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Speaker 2: I think you'll like the pod tonight because I think

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Speaker 2: middle cooff and I dig really deep on the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: But I thought the Rams Lions game, I felt it

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Speaker 2: was going to be a very, very close game. I

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Speaker 2: had the Rams winning by I think one really elevated

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Speaker 2: quarterback play. First of all, Matt Stafford's insane. Puka nakoua

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Speaker 2: for a rookie is insane. I mean you are watching

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Speaker 2: Matt Stafford is making throws out there that maybe only

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Speaker 2: mahomes can do. This is a rebuilding year for Sean

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Speaker 2: mcvah and the Rams and Stafford playing with guts, his

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Speaker 2: hands all ripped up. What an athlete that guy is.

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Speaker 2: It's just, you know, the difference in the game was

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Speaker 2: pretty simple. The Lions had three long drives and got

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Speaker 2: touchdowns out of him, and in the second half. It

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Speaker 2: was the Rams having long drives and just getting field

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Speaker 2: I thought Detroit, you know, Rams pretty poor tackling first half,

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Speaker 2: and you know the lines physical upfront, O line punishing

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Speaker 2: running backs hard to tackle, kind of pushed the Rams around.

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Speaker 2: They made adjustments at half, which Sean McVay is prone

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Speaker 2: to do, and they slowed Golf down. Golf was just

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Speaker 2: too comfortable in the first half. And when Jared Goff

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Speaker 2: is comfortable, you know, he's just a really, really good quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I've seen Jared Goff comfortable, Jared Goff outdual Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: on a Monday night football game. He throws a beautiful football,

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Speaker 2: but if you pressure him, he's not the same quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So he didn't face any pressure in the first half.

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Speaker 2: Long seventy five yard drive after seventy five yard drive,

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Speaker 2: and you're getting you're getting touchdowns. In the second half,

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Speaker 2: they got some pressure on him, he was less effective

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Speaker 2: and Stafford put on a clinic. I mean it was

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Speaker 2: to too. It was uh pooka Cooper cup. It didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Everything worked. It was beautiful to watch. I just thought

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Speaker 2: you watched a really good football game. And if you

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Speaker 2: go look at this weekend, here's what we saw this weekend.

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Speaker 3: C J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud elevated quarterback play, Stafford Golf elevated quarterback play. Mahomes

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Speaker 2: elevated quarterback play in terrible weather. That's the sport. Tua

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Speaker 2: disappointing Flacco too many picks. I mean, Stafford played like

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Speaker 2: a winning quarterback. But you know, the Lions got the

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Speaker 2: The thing about all these games is the league is

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Speaker 2: different in the postseason, right It's more intense, and players

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Speaker 2: will tell you that every time I talk to a player,

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Speaker 2: it's it's much more intense than the playoffs. But it

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Speaker 2: really does come down regular season in postseason, do you

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Speaker 2: trust your coach and do you trust your quarterback? And

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Speaker 2: I thought the Lions rams that is about as good

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Speaker 2: a playoff game as you're going to get to culture

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Speaker 2: as head head coaches, and Stafford and Golf are, especially

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Speaker 2: when they have time, are really really elite throwers of

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Speaker 2: And I'm very happy. My wife's from Michigan, so I'm

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Speaker 2: very happy for Detroit I think that the architect of

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Speaker 2: this Lion's renaissance is not Dan Campbell always been effective,

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Speaker 2: and it's not Jared goff although I like him. I

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Speaker 2: think it's Brad Holmes, the executive upstairs they got from

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Speaker 2: the Rams. I think they've had back to back to

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Speaker 2: They have done just a remarkable job of fixing that

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Speaker 2: offensive line via the draft, upgrading tight end, wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: pass rushers. Detroit's got this convergence of excellent GM, really

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Speaker 2: strong quarterback play, a culture setting head coach, and you

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Speaker 2: jam it all together. Listen, Defensively, they can give up

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Speaker 2: some big plays. They're not great on the back end.

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Speaker 2: But we have a salary cap era and you're paying

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Speaker 2: perfect roster. You know, you're not gonna have the Niners.

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Speaker 2: When you're paying Brock pretty nothing, you can retain all

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Speaker 2: your stars. You know, Detroit's gonna pay Jared goffin, So

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Speaker 2: when you're paying him, and his contract's up after next year,

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Speaker 2: so it's gonna get bigger. If you retain him. So

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Speaker 2: there's just gonna be some limitations to a team when

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Speaker 2: you pay your quarterback a lot. The Rams they pay Stafford.

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Speaker 2: That defense on the back end is okay, right, And

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Speaker 2: so Kansas City they pay Mahomes. Now they're receiving core

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Speaker 2: for the Chiefs, Rice Travis Kelcey and a bunch of guys.

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Speaker 2: So San Francisco is a really stacked roster in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: But I think the Lions match up pretty well with it.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: I think the offensive line for Detroit matches up pretty

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Speaker 2: well with everybody. And you know, we've talked about this before.

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Speaker 2: Even Mahomes got hu million in the Super Bowl when

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Speaker 2: he didn't have his tackles. When the Lions are blocking

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Speaker 2: for Jared Goff and they have really twitchy, hard running, elusive,

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Speaker 2: tackle breaking running backs, if Laporte is healthy, you know,

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Speaker 2: Detroit's offense could be a Super Bowl winning offense. The

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Speaker 2: defense I worry about a little bit, but I still

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Speaker 2: don't think they have the greatest ownership in the league.

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Speaker 2: But so much of success in professional sports, so much

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Speaker 2: of it is upstairs, and you know, we just don't

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Speaker 2: pay attention to general managers. We don't pay attention to

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Speaker 2: scouting departments. But god, Detroit's done a good job via

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Speaker 2: the draft. They really done a good job. They you know,

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Speaker 2: they're not paying a lot of their best players. They're

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Speaker 2: not paying them anything yet, and they're like Pro Bowl

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Speaker 2: and I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think if you're the Rams, you have to pat

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Speaker 2: yourself in the back. I mean, you're limp and pookas

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Speaker 2: banged up. Kyron Williams is banged up. I don't think

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Speaker 2: getting triple team. They have to go get an edge

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Speaker 2: rusher and free agency, got a few holes to fill,

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Speaker 2: but a really good job of the Rams to go

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Speaker 2: on the road a very formidable opponent and took him

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Speaker 2: to the very edge. And I think this is this

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Speaker 2: feels like a special year for Detroit and I couldn't

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Speaker 2: be happier for him. Jared Goff was blamed for everything

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, and you know, people, and I think

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Speaker 2: everybody in LA because Stafford comes out they won a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. It's easy to dump on Jared. Jared's are

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Speaker 2: really effective. He's Matt Ryan with a better arm. He

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Speaker 2: throws a beautiful football. He's a good kid. He was

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Speaker 2: a number one pick for a reason, and he's a

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Speaker 2: little bit of an underdog now, which is hard to

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Speaker 2: be as a number one pick. I guess Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 2: is a little bit of an underdog, is a number

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Speaker 2: former number one pick. Goff has sort of an underdog

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Speaker 2: feel to him. So it's perfect, right, Like it's perfect

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Speaker 2: for Detroit. Dan Campbell had a job and you know,

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff. Rams got rid of him, and you know,

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Speaker 2: the Lions history, that's a really powerful force when everybody's

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Speaker 2: got a little chip on their shoulder and doesn't quite

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Speaker 3: Hard to root against Detroit, hard to root against him.

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Speaker 2: There was a call late in the game, no pass

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Speaker 2: you kick a field goal. I mean that that. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to spend a lot of time on it.

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Speaker 2: That was a miscall, But you know what, the Rams

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Speaker 2: have multiple opportunities and they settled for field goals. They

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Speaker 2: couldn't score in the red zone, so officials don't decide games.

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Speaker 2: There are infractions called and not called that can affect

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Speaker 2: second half and they just could not get into the

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Speaker 2: They got just a good enough pass rush on Matt

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, in a losing effort, I hope it's

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: That guy is fricking remarkably gifted. So Lions move on,

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Speaker 2: Packers move on, Chiefs move on, Texans move on. And

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Speaker 2: I like Philadelphia tomorrow, let's bring on John middlecoff.

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Speaker 2: a different conversation. Well, to get absolutely dominated by Green

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Speaker 2: Does Jerry have to I mean, Jerry's gonna pay Dak.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good job because I think

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Speaker 1: to develop and make a quarterback into a star. Right.

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Speaker 1: I mean Dak was already pretty good when he got there. Right,

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Speaker 1: to have to win both home games, right, because if

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Speaker 2: But again, I say, if Jerry believes Dak is it?

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Speaker 1: Could he believe that now, Colin, after what he just witnessed?

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Speaker 2: Again, I have been on this for years. Dak is

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Speaker 2: as it's really interesting, this job is fascinating. It's not

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Speaker 2: be impatient than delusional on quarterback evaluation. Sure like I'd

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with a little pressure. What I'm not fine

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Speaker 2: with is unrealistic expectations. Or forcing me to work with

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Speaker 2: people aren't as good as you think. Dak's just not

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Speaker 1: I understood some of the support before, even though I

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Speaker 1: if he's able to pivot, which he's proven as a

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Speaker 3: Well you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like, listen, the internet loves, I mean, this is what

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Speaker 2: The coach were disappointed with him. Have you ever seen

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Speaker 2: Jordan think about this, He's cheaper than Aaron Rodgers. He's

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Speaker 1: Now, well, I think that you become a legend in

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Speaker 1: with Aaron, Bill Walsh, we gotta pivot to Steve Young

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Speaker 2: good players. So, I mean Green Bay is just it,

430
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Speaker 2: and it's something we've hit on. Eleven of the fourteen

431
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Speaker 2: coaches in the playoffs are offensive coaches. Is now, you

432
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Speaker 2: can as a defensive coach work if you have a

433
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Speaker 2: star quarterback Sean McDermott, Demiko Ryans. You know it can

434
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Speaker 2: work that way. But there is no question when to

435
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Speaker 2: develop a young quarterback edge offensive coach, and if you

436
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Speaker 2: have a disruption at quarterback, you're on a third or

437
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: fourth Stefanski major advantage offensive coach. So you know, Mike

438
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Speaker 2: Tomlin got into the playoffs mostly because Joe Burrow got

439
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Speaker 2: hurt and Cleveland lost three quarterbacks. I think they'll be

440
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Speaker 2: extinguished very quickly.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think any real I mean, I talked to

443
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Speaker 2: a text to two gms today I'm on the phone

444
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 2: with during the game texting, and they're saying the same

445
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Speaker 2: thing is Jordan Love. Matt Lafleur deserves a lot of

446
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Speaker 2: credit for Jordan Love. And you know the edit thing

447
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: today that you noticed on that first drive when Aaron

448
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: Jones is running like that downhill, and that's you know,

449
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur when he came to Green Bay, it was

450
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Speaker 2: I want to develop a run game that McCarthy had

451
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Speaker 2: not developed a run game. I watched this Green Bay team.

452
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're gonna be the San Francisco or

453
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Speaker 2: a Rams. They're a lot to defend because Matt can

454
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Speaker 2: run it, Jordan can go off script. Nobody's got two

455
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: to three good corners. They this Green Bay offense, John

456
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Speaker 2: creates a lot of matchup issues.

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Speaker 1: One thing I wrote down immediately is the advantage at

458
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Speaker 1: the running back position in this game was evident early. Yeah,

459
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean the gap between Aaron Jones and

460
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Speaker 1: all the other guys they're running out. I mean, Paullard

461
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Speaker 1: is a gadget player, and there's nothing wrong with that

462
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Speaker 1: as long as you have a young Ezekiel Elliott in

463
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Speaker 1: his prime right. And to me, when you had the

464
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Speaker 1: running game like that and then all the explosive weapons,

465
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Speaker 1: that's why guys were wide open all day long. The

466
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys had no clue what to do. But don't

467
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Speaker 1: you think, you know, you talk a lot about and

468
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Speaker 1: everyone does about Belichick being a historian. Can you imagine

469
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Speaker 1: breaking the record as the Cowboys coach? I know the

470
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Speaker 1: Eastern seaboard, he's comfortable. Atlanta's close to his new house

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Speaker 1: and jup. But Jerry can offer a lot of money.

472
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Speaker 1: Obviously Arthur Blank can't too. But there's the Cowboy coach

473
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Speaker 1: Belichick little revenge after just getting forced out by Robert

474
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Speaker 1: which he was clearly fired, right. I think all signs

475
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: are gonna point to Built because you're the coach newsbreaker. Now.

476
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Speaker 1: A lot of people I know expect Harbad to be

477
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Speaker 1: with the Chargers. That's where a lot of people in

478
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Speaker 1: the league think he's gonna go. So Belichick people have

479
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Speaker 1: already been you know, they said that before the game

480
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: Philly too. But now the Cowboys have a chance to

481
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Speaker 1: have a head start because they can fire McCarthy first

482
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Speaker 1: thing Monday morning, have Belichick on the horn and get

483
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Speaker 1: the ball wrong here.

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Speaker 2: There is certain things create clarity in life. Getting your

485
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Speaker 2: ass kicked like that at home, for sure, it allows

486
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Speaker 2: Jerry to go, wow, I can clean house, and it

487
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Speaker 2: really does it. Also, Jerry has to look himself in

488
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Speaker 2: the mirror and sit down with Steven tonight at the

489
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Speaker 2: house at the ranch, and they have to sit down

490
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Speaker 2: and go, we got to do a clean.

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Speaker 1: Break here of everybody.

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Speaker 2: Dan Mike, I don't know what they'll do with Dak

493
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Speaker 2: he may defend Dak, but I can see this being

494
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Speaker 2: actually beneficial to Dallas that Jerry Jones has to sit down,

495
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: his scouts have to come to him and say, Jerry,

496
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Speaker 2: we can have Dak, but you can't ban forty five

497
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: to fifty million. He's already made twenty million a year

498
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Speaker 2: in endorsements being the cowboy quarterback. We've got to start

499
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Speaker 2: drafting quarterbacks here. And it also would it make Jerry.

500
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Speaker 2: I mean again, when you're a billionaire, can't relate. Obviously,

501
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Speaker 2: would Jerry acknowledge our ways not working like my way's

502
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Speaker 2: not working and give up some control.

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Speaker 1: I think it's easier after today, Like you said, I

504
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: maybe they lose an overtime, Maybe you can justify it

505
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: in your head, run it back, give him one more shot,

506
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Speaker 1: but get embarrassed like that. Have a game be over

507
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: at halftime. You know, this was obviously the number one

508
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Speaker 1: pick in the in the wildcard round, right in terms

509
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: of brands and television networks. I don't see how he's survived.

510
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't see how he's not out by the morning.

511
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: To me, it's clearly over. And you have the opportunity,

512
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Speaker 1: right sometimes like getting the number one draft pick, isn't ideal,

513
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: because there's not if you need a quarterback. If it's

514
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: not a great quarterback draft, there's an incredible head coaching

515
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: opportunity with all these guys that have proven to be winners.

516
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Speaker 1: And I do think the Belichick thing a little bit,

517
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: like you know, almost a couple decades now with Bill Parcells,

518
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: would just reinvigorate the fan base because they're gonna be

519
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: down and there's gonna be a lot of negativity, and

520
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: it's rightly deserved because the last three years they've been

521
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Speaker 1: knocked out by Kyle Twiss and now Lafloor. So how

522
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: are you beating those guys? And we know your guy's

523
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: not as good as Sean McVay either. So it's like

524
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Speaker 1: you got to deal with those in the AFC, you

525
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Speaker 1: got to deal with the quarterbacks in the NFC, You

526
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Speaker 1: got to deal with the star offensive coaches. All that

527
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Speaker 1: came from Washington in twenty twelve.

528
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Speaker 2: Listen to this, John coaches that had to move off

529
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Speaker 2: town and quarterbacks, John Harbaugh, Flacco, he moved often for Lamar,

530
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Speaker 2: been pretty beneficial, Andy Reid, Alex Smith was a Pro bowler, McVeigh, Goff,

531
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Speaker 2: Shanahan Garoppolo watched multiple coaches, and these guys were getting

532
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Speaker 2: to Super Bowls. I mean, Flacco six years removed from

533
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: that can still sling it. And those coaches took big swings.

534
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: They moved off popular playoff winning or super Bowl appearing

535
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks for a Lamar for a Mahomes, for a Stafford,

536
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: for a brock Purty, whoever it is, there is a

537
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: recent history. Go back to Lamar Is when you take

538
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: that big swing and go listen, we're just kind of stuck.

539
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Speaker 2: I may have a slightly deteriorating product or a product

540
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Speaker 2: with a ceiling. The teams that go for it, I mean, hey, Philadelphia,

541
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Speaker 2: Carson Wentz, they moved off him. Jalen Hurts, I mean

542
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: once that year he got hurt. He was leading in

543
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: the MVP voting many So I mean there's and I think,

544
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: by the way, Miami's gonna have this discussion. Yeah, I

545
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: think Miami and Dallas have to go. You gotta get

546
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: over Pro Bowls really quickly. Those are bullshit awards that

547
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: nobody buys into.

548
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Speaker 1: I think a big thing too for Jerry Is. And

549
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: this happen into Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll got fired in

550
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: my opinion because they started looking around and going, he

551
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: has no chance to beat McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan. Kyle

552
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: beat him five straight times. McVeigh swept him this year.

553
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Speaker 1: It wasn't even the macro to me, it was the micro.

554
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: We're getting lapped in our own division. So to me,

555
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: if you're Jerry, you go, well, I've known Adam Peters

556
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Speaker 1: for fifteen years. I mean, look at his resume for

557
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: a non GM it's pretty incredible. One super Bowls, multiple

558
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: places now, helped John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan build that thing.

559
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: I think Washington's gonna be well run, even the owner

560
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: has proven to be a good NBA owner. Yeah, obviously

561
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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles will not hesitate to pull the trigger

562
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: if they have to pivot, right, So you have an

563
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: owner that you know has doesn't I don't exactly know

564
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: the wealth between Luriy and but he has enough money

565
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: to do whatever he wants as well, and he will

566
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Speaker 1: be aggressive. So to me, that has to inspire Jerry.

567
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: Knowing they play tomorrow night, even if they win and

568
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: then get knocked out next week, like, the Eagles have

569
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: no problem pivoting. So I think when you just look

570
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Speaker 1: at the short term view of your division. You go,

571
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: we got to figure this out. And you also know

572
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: that Arthur Blank some of these other big money guys

573
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: are sniffing around the top coaches. Why not rip the

574
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: band aid off. We already had a lot of question

575
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: marks with McCarthy sometimes throughout the year. This is an

576
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: ald timer. You just don't survive. They were seven and

577
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: a half point favorite, and it was true. It was

578
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: the right move. I mean, they should have been a

579
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: heavy favorite coming into this game and to get beaten down,

580
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, but that feels

581
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Speaker 1: like one of the more glaring games I remember watching

582
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Speaker 1: in a long time. In the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, I wrote it down.

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00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: Opening drive run pass effectively, look too easy. Couple dumb

585
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: Dallas penalties, then pick gyre Alexander uh oh, Dallas in trouble.

586
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: That's first quarter, second quarter stuff like that's it felt like,

587
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: Oh we got we got big Brion. Dallas had two

588
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: or three silly penalties early. You're like one in a punt.

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00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: There's always been a problem for them.

590
00:29:53,840 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, it's it's everything changes, you know,

591
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Speaker 2: It's just one of those things. I thought McCarthy was

592
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Speaker 2: in the clear if he beat Green Bay, even if

593
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: he lost twenty eight twenty seven on bad officiating. It

594
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: was a Detroit Dallas ending fiasco. When you're not prepared

595
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: to play on either side. I mean, it's I'm trying

596
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: to think of a but you know.

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Speaker 1: What, it had Brandon Staley vibes today. I mean, their

598
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: defense no clue what was going on. They were talking

599
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: to CD Lamb early in the game. Hey, what what's

600
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: going on? By the way, it was red flags everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a great point. I wrote that down in

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00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: my notes too. Dak cd off, Kevin Burkhart mentioned that.

603
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Greg Olsen mentioned that, So there was something really weird

604
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Speaker 2: about that. And my takeaway was it was CD was

605
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: frustrated appropriately with Dak's ball placement, which by the way,

606
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: was terrible early in this game, threw behind him on

607
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Speaker 2: a corner route. So I think it was CD wasted

608
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: with just basically Dack's ball placement.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's another thing with Dak Prescott. When you look

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Speaker 1: at the two quarterbacks right there. Jordan Love, who actually

611
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: has been really accurate lately, can't afford to be a

612
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: little inaccurate because he has such an explosive arm, and

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00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: now with their wide receivers can make big plays. When

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Speaker 1: you're Dak Prescott in that group of you know, I

615
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: would say Cousins has been there for a long time,

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Manning, and you don't have a

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Speaker 1: huge arm. Accuracy is what you have to hang your

618
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: hat on. You have to be the most accurate guy

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Speaker 1: on the field. So when you become like, how did

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith resurrect his career? It wasn't throwing bombs. It

621
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Speaker 1: was having seventy percent completion percentage. Well, Dak's slinging around

622
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Speaker 1: like he's Jamis Winston, balls flying all over the place.

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Speaker 1: You're like, you can't function. Even if their defense had

624
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: played well today, they would have lost with that type

625
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: performance out of the quarterback. And the other thing is,

626
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Speaker 1: you cannot turn the ball over in the biggest games, right,

627
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: You cannot pick six is kill you. And Dak just

628
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: now remember last year at the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna spend some time in March, in May and

630
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: April and go over all the picks. And what ended

631
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: up being some of his downfall again throwing the ball

632
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: to the other team It happened early in the season

633
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Speaker 1: in the big hyped up game against the forty nine

634
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: ers turnovers, and it was ultimately their undoing again in

635
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: this game. And I just I can't get over Lafloor gudakins.

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Speaker 1: The Packers what a muscle flex as an organization, they

637
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 1: feel like the Miami Heat or something right now. It's

638
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: incredible how they pivoted.

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Speaker 3: All right, I want to talk ten minutes. I want

640
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: to give Miami.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City some discussion on this. Tua has proven in

642
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Speaker 2: warm weather, with time to throw, he's a highly accurate thrower.

643
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: But he has also proven that he's not very athletic.

644
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: He's smaller than you'd like, he has an injury history,

645
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: and unless the weather conditions are fairly ideal, he's limited.

646
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: So unlike Dak, he is accurate, his ballplacement's excellent. That's

647
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: not the case with Dak. He is a pretty thrower.

648
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: He's a little bit of Drew Brees. So I don't

649
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: think you move off him now, but I think it

650
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: does limit your extension ideas. So we know Kansas City's better.

651
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: Most of us thought they'd win. I thought I thought

652
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: it was a shockingly bad effort. By Miami in the

653
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: second half. Obviously, the Cowboy loss was surprising, but Miami's

654
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: offensive effort in the second half was really dubious. I mean,

655
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: they were doing bubble screens late. They didn't want two

656
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: or a throw, So that tells you the staff is

657
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: worried about protecting him. The staff is worried about his

658
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: physical viability and games like that. What do you do

659
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: with Tua? You're a former NFL scout, you have sources

660
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: throughout the league. What do you do with them going forward?

661
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: I think they're in the worst spot you can be

662
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: in football because they're all most stuck. But I almost

663
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: think you have to pivot because this was his fourth year.

664
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Speaker 1: So all the guys in his draft class, Herbert Burrow

665
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 1: were paid after their third year. Right, because after your

666
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: fourth year you get the fifth year option, which for

667
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks is essentially a franchise tag one point zero and

668
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: then the real one comes. It's all guaranteed on the cap.

669
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Speaker 1: So ideally you want to extend the guy, but there aren't.

670
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Speaker 1: You know, this isn't the NBA. You don't give out

671
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: a mid level exception to a quarterback, right, you either

672
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: pay him the premium, which is well over forty million

673
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: dollars a year and hundreds of millions of dollars, which

674
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Speaker 1: in what world in the AFC could you pay to

675
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Speaker 1: a let's even just say one hundred and fifty million

676
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed when the only way to compete in the

677
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: playoffs is go on the road against Mahomes who clearly

678
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: was in a different universe, Lamar Jackson who plays in

679
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: fridgid conditions, Joe Burrow, who, while he doesn't have the

680
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: big arm, has proven he excels in the cold Ohio kid,

681
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen, who's been kicking your ass thrives in

682
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: the cold. Like that's who you have to go through

683
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: in that conference in cold conditions. And if Denver ever

684
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: figures out also a cold place, So unless you're the

685
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Speaker 1: number one seed, which they're not even remotely close to be.

686
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: Like to me, sixteen to seven at halftime, that was

687
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: not a normal sixteen to seven, like in a dolt,

688
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: because it was so cold it was gonna be hard

689
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Speaker 1: to sa That score might as well have been twenty

690
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: eight to three. To me, the game was over at halftime.

691
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: They threw one lollipop touchdown that Tyreek Hill had to

692
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: come back toward and then ran around three guys. They

693
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: didn't do anything else. So like listen, he's a solid player.

694
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Speaker 1: And if he plays in a dome or in Miami,

695
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: but that's not the AFC, because the AFC Playoffs is

696
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: at Buffalo, is at Kansas City. I mean, this is

697
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Speaker 1: Buffalo is like an avalanche right now, Kansas City. There's

698
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Speaker 1: the coldest game one of them in NFL history. And

699
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes do you know what made him so remarkable?

700
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know what his box score was. He

701
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: just played completely normal, like they were throwing that on

702
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: my field. He just like played a normal Patrick Mahomes

703
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: game with Tua. He can't even function in that, which

704
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Speaker 1: I understand. You've lived in the Northeast. I've lived in

705
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: the Northeast. It's really cold and when you're not used

706
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Speaker 1: to it, it really throws you off. And they say

707
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: it takes like three months to get acclimated. There's no

708
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: way you get acclimated in twenty four hours. And he physically,

709
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: when you have a weak arm, like it from a

710
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: scouting perspective, it's very hard to pierce through the wind

711
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: and the cold slows down the ball, so Mahomes and Allen.

712
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: The reason these guys can thrive. It look at Peyton

713
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: Manning back in his heyday. He struggled on the road

714
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Speaker 1: in cold weather conditions, and he's remarkably better a couple

715
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Speaker 1: of years into his career than to us. So I

716
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Speaker 1: couldn't pay him. I couldn't do it, but I think

717
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: we know how this. They'll just played on the fifth

718
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: year option. If you extend him, you're basically just acknowledging

719
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: we'll try to compete to win ten plus games and

720
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: then losing the playoffs. You're not going to win the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

722
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: Ethan Strauss was talking about this on a podcast where

723
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: he said, if you're somebody that struggles in cold weather,

724
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Speaker 2: you want to be in the NFC, But in the

725
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: AFC it's I mean even in your own division. Just

726
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: think about December January games Buffalo, New England, New York, Baltimore, Cincinnatiitsburgh, Cleveland.

727
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: I mean it's like and you know, and then again

728
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: Denver in Kansas City. So it's just one of those

729
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: things where again, if you played in the SEC, you're

730
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: hidden for or the PAC twelve, you're.

731
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Speaker 1: You know thrived. You know he's from Hawaii, went to

732
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Speaker 1: Alabama and he's now in Miami. He's lived an incredible

733
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: warm climate life. And Ethan was right. San Francisco number

734
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Speaker 1: one seed, what's the game gonna be there next year?

735
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: Next week? Sixty two degrees, Dallas number two seed, Dome,

736
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Speaker 1: Detroit Dome, Tampa, warm weather place. Philly is one place

737
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: where it get kind of cold, but it's not that cold.

738
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Speaker 1: I mean Kansas City. That's stretching the Midwest to me.

739
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Chicago is Green Bay is as cold as

740
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Speaker 1: it gets. And that's why I feel pretty good. If

741
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: I was green Back, I got another strong armed quarterback.

742
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to play in that fridge condition.

743
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Speaker 1: If we ever get a home games moved.

744
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: By the way, let's touch on Kansas City. So Brett

745
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: Veach is one of the sharper gms in the league.

746
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: Andy Reid.

747
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: I think there's a functionality and an intelligence from the

748
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: Hunt family. Beach, Andy Mahomes. They have a really good

749
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: scouting department. Obviously you can see what their late round

750
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: picks is. I think they're a great example like Green Bay.

751
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: Hey we got a flaw. We're not good at receiver.

752
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: Let's just develop it. So Rashi Rice feels like to me, now,

753
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: he's not a top five one, but he's a number

754
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: one receiver, Thick Good after the cash, not a high

755
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: end one, not even a CD Lamb yet, but he's

756
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: a low end one. Travis Kelcey, and then they have

757
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of threes. They don't really have a two's

758
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: it's Watson, it's it's you know, it's guys that you

759
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't trust as a two, but their threes, so they

760
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: have a whole. They're just not great at wide receiver.

761
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 2: But as I watched them yesterday and their run game,

762
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: as they pivot to the second stage of their dynasty,

763
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: they're going to be more run centric and they're going

764
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: to be more defensive centric, at least for another draft.

765
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Speaker 2: I think there's three teams right now in the AFC, Buffalo, Baltimore,

766
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: and Kansas City. They feel like they're they're a bit

767
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: above the freight. Agree and my takeaway is I think

768
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo right now and Baltimore are better. But boy, there

769
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: is something to be said about have the bag have

770
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: the ring? Do you give Kansas City an outside shot

771
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: to win the AFC or do you feel like it's

772
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: just that receiving weakness. They can't play quite from behind.

773
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't give them an outside shot. I give them

774
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: a real shot because the playoffs is not It doesn't

775
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: usually look like Green Bay in Dallas, right, It's usually

776
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: a pretty ugly game, especially in that conference, like we

777
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: talked about, because the weather is such a factor. It's

778
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: like a different sport. That game in Kansas City has

779
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: nothing in common in what we just witnessed in a

780
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: controlled environment in Dallas. Nothing. I mean it's negative five degrees.

781
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: They know how to win. I mean they have, you know,

782
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: championship metal, championship culture. Obviously, they have championship quarterback and coach,

783
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: the two most important guys in the building. All their

784
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: defensive guys, the young ones were part of the team

785
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: last year. Offensively, Pachaco Kelsey played huge roles last year.

786
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: So now you just got to integrate the young player

787
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: who shined last night, and they're used to playing in

788
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: the weather. So next week in Buffalo, assuming Buffalo wins,

789
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: which I think we all do, probably freezing cold. Well,

790
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: who is not going to be faced by that? He

791
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: saw two a walking into the game last night. It

792
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: looked like he was going to on an Aspen vacation.

793
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Mahome showed up in a windbreaker, right, they're just Mahomes

794
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: wasn't wearing sleeves. I know he's lived there for how

795
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: long now six plus years. He's used to it. Andy's

796
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, the mustache is frozen. And he's been coaching

797
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: in these games for twenty five years. And before that

798
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: he was in Green Bay with Farv and Holmgren. Yeah,

799
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: they're comfortable in that environment. It all gets back to

800
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: their competitive culture starting in training camp. They're still one

801
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: of the last teams that practices hard and that's where

802
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: it shows. And listen, we can nitpick and I know

803
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people do with Sean McDermott, but he's

804
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: a defensive tough guy. John harbaught defensive tough guy. The

805
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: one problem for Miami is their head coach is an

806
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: offensive guy. Now they added to Fangio. To me, it

807
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: was they had a lot of injuries, but like last night,

808
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: to me was a toughness clinic, because everyone in the

809
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: NFL is tough, right, just like any marine going to

810
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: the Navy Seals is going to be a tough guy.

811
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: But there's a reason most guys don't make it and

812
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: there's a big difference between when the toughest teams and

813
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: that next tier. And you saw it last night. It

814
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: wasn't I didn't even think the game was close, even

815
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: sixteen to seven. I'm like, Miami has no shot to

816
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: win this game.

817
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Miami's tackling was really poor.

818
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 1: They look cold, They look cold. And I'll never forget

819
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: when I got hired in Philly and it got to

820
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: like November and December on the sideline pregame. You have

821
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: so much respect for playing in these games. And that's

822
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking like twenty degrees where you can't feel your hands.

823
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: It's really cold once you get to those level temperatures.

824
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: Remember the Seattle Minnesota game years ago outside when Cam

825
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: Chanceller claimed he had frostbited on his foot, like two

826
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: weeks later. The level of mental toughness and focus on

827
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: top of the talent, it's really hard to focus. And

828
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: to me, you just saw a Kansas City like they

829
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: dropped a couple of big plays because they're wide receivers.

830
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: Maybe the win threw them off. They were open, you know,

831
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: and Mahomes the ball wasn't even that far off. That

832
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: game could have been honestly, like forty to seven couldn't have.

833
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: Been Yeah, I thought, I mean, I really was. I

834
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: felt like Dallas has lost today. A lot of it

835
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: was Jordan Love and they're just I'd said it on Friday.

836
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: I thought I took green Bay to cover. I said, listen, Dallas,

837
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: nobody has three good corners in the NFL. I just

838
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: think green Bay has too many good people. And so

839
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: some of that loss was Jordan Love looked like Aaron Rodgers.

840
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: Not that Miami quit. But I thought it was one

841
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: of the more discouraging efforts, like the team was literally

842
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: protecting to I mean, Mike McCarthy wasn't protecting DAK today

843
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: DAK is limited, but I thought that was one of

844
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: those where a flyback. I'm the owner and I'm like,

845
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: what do I have here?

846
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: You can you agree under no circumstances You've given that

847
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: two hundred twenty contract.

848
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always been I'm just listen. I have a theory.

849
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't matter what business it is. You

850
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: can pay big money, but you have to do it

851
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: infrequently and you really have to be sure it's right.

852
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: It's got to be really glue people or stars. And

853
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: I think I don't blame the defensive effort because they

854
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: were missing six starters, but that offensive effort in the

855
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: second half. If I'm an owner, I'm like, Oh, my

856
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: coach doesn't trust my quarterback. The hell I ain't gonna

857
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: pay him. I'm writ in the checks. There's no way

858
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: I'm paying him. So I think what you do if

859
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: you're in Miami, you don't cut to what you do

860
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: is you let him play out next year and you

861
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: just you draft another quarterback, maybe first, second, third. I

862
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 2: think they have a lot of pieces.

863
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: I really do.

864
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: I think they can score a lot of points. I

865
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: don't think they're a super Bowl team, but I don't

866
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of needs. The offensive line needs

867
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: some attention. They've got receivers, corners, they have edge rushers.

868
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: They just all got hurt. So I don't feel like,

869
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of feel like it's Denver. If

870
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 2: they could get the quarterback right, Miami gets a star quarterback,

871
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: you win a lot of games with those two offensive coaches.

872
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have definitely had the infrastructure with the coaches too,

873
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: because defensively they're def with Vic fangiol It's gonna get

874
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: better as they get better players. It was on full

875
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: display these first three games. Right, C. J. Stroud was

876
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: in a different world than Joe Flack, whose Disney movie

877
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: came to a crashing halt. Then and obviously Mahomes vers

878
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: Tua and then today Love Versetak. It really really matters,

879
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: you know, And it's why the forty nine ers can

880
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: manipulate it a little bit because their roster is so good.

881
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: It would have been hard for Brock Perdy in that

882
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: situation on the road in Kansas City, right when you

883
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: don't have a great arm. But what their team is

884
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: so good. So when your team's a little flawed and

885
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: your quarterback is not elite, you can get exposed really

886
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: quick if your team's a little off. And Cowboys the Browns,

887
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the Browns have had an incredible season, but

888
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: that was the Joe Flacco that we have seen the

889
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: last five or six years. And the moment you get

890
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: that type effort, you go home. All right.

891
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, you could join me later for the Lions Detroit,

892
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: but I don't want to get in away your Tito's night.

893
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna poor one right now and watch the Lion DRAMs.

894
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: I can't even how about how about your guy Jed

895
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: Fish taking the Washington job. Well, you nailed the Dubar story.

896
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: We got Adam Schefter here.

897
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that one. I was told Wednesday that he

898
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: wa was. People think he was the second, third, or

899
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: fourth choice. He wasn't because Sabin almost hired the OC

900
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: from Washington the previous year. So Saban had his eye

901
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: and Greg Byrne had their eye on Kaalen de Bor.

902
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: He was They called Sark on that. You know, it

903
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: was out of respect for Sark, but they knew Sark

904
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: wasn't coming Sark. Sark loves Texas. Austin's a better place

905
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: to live than Tuscaloosa. Sarks got it rolling. The boosters

906
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: love him, so perfunctory call. But Kaylin de Bor was

907
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: like their first legitimate guy, so this idea he was second.

908
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: I was told Wednesday, like they're going after Kaylen de

909
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: boor Jedfish was interesting. Lance Leopold at Kansas was they

910
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: were really interested. Apparently had I think a phoner or

911
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: a zoom and blew everybody socks off, but Jedfish and

912
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: Lance Leopold, and then it came down to Jed.

913
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: Jed.

914
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: Now, Jed will be able to assemble an offensive unit

915
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: very quickly. And that's a big part of it. Washington

916
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: has lost most of their offense transfer portal. They only

917
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: you know, they've got a decent nil collective, but not huge,

918
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: so Jed Fish can keep them afloat very quickly. I mean,

919
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 2: I would say the offense for Arizona is better today

920
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: than Washington, so he's gonna have to rebuild it. But Washington,

921
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 2: I think we both agree, is a better job. There's

922
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: more money in the athletic department.

923
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to the Big ten. I mean they's

924
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: gonna get three or four teams every year in the

925
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: twelve team playoff. The Big twelve is gonna get one. Yes,

926
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a one bit league. The other thing

927
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: is Jed the guys he has, you know, he was

928
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna have a top fifteen team coming back. Those guys

929
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: can transfer if they want to go join him, so

930
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: some of his talent can fall in there. To me,

931
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: how about Alabama. They tried to get Ryan Grubb last

932
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: year to be sabans OC. Now they get Ryan Grubb

933
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: and Do Born with saban retiring, So what a what

934
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: a coup for Alabama?

935
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: Now?

936
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: The cultural fit my theory has often been where you're

937
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: from really matters. Yeah, you know, Kirby, Jimbo Dabbo. Think

938
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: the guys that you know knicks from West Virginia, the

939
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: northeast guys, obviously the West coast guys, but there are outliers.

940
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: As someone in the league told me, winners win, and

941
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: Urban was a good example, he'll win no matter what.

942
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: And Duboor might be that and his resume would say

943
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna win no matter where he's coaching. Yeah, I

944
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: don't think I think he'll win. And he's not a

945
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: great recruiter, and so I think he feels like the

946
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: South and the brand Washington's hard to recruit to. There's

947
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: not a lot of players Oregon, Idaho, Washington, Montana, Alaska,

948
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: there's not There's maybe eight high end Division one players

949
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: and all those states combined. So I think the feeling

950
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: is Debora is like this brand sells. The state's got

951
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: thirty Division one players, the region has two hundred and

952
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: so and because Debraster loaded, so I think Debor looks

953
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: at this and thinks it's just an easier place to recruit.

954
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, with the nil transfer portal, recruiting

955
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: is now at paying the butt. It's more difficult than ever,

956
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: So Alabama is one of those four or five jobs.

957
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: Even bad USC and Texas teams usually have players. Oklahoma

958
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: always has, Ohio State always has players. All right, good stuff,

959
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: John As always money. Okay, see the volume