WEBVTT - "Game Night" w/ Taylor Ortega

0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Podcast starts. Now, what is up everyone around the globe?

0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.520
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Stradia Lab from New York City.

0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:27.080
<v Speaker 2>And I just want to say I was silencing my phone.

0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.040
<v Speaker 2>That's why my finger was briefly on my phone. I

0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.320
<v Speaker 2>wasn't quickly, you know, sending an email George.

0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.760
<v Speaker 1>No one's close watching our podcast. I have to be honest.

0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I was actually more apologizing. Interesting, interesting that you are.

0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.640
<v Speaker 2>You think I'm addressing our listeners. I'm actually so embodied,

0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.519
<v Speaker 2>and in the moment, I was just apologizing to my

0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:44.840
<v Speaker 2>two friends that are with me in the room.

0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I'm going to look at my phone to

0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:47.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of what the hell time it is?

0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, so that I.

0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Can sort of moving forward, know what time we're working

0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.720
<v Speaker 1>with you, so if anyone's mad, if anyone's watching, I'm

0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.960
<v Speaker 1>either in this room or at home. That's why I

0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:56.600
<v Speaker 1>just see my phone.

0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.880
<v Speaker 2>One of the most stressful things for me is it

0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.800
<v Speaker 2>when we were on tour, like two years ago. Sometimes

0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:04.880
<v Speaker 2>you would be like, can you keep track of the time?

0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.679
<v Speaker 2>And I knew that I needed to look at my

0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.319
<v Speaker 2>watch while we were on stage, but I could not

0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.520
<v Speaker 2>do it subtly. So the people in the audience looked

0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:18.120
<v Speaker 2>at me looking at my watch while performing, which I

0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.679
<v Speaker 2>think is like a It's like it's already rude to

0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.840
<v Speaker 2>do that just interpersonally, but to be a professional performer,

0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.240
<v Speaker 2>be on stage and fully look at your watch is

0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:30.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe legendary status.

0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:31.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's that bad.

0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:32.600
<v Speaker 2>You don't, okay.

0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.679
<v Speaker 1>I think looking at your watch is like reasonable, like

0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you actually know what time it is. Well, we're ripping

0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:37.679
<v Speaker 1>up there.

0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Looking at your watch. It's never actually rude. Sometimes you

0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:43.640
<v Speaker 2>really do just want to know what time it is,

0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.319
<v Speaker 2>but it has the reputation of being like, you know,

0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:47.840
<v Speaker 2>like ripping a fart or something.

0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I think it's like it's like yawning a little bit.

0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.800
<v Speaker 3>It's like yawning while someone's talking, and it's kind of

0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.920
<v Speaker 3>like I'm not bored. I'm like literally tired. Has nothing

0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:59.160
<v Speaker 3>to do with you. Okay, you're I'm tired all the time.

0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.000
<v Speaker 2>That the natural, the way you entered the conversation will

0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:03.160
<v Speaker 2>be studied for millennia.

0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.520
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I don't even know what.

0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Because because we you know, our bit normally would be

0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.320
<v Speaker 2>to yell at you and be like it's not you know,

0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.359
<v Speaker 2>we haven't brought you in yet. And that would become

0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.520
<v Speaker 2>a whole you know, it's hilarious. People love when we yell,

0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.680
<v Speaker 2>like guests like yell. Love when we get combative. People

0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.480
<v Speaker 2>say we miss it, like you guys are being too

0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.160
<v Speaker 2>nice these days. You know, we have all these A

0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.400
<v Speaker 2>listers on and we have to get back to our

0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.760
<v Speaker 2>roots of sort of berating our friends. Yeah, but the

0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:32.280
<v Speaker 2>way you entered immediately contributed something seemly were the conversation.

0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I was like, it feels wrong to y I know,

0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:34.960
<v Speaker 2>it felt really wrong.

0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:39.080
<v Speaker 3>You can yell. I love yelling, and I don't feel

0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:39.919
<v Speaker 3>sensitive about it.

0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Yells at me, No, do you even yelling family?

0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.240
<v Speaker 3>I come from a yelling family, yelling house. I've really

0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.320
<v Speaker 3>had to learn that yelling is not appropriate because I

0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:50.760
<v Speaker 3>don't think it's a big deal. But then it's like

0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.840
<v Speaker 3>some people, like when I had when I learned about tone,

0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.240
<v Speaker 3>like two years ago, I was it like, really blew

0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:56.640
<v Speaker 3>my mind?

0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.840
<v Speaker 1>What made you learn about tone?

0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Like meeting people from the Midwest, Yes, that'll do it.

0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.480
<v Speaker 3>When I moved to LA, I met people from the Midwest,

0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.799
<v Speaker 3>and I felt misread every once in a while, and

0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.400
<v Speaker 3>because they would be like, well, I don't want to

0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.840
<v Speaker 3>argue and I'd be like, I'm agreeing with you. We agree.

0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm like enjoying this conversation a lot. And I realized

0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.080
<v Speaker 3>that they that some yeah, or I dated someone who

0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:23.519
<v Speaker 3>I guess would yell at me a lot, but I

0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.720
<v Speaker 3>never noticed. And someone was like, she's yelling at you,

0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.280
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, oh, I don't care. I think it's funny. Yeah,

0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.480
<v Speaker 3>she's literally she's literally hilarious.

0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:34.640
<v Speaker 2>And you're like, oh, are you Italian.

0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, she's like up in arms, like it's funny. Yeah.

0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I would say the two people that have made me

0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.680
<v Speaker 2>really question my tone are Midwestern like sort of midwestern

0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.840
<v Speaker 2>nice people, and then honestly British people, because sometimes with

0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:53.080
<v Speaker 2>British people they will be so passive aggressive, but it's

0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.320
<v Speaker 2>like in their blood they're not trying to be rude. Right.

0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:01.520
<v Speaker 2>One time, I was taking the sort of oral exam

0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:07.280
<v Speaker 2>academic not medical, and the examiner was British valid and

0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I was living in Greece at the time, where I

0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.840
<v Speaker 2>went to high school. And I enter the room and

0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm speaking normally and she goes sort of

0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.480
<v Speaker 2>very quietly, Like something I've noticed in Greece is everyone's

0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:22.440
<v Speaker 2>really loud like clearly implying that I am being loud

0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:23.400
<v Speaker 2>upon entering the room.

0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.479
<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine that that's really hard as I'm yelling

0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.280
<v Speaker 3>into the microphone, that's really hard.

0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry that happened to you. It sounds like you

0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:34.120
<v Speaker 1>were microaggressed full I was macroaggress I would say.

0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would have a hard time. I would be

0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.760
<v Speaker 3>thinking about that feedback, if you can even call it

0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.039
<v Speaker 3>that sort of the whole time.

0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I wouldas then I would I had to go into

0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:42.560
<v Speaker 2>the oral exam.

0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Horrible, horrible, horrifying.

0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.679
<v Speaker 1>I learned over the last year of working a job

0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that you're not allowed You're not saying rad thank you,

0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You're not supposed to yawn in meetings. I've learned that

0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.480
<v Speaker 1>people get so upset when you're yawning while they're talking

0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.159
<v Speaker 1>in meetings, and it's like this is boring.

0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Wait, but like with your normal like coat, with like

0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:00.520
<v Speaker 3>a group.

0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Of co workers, Yeah, with the big wigs or with

0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.320
<v Speaker 2>either yeah, either way, people are saying, Sam, stop yawning.

0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.840
<v Speaker 2>You know he actually have to do nod constantly. This

0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:10.440
<v Speaker 2>is what you have to do.

0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I meant, does that stop you from yawning or.

0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Just no, it's just it makes it makes you seem

0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.320
<v Speaker 2>like you're agreeing with And actually sometimes I'll see it

0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.280
<v Speaker 2>because people do it and it's very phony. Sometimes I'll

0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.240
<v Speaker 2>see someone not the entire time I'm saying something, and

0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.640
<v Speaker 2>then when they actually speak up, it's to fully disagree

0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.800
<v Speaker 2>with me, but they're doing it in such a kind way.

0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I like when you're talking to someone and they

0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.919
<v Speaker 3>have that tick where they're mouthing the words yes with you,

0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm sort of like, I know, it seems like you're

0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.600
<v Speaker 3>actively listening, but you're feel like.

0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.160
<v Speaker 2>And similarly, when someone starts nodding before you make a point,

0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:45.960
<v Speaker 2>like you'll say something like you'll be like you know

0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the thing is and they are already yon and you're

0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.799
<v Speaker 2>like yeah or already nodding. You're like no, no, no, Now,

0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.520
<v Speaker 2>even if you keep nodding, I will know you're lying.

0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I had a friend that would literally finish every sentence

0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.240
<v Speaker 1>like and like would kind of get it wrong, like

0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.400
<v Speaker 1>just wait for me to say it and then you

0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.080
<v Speaker 1>can then you can respond honestly, be like, I can't

0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.200
<v Speaker 1>hang out this person anymore.

0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.000
<v Speaker 2>They're struggling to focus looking for a word, and someone

0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.640
<v Speaker 2>jumps in and they're like and they're like reifi, You're like, no, no,

0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm performing being like an intellectual who is looking for

0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:19.800
<v Speaker 2>a word. I know what I want to say.

0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:21.840
<v Speaker 1>If I could just pick a word, really nilly, I

0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.200
<v Speaker 1>would have picked a word. Willy nilly about what word?

0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:28.200
<v Speaker 3>And I'm thinking hard, like I'm trying hard to grip

0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.520
<v Speaker 3>on my thought. Yeah, as and if you say one thing,

0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.320
<v Speaker 3>it's gone and it could have been important.

0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.320
<v Speaker 2>It's also that never that word is not going to

0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.440
<v Speaker 2>be provoked. It's going to be something more sophisticated than provoked.

0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I know the word provoke, That's what I'm

0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:46.679
<v Speaker 2>looking Insight. No, that's equally that's actually equally basic.

0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I can't believe George just said in sight.

0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's it? But you know, like there's a group

0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.120
<v Speaker 2>of words. There's a group of verbs. Okay, bear with me,

0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.640
<v Speaker 2>and I think provoke and insight are two of them. Yeah,

0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and they all mean some version of like one thing

0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:07.000
<v Speaker 2>comes after the other provoke, insight, instigate, Yeah, don't you

0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.440
<v Speaker 2>think like and then they are used almost interchangeably, but

0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:09.800
<v Speaker 2>it's just.

0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Kind of syn andyms sort of.

0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.520
<v Speaker 2>But not but they're not exactly symtems. Don't you think

0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.640
<v Speaker 2>like instigate and provoke or not. But it's like you

0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.200
<v Speaker 2>house how like how you use them is almost like

0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.680
<v Speaker 2>a power move to show how much it's like using

0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.760
<v Speaker 2>the word dichotomy correctly. It's like even using the word

0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.080
<v Speaker 2>perform one.

0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Of my comfort it's it's a real comfort.

0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:31.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a real and I.

0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Have some comfort vocab words. And my mom has a

0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.000
<v Speaker 3>really good vocabulary and uses a lot of like weird

0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.480
<v Speaker 3>words I would say, and so I definitely have my

0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.600
<v Speaker 3>comfort vocab words. And every now and then someone be like, okay,

0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.360
<v Speaker 3>like you really use that word, and I'm like, well,

0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:48.240
<v Speaker 3>what do you want me to do?

0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Like sorry, to shake it up.

0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:50.280
<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:52.600
<v Speaker 1>More from the world.

0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Perpetuate pet that's.

0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:02.960
<v Speaker 3>An important one. That sound also sort of like not condescending,

0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:07.920
<v Speaker 3>but you can sound sort of like or like kind

0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:09.920
<v Speaker 3>of holier than now, Like it's like I wouldn't want

0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.360
<v Speaker 3>to propetal exactly because you're you're mostly trying not to

0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:13.800
<v Speaker 3>being yourself.

0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.920
<v Speaker 2>If you are pro perpetuation, you hate to leave. Look

0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.760
<v Speaker 2>in the mirror, you're literally Donald Trump, don't perpetuate.

0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I hate perpetuate.

0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I say, walk out the door on are my pet

0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:24.120
<v Speaker 2>peeves perpetuating.

0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Same, I'm against, but then sometimes I'm doing it.

0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's what you. Knowing that you know your superpower.

0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's exactly.

0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:32.320
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Perpetuating and knowing that you're perpetuating is a superpower. Yeah,

0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:37.920
<v Speaker 2>and that's the topic. Good mind, you love to stop,

0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.040
<v Speaker 2>don't hate perpetually, hate perpetuate.

0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I have a confession though. My ear has not popped

0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.320
<v Speaker 1>since the airplane last night. That's tough. And this has

0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.120
<v Speaker 1>never happened to me in my life. It feels like

0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing headphones and it's crazy.

0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:54.000
<v Speaker 3>And you've you've tried pulling, You've tried blowing, You've tried blowing.

0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I've not tried pulling.

0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I up pull the ears like themselves.

0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:08:58.480 --> 0:08:59.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you can blow and pull the

0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.400
<v Speaker 3>same time. But the poll feels good. Sometimes does at

0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:03.040
<v Speaker 3>least feel.

0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Good to pull. It actually feels amazing. Yeah yeah, but

0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.440
<v Speaker 2>then it doesn't happen fully. That's the pulling is like

0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.040
<v Speaker 2>brief relief.

0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have to hold it down.

0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you have to just play. Hey, guys, welcome

0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to my wedding like I do. Buddy, how's it going? Yeah?

0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Should we we should talk about what we were talking

0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:19.920
<v Speaker 1>about before.

0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, also please welcome tailor so much.

0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.280
<v Speaker 1>So, we were talking about how I'm getting gay married

0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:30.199
<v Speaker 1>this weekend.

0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.840
<v Speaker 2>And in fact, by the time you the listener are

0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.280
<v Speaker 2>listening to this, Sam will be married.

0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But we were talking about how there's a flood

0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:42.320
<v Speaker 1>of gay wedding which we don't know if that's is

0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.080
<v Speaker 1>that a trendler or are we just a different age.

0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.400
<v Speaker 3>I think I have no idea. I well, oh no,

0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.640
<v Speaker 3>my brain went to a crazy place. Well, okay, so

0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if how online y'all are or whatever.

0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.560
<v Speaker 3>But like, like a lot of the lesbian pop stars

0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:56.120
<v Speaker 3>are like.

0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:57.400
<v Speaker 2>In becoming straight.

0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're becoming straight, and in some ways it feels gay.

0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Joe just hit me straight and in some ways it

0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.760
<v Speaker 3>feels totally trad Fletcher, But like they're becoming straight. And

0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.120
<v Speaker 3>I do wonder if it's like if there's no possible

0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.560
<v Speaker 3>way for you to become straight, if like kind of

0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.600
<v Speaker 3>being like we'll do some of the Yeah.

0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, getting married is gig guy version of becoming straight.

0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's such a good point.

0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:24.200
<v Speaker 4>Participating like family, come see it, you can come see it.

0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.120
<v Speaker 3>I come see see it. And they're gonna love that

0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:28.080
<v Speaker 3>they're seeing it.

0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they really Damn it's really like that.

0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well there's also a way in which thirties are

0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.480
<v Speaker 2>twenties for the LGBTQ plus community of course. So all

0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:43.120
<v Speaker 2>these milestones, not just marriage, but like deciding to focus

0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.640
<v Speaker 2>on your career. Straight people have been doing that at

0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.080
<v Speaker 2>like twenty four, right, they're saying, I'm going to open

0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:48.840
<v Speaker 2>that bank account.

0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't think hitting the open MIC's hard? Was

0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:52.760
<v Speaker 1>focusing on your career?

0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing.

0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well well no, that's more chasing your dreams and

0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.040
<v Speaker 3>chasing your dreams and becausing on your career people think

0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.840
<v Speaker 3>are the same thing, but they're diametric.

0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for not perpetuating that.

0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no way, you had a chance to perpetuate and

0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:10.560
<v Speaker 2>you opted not to.

0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.960
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to. I didn't feel right. Wow, I

0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.000
<v Speaker 3>do think you're way too young to get married.

0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.040
<v Speaker 2>No, you're a child bride.

0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.880
<v Speaker 3>You're way too When you said that, I was like, no, right, yeah,

0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:23.280
<v Speaker 3>there is.

0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Also it's one thing that I'm it's the big thing

0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.400
<v Speaker 1>with gay marriage too, is it's like every gay guy

0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.760
<v Speaker 1>on earth is in an open relationship. Yes, so there

0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.319
<v Speaker 1>is like the weight is different in a way that

0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm not sure how to like grapple. Like

0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the normal language around a wedding is sort of like

0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.040
<v Speaker 1>confusing to apply.

0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, what do you say? It's both it's paradoxical, not

0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.120
<v Speaker 2>to perpetuate using the term paradoxical. So on the one hand,

0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.120
<v Speaker 2>it is quote unquote less of a big deal to

0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.199
<v Speaker 2>get married if you're open, because you're not actually changing

0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.280
<v Speaker 2>anything about your behavior. On the other hand, considering marriage

0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.400
<v Speaker 2>is like not a necessary thing for you to do.

0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.240
<v Speaker 2>It's a bigger deal because you could just as well

0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.679
<v Speaker 2>not do it, So it's a real like choice, you

0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.800
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Sure, So that I think is

0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.200
<v Speaker 2>what's sort of confusing about it. Everyone like is there

0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:15.880
<v Speaker 2>at the wedding and doesn't know how big of a

0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:16.360
<v Speaker 2>deal it is.

0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I mean. Well, if they're straight,

0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.199
<v Speaker 3>that they should be assuming it's a just as big

0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:23.560
<v Speaker 3>a deal.

0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.320
<v Speaker 2>But even gay people will be like congrass. Yeah, So

0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.960
<v Speaker 2>do you guys like want kids? Is that what you're doing? Like,

0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.800
<v Speaker 2>tell me why is it like a tax thing?

0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's probably feels like absolutely amazing to be

0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.800
<v Speaker 3>like my husband, this my husband that you know, I think, yeah.

0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.439
<v Speaker 2>That rocks. Do you romanticize that?

0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:47.040
<v Speaker 3>I never ever did in my whole life, And I

0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.480
<v Speaker 3>guess I still don't. Like this is horrible, but that

0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.840
<v Speaker 3>when I think of a wedding for myself, I'm just like, oh,

0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:54.800
<v Speaker 3>that sounds like I can't plan a trip. I'm gonna

0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.800
<v Speaker 3>plan a wedding Like that does sound really daunting and

0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.920
<v Speaker 3>like crazy. But when I just think about if I

0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.040
<v Speaker 3>think about, like, okay, me and my partner, like the

0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.960
<v Speaker 3>very moment getting married, like that's sweet. I'd romanticize that

0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.160
<v Speaker 3>with the like individual person, yes, But when I try

0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:15.600
<v Speaker 3>to make it practical in my mind, I go, oh.

0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's in terms of the trip comparison. I think

0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.600
<v Speaker 2>it's easier to plan a wedding than a trip because

0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.439
<v Speaker 2>it's where you live, like pick your favorite bar, right,

0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:21.880
<v Speaker 2>You're done.

0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Well. It's also it's more like a solo show than

0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:24.240
<v Speaker 1>a trip.

0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I mean unless you're doing like yeah, if

0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.520
<v Speaker 2>you're getting married on the Amalfi Coast, like absolutely, that's

0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.520
<v Speaker 2>going to be hard to go ahead and be talk. Yeah,

0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't even know where it began to be. I

0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.439
<v Speaker 2>was like no one to recommend No, I didn't know

0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.480
<v Speaker 2>the right venue. Yeah, I don't. I don't know anything

0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:39.760
<v Speaker 2>about it.

0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.640
<v Speaker 3>I would rather die than go to the Mafee coast

0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.920
<v Speaker 3>and get like married at like a venue like everyone's like, oh,

0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.040
<v Speaker 3>it's so like tired, like that place is so bad before.

0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.200
<v Speaker 2>You leaves, and she looks exactly like you.

0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she seems more basic, like I look basic right now,

0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:55.680
<v Speaker 3>but like actually my life I'm cool.

0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.000
<v Speaker 2>So that was really really painful. I you said something though,

0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.920
<v Speaker 2>that was interesting, which is like the idea that we

0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.480
<v Speaker 2>would want to say the phrase my husband. Here's my

0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:10.160
<v Speaker 2>take on that. I think the only appropriate phrasing of

0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.880
<v Speaker 2>my husband or my wife is a woman saying my wife.

0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.720
<v Speaker 2>That is the only time I don't I'm serious, That

0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.200
<v Speaker 2>is the only time I don't cringe because got it.

0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Straight woman saying my husband, I'm like, you're trapped.

0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.640
<v Speaker 3>I literally get a little nervous.

0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Straight guy saying my wife, I'm like, don't talk about

0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:26.520
<v Speaker 2>her like that.

0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys saying my husband, I'm like, are you Republican?

0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.560
<v Speaker 2>But a woman saying my wife, You're like, finally I

0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:34.720
<v Speaker 2>feel safe for me.

0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm wanting to like code switch when I

0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:41.240
<v Speaker 1>say boyfriend and husband, because like, say I'm in if

0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm with like like people at this job, for example,

0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.880
<v Speaker 1>who aren't like comedians, like more exec types, I want

0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to be like my husband so they're like, oh you're

0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:51.720
<v Speaker 1>not just something.

0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah totally.

0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.720
<v Speaker 1>And then like or like in a hospital, I want

0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:57.240
<v Speaker 1>to be like, this is my husband, so it's like

0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.720
<v Speaker 1>you have to take him seriously.

0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.080
<v Speaker 2>But with my girls, I want to be like, this

0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:02.840
<v Speaker 2>is my boyfriend.

0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, any second, of course I'm young, I'm.

0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Then I will say, you'll notice this after you get married.

0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.640
<v Speaker 2>You just like simply can't say my boyfriend because it's inaccurate.

0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.400
<v Speaker 2>You just like, can't you have to do partner or something.

0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:16.080
<v Speaker 1>It's my guy?

0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.640
<v Speaker 2>It would yeah, Like it feels so crazy to say

0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.240
<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend. And so what I have ended up doing

0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.600
<v Speaker 2>is like unintentionally almost rolling my eyes while saying my husband.

0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Every time people like do you not like him? I'm like, no,

0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.280
<v Speaker 2>like I love him, but you know, a husband.

0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.240
<v Speaker 3>When I was like seven, the idea of saying my boyfriend, like,

0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:40.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, some day I'm going to say my boyfriend

0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.120
<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to be like forty like you when

0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.400
<v Speaker 3>you're a little kid and you have no idea what

0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.800
<v Speaker 3>age is. I just thought the most adult thing you

0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.000
<v Speaker 3>could do is have a boyfriend.

0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally.

0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Not even husband didn't even cross my mind. I was like,

0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.600
<v Speaker 3>imagine a woman with a boyfriend like that is just

0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:54.960
<v Speaker 3>so classy.

0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Here's a question for you. You meet a woman she's

0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.640
<v Speaker 2>fifty five, Yeah, she says, my boyfriend, what are you thinking?

0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.240
<v Speaker 3>You know what am I thinking? I really think it

0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.640
<v Speaker 3>really depends on what I think, totally it is because

0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.640
<v Speaker 3>I know if she parties, I'm sort of like, you've

0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.320
<v Speaker 3>never been married, or you've been married like five times.

0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.320
<v Speaker 3>It's like one of the other. Yeah, my boy, it

0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.760
<v Speaker 3>really Yeah, it depends on where, what city she lives in,

0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:24.960
<v Speaker 3>what kind of shoes she's wearing.

0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a friend on your own biases and misogyny and

0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.120
<v Speaker 2>like because sometimes, like we're talking about gray hair, Yeah,

0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.360
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you see someone with gray hair and without realizing it,

0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.760
<v Speaker 2>you're having ageous thoughts. It's the same with a fifty

0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.280
<v Speaker 2>five year old woman saying boyfriend. Suddenly you don't even

0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.040
<v Speaker 2>realize that you're like spinster Spencer war.

0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Don't tell anyone stuff like that. Give that to yourself.

0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I have obviously always wanted to ironically use the word husbar.

0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that is one of the funniest.

0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Like you're introducing that to me.

0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.320
<v Speaker 2>No, I love that that is it's one of those

0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.280
<v Speaker 2>rms that only exists in Instagram captions.

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.959
<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly. So what type of gay person would you use?

0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.439
<v Speaker 1>So like a bear like visiting Dallas would be like

0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.639
<v Speaker 1>I had the most amazing time with the husbar in Dallas.

0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, and but then okay, but.

0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.840
<v Speaker 2>They live in Atlanta. But yeah, they live in Atlanta.

0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:23.920
<v Speaker 2>They're visiting Dallas.

0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Is your husband? Will your husband be a hus bear?

0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Technically not a little bear? A little bears.

0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.679
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because you know Sam is known for loving bears.

0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.840
<v Speaker 2>It's true. Okay, I would say your husband is not

0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:39.960
<v Speaker 2>like textbook definition.

0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:44.000
<v Speaker 1>No, he he he transcends category.

0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:44.919
<v Speaker 2>He does transcend.

0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.479
<v Speaker 1>He's sort of a he's a larger twink. We called

0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.480
<v Speaker 1>him because he's hairless and a bear.

0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Usually thank you for the elephant in the room. Is

0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:54.480
<v Speaker 2>that he's hairless.

0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.680
<v Speaker 1>He's hairless, okay, and he has sort of like dream

0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.640
<v Speaker 1>boy hair like on his head.

0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like teen heart throw. He really looks especially when

0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.800
<v Speaker 2>he does his hair a certain way, like looks like

0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:09.159
<v Speaker 2>a teen heart throb in a you know not w B.

0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm majoring my shoulf.

0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Show.

0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Thank god, Spinster, thank god you have husband righting.

0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Literally i'd be undatable, but that's but he's still bigger.

0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.080
<v Speaker 2>So it's that combo, got it?

0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.679
<v Speaker 3>What I don't know that there's not that's crazy. There

0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.160
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be a term for that yet.

0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, well, it's just still.

0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.879
<v Speaker 3>So much room to grow, right, That's so beautiful. I

0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.880
<v Speaker 3>just feel like gays are so quick to label each

0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.399
<v Speaker 3>other totally, we're because of jumping at it constantly. So

0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.720
<v Speaker 3>that actually shocks me that there's like a type of

0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.160
<v Speaker 3>hot guy that doesn't have a name.

0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Yet there is.

0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Like a there is. I think it's a rare. It's

0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:55.480
<v Speaker 1>rarer than you would think to be hairless, you know.

0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:59.560
<v Speaker 3>And what happens sort of what I'm like, what is

0:18:59.600 --> 0:18:59.919
<v Speaker 3>going on?

0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you think to be annoyed me? What? Oh?

0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Misha? Yeah, I was like, I'm not annoyed. He's like,

0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:13.000
<v Speaker 2>don't just perpetrate the myth that I'm annoyed. Wait, also

0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:17.200
<v Speaker 2>that perpetuating the either perpetrating the myth or the narrative.

0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.280
<v Speaker 2>If you're perpetuating a narrative, you should be in prison.

0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:22.320
<v Speaker 3>What else is there to perpetuate?

0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I think narrative, myth, perpetrating the idea. I think a

0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:31.399
<v Speaker 2>bit pedestrian, but you can do it. Ooh pedestrians, good, pedestrians,

0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.320
<v Speaker 2>really good? Should we do our for a segment?

0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:39.879
<v Speaker 3>I think we should, Taylor.

0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Our first segment is called Straight Shooters, and in this segment,

0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:44.080
<v Speaker 1>we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire

0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.639
<v Speaker 1>questions to gauge your familiarity with in complicity and straight culture.

0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.080
<v Speaker 1>It's basically this thing or this other thing. And the

0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.480
<v Speaker 1>only rule is you can ask any followup questions or

0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 1>we'll scream at you, which will feel so natural to

0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you amazing.

0:19:55.640 --> 0:20:01.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you'll probably let me really motivate me. Okay, Taylor,

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:09.680
<v Speaker 2>failing the capture or preparing the macha.

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.520
<v Speaker 3>I do need to ask a question. I'm thinking what

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.159
<v Speaker 3>straight I can't Okay, failing the.

0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Capture, Okay, losing the thread or making the.

0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Bed, making the bud.

0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:22.920
<v Speaker 2>The end is near or your uber is here?

0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Your uber is here?

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:27.640
<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ or l m n O p.

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Lgbtq being sexist or supporting Brexit, being.

0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Vivica a Fox or Smoky the Bear.

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Fox, baked beans, ripped jeans, or Howard Dean's famous scream

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:50.480
<v Speaker 2>baked beans.

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 1>False prophets or wall sockets, oh, false profits. Wow.

0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 2>So we rate our guest performance on the scale of

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:01.119
<v Speaker 2>the row to one thousand doves.

0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, oh okay, yeah, yeah, I know this.

0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like really bullish on this one. Really, yeah, please

0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.640
<v Speaker 2>lead the way. I think this is like over nine

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:15.120
<v Speaker 2>hundred wow, And I have reasons. Okay here, I think

0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:20.480
<v Speaker 2>you entered the space of like sitcom level facial expressions

0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.600
<v Speaker 2>that I had not seen up to this point on it,

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.320
<v Speaker 2>and it was you were literally being like the bitchy

0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 2>sister in like not even Stevens because that's because actually

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I think she could have used more facial expressions Ren Stevens, Well,

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I would say it was more of a Chelsea on

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:40.879
<v Speaker 2>That's so Rayvent type performance.

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.800
<v Speaker 2>You're really like showing a lot with your face and

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:45.719
<v Speaker 2>I hope people are watching rather than listenings to get

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the full experience.

0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I've been told I'm very expressed.

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I actually think especially in this game, it

0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 2>really worked for you, because obviously this game is us

0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 2>doming our guest, Like we're the ones saying literally being like,

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.359
<v Speaker 2>look at these funny rhymes we wrote, and you have

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do, Like, all you have to do is

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 2>pick one that we already said. So you found yourself trapped.

0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>You were like, how do I make this performance more impactful?

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 2>And you were like, I have to go face. I

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:11.760
<v Speaker 2>have to go all face.

0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm a more controlling person than I want to admit,

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.359
<v Speaker 3>and at the end of the day, I love to

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:20.120
<v Speaker 3>over explain and when I can't, I guess I'm using

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.439
<v Speaker 3>my face to do it. Because I started out being like,

0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:24.680
<v Speaker 3>what is more straight? And then I found myself kind

0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 3>of getting kind of just letting myself get lost in

0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:27.359
<v Speaker 3>the game.

0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's good. You know, it's sort of about transcending

0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.360
<v Speaker 1>labels and yeah, totally just you know, being you.

0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I said, I have to quiet my mind for a

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.920
<v Speaker 3>minute and just like actually pick whatever my internal needle

0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:39.439
<v Speaker 3>is pointing to.

0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And I think that to perpetrate a narrative. The narrative

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 2>of this game to me is like in real time,

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 2>realizing binaries are not good because you think it's about

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.679
<v Speaker 2>choosing one or the other. It's actually about what facial

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 2>expression you make while speaking, like it doesn't matter which

0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:57.359
<v Speaker 2>one you choose.

0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.200
<v Speaker 3>And I don't even know what, Like obviously one of

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 3>us know what our own facial expressions look like.

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 1>That's true, Just so that's actually really scary.

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it is.

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I've noticed that I have such a go to that

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 1>is not something I'm proud of, and you're coaching that

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could break.

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Is I go like, that's cute?

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Wait, that's cute. It makes you like a cartoon.

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>It's a very cartoony. And I can't stop like I.

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Can do that. I don't think I can. You could

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 3>do it. I can't do that.

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 2>You can't do a sad face. Oh yeah, that's good.

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 2>You look like him when she's playing the base.

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 3>That it feels like, I know, I think I'm I'm

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 3>doing I'm pushing it too much.

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you guys, what if that was your if your

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 2>default expression was stim that would be tough. Do you

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 2>ever think she tried to change I actually think it's

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 2>the opposite. I think she thinks she's so. First of all,

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 2>we love him and want them to come on the podcast.

0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I just want to make that clear.

0:23:58.080 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Let's start there.

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 2>But no, I actually think, as we've said before, she's

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 2>a comedian at heart, and I think she loves that.

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 2>She's the funny one.

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.200
<v Speaker 3>I saw it recently. I saw the basepace recently and

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 3>I said, oh, she's leaned into it.

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, the venues have gotten larger, so you have

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:15.120
<v Speaker 1>to project.

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, the smile has to be truly, like from

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 2>ear to ear. She's she's like the movie smile. Oh

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 2>my god, they should do the movie smile, but instead

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>of the smile, it's behind space face.

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 3>And everyone.

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Are you familiar with the Heims sisters generally?

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I this is really I when I first heard them,

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 3>I saw it was meeeing them live. They were opening

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.880
<v Speaker 3>This is twenty eleven. I think they were opening four

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 3>Mumford and Sons. And I paid ticket holder to that event.

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 3>You know what, whatever, the songs were good, I don't care.

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 1>And calling yourself a paid ticket holder makes it seem

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 1>like you were paid to go there.

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were. You were a crisis actor.

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 3>I found it on the Craigslist. They were like, please

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.959
<v Speaker 3>need people to come to this Philly Mumfort and Suns show.

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I was so excited to go.

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:05.159
<v Speaker 3>I was twenty eleven or twenty twelve, and I was like,

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 3>who are these girls playing all these drums?

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the drums were because I saw them in like

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 2>probably after You unfortunately, but like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 2>and the drum break. Yes, I was like, these girls are.

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Going somewhere very impressive.

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 2>We have a game that no one likes where we

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like fuck Mary kill. But it's three things and

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 2>you have to say which one is Alana, which one

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 2>is Danielle, and which one is st okay, And of

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 2>course now that I brought it up, we have to

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 2>give one.

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, here's okay, okakay, Yeah, regular coke, diet coke,

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 1>coke zero.

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh fuck, that's really good okay to me. I'm just

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 3>gonna go with my gut. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm questioning it.

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 3>I think SD is obviously coke zero, and that's my

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 3>most obvious totally yes. And then I was kind of

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 3>flip flopping on these, but I do think actually that

0:25:59.880 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I was going to go the other way. But I

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 3>think Danielle is regular coke. I completely agree, yes, and

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 3>then Alana is cooke cookes hera I mean die yeah,

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's based on like not only the the product

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 3>itself and the reception, but also the cans. I'm basing

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:20.360
<v Speaker 3>a I'm basing a little. You have to there's such

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:21.640
<v Speaker 3>a such a strung.

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.360
<v Speaker 2>And I actually think those three cans correspond to how

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 2>the three sisters are always dressed like a little alike

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 2>but with their own personality, Like they would if they

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 2>were soft drinks, they would literally look like that.

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 3>They would have to do it that way.

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, agree, like similar palate. But you know, one is

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.199
<v Speaker 2>a short skirt, one is a pant, one is like

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 2>asymmetrical skirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Tina Knowles, Yeah, well

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 2>they're very Tina Knowles actually designs all their costumes and

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 2>of people, China knows designed that little bikini top they

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 2>were when they did the dance that everyone loved.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, she was in a rush that day.

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Tina wanted each of them to be different, but that

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 2>days was like, I cannot a fabric to do the

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 2>entire Renaissance tour and these fu Hims sisters.

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Like, Okay, you're just gonna match.

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 2>You're just gonna match.

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Should we get into the topic, yes, yes, So tell

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>us what topic you've brought today?

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I would today, I would like to talk about game nights.

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 3>I feel like the more gay my community has become,

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 3>my circle has become, and moving to LA it became

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 3>even like I would say, ten million times gayer. I'm

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 3>not really going to game nights anymore. I'm sort of not.

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't know if that's because I was single

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 3>for a while and what it was, But I do

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 3>think it's like gay people, they're not doing game nights.

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 2>When you were going to game nights, describe it.

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 3>For us, it was sort of like if it was

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 3>a very much a couple's thing, okay, and it would

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 3>usually be like hosted by like a straight couple who

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 3>had like a nice apartment they lived together.

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>You were in a couple at the time.

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 3>At the time, I was in a couple, yet with

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 3>what gender of person with it was a lesbian relationship.

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 3>But what I will say is it was I've been

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 3>trying to describe My partner is six years younger than me,

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 3>and I've been trying to describe to them lately how

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 3>there were like no lesbians in New York in twenty

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 3>eighteen or whatever.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>The things.

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 2>You're so no, You're literally so right.

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, no, you don't understand, Like there weren't

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 3>any lesbians. And it's like if you weren't here, you

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't know, but like there weren't any. So it's kind

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 3>of like, yeah, we were going to a lot of

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:28.719
<v Speaker 3>we're hanging out last week, Well so maybe like one

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.439
<v Speaker 3>other lesbian couple, you know. And I think that that

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 3>was a time where yeah, I was going to a

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 3>lot of organized like I do think like they're like

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 3>organized hangs or very much a thing, and games happened

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 3>to be an easy way to do that.

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I could do an hour. We could do an

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 2>hour on how there were no lesbians in twenty eighteen.

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Well it's something where you're like I fully think that

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>is true. Yeah, and it's like but there's no way

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to prove it.

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Well you can't.

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't prove it.

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Here's what you remember. This like a running joke, especially

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 2>when we were touring, was like I am always staying

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>with my lesbian couple of friends in every city because I,

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, have a lot of loves being a

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>couple of friends. It's like one is in Bosson, one

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 2>is in Berkeley, one was in Philly or whatever, and

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like wait, if I was out of town,

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>who what lesbian couple would I stay with in New York?

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>There were none?

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where as I mean I've said that New York

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>is for gay guys in Las for Leslie, it.

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Is, yes, and it's it is so wild, it's so true.

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 3>And now there's like a little bit more like gen

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Z has really like shaken things up finally. But when

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 3>I I when I came out, I feel like me

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 3>and like I would say, a handful of friends came

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 3>out and it felt like wow, like everyone's lesbian now

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 3>and it's so small in comparison to like even today.

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 3>And but like before before I came out, truly there

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 3>was like one couple absolutely holding it down for years.

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.959
<v Speaker 3>There was like one lesbian couple and I really am

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 3>like what were they? And I go, what were they do?

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Who are they hanging out with? George Bush? Now we know,

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 3>but we know it really is. Yeah, it was really crazy,

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it was doing we were, Yeah, we were

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 3>hanging out with And I love my straight couple of friends.

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Of course, remember like who they were, what they're up?

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, but maybe they're all gay.

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Now A huge part of your twenties is going on

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>group trips with straight couples.

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, up state, Oh MyD because that's the only place

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 3>to go.

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I almost find it kind of sad because you're like,

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you do want to make it work. You're like, so

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>we have different sexualities. Who cares?

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Who cares? That's the nineties.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>It's the nineties, everyone's bisexual. And then you're like, no,

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like a it's like an inherent difference, Like the

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>things we want to do are so yeah.

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 2>No. You're at the trip and you're like, who cares,

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, so, we're gonna make lasagna. Everyone get

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>in line like you do the you do the sauce,

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>and you're like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 3>And when you're a trip with gay people, it's like, yes,

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 3>people are still making lasagna, but they're also like showing

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 3>each other their tops urgery cars.

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 2>They're showing each other the top cars and also are

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>wildly different and poppers are being passed around at the

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>lasagna table when you are like passing the food from

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 2>one person or the other.

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>It's also like there's gonna be nudity in some compes,

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and with the straight couples it's like, no, we're going

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to bed.

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Now, that would be oh my god, if there was,

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 3>like if there was a connudity on a straight couple

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 3>trip the way, that would be totally just so inappropriate.

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I would never speak to everyone's families.

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Here's what happens on a straight it's nighttime, you're watching,

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 2>you're rewatching Anchorman. Let's say someone goes, I'm going to

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>bed because I have to wake up early tomorrow for

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 2>a run. Yeah, I have to wake up early for

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 2>a run.

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Whereas especially a gig eye trip, they are also waking

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>up really for a run, but you don't know how

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>they did it. Yeah, you're like, it is shocked so

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>much to drink.

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 3>And I don't like that that when that's happening either.

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:48.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like really scary.

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't support that either. I but agree, I think

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like and also it's like, is there even I

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 3>take back what I said about lasagna. I don't know

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 3>that there's dinner.

0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or it's like really minimal tacos, like one piece

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>of tempe on a tortilla.

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, a cabbage salad, cabbage salad.

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So what kinds of games are we talking when

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>we talk game night?

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 3>So I do think like you had said that you

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 3>had you had spoken sort of about like tabletop games,

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 3>which I do think so I think that still happens.

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I get a little I don't like having the rules

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 3>explain to me. I like to play. I'm a competitive person,

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 3>but I gotta sit through the rules. It's just kind

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 3>of like, well I ever learned this, but then more

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 3>frequently also jack box, jack box culture, jackbox games, which

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I do. Here's the thing I am not this is

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 3>not coming from a critical place because if I have

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 3>to hang out with like a couple people's boyfriends, it

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 3>is sort of like there's probably gonna be maybe one

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 3>that I'm actually like vibe with. So it is kind

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 3>of like, yeah, we need an icebreaker, totally, we need

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 3>an icebreaker.

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's no shame in that. Like I would

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>rather have the icebreaker and be like I cannot believe

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing who know mm hmm, then literally be talking

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 2>about the weather.

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I even on a gay trip, I find that like

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>when you're on day three, it's like bring out jackbox,

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Like we need something to.

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, I'm playing skip bo like all the time

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 3>with lesbians. Yeah, but we're sort of doing it like

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm at a bar, and we're kind of like, do

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 3>we want to do around? You know, yeah, I want

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 3>to do a quick skipbo or something. But I think an

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 3>organized game night is a little bit like I'm bringing

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 3>like a little six pack and I'm we're going and

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know everybody, and I'm going to We're

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 3>all going to get to know each other sort of.

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 3>And none of them are drinking games, which is fine.

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Which is fine.

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I actually had an experience recently where I was watching, uh,

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>what's Benny's show called Overcompensating. Yeah, I was watching over

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Compensating and they were playing some either flip Cup or

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 2>beer Pung or something. And I really shocked myself because

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like legitimate. I was like I want to

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>do that. Yeah, oh I crave it. So I was like, wait,

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I love flip Cup.

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Did you play it in college? Yeah?

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah.

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait, I want to do That's so bad.

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>There are other things that are like triggering because they

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.239
<v Speaker 2>remind me of just like where I was at at

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty one or nineteen or whatever. But for whatever reason,

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I really have only positive associations with drinking games, such.

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Positive sociations with both flip Cup and beer pong. Yeah,

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and it should be triggering, it should be like yeah,

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And I.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Was so like, actually, yeah, it's a bad time in

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 3>our lives.

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I did really like the games.

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Well so far.

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Usually too, it's sort of like, oh, what party is

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 3>going on? Not everybody has to play the game. I

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 3>don't like, we have to play the game.

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I agree. You know what else, that's so true.

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 3>You know some people are kind of playing a little

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 3>flip cups, So people are having a conversation over here,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 3>some people are you know. That feels nice to me.

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 2>It has the air of sports without you having to

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>actually be athletic. And I actually think you would think, oh,

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 2>drink games are so straight at so Freddy, here's the thing,

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm just as good at flip cup as a football player. Right.

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 2>How many things can I say that about that are

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 2>like masculine seeming.

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Totally well and similar. Really, there's something. The fondness I

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>have for it is because I was like friends with

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the Brouses, like say.

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 2>For that like half hour game recognized game. Yeah yeah,

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 2>and they would maybe put their arm around you like

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>this and be like my guy, oh it's all I

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>ever wanted.

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 3>We were sort of having different I think experience.

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then and then you and then we would

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 2>flip Yeah.

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 3>I guess it is kind of like flirty to be

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 3>like like we're playing flip cup together, like we're playing

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 3>like or like I don't know how to how do

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 3>you play this?

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm such a totally hideous or something. I think

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 1>part of the board game thing is there's a built

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 1>in like safety, like it's sort of like this night

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>will only get so crazy, like yeah, I kind of

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 1>like this is something I struggle with with Los Angeles. Yes,

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>this podcast is half about where every night, like before

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you even get there, you know what the end time is.

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Eleven, Yeah, it's eleven.

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And literally clear like and so that's sort of why

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 1>people are like, well, why would I even go because

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I know it's going to end.

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 3>It eleven attending at eleven.

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so like a BOYD game is that all

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the time where it's like this is going to be

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>a structured two hours, yeah, and then we're going to

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>go home. And I hate knowing.

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 3>That I live with in LA with a friend who

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 3>is and I know she tries to play a cool game,

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 3>a little game obsessed, and definitely I would say competition obsessed,

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, And so people don't know. But when she

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 3>brings out a game, I see that glint in her

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 3>eye that she's barely containing sort of an incredibly competitive spirit,

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 3>and I do not I don't mind when she pulls

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 3>out a game. I will say, though, that one time

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 3>we were here in New York, which she has ever

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 3>lived here, she was like a Chicago person who moved

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 3>to La. Everything's ending really early, okay, But this girl

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 3>has the spirit to absolutely persevere through days and days

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 3>and days no sleep, okay. The most active person I've

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 3>ever met. And so when we would come to New

0:36:58.080 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 3>York on these little short trips, it was like we

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 3>were to like six in the morning. I went, I

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 3>didn't do that when I lived here. I don't need

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 3>to be out that late, you know. And we were

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 3>up one day at a friend's house and it was

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 3>four am, and I was like, it's time to go

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 3>to pack it up, and She's like, let's do one

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 3>quick quick ground of anomia. No okay, And we did.

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Everyone was down for it, and listen, I got my

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 3>head in the game. I got into it. We played

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. I was sort of like, that's so

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 3>bold to bring out a game at four am and

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 3>and to have the like her influence, to have the

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 3>influence and this sway to get people to agree with

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 3>that no question that people.

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Went, yeah, I mean that is shocking.

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's a very persuasive person.

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I can tell. But I'm sort of like that that

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 2>to me reads more gay. I'm like, she's gay. Yeah,

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 2>like that. It's like, folks, she's gay. Yay, I think

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 2>she's out. You're outing her. The issue with what makes

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Game Light straight is the obsession with structure and end

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 2>time and like this idea, this very sort of like

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.479
<v Speaker 2>parent like idea, like I just want everyone to have fun. Yeah,

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 2>it's like bringing out juice boxes for everyone. It's like

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 2>being the mom after the soccer game.

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 3>And I like that's comforting.

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's comforting. And it's also a fear of the unknown,

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Like it's like, what could happen if we start talking

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>suddenly we're talking politics. We can't have that, so we

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 2>have to blame monopoly.

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Right, And I will say though, there's always one boyfriend

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 3>or husband who really cares about the rules. Yeah, and

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm really competitive, but I also I really think I

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 3>strike sort of an amazing balance of someone who follows

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 3>the rules. I don't cheat, but I like to have fun.

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 3>And if I notice someone kind of cut in a corner,

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 3>it's like, I want not fun. I actually don't care

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 3>if I win. I'm you know, I'm winning a lot,

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 3>but I want to have a good time. I want

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 3>to have a fun night. I am mature enough to

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 3>understand that it's sort of like barking at someone that

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 3>we don't really know that well, it's like a crazy

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 3>thing to do, and it's going to shift the vibe

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 3>in sort of like a treacher to a treacherous extent.

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 3>And I think that, yeah, I think there's always like

0:38:58.400 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 3>one boyfriend who's kind of like.

0:38:59.600 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Can we go?

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Can we go back?

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Would we?

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 3>And I'm sort of like, I don't know, I don't

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 3>know you like that, can we Just.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>The way that this has happened to me in a

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 1>crazy like I'm just trying to play this game and

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>someone's like no, no, no, and I'm like, I'm just

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to play the game. I'm this is my first time.

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:17.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm learning the rules, like.

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 3>And what will happen should I win unjustly? What will

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 3>really happen? Like what who's gonna do Who's gonna do

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 3>what to me?

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 2>So this is interesting. Games are combined two things that

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>are actually kind of opposite rules, a sense of play,

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 2>and I think that is the gay to straight to

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 2>gay spectrum. It's like, are you playing? Is game night

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 2>a rules based game night? Or is game made a

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 2>sense of play based game?

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow, because I think you can have like a really

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 2>fun like playing Quiplash and everyone writing you know, literally

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 2>every single entry is the f slur. That's a sense

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:00.879
<v Speaker 2>of play, and.

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 3>I like Jackbox for that. It kind of keeps like

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.879
<v Speaker 3>the you can't cheat really so that's good.

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Yet and yet some people find a way to get

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>upset at literally Quiplash to be like mine was funnier.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 3>I know, and like and I have that feeling sometimes

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 3>where I go that was a better mind, was a

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 3>better joke.

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 2>You know when people win Quiplash because of anti humor,

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 2>I get so upset and like, I put all the

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.879
<v Speaker 2>work into doing this wordplay and you want because yours

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 2>is like poop, Yeah, like a smile a smiley emotion.

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, And I'm kind of doing both. Yeah, Like I'm

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 3>really I'm really reading the room and I'm going what

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 3>will win me the right, So I'll do that. I

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 3>don't care if I start to see that working, I'm

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 3>changing my strategy.

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Ideally, the whole group, you know, it has more of

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:50.920
<v Speaker 1>an improve mentality, and everyone finds the similar voice, but not.

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 3>Always No, no, I want. This is like so sad

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 3>that this is a memory I returned to a lot.

0:40:56.800 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 3>But years ago, I was dating this guy and he

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 3>took me to play games quip blash games with his

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 3>mod team, and I was absolutely murdering. Yeah, okay, I

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 3>was killing and people were like full body laugh, you know,

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 3>and I was getting and I was just kind of like,

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.439
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not sort of seeking validation in those ways

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 3>anymore obviously, but I remember at the time it felt amazing,

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 3>like my face was probably fully flushed, like it's really bad.

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 3>And he dumped me. Can you believe?

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, obviously men are threatened by a powerful and funny

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 2>and smart woman. Do you know if you didn't want

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 2>him to dump you, you should have been like, I don't know, pink.

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 3>I said everything I possibly could to prevent that from happening.

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding? I told you having a boyfriend was

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 3>like paramount for me. I really was not about for

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 3>us too. Yeah.

0:41:56.800 --> 0:42:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I the times Misha, my soon to be husband, is

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>like good at quip blash.

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 2>He's like a funny guy.

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>But comedians will get upset because they're like, well I

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 1>do this.

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well that is the issue with quiplash is sometimes

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 2>if it's a not to get to in the weeds,

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 2>sometimes if it's a mixed comedian non comedian group, it

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 2>actually can be even more detrimental than straight people making lasagna. Right,

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Like we're talking friendships are going to be ruined.

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it really reminds you. And I say this

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 3>all the time, and it's one of the most annoying

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 3>things that I say. It's that like we don't even

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 3>really know who the audience is. You know, we think

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 3>that we think of the audience as each other. But no, no, no,

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 3>there's a whole audience out there. Okay, who don't they're

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 3>not participating in making art, they're just there to enjoy it.

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:45.760
<v Speaker 3>And what they're laughing at, I have no idea, very different.

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I'll never Yeah, what are they laughing at?

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Who knows? Who knows?

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Let's think, No, are they laughing at SD's comedy routine.

0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 3>That they they don't know?

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:02.479
<v Speaker 2>They don't know who s This is actually something we've

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>realized more and more is that no one knows more

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 2>of whe people hate that segment. Yeah, people hate that

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 2>segment because they're like, who are they again?

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, by now we compared the like casual French rest

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>like fast casual French restaurants to the him.

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Sisters Paris Spaghette.

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>That's way harder than people were, like, no one knows

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about, Like the restaurants.

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:25.359
<v Speaker 3>I think it's like that's very New York, right or.

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Like but don't you think we're not doing like you know,

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Baltazar and the odeon, like you have a bump pen

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 2>in Boston.

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:38.919
<v Speaker 3>Like Boston is another major metrical and to answer question,

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 3>I guess.

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Mall and airport places like we're not you know, we're

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 2>not doing like actually like a French restaurant.

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, Okay, I have to ask this question. Please.

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>The the thing with the game night Ever since childhood,

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I have you know, fantasized of course about sort of

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>a oh we're playing strip poker.

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, playing like I'm glad you brought up strip.

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you think like lgbt's across this great nation would

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>be embracing sort of strip gameplay, and yet never in

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>my life has this come about.

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, sometimes I do find like I feel like once

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 3>you get into your thirties year start of like you're

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 3>starting to like cross back into like now that's not

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 3>appropriate anymore. Yeah, but I will find in like be

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 3>in like full queer friend groups. Sometimes this is getting older.

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.360
<v Speaker 3>But like sometimes I go, oh, this is getting a

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 3>little scary. How comfortable we're getting, Like this is actually

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 3>getting a little scary. How come everyone can't kiss or

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 3>some things because it can slow down, you know. I

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 3>find myself getting more like kind of normy. But then

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.760
<v Speaker 3>if you take it, but I've come full circle because

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 3>when I was in say like middle school or something,

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 3>if I was at a party very rarely where people

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 3>were playing Spin the Bottle or whatever, I was panicking.

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 2>No, for sure, my first kiss was spin the model.

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.479
<v Speaker 3>And many is I think that's kind of so cute

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 3>and romantic.

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Now I agree.

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 3>At the time, I was like I can't be that,

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 3>but like I know then I didn't get kiss. I

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 3>was fifteen, so that's it's like jump in becau is

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 3>not that old. I had my chance in eighth grade, though,

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Like, eighth grade is thirteen, Yeah,

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:19.720
<v Speaker 3>I guess thirteen fourteen.

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>My first kiss was in eighth grade.

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's cool.

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 3>That's really cool.

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Mine was ninth grade. So I'm starting right between the middle, you.

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Guys, I was. I was in tenth grade. Like, that's crazy,

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Like I was.

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Starting to it social you know, you should not tell me.

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 3>People were sortingly talk to me in a different way

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 3>where I went. But I'm missing out. I'm like missing

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 3>out on something and people can tell. And that was

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.280
<v Speaker 3>getting scary. So I affixed it. But it was crazy.

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Here's my theory about strip poker and spin the model. Actually, Okay,

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 2>the straight thing is because you are so terrified of nudity, intimacy, whatever,

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 2>you have to make a game of it and you

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 2>have to like play with your own fears about it.

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Whereas the reason gay people don't play, uh, strip poker

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 2>is because they're already like making eyes that the person

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>they want to going into the other room and having sex.

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, while everyone else there's not really the necessity for it.

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it's almost like because the potential exists so much,

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Like I was not really in straight spaces, being like yeah,

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 3>I would fuck a bunch of people here, Like, no,

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't. They disgusted me kind of vibes, And so

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 3>I if I was in a room full of like

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 3>a lot of my queer friends, like I can't tell

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 3>you how many times, it's like my brain is just

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 3>putting up a boundary. If I were to think about

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 3>it for more than two seconds, I always the answer

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 3>is always.

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, totally.

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 3>Like, so, the potential for sex exists in a way

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 3>that you actually have to You can't be playing spin

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:41.240
<v Speaker 3>the model and stuff all. You can't be like making

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 3>it so easy that all of a sudden everyone's having

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 3>sex with each other.

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's crazy away, absolutely. And that's another thing is

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 3>that queer people are When food Platter made me think

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 3>of this, queer people are having legitimate sex parties.

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, we have this our house right now, We're

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>in this back house and it's gore, and we had

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 1>like a small pool gathering. We have a pool that

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 1>we only share with our way lord. It's Georgina, and

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>we had like seven gay guys over and everyone's question

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>was do you have sex parties here?

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>And it was like, wait, when did this become so normal.

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 3>They're like, would you want to host? Wouldn't you feel

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 3>comfortable hosting?

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>And now it's all I can think about. I'm like,

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>what we need to host? We need a host kind

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 1>of host.

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 3>I know. The last time I had friends go to

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 3>a sex party like in La I was, I was like,

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.399
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, like I have to get invited to that,

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.280
<v Speaker 3>like what is going on? And then when they recounted

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 3>it back to me, I said, never mind, I'm going

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 3>to sounds.

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I know, my FOMO of sex related things I'm not

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 2>interested in is at an all time high. People will

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 2>describe something I may I'll be like, that is not

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 2>for me. That is literally not my kink, that is

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 2>not my preference. Why was I not invited?

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 3>My big fear exactly, I want to be invited so

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 3>bad for my fantasy of it. But then my biggest

0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 3>fear in us in a group sex scenario is making

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 3>ever making anyone feel bad that I don't want to

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 3>have sex with them. I am to have sex with me,

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 3>but I'm like, I truly am like my biggest fear

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 3>is like I can't even be in the space because like,

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 3>what if there's someone I don't want to have sex

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 3>with them.

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 4>I have to be like like, sometimes animal brain, I

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 4>think to like almost pick someone you don't want to

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 4>have sex with, well, of course, want to have sex

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 4>with everyone except you.

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I'm like, once I, once I decide

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to have sex with that person, it's

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 1>like it's over. I can't.

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, because that makes them forbidden. You forbade, You made

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 2>them forbidden, so then that makes them hot to you?

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 3>Literally, and then why did you kind of why did

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 3>you have such a big reaction?

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Why?

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Is it because you want to have sex with them?

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, it's actually the bigness of the reaction rather than

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 2>whether it's positive or negative. It's like suddenly that person

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 2>is instilled with a certain light.

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like actually, do they make me really horri ezactly?

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 3>Because there's a lot of people that I can't even see,

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.439
<v Speaker 3>like I don't totally you know, those are the people

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:57.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm probably not gonna have sex with. But it's like

0:48:57.360 --> 0:48:59.280
<v Speaker 3>someone who I'm literally like I'm sort.

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Of like all right, well hold on, yeah.

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 3>Is it just like am I being judgmental that they're

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 3>wearing a harnessed or does that kind of turn me

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 3>on a little.

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, here's the other thing. Okay, New York orus

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>LA what this podcast is mostly about. Yeah, in New

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>York sex parties are like in some warehouse somewhere. People

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 1>in LA asking me if I host parties. It's because

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>they're all house parties.

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 2>This is why I pause said that, because I was

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 2>like refoilating my mind. I was like, to host. I

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.279
<v Speaker 2>understand that people also host in New York, but there's

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 2>something so seventy is about hosting a part in your

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 2>apartment that's so like key party or something. Yeah, yeah,

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 2>and I but I guess in LA, you just have

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 2>to go to someone's house.

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 3>The problem though, is that when I imagine that I'm imagining

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:47.719
<v Speaker 3>like we're sort of it feels that like you're at

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 3>someone's house and it feels though it is not it

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 3>feels spontaneous, because like, yeah, you can't have like you

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 3>can't have thirty people or something at your house and

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 3>not have a little consent talk and like a here

0:49:57.640 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 3>are the rules and like here's what's going on. Like

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 3>you to kind of, I guess do that, but of

0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 3>course that it almost feels like it's like, oh, you're

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 3>ruining my fantasy. Of the spontaneity, and when I had

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.919
<v Speaker 3>a friend explaining it to me, they were like, yeah,

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 3>like I went over to help set up and like

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 3>put like some like plastic and like sheets down, and

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I was sort of like.

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, not plastic.

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:19.319
<v Speaker 3>I feel like the person hosting needs to be like,

0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:20.880
<v Speaker 3>if my couch gets round, it gets ruined. I have

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 3>a lot of money for a couch, Like, I think

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 3>it just needs to We need to do what we can,

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.240
<v Speaker 3>though it is not to make.

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 2>It feel Also, I'm sorry, but putting plastic down to

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:31.399
<v Speaker 2>me reads so la.

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.720
<v Speaker 3>I know to me it reads very actually long island.

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm not quite in the same for the

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 3>same reasons, but yeah, I know. And so for that reason,

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:44.919
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm I'm out on like big queer sex

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:48.799
<v Speaker 3>parties for now. For no please don't please keep me

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:49.359
<v Speaker 3>in the loop.

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 2>Yet I sort of am like there's gonna be I'm

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna have a second wave of being interested when I'm

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 2>like forty five, and I'm going to be like this

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 2>is who I am is the new chapter of my

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:02.240
<v Speaker 2>sexual life.

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I listened to this podcast with some fifty year old

0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>woman who wrote an article about refinding her sexuality in

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 1>middle age, and I was like, Oh, that's gonna be

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 1>so me. I can't wait. It could be well, I

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like you've want I just want to find it double.

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:19.640
<v Speaker 2>You want to find a double A.

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh right, that could be generational. Yeah, I think we

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.920
<v Speaker 3>might have. We might be already done it.

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's no, that's a really good point.

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 1>It's so crazy to be one of the horniest guys

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>on earth and then be like I can't wait to

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 1>find my sexuality.

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like we might have dug around, but we

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of dug through what is left for me to discover.

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I want to bring something into the into the conversational space,

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:43.839
<v Speaker 2>which is Cards against Humanity.

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I forgot about that.

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:47.959
<v Speaker 1>I hate that you're bringing that up.

0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Because I don't think I've ever even played it.

0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:55.399
<v Speaker 2>Really, you don't have cousins or yeah, what's the deal?

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 3>We were like more of like an apples to apples

0:51:58.760 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 3>younger than you.

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 2>All.

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 3>My cousins are my age, but we're sort of too

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 3>old for Cards against Humanity. But then like, like I.

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Feel like we're the exact right age when it came

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 2>out when we were like in college, got it? Don't

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 2>you think right roughly because I am so. I guess

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:18.800
<v Speaker 2>the only reason I bring it up is because to me,

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:22.879
<v Speaker 2>it's so emblematic of the larger narrative of games being

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 2>straight or gay, where if you need straight people need

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 2>structure to be witty and random, yes, whereas a gay

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 2>person is already going to say a slur.

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 3>That's why I feel because this humanity feels so straight,

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 3>because it's like it's kind of naughty.

0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, It's kind of like it's naughty, but it was

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 2>already written down on a car that you're picking. Just

0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 2>say like the baby fell down the stairs, and then

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I know, there you go, you don't know.

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 3>And then even that becomes like such a brand of

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 3>humor that makes me like feel like such a hater.

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 3>It really makes me hate and it's so and it's

0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:00.800
<v Speaker 3>the only absolute, only exception to that is the millennial

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 3>urge to joke about nine to eleven. Like I'll let

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 3>any sort of yeah nor me kind of person throw

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 3>a nine eleven in there and'll be like, you know, like.

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Go for it, whatever, you know you love a nine

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:11.360
<v Speaker 2>to eleven.

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 3>It makes me feel closer to my peers. I think

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:16.879
<v Speaker 3>it's put like a weird way. Like I think we

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 3>do it in a really irreverent way and it's so

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 3>tired now to joke about nine to eleven. But I

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:24.279
<v Speaker 3>also think it's like I can't think too hard about it,

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:28.239
<v Speaker 3>but like, yeah, we're probably traumatized, Yeah, our childhood, you know,

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 3>to be that young and might be processing that. It's

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 3>like we're probably so traumatized that we're kind of claiming

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:34.080
<v Speaker 3>it and being like I'll be joking about this for

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 3>the rest of the life, you know. Yeah, it unites.

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Us cartians humanity. It's like I'm just realizing that, like

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>hr rules apply to most day to day like straight

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>socializing spaces, which is why there's sort of like locker

0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 1>room talk even because it's like you have to be

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:56.319
<v Speaker 1>like in a space where only like the boys are

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to like actually have a conversation.

0:53:57.719 --> 0:53:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't want to hear like someone's boyfriend, Like,

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:01.240
<v Speaker 3>do you play Cards against Humanity?

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Cards against Humanity is like strip is like intellectual strip poker.

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 2>It's like in the way that strip poker, you're like,

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.359
<v Speaker 2>this is a safe space to literally take off your

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 2>pants and show your gross tidy whities. Cards against Humanity

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like you can make a fat joke and no

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:18.640
<v Speaker 2>one's going to be mad at you, which we know

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 2>is all You've been wanting to do this all the time, And.

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 3>When you see someone get too excited, it's the same feeling.

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:25.239
<v Speaker 3>It's sort of the same thing of like play.

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 5>It cool hot, Oh my god Jesus, like you would

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:31.880
<v Speaker 5>like when you see the Glee, it's sort of like

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:35.399
<v Speaker 5>I can't possibly do this, and.

0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 3>You always know the place that's coming from. You can

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 3>always tell.

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Me it's on the cards.

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 2>There's also something that jokes. It's like I don't want

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 2>to be such a snowflake that I'm like that doctu

0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 2>are homophoic. But the Glee with which, for example, people

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>will pick an AIDS joke in Cards against Humanity, you

0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:59.319
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. It's all it's all jokes that

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 2>are like things we are technically not allowed to make

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 2>fun of because of PC culture. Yeah, but because we

0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:10.480
<v Speaker 2>are in this wreck room we can.

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I they owe like ten percent of everything they've ever

0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:20.279
<v Speaker 1>made to South Park. Yeah, because to me, it's also

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 1>just like they just took that sense of humor and

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 1>put it on cards.

0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but also South Park. Not to defend South.

0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Park, but please, I would like for you to.

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.360
<v Speaker 2>And also as someone who has recently been rewatching actually

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 2>watching Family at for the first time and really enjoying

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 2>it except for a few really, really bad moments.

0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:39.200
<v Speaker 1>This was me watching South Park last No, no, this

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:42.280
<v Speaker 1>is me watching Family Guy last night in the hotel room.

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you were not enjoying, not even.

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>A little bit.

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Really.

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I completely like they'll They'll make like the most random

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:50.560
<v Speaker 1>joke of all time.

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 3>I can't get into it either, but I do like

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 3>I do, and I haven't probably watched South Park in

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:57.840
<v Speaker 3>a goo a couple of years, but I remember, I

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.640
<v Speaker 3>at least remember having the experience, and maybe it's college

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 3>of being like their geniuses.

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I was dragging upon South Park.

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so Mark was my favorite.

0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's incredible.

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what it is south I need to try

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 2>South Park as an adult because I remember when I

0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:15.759
<v Speaker 2>was a kid and everyone would watch South Park. I

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 2>did not get it. I was like, this is too

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:23.359
<v Speaker 2>like it's almost like cringe or something like, it's it's

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 2>too awkward cringe humor, and it made me feel bad.

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Whereas Family Guy, there was something about I could grasp

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 2>onto what it was satirizing, which was like the family sitcom,

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and that gave enough context that I felt like I

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:39.399
<v Speaker 2>had something to grasp on to For me, south Mark

0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:41.160
<v Speaker 2>felt nilis I guess what I'm saying, But that's.

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Like I like it to what I do. Think they've

0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 3>changed the way that they like it evolved over time,

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:49.919
<v Speaker 3>Like I do think South Park used to be at

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 3>like in the beginning, I think it was sort of

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:54.080
<v Speaker 3>like shocking for the sake of it in a lot

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:56.759
<v Speaker 3>of ways, and then they started to like it started

0:56:56.760 --> 0:56:58.799
<v Speaker 3>to be more like commentary and get really clever, and

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 3>they were like really really smart about it in a way.

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:02.479
<v Speaker 3>We're like, damn, that's like a really good episode of

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:03.840
<v Speaker 3>a what a great.

0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:05.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, all right, I'm gonna go home and watch that.

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:07.719
<v Speaker 3>I think probably right, I.

0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Think you should. I also with family, it's hard not

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to like just be like, this is just Seth MacFarlane,

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like one egotistical man. No, it is right,

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's hard sometimes to to enjoy it.

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Seth McFarlane is such a fascinating figure in both straight

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and gay culture, don't you think because he is in

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 2>because think about great he is literally he's obsessed with

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 2>musicals and show tunes. He like put out an album

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:35.200
<v Speaker 2>of like jazz standards.

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It's got us.

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:42.000
<v Speaker 2>He's so he like what he really wants, what he

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:44.320
<v Speaker 2>really wants is to be a cabaret star. It's like

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:47.640
<v Speaker 2>how Donald Trump wants to be a like Broadway producer

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 2>and wants to produce cats, like Seth McFarlane wants to

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 2>be like in a suit with a little whats called

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 2>top thank you with a top hat and a little cane.

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean like that, that that and like hosting the

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Tony's he could today. I know, in fact he has

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 2>hosted the Oscars.

0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:07.280
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, I feel like he could do that,

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 3>like immediately to me, that's how as an outsider I perceive.

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 2>But then it's like for his mode of expressing that

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 2>to be a non PC animated comedy is so like

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.680
<v Speaker 2>taking the game and making it straight kind of.

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's even when he did host the Oscars, this

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 1>is the exact thing he made the joke about. He

0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 1>did the song the song and danced about booths, about boobs.

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, totally. And it was like, but don't you

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:34.640
<v Speaker 2>think that, No, no, I agree, and that and that

0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 2>was bad. But that is what's so fascinating. It's like

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 2>you have this gay instinct to do a show tune

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 2>about actresses and then you but then you're like, fuck,

0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I can't be gay. I'm gonna make it about their boobs.

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 3>It does seem yeah, like a kind of a weirdly

0:58:52.400 --> 0:58:56.360
<v Speaker 3>closeted Yeah, it's crazy to make it work, but also

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.440
<v Speaker 3>that could be a real person, like and it is

0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 3>because like I think it's like if I don't know,

0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand what being gay in Hollywood is like,

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:08.000
<v Speaker 3>even as a gay person in Hollywood, Like.

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 2>What is it's literally like you think you learn the

0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 2>rules and then someone will be like, by the way,

0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 2>don't come out literally truly genuinely.

0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:22.240
<v Speaker 3>I remember when I got like I kind of came

0:59:22.280 --> 0:59:24.440
<v Speaker 3>out like right before I started like getting work, and

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:26.360
<v Speaker 3>then I started getting work, and my girlfriend at the

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 3>time was sort of like right, but like obviously like

0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 3>you can't be like gay in Hollywood, and and I

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:32.080
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, like I already. I was like I

0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:33.720
<v Speaker 3>already came out, but I feel like I have sort

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:35.560
<v Speaker 3>of like really broad appeal, like I think I had

0:59:35.560 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 3>like Julie Roberts appeal. And she was like, no, like

0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 3>you no, you won't because you came out and I

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 3>was like, why wouldn't you like tell me that before

0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I came out and let me make the choice. I

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 3>think you should have brought this up to me, like

0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:50.680
<v Speaker 3>because I didn't know, So I think you should have

0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:53.000
<v Speaker 3>brought this up to me before I made the choice officially,

0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:55.760
<v Speaker 3>and maybe I would have stayed closeted and like dated

0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:59.439
<v Speaker 3>had like a beard, you know. But it's too late, So.

1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can honestly still kind of go back

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:03.080
<v Speaker 1>in people.

1:00:03.600 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, I've worked. Yeah it's happening now. Yeah, it's

1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:09.200
<v Speaker 3>happening now. Well it's been so interesting because in a

1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:11.760
<v Speaker 3>way I have and then in a way I don't

1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:15.840
<v Speaker 3>think that I have in that like, uh, my partner

1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:18.880
<v Speaker 3>is a trans guy, and so I've been doing a

1:00:18.880 --> 1:00:21.320
<v Speaker 3>lot of like my boyfriend, my boyfriend, my boyfriend, and

1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:27.280
<v Speaker 3>yet and I think I would like some credit for that.

1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:28.640
<v Speaker 3>I think I would like some.

1:00:28.720 --> 1:00:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you want some credit?

1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 3>I think I would like some credit for like she's like,

1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:32.760
<v Speaker 3>oh she is she straight?

1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:33.040
<v Speaker 2>You know?

1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:35.120
<v Speaker 3>I think I would like a little bit of like, yeah,

1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:37.720
<v Speaker 3>let's play it both ways a little bit maybe, but

1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:40.080
<v Speaker 3>when you go in that direction, it kind of feels

1:00:40.080 --> 1:00:41.920
<v Speaker 3>like it's like, well, you can't really do you know,

1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:43.200
<v Speaker 3>you can't go back?

1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, My friend Mattie has a joke that's like she

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:52.760
<v Speaker 2>first identified as by and was in a lesbian relationship

1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:56.320
<v Speaker 2>and then her partner transitioned, and the punchline of the joke,

1:00:56.360 --> 1:00:58.960
<v Speaker 2>which I'm gonna butcher, is like, you really can't escape

1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:00.760
<v Speaker 2>your fate as a bye girl to have a boyfriend,

1:01:00.840 --> 1:01:01.880
<v Speaker 2>like everything in my.

1:01:01.880 --> 1:01:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Power, you're getting one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll be getting one.

1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:08.400
<v Speaker 3>And it does and it is and it obviously still

1:01:08.400 --> 1:01:12.720
<v Speaker 3>functions really gay, but the terms I'm using, I'm sort

1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:18.800
<v Speaker 3>of found myself letting it absolutely rip with straight friends

1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:21.560
<v Speaker 3>and straight relationships just being sort of like our guys, right,

1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:24.760
<v Speaker 3>like straight girls stuff, And you can tell that they

1:01:24.920 --> 1:01:27.320
<v Speaker 3>don't see it the same way, but they don't. They

1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:30.280
<v Speaker 3>know they're not allowed to sort of be like it's

1:01:30.320 --> 1:01:33.120
<v Speaker 3>not the same, it's different like that you could tell

1:01:33.120 --> 1:01:37.680
<v Speaker 3>that they're not and I'm like, right, girls were the same,

1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:39.240
<v Speaker 3>functions the same.

1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is very like have you seen a Stepford

1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Wive's remake when Chicole Kid?

1:01:44.520 --> 1:01:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Mean, of course I have.

1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:48.400
<v Speaker 2>There's like there's one gay couple, but they're clearly like

1:01:48.400 --> 1:01:49.919
<v Speaker 2>one is the man and one as the woman. Yes,

1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and the and the like, butch one is with the

1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:53.880
<v Speaker 2>men like complaining about their wives.

1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah it is, and sometimes it is like that sometimes,

1:01:58.360 --> 1:02:01.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, sometimes it really is like that, Like I

1:02:01.120 --> 1:02:03.560
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't want even if I were like how to like

1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:05.960
<v Speaker 3>assist boyfriend, I wouldn't want a boyfriend that I could

1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:09.800
<v Speaker 3>like cueen out with or something like that would be that's.

1:02:09.840 --> 1:02:13.720
<v Speaker 2>The most like TikTok things I need to clean out,

1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:15.440
<v Speaker 2>you can clean out with.

1:02:16.680 --> 1:02:19.120
<v Speaker 3>I need I need a What are they like when

1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:22.440
<v Speaker 3>buy wife energy was a thing like yeah, I'm gonna

1:02:22.480 --> 1:02:25.919
<v Speaker 3>need that. I need like I need a bitchy boyfriend for.

1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Sure, boyfriend. It's like we were talking about there must

1:02:30.440 --> 1:02:33.320
<v Speaker 2>be women. We've already talked about this, but there must

1:02:33.360 --> 1:02:36.560
<v Speaker 2>be women who's fetish is a gay guy, and so

1:02:36.600 --> 1:02:39.160
<v Speaker 2>they make their straight boyfriends like act gay.

1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah they make them. Yeah they're making on me. Okay,

1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:46.880
<v Speaker 3>those guys are so excited. I feel like it's so

1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:49.320
<v Speaker 3>funny how like a girlfriends are such a safe space

1:02:49.360 --> 1:02:53.280
<v Speaker 3>for boyfriends to just be Like when you were like

1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I think like labels or whatever you were saying, like

1:02:55.360 --> 1:02:57.880
<v Speaker 3>labels are like whatever, they're detrimental, and it's like they

1:02:57.920 --> 1:03:03.600
<v Speaker 3>literally are. It's so crazy the way I've seen and

1:03:03.640 --> 1:03:06.200
<v Speaker 3>it's been a long time since I've had assist boyfriend,

1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:09.320
<v Speaker 3>but the unclenching that happens when they're able to sort

1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:13.480
<v Speaker 3>of like really a couple months in be this genderless

1:03:13.520 --> 1:03:15.440
<v Speaker 3>thing that assist man becomes when he has a long

1:03:15.520 --> 1:03:16.640
<v Speaker 3>term girlfriend that loves him.

1:03:16.720 --> 1:03:19.960
<v Speaker 1>This is so interesting. I've never considered this in my life.

1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I've never thought about the metamorphosis of a man in

1:03:23.640 --> 1:03:24.439
<v Speaker 1>a relationship with a woman.

1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Is it is?

1:03:26.560 --> 1:03:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like essentially like when a gay guy has

1:03:28.880 --> 1:03:29.520
<v Speaker 1>an older sister.

1:03:30.760 --> 1:03:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, yeah, straight man having a girlfriend is

1:03:35.320 --> 1:03:36.720
<v Speaker 2>like gay men having an older sister.

1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:39.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it brings out a beautiful side of them. It

1:03:39.600 --> 1:03:42.080
<v Speaker 3>brings out something really, really beautiful and gorgeous.

1:03:42.080 --> 1:03:46.400
<v Speaker 2>It's so interesting because the conventional narrative is like men

1:03:46.840 --> 1:03:52.200
<v Speaker 2>almost it's like having a girlfriend or a wife firms

1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:56.280
<v Speaker 2>their masculinity. That's the conventional narrative. So and that's why

1:03:56.400 --> 1:03:58.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, quote unquote in cells are so unhappy because

1:03:58.680 --> 1:04:01.120
<v Speaker 2>they have nowhere for their masculinity to go. But you're

1:04:01.160 --> 1:04:05.120
<v Speaker 2>actually and here I'm looking for a word you are

1:04:05.480 --> 1:04:11.560
<v Speaker 2>interrogating that like, oh wow, by saying no, a straight

1:04:11.640 --> 1:04:14.080
<v Speaker 2>man having a girlfriend or wife actually allows him to

1:04:15.000 --> 1:04:19.400
<v Speaker 2>put to become genderless. Yes, yes, and that and that's

1:04:19.400 --> 1:04:22.760
<v Speaker 2>why in cells are more masculine. They need someone, they

1:04:22.760 --> 1:04:24.360
<v Speaker 2>need somewhere to put their masculinity.

1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:26.920
<v Speaker 3>It depends on what you think masculinity means totally. Oh,

1:04:27.920 --> 1:04:30.760
<v Speaker 3>I always think of like as someone who you know

1:04:30.840 --> 1:04:34.280
<v Speaker 3>has had experience like to me, yeah, I think that's

1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:36.480
<v Speaker 3>really true. I think of like, obviously, gay guys are

1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:38.480
<v Speaker 3>like the most masculine because I think that you're being

1:04:38.520 --> 1:04:43.440
<v Speaker 3>really honest about, uh, your desire for like a partner

1:04:43.520 --> 1:04:46.120
<v Speaker 3>who is masculine, like a masculinity a partner, which I

1:04:46.160 --> 1:04:48.320
<v Speaker 3>do think a lot of straight guys want or are

1:04:48.360 --> 1:04:51.120
<v Speaker 3>attracted to masculinity. Sure, it's I think a lot of people.

1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:54.360
<v Speaker 3>I think, like, obviously, because of the patriarchy like society,

1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:57.360
<v Speaker 3>we're all attracted masculinity. Everybody is gay, people like all

1:04:57.400 --> 1:05:00.240
<v Speaker 3>like lesbian's everybody like to some degree is And so

1:05:01.280 --> 1:05:02.800
<v Speaker 3>you are kind of like I think it's like so

1:05:02.920 --> 1:05:04.440
<v Speaker 3>honest to be like, I'm a guy who wants a

1:05:04.440 --> 1:05:07.480
<v Speaker 3>guy like that's as masculine as you can get. And

1:05:07.520 --> 1:05:09.280
<v Speaker 3>then it's sort of like, yeah, if you're you're what

1:05:09.280 --> 1:05:10.440
<v Speaker 3>do you mean you're dating a woman?

1:05:11.000 --> 1:05:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, what do you mean? What do you mean?

1:05:15.040 --> 1:05:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Like you're like you're what do you mean you're using

1:05:17.080 --> 1:05:20.960
<v Speaker 3>her shower products? I don't know. I'm like always, I

1:05:20.960 --> 1:05:23.080
<v Speaker 3>think I've never had a boyfriend who wasn't excited to

1:05:23.120 --> 1:05:24.640
<v Speaker 3>do like girly things with me.

1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1:05:25.480 --> 1:05:27.600
<v Speaker 3>And to admit also to admit that you love a

1:05:27.600 --> 1:05:30.000
<v Speaker 3>woman is like, That's why I'm like always, like fem

1:05:30.080 --> 1:05:33.240
<v Speaker 3>for fem relationships really blow my mind, Like you're.

1:05:33.600 --> 1:05:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Powerful and that is really powerful.

1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:38.560
<v Speaker 3>That's so powerful. I really wish I could be at

1:05:38.560 --> 1:05:40.480
<v Speaker 3>a fem for firm relationship and it's just never naturally

1:05:40.520 --> 1:05:44.320
<v Speaker 3>really found me. Oh really yeah yeah, I think it

1:05:44.360 --> 1:05:47.520
<v Speaker 3>was just really common. It's like a very rare type

1:05:47.560 --> 1:05:50.680
<v Speaker 3>of lesbian you know, to do that.

1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, then why are they all over my TV screen?

1:05:53.120 --> 1:05:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Can I?

1:05:53.760 --> 1:05:54.800
<v Speaker 2>You know it's so interesting?

1:05:55.200 --> 1:05:56.640
<v Speaker 1>If it's so rare, then why is that the one

1:05:56.680 --> 1:05:57.120
<v Speaker 1>in films?

1:05:57.280 --> 1:05:59.200
<v Speaker 3>You wait a minute, it's a good cue.

1:06:00.720 --> 1:06:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, hear me out, go with me on this. There's

1:06:03.640 --> 1:06:06.320
<v Speaker 2>this horseshoe theory where it's like fem for frem relationships

1:06:06.720 --> 1:06:11.720
<v Speaker 2>are both the male fantasy of like two chicks making out,

1:06:12.520 --> 1:06:18.960
<v Speaker 2>but then also horseshoe around the most empowered Yes women yes,

1:06:19.120 --> 1:06:21.960
<v Speaker 2>who are like we are forms that we are rejecting

1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:23.520
<v Speaker 2>all masculine, but.

1:06:23.480 --> 1:06:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Also sort of like the male fantasy of that is

1:06:25.400 --> 1:06:28.880
<v Speaker 3>like two straight feminas, right, like two women who are

1:06:28.880 --> 1:06:32.160
<v Speaker 3>doing the very sort of like a male gayzy sort

1:06:32.160 --> 1:06:35.360
<v Speaker 3>of like whatever fem for fem in lesbian terms is

1:06:35.360 --> 1:06:36.800
<v Speaker 3>like you have to think chapel roone, you have to

1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:37.400
<v Speaker 3>think like a girl.

1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:39.360
<v Speaker 2>With a for them don't exist.

1:06:39.440 --> 1:06:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, And it's like it's very much. It's it

1:06:41.960 --> 1:06:44.320
<v Speaker 3>also is that full circle thing of now we're doing

1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:46.960
<v Speaker 3>like it's almost like when I think like high femme lesbian,

1:06:47.040 --> 1:06:49.520
<v Speaker 3>it's a it's like drag a little. It's a little

1:06:49.640 --> 1:06:53.720
<v Speaker 3>drag and you can it's also very clockable like a

1:06:54.360 --> 1:06:58.080
<v Speaker 3>very fem gay woman. You can tell, you know, because

1:06:58.080 --> 1:07:00.640
<v Speaker 3>there's almost because there's something about straight men where they

1:07:00.640 --> 1:07:02.920
<v Speaker 3>go not too much, don't too too much, you know,

1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:05.000
<v Speaker 3>so when you see too much, you go that's for

1:07:05.080 --> 1:07:08.120
<v Speaker 3>a girl. That's they're looking. They're looking to trap a girl.

1:07:08.520 --> 1:07:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, men, it's more sweatpants, hair tied.

1:07:12.840 --> 1:07:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Chill, no makeup on, because they're very men, straight men,

1:07:16.880 --> 1:07:19.040
<v Speaker 3>and they live in a straight men live in a

1:07:19.160 --> 1:07:23.080
<v Speaker 3>scary world where girls are constantly trying to trick them

1:07:23.080 --> 1:07:25.640
<v Speaker 3>and trap them. It's crazy, they are trying to trick

1:07:25.680 --> 1:07:28.680
<v Speaker 3>and trap those guys. Make up? Who did that? Who

1:07:28.760 --> 1:07:33.440
<v Speaker 3>invented that? Absolute ruse? I used to be really.

1:07:34.840 --> 1:07:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1:07:35.200 --> 1:07:36.919
<v Speaker 3>I went through a phase where I loved to watch

1:07:36.960 --> 1:07:40.240
<v Speaker 3>YouTube videos by like old men talking about how not

1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:42.160
<v Speaker 3>to get tricked in the Philippines.

1:07:42.520 --> 1:07:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Whoa?

1:07:43.080 --> 1:07:45.040
<v Speaker 3>And it was very much like what do you mean

1:07:45.080 --> 1:07:47.400
<v Speaker 3>trick toney? What do you what are you doing over there?

1:07:47.480 --> 1:07:49.640
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Like, what do you mean tricked?

1:07:50.000 --> 1:07:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Like you're like to do like weird sexual tourism and

1:07:53.560 --> 1:07:56.640
<v Speaker 3>then just be like she doesn't necessarily love you. It's

1:07:56.680 --> 1:07:59.680
<v Speaker 3>very like ninety day not ninety yeah, ninety fiance or

1:07:59.680 --> 1:08:01.680
<v Speaker 3>something where it's kind of like you looked for something,

1:08:01.720 --> 1:08:04.680
<v Speaker 3>you found it, and then you're like mad when it's

1:08:04.720 --> 1:08:05.640
<v Speaker 3>transactional and.

1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:07.960
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like whoa, it.

1:08:08.000 --> 1:08:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Is what it is. But I love guys, and I

1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:11.640
<v Speaker 3>love guys too.

1:08:11.880 --> 1:08:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I love guys, and I actually think we need to

1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:16.000
<v Speaker 2>have a conversation about masculinity in this country.

1:08:17.280 --> 1:08:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, should we do our final segment? Yeah?

1:08:20.200 --> 1:08:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Any final thoughts on game night?

1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I could have been a game night. How I feel

1:08:24.400 --> 1:08:26.400
<v Speaker 3>about sex parties where it's like I'll probably say no,

1:08:26.479 --> 1:08:28.040
<v Speaker 3>but I would like to be in Like Kempton, I

1:08:28.080 --> 1:08:28.400
<v Speaker 3>feel the.

1:08:28.360 --> 1:08:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Same way, and I will say yes one out of

1:08:30.080 --> 1:08:31.120
<v Speaker 2>every twelve times.

1:08:31.439 --> 1:08:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll be like, who's going to be there?

1:08:33.720 --> 1:08:36.439
<v Speaker 1>If like the dinner party leading up to the game

1:08:36.640 --> 1:08:37.920
<v Speaker 1>is really fun, I'll do it.

1:08:38.840 --> 1:08:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh, they're feeding you sometimes. Oh, sometimes I have to

1:08:43.040 --> 1:08:45.080
<v Speaker 3>get married. It's like a whole different world.

1:08:46.200 --> 1:08:47.120
<v Speaker 2>No, you gotta try it.

1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:49.519
<v Speaker 1>I probably don't have a single game in my house.

1:08:50.600 --> 1:08:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think if I do. I don't think

1:08:52.760 --> 1:08:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I do either. We did it? You have one?

1:08:56.520 --> 1:08:58.439
<v Speaker 3>Well in La? Yeah, because I live with the games.

1:08:58.479 --> 1:08:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Girl rare.

1:09:00.000 --> 1:09:01.760
<v Speaker 3>It's not your fault. If you're not, it's not And

1:09:01.760 --> 1:09:04.120
<v Speaker 3>we're never touching them. I'll be honest. Yeah, you know,

1:09:04.160 --> 1:09:06.120
<v Speaker 3>we got one pack of cards we're using and that's

1:09:06.160 --> 1:09:06.840
<v Speaker 3>pretty much it.

1:09:07.200 --> 1:09:08.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a little more fun.

1:09:08.120 --> 1:09:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Soshi go, Yeah, Soshi, I played, I've played.

1:09:17.520 --> 1:09:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Our final segment is called shout outs, and we pay

1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:23.280
<v Speaker 1>homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio shout out,

1:09:23.479 --> 1:09:25.639
<v Speaker 1>shouting out to anything that we are enjoying. People place

1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:30.040
<v Speaker 1>those things ideas, we make them up on the spot. George,

1:09:30.040 --> 1:09:30.679
<v Speaker 1>do you have one?

1:09:30.840 --> 1:09:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you kick us off.

1:09:34.280 --> 1:09:36.720
<v Speaker 2>What's up, cinephiles and the letterbox users. I want to

1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:39.960
<v Speaker 2>give a shout out to the film Happiness by Todd Salons,

1:09:39.960 --> 1:09:42.200
<v Speaker 2>which I had never seen before in my life. And

1:09:42.960 --> 1:09:47.200
<v Speaker 2>there's a new four K restoration and it was playing,

1:09:47.200 --> 1:09:48.679
<v Speaker 2>and there was a Q and A with Todd Salons,

1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:53.640
<v Speaker 2>who is a kooky guy afterwards and whatever happened to

1:09:53.680 --> 1:09:58.439
<v Speaker 2>Laura Flamboyle, Whatever happened to Laura Flamboyle talk about talk

1:09:58.479 --> 1:10:02.320
<v Speaker 2>about how women with long black hair like her guests

1:10:02.840 --> 1:10:04.800
<v Speaker 2>are persecuted.

1:10:05.160 --> 1:10:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'll say, maybe where is she?

1:10:07.880 --> 1:10:08.599
<v Speaker 1>Where is she?

1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:11.519
<v Speaker 2>She is one of the great actresses of her generation.

1:10:12.360 --> 1:10:15.439
<v Speaker 2>She and she's competing with some of the greats in

1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:17.759
<v Speaker 2>that movie, and she's holding her own. She's so funny,

1:10:17.800 --> 1:10:21.559
<v Speaker 2>she lands every punchline. It is a masterpiece. Beginning to end.

1:10:22.800 --> 1:10:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Tot Salons cannot get any funding rate now, and yes,

1:10:25.720 --> 1:10:27.960
<v Speaker 2>partly that's because he's kind of a crazy character, but

1:10:28.000 --> 1:10:30.759
<v Speaker 2>it's also because our industry is dying and we actually

1:10:30.760 --> 1:10:33.040
<v Speaker 2>need to rebuild it from the bottom up, and we

1:10:33.080 --> 1:10:34.880
<v Speaker 2>need to bring back Laura Fla and Boil and she

1:10:34.920 --> 1:10:37.919
<v Speaker 2>needs to be in a new film written and directed

1:10:37.960 --> 1:10:42.760
<v Speaker 2>by a kind of crazy mail outeur. And that is

1:10:42.800 --> 1:10:43.799
<v Speaker 2>my final request.

1:10:44.360 --> 1:10:45.280
<v Speaker 3>I would love to see that.

1:10:45.320 --> 1:10:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see it as well.

1:10:46.439 --> 1:10:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen Happiness?

1:10:47.439 --> 1:10:47.599
<v Speaker 1>No?

1:10:48.200 --> 1:10:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Have you No? It's like crazy.

1:10:52.240 --> 1:10:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Do you know the I just heard someone talking about

1:10:54.880 --> 1:10:55.200
<v Speaker 3>this too.

1:10:55.360 --> 1:10:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's like back in theaters. Yes, it's from like

1:10:58.360 --> 1:11:00.559
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight, but it's like one of the early

1:11:00.600 --> 1:11:05.120
<v Speaker 2>phillipsy Moore Hawkmann performances. Dylan Baker is in it and

1:11:05.160 --> 1:11:06.880
<v Speaker 2>he plays.

1:11:06.720 --> 1:11:09.720
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Okay, someone was just talking about that, Yes, he says, Okay,

1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I know, and no one had mentioned Laura Flinn.

1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Will doesn't get the respect.

1:11:15.000 --> 1:11:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes ahead, okay, what's ups and perverts around the globe?

1:11:21.439 --> 1:11:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I want to give a huge shout.

1:11:22.880 --> 1:11:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Out to having a plane tradition, a tradition for when

1:11:26.960 --> 1:11:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you're on an airplane. For me, I have been for

1:11:30.000 --> 1:11:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the last few years every time on an airplane, I'm

1:11:32.800 --> 1:11:35.840
<v Speaker 1>watching Curb Your Enthusiasm. I have never seen Curby your

1:11:35.920 --> 1:11:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Enthusiasm on land. I only see it in the air,

1:11:39.200 --> 1:11:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and now it brings up like a memory of all

1:11:42.280 --> 1:11:44.720
<v Speaker 1>the other times I've traveled, because it's something I do

1:11:44.800 --> 1:11:46.920
<v Speaker 1>every time I want an airplane. I don't know who's

1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:48.920
<v Speaker 1>in charge of putting on different seasons of curby your

1:11:48.960 --> 1:11:51.599
<v Speaker 1>enthusiasm on the planes, but they deserve a raise because

1:11:51.640 --> 1:11:54.000
<v Speaker 1>every time I want a plane, Season four, season six,

1:11:54.080 --> 1:11:57.719
<v Speaker 1>he's dead. It's completely random how they decide what season

1:11:57.760 --> 1:11:59.680
<v Speaker 1>is on at any given time, and yet I've never

1:11:59.720 --> 1:12:04.320
<v Speaker 1>seen the same episode twice. I'm jumping through time. It's

1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:07.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the most It's so comforting to watch on

1:12:07.120 --> 1:12:10.519
<v Speaker 1>a plane. I think due to you're just sort of

1:12:10.560 --> 1:12:13.200
<v Speaker 1>like in a space of discomfort anyways, You're like, okay,

1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:15.000
<v Speaker 1>why not just lean into it and be kind of

1:12:15.000 --> 1:12:19.160
<v Speaker 1>cranky with with layer And I think, whatever your plane

1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:21.880
<v Speaker 1>tradition is, you need to find for yourself. But this,

1:12:22.000 --> 1:12:24.479
<v Speaker 1>for me, I start watching to enthusiasm. I say, I'm

1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:27.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna be okay, I'm on a plane. I love it. Wow.

1:12:27.400 --> 1:12:29.000
<v Speaker 3>And that's not a feeling a lot of people are

1:12:29.040 --> 1:12:30.280
<v Speaker 3>having on the plane.

1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:32.160
<v Speaker 2>No, per the door is.

1:12:32.160 --> 1:12:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Falling off, all the doors and the explosions and whatnot.

1:12:35.120 --> 1:12:37.839
<v Speaker 1>For that type of stuff which is rampant.

1:12:38.200 --> 1:12:41.479
<v Speaker 3>Don't watch the recent season of the rehearsal if you're

1:12:41.520 --> 1:12:42.400
<v Speaker 3>getting on a plane.

1:12:42.520 --> 1:12:44.439
<v Speaker 2>It actually did make me afraid of landing.

1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:47.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, and we won't get into it too much,

1:12:47.680 --> 1:12:50.519
<v Speaker 3>but the re enactments where you see the plane like

1:12:51.120 --> 1:12:54.880
<v Speaker 3>land incorrectly and immediately burst into flames.

1:12:54.680 --> 1:12:56.160
<v Speaker 1>It's very scary.

1:12:56.600 --> 1:12:57.960
<v Speaker 3>The first time I got on a plane after watching

1:12:57.960 --> 1:13:00.080
<v Speaker 3>the first couple episodes, when as we were landing, I

1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:01.800
<v Speaker 3>just my brain automatically filled it in with like and

1:13:01.800 --> 1:13:02.919
<v Speaker 3>then we catch on fire.

1:13:03.280 --> 1:13:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm also just like I cannot my brain tries to imagine,

1:13:07.720 --> 1:13:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm like, okay, maybe if I like, uh, you know,

1:13:10.160 --> 1:13:12.080
<v Speaker 1>think about what it would be like to be on fire,

1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:14.519
<v Speaker 1>I can like get used to the idea and no,

1:13:14.880 --> 1:13:18.280
<v Speaker 1>what would this look like? Like like I'm on fire

1:13:18.320 --> 1:13:21.599
<v Speaker 1>and I'm wearing headphones, what are they melting?

1:13:21.680 --> 1:13:23.280
<v Speaker 3>And you're watching curbs sort of Oh my god.

1:13:23.200 --> 1:13:26.400
<v Speaker 2>They're melting into your head ill It's like it's crazy. Yeah,

1:13:26.520 --> 1:13:27.479
<v Speaker 2>I better die fast.

1:13:27.640 --> 1:13:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you do.

1:13:28.520 --> 1:13:29.320
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think you wait.

1:13:29.360 --> 1:13:31.960
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of iconic in a sort of like a

1:13:31.960 --> 1:13:35.479
<v Speaker 3>beetlejuice or I'm like a deeper color, like a wrist

1:13:35.520 --> 1:13:37.880
<v Speaker 3>cutter sort of way. A movie where that you see

1:13:37.880 --> 1:13:39.759
<v Speaker 3>how people died, like you would have your.

1:13:39.840 --> 1:13:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Very final destination. Yes, like you know when they die.

1:13:43.840 --> 1:13:46.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, when they die in the Cutters reference.

1:13:47.240 --> 1:13:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, not not a lot of people referencing listcutters,

1:13:50.040 --> 1:13:52.519
<v Speaker 3>but it's it's one of it's part of the cannon

1:13:52.600 --> 1:13:57.040
<v Speaker 3>of movies or shout out, hey, shout out to movies

1:13:57.080 --> 1:13:59.760
<v Speaker 3>where they have that take place in the afterlife at

1:13:59.800 --> 1:14:02.479
<v Speaker 3>least partially and you can see how the person died.

1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:08.800
<v Speaker 3>The sixth sense, the Beetlejuice Movies, Risk Cutters a love

1:14:08.840 --> 1:14:12.519
<v Speaker 3>story full title. It's one I recommend a lot. I

1:14:12.560 --> 1:14:14.200
<v Speaker 3>haven't seen it in years. I hope it's good, but

1:14:14.240 --> 1:14:15.519
<v Speaker 3>I think it's probably really good.

1:14:15.680 --> 1:14:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Probably.

1:14:16.160 --> 1:14:18.360
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a really good, really clever, cute movie

1:14:18.600 --> 1:14:19.720
<v Speaker 3>for something that's pretty dark.

1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Actually yeah, well wow, so many film, film and television recks.

1:14:24.400 --> 1:14:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Of course. No, there's like a specific era of indie

1:14:28.960 --> 1:14:30.719
<v Speaker 1>movie that it's just like when I was in college,

1:14:30.720 --> 1:14:32.960
<v Speaker 1>so I was watching indie movies, yes, where I'm like,

1:14:33.320 --> 1:14:35.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, there's only ten indie movies. It's like, no,

1:14:35.520 --> 1:14:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it's just the ten that we're.

1:14:36.920 --> 1:14:38.840
<v Speaker 3>At that month two year period and it's a little

1:14:39.040 --> 1:14:41.800
<v Speaker 3>if I recall, it's a little twee, you know, there's

1:14:41.800 --> 1:14:43.559
<v Speaker 3>a sure, it's a bit, it's a tad.

1:14:43.760 --> 1:14:45.519
<v Speaker 1>If you like Risk Cutters a love story, you may

1:14:45.560 --> 1:14:49.720
<v Speaker 1>have tickets to the Mumford and Son The Power that

1:14:49.760 --> 1:14:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I've seen I'm in twenty eleven.

1:14:51.360 --> 1:14:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hower that Juno and little Miss Sunshine have over

1:14:55.439 --> 1:14:59.599
<v Speaker 2>are exact demographic. No, it's crazy, Yeah, because Elliott Page

1:14:59.640 --> 1:15:02.600
<v Speaker 2>is like a like I especially in you Are he

1:15:02.680 --> 1:15:05.320
<v Speaker 2>lives in the West Side, and it's like you have

1:15:05.439 --> 1:15:07.280
<v Speaker 2>no well, actually he probably does have an idea of

1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:08.840
<v Speaker 2>people probably come up to him all the time. But

1:15:08.880 --> 1:15:11.479
<v Speaker 2>it's like Juno changed the game.

1:15:11.920 --> 1:15:13.840
<v Speaker 1>It did a huge way.

1:15:14.080 --> 1:15:17.519
<v Speaker 3>It did. It also was a lately I've been coming

1:15:17.520 --> 1:15:19.519
<v Speaker 3>back around like there was that first wave of sort

1:15:19.560 --> 1:15:22.680
<v Speaker 3>of like shame of aging about like you know, and

1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:25.280
<v Speaker 3>like of like gen Z are kind of more like

1:15:25.320 --> 1:15:28.479
<v Speaker 3>the main demographic right now, and I feel old and

1:15:28.479 --> 1:15:31.160
<v Speaker 3>our things are old. And then sometimes I'll talk to

1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:33.479
<v Speaker 3>people younger than me and it's kind of like, oh man,

1:15:33.640 --> 1:15:36.280
<v Speaker 3>it like sort of does rock to be a monniole,

1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:39.479
<v Speaker 3>Like it actually is amazing, Like one time someone was like,

1:15:39.520 --> 1:15:41.679
<v Speaker 3>you guys are so lucky you had like Britney Spears

1:15:41.760 --> 1:15:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Club era in college, or.

1:15:43.280 --> 1:15:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Like that's true, it's so true.

1:15:45.560 --> 1:15:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Like G six and stuff like like we just still

1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:51.040
<v Speaker 3>till the world is oh husha, Like there's just so

1:15:51.080 --> 1:15:54.000
<v Speaker 3>many phases of our like childhood and young adulthood, that

1:15:54.040 --> 1:15:56.640
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like God that did rule and it

1:15:56.680 --> 1:15:57.719
<v Speaker 3>was scary, but it ruled.

1:15:57.720 --> 1:16:00.439
<v Speaker 1>The worst part is I well and so soon. I

1:16:00.560 --> 1:16:03.200
<v Speaker 1>remember being in college and being like Bad Romance coming

1:16:03.240 --> 1:16:06.200
<v Speaker 1>out and being like, wow, I'm in college with bad Romance. Yeah,

1:16:06.680 --> 1:16:09.200
<v Speaker 1>like this is something that not many people get to have.

1:16:09.320 --> 1:16:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I actually felt that way about spring seeing spring Breakers

1:16:11.760 --> 1:16:15.000
<v Speaker 2>in theaters, I was like, fuck God.

1:16:15.840 --> 1:16:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Things were just for us and it felt the good.

1:16:19.560 --> 1:16:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh that was awesome. Yeah. Well, Taylor, thank you so

1:16:23.560 --> 1:16:26.559
<v Speaker 1>much for doing the podcast. Thank you for horrible at

1:16:27.479 --> 1:16:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the job of promotion. I don't know if there's any

1:16:30.040 --> 1:16:31.920
<v Speaker 1>places with any and all things?

1:16:32.120 --> 1:16:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Is there any all things? Out of the trip? Watch

1:16:34.560 --> 1:16:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Please watch Another Simple Favorite on Amazon Prime and four

1:16:39.840 --> 1:16:45.360
<v Speaker 3>seasons on Netflix and Ghosts on Hulu if you want to.

1:16:45.600 --> 1:16:49.320
<v Speaker 1>She's multiplatform trying to get on all the platforms, and.

1:16:49.280 --> 1:16:51.200
<v Speaker 2>We don't have time, but obviously off my gift to

1:16:51.200 --> 1:16:52.960
<v Speaker 2>tell us which of those is Stu? Which is Daniellen?

1:16:53.000 --> 1:16:55.679
<v Speaker 3>Which oh my god, Yeah, oh that's so hard.

1:16:55.720 --> 1:17:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, bye, okay bye podcast and now want more? Subscribe

1:17:01.600 --> 1:17:04.799
<v Speaker 2>to our Patreon for two extra episodes a month, discord

1:17:04.920 --> 1:17:08.559
<v Speaker 2>access and more by heading to patreon dot com. Slash

1:17:08.640 --> 1:17:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Stradio Lab.

1:17:09.680 --> 1:17:12.280
<v Speaker 1>And for all our visual earners, free full length video

1:17:12.280 --> 1:17:14.519
<v Speaker 1>episodes are available on our YouTube now.

1:17:14.560 --> 1:17:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Get back to Work.

1:17:15.680 --> 1:17:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Stradio Lab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

1:17:18.040 --> 1:17:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Players Network and iHeart Podcasts.

1:17:19.920 --> 1:17:22.839
<v Speaker 2>Created and hosted by George Severis and Sam Taggart.

1:17:22.880 --> 1:17:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Executive produced by Will Ferrell, Han Soni and Olivia Aguilar,

1:17:26.560 --> 1:17:30.000
<v Speaker 1>co produced by Bei Wang, Edited and engineered by Adam Avalos.

1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Artwork by Michael Failes and Matt Grub. Theme music by

1:17:33.320 --> 1:17:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Ben Kling