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Speaker 1: First question we asked everybody who come on the show

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Speaker 1: is when you first got to the league, who was

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Speaker 1: the first person to bust your damn.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy And I knew that was the question.

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Speaker 3: I want to say, the first person that really like

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Speaker 3: got me a fullpit the truth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, you know that's why I was so hyped when

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Speaker 3: we played them people again going the playoffs were playing.

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Speaker 3: I finally got to get at them people a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Talk my ship my first game he was doing ship that.

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Speaker 4: It was just like, how you making that?

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Speaker 2: You want somebody like he just was getting.

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Speaker 1: He not faster than you, He don't got the shake

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Speaker 1: up dribble.

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Speaker 4: He just a little bit of space to do what

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Speaker 4: he needs to do. He good.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's right, Like I could steal this a

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Speaker 3: hundred times out a hundred.

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Speaker 2: Times, and I can't steal it.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna step back, not even away, like all way

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Speaker 3: from me, just a little bit and barely get it off.

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Speaker 5: And this, oh my, it was already.

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Speaker 6: That's his operating office right there, that's seventeen eighteen feet cooking.

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Speaker 2: Uh step back and you got the start getting mad.

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Speaker 7: I was like, man, do this, I'm all that y'all,

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Speaker 7: I'm guarding you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Where does the advice coming from?

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Speaker 5: Yo? Yo? Yo?

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Speaker 6: We live on location me and d Niles is here

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Speaker 6: at home in Orlando, and Yo, man, we got a

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Speaker 6: shot town brother in the building and Bay.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: This, this this real hometown cooking right here is my

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Speaker 6: pottinger in them. You know what I'm saying. It's Shorty

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Speaker 6: in them. And there's Joe from out West. You feel me?

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Speaker 5: Man? We got my homeboy Ean mind Shample World champion.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sir, And let's not forget hip hop lyricists with

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Speaker 6: albums out right now joy Ride.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Bro Man, we appreciate you for coming up on us,

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Speaker 6: pulling up on us from Miami.

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Speaker 2: That yeah, Yo, you know you know I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 5: Have you know that, sir Man?

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Speaker 1: I hate when a person giving me advice, like, bro,

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Speaker 1: I know how to go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Right thirty points. I got all the right ideas like you.

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Speaker 6: How you could have stopped him? Like brother man, where

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Speaker 6: was your antanas when he was up here?

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Speaker 7: Tattooed my whole game?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: He He was the first person to really frustrate me

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Speaker 3: and I remember that because I recall becoming a fan

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Speaker 3: because of that, like I had to study. I believe

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Speaker 3: Paul Pierce began my YouTube graze where I start watching

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Speaker 3: players whole highlights. I'll watch eighteen, like, don't get wrong,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get the film from the film guys, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna watch that. But I'm gonna become a fan all

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Speaker 3: week knowing I gotta play this man on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch your celebrations.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? How rude is? Do he

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Speaker 3: talk shit? Do he push off? Every time he do this?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: I see this clip over and over. He always hit

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Speaker 2: his game. Do he push off?

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Speaker 3: How is he getting in separation? Am I gonna get

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Speaker 3: that call? I'm definitely getting that call. So how i'ma

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Speaker 3: make up for that ship?

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Speaker 2: What do I do when you do this? Because it

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Speaker 2: ain't it clearly.

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Speaker 5: Is you ain't getting that car? You look, look I'm

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Speaker 5: not getting your most people are not getting.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, like I'll tell you how old

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Speaker 1: we is because like you saying, YouTube, like you can

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Speaker 1: go on YouTube and watch somebody highlights.

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Speaker 4: When we got in the league, it won YouTube.

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Speaker 1: We had to go to that video guy and get

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Speaker 1: that information and get them tape. Hey, they send me

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Speaker 1: all hit shots for the last five games, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you can't go left.

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Speaker 6: So wait, so wait before we get there, I want

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Speaker 6: to I want to rewind, take it all the way back,

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Speaker 6: because something just popped up.

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Speaker 5: I was unaware of this was this was news to me.

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Speaker 6: You went to middle school with Evan Turner. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, I broke the stead this record.

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Speaker 6: I never know that out there in the west suburb West,

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Speaker 6: So we got west side of Chicago in here a

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Speaker 6: whole lot of Joe and you.

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Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying, Joe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Joe.

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Speaker 6: Whole lot, a whole lot of So I never knew

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Speaker 6: that about you and him, that y'all with the grade

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Speaker 6: school together and hoop together.

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Speaker 5: I never knew that.

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Speaker 3: So when we went to Emerson, so you know, all

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Speaker 3: of Evan was he was always the you know, you

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Speaker 3: got your city kids that ain't real city kids. They

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Speaker 3: using somebody's address to get over. I knew Van had

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Speaker 3: one of these. I had like three guys that is

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Speaker 3: you know, they was one of them if they were

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Speaker 3: their grandma, they and the fog, if they with this

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Speaker 3: person there in Chicago, if they were with that person

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Speaker 3: out south, like, that's how shit go.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't know whether Evan was gonna go there

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Speaker 3: But we knew each other from playing travel ball, little

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Speaker 3: pick up ball, all that little dumb shit. We was cool,

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Speaker 3: but we wasn't cool like that. When we got to Emerson,

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Speaker 3: he kind of saw like, oh no, he can go go.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I saw he'd love to score. So it was like,

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Speaker 3: this works perfectly.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: I ain't really into scoring because it's too many of

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Speaker 3: y'all that wanted to do. For some reason, y'all don't

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Speaker 3: like doing the other parts of the game. So I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna just do the other parts. But I get to

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Speaker 3: sort of control shit as long as I keep you happy.

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Speaker 3: So Evan was perfect because back then all he did

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Speaker 3: was he had a cook like he just grabbing it,

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Speaker 3: letting it go, like having he'll have thirty in the

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Speaker 3: first half.

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Speaker 2: We won't play second. But I'm just hounding.

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Speaker 3: As soon as the ball go through the net, I'm

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Speaker 3: hounding whoever got a handle, I'm hounding it. I get

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Speaker 3: all my points on breakaway. I just wanted to play ups,

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Speaker 3: play up. You know, look at the crowds, Short, I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at the crowd up the dive pastes being the

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Speaker 3: asshole man. But I'm sure, and I'm just running around

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Speaker 3: super fast, like and then high school if he, if

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Speaker 3: the man would have went so Park with you, that

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Speaker 3: was the next that's the follow up.

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Speaker 7: That's the follow up, Like where did he?

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Speaker 4: What happened?

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Speaker 5: Short?

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Speaker 2: He went to Saint Jones. He the city kid called.

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Speaker 3: Tighter. You see what I'm saying. But I was so

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Speaker 3: the part of me that threw everybody off. I had

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Speaker 3: these same bridges to get to these schools.

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Speaker 7: I had the program.

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Speaker 2: That was the it program.

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Speaker 3: But I also had its pride to me that it

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Speaker 3: was just like, bro, why y'all don't want to go

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Speaker 3: to Old Park, but y'all want to go to other

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Speaker 3: schools and then pull up over.

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Speaker 2: Here and kick it on y'all cars, y'all want.

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Speaker 3: To you want to go to? Just come in like

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Speaker 3: I get it. Nobody want I get it. Coach al

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Speaker 3: strick ooh like Shorty, come whoop Bill like just come

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Speaker 3: like y'all be here all the time. I know all y'all,

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 3: When you see somebody you know how I go at

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Speaker 3: the crib. We don't see nobody get out of that.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't Michael Finley. Ain't nobody coming home. There wasn't

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Speaker 3: no coming home like we saw Michael Finley and we

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Speaker 3: saw like like you we'll see Q will mine come home?

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Speaker 2: Play?

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Speaker 3: Y'all come playing the program and shit like kick it

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Speaker 3: with us. It's like, all right, that's all of bridge.

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Speaker 3: But it's like I wasn't into it, saying I'm gonna go, Oh,

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Speaker 3: I gotta go to Crane Westernhouse like all my friends,

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Speaker 3: like Transport were finna go do whatever y'all gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Y'all bill gonna deal with me if y'all put me

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Speaker 2: on the schedule.

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Speaker 6: Hey, that's the funny thing about high school. That used

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Speaker 6: to be like everybody, I'm about to go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I'm bro, i can't do it. My brothers all went here.

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Speaker 3: I'm comfortable here. My grandma lived down the street. Bro,

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Speaker 3: I'm comfortable. Like, why can't we just win here over

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Speaker 3: your crib?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 4: Like when I was in high school, that's how it was.

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Speaker 1: I wanted all the hoopers to come to the hood

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Speaker 1: and hoop with me, but they was all around the suburbs.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, man, y'all grew up. Y'all was

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Speaker 4: born here, went.

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Speaker 1: To elementary school here, and then I just ain't.

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Speaker 4: Gonna go to high school here.

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Speaker 5: I was different.

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Speaker 6: I was all city all day right then you know,

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Speaker 6: grade school went to Whistler out on the Hunters. Then

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Speaker 6: freshman year went to Brother Rice. That was the curve

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Speaker 6: ball right there. Spent the year Brother Rice, bro like

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Speaker 6: playing against it. We didn't even get to go to varsity.

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Speaker 5: Was sick.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, nah, as soon as I ain't get to

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Speaker 6: go to war, I went to transfer. I was like, nah, bro,

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Speaker 6: and I ain't had work. You're about to you about

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Speaker 6: to do this year?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: That year was over.

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Speaker 6: I was one of them kids, I'm transferring when I

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Speaker 6: asked right away, I'm in the city again where I

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Speaker 6: supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: So you at oak Park, and you got to make

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Speaker 1: a name for yourself because everybody around the city is

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Speaker 1: loaded up. Not only do they got a nice player

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Speaker 1: or superstar on their team, they got a squad.

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Speaker 4: How was your competitive as to be?

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Speaker 1: Like, No, I gotta make a name for myself in

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Speaker 1: the big city with all these big time teams around.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna sound shallow or weird kind of, but I

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Speaker 3: literally wanted to play city teams to impress girls.

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Speaker 2: And that's the most honest I could keep it.

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Speaker 3: Gee, Like I ain't never kept it that that a thousand,

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Speaker 3: which like no bullshit. My whole type of shit growing

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Speaker 3: up was like I had an issue with women liking

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Speaker 3: the homies because they did street shit, or you like

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Speaker 3: him because he go to the school that ain't winning,

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Speaker 3: like they just dis respectful and bad like look, and

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Speaker 3: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand it. I'm like, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, now we over here trying to make

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Speaker 3: it over here, like we could kick it like that,

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Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, but bring everybody over

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Speaker 3: our house, like we be having our house packed out

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Speaker 3: now because we want the kids and our family to

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Speaker 3: all get a taste of this, Like we all you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. When I played in high school,

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Speaker 3: it was like I was in and coach like, come on,

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Speaker 4: Like what did you get?

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Speaker 2: What's your thirst? Get Crane?

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Speaker 3: Putting Crane on the schedule because I'm like GEDs is

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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, put them on the schedule and make

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Speaker 4: Make it away game. You already know I want to

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Speaker 2: I want to go in there.

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Speaker 5: So we de forming.

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Speaker 3: They pad people down, going like this little bit shit

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Speaker 3: And I wanted that because that feeling, that fight or

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Speaker 2: It's real when you go out west or you go.

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Speaker 3: Out South and you playing that team that ain't supposed

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Speaker 3: some suburb kids. When people think suburb kids, like, I

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Speaker 3: I just never knew that piece of paper park Like

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Speaker 3: Like I put Chicago on my city town. I put

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Speaker 2: Why he keep putting Chicago. But it's all I knew.

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Speaker 3: I knew Bulls driw with Bulls jerseys every day school

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Speaker 3: the time. Everything was Chicago. I go to my dad,

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Speaker 2: He just like, hey, man, let him play.

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Speaker 3: I'm playing with grown ass me and I played against

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Speaker 5: With old wood Joe.

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Speaker 3: It was a dude with no draws on, belt on

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Speaker 3: I had to play this man one on one. He

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Speaker 3: was the smelliest, nastiest player I ever played again, Bro,

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Speaker 3: and I beat him.

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Speaker 5: I beat him, but.

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Speaker 3: I remember my dad making me play him. I was

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Speaker 3: I could play anywhere here. He was like, you shouldn't care.

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Speaker 3: Like it's the same game. Ball go in the rims,

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Speaker 3: other team putting it anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Any coach, any hood, any playground, anywhere, got that golden

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Speaker 1: if you who you is.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: When people see you in that element, they understand, Like, Bro,

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Speaker 3: he ain't scared.

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Speaker 2: He really loved this shit.

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Speaker 3: Like now I could be a fan of That's how

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Speaker 3: I felt when I would go in the Western House

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Speaker 3: and they stomping in the stands and all my teammates

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Speaker 3: and shell shock. Well a couple of them was thirsty

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Speaker 3: like me. Well, we wasn't really like that's why we

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Speaker 3: was winning. But you know, the rest of the bench

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Speaker 3: is sort of like, oh, like, oh, it's smelled like

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Speaker 3: we did in the crowd. Like I don't know why

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Speaker 3: I tell people that the Chicago publicly.

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Speaker 5: I don't know about now.

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Speaker 6: But when we was coming through the Red West, bro

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Speaker 6: bar none one of the toughest conferences in America. Forget

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Speaker 6: the city in America, Bro, It's what I'm talking about

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Speaker 6: when you the environment alone, Like we can't have seven

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Speaker 6: thirty games. I gained at three fifteen, three thirty rides

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Speaker 6: of school because it's going up at that game in

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Speaker 5: It's too many people out of work. Too many people

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Speaker 5: can make it. That's going down.

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Speaker 2: It's always standing room.

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Speaker 3: The gyms ain't big enough, so it's gonna be standing

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Speaker 3: room only. It's gonna be people. Every time you make

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Speaker 3: a way up, you're gonna fall into They might push

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Speaker 3: your ass out that cray.

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Speaker 5: I tell you. We have a lot of combination, lots

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Speaker 5: throw at the bus everything.

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Speaker 3: The embingy that like the NBA crowd being back like

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Speaker 3: that like calms me, but it kind of takes a

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Speaker 3: part of me away that you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Like it professionally is dope.

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Speaker 4: You go from the jumble to the ball.

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Speaker 3: So so yeah, but it's like that energy does nothing

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Speaker 3: like it even in college.

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Speaker 2: College took that energy away a lot of my you know.

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Speaker 6: You I'm listening, what about say, if you think, if

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Speaker 6: you if you think about the NBA what you just said,

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Speaker 6: the team, the only place to get you anywhere close

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Speaker 6: to what you're talking about is Utah And that's why

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Speaker 6: it's hard to win there because they fans right there up.

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Speaker 5: On top of you.

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Speaker 6: Kind of it's not like how what we talk about,

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Speaker 6: but that's about as close as you get in the NBA.

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Speaker 5: And that's why it makes you right there. They right there,

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Speaker 5: and you.

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Speaker 2: Like how Russ was, You just feel like you want

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Speaker 2: to talk, like what's up bro? Exactly.

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Speaker 6: That's that's why it's probably more incidents there than anywhere else,

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Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying, because it's like they

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Speaker 6: right there and it's all the way around.

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Speaker 4: They're right there.

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Speaker 3: Just don't want them to change it, Like don't change it.

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Speaker 3: Leave it, like leave it like that's a good staple,

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Speaker 3: Like it's disrespectful in Utah.

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Speaker 5: Supposed yeah, you leave it.

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Speaker 6: I mean I'm not crossing that line, but I mean,

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Speaker 6: like in the lines of what we're talking about. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be our style territory.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I hate that the shit happened with Detroit and what

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Speaker 3: you call it, but like fans getting mad and just

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Speaker 3: like screaming and saying disrespectful ship like the ship that

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Speaker 3: happened with Reggie Miller. I feel like that was the

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Speaker 3: same type of ship where people going at him and

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Speaker 3: then Spike says something to Reggie and it just inspires

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Speaker 3: do something.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like.

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Speaker 3: I don't want you to take that away, because that's

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Speaker 3: part sometimes Russ Maybe having that bad game and shutting

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Speaker 3: that fan up is what inspired.

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Speaker 1: It used to be, Like don't wake that mom stup,

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Speaker 1: then that fan, wake that bond.

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Speaker 5: Let that let let that sleeping dog line.

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Speaker 3: I love when it's loud on the road and somebody

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Speaker 3: just say the wrong thing and we get inspired and

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Speaker 3: we make the next three that time out hit. Yeah

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Speaker 3: hear yourself finally, Oh no, y'all get quiet down first.

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Speaker 6: Of all, Like, but you got understand like the way

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Speaker 6: we grew up, we thriving that because we we've been.

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Speaker 5: We've been, we've been. We we can't escape it. When

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Speaker 5: we're growing up.

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Speaker 6: When you don't matter where, Yeah we go to lunch,

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Speaker 6: when you got some weak shoes on, you about to

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Speaker 6: get cappt off. You know what I'm saying, like, you

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Speaker 6: can't from the environment we come from. So everything getting

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Speaker 6: us is the okay engaged, like what's happening. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: I'm used to like, Okay, That's why I can crack

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Speaker 6: jokes because I've been cracked on them hard. So now

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Speaker 6: I got to be able to come back. Yeah, I said,

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Speaker 6: I learned how to fight because I got beat up

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Speaker 6: and I got jumped, and so now I know that

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Speaker 6: I can take that punch dead in the face that

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Speaker 6: like a lot of people ain't got hit dare smacking

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Speaker 6: their face in their eyes, what up that bridge they

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Speaker 6: nose and then they see them Oh, I'm aint like

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Speaker 6: when that happened, that changed your whole perspective. The people

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Speaker 6: just sitting out there right now when they ain't never

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Speaker 6: got punched. I'm talking about punch, punch straight in your

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Speaker 6: fucking nose. When you take that and you feel it

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Speaker 6: and you go through it, that changed your whole life, bro,

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Speaker 6: I promise.

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Speaker 2: You, no, lie. I've been on what four teams down

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Speaker 2: the league, All four of the teams.

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Speaker 3: I usually ask everybody once in my life like we'll

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Speaker 3: you know, fights talk come up, like I'd be like, nah,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that be to knock me.

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Speaker 2: I'm alway be like, I ain't never got knocked out.

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Speaker 3: I'm because listen here, I didn't got knocked out before.

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Speaker 2: I know exactly how I feel.

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Speaker 7: I'd have got.

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Speaker 2: Almost knocked out.

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Speaker 3: Don't out of a fight jump, I'd have got idn't

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Speaker 3: lost the one on one and it got stumped because

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Speaker 3: I hit the flow and bombed up.

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Speaker 2: I'm like dog, I'd have had every version of a fight.

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Speaker 3: That's why now I'm confident in doing it, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. That's why now it'd be like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna overreact to no situation. I've been in

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Speaker 3: that situation. But even when we on the court, you know,

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Speaker 3: when we were hooping in New York, that's fun to be. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: you got a little buddy over here with the brads.

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Speaker 3: He ugly and said, hey, you do it?

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Speaker 2: Do it? You know what I'm saying, Like it creates

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Speaker 2: a confident.

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Speaker 3: Me.

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Speaker 2: Hey, who look look at buddy? Who he he can't

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Speaker 2: God be just this braids get long? He come on

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Speaker 2: sex screen? Who woo him? Who got him? What's his name?

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Speaker 3: Hey, y'all put him on the scout I just say anything,

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Speaker 3: but it's all part of the game.

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Speaker 2: Like I love that confidence, Like I love Chicago for

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Speaker 2: doing that to me, Joe, Like real, that's that. I

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Speaker 2: love where I grew up.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm so glad my parents had me right there

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Speaker 3: and had me move over there, like move over there

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Speaker 3: and go in the old Park and having the best

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Speaker 3: of both worlds so I could get some of the city,

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Speaker 3: but I also got a nice structure.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I got I feel like, shit, shit, I did something right.

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Speaker 3: Looking around at times, I'd be like, man, something happened

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Speaker 3: the right way.

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Speaker 6: So that's what I was about to ask you though,

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Speaker 6: like you was kind of like the late bloomer. We

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Speaker 6: didn't talked about this before. So at what point in

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Speaker 6: your mind did it quick for you? Like all right,

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Speaker 6: I'm one of them, right, But then when did everybody

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Speaker 6: else start to take notice? Because I know that was

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Speaker 6: two different things. When you noticed, then when everybody else

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Speaker 6: knows it.

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Speaker 3: I got rings junior year, my junior year, going into

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Speaker 3: my senior year, kill the AAU circuit. They all talking

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Speaker 3: about me now now they're starting to consider all this

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Speaker 3: McDonald's stuff. Everybody, like we want to see who he's

445
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 3: gonna be. This season will be you know, supposed to

446
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 3: be like his year's breakout year. Let's see if he's

447
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 3: really that good. So now all these coaches is coming.

448
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 3: We lose two conference games, right, and I'll never forget this.

449
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 3: Adam Taylor, my teammate at the time, stands up and say,

450
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 3: because I was complaining, I'm like, we need to do this,

451
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 3: so we need to do better, y'all complaining that I'm

452
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 3: passing y'all like I don't want to play with y'all,

453
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 3: like I'm trying to shed like he dropped the past.

454
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 3: And he say, and stop with all the fucking excuses.

455
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 3: Everybody else got their superstar. They just go out there,

456
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 3: get fifty. We win, and that's it. Like go get

457
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 3: fifty then like stop passing to them, Like stop passing

458
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: to me if that's what it takes.

459
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,959
Speaker 2: But just don't get fifty then if you that goods

460
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 2: like he just.

461
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 5: Right.

462
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 3: And I sat in that locker room after he bo

463
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,239
Speaker 3: he left. I sat there, I was rocking back and

464
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: forth like this, and I sat there for a long

465
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 3: ass time and I'll never forgot. I called my grandmama

466
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: and I was like I was asking her life, am

467
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: I gonna be like, cause she my grandmama used to

468
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 3: I treated my grandma my whole life. I treated my

469
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 3: grandma like a prophet. Everything she said it always came true.

470
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 3: That was like my confessional time, like to talk with

471
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 3: my grandmama.

472
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: And she was like, you.

473
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 3: Gonna be as good as you want to be, but

474
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 3: you don't like leaving people behind, baby, And that's okay,

475
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 3: but one day you're gonna have to leave because they

476
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: not you. Like she was like, it's just not that

477
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 3: many people get blessed with it, but if you want

478
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 3: to do it, you gonna you are gonna have to

479
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 3: leave some people. Like that's the only way this life works.

480
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 3: She said that shit, and I sat there for a

481
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: long time. I didn't answer my phone for a while.

482
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 3: And then the next game I had like thirty and

483
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 3: then the game after that, I had like thirty five.

484
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 3: After that, it was like twenty eight twelve at eight,

485
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 3: and then it was like everybody was just like yeah,

486
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: but it was like it got to the point where

487
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: at the end of the game, if you tried to

488
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: walk off the court, I look at my coach like,

489
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: let me dunk this, and he'll be like, yeah, I

490
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 3: go in that bitch dunk boom because my whole life.

491
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 3: You know, back then, you had coaches that was like,

492
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 3: you're that good, but you don't want to play with

493
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: the team, but you're hard to coach, you're uncoachable.

494
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: I didn't want those taglines.

495
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 3: I had a father, like, I was very obedient to

496
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 3: what my dad if.

497
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: He said, hey, man, you need to listen to your coach.

498
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 3: If you should be good enough to be able to

499
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: do that, you can have twelve assists too. You know,

500
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 3: you could still do all the right things. Always get

501
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: back and off and I'm complaining. I'm you know, I

502
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: was starting my superstar bicker like and he was like

503
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: after a while, he was just like, gee, just don't

504
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: violate the coach, but you can find ways to win

505
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 3: with them. But when Adam Taylor challenged me, and then

506
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: my grandmama told me like, if you want to be great,

507
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to just leave some people.

508
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: Gee, Like, it can't be both.

509
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 3: You ain't finna, can't no man carry a team up

510
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: a mountain, and all of She's like, You're gonna have

511
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 3: to go up there yourself and then throw something down

512
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: to bring them up.

513
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 2: But you're gonna have to go yourself type.

514
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, Like, once she created

515
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 3: that for me, like after that, it was just like, Bro,

516
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: I don't care who in front of me. I left it.

517
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: I was at the gym on Friday night. All my

518
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 3: homies went to that school dance and it wasn't there.

519
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: I was in y'all wasn't. I was like, I want blood.

520
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 3: I just and it became very aggressive, like it was

521
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: in a time for me. Yeah, it was like I

522
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 3: was constantly screaming at my brother and my father in

523
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: the crowd. I would just talk to them because I

524
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: got a technical because I dunked on somebody and I

525
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: got a tech and Aurey told me, just like just

526
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: talk that shit to me, Bro, just talk that shit

527
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 3: to me. Like, don't stop talking that shit though, Like,

528
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 3: don't stop him.

529
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 5: And my dad was.

530
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 3: Giving me money. If I dunked on somebody, I war

531
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: thirty two. If I got a dunk, I got half

532
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 3: my number. If I dunk on somebody, I got thirty two.

533
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: If I dunked on somebody in one, I got fifty.

534
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: Bro. I had bread.

535
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: Brother was mad and hell, he's like man, I ain't

536
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: gonna worked extra hours, but I do want to keep killing.

537
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: I want there to keep killing, so we gotta bet

538
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: going cause.

539
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: But they ain't know I could even dunk that consistently yet,

540
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: so they didn't know I was really gonna be pulling it.

541
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 3: They said it thinking I was gonna have one or

542
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: two this season, type of kid.

543
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: If my cousin wasn't betting me no more. I mean dunks,

544
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: I'm getting the game. He was like, Bro, you broke

545
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: that sees you.

546
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 5: Bro.

547
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: He went from one hundred dollars a dunk to hey,

548
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: we gotta go all the way to fifty to twenty five.

549
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: You getting too many. I'm getting like four dunks a game.

550
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: That's a hundred.

551
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 4: I did that.

552
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: Real talk though, But get to that point where that

553
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 3: made walk it like that, you know what I'm saying, Q.

554
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: That's when I really reached in my back.

555
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: Like when I was started game and it was no

556
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: I was no longer in the warm up with my team.

557
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 7: I was there.

558
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: I knew the warm up, but I wasn't there like

559
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 3: I mentally was somewhere else. I was always it was

560
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: like I had to score the first point. People didn't

561
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: know I was going through this in my mind. But

562
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, I have to score the first point. It

563
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: got to be what I want do I want a

564
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 3: left hand layup or right hand layup, whatever it is.

565
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm going what I want to do. I don't care

566
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 2: what y'all got set up.

567
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: You got a zone set up, cool, I'm finna see

568
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: how your zone is gonna react to just driving super

569
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: hard left.

570
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: Well, all right, but I'm.

571
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 3: Gonna just do something that I want to do, like

572
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: and I was able to. It helped me as a

573
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: man to like walk and be able to look my

574
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: coach dead in the eye and tell him exactly what

575
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: I was doing.

576
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: Like what do you do? Like you know, to play

577
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: nah he and walk off. But it wasn't like disrespectful.

578
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: It was just like he started realizing, like he's seeing

579
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: the games going down.

580
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: When I was in high school, I used to day

581
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: dream the game all day, just like I'm daydreaming of

582
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do Today's this game you used.

583
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: To do that.

584
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: You walking walking through the mall that used today dream

585
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: like oh man, tonight at the game. And then it's

586
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: it wind up happening like that in the game when

587
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: you get the opportunity and you feel like, oh, here

588
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: it comes.

589
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: I was thirsty to do that in high school. I

590
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: wish I did it a lot in high school.

591
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: It was just like I don't know, because we have

592
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: school and stuff like that that it makes you day

593
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: dream more. But I used to go to sleep or

594
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: I take a nap, and you know how you're asleep

595
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: and your dreamer be about the game, and then when

596
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: you get in the game, it's like deja vu or

597
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: you jumping.

598
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: Class realize.

599
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: Like, oh.

600
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: But you in your mind it is confirmation like at

601
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: least I'm in the right place mentally, y'all don't I

602
00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: just said forty.

603
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: But how did you feel, like you know, you had

604
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: your high school career, how did you feel making the

605
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: McDonald's team, Like, like at the history of folks that

606
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: came from Chicago.

607
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 4: Illinois, the dogs that came through there.

608
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: I was never.

609
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 3: A all star game player, if that made sense. I

610
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 3: didn't really understand the concept of your turn, your turn,

611
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: your turn, your turn, we get blown out but still

612
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: take turns. I can't get with that. So it was

613
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: times they gave me the ball like on some your

614
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: kill type of thing. But it was like, gee, we

615
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: down seven, like I want to play you know, maybe one.

616
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 3: We go back at each other a couple of times,

617
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 3: but within a competitive game, but when they just was

618
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 3: playing regular it was just a weird experience for me.

619
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 5: It was dope.

620
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: Definitely be in the like like conversation.

621
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: On the history, Like my thing about I hated Camp George, Yeah,

622
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: the Camps.

623
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: I hated All Star game.

624
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: But my thing about the McDonald's game, that was the

625
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: one that the best of the best every year was gone,

626
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: and then I wanted to be one of the ones

627
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: that was from Illinois.

628
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 4: So that was the one All Star game.

629
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: When I came into it from practice to the game,

630
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: I went super hard because that was like the first

631
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: time I was on TV, the first time I could

632
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: get like showcase where everybody could really see me. So

633
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: that was the one that I went hard. But the

634
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: rest of them, I used to be like, come on, man, here, y'all.

635
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 5: Can have it.

636
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: Shoot all the rocks, you walk, let me get a

637
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: dunkle two and I'm gonna get out of your way.

638
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: It was dope. It that's the first time they do

639
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: your ESPN.

640
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: It was going crazy, but it was like, I don't know,

641
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: it's still I only could live it through my dad.

642
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: Like when I saw my dadd emotionally proud talking about

643
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: it to people like.

644
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: Like that was he was proud of your accomplishment.

645
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: He was like on some like he was on the

646
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: phone all day with people like, yeah, they're playing this

647
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: clip right now.

648
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, pap.

649
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: Going down there.

650
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: But I ain't never seen him tweaking like that, running

651
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: it back over and over. But he was looking and

652
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: he was having moments where he looking at me, but

653
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: he looking at me like, damn, you really did, like

654
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: you really going, like you going? But he kept looking

655
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: at me, Pop what you like what you looking at?

656
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: But he was so happy about it that he was

657
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: just telling me like I just I'm proud of you,

658
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: like you doing it.

659
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: Your grade is good.

660
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: I had to worry about trying to have to pay

661
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: for school, buddy, like you him, you know when you

662
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: just see the proud feeling like I saw it, and

663
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: through him being so proud, my mama got proud because

664
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: she don't know what's going on. But now people running

665
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: up to her like mister, your son going to the NBA,

666
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: and she's just sort of like, bro, this is real,

667
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: Like because she was an art instructor.

668
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: So people coming in popping in like hey man, that's

669
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: your son.

670
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: This this is She like yeah, but but she started realizing, like, boy,

671
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: everybody talking about you. My grandmama was, you know, still there,

672
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: but she was like no, this is like if you

673
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: do that, She's like all of them was there, Jordan's

674
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: all the best and went through there.

675
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: She's like you good? You yeah, like yeah, you in

676
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: the door. Good. She's like, yeah, don't don't get all

677
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: your friends your shoes. They give some free shoes, keep

678
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: your shoes.

679
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 5: Start doing that.

680
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: You don't get the tweaking. You ain't got nobody, don't.

681
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: Start no, Right, So when you decided to come out,

682
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: could have been anybody else other than Georgia. Yeah, it

683
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: was supposed to be North Carolina for real, real, that's

684
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: where you wanted to go. When North Carolina first knocked

685
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: at the door, man, like you got to think.

686
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a I'm a huge Jordan fanatic.

687
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: So right right right looking at it, like if I

688
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: could go there, I you know, whatever they was doing there,

689
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: got it good.

690
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But that's when I'm naive.

691
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: I ain't even knowing.

692
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: It's just like, once I got to North Carolina and

693
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: did all the visits and everything, and I realized, like, man,

694
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 3: all these courts the same man, different colors, but they

695
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: all the same. You know what I'm saying. Some of

696
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: them is cleaning them other floors. You know what I'm saying,

697
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 3: It's more grip. But I started like I wasn't as

698
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: like geeked out no more, because I was like, gee,

699
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: if I go here, just who I am as a person.

700
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 3: If I go ahead to North Carolina one, y'all not

701
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: promising me I'm gonna play point guard. Y'all trying to

702
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: throw me at three men and two just because I'm capable.

703
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I don't even see the game the

704
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: right way unless I'm at the top of the key.

705
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: Work type shit, Just work with me. Georgia Tech Paul

706
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: Heo had already said, oh, man, I like a big

707
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: point guard. You're playing point guard. You go here four years,

708
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: four years at point guard. I'm like, perfect, you know

709
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

710
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: That They was kind of like telling me, you know,

711
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: Roy Williams was just like he already signed Larry Drew.

712
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: Okay, and Larry Drew was that, you know, at that time.

713
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: It was he was that man.

714
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, That name his brand already

715
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: with his pop being in the league, he understood things

716
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: a lot of us didn't understand yet he had the

717
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: learning curve, so to them, he was the better point

718
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: guard fit and I would have been a great two

719
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: combo where it's like when he's tired, he go down.

720
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: His mom played point for a little bit, but mostly

721
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: Mom was supposed to be the two guard, and I

722
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: was just more comfortable with the point guard ship. Then

723
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: I took all my visits and they had it too good. Bro,

724
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: I can't have it that good, you.

725
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.

726
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: My personality who I hill too.

727
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: Like that'd be scary for you, Like I know it was.

728
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: It was like that for me, Like I commit the

729
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: Saint John's because I was like, it's a black coach.

730
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: He relate to me more. I see a little bit

731
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: a few more black people. And when you see them

732
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: nor in the city, you see them in North Carolina's

733
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: and you see something in Kentucky's and you be like, man,

734
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm from the hood.

735
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: This is a little too clean. This is a little

736
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: too clean for me.

737
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 5: Right.

738
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: It wasn't even it wasn't even the clean on the campus,

739
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: like I good.

740
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: Like no matter wh I picked right now, it's gonna

741
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: be plush as far as facility campus, upper echelon. I'm

742
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: gonna get a good degree. I'm straight either way I go.

743
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: But when I'm man, had it good, I'm talking about

744
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: go eat. Everybody know who you are? You ain't paying bills?

745
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Was talking to me

746
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: about doing my papers and ship. I'm like, bro, what

747
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: the you know what I'm saying. I'm like, I haven't

748
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: even you know what I mean.

749
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: I'm talking about these just random students just coming up

750
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: to us just because they can't believe we're gonna go

751
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: to North Carolina. You know I'm saying. But I'm like,

752
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: I started thinking about it. Like the only place that

753
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: wasn't like that Georgia Tech. All the kids that had

754
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: work to do, nobody really like when I came to

755
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: the football game, they rocked with me cause they was

756
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: like he cool.

757
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know, you know a

758
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: couple of girls like you know who is.

759
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like it wasn't like oh here you born,

760
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: come here. It wasn't all that. It was everybody was

761
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 3: just sort of doing a thing. Like you said black.

762
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Well, it wasn't a black school,

763
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: but it's a.

764
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: Right here.

765
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: Look how I'm used to sit looking like and it

766
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: was a feeld where it was like I'm gonna have

767
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: to grind here, like I'm still it's still the mud,

768
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

769
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 6: Like, Yeah, when I worked for Turner, it's right across

770
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 6: Georgia Tech campus.

771
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 5: I see it now.

772
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: It was like going over park.

773
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: You got on the corner.

774
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 6: If you think about it, though, something it's very similar

775
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 6: to how DePaul is too in Chicago. Like you know

776
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Depot is right there there, smacks like

777
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 6: is this what?

778
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: What?

779
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 6: Just like this ain't a campus, Like yeah, like I

780
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 6: know what's going on.

781
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 5: I know what's going on? What's going on?

782
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: They joking that out right there? I can't going to school.

783
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 5: Right, little little activities going on.

784
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: It's like with that that was relatable, Like I got

785
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: campus where it's like yeah, but I could walk right

786
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 3: across the street and it's right back to normal life,

787
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: normal speed.

788
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Everybody got something to do.

789
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of black successful people here like

790
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 3: I saw women that own stores Like that was the

791
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: first for me.

792
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

793
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: I wasn't walking into no black owned it was black

794
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: owned everything.

795
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: I was like this.

796
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: Old spots of sources of stuff everything I.

797
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: Go without the accent and a bunch of land like

798
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: no crib, Like we don't have no but I'm like,

799
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: if we had land, we probably would kick it, just

800
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: like this bro.

801
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 2: Like That's how I felt.

802
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: So when I could relate those two, I was just like, gee,

803
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 3: I'm a and you're gonna promise me point guard.

804
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: It was a no brainer for me.

805
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: Like they lied to me and told me they had

806
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: a sports broadcasting program that it took me to the

807
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: CNN building last tell me everything.

808
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: They had nothing.

809
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: Outside technology and coached the major man cool that's basically

810
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: communications with a fancy name. But that worked out for

811
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: me because I shit, I like to talk my way

812
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 3: through shit anyway. I like to talk about experiences, storyteller

813
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: all that shit.

814
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: So it worked out.

815
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: I don't even remember you getting hurt in college, but

816
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: how was that when you got hurt in college?

817
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: Room out of left after my first year.

818
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: The sophomore year, you got hurt.

819
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: Sophomore year, I rehurt.

820
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 4: You rehurt what you hurt your freshman year?

821
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

822
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: I know that.

823
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: When it happened, it was right before I was supposed

824
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: to go higher agent and do all that. So I

825
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: think it kind of make NBA people probably looked at

826
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: it like he's scared, like he ain't ready to leave,

827
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: because everybody, all the humies was like one year we up.

828
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: You know, I remember talking to you. They're like, you're

829
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: not You're not leaving? Like you what you doing? Man? Like?

830
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 5: Well, what you doing?

831
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: Man? We all supposed to be leaving. We all dipping in.

832
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

833
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 3: Like?

834
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 2: What do you what you doing?

835
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: And I was we hain't got our head beat in

836
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: all year, bro, And I don't like losing.

837
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: I'm like you who goes to the league on twelve nineteen?

838
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 4: So that what made you focus more your junior year

839
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 4: and just come in like, yeah, I'm.

840
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: Fing to kill Yeah, because my sophomore year it was

841
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: like I was trying to win.

842
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: I wanted some of that tournament. I ain't getting no

843
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: turning action. I needed that. Then they made sure we

844
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: played evident. Then they made sure me.

845
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: Got me and d Fade found out you know what

846
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Ohio State, there stay a little way into

847
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying to the boat and all that,

848
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: we ain't go hang on hat on.

849
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: It over alonger. But I wanted to win.

850
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: I wanted that winning, and then after that I had

851
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: to get clean up. And I was like, I don't

852
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 3: want to do the workouts and ship without being able

853
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: to test how I could physically test. So I waited.

854
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 3: I did the junior year. And that's why my junior

855
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: like you said, it was team wise. It was the

856
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 3: thing my grandmother created in my head. Again team wise.

857
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: I kind of knew I don't have the horses to

858
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: go as far unless I inspire it or you know,

859
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: spark it. I knew I had a couple of young

860
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: guns and Glenn Rice and Brian.

861
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: Oliver that could get hot.

862
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: And they had the Buddy Hill Gaen where whether y'all

863
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: believe it or not, they believe they that good, and

864
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: I need them to believe they that good.

865
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, then stay hot.

866
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't understand that there's the players

867
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: that yeah, they may not be that good the best,

868
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: but if you have somebody like a Rondo or a

869
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: Jason kidd, then they become even better than they think

870
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: they are. You're saying, because somebody is able to gasp

871
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: in successful spots and they had that conscious that.

872
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: It's like, I didn't miss the last shot. Who saw that?

873
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

874
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 6: That's what all shoot, bro, I don't know that.

875
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 2: I thought that went in air. Boa Damn, I thought

876
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: that was good.

877
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: Like, but you need that because there's a lot of

878
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: players that are too conscious of I missed my last too.

879
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: I shouldn't shoot this, you know what I'm saying, Like

880
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: I ran into that problem plenty of times playing this

881
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: three in d row where it's like, damn, I done

882
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: shot at oh four or two games in a row,

883
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: Shoot it another four five times?

884
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: Bro, you need to shoot Kennedy is a game to

885
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: know how many you make. I don't care.

886
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 3: Throw me whatever you want to throw, shoot that too, like,

887
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: and it's like at the wow, you can catch fire,

888
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just man.

889
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: Your draft did you work out for a bunch of teams?

890
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeh, yeah, I went on the world tour. Boy, what

891
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: did you think that.

892
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: You you don't know?

893
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 7: No, no, you can't even talk to him like that.

894
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 5: Because you don't know powder like that. But you ain't

895
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: like us. He's one of them.

896
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 6: He's one of them silver spoon casts that had a

897
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 6: couple of little meet and Shunk wasn't going nowhere, going

898
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 6: to the steaks and sitting down, being winding down, being

899
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 6: talked to.

900
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 5: He ain't gotta do no turn down.

901
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: I was chasing my life exactly.

902
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 7: We can't.

903
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: We can't get in the same Jim, you're supposed to

904
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: be thirteen better than me. Put me in the gym

905
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: with deep Bush. He's thirteen.

906
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: We was at the NBA workout thing, and you know

907
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: how they do the stress test.

908
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: They put the stickers on. You ain't got to run

909
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 4: on the trail mill. So I'm looking at queue and

910
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 4: run on that trailmill. Man, No boys run on that

911
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 4: trail mill. Run the whole time. I'm like, damn them

912
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: boys in shape. So I get on that up man

913
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 4: and mother. I said, hey, I'm about to get off.

914
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 7: He said, no, a few a few more sake.

915
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: I said, I'm about to jump off, And I jumped

916
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: off that motherfucker.

917
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: That boy said, damn you you did like two minutes.

918
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 7: You're sbout to get your whole joint up.

919
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 5: I'm saying that we all standing again.

920
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 7: The man was like, he said, they left that thing?

921
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: He man, he turned around like he.

922
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 7: Holding on to the ball. Man, I'm about to get off.

923
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 7: He was like, I'm about to get off, he said,

924
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 7: turned around, man hoped.

925
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 5: Whatever. Man let his head.

926
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 7: And look what what you know? What the that is

927
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 7: gonna do that about?

928
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: Man?

929
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 7: Man six nine twenty and shoes?

930
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: He stand.

931
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 7: Like you he stepping out.

932
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: He takes When was the first am I ever doing this?

933
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 5: Distressed?

934
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: That was looking worried. I'm like, Man, then I got on.

935
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 4: I was like, sh that ship hard.

936
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 7: To We just did it.

937
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: Look, I won't say that's when you talking about that?

938
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: When you in that top fourteen, they felt like they

939
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 3: had to do much and everything was solidified. Like I

940
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: didn't even know, Like Bro, when I got there and

941
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: they showed me that there was a draft wall, I'm like, bro,

942
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: who makes the list? O? Yeah, Like it's a bunch

943
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: of unathletic behind a computer telling me.

944
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: Who the best?

945
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: Show me, bro, no, lie, please ask Donnie Walsh how

946
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: I acted during my draft workout with the next Bro.

947
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 5: What you did? That's what I wanted to ask you.

948
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: I lost my bybe Bro. I completely lost it. I

949
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: completely forgot who I was. I was young and that

950
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: I'm like no because he supposed to be better than me,

951
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: and I don't love sick of this shit. I've been

952
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: going all around you. I'm talking about I lost. I'm

953
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: flying all around the country. You want him, you want him?

954
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: Show me, bro, really real talk because I'm not going

955
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: back home. Bro, So come on, I'm all that one

956
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: on one. Look, we're shooting the threes, doing all that.

957
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 3: I'm shooting the three. I'm making twenty three out of

958
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: twenty five. I don't do that from three. To tell

959
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: you the truth, I don't like I'm not even I

960
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 3: can't even sometimes get my mind to say, I'm about

961
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: to shoot twenty five shots from this spot by myself,

962
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 3: over and over because I'm working on it. It's hard

963
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: for me to do that. But it was hard at

964
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: twenty one. It was extremely hard because it's like, this

965
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: ain't basketball. I've never seen an open shot.

966
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: Bro.

967
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: When you that guy, you don't get no open shot.

968
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: So when am I gonna stand here with no competition

969
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: and just shoot? I didn't even you know what I'm saying.

970
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: I don't understand the NBA game. Yet I ain't know

971
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: Mellow was taking a double team every pay. I ain't

972
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: know they weren't gonna let my man play ball at all.

973
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: Start swinging, I'm like, damn.

974
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: And then sometimes he's scoring it, whether they double or not.

975
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 3: He's just shooting over the double two, that's what. But

976
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 3: you you start seeing shit like that. And when I

977
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 3: was in them workouts, like I lost it in New York,

978
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: me and Josh Shell, we got into it, you know,

979
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 3: me and Josh Shell be got cool because we fucked

980
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: in our draft work out with the Bulls.

981
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: That's why we was cool. Because he wanted it.

982
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: Bad and he went he did a move and like,

983
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: you know, he little chicken wing me. But I don't

984
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 3: be tripping. So then I do. I go by, you know,

985
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 3: and I make a move and for real, for real,

986
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: it seemed as if I was gonna score with my

987
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: left and use my shoulder to hold him off. And

988
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: I just two foot and exploded through and put it

989
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: right in his space to where he had to go

990
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: like this, But he ended up getting caught.

991
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: H remember laying the ball up.

992
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: I'll running back and I just feel somebody just about

993
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 3: that breathe man, he said, and we put them gloves on, Shortes.

994
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: It got into it.

995
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 3: We throw bulls. We just got ready to start fighting.

996
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: Joe and the bulls. Coaches loved it. They loved it.

997
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: They was no, no, no, it's good.

998
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: That's good.

999
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: That's good, and we like After that, it was like, Dawn,

1000
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 3: I love this man, bro.

1001
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: We got in the locker room.

1002
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: Everybody was like thinking, like, we're gonna have to calm

1003
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: the tension down.

1004
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: We was already laughing.

1005
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: Ben Mane like, Shorty, I'm just saying, like I'm trying

1006
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: to make the league. I can't let it go through

1007
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: my face like you like. We was just like so

1008
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: like me and Josh's coming from the same type of

1009
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: perspective of I left hired an agent and I told

1010
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: everybody this is what I'm doing.

1011
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: So I'm doing it. I'm fully committing to it.

1012
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: So if somebody in the way and his the you know,

1013
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: when you're with your girl, that'd be like your love language,

1014
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: if his hoop language. You know, what I'm saying is

1015
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: fight on this. Were fighting because yes, we is gonna

1016
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: fight for this one spot left in the league. We're

1017
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 3: fighting for. We were going to tell me this though

1018
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: first did you know that, Nick? Did you after that workout?

1019
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 5: So you knew that?

1020
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: So you I worked out for Phoenix and I called

1021
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: Jimmy for that slipping. I don't know why he worked

1022
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: out with me slimming.

1023
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking if Phoenix don't, I'm thinking, Phoenix don't

1024
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: take me. I need a backup playing type of thing.

1025
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: But I told my agent, I think Phoenix gonna take me.

1026
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: It'd be hard for them not somebody would have had

1027
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: to come do something better.

1028
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 2: And I don't think they worked out as good.

1029
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the Big Man was doing the pick

1030
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: the ball up off the block, drop step, dunk drill.

1031
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: They doing that. Big Man finished with seventeen. I go

1032
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: up there, twenty one of them bits. Yeah you know how?

1033
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: You know how we do that? Yeah, March. Oh you

1034
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, I'm like Dad the wild out.

1035
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 3: It ain't no way they letting something slip at thirty.

1036
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 5: Hey, look this is sidebar.

1037
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 6: But this is just an example where I love to

1038
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 6: talk my shit about our city and our guard fields.

1039
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like you go, Shannon Brown,

1040
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 6: you go, Courty, get you go, t A, you go, Shump,

1041
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 6: you go dero. Everybody like this and everybody with this

1042
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 6: ship and everybody throwing that I'm talking about you already

1043
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 6: know vertical? Have you gonna do it? We getting up?

1044
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 6: Then we all.

1045
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 5: Had I love it.

1046
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 3: That would love just what I wanted to bring, because

1047
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, gee, all, like once you got to the

1048
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: workout and you saw everybody shoot they twenty five from

1049
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: every spot. You see everybody doing their ball handling, you

1050
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: like we all got the same ship. Because y'all asking

1051
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: us to do a drill, none of this is gonna

1052
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 3: get it there. What y'all need to see is when

1053
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: we start hooping, who is like that? I'm like, y'a

1054
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: ain't gonna be quiet because I ain't like that, Brom.

1055
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: I'm not a quiet person. You just find somebody to

1056
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: inspire you. And because Jimmer, for that, he didn't know

1057
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: I was looking for him on the schedule, like we

1058
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: didn't even know what was going on, I'm like, cuz

1059
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: y'all didn't get me a game, I'm thirsty.

1060
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: And I was thirsty as hell.

1061
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: I know he was looking like, damn, my double snatch

1062
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: cross move ain't worked like that worked all year?

1063
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 6: Like, oh no, how did you feel like you get

1064
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 6: drafted right now you in New York. That's a whole

1065
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 6: different beast and energy of itself. Not only that, like

1066
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 6: you a rook you know what I'm saying. You hit

1067
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 6: the scene and you getting to play like you a

1068
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 6: fan favorite. Then like just what you're saying. When you

1069
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 6: got mellow, you got your teammate stayed.

1070
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 5: Rocking with you.

1071
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 6: You start the Knicks tape, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1072
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 6: tell me the energy and everything that was with that city.

1073
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 6: Just talk about how it is to be a Nick

1074
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 6: and how it is to plan because you got a

1075
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 6: taste of it when it was semi It wasn't like great.

1076
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: But it was a lot of fun for me.

1077
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: I think it was some of my best years playing basketball.

1078
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: My learning curve was a lot. That was my first

1079
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: major injury coming into it. Though.

1080
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 3: I think that our staff did a pretty good job

1081
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: initially once the coaching changing shit happened.

1082
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 2: That was in like year three. Once what he got out.

1083
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: Of there, then it started getting a little iffy with

1084
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: like they didn't know how to take blows in the

1085
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 3: media to where the media didn't feel real to us,

1086
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: especially for somebody young like me, Like at first when

1087
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: they was telling me about an article. I was like,

1088
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 3: and they had to get me to realize, like, whoa, whoahoa,

1089
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: this is New York. They gonna ask you this tomorrow.

1090
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: You better have an answer, bro, like or they gonna

1091
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: talk about this all week.

1092
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

1093
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: But to me, I'm like, y'all ain't one shit. So

1094
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: if we lose a game, it ain't like y'all had

1095
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 3: Oh That's how I was looking at it. I'm like,

1096
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: y'all moved me when I was I really don't care.

1097
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: They was like, they had to give me the proper training,

1098
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: like g No. Luckily for you, you play with Melo

1099
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: and Amari and Mellow shouldered so much of it.

1100
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: Amari shouldered so much of it Tyson wiggling.

1101
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 3: Answers that I could piggyback on and just say, oh yeah,

1102
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: like what he said, type shit, you know what I'm saying.

1103
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: I could do that, and the pressure was lifted in

1104
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: a way. Then I had Jason Kidd, I have Rashid Wallace,

1105
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: guys that stepped in and sort of deflected Chris on

1106
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: the line. I ain't saying it just because the motherfucker

1107
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: on here, but he did a great job of prepping

1108
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: me and saying, Emon, I know you don't give a fuck,

1109
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 3: and that's cool, that's cool, But this is New York.

1110
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 3: This is how you have to do it. This is

1111
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: what This is why you guys get paid so much.

1112
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: This is the business side of things. This is what

1113
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: I need you to do. I need you guys to

1114
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: do this, do that. Anytime you pay a bill. I

1115
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: need you guys to make sure that you are tipping,

1116
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: that you're doing things that to me.

1117
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

1118
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: But that's all part of.

1119
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 5: Paid six.

1120
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 6: Talk about that man on tip that the restaurants in

1121
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 6: the Met's distruction.

1122
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: Though it's like that'll be news in New York, it ain't.

1123
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: Is Ima ready to go tonight to play dot dot

1124
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: is Emon was up last night at a restaurant too

1125
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 3: late and didn't even pay the bill.

1126
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: It's like, what I did pay the bill, Oh, but

1127
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 2: he didn't tip.

1128
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: He's a cheap tipper and he asked for a lot

1129
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: of service all night and that's why he missed three

1130
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: shots today. Like, bro, what that don't make sense to me,

1131
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: but it made sense to New York. So I had

1132
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: to realize what they was telling me, Like whether this

1133
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: ship is real to you or not. It's it's all

1134
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 3: the same thing with understanding branding, understanding how to promote something,

1135
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: how to sell something, make money on something, like it

1136
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be real to the person that doesn't

1137
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: agree insists in to see. It has to make sense

1138
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: to the consumer, to the people like to fans that

1139
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 3: don't know what's really going on. It do matter what

1140
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 3: you was doing. Maybe that food is why you didn't play.

1141
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 3: That's cool for them, you know what I'm saying. I

1142
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: never understood why the Knicks don't how they did with

1143
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: that nineties team, Like why y'all don't keep a team

1144
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: for long enough.

1145
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: To see if they good. Just see if they good,

1146
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: get him all contracts and just see if they good.

1147
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 6: Like I think, I think what you're saying though, Like

1148
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 6: it's not even as easy, especially now. That team y'all

1149
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 6: had was a chance to do it, Like when they

1150
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 6: got Mellow and they had on the belt, you know

1151
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 6: it was yeah, the discount double check, Like yeah, but

1152
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 6: but see that's the part. The biggest thing about y'all

1153
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 6: team was that you had two guys that were prime

1154
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 6: their career, they were superstars in the league, and Amari

1155
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 6: he raised his saying said, I'm not ready to go

1156
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 6: to New York. I'll go And he went there and

1157
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 6: he was holding it, he was putting it down. Then

1158
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 6: they win and they you know, they traded like half

1159
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 6: the team to get Mellow there. If they would have

1160
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 6: kept them boys, could you imagine if they kept them

1161
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 6: boys and Mellow came into summer, they still had Wilson

1162
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 6: and Gallo and all of them felt them that they

1163
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 6: traded away and they still got all of that.

1164
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: And then they just add that shit would have ended my.

1165
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 3: Talk.

1166
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 6: But but but but no, listen, even even staying that though,

1167
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 6: like what they lacking is the superstar stepping up saying

1168
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 6: I'll go there and let's build and let's do it.

1169
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 6: Because everybody looking at that, like like KD had a

1170
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 6: quote he came out like, I'm not about to base

1171
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 6: my legacy on coming there and scooping them out of

1172
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 6: infamy after they've been doing what they've been doing for ever.

1173
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 6: Then if I go there, my whole legacy gonna be

1174
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 6: hinged on whether I was able to revive that or not.

1175
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 6: If I didn't, I ain't on nothing, like nah, I

1176
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 6: don't want that pressure.

1177
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 5: I'm about to go chill up.

1178
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 6: They like stuck between a rock and a hard place,

1179
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 6: so to speak, because you gotta find that special player,

1180
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 6: that special superstar who A stands up and says I

1181
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 6: want that, But b they gotta be able to actually

1182
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 6: do it. That was the thing about Melo, and they

1183
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 6: were able to do it. They had to make up

1184
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 6: to where not only could I go out here, I

1185
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 6: could ball on the court and do what needed to

1186
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 6: be done, but like you said, they were able to

1187
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 6: shoulder and shield you from stuff in the media and stuff.

1188
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 6: Because they were they were able to deal with like

1189
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 6: Melo deal with that media and all of that stuff

1190
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 6: in New York, even all the way on to his

1191
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 6: exit when Phil Jackson was doing them bogus and all

1192
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 6: that stuff, Like Melo deal with that thing better than

1193
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 6: anybody I could have even envisioned doing it. That's the

1194
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 6: type of players that the Knicks have to try and

1195
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 6: get superstars. It ain't got sensitive skin, is it's really

1196
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 6: gonna be able to handle New York and every.

1197
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: Single with it.

1198
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: It's definitely a lot, just media wide period, like they

1199
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 3: pull out stats that just don't make no sense, Like

1200
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: like people breakdown that Mellow's third quarter assists to turnover

1201
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: ratio this year is down ten times worse than it

1202
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 3: wasn't when he was with the Nuggets. It'd be like, Bro,

1203
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 3: what type of stats do y'all be going off of?

1204
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: Bro?

1205
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 6: I knew, I knew it was real when we was

1206
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 6: there and they was putting my teammates like if they

1207
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 6: were hurt of some of they hadn't been playing. They

1208
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 6: would put how much money he's been paid based on

1209
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 6: per game. They'd be like breaking down at how many

1210
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars a minute and all of this stuff.

1211
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 5: But it be flaking. I'm talking about back page that

1212
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 5: is boom boom boom with the rundown.

1213
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 3: So much distraction that it's like for somebody that can

1214
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 3: stay even killed and you need to have that wire

1215
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: that don't touch. You have to to play in that

1216
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: because you have to be so comfortable in yourself and

1217
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: knowing you put in the work and it's gonna happen

1218
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: for you if you get enough time. You have to

1219
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 3: be so committed to that to walk through that city,

1220
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: because that city.

1221
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: Will you'll have a bad game.

1222
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: In a bad game, y'all, you can individually play well

1223
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: and not feel confident walking around the city just from

1224
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 3: that energy, just being bad because the Knicks lost today

1225
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 3: and they lost back when homies dad bought seats for

1226
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 3: Patrick Ewing, I'd be like, Bro, I'm twenty one years old.

1227
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what Patrick, you and the man going on? Bro,

1228
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: I ain't get a ball to Charles Smith. Yeah, y'all tweeting, Bro,

1229
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: I don't do that with me. Bro, Eddie Curry and

1230
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 3: came through here. They was doing anything. Y'all paid them.

1231
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: I ain't got nothing to do with that. Don't mess

1232
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 3: up my blessing because you feel like Eddie Curry and

1233
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: Nate Robinson laughed too much or some shit like that.

1234
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: Ain't got nothing to do with me, Bro, Like, don't

1235
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: put that on me because I put on the next jersey.

1236
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: We ain't off from here. Everybody ain't from New York, right,

1237
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: We just hooping. We just hit a hoop. Tell me

1238
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: a fan want to win more than me?

1239
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: Straight up, straight up, one.

1240
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 3: Four hundred in the league, it's a lot of guys

1241
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: that might not care about winning as much as other guys.

1242
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 3: But it ain't no fan that want to win more

1243
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 3: than the NBA basketball player. It's no thing. So they

1244
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 3: could get that ship out their head. Get that ship

1245
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: out of that because you ain't. You don't want to

1246
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: win more than him. Bro, You'll be surprised what he'll

1247
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: do to.

1248
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 4: Beat you with the next one of them years.

1249
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: You to your a cl my rookie end of my

1250
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: rookie year.

1251
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 4: The end of your rookie year was playoff game.

1252
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 5: He rode to.

1253
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 4: Mind mm hmm.

1254
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: I remember telling us on the bench that the roads to.

1255
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Here I heard the story is your wife. That's when

1256
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: y'all got closer. She took care of you while you

1257
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: to your a cl Now my a cl. She came

1258
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: when I had to.

1259
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: I had meniscus clean up that I got at the

1260
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: end of my second year, and and we had just

1261
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: shot for her her styling company, because I had finally

1262
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: just dealt with her friends on shiit like she had

1263
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 3: tried the friends one me. Oh, I wasn't going for it.

1264
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: And then after a while I was just like, all right,

1265
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 3: I don't care no more. But I was comfortable, like

1266
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: I'll talk about females in front of her whatever, like

1267
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: we really.

1268
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: Was just kicking.

1269
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: We did that, and then a week later she was

1270
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: hitting me trying to see where I was at.

1271
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: Because she needed me to plan the Dytman league. She

1272
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: had her Dykeman team.

1273
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: And she's like where you at, like trying to see

1274
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: where I'm at. And then I'm like, I'm at the crib.

1275
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 3: She's like we're at and I'm like one hundred forty

1276
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: eight and say, nigga, She's like, man, stop playing, Like no,

1277
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 3: for real, I'm at the crib. You know I got

1278
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: a brown Stone at all, you know, I'll be chilling.

1279
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 3: She like, no, I'm down the street from your house.

1280
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: You serious?

1281
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 5: I'm like yeah.

1282
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: She's like, while you're living in Harlem, like she was

1283
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: just bucked out with it.

1284
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 3: She came and I wasn't ready for her to come

1285
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: here though, so I like hobbled down the stairs. You know,

1286
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: I'm on one leg and shit, I ain't feel like

1287
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 3: grabbing my crutches. I'm hopping down. My brother had just

1288
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: went back to Chicago to see his son. So, but

1289
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 3: she came over and was like, ain't nobody.

1290
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: Taking care of you? What's going on?

1291
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 3: Like going in like we just here by yourself, Like

1292
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 3: you're supposed to be a nick I'm looking like you

1293
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: don't even sing the anthem for us?

1294
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: What you do? And then she.

1295
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 3: Changed the whole schedule, you know, push some stuff back,

1296
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: moved some stuff around, and help me down. For a

1297
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: couple of days, she was like coming over cooking and ship,

1298
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 3: making sure I was straight.

1299
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: She would go get me some ice for my game

1300
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: ready and ship.

1301
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 3: She'll just like literally just kick it over there because

1302
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 3: she was already in Harlem with like people.

1303
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: I've been together since then, and we've been locked in

1304
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: right up, beautiful thing.

1305
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 5: Might come over there, cook for you, take care of

1306
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 5: you know.

1307
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: Back of like she wasn't even cooking right little meal

1308
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: she hit.

1309
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 3: Me with, like boy man, yeah colony, you know she

1310
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: hit me with the little son.

1311
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: Come I go to rehab.

1312
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 3: I come out of rehab, shorty ad the crib make

1313
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: Lazagnia with her friends. They making tacos, but they doing

1314
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: it on some fun ship. Like they got the music playing.

1315
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 5: They dance.

1316
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: Singing with black people love you cooking that you music.

1317
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 4: That's that vibe. Man, people.

1318
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: I love all them for being like it reminds me

1319
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: of the crib.

1320
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: Like you could literally go sit on the steps on

1321
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: the Brownstone and just watch people live off, watch people

1322
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 3: walk up and down the street.

1323
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: What was my soul Sylvia, Sylvia's going crazy Amy Rooth was.

1324
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 6: I love Amy Ruth, both the Sylvias and Amy a

1325
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 6: lot of mercy, a lot of.

1326
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: Like going and being in the hall them.

1327
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 3: It just reminded me of the crib so much because

1328
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: I just sit out there and people watch.

1329
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: Like I knew dogs in the neighborhood.

1330
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: Like I come back at the practice and they'll just

1331
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 3: be sitting on my stoop because they ain't got kids.

1332
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 5: We need coming like that.

1333
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 3: Actually come home every day at this time, like they

1334
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 3: coming home at one. Some days they coming in two thirty.

1335
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: Every day I.

1336
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 3: Went every day, I'll be here at this exact time twelve.

1337
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 4: I feel like the hood every day.

1338
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: They was doing something.

1339
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 3: It was just cool as fuck because I'm like, damn,

1340
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: they literally do what I do. Get dressed, go to

1341
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: their homie crib. Whoever crib was like in the center

1342
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 3: of everybody house. We all go over there. We're gonna

1343
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 3: beat you over there, whether you awake or not. By

1344
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 3: the time you wait to get up outside your window.

1345
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: Bro were coming in there, or your mama f let

1346
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 3: us in already, or were just gonna be on your

1347
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: stoop like your papmin ain't gonna get mad if he

1348
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: come out he was.

1349
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: Man and put that out. What y'all doing over here?

1350
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: Like that man?

1351
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 5: What hey, hey? This was this was one. So so

1352
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 5: you leave.

1353
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 4: You got trader, You got trade. I was leaving Mellow to.

1354
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 6: Lebron, right, Like, how was that going? Like leaving New

1355
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 6: York and then you're going to Cleveland. But the caveat

1356
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 6: is that you like you're saying you're going to contender,

1357
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 6: you got a chance to win, You're going to.

1358
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 5: Play with Lebron?

1359
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: How was it being in Memphis and being so confused

1360
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: because it didn't feel.

1361
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: Real And I had friends and family that was like, well.

1362
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 3: You for the play Brown, Like oh you bring like y'all,

1363
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, you realize what I said to that man

1364
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 3: while he was over there in Miami, like that man

1365
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,479
Speaker 3: might not like me too much. So they like, boy,

1366
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about if you're going

1367
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 3: over us because Braun picked so he won't.

1368
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 5: Shoot.

1369
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 2: Like that's how they looking at it.

1370
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 3: But I'm looking at it like, bro, my vet is

1371
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: Carmelo and I get they friends, but y'all are d Bro.

1372
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: Kind of feel like a female in between right now.

1373
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 3: I don't really like you I was like, I kind

1374
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: of feel with but I'm my loyalty. I even told

1375
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: Brian we laugh about it like it's funny now, like

1376
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 3: but I told him like it's just you know, he

1377
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: was just gonna take close steps.

1378
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like.

1379
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 3: I don't really mellows my man, it ain't faith, Bro,

1380
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 3: that's my fault.

1381
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like end of the day,

1382
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: that's my dog.

1383
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: Like it's nothing we could really we can't erace Like

1384
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 3: I also understood like that day when we in the

1385
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 3: locker room switch like hey, don't trip like we Fulda

1386
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 3: go over here hoop like we Fulda go to Cleveland

1387
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: and we feel the hoop like we're just in hell

1388
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 3: and now we're like that's how he looking at it,

1389
01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: like craded bepore so he understanding the I didn't get it.

1390
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 7: She's like, man, I'm nix taping this.

1391
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 5: I didn't like.

1392
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 6: We was, bro, we had a whole and what they

1393
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 6: doing like why would they do this to It's like

1394
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 6: we got the we finally got the city, like rolling

1395
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 6: in the right direction and you, Mama, that's exactly what I.

1396
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 4: Like.

1397
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 6: This is like what I'm telling you was like the

1398
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 6: way it was, it was a good time to be

1399
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 6: a Nick.

1400
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 4: Bro.

1401
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 7: It was a when I got there.

1402
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 6: Like you gotta remember, I was there for about four years,

1403
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 6: which was the basement years, the infamy, the such fool years. Literally, Bro,

1404
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 6: when I came back for that for that playoff, Bro,

1405
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 6: you know I was just there.

1406
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 7: I was the victory to God, I got the game.

1407
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, I was just there.

1408
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 7: But it was like I got so much free ship

1409
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 7: for that for that couple of months. I was there

1410
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 7: like just for like every time you turn around, you.

1411
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 6: Come to the locker room and he's by Dre Nick's tape

1412
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 6: head Fall, this Knicks tape, this NIXT.

1413
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 7: I was like, Bro, they you turn around, they got.

1414
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 3: Some time like even that NIXT tape time, Like I

1415
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: had this confidence like even though when they traded no

1416
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: bad we brought him by Yonny Like you know, MIBs

1417
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 3: wasn't really vibing. Was Shorty like that dog Like it

1418
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: was just a bad vibe move. Like short he could play.

1419
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: I ain't taking nothing away from he could play.

1420
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 5: It's just no.

1421
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 3: Fact vibe fit with us. He was, you know what

1422
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like Chris copelan.

1423
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 6: He was nixtaping his own way. He wasn't like that's

1424
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 6: what I loved about no bad. He wasn't trying to

1425
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 6: be y'all, but he still was with y'all.

1426
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: Copeland was with it.

1427
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: She gave us a confidence and a comfort that ain't

1428
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 3: nothing bigger than this shit, like this ship is just oo.

1429
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: And she'd help people fucking accountable. You know, Rep's accountable.

1430
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 3: He'll hold the security in the arena accountable. He don't, Yeah,

1431
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 3: he gonna hold people accountable. And then having Jason Kidd,

1432
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 3: who was like the only person I ever listened to.

1433
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 3: If he say, don't listen to coach, listen to what

1434
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: I just told you. Okay, you know that's my dog.

1435
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 3: Whatever you go off with you okay, Okay, Kid.

1436
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 6: That man.

1437
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 3: To me, it's like whatever you say is go, I'll

1438
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 3: do the Okay, hold it up for longer, Okay, it'll

1439
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 3: be up to our problem.

1440
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: Just fans meet the ball again from you. That was

1441
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: how I went.

1442
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: So I had this confidence, and when you took that

1443
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 3: from now I'm in Cleveland, it's just like, okay, so

1444
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 3: whoever paid me, I just I just like That's how

1445
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: it went, like That's how I felt like, even though

1446
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 3: we went in Cleveland, I love Cleveland.

1447
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: Like I wasn't hurt when I got traded from Cleveland.

1448
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: I wasn't like.

1449
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 3: I was just like, okay, I'll play and second, you

1450
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, like what's my number?

1451
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 2: Whenever am I wearing?

1452
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 5: Now? So that's that's the page you was on. Once

1453
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 5: you got there. You was numb to it like this

1454
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 5: this I'm off situation.

1455
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 3: I knew whatever situation they they didn't want me to

1456
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: be their backup point guard in Cleveland.

1457
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 5: Kyle was out.

1458
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't part of that plan.

1459
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: The reason I agreed to three and D because I

1460
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 3: thought three and D would grow into Okay, Letty Man

1461
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: play calm. But I thought I would be Sean Livingston.

1462
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 3: Y'all know, I'm gonna come in, I'm gonna run my swag.

1463
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 3: This is how the game go. But I thought it'd

1464
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 3: be nice to have the contrast to Kyle come in

1465
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 3: with Brin. They do their thing, how they do it.

1466
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 3: Fout that dial out Eymon come in. You know he

1467
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: played A one a little different. Now they gonna play

1468
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: this style for a little bit till he go back

1469
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: to the off ball, Like I thought that's how I

1470
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 3: was gonna go. It ain't go like that. And I

1471
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 3: was cool with that, like, okay, cool, y'all ain't rockinging

1472
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 3: me cool? But whatever team I go to, it's up.

1473
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this. With that being said, right,

1474
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 5: how did it feel for you?

1475
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 4: Like?

1476
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 6: All right, you got traded, all of that stuff happened,

1477
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 6: you had to deal with with getting over some things

1478
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 6: and figure some things.

1479
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 5: But how was it for you when you when you

1480
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 5: won that.

1481
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: Champions Uh, it was almost too satisfying.

1482
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 4: They're too good.

1483
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: It's too satisfying, and it's so cemented, you know.

1484
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: After a while, Like I said, once something is real

1485
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 3: to the rest of the world, if it's said to

1486
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: you enough, you'll ask your damn self if that's true.

1487
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 3: So it got to the point where I was like, damn,

1488
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 3: am I not focused? Am I like content that I

1489
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 3: have a championship? And I'm just maybe I'm not working

1490
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 3: that hard? Like am I? You know what I'm saying,

1491
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 3: Like That's how I thought about it. And then I

1492
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: was like, bron, fuck that because when I was in

1493
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: the gym, how I wanted to be in the gym.

1494
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 3: It was real life coaches like you and you could

1495
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 3: attest to this. Coaches would kick people out for trying

1496
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 3: to play ones with he mind because he mind needs

1497
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 3: to rest. So stop. It's a rule, don't play ones

1498
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: with that man. Get him off the court. That was

1499
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 3: the m on me. His body ain't gonna be ready

1500
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 3: for tomorrow because the man want to play ball all day.

1501
01:08:58,960 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 5: They didn't.

1502
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 3: He want to play one on one. Then you want

1503
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 3: to play shooting games. Now you want to sit around

1504
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 3: and talk shit like you mind getting there's something to

1505
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 3: even go home. But I ain't had no girl, no kids,

1506
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 3: no nothing. So it's like my whole life I'm getting that.

1507
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 3: And now it's like if I work out smart and

1508
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 3: I'm only here forty five minutes and my not working

1509
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 3: out the right way. Just like now, you need to

1510
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 3: be hard in the weight room recovery process. Make sure

1511
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 3: you stretched and you getting your soft tissue work. Make

1512
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 3: sure you getting a lot of reps up shooting the ball,

1513
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 3: and make sure that you're adding one thing to your

1514
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 3: game this summer. Like that's a vet's like summer plan.

1515
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 3: I think getting a champion shipped. It tweaked me out

1516
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 3: because a lot of.

1517
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 2: The like I gotta I gotta, I gotta, I gotta.

1518
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 3: It was gone because it was like I got a ring,

1519
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 3: like I know how we gotta do it. And I

1520
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 3: started damn near like calming myself down because I get

1521
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 3: considered a radicck or like loose cannon. But when you

1522
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 3: get a championship and make it, it go into perspective.

1523
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: Like when I got to Sack, everybody was talking about

1524
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 3: the career was over. Imoney, Finn play hard and shit,

1525
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 3: I love Sagon, but they were trying to figure out

1526
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 3: in Sacramento wildlife this so much like.

1527
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: Gee, don't nobody bother me. They let me rock gee,

1528
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 2: Like the City Bugger was like they love it.

1529
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 3: It's real real, like I could just go who and

1530
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 3: the energy behind basketball is good enough.

1531
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be straight jo.

1532
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 3: Like when I got the Sack, I had that confidence

1533
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 3: telling people didn't expect me to But then it started

1534
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 3: junking ship. We stopped calling ourselves the Sacramento King. I

1535
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 3: started calling the Sacramento scores and it got crazy. We

1536
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: was on our way to the playoffs, but playing well,

1537
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 3: I got looked at by another team and Houston was

1538
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 3: like shuthing, come run, and it ain't really nothing. I

1539
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 3: gonna do about that. That's how that's how the shit goes.

1540
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: It's a been.

1541
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you like Houston philosophy of d'An TONI?

1542
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 3: And uh, you know what's crazy. I kind of went

1543
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 3: into Houston with a selfish mindset. That's up because I

1544
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 3: felt like then Tony old me for quitting, Like I

1545
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 3: felt like this was like the perfect time for dude

1546
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 3: to be like, yeah, man, push on back to point guard,

1547
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: like I wanted to let this man who like I

1548
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 3: had this man standing in the corner no more.

1549
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 2: And it was like you did the opposite.

1550
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 4: You feel like why.

1551
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: I had like this personal few that was.

1552
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 4: Terrible liked vibe.

1553
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was like, yeah, I was in sack killing.

1554
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, come, I'm getting into the post, getting into my

1555
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 3: bag and I come over here and I hit two

1556
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 3: jump shots that ain't threes, and y'all mad at me, bro,

1557
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,480
Speaker 3: like really.

1558
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 5: Mad at me.

1559
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 2: I like fake man, and I like laugh it off, man.

1560
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 3: Like come on, shup, like that's gotta be a three,

1561
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 3: Like god damn brother with it. I stepped on the

1562
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: line be cool like but it was like serious and

1563
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: it was like I wasn't ready with my mental wasn't ready,

1564
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1565
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: If I would have had a whole summer to.

1566
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 3: Get ready, maybe, but in the middle of the season,

1567
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, and I was always

1568
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 3: hopeful of being outside looking like damn, I hope I

1569
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 3: ain't like doing that chemistry like because even when the hit,

1570
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 3: it clicked again, Like once the playoffs hit, I'll forget

1571
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 3: about any selfish mentality that I had.

1572
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: I just go out there and play hard at fuck.

1573
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 3: But during the season it was hard to get jiggy

1574
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 3: because it was just like y'all come grabd me killing,

1575
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 3: Like what y'all come grabb me for me to do less?

1576
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: Why y'all wanted me to be less of me? Like

1577
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: that's weird, bro.

1578
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 3: It made me feel like y'all don't really make it

1579
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 3: like you want me to be a less version of

1580
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: the man shumperd to play.

1581
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: On you like the watch twenty five games and it

1582
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: was just like, why y'all even bring me here to

1583
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: to be here and did just to go.

1584
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 3: No more? So I had the mindset up I need

1585
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: to market my self for the rest of the league

1586
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 3: because I knew they were just the only reason they

1587
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: was like, well, we're gonna bring you bon Is because

1588
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 3: y'all had exception to the rule because Wilson Chandler had

1589
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 3: failed the test, So y'all had an exceptional thing. And

1590
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 3: it's like, of course I'm the best option on paper

1591
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 3: for an exceptional twenty five if I'm willing to do it,

1592
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Of course they got that

1593
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 3: dieded me that we may sign you. We got to

1594
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 3: make a decision. I don't think they did. I think

1595
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 3: they just had me for the time being, which was cool.

1596
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 3: I left there with a great relationship with their staff

1597
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 3: and you know, with their higher ups. Like I didn't

1598
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 3: feel disrespected. I kind of knew what it was, you

1599
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Yeah, they kept it real solid

1600
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 3: with me, like seump we don't know which in my mind,

1601
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 3: I feel like they did, but like they just was

1602
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 3: first class about everything. They gave me an opportunity, you

1603
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, And I was just grateful for

1604
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 3: it because I had I did come off of turning

1605
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 3: down going back to Houston because I didn't feel like

1606
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 3: I needed to work out to prove that I was

1607
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 3: in shape. I'm like going to a training camp to

1608
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 3: show y'all I'm in shape or I've improved. It just

1609
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 3: doesn't really float with me because no matter if I

1610
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 3: improved or not, y'all gonna stand me in the corner

1611
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: and I gotta make three.

1612
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: So what am I?

1613
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, Like, what audition is am

1614
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 3: I doing? Like I don't really know what to tell you.

1615
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 3: I'm part of y'all workouts and y'all, I don't feel

1616
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:32,879
Speaker 3: like going to a mini camp I can prove anything,

1617
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: Like if I end up on James sce, I just

1618
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 3: end up on James scene. You know what I'm saying,

1619
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 3: Like that's how I felt, and you know, I may

1620
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 3: have looked at it wrong, but that's why I didn't start.

1621
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: The season on time.

1622
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 3: And I think it threw people off because you know,

1623
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 3: when I don't hoop, I'm not one of them guys

1624
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 3: that because I didn't hoop, or I don't have a

1625
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 3: game today now I don't come outside, or I don't

1626
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 3: live my life, or I don't have I don't noah, bro,

1627
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 3: like if I'm not in the league, like every day

1628
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 3: I haven't been in the league.

1629
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 2: My wife knows im I gonna be up in the morning.

1630
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 2: He gonna work out.

1631
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: He's gonna probably have a second second workout where it's

1632
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 3: just shooting or conditioning depending on the time.

1633
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: But he's gonna have two workouts a day. She knows

1634
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: this already.

1635
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm gonna wake up

1636
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 3: workout so that I don't feel anxiety the whole day

1637
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 3: that I ain't get no work in.

1638
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna kick it. I'm gonna take Juni out.

1639
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 2: We're gonna hang out, We're gonna have a good time.

1640
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna rap because I've been rapping even while I

1641
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 3: was hooping, So why just because I don't have a

1642
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 3: job that give me more time to rap?

1643
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 2: Stupid. Anytime you do something outside of your profession.

1644
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 3: People feel like when you were doing that, somebody is

1645
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 3: getting better than you and now we shouldn't pay you

1646
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: no more. I don't know why it's like that, but

1647
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: that's how people feel. And it's, like I said, it's

1648
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 3: real to them. So if I go a month and

1649
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 3: I don't post basketball, people think I haven't touched the

1650
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 3: ball in a month. It's gary is hell because I'm like,

1651
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 3: y'all don't know why y'all think I need to prove

1652
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 3: to y'all that I like the who that's weird, but

1653
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 3: I totally understand perception is everything, and I feel like

1654
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 3: that possibly hurt me that I don't kick it how

1655
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 3: everybody kicks it. If I feel like I've done my

1656
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 3: work and I'm confident in going to play for a

1657
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: basketball club, then I feel.

1658
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: Like, like we say, like a Butler right nine in

1659
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: the finals, like how they was just dogging them, was like, oh,

1660
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: he's a bad teammate. He's in Minnesota because he's talking

1661
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:37,520
Speaker 1: and he's just real open with his teammates and with everybody.

1662
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,919
Speaker 1: And then he go to Phoenix, I mean the affiliate,

1663
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: and it's the same thing. And then he gets to

1664
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: Miami where they embraced the dog in him, like you

1665
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: relate to a type of a person like that, like

1666
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: you feel where he coming from, where you get that

1667
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: bad rep and that bad rep, and he finally got

1668
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 1: put in a position where it's hard to say, Jimmy

1669
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: Butler is a bad teammate.

1670
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. Jimmy told me to act like

1671
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 3: that coming out. So me and Jimmy worked out together

1672
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 3: in Sarasota, Florida at IMG to prepare for the draft,

1673
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 3: and Jimmy had a.

1674
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 2: Lot of this same fuck you in his heart. I

1675
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: never had, like I said, I had my dad there.

1676
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 2: I never wanted to seem uncoachable.

1677
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 3: I always wanted to be like I cared about certain

1678
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 3: shit that he didn't care about.

1679
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,560
Speaker 2: He's just I want to be great. I want to

1680
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 2: be a champion, you know what I'm saying.

1681
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 3: But he his lifestyle and how he grew up, it

1682
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 3: fits that fuck you mentality.

1683
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 2: That's just what it was.

1684
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 3: My lifestyle wasn't like that, So my wires wasn't like that,

1685
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1686
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 2: I took challenges.

1687
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 3: My dad would have to challenge me that shit for

1688
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 3: it to become that, you know what I'm saying.

1689
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: So with Jimmy, it's like to see this, like his

1690
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 2: resilience and like his.

1691
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 3: Ability to get everybody to play in that same blue

1692
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 3: collar way, you know what I'm saying, Like him telling

1693
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,879
Speaker 3: everybody wanted to leave, and him dealing with all that pressure.

1694
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 3: It's cool to him because like I said, he got

1695
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 3: them two wires that don't touch. Y'all don't get it,

1696
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 3: but cool. My whole life, y'all didn't help me. Y'all

1697
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 3: wasn't shit. I wasn't supposed to be shipped. I'm not

1698
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:22,959
Speaker 3: supposed to be here nowhere.

1699
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 4: Everything you're supposed to.

1700
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 3: I'm not even supposed to be here technically, So I

1701
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 3: do is a plus and he walks that every day.

1702
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: But he also walks I.

1703
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 3: Was here at four am working on this, and I

1704
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 3: bet my money on it. His confidence is I bet

1705
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 3: my money on it. You was still sleep and I

1706
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,759
Speaker 3: bet my money you didn't finish the last three reps

1707
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 3: because you saw they ain't have no cameras and your

1708
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: weight instructor probably turn their head. So you ain't finished

1709
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 3: your last three reps. But I did an extra three

1710
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 3: because he ain't see the three that I did. I realized,

1711
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 3: like that's his meality and that's where he rests his confidence.

1712
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: So him still in the game go surprising the other people.

1713
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 3: I know Jimmy and when he's capable of I knew

1714
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 3: his heart the whole time when he said he wanted

1715
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 3: to win. I know the type of player it takes

1716
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 3: to play with Jimmy Butler. That's why I respect that.

1717
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: But some people can't play with like a person like

1718
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: that that's so outspoken and just gonna speak the truth.

1719
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 2: Gotta love that, But I think it's a control thing though.

1720
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 3: If you got too many guys like that, how do

1721
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 3: you run a ball club if everybody's Jimmy Butler, How

1722
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 3: the fuck do you control that?

1723
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 5: Here?

1724
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 2: You can't do that, So it's good. He's a rare commodity.

1725
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 5: All right, Look, no, this is what I won't know.

1726
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 5: This is my question. I like to answer, like you

1727
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 5: from the crib, like me, but like.

1728
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 6: When you got that bad what you when it did?

1729
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 6: When you look back, like, yeah, I did that.

1730
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 3: I moved from white planes to the city.

1731
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: Your crib on thirty first and nine oh turned.

1732
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:09,879
Speaker 5: Up, took the plunge. That boy took the plunge.

1733
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 2: I was not.

1734
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 5: D man.

1735
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 7: You don't understand the significance in this move.

1736
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 5: This move.

1737
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 6: Listen, listen, this changes everything. This change this changes things

1738
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 6: like this. This this takes you from sitting home one

1739
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 6: night and you're getting the.

1740
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: Last I said the twenty five minutes.

1741
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,799
Speaker 6: I'm not about to do it. He moved to thirty

1742
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 6: seventh at night. Anything is possible any time you are

1743
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 6: right there. Hey, look that.

1744
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 5: Took all that.

1745
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 6: The equation, bro, you like it, don't take you say

1746
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 6: the right thing quick.

1747
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 2: Show face, get done when I need to get done,

1748
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 2: I'm about it, Like that's just yeah.

1749
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 3: I think that the first time I really spent my money,

1750
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 3: it was on my crib.

1751
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 2: But what I was paying like eight nine a month tweeting.

1752
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 6: Hey, look though you're speaking of you talking about you

1753
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 6: had to have a nice crib, right, like you something

1754
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 6: like a superhero dog like not one, but you done

1755
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 6: delivered both your child's at the crib, but like, please,

1756
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 6: please please, Like how I was there for all of

1757
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 6: my kids' birth and I'm sitting there and I was

1758
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 6: not cool.

1759
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 5: I'm shaking up.

1760
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 6: While all of the professionals are here in place doing

1761
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 6: what they're supposed to do. My man is by himself

1762
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 6: delivering looking on like on TV.

1763
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: Think about it from outside looking in.

1764
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's scary, but you know, like you know all things,

1765
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna be scared all the way till they go down.

1766
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: And then your survival instinct just kick in.

1767
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 5: Like I was like, what the.

1768
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 3: Baby, I'm like zitting, I'm grapping overnight bag, I'm grab everything.

1769
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: She's like, we're gonna have that be here.

1770
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 3: I'm like and then when she laid down, she's like,

1771
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 3: comeing in just help me, just help me. And I

1772
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 3: was and then I was just like, all right, breathe,

1773
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 3: all right, push and she put I saw that, I

1774
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 3: feel the head. Next thing you know, Junior Hill was

1775
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 3: out and she pushed again and Junie was in my arms.

1776
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 3: The second time, Rufe, same thing happened, but we was

1777
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 3: in the tub this time trying to super we playing it.

1778
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 3: We were just like, if it happens, we know what

1779
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 3: to do. We had ship set up just in case,

1780
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: so I was timing the contractions.

1781
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: But end of the time and them I got about

1782
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: the bed knowing it's You.

1783
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: Can tell your babies that, like me and your mama

1784
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 1: deliver a job. We ain't do all the doc shit.

1785
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: Me and your mama we did this. That's dope stuff

1786
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: to tell your kids. Man, when they get older.

1787
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 5: You're a realized superhero. So tell me this. Brother.

1788
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 6: Your first joint you came out with the I remember it.

1789
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 6: It was that you did the knickt tape anthem over

1790
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 6: the click beat. Right now you fast forward, you know

1791
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. You didnet came all the way to

1792
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 6: the point where you got a whole album.

1793
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 2: You got a gangster grills joint.

1794
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 6: Bro, but you gotta you know what I'm saying, Like

1795
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 6: we grew up, well, I grew up, but like from

1796
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 6: a long time ago when you probably kind of when

1797
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 6: you was growing up. I can't say I grew up

1798
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 6: on I was already grown kind of, but you grew

1799
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 6: up on DJ draw Man, gangst the Grills. How that

1800
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 6: feel for you to come? You know what I'm saying?

1801
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 6: Full circle after all this and now like I'm really

1802
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 6: like you said, I wrapped, Like you know what I'm saying,

1803
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 6: Like if I ain't whop, I ain't doing this. I

1804
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 6: wrapped like feel you already got your second act cracky.

1805
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 2: It's something about lying that would make you be uncomfortent.

1806
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,560
Speaker 3: There's never been an honest basketball player around it.

1807
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not trying to be the best one.

1808
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be the one that actually make songs

1809
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 3: that people listen to. I don't want to be Iman

1810
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 3: is the best NBA rapper. You realize how whacked that

1811
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 3: title wis. To be the best NBA that is the world.

1812
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 2: I don't want it.

1813
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 4: Bro.

1814
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 3: What I've been telling Mars, I'm always gonna feel like

1815
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 3: I'm the best one doing this out this lineup one two,

1816
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 3: I'm one of the best ones doing it when they

1817
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 3: other lineup show up, when these real rapping dudes show up,

1818
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 3: Like I could do voice of inflections, I can make

1819
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 3: party songs. I could talk that cash shit. Y'all want

1820
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 3: to talk. You know, we just got a digital Admex

1821
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 3: card these days. That's joker because we hoop.

1822
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:38,759
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1823
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 3: But if y'all want to talk cash bro, like, I

1824
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 3: can do all of that. I could talk it from

1825
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 3: blood how I need to talk it. But for so

1826
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 3: long I'm suppressing that to try and upper echelon myself

1827
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 3: when the basic concept of music is to not detach

1828
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 3: yourself and make yourself sit on the throne, but it's

1829
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 3: to detach yourself from that spotlight and make everybody I

1830
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 3: feel like you their best friend. He that down to earth.

1831
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah we're gonna hold him up on a pedestal, but

1832
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 3: he knocks himself down in his music so that we

1833
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 3: all could bop together. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1834
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 3: that's what I'm trying to get you. When I got

1835
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 3: a song that's playing in the NBA arena and a

1836
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 3: bunch of kids loved the song, and then all the

1837
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 3: athletes got to ask who's on that, and they be like,

1838
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 3: that's the man that's today.

1839
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 2: I'll know I made the right song.

1840
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 5: Yo. Man, that's been a rap man.

1841
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 6: We got my father in there, my player partner from

1842
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 6: my West World champ Chump, got Juju on the beat.

1843
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 5: Now y'all check it out.

1844
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 6: We appreciate you Sump coming to us live from the

1845
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 6: n I y yo Uncle Love.

1846
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all have real talk. Beasta on Knucklehead. That's

1847
01:25:49,880 --> 01:26:22,920
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