1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's me Josh, your old pal, your old buddy, 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: and I'm here with another s Y s K Selects 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: and this week it's all about police chases. We release 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: this episode back in May of two thousand thirteen, and 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where you think you have 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: an idea about how something works or what something is, 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: and the more you dig into it, the more you 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: realize that, like, wow, we've all just kind of been 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: going along with this thing that probably shouldn't exist. So 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: it was a real eye opening experience to me. And 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: I hope even if you've heard the episode before that 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: you find it an eye opening Again, let's all just 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: watch our eyes open. If you can do such a thing, 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's possible. Welcome to Stuff 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: You should know a production of I Heart Radios How 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Stuff Works, d do Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, who's uh 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: do you know? Someone on Twitter said that every time 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant giggles, a baby bunny is born. Yeah, and 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: they be it to Wow. I love being responsible for 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: all that joy in the world. You're doing it, man, so, 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: I guess you just opened the show with you were 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: being chased by a police car in Great Britain. Just 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: you did a British Sorry, I guess it was yeah 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: to do that. In the United States, we have different 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: sounding sirens. Well, well in these days, it's all kinds 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: of crazy, like beeps and whistles. It's like that's like 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: an American police cruiser today. Wow, this is getting off 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: to a great start. Let's let's try to keep it 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: on the track, all right, on the U E V 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: O C track. Yeah, this is what this is in 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: our long running law enforcement series. You know, it's unequaled 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: by any other topic except for death. I think you think, 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: I think death might have it beat. Okay, may be not, though, 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: we'll find out. All right. Uh I let's go count 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: them after this, Okay, Chuck. Have you ever been in 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: a police chase? Um? Have you ever been the object 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: of pursuit in a police chase? Yeah? I was not driving. 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: I was in a car one time when my friend 40 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: decided to run from the cops. Wow, we lay it 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: on us. Well, you know, it was just one of 42 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: those things. We were in Athens and he made a 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: very bad decision and uh, we got away with it, 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: no way. Yeah, we'll see. That's something that I find 45 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: extremely interesting because I didn't realize until reading this article that, um, 46 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: there are very few circumstances where a cop should feel 47 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: justified or would be justified in chasing you. Right. But 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: that said, there are almost no laws whatsoever restricting police chases. 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: It's this weird gray area. And I actually found there's 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: activists online or saying, like say no to police chases, 51 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: like restrict police chases, like create laws against police chases 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: because these things are deadly and dangerous. Yeah. I think 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: what about a hundred and forty innocent civilians were killed 54 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: last year? Yeah, three about a person a day on 55 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: average dies from a police chase, and about a third 56 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: of those. But yeah, last hundred forty or just innocent bystanders. 57 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah that I mean that happened in Atlanta. That's happened 58 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: in Atlanta a couple of times recently. One time the 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: trainer for the Atlanta Braves his because he lost his 60 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: wife to a cop smashing into her. And um, then 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: again more recently there was another case. I think it 62 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: was a kid or something, but it was like it 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: was sort of in the news lately. Yeah, And I 64 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: mean you get the impression that and cops died too, 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: Like high speed pursuit is their high speed pursuing. That's 66 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: dangerous for everybody involved, including the cop. Um, but you 67 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: get the impression that, like whatever the circumstances, is just 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: just not pulling over for being for a for a 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: cop trying to pull you over is reason enough to 70 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: get the cops tackles raised enough to chase you. Yeah, 71 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: right off the bat. I think that would be any 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: cops instinct, is gun it not? Like, well, let me 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: check into his record and call my supervisor and see 74 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: if they allow this, which a lot of times this policy. 75 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: Now as we'll see, um, there are procedures in place 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: to kind of try to tamp down that emotion of 77 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: the primary departmental policy. Basically though, like you said, not 78 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: law right, So well let's let's talk about this. Um Okay. 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: When you go through the academy and you um get 80 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: all your training, your gun training, you're hanging out with 81 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: Tackleberry and you learn how to make cool sounds like 82 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: machine guns says or like yeah huh yeah. Um, you 83 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: spend about a week, probably a little less learning how 84 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: to drive the car. Yeah. Sadly only about two of 85 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: those days are dedicated to high speed pursuit. Yeah, which 86 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: apparently is an improvement over zero days, which is how 87 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: it used to be. And like the forties and fifties. Yeah, 88 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: I guess they just said good luck. Right, you should 89 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: know how to drive fast, right. You know, if you're 90 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: an old country sheriff, you probably ran moonshine exactly, or 91 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: your cousin does at least. Um. But there there's a 92 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: lot to it. Um. In Ed grab Banowski, the grabster 93 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: um points out that you know, in in a high 94 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: speed pursuit, UH, cops car can be just as deadly 95 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: as a cops gun, and they need to know how 96 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: to use it just as well and just as accurately. Um. 97 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: Because not only do you not have to know how 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: to drive, you have to know how to drive fast 99 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: while you're also turning on the lights and the sirens 100 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: and like calling in something and like all that other 101 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: stuff has to be second nature to you so that 102 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: you can focus on the driving while using just a 103 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: minimal amount of your brain power on the other stuff. 104 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: So part of the car training is just that how 105 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: to run a police car stuff. Because it's not like 106 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: every other car. Right, and if you, um, if you 107 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: are being trained to to drive in high speeds in 108 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: pursuit of a suspect and they send you to Colorado, 109 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: you can be reasonably assured that you're gonna come among 110 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: the better trained police in the country because the Colorado 111 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: State Police maintain a course, an Emergency Vehicles Operation course 112 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: that is the cream of the crop. Did you see 113 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: like the aerial view of it. Yeah, I mean they 114 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: cover all the scenarios like UM on ramps and off ramps, um, 115 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: high speed turns, intersections. They've really got all laid out 116 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: there and put you in a scenario where as close 117 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: as you could get to like an active street. Right. 118 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: It's like there's skid plates where the coefficient of friction 119 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: is point one five compared Chuck to say, I'm just 120 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: staying this off top of my head, a of coefficient 121 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: of friction of like point nine five on a dry highway. Yeah, 122 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: so that's slick. Yeah, that is slick. They need to 123 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: know how to not spin out, basically. Yeah, And that's 124 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: I think the exception is a really elaborate course like this. 125 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of local police still use the 126 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: parking lot in the cones back, which is better than 127 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: an orange cone. Your doctor days, you put an egg 128 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: on it like a Brady Bump. God. That was one 129 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: of the greatest television shows of all time, The Brady Bunch. Yeah. Absolutely. Um, 130 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: so let's talk about pursuit equipment. Right, Basically what we 131 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: just said was police training. You get a couple of days. 132 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Maybe if you're lucky, you get a few days on 133 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: like a really great course, maybe out in Colorado. For 134 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: the most part, it's like, you know how to drive, 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: just drive really fast. Here's your Crown vic Yeah, that 136 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: the Ford Crown Victoria's is the most common police car, 137 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: although they're using all sorts of different cars today. When 138 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: you drive around you'll see like those Dodge Chargers and 139 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: like the more souped up I know. Uh, I think 140 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: in l A the State Patrol had those Mustangs, like 141 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: they really souped up sports cars. Um, apparently they're getting 142 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: away from Crown Victoria's because that model of car had 143 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: a big problem with it. Whereas if you were rear 144 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: ended in a high speed collision, your car blew up. Yeah, 145 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: that was that the Pacer that did that. In the seventies, 146 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: the Pinto Pinto, the Ford Pinto. Again, Ford had the 147 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: opposite problem if you if you um collided with something 148 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: on the front end, I thought it was the rear. 149 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: I think it was the front. Well let me tell 150 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: you this either way. I learned about it from the 151 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: movie Top Secret, where a Pinto like just barely hits 152 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: a tree and then it's the front and blows up 153 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: and then Ford ambulances for a while we're blown up 154 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: to Yeah, so forward with the with the police inceptor 155 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: crowned vic um created this, uh, this chemical fire suppression 156 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: system where right when you're rear ended at a high 157 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: enough impact, forceful enough impact, this this fire suppression thing 158 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: goes off. So even if there's not a fire, there's 159 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: not going to be a fire anyway. Um, but apparently 160 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: it's enough that some some people are like, yeah, we're 161 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna go with the intrepid. Uh. You see a lot 162 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: of crown bicks in Atlanta to like just regular people 163 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: driving them. It's like sort of a thing. Now, Yeah, 164 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: it is like a little spotlight. Yeah, it's like, man, 165 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: don't mess with me like that out on the highway. So, um, 166 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: there are some differences of course tween a police car. 167 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: If you think it's just a regular Crown Victoria. It 168 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: is not or whatever it is. Um. A lot of 169 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: times it does have more horsepower in the engine because 170 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: they need that kind of juice. Um. And they weigh 171 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: more obviously than your standard car. Because there's more guns 172 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: and things you're gonna have like metal reinforced seat backs 173 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: and things, so like you can't get stabbed in the 174 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: back from the back seat you did if you did, 175 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: or shootings or anything if you didn't do a good 176 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: job of checking for weapons. Um. What else. Extra transmission 177 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: coolers and oil coolers. Yeah, because I mean like a 178 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: radiator tops. Like they don't turn their car off ever 179 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: like that heat heat builds up, so they have like 180 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: oil coolers and transmission fluid coolers, bigger alternators to supply 181 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: more power up to a hundred and thirty amps if 182 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: that means anything to you. And then lights well in 183 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: vinyl seats stow in the rear. That's that's important. Yeah, 184 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: You're never gonna find cloth interior in the back of 185 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: a police car because suspects are dirty. They're dirty, and 186 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: oftentimes they will poop and vomit and bleed and just 187 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: do whatever whatever. Bodily fluid they can get out in 188 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: that police car, they probably will, so they want to 189 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: make it uh easily. You just get out the four 190 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: nine and the paper towels and just clean it right there. 191 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: Um lights Apparently they used to have them on the 192 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: fenders and they said, you know what, this is visible, 193 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: but it's not as visible as if it were on 194 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: the roof. So they created what as the light bar, 195 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: and which it was a little more recent than I thought. 196 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: It was the seventies that these things made their debut. Yeah, 197 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: and I thought back, I was like, oh, yeah, you 198 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: never see like cars in the sixties or or even 199 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: early seventies with that light bar. So I was born 200 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: at about the time the light bar came along. Yeah, 201 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, you remember seeing the single 202 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: sirens sometimes or the double blue Dirty Harry would put 203 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: one do like a UI. Well some some were built 204 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: in but yeah, they also had the undercover cars. That 205 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: was one of the great parts of any cop movie 206 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: was when they got out the siren and put it 207 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: on the roof. Um. And now you can get them 208 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: at Spencer's Gifts. Summer blue and summer uh, summer blue 209 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: and summer red. Though I've never known the distinction. I 210 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: always thought ambulances were red and cops were blue, But 211 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: in different cities have seen cops have read. I think 212 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: it depends on what side of the force you're on. 213 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, like how your medic chlorine? So one 214 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: thing they can do to uh, to prevent the chase 215 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: from happening altogether. You've seen the old spike strip. They'll 216 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: lay down these rubber mats with spikes all across the road, 217 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: or they have them like uh, like an accordion. You 218 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: just kind of throw and hang on to one end 219 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: and the other. That's the quick version, and so that 220 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: will obviously disabled the tires. Um you can the good 221 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: old fashioned roadblock that you see in movies actually happens. 222 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: They line up cars and except in this version there's 223 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: not a conveniently parked tow truck ramp for the criminal 224 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: to jump over everybody or bust through. I guess, well, 225 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: you have to be careful setting those up because it's 226 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: normally going the criminals not going to try to push 227 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: through the car, but they may try to go around. 228 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: So you have to make sure that if you set 229 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: up this roadblock, it's it's not like going to funnel 230 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: them into somebody's house. I don't think you do that 231 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: in like a neighborhood. That would be a good idea. 232 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: You want to do it on a country road. And 233 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: then modern techniques, which I think if they bring this 234 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: stuff along, that's really where it's at, Like microwave technology 235 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: to disable the electrical system of a car, or shooting 236 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: a laser high speed avoidance using laser technology HALT system 237 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: of course, But they left out a couple of letters there. 238 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: H oh, yeah, it should be swa halt. It's not 239 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: an acronym if you're leaving out words just to make 240 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: it a cute word. All right, Um, so they like 241 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: a lay ocean last name if they spelled it out correctly. 242 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: So in that case, they're shooting a laser to cut 243 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: off your fuel supply. But here's the rub there is 244 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: the vehicle that they're shooting it at has to have 245 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: a special microchip in it. Yeah. I didn't look into that, 246 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: did you. Is it like newer vehicles? All that's my 247 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: guess is that they're going to start putting these in 248 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: all cars or something like. They make some deal, that 249 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: would be fine with me. I mean, it's better than 250 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: pursuing somebody. Absolutely you know, um, And then of course 251 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: you have air support, either in the form of a 252 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: police helicopter or like fifty news helicopters if it's the 253 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: police chase out in California, um, or the world's Scariest 254 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: police chase helicopter. Yeah. Whoever those guys are. I think 255 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: they just get footage from news copters and cop copters. 256 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: Do you watch the shows I know I've talked about. 257 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: I've seen them before. Yeah, Yeah, they're they're just so 258 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, I followed. That's one of my guilty pleasures. 259 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: Do you watch this still? Yeah? I mean it's not 260 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: appointment television. I never know when or where they come on. 261 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: But if I'm flipping it around and I'll see a 262 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: police chase. I lived in l A. It's sort of 263 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: a thing, it is. Yeah, And apparently California has some 264 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: of the most um police protective laws as far as 265 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: pursuits go. They happen a lot out there. Yeah, and 266 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: like the everybody just stops doing what they're doing and 267 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: watches the live coverage of it sort of. Do you 268 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: remember the guy um who killed himself on live television 269 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: after a police pursuit and yeah, showed it on Fox. 270 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: I guess I saw that when it happened live. I 271 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: was I remember very distinctly. It was like not like 272 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: a movie. No, you know, like if you've ever seen 273 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: someone shoot their head off with a shotgun in real life, 274 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: it's nothing like. It's not some big dramatic movie thing. 275 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: It's just sad. Yeah, it really was. It was like 276 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: he might have been like making or gami or something like. 277 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: It was just that pedestrian or it was just like 278 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: he just had the gun and he's pull it up 279 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: and shot himself and he hunches over and just falls. Yeah, 280 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: it was. It's weird. It was really weird to see. 281 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: It was very sad. And of course all the kids 282 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: that saw that, that's like it's terrible. Yeah. Um. So, initially, 283 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: if someone takes off, like you were talking about, the 284 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: police officer that's on the scene has a decision to 285 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: make to pursue or not to pursue. Lots of policies. 286 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: One thing they want to do is run the tags. 287 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: Is it a stolen vehicle where they just in an 288 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: arm robbery or is it just somebody who has a 289 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: couple of traffic tickets out or nothing at all on 290 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: their record. Apparently the pursuit that enjoys the widest support 291 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: around the country is if it's a violent criminal, um, 292 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: somebody who poses an imminent threat to somebody else, somebody 293 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: who's just carried out a violent act and is escaping, 294 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: like pretty much, which everybody says, chase that guy. Like 295 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: if you said the person has a couple of traffic 296 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: tickets or if they have nothing and they're the only 297 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: reason to chase them is that they didn't pull over 298 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: for you, that is not reason to pursue. And yet 299 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: of all pursuits, and I believe two thousand eleven were 300 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: for traffic violations. Yeah, I mean, I feel for the 301 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: cops has got to be their instinct, like go get 302 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: that person. They're fleeing me for a good reason. Yeah, 303 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: Like I get it, But there when people are interesting, 304 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: people are dying, there needs to be like some policy 305 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: in place for sure. And apparently, Chuck, ninety one point 306 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: four percent of chases were for non violent crimes. I 307 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: believe that. So, um, if the cops says, okay, this 308 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: guy's this car just came back stolen, the guy just 309 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: waved a gun and it's a very clear case that 310 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: he should pursue them. There are other things to consider. Yeah, uh, 311 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: what's the what don't get him? What's what's traffic? Like, 312 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: what's the word? Are the road conditions? Like it rainy? 313 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: Is it dark? A neighborhood, pedestrians everywhere? You might want 314 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: to just kind of slowly tail the guy. Well, the 315 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: one in Atlanta where they killed the trainer's wife, I 316 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: think it was a sort of a busy afternoon in 317 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: an urban area, Like they shouldn't have been pursuing anyone 318 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: at this point. Do you know what they were pursuing 319 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: the person for? No, I don't remember. Um. And then 320 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: so if they decide to like go ahead and pursue, 321 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: then this this series of um procedures kind of come 322 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: into place, like they need to be radio back into 323 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: headquarters like immediately right and apparently they're every step of 324 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: the way or they just kind of keep the whoever 325 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: they're talking to their supervisor posted on what's going on. 326 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: And the supervisor's role is to keep a cool head 327 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: because they're not the one who the person isn't pulling 328 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: over for, so they're they're not mad. Sure, they don't 329 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: want to correct heads, you know, UM, so their their 330 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: whole role is to to say, you know what, like 331 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: we we should You just told me that there's some 332 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: pedestrians around. This guy is not a violent offender. You 333 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: don't don't complete this pursuit, or we have like we 334 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: have chopper coverage, so back off with the cars and 335 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: we can still like follow this car from above. Yeah, 336 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, like we're still gonna get our guy. Don't 337 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: you worry about it? Um. One of my favorite things. 338 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: If you watch the show Cops, you're well versed with 339 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: the pit maneuver police I'm sorry, pursuit intervention technique also 340 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: called the technical vehicle intervention, and that is the famous move. 341 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: If a cop has you know, you'll hear them. They 342 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: have to get clearance for the pit maneuver. Even they'll 343 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: call it in and say, hey, I think I've got 344 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: a chance for a pit Can I take it? And 345 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: they'll say, if you feel like, you know, the streets 346 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: are clear enough and you know you have to do 347 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: it on a turn, you don't just like run up 348 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: beside someone and run them off the road. It's it's 349 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: when they enter a turn, the cop hits the gas 350 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: and hits them on the left rear umper and just 351 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: basically spins them out, and uh, it's it works if 352 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: done correctly, and they'll train. You know, you get trained 353 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: when you get the defensive driving on the pit maneuver 354 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: and they just spin out. You can't come out of it, 355 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: can't come out of it. Your car spins. And that's 356 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: generally on cops at least when the guys will jump 357 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: out of the car with the car still rolling and 358 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: take off on foot. And then you hear these cops, 359 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, with the they're miked up, so all you 360 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: hear is like running in the dark with all this 361 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: gear on. You're like, man, what a crappy job. Well, 362 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, check your heavy breathing just reminded me of something. 363 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: Is it that time? It's time for a message break? 364 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: All right? Heavy breathing indeed, So you we're talking about 365 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: the wildest police chases, that kind of show that you like, 366 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: I don't know who would watch stuff like that. Well, 367 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: Grabster takes the task, um those kind of shows for 368 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: presenting a very um unbalanced picture of police chases. They 369 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: don't show the cops backing off of the pursuit becomes 370 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: too dangerous. They don't show the cops crashing into an 371 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: instant by standards car right. Um. They never say, well, 372 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: this cop probably shouldn't have pursued this person because this 373 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: is a minor violation. Um. And they they always kind 374 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: of tend to present the police in a favorable light. Yeah. 375 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: And I think it's more I don't know if they're 376 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: out to make Oh maybe they are. I just think 377 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: it's better TV obviously, like you would want to show 378 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh no, let's just back off and 379 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 1: get back to get that for sure. Plus also they 380 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: want to maintain a um the kind of relationship with 381 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: cops police departments that where they'll give them their footage. Absolutely, 382 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, now the shows are good for the cops. 383 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure we hear I don't know if you can 384 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: hear this people, it sounds like a police chase is 385 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: going on outside right now. I think it is. This 386 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: is this is really dramatic footage. Chuck. Um. Uh, do 387 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: you remember the O J thing specifically? Yeah? Where were 388 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: you then? How's in college? Were in college? I remember too, 389 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: of course, so I don't. The chase wasn't I didn't 390 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: watch much of the chase, remember the verdict? Yeah? I 391 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: remember the chase specifically because they it was during the 392 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: Knicks Rockets NBA playoffs and my buddy Justin as a 393 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: huge Knicks fan, and he was really upset and he 394 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: was just like, do you have to have it on 395 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: every channel? And I agreed with This's like, why don't 396 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: you know you're going to pre empt the basketball game. 397 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: It's on a hundred channels. I can't in there one 398 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: person out there that wants to watch the basketball game 399 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: put their ratings would have gone through the roof. And 400 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: that was a low speech chase. That wasn't even that 401 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: was just weird. You know, the well love speech chases 402 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: are very weird. I'm a c It's just like, you 403 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: know who I am. I'm not gonna pull over. Yeah. 404 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: So well, let's talk about the legalities of it, right. There's, 405 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: like we said, there's pretty much no laws that restrict 406 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: police chases. They have the right to do that in 407 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: all cases. Yeah um. And as a matter of fact, 408 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: they don't even have to have their lights and sirens 409 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: running to engage in pursuit. Yeah um. The there are 410 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: department procedures regarding police chases though. But the thing is is, 411 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: even if a cop violates department procedure and continues to pursuit, 412 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: they're still not breaking any laws. So for example, in Washington, 413 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: d C. You can only pursue if the suspect has 414 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: engaged in a violent act or um, someone could be 415 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: seriously hurt if the suspect were allowed to escape. UM. 416 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: In Des Moines, Iowa, no more than three cars can 417 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: engage in pursuit. Yeah, that makes good sense. It's a 418 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: good rule. And you have to take into account a 419 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: m the time of day, road and weather conditions, the 420 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: nature of the offense, and a supervisor has to pursue, 421 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: has to approve the pursuit. And then in Florida, Orange County, Florida, 422 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: that's the Orlando area. Yeah. Are they the ones that 423 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: have real restrictive policies. Yeah. And as a matter of fact, 424 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: they found that after in the year after they enacted 425 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: their restrictive pursuit policies, UM, felonies in Orlando declined. Yeah, 426 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: what's up with that. I don't know, one of those 427 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: weird things. Uh. There is also something called sovereign immunity UM, 428 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: which is a government official is not liable for damages 429 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: that occur while they're doing their job. UM. Yeah, that's 430 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: like old time common law. Yeah, old school. But these 431 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: days there are a lot of municipalities that have overridden 432 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: that law with with other laws. Um And like I 433 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: think with the Georgia case, I think that cop was 434 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: fired and brought up on charges, and I think they 435 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: could even sue the police station. Yeah, with the but 436 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: not himself in overriding the sovereign immunity laws. Most most 437 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: departments or communities protect the cops individually but financially. But 438 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: the institution can still be sued, right, but they're not 439 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: protected criminally, Like they can still be brought up on charges, 440 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: they just can't be sued. I think, gotcha, because I'm 441 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: pretty sure this Braves guy, I think he went upon trial. 442 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: Well apparently if I'm wrong, then I'm gonna eat crow. 443 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: But in California, you're basically out of luck if the 444 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: cops mess up your storefront with their cars during your pursuit. Yeah, 445 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: they their laws very much protect the cops for from 446 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: that liability. Insurance would help out though, you would hope, 447 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: But I mean then your rates are gonna rise. What 448 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: were you doing? Nothing? You just happened to have a 449 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: store in the wrong place in l A. So that's 450 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: a that's police chase. As you got anything else? I 451 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: got nothing else. They seem way more dangerous than I 452 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: even thought, and I thought they were pretty dangerous before. Yeah, 453 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: don't support those TV shows. People don't listen to me dolorify. Yeah, 454 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: to do as he says, not as he does. 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