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Speaker 1: Good to be with you, Kenley. Thanks, thanks for being

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Speaker 1: You are so close, my friend, to some pretty incredible

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Speaker 1: numbers that would be very Hall of Fame worthy. What

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, to hear that, that's unbelievable to

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Speaker 2: be honest with you, you know, I just played this

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Speaker 2: I want to help my team, every team that I play,

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Speaker 2: just hear my name, you know, get titled to that

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's awesome hearing.

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Speaker 4: That when you're looking for jobs in the off season

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Speaker 4: a team. I'm not saying you're not going to try

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Speaker 4: as hard. I'm saying like your value is in that

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Speaker 2: Be honest with you, You've got to be also, you know,

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Speaker 2: So you know, I know that it's happening. And you know,

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Speaker 2: to me right now, it's just you be the best

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Speaker 2: haven't pitched the seven or the eight before. You know,

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Speaker 2: I did those before I become a closer, and you know,

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Speaker 5: By the way, I want you pitching in the night.

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Speaker 5: So AJ want you pitching in the night. Okay. So

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Speaker 5: just just so you know that, speaking of when you

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Speaker 5: were going through your free agency and your recruiting pitch,

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Speaker 5: did you go to Hinch and Scott Harrison say, hey,

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Speaker 5: you know, if you guys would have had me last year, guys,

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Speaker 5: I'll close down that game five for you guys, because

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Speaker 5: they had a lead and they blew it out later

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Speaker 6: He a nice job, but you have you're on track

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Speaker 6: for a Hall of Fame career. Man. We put you

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Speaker 2: You know it's funny when you say that, because you

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Speaker 2: know it was mutual interest a year before, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Too, So definitely watching the playoffs last year and you

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, watching that team, you know, that's the

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Speaker 4: Kenley, I played against you when you play when you

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Speaker 4: And I always ask superstars this, because you are a superstar.

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Speaker 2: I think I wish I could I have the wisdom

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Speaker 3: Work ethic, work hard every day, and.

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Speaker 2: You know that's all I wanted to do, and maybe

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Speaker 1: World Series Kenley. A. J. Hinch and I were having

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Speaker 2: I think it's him changing the culture. I think I

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Speaker 2: And you know, if they want me to pitch the

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Speaker 3: So I'm just going to be open minded on that.

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Speaker 2: And yes, of course, you know, get to five hundred

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Speaker 2: It's just me being winning the division every year and

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Speaker 2: I think more awesome to have an it's another ring.

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Speaker 6: Kenly.

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Speaker 5: By the way, we just showed a picture of you

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Speaker 5: I actually got to play there. I don't wish that

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Speaker 6: You're taller than I am.

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Speaker 5: You would have had to squat like a catcher in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, God forbid. If something exciting.

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Speaker 5: now what that's great? I want to know, are you

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Speaker 2: I think I think California Love. I think it should

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is a great song. And you

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Speaker 4: Right, you have four hundred and seventy six says for

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Speaker 2: I think I can get there, be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: I think I can get there. Like that's that's the

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Speaker 2: But you know, hell it's going to play a big role,

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Speaker 3: So yes, for sure, if something individually, I think I can.

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Speaker 1: Get there for sure, Kenny, I know that you are, obviously,

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Speaker 5: By the way, Andrew Jones going to the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: What does it mean to put that jersey on? Because

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Speaker 3: I mean it means a lot. That's how my dreams start.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I went there last year. Beautiful place, beautiful, beautiful place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ken Lee, we appreciate you so much. You're so

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Speaker 1: Tell Gianni and the kids. We said hello, We're looking

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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