1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, and now your 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: host Tony Peterson. Hey everyone, welcome to the wire to 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Hunt Foundations podcast, which is brought to you by First Light. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tony Peterson, and this episode is all 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: about planning an out of state Turkey trip and how 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: that can actually make you a better deer hunter. Listen. 8 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: This might seem like a pretty weak thread tying two 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: things together, but hear me out, Turkey hunting, which we 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: are finally almost able to do, can make you a 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: better deer hunter. This is no more true than when 12 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: you decide to head out on a little over the 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: road adventure in search of gobblers. Not only does this 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: get you into unfamiliar territory, which is good for us 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: as hunter, but it helps smooth out all the wrinkles 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: of hunting, travel and camping, all that jazz. And even 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: if you think there's no way in hell you travel 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: for a stupid bird, give this episode of listen maybe 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: I can change your mind. Back in January, I dropped 20 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: a couple of episodes of this podcast that were dedicated 21 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: to considering an over the road White Tailed Trip. If 22 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: you haven't listened to them, I suggest you hop inside 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: the way back machine and go give them some of 24 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: your time. If you have and you're all on board 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: with hitting the road, this episode is definitely for you. 26 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: If you're on the fence and just kicking the tires 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: while mind grinding over taking a trip. This episode is 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: definitely for you if you are in the no way 29 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: in hell I'm staying home. No matter what category this 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: episode is, uh maybe maybe not for you, but give 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: it a listen. Anyway, Hunters often take trips. This is 32 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: no surprise. Traveling to hunt is so popular now and 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: kind of appears like it's a simple thing to do, 34 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: especially if you're just rolling through Instagram. And truly, we've 35 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: we've never had more information than we do these days, 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: so in some ways, putting together not a state trip 37 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: really has never been easier. That doesn't make it easy, though. 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: This is true for any trip, and it definitely is 39 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: true if you're a first timer. In that case, if 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: the trip involves big game and the big expenses that 41 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: go with it and a lot of expectations, the potential 42 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: for the whole thing to go south is real. Bad weather, 43 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, a truck that decides it doesn't like 44 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: shifting out of first gear anymore, unexpected hunters in the field, 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: poor game, animal numbers, you name it. The traveling hunt 46 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: is a lonely ship out there in the ocean, and 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: there are a pile of torpedoes heading in his general 48 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: direction at any given moment. A great way to mitigate 49 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: the risk of the whole thing blowing up and the 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: ving you with a sour taste in your mouth is 51 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: to travel for something a little less important to you 52 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: than bucks, something like I don't know, a silly bird 53 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: with a nutsack on his chin and a couple of 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: knives on his ugly feet, a bird that makes a 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: laughable call immediately turns on his fallen compadres and demonstrates 56 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: less loyalty than a supervillain. And well, I don't know. 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: It's composed of the kind of meat that is perfect 58 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: for making kid approved nuggets. The wild turkey. I could 59 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: probably do an entire year's worth of podcast episodes just 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: like these, but dedicated solely to hunting turkeys. I love them, 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: I really do. I think turkey hunting is more fun 62 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: than most hunting in general, except for maybe spotting and 63 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: stocking meal deer, even if turkey success is a little 64 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: less rewarding than it is with bigger game. I think 65 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: that we are damn lucky to have this goofy bird 66 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: in so many different places where we can hunt it. 67 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: I also think we are damn lucky that there are 68 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: so many states that will sell us a license to 69 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: hunt that no matter where we call home. Even better 70 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: those states, in those places you might travel to hunt turkeys, 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: they're also home to white tales, often many of them, 72 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: and surprise, surprise, the turkeys live where the deer live, 73 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: or the deer live where the turkeys live. It doesn't 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: really matter. They are all mixed up on the landscape, 75 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: and that is a good thing for us. Now. I 76 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: mentioned on this show about how my first out of 77 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: state hunts involved turkey travel, and honestly quite a few 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: of my current hunts due too. But I rarely had 79 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: somewhere with the idea that the only thing I'm thinking 80 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: about is how to arrow a gobbler or shoot one 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: in the face with a shotgun. I'm always factoring in 82 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: whether I want to hunt turkeys on ground that I 83 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: also might want to hunt deer on I'll give you 84 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: an example of how this played out in my life recently. 85 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: After drawing deer tags in Iowa in two thousand nine 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: and two, I decided it was time to save up 87 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: my points until I could find a good unit to 88 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: hunt public land. I messed around for a few years, 89 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: and then took a trip to the southwest corner of 90 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: the state to hunt turkeys and deer scout. The turkey 91 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: hunting there was actually pretty sweet. The deer scouting was okay, 92 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: but just not enough to convince me to cash in 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: my points and buy that spending nonresident deer tag. So 94 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: I kept looking and in en I decided to hunt 95 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: turkeys in a different part of the state again with 96 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: the idea that I had scout deer in the process. 97 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: I picked a new area with a decent concentration of 98 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: public land around, applied for a last season turkey tag, 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: and made plans to go run and gun for a 100 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: few days. I also booked a site at a campground 101 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: and did a lot of east scouting. After getting down 102 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: there and setting up camp, I hiked into my first 103 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: spot during an afternoon hunt. This spot has a dreamy 104 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: meadow on top of a bluff. While a few gobblers 105 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: responded that evening nothing came in, So that night in camp, 106 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: I opened up my on X app and I picked 107 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: out another spot that looked like a good place to 108 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: hike into for a long beard, but it was also 109 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: an area that I really wanted to scout deer in. 110 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: When I woke up that morning well before first light, 111 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: it was crazy windy, and I never heard of gobble 112 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: the entire time I hiked to the back of that 113 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: property to set up, But as it got light and 114 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: the morning progressed, I finally got to drive by from 115 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: a hen who came into my calling, and a little 116 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: bit later after that, I was kind of leaning back 117 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: and I thought I heard a bird drumming against the 118 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: NonStop hollow thirty mile pro winds. It was enough to 119 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: get me to look at my decoy, and then it 120 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: all made sense, because there was a monster tom chest 121 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: bumping it. How he got into my spread without my 122 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: knowledge probably says a little too much about my ability 123 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: to pay attention. But the good news was that he 124 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: never even hardly flopped after I lined up my bead 125 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: on the base of his neck. Killing that old Tom 126 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: was pretty sweet. But what was equally sweet it was 127 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: after I killed him, I spent some time scouting. I 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: found pounded deer trils, I found rub lines, and the 129 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: general dear sign in the area was impressive. In fact, 130 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: it was enough to get me to apply for a 131 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: deer license the following season, which led to a great hunt. 132 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: In fact, that first meadow I set up in for turkeys, 133 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: that's the place I spent the second morning of the season, 134 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: and I saw seven bucks in there, including one of 135 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: the biggest bucks I've ever seen anywhere, let alone on 136 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: public land. And later in that hunt, I came back 137 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: down and I killed a great book in a spot 138 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: that I had also scouted while turkey hunting. That same 139 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: type of progression of events that's happened to me in Nebraska, 140 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: it's happened to me in South Dakota. It's happened to 141 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: me in Wisconsin. And the key to all of this 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: is to realize that a turkey trip can really function 143 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: as a trial run or a deer hunting trip. Whether 144 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: you're camping or setting up in a motel or staying 145 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: with a family friend or a relative, you get to 146 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: figure out the logistics of a trip. How far is 147 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: your campground from your best hunting spot. How much of 148 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: a pain is it to get back to the hotel 149 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: every night? How many hunters do you see during turkey season? 150 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: How are they accessing the properties you're hunting as you're 151 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: engaged in your over the road Turkey trip. Pay attention 152 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: to these questions. You should be able to answer some 153 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: of them, like I don't know that thirty five minute 154 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: drive from the motel to the management area you want 155 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: to hunt. That might not sound like much while you're 156 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: sitting at home in January, but after three days of 157 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: getting up two hours before dark and then hunting all day, 158 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: that drive might feel like something a little different. You'll 159 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: pretty much be the same thing during deer season. So 160 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: pay attention. In fact, let me illustrate this by summarizing 161 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: a conversation I recently had with Casey Smith from the 162 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: Element podcast. Casey is a white tail killing stud who 163 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: spends a lot of his time on public land chasing 164 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: deer from Texas all the way up to the Midwest 165 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: and the East. Suffice it to say, when he is 166 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: in the deer woods, he has a good idea what 167 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: he needs to do to be successful. He has enough 168 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: experience to draw from that if something goes wrong, which 169 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: is ways does he can reset and keep himself in 170 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: the game. It's a little tiny speed bump. I feel 171 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: the same way when it comes to white tilS for 172 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: the most part. But Casey and I also got on 173 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: the topic of elk and how neither one of us 174 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: would claim to be anything but an eager novice when 175 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: it comes to elk hunting. We talked about the difference 176 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: in confidence from heading out on a mountain versus heading 177 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: out on a management area in the Midwest, about how 178 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: different it is to just find some dear versus finding elk, 179 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: how different it feels to go from pretty confident to 180 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: truly baffled. This feeling of not knowing what you're doing. 181 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: That's a good thing for guys like us to be 182 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: reminded of because we have a wide audience. Some folks 183 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: who consume our stuff they're stone cold killers and they 184 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: listen in or watch mostly just for entertainment or it 185 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: seems to probably judge us on the things that we 186 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: do wrong in their eyes. But others are trying to 187 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: learn and really trying to glean any tips or strategies 188 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: they can to try to get better at something. Some 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: think they're not all that confident in now. There are 190 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: plenty of ways to highlight this lack of confidence in ourselves, 191 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: but one sure way is to take that first trip 192 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: over the road. That's when you're gonna learn a lot 193 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: about yourself, and you learn a lot about your ability 194 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: to handle a little adversity while keeping a positive attitude. 195 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: The thing about that is it's a hell of a 196 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: lot easier to stomach when you've got a hundred dollar 197 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: tag for a bird in your pocket versus a four 198 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: or five tag for a white tail. Now, if you 199 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: think that won't matter to you, it might not. But 200 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: mixing deer tags with ego, which we all have in 201 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: the deer world, can do weird things to us. It 202 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: sucks going on a deer trip only to start to 203 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: believe you're going to eat tag soup. And then I 204 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: have to tell your wife, or your buddies or your 205 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: co workers. They drove all the way out there, and 206 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: you burned your vacation. You spend a ton of money 207 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: only to kill the same amount of deer you'd have 208 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: killed if you had never left at all. One of 209 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: the best parts about this reality is that you can 210 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: begin to develop that over the road confidence on a 211 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: Turkey trip less at stake. That's going to feed your 212 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: white tailed trips and possibly, I don't know, feed your 213 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: desire to go travel for pronghorn or elk or meal 214 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: deer or moose or whatever. It will help you really 215 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: start to be comfortable with your plan of travel in 216 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: all of your digital scouting efforts, the thoroughness of your packing, 217 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: your gear setups, all of that stuff. When you do 218 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: this enough, setting up a tent in the dark and 219 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: forty mile pur winds becomes not such a big deal. 220 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: Or I don't know, making coffee an oatmeal for yourself 221 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: an hour before you hike into unfamiliar territory that becomes 222 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: easy and just part of the routine. Staying away from 223 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: home for four or five days and keeping yourself on 224 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: task that kind of just suddenly becomes part of the 225 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: trip and not something you really have to work on. 226 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: It also helps you with the main component of a 227 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: hunting trip, which isn't just killing something, but it's actual enjoyment. 228 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: If you want to have a great experience, and I 229 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: know you do, some level of been there, done that 230 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: mixed with new adventure is the secret recipe for having 231 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: a great hunt. Regardless of whether you fill a tag 232 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: or not. A Turkey trip can give you the chance 233 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: to learn about that type of hunting while you're simultaneously 234 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: settling into the rhythm of the hunt, which I can 235 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: tell you without question helps you find more success. And 236 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: if you think finding more success on the road doesn't 237 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: feed the desire to travel more, you're off your rocker there, 238 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: Betty Crocker. There's nothing sweeter than traveling to a new state, 239 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: to new ground, living in a tent for a few days, 240 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: and filling a tag, even if that tag is only 241 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: on a turkey, even if it's a jake, which, by 242 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: the way, is as much of a trophy turkey as 243 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: a six year old thirty pounder with two inch hooks 244 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: and five beards. Well, okay, maybe maybe a jake isn't 245 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: as good as that bird, but I can tell you 246 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: I've been really happy, many many times to look up 247 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: and see a group of short beards running into my spread. 248 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: If I haven't convinced you yet, here's another benefit to 249 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: a spring Turkey road trip. You really get to test 250 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: out your gear instead of buying a new pack or 251 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: maybe a new pair of boots and then waiting until 252 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: some are scouting or the actual deer season to give 253 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: them a real test run. You can actually hunt with 254 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: that stuff this spring. This goes for hunting gear of course, 255 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, bows, accessories, whatever, but also for camping equipment. 256 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: If you choose to camp, and believe me, getting to 257 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: know your tent, cot, sleeping pads, sleeping bag, lanterns, cooking setup, 258 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: and whatever else during Turkey season, that'll make your dear 259 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: trips a lot easier to plan for and a lot 260 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: more enjoyable. And on this note, which I fully admit 261 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm biased towards, I think you should consider camping if 262 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: at all possible. You always have the backup of finding 263 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: a motel somewhere if the camping thing doesn't work out. 264 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: We don't always have the benefit of finding a motel 265 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: with vacancy near where you want to hunt. You can 266 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: often find campgrounds close by, or depending on the state 267 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: and type of land you're gonna hunt, camp right where 268 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna be Jason those birds. This might be the 269 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: case on public land and it might be the case 270 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: on private land. If you tap your network and you're like, 271 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out to South Dakota and hunt my 272 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: long lost uncle's farm. He might let you pitch a 273 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: ten in his backyard. Who knows. It's a great way 274 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: to go about a traveling hunt because you're in control 275 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: of your little home base. That's a huge win in 276 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: my book, and it has absolutely changed the game for 277 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: me as far as how I plan all of my 278 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: over the road hunts. If I can't camp in close 279 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: proximity to the ground I plan to hunt, I'm probably 280 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: gonna look elsewhere. That's how important this is to me. Now, 281 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: on a later episode of this podcast, I'll break down 282 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: my whole white tail camping set up, but for now, 283 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: suffice it to say camp if he can't for turkeys, 284 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: and for dear, just do it. But now, to get 285 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: back on the topic a little more, a turkey trip 286 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: will not only help you familiarize yourself with your gear, 287 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: but also tell you what you don't like about your gear. 288 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: It's a better scenario to figure that stuff out in 289 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: the end of April while your turkey hunting than during 290 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: the second week in November when you're deer hunting. You'll 291 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: also get an idea how much food to bring on 292 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: a trip, how many of those little green propane tanks 293 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: you might need to, I don't know, fuel your lanterns 294 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: and your blind heater or whatever. You'll get to figure 295 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: out what blind chairs squeak, which ones don't. How tolerant 296 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: you are of temperature swings while sleeping in a tent. 297 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: How likely you are to enjoy a trip with a 298 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: hunting buddy who's snoring kind of sounds just like a 299 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: wilderbies experiencing an especially painful birth of its calf. You'll 300 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: learn how the locals might treat you, how well the 301 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: roads are maintained, which is really important. It's places, what 302 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: the tick numbers are, like, whether you can actually cross 303 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: that river in knee high boots to hunt the promised 304 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: land beyond the far bank, or if it's way too 305 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: deep and it only looks like it's crossable when you 306 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: look at it on satellite imagery. You'll learn a lot. 307 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: You'll learn how much a trip like this really costs. 308 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: How prone you are to ignoring the lunch meet in 309 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: your cooler to drive to the nearest Arby's for some 310 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: delicious curly fries and a roast beef sandwich. This is 311 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: kind of like pitching in a minor league game to 312 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,359 Speaker 1: see if you really got the arm and the stamina 313 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: and the mental pieces in place to jump up to 314 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: the big show. Okay, maybe that's a stretch, but you 315 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: get my drift. All I'm saying is consider this. Consider 316 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: it because taking a turkey hunting trip is just fun 317 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: and it's a beneficial move if you intend to become 318 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: more of a traveling hunter in general, and tune in 319 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: next week. I plan to keep talking turkeys and white tails, 320 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: but in a new way that will be relatable to you, 321 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: whether you're going to drive ten thousand miles to Spring 322 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: in search of your turkey slam, or you just want 323 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: to stay at home in gobbler hunt a few days 324 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: on your grandpa's farm. That's it for this week, my 325 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: white tail obsessed friends. 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