Speaker 1: What's that ad.
Speaker 2: Spooky joky, I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I'm go, said.
Speaker 2: Nadas. Hey boo, it's me Roz.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have such a fun episode today with one
Speaker 3: of our favorites, Jess Ambrose of the wildly popular podcast
Speaker 3: Chatty Broad's. We're gonna get into that in a moment,
Speaker 3: but I have got something good. Ooh, this is good,
Speaker 3: this is good, this is good.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So over this weekend I was doing the show that
Speaker 3: you know we've talked about a million times, Golden Girls,
Speaker 3: so fun. We do it on stage. I had a
Speaker 3: small little part, but I made the most of it.
Speaker 3: Now we had different celebrity guests making surprise cameos, I
Speaker 3: mean surprise for the audience, cameos on stage, and it
Speaker 3: was it was so fun. Every show had a different
Speaker 3: celebrity guest. Well, we happened to have movie star a
Speaker 3: list movie star slash bonafide honk Asaurus Chris Pine.
Speaker 2: He was in the cast just for the one day.
Speaker 2: He showed up.
Speaker 3: He was a pro, he had his own costume, he
Speaker 3: knew all of his lines.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was great. He was great.
Speaker 3: I mean, of course, when it's over, you want to
Speaker 3: be like, Wow, you're really good. It's like, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: Chris Pine anyway, so of course, you know me, I
Speaker 3: gotta talk about ghosts. The first thing I thought of
Speaker 3: when I heard that Chrispine was going to do this
Speaker 3: was that episode a couple of months ago with Lou
Speaker 3: Taylor Poochie, the actor who also starred in a movie
Speaker 3: with Chris Pine a number of years ago, and Lou
Speaker 3: had the most incredible ghost story where go back and
Speaker 3: listen Lou Taylor Poochie. Basically, the gist of the story
Speaker 3: is that they were working on this movie on location.
Speaker 3: They were in this old hotel and Lou had this
Speaker 3: experience at nighttime with this ghost in his room. And
Speaker 3: then the next day in the makeup chair he's telling
Speaker 3: the story and chris Pine was like, this is crazy.
Speaker 3: She was also in my room the ghost. There's more
Speaker 3: to the story, but whatever. So when I heard that
Speaker 3: Chris Pine was going to be in it, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I want to I want to ask him about that.
Speaker 3: But also it's kind of a quick, fast paced thing,
Speaker 3: like we meet, we go over it, and then we
Speaker 3: go do it, you know, So I was like, I
Speaker 3: probably it probably won't be like appropriate.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like if it comes up, it comes up.
Speaker 3: Well, it was actually really strange because I left the room.
Speaker 3: This was you know, we had already gone over everything
Speaker 3: for the show and now we're just kind of chilling
Speaker 3: and having a good time. And I had left the
Speaker 3: room for a little bit, actually really like two seconds.
Speaker 3: I think it went to the bathroom or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I come back and they're talking about ghosts. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is amazing. I'm like, does everyone did everyone see that?
Speaker 3: I didn't bring it up. I didn't bring it. It
Speaker 3: wasn't me.
Speaker 2: Somebody else brought it up. And it was because.
Speaker 3: Martin, who's in the cast, was talking about a near
Speaker 3: death experience type thing I believe, and then it turned
Speaker 3: into us, you know, people in the room talking about
Speaker 3: their beliefs and whatever, and everyone in the cast that
Speaker 3: I'm friends with I had already I've had on this podcast,
Speaker 3: and they obviously know me. They're very very very close
Speaker 3: friends of mine, so they all know that I'm the
Speaker 3: ghost Lady. So I interject and I'm like, oh my,
Speaker 3: you guys are talking about ghosts like that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's like my thing. I love talking about ghosts, and
Speaker 3: Chris Pine's like, yeah, I love that stuff, and he's like,
Speaker 3: how can people not believe in it? Like it's so
Speaker 3: real and everyone's had these experiences. And I was like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm like actually really into this stuff and
Speaker 3: I have a podcast about it, and you came up
Speaker 3: on my podcast one time.
Speaker 2: He's like what.
Speaker 3: I was like, Yeah, Lou Taylor Pucci came on my
Speaker 3: podcast and he was like, oh my god, I tell
Speaker 3: that story all the time. And he told the story
Speaker 3: the exact same story Lou Taylor Bouchie. I mean, he
Speaker 3: told it from his side, but it was all the
Speaker 3: exact same details. Not that I thought that Lutailer Poochie
Speaker 3: was lying or anything, but it was just amazing to
Speaker 3: hear his side of it and he was so excited
Speaker 3: to share it. And then like later on, I talked
Speaker 3: to him a little bit more about ghosts and stuff,
Speaker 3: and I said to him, I didn't ask him to
Speaker 3: come on the podcast. Sorry, that's not I'm not leading
Speaker 3: up to me revealing that I did not ask him
Speaker 3: to be on, but I did say, would you be
Speaker 3: okay with me sharing that you that I talked to
Speaker 3: you about this on the pod and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: of course, he was so cool.
Speaker 2: He was awesome. Either way, it was you know.
Speaker 3: I of course, one day hopefully I'll be able to
Speaker 3: have him on the pod and we can talk about
Speaker 3: it because it is such a good story. But either way,
Speaker 3: I got to have that experience and it was so
Speaker 3: fun and I was so excited to share it with you,
Speaker 3: and now I just did. So anyway, that's that. Let's
Speaker 3: get into this episode with Jess. I love her so much.
Speaker 3: She has been on this podcast twice. She was on
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one on February fourth, and she was
Speaker 3: also on in twenty nineteen on the fifteenth of August.
Speaker 3: So go back and listen if you're not familiar, because
Speaker 3: she shares a lot of her ghost experiences. Of course,
Speaker 3: ghosts are obsessed with her, so she has a ton
Speaker 3: of stories. And I have been on her podcast, Chatty Broad's,
Speaker 3: which she hosts with Becca Martinez and it's giant podcast.
Speaker 3: And I know that we have a lot of listeners
Speaker 3: to this show and Chatty Broad's, so shout out to
Speaker 3: the Broad Squad. I love them so much and listen
Speaker 3: to their show because They're just great and I celebrate
Speaker 3: Halloween with them every year. Oh also, duh, this is
Speaker 3: on video too, so there's a link in the description
Speaker 3: of this episode, or you can just go on YouTube
Speaker 3: and typing ghosted by ros Hernandez, Jess Ambrose whatever. Jess
Speaker 3: looks so cute in the video. There are a couple
Speaker 3: of visual components to this episode, so it might you
Speaker 3: might want to watch.
Speaker 2: The video for that. Either way, check that out.
Speaker 3: Okay, I hope you enjoyed this episode with my friend
Speaker 3: Jess Ambrose on with the show, you guys, I am
Speaker 3: joined once again by an absolute favorite.
Speaker 2: She is wearing the cutest Betty Boo top.
Speaker 3: Oh my, She's always serving some sort of look gorgeous
Speaker 3: and put on the glasses for the cameras.
Speaker 1: For those watching, which you should be.
Speaker 3: She's known for throwing shade. She's very honestly, she's always
Speaker 3: looking for problems.
Speaker 1: I came on here to argue with you. We decided
Speaker 1: we're gonna fight because I walked in and you decided
Speaker 1: to look at this sexy today and I was trying
Speaker 1: to turn a look and then you show up with
Speaker 1: that gorgeous face. So now we're fighting.
Speaker 2: See you would be the worst housewife. That's not how
Speaker 2: it works. You gotta get more personal and more.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw this drink at you because you are
Speaker 1: too good stunning, okay, and I'm feeling insecure.
Speaker 3: So Jess Ambrose, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me on. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to see you.
Speaker 2: I'm always happy to see you.
Speaker 1: It makes my heart so happy.
Speaker 2: I know, and the ghosts are always happy to see you.
Speaker 1: The ghosts honestly won't leave me alone. I feel like
Speaker 1: I know when it's time to come back and be
Speaker 1: with you and be on the podcast, because they'll be
Speaker 1: quiet for a little while after I come on this show,
Speaker 1: and then a few months into it, they're knocking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like, you're due to talk to Roz.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I hear you, Goss. I will go
Speaker 1: visit one of my favorite people. You don't have to
Speaker 1: push me, you don't have to scare my child. Okay,
Speaker 1: Oh no, she's actually okay. This round hasn't been as spooky.
Speaker 1: This round, this round of spookiness hasn't been That's what
Speaker 1: I feel like. It comes in. The hauntings in my
Speaker 1: house definitely come in rounds.
Speaker 2: I could see that, Hey, maybe it's like an anniversary
Speaker 2: of something that happens in your house. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of that.
Speaker 2: It could be. Is it always the same time or
Speaker 2: is it just.
Speaker 1: This is when I wish I would journal, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because I have no concept. I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels it does feel like it's around
Speaker 1: the same time, and I guess we're nearing spooky season,
Speaker 1: but it started up again about like two months ago.
Speaker 2: Do you think the ghosts know that it's almost Halloween.
Speaker 1: I think they're ready to party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like, this is kind of our moment.
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about this before, but there's always Honestly,
Speaker 1: people are rude. They have different guesses about ghosts, and
Speaker 1: I would just imagine that if they're here, they are
Speaker 1: still wanting to party, right.
Speaker 2: It could be. Yeah, I'm sure some I.
Speaker 1: Mean people are saying that it's only scary spooky things.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but what about like the ones who
Speaker 1: want to stay here? This was my recent revelation in
Speaker 1: my own mind about the ghosts.
Speaker 3: Let's see, And this is judgmental of me, but I
Speaker 3: always just feel like a lot of time. Now there's
Speaker 3: a lot of different activity that could be taken place.
Speaker 3: Sure is it connected to a human or could it
Speaker 3: just be some energy in the air. But when it's
Speaker 3: connected to a human spirit, I always it's my judgmental thing.
Speaker 3: It always seems sad to me, whether it seems like
Speaker 3: it or not, like okay, but it seems like, oh,
Speaker 3: this ghost is like loves it. It's like, honey, like
Speaker 3: the party's over, Like this party's over.
Speaker 2: There's another one.
Speaker 1: Together, another one's well, that's my thing, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's my brain, my non housewife real housewife brain
Speaker 1: where I'm trying to be like positive about it, but
Speaker 1: I always think about like the ghosts have to be hot, right,
Speaker 1: because the only people who want to stay here and
Speaker 1: not go some more better were the ones who like
Speaker 1: lived an amazing sexy life on earth, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like the star football player who was like,
Speaker 1: I live my best life here and.
Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere like see, yes, you know.
Speaker 3: So it is sort of like with the living people
Speaker 3: where you're forty, you still wear your football jersey.
Speaker 2: Exactly, gotcha.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what the ghosties are or is.
Speaker 3: It somebody that's like I didn't get to be my
Speaker 3: hottest self. Okay, so I'm I'm not gonna leave until
Speaker 3: I'm the hottest one here or the hottest I can
Speaker 3: leave that too, like that too.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Or maybe it has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with any of them.
Speaker 1: Maybe one day I'll haunt all the mean girls from
Speaker 1: my high school.
Speaker 2: That would be fun.
Speaker 1: That's kind of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or their children.
Speaker 1: Sorry, you don't deserve this. This was your parents' fault.
Speaker 1: But you know, now we're all older, we've all passed.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm coming back to haunt you. It's just
Speaker 1: part of what you know. It's just what has to happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cyclical nature of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. That's not sad at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So what's going on? We need to recap your house?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so I remember here's what I remember from
Speaker 3: you telling me this house that you live in. There
Speaker 3: was somebody brought over some dolls that you used to
Speaker 3: live in the house.
Speaker 1: Dolls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody dropped off a photograph.
Speaker 1: I'm an old man.
Speaker 3: An old man dropped off a photograph. The old man disappeared.
Speaker 3: Haven't you heard things in your attic?
Speaker 1: Yes, we'd heard things up in the attic, to the
Speaker 1: point where one day my husband went and took a
Speaker 1: ladder and opened up the attic and normally have like
Speaker 1: all our Christmas decorations and everything right near the entrance
Speaker 1: to it easy access, all of those boxes boxes had
Speaker 1: been pushed to the back of the attic. So either
Speaker 1: someone's living in our attic possibilities. When we've talked about
Speaker 1: this on our podcast, the amount of messages from people
Speaker 1: talking about someone living up there, I'm like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: needs to stop. I don't want to hear about that.
Speaker 1: I can handle ghosts, not someone living in my eye.
Speaker 2: How could they get Is there another entrance?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Oh no, to think that them having to go through
Speaker 3: your house when you're not looking, that is the scariest thing.
Speaker 1: Scari so much scarier.
Speaker 3: But okay, so we know it's again ghosts. Your theory,
Speaker 3: this is their time now, So that means that they
Speaker 3: probably it's sorry, but you either are Halloween or Christmas.
Speaker 3: And if they don't like Christmas.
Speaker 2: They're pushing them.
Speaker 3: They're pushing the toys back, is what I'm saying. They're like,
Speaker 3: it's not time for Christmas. I'm a Halloween ghost.
Speaker 1: It's like a crampus situation.
Speaker 2: Could be.
Speaker 1: That movie really freaked me out. It was fantastic, funny,
Speaker 1: but it really scared me. Like I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was where I was laughing the whole time, but
Speaker 1: it affected me for about a week after. I just
Speaker 1: kept getting the images in my head.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: Wait, so, okay, what else has happened? We tried to
Speaker 3: use a spirit box at your house. We got very little.
Speaker 2: Wait didn't we get a name? What was the name
Speaker 2: that we got?
Speaker 1: It was like it was Alvin or something. It was okay, Alvin, Alvin,
Speaker 1: But I don't whatever Alvin and the Chipmunks Christmas.
Speaker 2: Could be now could be?
Speaker 3: So has Alvin or anybody what your dog has had?
Speaker 3: Hasn't your dog had some weirdness?
Speaker 1: Well that was actually, uh a few years ago. The
Speaker 1: dog was acting very strange, same house, same house. Now.
Speaker 1: I guess my little one occasionally will like perk up
Speaker 1: and act a little weird. But she can be like
Speaker 1: that sometimes, so I can't judge it.
Speaker 3: Didn't she says she saw people or she didn't. I
Speaker 3: thought she You told me one time that she was
Speaker 3: like she was hearing people or seeing people or no,
Speaker 3: did I make that.
Speaker 2: Up the dog? No, your daughter.
Speaker 1: I thought you said my dog, And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm like your casually telling me that my dog told
Speaker 1: me about the people. Like that's the part that I'd
Speaker 1: get a little more freaked out of.
Speaker 2: No, didn't your daughter say something oh yes, as in.
Speaker 1: Her Oh no, no, no she did. There was a
Speaker 1: time when she was talking about seeing people in her room.
Speaker 1: We moved her bedroom because her original we had like
Speaker 1: her little room that we had her sleeping And when
Speaker 1: we first moved there, and she was really young, and
Speaker 1: she kept talking about seeing the woman in the closet,
Speaker 1: which granted, we all we all get a little scared
Speaker 1: of closets when we're young.
Speaker 2: Right, tell me about it.
Speaker 1: But so when she said that, I was a little
Speaker 1: bit like, Okay, all of our babysitters have told us
Speaker 1: that our house is haunted, right, so we would that's
Speaker 1: Those were the first people we were hearing in from
Speaker 1: were the babysitters. My husband and I we went really
Speaker 1: picking up on it that much, but then we kept
Speaker 1: hearing it from them and We're like, I'm just not
Speaker 1: getting that vibe. And then she starts talking about woman
Speaker 1: in the closet. I'm seeing some weird orbs in her monitor,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying not to like get too freaked out
Speaker 1: of it. And she was just having nightmares. We moved
Speaker 1: her and we put her in the other room in
Speaker 1: our house. It's like attached to ours. Basically, She's almost
Speaker 1: like in our room with like a little thin wall
Speaker 1: because of those. Yeah, because it was just she was
Speaker 1: getting so scared all the time, and it was I
Speaker 1: could not, for the life of me when she would
Speaker 1: call me in the middle of the night go into
Speaker 1: the room, knowing that she's seeing that, and like stay
Speaker 1: in the room and be like it's okay.
Speaker 3: That's why I will never be a parent. That's why
Speaker 3: I will never be a parent. If a child told
Speaker 3: me that, I would say, you're.
Speaker 1: On your own, sorry, bye. No, the monitors are the
Speaker 1: scariest thing in the entire world. The baby monitors are terrifying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care if anything's happening in your house or not.
Speaker 1: When you stare at that and you're like, when my
Speaker 1: husband will be gone, I'm alone at home looking at
Speaker 1: that thing, I'm like, i know I'm going to see
Speaker 1: something move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is paranormal activity.
Speaker 1: It is so scary, but so he moved her in
Speaker 1: the back and then for a long time she was okay,
Speaker 1: and then like two years ago, she started kind of
Speaker 1: having a series of scary dreams and being like, it
Speaker 1: feels like there's somebody in the room. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe she's just getting older. I don't know, like she's
Speaker 1: maybe like getting ideas from movies she's watching. I try
Speaker 1: to be careful, but I don't know. Maybe something snuck
Speaker 1: in that spooked her in a movie. But in the
Speaker 1: past two months, again out of nowhere, she keeps talking
Speaker 1: about the lady in the closet, which she doesn't have.
Speaker 1: Like she's the type of person that if you're like,
Speaker 1: remember what happened yesterday, she's like, no, idea just does
Speaker 1: not recall. And that's like a very clear memory. That's
Speaker 1: all a sudden back. She just remember when I used
Speaker 1: to sleep in that bedroom when I was a baby,
Speaker 1: and there was the woman in the closet, and I
Speaker 1: used to tell you about the woman in the closet
Speaker 1: and she'd see me at night.
Speaker 2: Has she described what this woman looks like?
Speaker 1: She said she looked old.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're the one that said that all these ghosts
Speaker 2: are hot. I mean, I'm like old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, but the way you said old
Speaker 3: made me think that she I.
Speaker 1: Don't really know. She said old, long hair, which could
Speaker 1: be very hot, which sounds like a really attractive, beautiful
Speaker 1: older woman.
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm really sorry. The way that you said old
Speaker 3: really made me picture that lady from the Shining.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't get like a great sense from her. Normally,
Speaker 1: she describes things really well, and when I've asked her questions,
Speaker 1: she kind of seems to just be like she's older,
Speaker 1: she has long hair, but it's almost like she doesn't
Speaker 1: want to give me details or maybe they're too fuzzy
Speaker 1: for her. But she talks about it now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, which is strange because of now the recent
Speaker 1: happenings in the house. Like what, okay, so it was
Speaker 1: really there was no movement for a long time, like
Speaker 1: truly after you came. Maybe it has something to do
Speaker 1: with you. Maybe you're my little like energetic conduit who
Speaker 1: comes into the house and like brings peace upon it.
Speaker 1: Sure I need you back, pat you back on the
Speaker 1: podcast because after we did the Spirit Box, Alvin spoke
Speaker 1: to us gave us, you know, do.
Speaker 2: You think she's Elvin?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a unique name.
Speaker 2: It's possible.
Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know, But it was quiet. I wasn't
Speaker 1: really getting much. I kind of after you brought the
Speaker 1: spirit Box, I like started to download tons of apps
Speaker 1: on my phone and I'm like, I'm gonna do all
Speaker 1: like that stuff in my what's the name of it,
Speaker 1: not spirit box but EVPs. It's not EVPs, but it's
Speaker 1: something like the spirit box basically, but it's an app on.
Speaker 2: On Okay, Yeah, there's a bunch of them.
Speaker 1: So I downloaded like all of those, and so I
Speaker 1: was just going throughout the house and seeing, you know,
Speaker 1: where the frequency was higher and if I heard any okay.
Speaker 1: And so I was like like checking the frequency and
Speaker 1: that was scaring the living daylights out of me because
Speaker 1: it was just like exploding.
Speaker 3: Well and the thing with that is it's the electronics,
Speaker 3: it will, you know, right.
Speaker 1: So it's like, Okay, it's in my living room, I
Speaker 1: have a TV. Maybe we're just living on like a
Speaker 1: weird magnet hill.
Speaker 2: And sometimes that can cause paranormal activity. That can cause
Speaker 2: maybe also being skeptical, it could cause people to think
Speaker 2: that it's paranormal activity because weird things are happening. I mean,
Speaker 2: it can be a lot of things.
Speaker 1: It's kind of common, and that's what I've been processing lately,
Speaker 1: like maybe that's what's been happening, because a lot of
Speaker 1: it was, you know, minus what my daughter saw sounds
Speaker 1: like hearing voices, high pitched ringing, you know that type
Speaker 1: of thing. Well, I guess the box moving the dolls.
Speaker 1: It's all very creepy. I'm just trying to justify not
Speaker 1: get so scared because it was super quiet. And then
Speaker 1: a couple months ago, in the middle of the day,
Speaker 1: my husband, Evan and I were both home and I
Speaker 1: was on the phone with someone and he was in
Speaker 1: the living room and he's just like, Jessica, Jessica, do
Speaker 1: you hear that that the talking, like the voices in
Speaker 1: this room right now? And I'm like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? And he's panicking and I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't hear anything. And so he's sitting on the couch
Speaker 1: tripping out, and I get off the phone and I'm
Speaker 1: kind of going about my business and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I hear like in the
Speaker 1: middle of our room, like right in front of us,
Speaker 1: two people speaking. It was very strange.
Speaker 2: What did they sound like?
Speaker 1: It was like kind of whisper talking like, but it
Speaker 1: sounded like a conversation.
Speaker 2: Did they sound hot?
Speaker 1: They sounded really attractive.
Speaker 2: Actually, you're so hot?
Speaker 1: No, you're high, you're hotter. You're really bothering me how
Speaker 1: hot you are. I'm feeling so insecure and jealous. Now
Speaker 1: so hot, You're so sexy? Okay, But so we're hearing
Speaker 1: this back and forth, and it's very weird because it's
Speaker 1: almost like, you know, how sound just goes okay, because
Speaker 1: in this room there's two voices like in the center
Speaker 1: speaking and we can hear them so distinctly, but we
Speaker 1: have nothing on, so that's no TV or radio or
Speaker 1: anything in the next room. And it was like I
Speaker 1: can hear it here, but not if I go in
Speaker 1: the next room. And we were both just like sitting
Speaker 1: there so quiet.
Speaker 2: And you really couldn't make out any words.
Speaker 1: No, no, But I also have a hard time with
Speaker 1: the EVPs too, Lord knows, I can never understand anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll figure this out later. Yeah, but so that happened,
Speaker 1: and we're like, that was really weird. That kind of
Speaker 1: felt very freaky. But again, explanation like maybe there was
Speaker 1: something somewhere that was like picking up on some frequency
Speaker 1: and we heard something that sounded like voices. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But then two days later, my daughter is at school,
Speaker 1: so it's just the two of us at home and
Speaker 1: we're at camp, doesn't matter. The two of us are
Speaker 1: at home. And the way that our bedroom is set
Speaker 1: up is we have our bedroom and then her room
Speaker 1: is attached to ours, and there's the door, but the
Speaker 1: lock is from inside inside our bedroom, not inside her bedroom,
Speaker 1: so like we could lock it. Okay, it was just
Speaker 1: set up that way. Don't know why. We've never touched
Speaker 1: the lock ever, none of us have. So middle of
Speaker 1: the day. She has, of course the nicest bathroom in
Speaker 1: the house, big old shower, so when she is not home,
Speaker 1: we typically will shower in that shower. It's the best
Speaker 1: water pressure too, So my husband goes in like as
Speaker 1: he always does when she's gone. He goes into her bathroom,
Speaker 1: goes through our room into her room. In her bathroom,
Speaker 1: he's showering. I'm in the kitchen doing dishes, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I hear a pounding and he's going
Speaker 1: Jessica Jessica unlocked the door, and I'm like what, and
Speaker 1: I go in the door. Our daughter's door has been
Speaker 1: closed and locked from my side, and so he's stuck
Speaker 1: inside her room with the door locked. He's freaking out
Speaker 1: because first of all, he's like, I did not close
Speaker 1: that door. I never He's like, if it's just you
Speaker 1: and I home, he never closes the door before he's
Speaker 1: going to go and shower, he just showers. He's like,
Speaker 1: I didn't close the door, and I absolutely didn't lock
Speaker 1: the door. So we're going, okay, maybe you did close
Speaker 1: it and you're just absolutely blanking and maybe one of
Speaker 1: us met or our daughter messed with the lock earlier.
Speaker 1: But it felt weird. It felt really like scared, and
Speaker 1: it scared him like he did not like it, and
Speaker 1: we both felt super uncomfortable a few days after that.
Speaker 2: But that's not the closet room, right.
Speaker 1: That's not the closet room. That's her new room.
Speaker 2: Okay, does it have a closet not.
Speaker 1: It's like a tiny little pull door. It's not like
Speaker 1: a little tiny walk and like her old one. Her
Speaker 1: old one was like one of those ones like you
Speaker 1: open the door and it's like looks dark inside and
Speaker 1: the lady apparently lives in there. Okay, So a few
Speaker 1: days later, uh, my daughter loses a tooth, and she
Speaker 1: had this whole thing where like she wasn't ready to
Speaker 1: give the tooth to the tooth fairy. So she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it or it was something like she
Speaker 1: wasn't ready or she's like wanted to make it easier
Speaker 1: for the tooth fairy. I don't remember, but she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it next to my bed on her
Speaker 1: little table, not under the pillow. So the next morning
Speaker 1: when we wake up, she's like, mom my, tooth's gone.
Speaker 1: And I go in and it's not on the table
Speaker 1: and we didn't touch it. I find the tooth across
Speaker 1: the room on another dresser.
Speaker 3: Do you think the toothpairy came in and was like
Speaker 3: I hear I heard, there's a fresh one for me.
Speaker 3: And then she's like, wait a minute, this is not
Speaker 3: under the pillow. It's very simple instructions.
Speaker 1: She's like, I only ask one thing, and one thing
Speaker 1: I ask. Humans cannot figure it out under the pillow
Speaker 1: or it means nothing to me.
Speaker 3: She's like, I don't want your dresser tooth. I want
Speaker 3: the pillow tooth. That's kind of my thing. It's been
Speaker 3: that way for a long time.
Speaker 1: Don't come in here and try to change the rules.
Speaker 1: Who you think you are that you can just walk
Speaker 1: in here thousands of years into my business and stop.
Speaker 2: Putting it under the I'm not rebranded.
Speaker 1: It's not time for that, honey. But yeah, the tooth
Speaker 1: was on the opposite side of the room. And again
Speaker 1: we break it down. Maybe in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: my daughter slept walk, slept.
Speaker 2: Walk sleepwalk, sleepwalked, slept walked.
Speaker 3: Slept walked, slept walk, swapped.
Speaker 1: Maybe she did that, but she doesn't normally do that.
Speaker 2: That I'm to have a monitor. Yeah, did you watch it?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not like a recorded one. But I didn't
Speaker 1: hear anything. She didn't wake up in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night and like go to the bathroom or anything
Speaker 1: like that. And it was freaky. And so then a
Speaker 1: few days after that, I was in this studio. So
Speaker 1: you know, our studio is behind our house. I had
Speaker 1: to go record something in the studio. So Evan went.
Speaker 1: He set up everything for me and was a studio door.
Speaker 1: He went back in the house. Here's the thing about Evan,
Speaker 1: one of our biggest fights is that he never closes
Speaker 1: or locks doors like we always fight about it. I've
Speaker 1: been with a man for fifteen years. He still can't
Speaker 1: figure it out. And he knows. It's like my biggest
Speaker 1: pet peeve. So I know he always walks in and
Speaker 1: doesn't normally close the door, definitely doesn't lock the door.
Speaker 1: We have, you know, a door and a gate going
Speaker 1: outside to the studio. I record for ten minutes and
Speaker 1: I come back in and the gate is locked and
Speaker 1: the door is locked to get into the house. I don't.
Speaker 1: I had no and I'm pounding on it. I'm like, Evan,
Speaker 1: why would you do that? And he goes, I didn't
Speaker 1: even close it and so double locked. So it's just
Speaker 1: feeling very spooky and very ominous again. And I don't
Speaker 1: really like like the feeling that much. Sometimes it doesn't
Speaker 1: bother me. Sometimes the energy doesn't feel so bookie.
Speaker 2: But why is it locking you places?
Speaker 1: And I don't like that. It's locking me out, locking
Speaker 1: you out, it's locking me out of my house.
Speaker 2: Are you away?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Do you think it's trying to get to Evan?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Do you think the ghost? Do you
Speaker 1: think the old Lady ghost is like super attracted to him.
Speaker 1: Probably she thinks he's a sexy pa. He's a cute guy.
Speaker 1: I know you need to leave the daughter. You both
Speaker 1: of you guys need to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: You know, he got so freaked out once in the house,
Speaker 1: and the man doesn't get scared very often. He got
Speaker 1: so freaked out once I was out of town. He
Speaker 1: took our daughter and he went to my mother in
Speaker 1: law's house to spend the night because he was too
Speaker 1: scared to sleep there.
Speaker 2: Why did he get so freaked out.
Speaker 1: Because he was working in his studio and he had
Speaker 1: a friend over who was working with him, and so
Speaker 1: the friend saw this as well, and like two objects
Speaker 1: like flew across the room while they were recording. This
Speaker 1: was a while ago.
Speaker 2: But so you live in a full one haunted house.
Speaker 1: I think so, and you I feel like you've lived
Speaker 1: in many feels that way. We definitely had a house
Speaker 1: before that gave us weird energy, but nothing ever happened.
Speaker 1: It was just like, oh, this house is strange, and
Speaker 1: we both had a moment where we connected over it.
Speaker 1: But we in the course of being together for you know,
Speaker 1: eleven twelve years at least, living together. We've moved like
Speaker 1: seven times, and then this was the one house that
Speaker 1: we've been in now for a long time. So we
Speaker 1: both didn't really experience haunted homes when we were young.
Speaker 1: So I didn't feel like I grew up being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my house feels haunted. I felt horrified because,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up very religious, I was always very
Speaker 1: afraid of my sins when I was in best right,
Speaker 1: But I wasn't scared of the ghosts.
Speaker 2: So, okay to recap, Yes, there's an old hot woman,
Speaker 2: very attractive cougar. Maybe I could use that word. I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe like a like a fade done way, Okay,
Speaker 1: a beautiful older woman, sure, long hair, long hair after
Speaker 1: your husband apparently maybe doesn't like my daughter and certainly
Speaker 1: doesn't like me, doesn't like teeth, is not a fan
Speaker 1: of teeth, Maybe doesn't have anymore. Maybe she's jealous.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's an old woman that doesn't have teeth and
Speaker 2: she wanted that tooth.
Speaker 1: Do you think that she's trying to put together a
Speaker 1: whole new rack of teeth to attract my husband.
Speaker 2: One at a time.
Speaker 1: My daughter is losing teeth rapidly, so she's in the
Speaker 1: right place.
Speaker 2: Does the tooth fairy eventually get that tooth?
Speaker 1: Yes, the tooth fairy got the tooth. The tooth fairy
Speaker 1: got the tooth immediately. I'm like, we're wrapping this tooth
Speaker 1: up now. I'm not leaving this haunted tooth around my house.
Speaker 2: Do you keep those teeth?
Speaker 1: I've kept the teeth, and I feel so straight. It's
Speaker 1: sweet because you're like, oh, it's my kids, But there
Speaker 1: there's an ominous feeling about collecting teeth.
Speaker 3: Somewhere in my parents' house, you will find a little
Speaker 3: envelope that has my teeth that I grew out of
Speaker 3: my body.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Do you think one day, you know how they have
Speaker 1: now archaeological digs and they're finding things. Uh huh, this
Speaker 1: current culture that has been happening now for the past
Speaker 1: what fifty years, we've been collecting teeth. Maybe one day
Speaker 1: they're just going to find envelopes in all these houses.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, these people were discussed.
Speaker 1: Why do these people collect teeth?
Speaker 2: Yeah? In jar?
Speaker 1: Is it in envelopes?
Speaker 2: Exactly? I don't know. It's so gross, it's disgusting, So
Speaker 2: is that it?
Speaker 1: I think so? But you know, I'm not thinking that
Speaker 1: it'll be it because it feels like it's just starting
Speaker 1: to ramp up a little bit again.
Speaker 2: But you want to keep it right. You don't want
Speaker 2: to get rid of this. It's good content.
Speaker 1: It is good content. It just it depends on my moods.
Speaker 2: Let's see where it goes.
Speaker 1: That's sometimes I'm like, ghosty, I am feeling adventurous and
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you. Where are you at, Alvin?
Speaker 1: I want to speak to you. But sometimes they're I've
Speaker 1: talked to you before about the different energy shifts in
Speaker 1: the house. Like sometimes the haunting feeling doesn't feel ominous,
Speaker 1: and then I'm all about it. I'm like, this is fun,
Speaker 1: this is good content. I don't feel nervous. But when
Speaker 1: there's that ominous energy, I'm like, I'm down for it
Speaker 1: to be gone.
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing with ghosts, like just by nature,
Speaker 3: the idea of it is invasive and not asking for consent,
Speaker 3: Like it's basically just I'm gonna appear here and hopefully
Speaker 3: you're okay with it, or maybe you're not.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna lock you in a room.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw some shit, you know, And like sometimes
Speaker 3: that's fine.
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it depends on my mood. Sometimes I want someone
Speaker 1: to stay li after one of my parties, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I need them to go home immediately so I can
Speaker 1: take a bath and go to bed.
Speaker 2: What are these parties I want to go?
Speaker 1: I mean they're imaginary.
Speaker 2: Invite me.
Speaker 3: Hey, can I tell you about a famous story? Okay,
Speaker 3: this is actually shifting gears to something more alien.
Speaker 1: Well, you know it's.
Speaker 2: Not here you go with you know, have an amazing story.
Speaker 1: No, but it's just interesting because I've definitely when we've
Speaker 1: talked about certain like certain happenings, I always get messages
Speaker 1: from people saying, maybe it's actually not ghost and maybe
Speaker 1: it's more like an alien portal, like what's the word,
Speaker 1: like a little a little hole in the dimensions where
Speaker 1: we are, Okay, because it always feels like different energy.
Speaker 1: There's maybe people are like passing.
Speaker 2: It's a portal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Harry Potter train station. But in
Speaker 1: my living room there's always people arriving, coming and going.
Speaker 1: It's aliens.
Speaker 2: Okay, could be please continue.
Speaker 3: Well, let's see if you've ever had anything like this
Speaker 3: happened to you. This is the story of the Kelly
Speaker 3: Hopkinsville case, which would also be a good drag name
Speaker 3: Kelly Hopkinsville Case coming to the stage. So this happened
Speaker 3: in the Kelly Hopkins Kelly or Hopkinsville area of Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Thought it was a lady.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it actually is two county or two
Speaker 3: city or towns Kelly and Hopkinsville. They're in Christian County, Kentucky.
Speaker 3: And fun fact about that area, up until twenty nineteen,
Speaker 3: sixty percent of all bowling balls were made in that area.
Speaker 1: Fun so, good time, strap on.
Speaker 3: Your bowling shoes, because I got a doozy for you.
Speaker 1: I got a strike, I like, what's bowling terminology?
Speaker 3: I got a big old ball of a story for
Speaker 3: you to put your fingers in. So this took place
Speaker 3: on August twenty first, nineteen fifty five, so we just
Speaker 3: missed the anniversary. How did you celebrate the anniversary of.
Speaker 1: The Kelly Hopkins I think back, this.
Speaker 3: Was August twenty four first, nineteen fifty five. So this
Speaker 3: involves Billy Ray Taylor, not Cyrus. Not Cyrus. Billy Ray Taylor.
Speaker 3: He was visiting Kelly, Kentucky from Pennsylvania. He was staying
Speaker 3: with his friend named Elmer, also known as Lucky Elmer
Speaker 3: Lucky Sutton, what a name, and.
Speaker 2: And his family. There was eleven people total that were
Speaker 2: in this house. And Billy Ray.
Speaker 3: He's you know, it's a hot night, and he's like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I need to go get some water.
Speaker 3: So he goes out to the well. I mean this
Speaker 3: was like they had a well. They didn't have electronics,
Speaker 3: like this was out there. Okay, So goes out to
Speaker 3: the well.
Speaker 2: And he looks up and he sees this silvery object
Speaker 2: in the sky and it has an exhaust behind it
Speaker 2: that he describes as having all the colors of the rainbow.
Speaker 2: An early pride.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe the song Born this Way was playing.
Speaker 3: No just kidding, but so he's hearing like this hissing
Speaker 3: noise and then it kind of lands behind the farmhouse
Speaker 3: and then I guess he sees it like go over,
Speaker 3: it stops and then it plops down like somewhere behind
Speaker 3: the farmhouse. So he goes in and he's like, guys,
Speaker 3: remember how I was just getting water. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: where is it? We're thirsty And he's like, okay, but
Speaker 3: I saw this silver thing up there with like a
Speaker 3: rainbow behind it, And they're like Billy Ray more like
Speaker 3: silly Ray. Okay, Billy Elmer's like not having that, not
Speaker 3: having it? So whatever, Like I think, about an hour
Speaker 3: goes by. Some reports say and then the dogs are barking,
Speaker 3: which is also my favorite thing to say. When I've
Speaker 3: worn heels all day, I goes to go, oh, my
Speaker 3: dogs are barking. Do you ever say that? It's a
Speaker 3: fun one steal it. Oh, my dogs are barking.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's the perfect way to describe it.
Speaker 3: So the dogs are barking, okay, and so all the
Speaker 3: other people in the house are like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: Billy Ray, not silly Ray. So they go outside and
Speaker 3: they see something approaching them. It is described as a
Speaker 3: humanoid figure about three and a half feet tall. It's
Speaker 3: got a large head, it's got long arms and talons.
Speaker 1: No, not the talons. Unnecessary. I was all good until
Speaker 1: the town.
Speaker 2: Those are tal aren't Those talons aren't talent? Yeah? Those
Speaker 2: are sickening.
Speaker 1: If they had a nice shade them, then fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's got the talons. They're like long arms
Speaker 3: about touching the ground with the.
Speaker 1: Talons dragging the talons perhaps.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So they also say that it had yellowy eyes that
Speaker 3: glowed glue glowed, and bodies that seemed to shimmer like
Speaker 3: they were metallic.
Speaker 2: Okay, and actually I have a picture here.
Speaker 3: This was a rendering as described by what Billy Ray saw,
Speaker 3: something like this.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, this long arms, long arms. Also, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, the muscles, the pecks are looking.
Speaker 2: Nice, not bad. Chicken legs like little tiny skinny legs.
Speaker 1: Skinny legs definitely only works out the upper body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't skip jim.
Speaker 1: Yes, the extraterrestrial gym in the ear situation was that
Speaker 1: discussed the big ears because those look kind of like wings.
Speaker 2: They do look wing like, which that will come back up.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if this thing flies with its ears, I'm
Speaker 1: out way with the dragging talons. No no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: So they get out their guns and they start shooting
Speaker 2: at this thing.
Speaker 1: Not a good call.
Speaker 3: And there's some reports later that they had said that
Speaker 3: there was a ton of them. I mean, it gets
Speaker 3: a little hazy with these reports.
Speaker 1: But oh so some of them are saying they were
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: A couple of them. Okay, so they're shooting at them.
Speaker 3: They actually described that it flipped like they were like flippin' around,
Speaker 3: flip into a tree.
Speaker 1: The extraterrestrial creatures were flipping.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, flippin'.
Speaker 1: At first, I was thinking like the bullets were bouncing
Speaker 1: off their bodies, which is also frightening. But whatever that
Speaker 1: is flipping around, Wow.
Speaker 3: I mean you could argue that maybe the bullets were
Speaker 3: flying off of them, or these guys didn't have a
Speaker 3: good shot because they never really got one, I don't know,
Speaker 3: or they were just flipping everywhere and they were just skipping,
Speaker 3: you know, missing.
Speaker 2: All the bullets. I don't know.
Speaker 3: So at one point, so they go back inside and
Speaker 3: the family does, and then these these little things that
Speaker 3: flip up into the trees and they're like running off
Speaker 3: into the.
Speaker 2: Woods like scary scatter. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So they go inside and they're just like, okay, I
Speaker 3: think it's over. And at one point they see one
Speaker 3: pressing its face up against the window, which I don't
Speaker 3: know what exactly that looks like. You do you do
Speaker 3: you know Romey and Michelle?
Speaker 1: Do you like where it's smushed?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 2: Romy and Michelle?
Speaker 3: There's like that scene where they're on the road trip
Speaker 3: and the kid is like putting his face and like
Speaker 3: making faces against the window and then Michelle does it.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a precious.
Speaker 2: Yes, sticking your tongue out at the.
Speaker 1: Moment, not so much of like the strangers.
Speaker 3: Don't get me started with them. The first time I
Speaker 3: saw that movie, I was camping in a tent. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to get into it right now.
Speaker 1: That's the worst type of time to be watched, A
Speaker 1: terrible time. I walked out of the theater the first time.
Speaker 2: I was so scary.
Speaker 3: It is so scary. Okay, So it's all calming down again,
Speaker 3: you know. Billy Ray pokeses his head out and a
Speaker 3: hand is seen reaching down and touching his hair. With
Speaker 3: the talents, So they get back inside. They're hearing little
Speaker 3: noises on the roof a little bit. It's been a
Speaker 3: few hours, and they're like, okay, we got to get
Speaker 3: out of here.
Speaker 1: So they've been stuck inside.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay.
Speaker 3: So they get into their cars or their trucks or whatever.
Speaker 3: They go down to the police station. They tell them
Speaker 3: what was going on, and the cops come over. They
Speaker 3: get a whole crew of people, photographer like everyone.
Speaker 2: They all go back to the house.
Speaker 3: And they don't find anything, And there was one office
Speaker 3: her name Frank Dudas, who did believe them, and he
Speaker 3: went on record saying that he had actually seen UFOs
Speaker 3: in the area a year before.
Speaker 2: So there was that.
Speaker 3: Now Glennie Lankford, who was Sutton's mom, She was the
Speaker 3: matriarch of the household.
Speaker 2: She said that they were not drinking.
Speaker 3: They weren't allowed to drink because everyone was like, these
Speaker 3: people are wasted. They're just like out there. You know,
Speaker 3: they don't have TV, they don't have internet.
Speaker 1: They're just the immediate assumption you're talking about. You described
Speaker 1: the talons, the glowing eyes, the big ears, and they're
Speaker 1: flipping all over there in the tree in the fifties too,
Speaker 1: So their faces against the windows, like you.
Speaker 2: Guys are getting wild out there.
Speaker 1: The brand the moon shines.
Speaker 3: Moonshine, Yeah, so or I don't know, white claws or whatever.
Speaker 2: White claws.
Speaker 3: So she reported that around three point thirty in the
Speaker 3: morning she saw one of them. This is after the
Speaker 3: investigation and stuff. She sees one of them with its
Speaker 3: hand on the window like looking in like.
Speaker 2: Creepy. Huh.
Speaker 3: Actually her report is posted online. Wait, first time me
Speaker 3: show you this is some of the guys describing I
Speaker 3: mean fine, Hi.
Speaker 1: Okay, so is that Billy Ray? Is that Elmer?
Speaker 3: I can't remember? Guys, two of them are Billy Ray
Speaker 3: and Elmer.
Speaker 1: They're all very attractive. Is that about fine?
Speaker 2: I mean honestly, the open shirt with the harry and shirt.
Speaker 1: The gorgeous hair like a Paul Newman. I'm like, is
Speaker 1: this just a screen grab from like a very well
Speaker 1: acclaimed movie.
Speaker 3: Seriously, this is where I would be visiting if I
Speaker 3: was an alien.
Speaker 1: Also, the premise of this does feel like M Knight's
Speaker 1: signs a little bit.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the people have said that this has inspired
Speaker 3: movies and et possibly, but zam, these guys are fine.
Speaker 2: Damn sorry?
Speaker 1: Do you believe the fine men a little more? No?
Speaker 2: Okay, no, I don't.
Speaker 3: I think that sometimes hot people just always want to
Speaker 3: be the most interesting person.
Speaker 1: They just want to be the center of the attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but so this is like you look like that.
Speaker 1: You don't have to, you know, just try to tell.
Speaker 2: Us how you don't have to try.
Speaker 1: The little creature is running around Elmer.
Speaker 2: Come on, Elm, I'm already sticking to you like Elmer's glue.
Speaker 1: Honey in your middle name is Lucky. I see why.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, okay, I'm trying to get lucky.
Speaker 3: So this is the report. I guess that was written
Speaker 3: by the woman. She says a lot of these. You
Speaker 3: can see, it's like blanked out some of the names
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 2: But age fifty.
Speaker 3: I live in hop Hopkinsville, Roots six, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: On Saturday.
Speaker 3: At Sunday night, August twenty first, nineteen fifty five, at
Speaker 3: about ten thirty pm, I was walking through the hallway,
Speaker 3: which is located in the middle of my house, and
Speaker 3: I looked out the back door, which was south and
Speaker 3: I saw a bright silver object about two and a
Speaker 3: half feet tall, appearing round. I became excited and did
Speaker 3: not look at it long enough to see if it
Speaker 3: had any eyes or move. Oh, so she's talking about
Speaker 3: When she says object, I guess she's talking about the creature.
Speaker 3: It was about fifteen or twenty feet from me. I
Speaker 3: fell backward and then was carried into my bedroom. My
Speaker 3: two sons, aged twenty five, and his wife who was
Speaker 3: twenty nine, Ellis and her other son who was twenty
Speaker 3: one and his wife who's twenty.
Speaker 2: Seven, and their friends were twenty one out. I guess
Speaker 2: so a bunch of people blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: They're all in the house. They saw this little man
Speaker 3: that looked like a monkey. At about three thirty am.
Speaker 3: I was in my bedroom and I looked out the
Speaker 3: north window and I saw a silver shining object about
Speaker 3: two and a half feet and it had its hands
Speaker 3: on the screen looking in. I called for my sons
Speaker 3: and they shot at it and it left. I was
Speaker 3: about sixty feet from it this time, sixty feet. I
Speaker 3: did not see it anymore. I have read the above
Speaker 3: statement and it is true to the best of my
Speaker 3: knowledge and belief, and it is a certified, signed copy.
Speaker 2: So there's that. Okay. Wait, so back to this story
Speaker 2: here again.
Speaker 3: A lot of people things that they were wasted. She says, No,
Speaker 3: I don't allow that in my home.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Many suspect that it was horned owls, which also have
Speaker 3: yellow eyes and round heads and the big wings.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're drunk, I guess, talons, two talons, I guess.
Speaker 3: So another sheriff from a nearby town joined the initial investigation,
Speaker 3: and he said in two thousand and.
Speaker 2: Three in an interview that they were drong.
Speaker 3: Whereas some other police officers were like No, it didn't
Speaker 3: seem like they were, so who knows. It was all
Speaker 3: over the newspapers. It became a big old thing. They
Speaker 3: put up no trespassing signs because people wanted to come
Speaker 3: up and see.
Speaker 2: Of course probably they probably want to see them.
Speaker 1: Man, they're like, I'm not interested in those horned owls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little.
Speaker 3: More for something else. Okay, okay, So they put these
Speaker 3: no trustpassing signs. It didn't work. People kept coming in. Also,
Speaker 3: they're like, were they going.
Speaker 2: To do shoot me? They couldn't shoot.
Speaker 1: Sorry, obviously this didn't work last time, so I'm not
Speaker 1: so scared due to the history.
Speaker 3: But also the aliens never came back, so maybe they
Speaker 3: saw the no treuspassing sign.
Speaker 1: They're just polite.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, police, don't do not shoot at us.
Speaker 1: I mean, in that situation, do you just barricade yourself
Speaker 1: in your home? Are you trying to defend yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How do you go on after that? Well, I'll tell
Speaker 3: you what they did. They began charging admission for people
Speaker 3: to come to their house. They said fifty cents to
Speaker 3: come over here, one dollar for some info, ten dollars
Speaker 3: for pictures.
Speaker 1: Oh, a move Okay, yes, so they're capitalists up and
Speaker 1: here of course.
Speaker 3: Well, one thing I read online that I found a
Speaker 3: little interesting was that the two men, Lucky and Billy Ray,
Speaker 3: they met working together a traveling carnival. So they had
Speaker 3: a little bit of that carnival energy.
Speaker 1: So they knew that they could create some sort of
Speaker 1: magical story to get people to pay.
Speaker 3: Possibly possibly, But to this day, every year, though I
Speaker 3: was looking it up. I don't know if COVID, I
Speaker 3: don't know, but they have done this festival every year
Speaker 3: that is called the Little Green Men. And now it
Speaker 3: became that this was originally they said it was silver,
Speaker 3: but it became like the little Green Men that were
Speaker 3: in this house. But it's called the Little Green Men
Speaker 3: Days Festival, and there's pictures online. People like dress up
Speaker 3: and they it's like a carnival kind of fair.
Speaker 2: It sounds fun that takes place in that area.
Speaker 1: What do you feel in your heart?
Speaker 3: I I think it's fun, especially in the fifties, like.
Speaker 1: Oh you're bored.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like when you talk about credibility of
Speaker 2: people that report this stuff, it's like who is it
Speaker 2: going to? Like who will you believe? You know? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: There's always there's always gonna be reasons why you can nationalize.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing. People might laugh at this because clearly
Speaker 1: I'm very open to the ghosty moments to my house.
Speaker 1: But I feel like in general I do, I really do.
Speaker 1: When I'm not trying to be dramatic about it and
Speaker 1: have fun, I do try to square away the ghost stories.
Speaker 1: I try to make the make logical sense to me
Speaker 1: and take potentially spirit out of it. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: that's where I go first, the alien ones. I'll believe
Speaker 1: anything you tell me. Yeah, yes, I want to so bad.
Speaker 1: I just want it to be I'm like, I mean,
Speaker 1: there are aliens, come on, the extraterrestrials. Now, it's just
Speaker 1: more like, you know, are we ever going to encounter
Speaker 1: one that we're aware of? But I believe any and
Speaker 1: all you think in our lifetime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope so, I assuming that I live to
Speaker 3: be an old lady with long hair like Elvin Yes.
Speaker 1: With your extraterrestrial boyfriend extra terrestrial.
Speaker 2: Can I show you a haunted doll please? Or is
Speaker 2: this going to bring up some trump I.
Speaker 1: Trigger some trauma? But you know what, I would love
Speaker 1: to dive in our haunted dolls were very spooky, but
Speaker 1: they are now gone.
Speaker 2: I got going to come back. Do you know about
Speaker 2: the haunted Elsa doll? A couple of years ago, Elsa
Speaker 2: from Frozen, I heard about this. This is one of
Speaker 2: my favorite stories I've ever read in the newspaper.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed that it was an Elsa doll.
Speaker 2: And she kept coming back.
Speaker 1: I also wanted to stay put, and they kept relocating her.
Speaker 3: She would not let it go. She kept reappearing. It
Speaker 3: was amazing story.
Speaker 1: And true Elsa fashion. She just kept coming back. Would
Speaker 1: let it go? Let go? Oh yeah, no, ours, I
Speaker 1: took it to I took both of them far away.
Speaker 2: Well, I have another idea for you if you were
Speaker 2: if this ever happens again. Okay, and you want a
Speaker 2: little bit extra cash just for fun? eBay?
Speaker 1: Okay. eBay is the place to go because people want
Speaker 1: those haunted dolls.
Speaker 2: Do they? I mean? Okay, So we're going to talk
Speaker 2: today about Ruby.
Speaker 1: Ruby.
Speaker 3: So about a week ago, I was doing what I
Speaker 3: do every single week, go on eBay type and haunted doll.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 3: I love you, and I keep up with the going rates,
Speaker 3: I keep up with the community.
Speaker 1: You're on top now, No, purchase as yet though.
Speaker 2: What do you think? I am No.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you were maybe considering, you know,
Speaker 1: renting out a storage unit and just keeping a single
Speaker 1: doll no in the storage unit.
Speaker 2: Absolutely nope.
Speaker 3: So I find Ruby, okay, and Ruby at first a
Speaker 3: week ago discount Diva. She's going for five dollars and
Speaker 3: fifty cents. Okay, I'm like, damn, okay?
Speaker 1: Oh Ruby?
Speaker 3: Well I checked. There was a bidding war, fifty bids
Speaker 3: for Ruby. She went for two hundred and twenty one
Speaker 3: dollars and fifty cents.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, let me show you Ruby.
Speaker 3: This is Ruby right here. Ruby, kind of cottage core drass.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's something about the face that will definitely live
Speaker 1: in my dreams tonight, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, Ruby, I mean she's got I don't know,
Speaker 2: something on her face. She's she's a little disheveled. I
Speaker 2: don't know what this is. She's cute.
Speaker 3: Now it says here that she was active spirit, salty
Speaker 3: but benevolent.
Speaker 1: What does this mean? Salty but benevolent?
Speaker 2: Yeah, salty but benevolent.
Speaker 1: Okay, can you explain what that? How you interpret that one?
Speaker 2: Okay? Well, we'll read about it. Comes with a biography.
Speaker 1: Oh amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I wouldn't leave you hanging like that.
Speaker 1: I'm like salty but benevolent. I have a lot of questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm salty but benevolent. So okay.
Speaker 3: Ruby is an interesting spirit. She can be funny, but
Speaker 3: she's super judgmental. You know that friend that says mean
Speaker 3: things but they are true, mean things and they are funny.
Speaker 2: Well that's Ruby.
Speaker 3: I always have mixed feelings because she shouldn't be so judgmental,
Speaker 3: but she says funny things. At first, I used a
Speaker 3: pendulum to communicate with her, and then I got to
Speaker 3: where I.
Speaker 2: Could hear her when we are alone in a room together.
Speaker 3: Okay, in the middle, I'm just picturing these conversations that
Speaker 3: she was having where she's saying things that are true
Speaker 3: but they're mean, but they're funny.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's like Joan.
Speaker 1: Rivers Rivers and then the human being like Ruby not
Speaker 1: today but also like a little giggle but.
Speaker 3: Also that is hilarious, Ruby, And you're right, You're always right, Ruby,
Speaker 3: God Like, I can just picture her like this person
Speaker 3: is having a friend over and then they leave, and
Speaker 3: then Ruby's like girls, she needs to fix those split ends,
Speaker 3: and then you're like, Ruby, you're right, but but you
Speaker 3: can't say that. Ruby, I'm gonna put you on eBay. So, okay,
Speaker 3: there's more. In the past, Ruby occupied a different vessel.
Speaker 3: She was in a different doll. She switched to this
Speaker 3: vessel for unknown reasons. I think she was a middle
Speaker 3: aged woman when she passed. She seems to have died
Speaker 3: suddenly from an illness. I think she was a housewife
Speaker 3: her whole life, and she always found that dull. She
Speaker 3: seems very intelligent. She enjoys watching Hallmark movies and likes
Speaker 3: to listen to audible romance novels.
Speaker 1: Oh so she leaves a little spice.
Speaker 2: She does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ruby likes she likes the wholesome home, which she
Speaker 3: probably is like me.
Speaker 2: She probably makes fun of them the whole She likes.
Speaker 1: To have the commentary. But then you know, as an
Speaker 1: ex board housewife is like, I need some spicy.
Speaker 2: Oh she gets those romance sensuality in my life.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, So in some ways I think death was
Speaker 3: a relief because she has more freedom now. Okay, She's
Speaker 3: fourteen inches tall, nine inches at her arms. She has
Speaker 3: marks and scratches on her face. Her hair needs some care.
Speaker 3: She has a doll stand blah blah blah. And then
Speaker 3: the last thing it says is Ruby is a cool lady,
Speaker 3: but one needs to be okay with listening to funny
Speaker 3: but judgmental comments. If you are looking for a gossip partner,
Speaker 3: you have a great friend.
Speaker 1: Now, is this person attempting to get rid of Ruby
Speaker 1: because they're trying to get better?
Speaker 2: Twenty one dollars and fifty cents later.
Speaker 1: Ruby just sounds like a great hang. I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: I'm it's so fun, Like I like to be able
Speaker 1: to have my private, you know, judgie conversations with my
Speaker 1: best closest friends. You know, Ruby is not giving away
Speaker 1: this person's secrets.
Speaker 2: She could be a podcast partner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So I'm just so curious why this individual would.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they're trying to better themselves and not
Speaker 1: talk so badly, so judgmentally about some other friends. It
Speaker 1: could be he's a bad influence.
Speaker 2: I know Ruby's probably pissed about this. I wouldn't mess
Speaker 2: with Ruby.
Speaker 3: Ruby would hop on social media and spill all your
Speaker 3: tea or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, Ruby is not going
Speaker 1: to be happy with you. And you know that Ruby
Speaker 1: is just going to be talking smack about this x
Speaker 1: the entire time. Oh yeah, so you know, if you
Speaker 1: purchase Ruby, it's just the ex conversation is going to
Speaker 1: be non stop, Like Ruby, what are you going to
Speaker 1: get over them? Okay, you're with me, now we're in
Speaker 1: a relationship. Now it's time to move on.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I think this, I would say, of all
Speaker 3: the dolls I've liked, that this.
Speaker 2: One might be the one I would want the most fun.
Speaker 1: Maybe sounds so fun.
Speaker 2: She's my kind of goal.
Speaker 1: Now are these descriptions always so fantastic?
Speaker 2: Not always? But this is what I look for?
Speaker 1: Is this kind of because I'm just I'm tickled by Do.
Speaker 3: You understand now why every single week I go to
Speaker 3: eBay and I type and hanted dolls one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I just I just met a new
Speaker 1: friend that I like.
Speaker 3: A doubt that if you looked at these long enough,
Speaker 3: you will find one that's like she loves to listen
Speaker 3: to the podcast Chatty Brad's like, they get into the
Speaker 3: things that they like.
Speaker 1: So do they know why they like the specific podcast
Speaker 1: or shows because they tell them this?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. It sounds like with Ruby,
Speaker 2: she would let you know if she doesn't like it, I.
Speaker 1: Might want to purchase one of these dolls, now.
Speaker 2: Okay, please do because if.
Speaker 1: They're gonna like let me know, if they're going to
Speaker 1: communicate with me their boundary, their interests, their purpose, then
Speaker 1: I can get I can wrap my head around it,
Speaker 1: and I can be like, we're going to be pals.
Speaker 1: Here communication my dolls. There was no communication. They were
Speaker 1: just spooky as hell.
Speaker 2: Did you try?
Speaker 1: I guess I really didn't. Maybe that was me being
Speaker 1: shut off. It was my problem, not their problem.
Speaker 3: I'm going to keep my eyes open and if I
Speaker 3: see one that I like for you, I will purchase
Speaker 3: it for you at least and haven't sent to your.
Speaker 1: Alie, and don't tell me that you purchase it and
Speaker 1: send it and it'll just arrive and it'll scare the
Speaker 1: living daylight.
Speaker 3: I will hire an old male actor like the man
Speaker 3: that came to your house that.
Speaker 1: Day, who can also disappear on command. Is just a
Speaker 1: smoke bomb.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're just gone. Yes, I will find an old magician.
Speaker 2: You want to hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 1: Please, it's time for.
Speaker 2: V plice. You've done this before.
Speaker 3: I go to YouTube, I find alleged electronic voice phenomena
Speaker 3: aka ghost voices, and I'm gonna play two of them
Speaker 3: for you. I want you to tell me what you hear,
Speaker 3: and then we're gonna guess what the real answer is,
Speaker 3: which is what the investigators.
Speaker 2: Said that they believe it says. Okay, okay.
Speaker 3: This first one is from Sennepur, which is Southeastern New
Speaker 3: England paranormal investigative research. It was done at a private residence,
Speaker 3: so we don't know where. Here we go, what is
Speaker 3: this ghost saying?
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think? It's a creepy voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like that voice at all. I'm hearing
Speaker 1: like something cover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it was like a cover artist they were doing.
Speaker 2: They heard a good cover of some song.
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know that someone has
Speaker 1: dropped a fantastic The Weekend cover. Yes, it sounds like
Speaker 1: good cover.
Speaker 2: Good cover. Okay, Well here's some odd which.
Speaker 1: Is also spooky like good cover.
Speaker 2: Wait a second. Is it a look at her? Which
Speaker 2: I like? I like the thought of like look at her?
Speaker 1: She's one on.
Speaker 3: That's what I said when you walked in and I said,
Speaker 3: look at her? Is it b the cupboard?
Speaker 2: What's in the cover? Is it c good cover.
Speaker 3: Or d Hey, Gilbert, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3: You still say good cover? I think so that's what
Speaker 3: they said, good cover.
Speaker 1: So it says this is the first time I've ever
Speaker 1: even gotten yeah, look to understanding. No, I'm normally I
Speaker 1: can never understand.
Speaker 2: Well because a lot of times they're not that great. Uh.
Speaker 3: This one, it says that it was in a living
Speaker 3: room on a static camera in this person's house. The
Speaker 3: voice can be heard clearly saying good cover, which is
Speaker 3: significant due to the client's comments having been describing how
Speaker 3: she'd played off her reaction as not being scared, so
Speaker 3: like she was scared and then she was like just
Speaker 3: kidding him not and then the ghost goes good caver.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't like that at all.
Speaker 2: Good camera.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. That is creepy, creepy, creepy.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's another one.
Speaker 3: This was posted by g P T Paranormal at a
Speaker 3: place called the Cheney Mansion.
Speaker 2: Here we go. One's a little bit louder. Okay, wait
Speaker 2: a second, it's like a whisper.
Speaker 1: That one's spooky too.
Speaker 2: What do you think I hear?
Speaker 1: Cop cop?
Speaker 3: I don't hear that at all. How do you hear, well,
Speaker 3: here's some options. Is it a oh no, no? Is
Speaker 3: it b idahoe ce hey yo yo.
Speaker 2: Or d I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Oh no, I hear no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, I hear no.
Speaker 2: They believe it's I don't know.
Speaker 1: Really, do you hear that other thing in the background,
Speaker 1: because that's what I was hearing.
Speaker 2: Let me tune in.
Speaker 1: It's like at the very end. No, I hear like
Speaker 1: a voice too, it's a double ev P.
Speaker 2: I don't know, two for one.
Speaker 1: Two for one EVP. I don't know. Let us know
Speaker 1: if you hear that other voice in there, because I'm
Speaker 1: hearing something else. Maybe it's just my own brain.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the people in your living room that whispered
Speaker 3: to each other sexily.
Speaker 1: Or Ruby's in my head now giving me some judgment.
Speaker 2: Ruby.
Speaker 3: Okay, last thing, I'm just gonna name a bunch of
Speaker 3: paranormal stuff, and you tell me what you think, all right,
Speaker 3: if anything comes up.
Speaker 1: The track test types that way, sure, Okay.
Speaker 2: What do you think of witchcraft? Now?
Speaker 3: Personally I don't really think of it as being paranormal,
Speaker 3: but it kind of goes along with the conversation.
Speaker 1: I would say I used to be feel spooky about witchcraft,
Speaker 1: and now I have so many witch friends that I'm like,
Speaker 1: bring on the witchcraft. I have seen nothing but positivity
Speaker 1: coming from that, right, mm hmm?
Speaker 2: All the things have you engaged in? Witch crafty?
Speaker 1: I've done some spells. Okay, you know, we've tried a
Speaker 1: few things. I love to success A best friend spell
Speaker 1: that I put on you to try to convince you
Speaker 1: to love me for forever.
Speaker 2: It's working.
Speaker 3: So okay, so you have done some step But would
Speaker 3: you say that it has worked?
Speaker 1: I would say I would say sure. It feels man
Speaker 1: at least my experience, because I'm not an experienced person.
Speaker 1: I just like learned some spells and I was like,
Speaker 1: this feels manifestation energy to me. Right, It definitely seemed
Speaker 1: to It didn't hurt.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of it's like vision boards, the
Speaker 2: secret like a lot of that kind of law of attraction,
Speaker 2: like that stuff witches had been doing for years, for years,
Speaker 2: no one would listen.
Speaker 1: Now, I will tell you this. I grew up in
Speaker 1: a community that was very conservative Christians. So you hear
Speaker 1: the word witch and it's like oh oh no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but I remember being
Speaker 1: in one of my houses when I was five or six,
Speaker 1: and apparently in the very cookie cutter neighborhood, there was
Speaker 1: a group of women who were Wickan who would get
Speaker 1: together and do spells and it was kind of like
Speaker 1: the community, like the hushed voice is like, did.
Speaker 2: You hear about that group?
Speaker 1: Because it was all these Christians who are very you know,
Speaker 1: they would act scared of it or be nervous about it,
Speaker 1: and I remember being like, I want to I want
Speaker 1: to get into that circle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that, loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Were they women that by day were Christian housewives or.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I never knew if it was like
Speaker 1: that people knew specifically who they were. There was one
Speaker 1: specific house in my neighborhood that we would walk by
Speaker 1: and my mom would always point to that house and said,
Speaker 1: one of the Wickens lives there, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of a you know, it was said in a spooky way,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I want to get in on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of like the legend around the
Speaker 1: very cookie cutter, hyper conservative Christian community, and I just
Speaker 1: I want to know now, I want to go back
Speaker 1: and find out what that was about, like where were
Speaker 1: they holding their communities?
Speaker 3: I don't know, especially nowadays, like everybody's practicing witchcraft that
Speaker 3: like anytime. I mean obviously talking like hundreds of years ago.
Speaker 3: It's incredible, but like I don't know people that did
Speaker 3: it before it was cool. I love them, love love
Speaker 3: so much respect.
Speaker 2: What do you think about like deja vu? Synchronicities, stuff
Speaker 2: like that happen and I feel like you're full of it?
Speaker 1: You know that I think that it's like a time warp.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I always get a little well, I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit of a hypochondriac, so you know, every
Speaker 1: time I have a deja vu, I have my first
Speaker 1: thought is I'm like losing my memory, and like what's
Speaker 1: going on in my brain kind of scares me a
Speaker 1: little bit. But I don't know, it would make sense
Speaker 1: to me that there's like a little moment, a little glitch.
Speaker 3: Okay, what about I find that with success and or
Speaker 3: close relationships, like let's say you and Becca or you
Speaker 3: and your husband, have you ever gone back or have
Speaker 3: you acknowledged things that are like this is too good
Speaker 3: to be true that we met each other?
Speaker 2: Or yes, like what.
Speaker 1: I mean, even just how the podcast got started was
Speaker 1: strange to me that like she said yes and showed
Speaker 1: up and she didn't know me, like come to my house.
Speaker 1: She had a bunch of offers. I had no experience,
Speaker 1: and then it just ended up working. That's strange to me.
Speaker 1: Moments where all of a sudden, you you know, the
Speaker 1: other day, we were at a hotel and started talking
Speaker 1: to this family because they had another little one in
Speaker 1: My daughter and their child were playing, and we ended
Speaker 1: up finding out we're like out of town, out of town.
Speaker 1: We end up finding out that they're like cousins of
Speaker 1: another best friend of ours. Like just those weird moments
Speaker 1: where you're like of all the people and there's just
Speaker 1: this overlap. That's when sometimes you know, the different concepts
Speaker 1: of like living in a simulation and like one of
Speaker 1: the theories is that nothing is happening outside of this room.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that you have like the singular, like you
Speaker 1: have your perspective and like that's it and outside of
Speaker 1: that room there's nothing happening right now, right, So sometimes
Speaker 1: I think about that kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: So you think the world revolves around you?
Speaker 1: Yes, I am very egocentric.
Speaker 3: Okay, good to know I guess nobody else matters. What
Speaker 3: do you think about?
Speaker 2: This is a deep one, Okay.
Speaker 3: Do you have an idea of what happens when we
Speaker 3: die to our spirits or.
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I am That's one of my biggest fears. Why I
Speaker 1: get like really really anxious about what happens after you die?
Speaker 3: So but how do how does that go along with
Speaker 3: the ghosts that you've encountered, What do you think has
Speaker 3: happened to them?
Speaker 1: I sure don't know. I think what helped what gives
Speaker 1: me peace in my anxiety when I'm laying in bed
Speaker 1: at night, being like what happens after we die? Is
Speaker 1: I just think about the fact that we're all energy, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like, if you die, then you're the matter
Speaker 1: and the energy you're made up of goes elsewhere. So
Speaker 1: sometimes I wonder if, like maybe those ghost moments are
Speaker 1: just little like blips of energy. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: hope that I get to I hope that there is
Speaker 1: something else after, but I wish it's one of those
Speaker 1: things that the idea of not knowing is what scares
Speaker 1: me the most. If I knew and the end was scary,
Speaker 1: I'd be more okay with like not no.
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you knew and it wasn't good,
Speaker 2: that's no. Like I wouldn't look forward to that.
Speaker 3: I would be living in fear, like I don't want
Speaker 3: this to end because I don't want to go to
Speaker 3: the bad.
Speaker 1: That's true. Then I guess again this is coming from
Speaker 1: me who's again raised so conservative Christian that I was
Speaker 1: always like, well, you know, I thought about that every
Speaker 1: day too, But what was so scary is like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, but I like to think
Speaker 1: that I don't know. We carry on in some way.
Speaker 2: The mystery is the fun part.
Speaker 3: And I say this all the time, and I'm I'm
Speaker 3: not afraid to repeat this all the time because I
Speaker 3: hope it helps people that like talking about ghosts has
Speaker 3: taken away my fear of dying really yeah, because I've
Speaker 3: had so many conversations about it. And of course I
Speaker 3: still don't know what a ghost is. I don't know
Speaker 3: how any of this stuff works, but it just leads
Speaker 3: me to believe that it's not over when when when
Speaker 3: it's over, it makes it feel a little more that way,
Speaker 3: especially when you get into like the idea of past
Speaker 3: lives and all that kind of stuff. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm going to go on to the next one, like
Speaker 3: there's just going to be another life.
Speaker 1: I'm that I'm absolutely down for now. I have you
Speaker 1: talked to Becca, my co host on my podcast. She
Speaker 1: is so scared of entering in a new life. That's
Speaker 1: like one of her biggest fear.
Speaker 2: But it's like going to a new high school or whatever,
Speaker 2: like that is scary.
Speaker 1: It is. It's I'm like, yeah, it's nerve wracking, but
Speaker 1: I'm all about, like give me into that next life.
Speaker 2: A lot of people believe, and I.
Speaker 3: Can see this, a lot of people believe that if
Speaker 3: you don't, if there's certain lessons you didn't learn in
Speaker 3: this life, wherever you go next, you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: learn those lessons before you can go on.
Speaker 2: To another life or else.
Speaker 3: You're going to keep going into lives where you're put
Speaker 3: in those situations like you have to overcome whatever that is,
Speaker 3: like a.
Speaker 1: Karmick to a certain that all goes along with that.
Speaker 1: I felt that way numerous times recently. I feel like
Speaker 1: every few like almost every six or seven years, that
Speaker 1: I'm being faced again with a very similar life lesson,
Speaker 1: like over and over. And I know one of my
Speaker 1: biggest battles in life kind of is the same thing
Speaker 1: in different versions over and over again, and the other
Speaker 1: day I'm like, is this kind of my Is this
Speaker 1: why I'm here to figure out if I'm going to
Speaker 1: conquer this challenge? And like get over this hump?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like have to you have to face it.
Speaker 2: Your problems are always going to come back up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And thinking about it like that, I like that
Speaker 1: makes me feel peaceful.
Speaker 2: It's not too scary. I mean, I don't want to die,
Speaker 2: but like.
Speaker 1: Oh if I could live, if science one day figures
Speaker 1: out how we can live forever, I'm like, I'm in.
Speaker 3: Really oh yeah, no way, so hot it's going to be.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be eighty five years old when
Speaker 3: it's three hundred degrees.
Speaker 1: At that point, I'm hoping that they'll shoot me into
Speaker 1: space somewhere. I'll be in some orb, you know, just
Speaker 1: a nice climate controlled orb. Maybe at you know, one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty. They've gotten me to that age and
Speaker 1: I'm just floating around. Maybe Alvin's up there and with Ruby, I're.
Speaker 2: Picture you podcasting from up there.
Speaker 1: It's me why it's day five thousand, two, one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five in the Orban space. Sign me Up, Fun,
Speaker 1: sign me up.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do one more.
Speaker 3: What do you think about I don't know. I feel
Speaker 3: like I've covered a lot of these with you before
Speaker 3: because we've talked before about bigfoot, haunted dolls, Ouiji boards, demons.
Speaker 2: Do you think that there could be an existence of
Speaker 2: things like trolls or goblins?
Speaker 1: I would say probably not, but I love to think
Speaker 1: that that. Yes.
Speaker 2: In fact, Wow, they are so interesting enough.
Speaker 3: So my favorite people in the world, Greg and Dana Newkirk,
Speaker 3: they are these paranormal investigators. Yes, you know about them?
Speaker 1: Fantastic?
Speaker 3: Do you know about Hell You're the TV show that
Speaker 3: they did. They it's it's a out investigating these goblin
Speaker 3: like creatures in Kentucky that are very similar looking to
Speaker 3: the Kelly Hopkinsville case. There's been a lot of people
Speaker 3: that witnessed that kind of stuff in that area.
Speaker 1: So are we thinking that potentially these goblins are extraterrestrial? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's all connected.
Speaker 1: I didn't even ever put that together. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: the goblins, it's like again the Harry Potter energy, which
Speaker 1: I would like to think is real, but not that
Speaker 1: it's an et situation.
Speaker 2: I mean, where do they come from? Somewhere they're not
Speaker 2: of this earth, that's true. Where are they? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would be absolutely down to me to goblin.
Speaker 3: You're talking to one right now. I've been called goblin, Jess.
Speaker 3: You've been so generous.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, joining me coming out here.
Speaker 1: It is always so wonderful to be here with you.
Speaker 2: I love talking with you.
Speaker 3: I could talk to you for hours, tell people where
Speaker 3: to find you, and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, you can find the podcast that I'm a co
Speaker 1: host with Becca Martinez on Chatty Broad's on Everything Apple, Spotify.
Speaker 1: We have a YouTube channel as well, and my personal
Speaker 1: instagram is at the Bad Mom with two d's.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you know, Halloween's coming up. If you want
Speaker 3: to give me a call, I will be there. We
Speaker 3: a lot of times talk about spooky stuff on Halloween together.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, it's tradition. I mean tradition, and like
Speaker 1: I'm figuring out now, you are the energetic source in
Speaker 1: my life who cleanses all of the spookiness from my
Speaker 1: house every time you come.
Speaker 2: I did my best.
Speaker 1: You cleanse it. They everyone is at peace. Then when you.
Speaker 2: Come, Oh, Okay, thank you. Well, I guess that's it.
Speaker 1: Love it.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much to Jess Ambros. Watch the video
Speaker 3: version of this pod link in the description. Oh also,
Speaker 3: my Patreon's there support the show, listen to my little
Speaker 3: weekly episodes, and me looking into paranormal phenomena in the
Speaker 3: different fifty states of America. All right, I guess that's it.
Speaker 3: To Halloween time. Please tell your friends about the show.
Speaker 3: Please subscribe, Hey, post about it if you want, tell
Speaker 3: you friends. I wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't be mad
Speaker 3: at all if you did something like that. That'd be
Speaker 3: real nice. Actually write the show five stars. That's a
Speaker 3: nice thing to do. Send me a ghost story. Okay,
Speaker 3: I really do mean it. I really do want to
Speaker 3: do a listener episode. So send your ghost stories to
Speaker 3: ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com with the subject
Speaker 3: line listener episode and some bullet points of your different
Speaker 3: stories so I know what we could talk about together
Speaker 3: and then yeah, a five star review. You could leave
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Speaker 2: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 2: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
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