 3>the nation, and he's gonna see you in forty eight

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<v Speaker 3>hours when.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about an urgent search and a woman that

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<v Speaker 2>could die if she doesn't get medicine in twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're three plus days in and you're saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>see you in a couple of days. That doesn't read

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<v Speaker 2>babe with the urgency he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>They must know something they do and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That is we get that, We get that. But right now, Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>what a story this has become? The idea of ransom

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense? Sending it to TMZ?

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't you make a very point? Why send it to TMZ?

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<v Speaker 1>And we have to what do you do? Right? Or

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<v Speaker 1>something like this?

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<v Speaker 2>It seems what I said, Robes, if it's an authentic note,

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<v Speaker 2>this might have been the wrong thing to do. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's a total hoax, it's the wrong thing. Like, what

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<v Speaker 2>is the right thing to do? Should you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You dare?

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<v Speaker 2>And I hate to question the news organizations, hate to

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<v Speaker 2>question Harvey, but it felt like, man, we should wait

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<v Speaker 2>till you all get back to us and let us

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<v Speaker 2>know if this is okay to right, you have the

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<v Speaker 2>choice to report, but Road, there's a woman's life on

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<v Speaker 2>the line right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Right you and I had just talked about what would

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<v Speaker 3>a news organization do, I mean, what would we do?

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<v Speaker 3>And the question is, yeah, you have the choice. Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>you give it to police. Period, do you ask them?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you mind if we let our viewers know or

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<v Speaker 3>our listeners know that we got this note and let

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<v Speaker 3>them tell you. They're probably gonna tell you. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>would mind, don't tell anyone, and then you would respect

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<v Speaker 3>the investigation because that comes first. Finding Nancy Guthrie is

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<v Speaker 3>the most important part of this entire thing. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>about getting clicks and downloads. And I know that that's

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<v Speaker 3>obviously tempting, and I understand, I get the business behind

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<v Speaker 3>what it is that we do.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you have someone's life on the line, if

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<v Speaker 4>you think.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe even for a second, that you could be jeopardizing

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<v Speaker 3>the investigation or putting her safety at risk in any way.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also would just have to say, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Were asking why would you send a ransom note to TMZ?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably for this exact reason. You want the attention. You

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<v Speaker 3>know TMZ is going to put it up or at

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<v Speaker 3>least discuss it or acknowledge it online. And now you're

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<v Speaker 3>getting attention. Now, how is.

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<v Speaker 1>That good strategy? If it's money you want that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't answer, So maybe, I mean, who knows, But

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<v Speaker 3>if it is just attention, then that would be more

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<v Speaker 3>likely than not that it would be a hoax or

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<v Speaker 3>someone who's pretending to be It's really, like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>then broadcasting it, do you get copycats?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you are you incentivizing people to, you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>insert themselves and muddy the waters in something where police

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<v Speaker 3>need to be focused on real tips, you know, And

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<v Speaker 3>so you don't want to encourage people to do anything

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<v Speaker 3>to confuse the investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's just that's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>And just hate to be critical in any way, or

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<v Speaker 2>it's the tough slightest way they made the call. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to see how putting that out helps. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to see how it is. Maybe the police don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe they think it helped. But Harvey

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<v Speaker 2>sure made it sound like they did not get an okay,

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<v Speaker 2>which they technically they actually do not.

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<v Speaker 4>Legally they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have to wish their tip.

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<v Speaker 2>But this, with all these twists and turns rogues, you

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<v Speaker 2>are the one that's more so pointing out to me

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<v Speaker 2>here lately about another twist in this story that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we should have seen coming. It's not necessarily directly related

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<v Speaker 2>to the investigation. It's now related to how the country

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<v Speaker 2>is online having a conversation about this story. And I

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<v Speaker 2>use the word conversation loosely, folks, we have to do better.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay here, We'll let you know what fight is erupting

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<v Speaker 2>online over the missing eighty four year old mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Savannah Guthrie.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we continue here on Amy and TJ here

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<v Speaker 2>coming on this evening. A breaking update. Really if we're

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<v Speaker 2>just twists and turns in the story of Savannah Scuffhery's

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<v Speaker 2>missing mother. But Robes, the conversation that's been going on online,

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation that's been going on, Maybe we shouldn't be surprised,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we shouldn't elevate it. I really don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like Robes, it's irrupting.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, because there Well, you've pointed out some political aspects,

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<v Speaker 3>how people have politicized it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually texting back and forth with my mom, you know

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<v Speaker 3>about this story, because it's just something that hits home

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<v Speaker 3>for a lot of folks, and my mom was saying

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<v Speaker 3>she made the mistake of reading comments and she said

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<v Speaker 3>it's awful. People are talking about how rich Savannah is

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<v Speaker 3>and questioning why she didn't provide better security for her

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<v Speaker 3>mom given.

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<v Speaker 4>All the money that she has.

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<v Speaker 3>People talking about savannah political affiliations that she's liberal, that

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<v Speaker 3>her husband is a known liberal, and that she deserved

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<v Speaker 3>what happened, like just because of they said. If I

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<v Speaker 3>think I heard someone say, I hope whoever took your

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<v Speaker 3>mom is an illegal alien, because that's what you deserve

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<v Speaker 3>for protecting them on the air with your media, your

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<v Speaker 3>liberal media bias.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is what people are saying and doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go and sometimes I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to give a good measure. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>overstate how fiery and heated it is gotten, don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's been a couple of randaus here and

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<v Speaker 2>there rooms. This is everything we do now turns into

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<v Speaker 2>this political discussion of what what you deserve based on

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<v Speaker 2>your political affiliation, what should happen? Like my humanity is

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<v Speaker 2>gone now because you're of that party.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all And I mean, this story is awful.

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<v Speaker 2>You started peeling realing off some of that stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>I started reading some stuff, and you're stunned that anybody

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<v Speaker 2>would put their name to some of it. Look, an

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four year old woman is missing, her health is

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<v Speaker 2>not well. Can we all we can't come together on that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because of whose mama it.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it's so sad to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, I just want to say, Savannah

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<v Speaker 3>Guthrie is one of the kindest, sweetest, most incredible women

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<v Speaker 3>who I have ever had the pleasure of working with.

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<v Speaker 3>And just to know that she's suffering right now, that

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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't know what's happening to her mom, that she's

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<v Speaker 3>devastated and scared, and the fact that people would take

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<v Speaker 3>that moment to bring either politics into it or say

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<v Speaker 3>she could have done something to prevent this.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just evil. That is cruel. That is evil.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't deserve its place in the universe, let alone

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<v Speaker 3>to see that all put online.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope she never sees it. I hope she never

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<v Speaker 4>hears about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope she never reads any of it, because that

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<v Speaker 3>stuff is brutal and it hurts, and it's just it's evil.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think there's another word for it other than

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<v Speaker 4>that I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to find a way to say that

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are saying this nasty stuff are just

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<v Speaker 2>lost or confused or having a bad day or not

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<v Speaker 2>in a good place on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine this in a in the way that's as broad

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm seeing it, not just one offs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of it has to do with immigration

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<v Speaker 3>and the fact that she lived where she lived on

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<v Speaker 3>the border of Mexico. People are making all sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>horrific comments and tying it back to this massive immigration

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<v Speaker 3>debate we're having, which is just no one has any

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<v Speaker 3>idea what has actually happened to Nancy Guthrie. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>just it blows my mind that people would take an

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<v Speaker 3>actual tragedy that is unfolding and use it to their

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<v Speaker 3>political gain. It's I know, it's the way the world works,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's sad to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't know when there might be another update.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen another something planned for this evening.

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<v Speaker 3>You have not, no and Jack will As far as

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<v Speaker 3>we know, the only thing planned is for Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>So, folks, this was a significant update in a story

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<v Speaker 2>that has really captivated the country for a number of reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a mystery all its own, but now you attach

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most famous journalists in the country and

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<v Speaker 2>this is just gone bananas.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty four years old.

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<v Speaker 2>We can all hope she comes home safely, but folks,

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<v Speaker 2>we will hop on if there are any other significant updates.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, top right corner of your Apple podcast app

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<v Speaker 2>have been a lot these days, but we always appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you going along with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Some TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Holmes on behalf of my dear Amy roboc. We will

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you also, what do you think