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Speaker 1: Podcast starts. Now, what is up everyone around the globe?

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Stradia Lab from New York City.

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Speaker 2: And I just want to say I was silencing my phone.

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Speaker 2: That's why my finger was briefly on my phone. I

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Speaker 2: wasn't quickly, you know, sending an email George.

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Speaker 1: No one's close watching our podcast. I have to be honest.

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Speaker 2: I was actually more apologizing. Interesting, interesting that you are.

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Speaker 2: You think I'm addressing our listeners. I'm actually so embodied,

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Speaker 2: and in the moment, I was just apologizing to my

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Speaker 2: two friends that are with me in the room.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm going to look at my phone to

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Speaker 1: sort of what the hell time it is?

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so that I.

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Speaker 1: Can sort of moving forward, know what time we're working

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Speaker 1: with you, so if anyone's mad, if anyone's watching, I'm

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Speaker 1: either in this room or at home. That's why I

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Speaker 1: just see my phone.

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Speaker 2: One of the most stressful things for me is it

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Speaker 2: when we were on tour, like two years ago. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: you would be like, can you keep track of the time?

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Speaker 2: And I knew that I needed to look at my

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Speaker 2: watch while we were on stage, but I could not

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Speaker 2: do it subtly. So the people in the audience looked

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Speaker 2: at me looking at my watch while performing, which I

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Speaker 2: think is like a It's like it's already rude to

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Speaker 2: do that just interpersonally, but to be a professional performer,

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Speaker 2: be on stage and fully look at your watch is

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Speaker 2: maybe legendary status.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's that bad.

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Speaker 2: You don't, okay.

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Speaker 1: I think looking at your watch is like reasonable, like

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Speaker 1: you actually know what time it is. Well, we're ripping

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Speaker 1: up there.

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Speaker 2: Looking at your watch. It's never actually rude. Sometimes you

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Speaker 2: really do just want to know what time it is,

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Speaker 2: but it has the reputation of being like, you know,

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Speaker 2: like ripping a fart or something.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like it's like yawning a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's like yawning while someone's talking, and it's kind of

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Speaker 3: like I'm not bored. I'm like literally tired. Has nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with you. Okay, you're I'm tired all the time.

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Speaker 2: That the natural, the way you entered the conversation will

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Speaker 2: be studied for millennia.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I don't even know what.

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Speaker 2: Because because we you know, our bit normally would be

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Speaker 2: to yell at you and be like it's not you know,

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Speaker 2: we haven't brought you in yet. And that would become

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Speaker 2: a whole you know, it's hilarious. People love when we yell,

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Speaker 2: like guests like yell. Love when we get combative. People

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Speaker 2: say we miss it, like you guys are being too

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Speaker 2: nice these days. You know, we have all these A

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Speaker 2: listers on and we have to get back to our

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Speaker 2: roots of sort of berating our friends. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 2: way you entered immediately contributed something seemly were the conversation.

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Speaker 2: I was like, it feels wrong to y I know,

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Speaker 2: it felt really wrong.

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Speaker 3: You can yell. I love yelling, and I don't feel

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Speaker 2: Yells at me, No, do you even yelling family?

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Speaker 3: I come from a yelling family, yelling house. I've really

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Speaker 3: had to learn that yelling is not appropriate because I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's a big deal. But then it's like

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Speaker 3: some people, like when I had when I learned about tone,

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Speaker 3: like two years ago, I was it like, really blew

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Speaker 1: What made you learn about tone?

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Speaker 3: Like meeting people from the Midwest, Yes, that'll do it.

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Speaker 3: When I moved to LA, I met people from the Midwest,

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Speaker 3: because they would be like, well, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: argue and I'd be like, I'm agreeing with you. We agree.

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Speaker 3: I'm like enjoying this conversation a lot. And I realized

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Speaker 3: that they that some yeah, or I dated someone who

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Speaker 3: I guess would yell at me a lot, but I

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Speaker 3: never noticed. And someone was like, she's yelling at you,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, I don't care. I think it's funny. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she's literally she's literally hilarious.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, are you Italian.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, she's like up in arms, like it's funny. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I would say the two people that have made me

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Speaker 2: British people they will be so passive aggressive, but it's

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Speaker 2: like in their blood they're not trying to be rude. Right.

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Speaker 2: One time, I was taking the sort of oral exam

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine that that's really hard as I'm yelling

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Speaker 3: into the microphone, that's really hard.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that happened to you. It sounds like you

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Speaker 1: were microaggressed full I was macroaggress I would say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have a hard time. I would be

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Speaker 3: thinking about that feedback, if you can even call it

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Speaker 2: I wouldas then I would I had to go into

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Speaker 2: the oral exam.

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Speaker 3: Horrible, horrible, horrifying.

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Speaker 1: I learned over the last year of working a job

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Speaker 1: that you're not allowed You're not saying rad thank you,

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Speaker 1: You're not supposed to yawn in meetings. I've learned that

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Speaker 1: people get so upset when you're yawning while they're talking

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Speaker 1: in meetings, and it's like this is boring.

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Speaker 3: Wait, but like with your normal like coat, with like

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Speaker 2: Of co workers, Yeah, with the big wigs or with

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Speaker 2: either yeah, either way, people are saying, Sam, stop yawning.

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Speaker 2: You know he actually have to do nod constantly. This

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Speaker 2: is what you have to do.

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Speaker 1: I meant, does that stop you from yawning or.

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Speaker 2: Just no, it's just it makes it makes you seem

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Speaker 2: like you're agreeing with And actually sometimes I'll see it

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Speaker 2: because people do it and it's very phony. Sometimes I'll

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Speaker 2: then when they actually speak up, it's to fully disagree

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Speaker 2: with me, but they're doing it in such a kind way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like when you're talking to someone and they

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Speaker 3: have that tick where they're mouthing the words yes with you,

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Speaker 3: I'm sort of like, I know, it seems like you're

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Speaker 2: And similarly, when someone starts nodding before you make a point,

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Speaker 2: like you'll say something like you'll be like you know

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Speaker 2: the thing is and they are already yon and you're

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Speaker 2: even if you keep nodding, I will know you're lying.

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Speaker 1: I had a friend that would literally finish every sentence

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Speaker 1: like and like would kind of get it wrong, like

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Speaker 1: can then you can respond honestly, be like, I can't

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Speaker 2: They're struggling to focus looking for a word, and someone

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Speaker 2: jumps in and they're like and they're like reifi, You're like, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm performing being like an intellectual who is looking for

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Speaker 1: If I could just pick a word, really nilly, I

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Speaker 1: would have picked a word. Willy nilly about what word?

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking hard, like I'm trying hard to grip

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Speaker 3: on my thought. Yeah, as and if you say one thing,

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Speaker 2: It's also that never that word is not going to

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Speaker 2: be provoked. It's going to be something more sophisticated than provoked.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I know the word provoke, That's what I'm

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Speaker 2: looking Insight. No, that's equally that's actually equally basic.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't believe George just said in sight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's it? But you know, like there's a group

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Speaker 2: and I think provoke and insight are two of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and they all mean some version of like one thing

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Speaker 2: think like and then they are used almost interchangeably, but

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Speaker 3: Kind of syn andyms sort of.

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Speaker 2: But not but they're not exactly symtems. Don't you think

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Speaker 2: like instigate and provoke or not. But it's like you

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Speaker 2: the word dichotomy correctly. It's like even using the word

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Speaker 3: Of my comfort it's it's a real comfort.

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Speaker 2: It's a real and I.

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Speaker 3: Have some comfort vocab words. And my mom has a

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Speaker 3: comfort vocab words. And every now and then someone be like, okay,

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Speaker 3: like you really use that word, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: Like sorry, to shake it up.

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 1: More from the world.

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Speaker 2: Perpetuate pet that's.

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Speaker 3: An important one. That sound also sort of like not condescending,

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Speaker 3: but you can sound sort of like or like kind

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Speaker 3: to propetal exactly because you're you're mostly trying not to

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Speaker 2: If you are pro perpetuation, you hate to leave. Look

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Speaker 2: in the mirror, you're literally Donald Trump, don't perpetuate.

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Speaker 1: I hate perpetuate.

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Speaker 2: I say, walk out the door on are my pet

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Speaker 2: peeves perpetuating.

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Speaker 3: Same, I'm against, but then sometimes I'm doing it.

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Speaker 1: And that's what you. Knowing that you know your superpower.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's exactly.

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Speaker 2: Perpetuating and knowing that you're perpetuating is a superpower. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's the topic. Good mind, you love to stop,

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Speaker 2: don't hate perpetually, hate perpetuate.

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Speaker 1: I have a confession though. My ear has not popped

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Speaker 1: since the airplane last night. That's tough. And this has

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Speaker 1: never happened to me in my life. It feels like

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing headphones and it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: And you've you've tried pulling, You've tried blowing, You've tried blowing.

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Speaker 1: I've not tried pulling.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I up pull the ears like themselves.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you can blow and pull the

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Speaker 3: same time. But the poll feels good. Sometimes does at

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Speaker 3: least feel.

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Speaker 2: Good to pull. It actually feels amazing. Yeah yeah, but

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Speaker 2: then it doesn't happen fully. That's the pulling is like

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Speaker 2: brief relief.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to hold it down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you have to just play. Hey, guys, welcome

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Speaker 2: to my wedding like I do. Buddy, how's it going? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Should we we should talk about what we were talking

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Speaker 1: about before.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, also please welcome tailor so much.

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Speaker 1: So, we were talking about how I'm getting gay married

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Speaker 1: this weekend.

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Speaker 2: And in fact, by the time you the listener are

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Speaker 2: listening to this, Sam will be married.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But we were talking about how there's a flood

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Speaker 1: of gay wedding which we don't know if that's is

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Speaker 1: that a trendler or are we just a different age.

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Speaker 3: I think I have no idea. I well, oh no,

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Speaker 2: That is the only time I don't I'm serious, That

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys saying my husband, I'm like, are you Republican?

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Speaker 2: But a woman saying my wife, You're like, finally I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, any second, of course I'm young, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Then I will say, you'll notice this after you get married.

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Speaker 2: You just like simply can't say my boyfriend because it's inaccurate.

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Speaker 2: You just like, can't you have to do partner or something.

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Speaker 1: It's my guy?

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Speaker 2: It would yeah, Like it feels so crazy to say

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Speaker 2: Every time people like do you not like him? I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: When I was like seven, the idea of saying my boyfriend, like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 3: Not even husband didn't even cross my mind. I was like,

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Speaker 2: Here's a question for you. You meet a woman she's

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Speaker 3: You know what am I thinking? I really think it

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Speaker 3: It's like one of the other. Yeah, my boy, it

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Speaker 2: It's a friend on your own biases and misogyny and

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Speaker 3: Don't tell anyone stuff like that. Give that to yourself.

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Speaker 1: I have obviously always wanted to ironically use the word husbar.

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Speaker 3: Like you're introducing that to me.

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Speaker 2: No, I love that that is it's one of those

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. So what type of gay person would you use?

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Speaker 1: So like a bear like visiting Dallas would be like

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Speaker 1: I had the most amazing time with the husbar in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Is your husband? Will your husband be a hus bear?

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Speaker 3: Technically not a little bear? A little bears.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because you know Sam is known for loving bears.

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Speaker 2: It's true. Okay, I would say your husband is not

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Speaker 1: No, he he he transcends category.

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Speaker 1: He's sort of a he's a larger twink. We called

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Speaker 2: Usually thank you for the elephant in the room. Is

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Speaker 1: He's hairless, okay, and he has sort of like dream

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Speaker 2: It's like teen heart throw. He really looks especially when

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Speaker 2: I'm majoring my shoulf.

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Speaker 1: Show.

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Speaker 3: Thank god, Spinster, thank god you have husband righting.

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Speaker 2: Literally i'd be undatable, but that's but he's still bigger.

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Speaker 2: So it's that combo, got it?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 3: What I don't know that there's not that's crazy. There

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, well, it's just still.

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Speaker 3: So much room to grow, right, That's so beautiful. I

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Speaker 2: Yet there is.

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Speaker 1: Like a there is. I think it's a rare. It's

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Speaker 3: And what happens sort of what I'm like, what is

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you think to be annoyed me? What? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Misha? Yeah, I was like, I'm not annoyed. He's like,

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Speaker 2: don't just perpetrate the myth that I'm annoyed. Wait, also

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Speaker 2: that perpetuating the either perpetrating the myth or the narrative.

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Speaker 2: If you're perpetuating a narrative, you should be in prison.

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Speaker 3: What else is there to perpetuate?

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Speaker 2: I think narrative, myth, perpetrating the idea. I think a

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Speaker 2: bit pedestrian, but you can do it. Ooh pedestrians, good, pedestrians,

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Speaker 2: really good? Should we do our for a segment?

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Speaker 3: I think we should, Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Our first segment is called Straight Shooters, and in this segment,

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Speaker 1: questions to gauge your familiarity with in complicity and straight culture.

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00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 1: It's basically this thing or this other thing. And the

442
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 1: only rule is you can ask any followup questions or

443
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 1: we'll scream at you, which will feel so natural to

444
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Speaker 1: you amazing.

445
00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:01,159
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you'll probably let me really motivate me. Okay, Taylor,

446
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 2: failing the capture or preparing the macha.

447
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 3: I do need to ask a question. I'm thinking what

448
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 3: straight I can't Okay, failing the.

449
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: Capture, Okay, losing the thread or making the.

450
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 3: Bed, making the bud.

451
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 2: The end is near or your uber is here?

452
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 3: Your uber is here?

453
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 1: LGBTQ or l m n O p.

454
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 2: Lgbtq being sexist or supporting Brexit, being.

455
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 1: Vivica a Fox or Smoky the Bear.

456
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 2: Fox, baked beans, ripped jeans, or Howard Dean's famous scream

457
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 2: baked beans.

458
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: False prophets or wall sockets, oh, false profits. Wow.

459
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 2: So we rate our guest performance on the scale of

460
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 2: the row to one thousand doves.

461
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 3: Okay, oh okay, yeah, yeah, I know this.

462
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: I'm like really bullish on this one. Really, yeah, please

463
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 2: lead the way. I think this is like over nine

464
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 2: hundred wow, And I have reasons. Okay here, I think

465
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: you entered the space of like sitcom level facial expressions

466
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: that I had not seen up to this point on it,

467
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: and it was you were literally being like the bitchy

468
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: sister in like not even Stevens because that's because actually

469
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: I think she could have used more facial expressions Ren Stevens, Well,

470
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 2: I would say it was more of a Chelsea on

471
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 2: That's so Rayvent type performance.

472
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: Thank you.

473
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: You're really like showing a lot with your face and

474
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,719
Speaker 2: I hope people are watching rather than listenings to get

475
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: the full experience.

476
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: Thank you. I've been told I'm very expressed.

477
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: Yes, And I actually think especially in this game, it

478
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: really worked for you, because obviously this game is us

479
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: doming our guest, Like we're the ones saying literally being like,

480
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: look at these funny rhymes we wrote, and you have

481
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 2: nothing to do, Like, all you have to do is

482
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 2: pick one that we already said. So you found yourself trapped.

483
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: You were like, how do I make this performance more impactful?

484
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: And you were like, I have to go face. I

485
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: have to go all face.

486
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a more controlling person than I want to admit,

487
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: and at the end of the day, I love to

488
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 3: over explain and when I can't, I guess I'm using

489
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 3: my face to do it. Because I started out being like,

490
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 3: what is more straight? And then I found myself kind

491
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 3: of getting kind of just letting myself get lost in

492
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 3: the game.

493
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good. You know, it's sort of about transcending

494
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 1: labels and yeah, totally just you know, being you.

495
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: I said, I have to quiet my mind for a

496
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 3: minute and just like actually pick whatever my internal needle

497
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 3: is pointing to.

498
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: And I think that to perpetrate a narrative. The narrative

499
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: of this game to me is like in real time,

500
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: realizing binaries are not good because you think it's about

501
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 2: choosing one or the other. It's actually about what facial

502
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: expression you make while speaking, like it doesn't matter which

503
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: one you choose.

504
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 3: And I don't even know what, Like obviously one of

505
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: us know what our own facial expressions look like.

506
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: That's true, Just so that's actually really scary.

507
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

508
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: I've noticed that I have such a go to that

509
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: is not something I'm proud of, and you're coaching that

510
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: I wish I could break.

511
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 2: Is I go like, that's cute?

512
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: Wait, that's cute. It makes you like a cartoon.

513
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: It's a very cartoony. And I can't stop like I.

514
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: Can do that. I don't think I can. You could

515
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: do it. I can't do that.

516
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: You can't do a sad face. Oh yeah, that's good.

517
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: You look like him when she's playing the base.

518
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: That it feels like, I know, I think I'm I'm

519
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: doing I'm pushing it too much.

520
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, what if that was your if your

521
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: default expression was stim that would be tough. Do you

522
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 2: ever think she tried to change I actually think it's

523
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: the opposite. I think she thinks she's so. First of all,

524
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 2: we love him and want them to come on the podcast.

525
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: I just want to make that clear.

526
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: Let's start there.

527
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: But no, I actually think, as we've said before, she's

528
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: a comedian at heart, and I think she loves that.

529
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: She's the funny one.

530
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 3: I saw it recently. I saw the basepace recently and

531
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: I said, oh, she's leaned into it.

532
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: Yes, well, the venues have gotten larger, so you have

533
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: to project.

534
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, the smile has to be truly, like from

535
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: ear to ear. She's she's like the movie smile. Oh

536
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: my god, they should do the movie smile, but instead

537
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: of the smile, it's behind space face.

538
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: And everyone.

539
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the Heims sisters generally?

540
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I this is really I when I first heard them,

541
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: I saw it was meeeing them live. They were opening

542
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: This is twenty eleven. I think they were opening four

543
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 3: Mumford and Sons. And I paid ticket holder to that event.

544
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: You know what, whatever, the songs were good, I don't care.

545
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: And calling yourself a paid ticket holder makes it seem

546
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: like you were paid to go there.

547
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were. You were a crisis actor.

548
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: I found it on the Craigslist. They were like, please

549
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 3: need people to come to this Philly Mumfort and Suns show.

550
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: No.

551
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: I was so excited to go.

552
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

553
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 3: I was twenty eleven or twenty twelve, and I was like,

554
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: who are these girls playing all these drums?

555
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: Yes, the drums were because I saw them in like

556
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: probably after You unfortunately, but like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen

557
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: and the drum break. Yes, I was like, these girls are.

558
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: Going somewhere very impressive.

559
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: We have a game that no one likes where we

560
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: it's like fuck Mary kill. But it's three things and

561
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: you have to say which one is Alana, which one

562
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: is Danielle, and which one is st okay, And of

563
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: course now that I brought it up, we have to

564
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: give one.

565
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, here's okay, okakay, Yeah, regular coke, diet coke,

566
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: coke zero.

567
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: Oh fuck, that's really good okay to me. I'm just

568
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: gonna go with my gut. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm questioning it.

569
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: I think SD is obviously coke zero, and that's my

570
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 3: most obvious totally yes. And then I was kind of

571
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 3: flip flopping on these, but I do think actually that

572
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: I was going to go the other way. But I

573
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: think Danielle is regular coke. I completely agree, yes, and

574
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: then Alana is cooke cookes hera I mean die yeah,

575
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: and it's based on like not only the the product

576
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 3: itself and the reception, but also the cans. I'm basing

577
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 3: a I'm basing a little. You have to there's such

578
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 3: a such a strung.

579
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: And I actually think those three cans correspond to how

580
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: the three sisters are always dressed like a little alike

581
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: but with their own personality, Like they would if they

582
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: were soft drinks, they would literally look like that.

583
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: They would have to do it that way.

584
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, agree, like similar palate. But you know, one is

585
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 2: a short skirt, one is a pant, one is like

586
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: asymmetrical skirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Tina Knowles, Yeah, well

587
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: they're very Tina Knowles actually designs all their costumes and

588
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: of people, China knows designed that little bikini top they

589
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: were when they did the dance that everyone loved.

590
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: Yes, she was in a rush that day.

591
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: Tina wanted each of them to be different, but that

592
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: days was like, I cannot a fabric to do the

593
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: entire Renaissance tour and these fu Hims sisters.

594
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, you're just gonna match.

595
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: You're just gonna match.

596
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: Should we get into the topic, yes, yes, So tell

597
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: us what topic you've brought today?

598
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: I would today, I would like to talk about game nights.

599
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: I feel like the more gay my community has become,

600
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: my circle has become, and moving to LA it became

601
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: even like I would say, ten million times gayer. I'm

602
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: not really going to game nights anymore. I'm sort of not.

603
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: And I didn't know if that's because I was single

604
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: for a while and what it was, But I do

605
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: think it's like gay people, they're not doing game nights.

606
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: When you were going to game nights, describe it.

607
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 3: For us, it was sort of like if it was

608
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: a very much a couple's thing, okay, and it would

609
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: usually be like hosted by like a straight couple who

610
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: had like a nice apartment they lived together.

611
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: You were in a couple at the time.

612
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: At the time, I was in a couple, yet with

613
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: what gender of person with it was a lesbian relationship.

614
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: But what I will say is it was I've been

615
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: trying to describe My partner is six years younger than me,

616
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: and I've been trying to describe to them lately how

617
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 3: there were like no lesbians in New York in twenty

618
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: eighteen or whatever.

619
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: The things.

620
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: You're so no, You're literally so right.

621
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, you don't understand, Like there weren't

622
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: any lesbians. And it's like if you weren't here, you

623
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't know, but like there weren't any. So it's kind

624
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, we were going to a lot of

625
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 3: we're hanging out last week, Well so maybe like one

626
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 3: other lesbian couple, you know. And I think that that

627
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: was a time where yeah, I was going to a

628
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: lot of organized like I do think like they're like

629
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: organized hangs or very much a thing, and games happened

630
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: to be an easy way to do that.

631
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: Wow, I could do an hour. We could do an

632
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: hour on how there were no lesbians in twenty eighteen.

633
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: Well it's something where you're like I fully think that

634
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: is true. Yeah, and it's like but there's no way

635
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: to prove it.

636
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: Well you can't.

637
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: I can't prove it.

638
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Here's what you remember. This like a running joke, especially

639
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: when we were touring, was like I am always staying

640
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: with my lesbian couple of friends in every city because I,

641
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, have a lot of loves being a

642
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: couple of friends. It's like one is in Bosson, one

643
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: is in Berkeley, one was in Philly or whatever, and

644
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: I was like wait, if I was out of town,

645
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: who what lesbian couple would I stay with in New York?

646
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: There were none?

647
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, where as I mean I've said that New York

648
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: is for gay guys in Las for Leslie, it.

649
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: Is, yes, and it's it is so wild, it's so true.

650
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: And now there's like a little bit more like gen

651
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: Z has really like shaken things up finally. But when

652
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: I I when I came out, I feel like me

653
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: and like I would say, a handful of friends came

654
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: out and it felt like wow, like everyone's lesbian now

655
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: and it's so small in comparison to like even today.

656
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: And but like before before I came out, truly there

657
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: was like one couple absolutely holding it down for years.

658
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 3: There was like one lesbian couple and I really am

659
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: like what were they? And I go, what were they do?

660
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: Who are they hanging out with? George Bush? Now we know,

661
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: but we know it really is. Yeah, it was really crazy,

662
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was doing we were, Yeah, we were

663
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: hanging out with And I love my straight couple of friends.

664
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: Of course, remember like who they were, what they're up?

665
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: You know, but maybe they're all gay.

666
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: Now A huge part of your twenties is going on

667
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: group trips with straight couples.

668
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, up state, Oh MyD because that's the only place

669
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: to go.

670
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: I almost find it kind of sad because you're like,

671
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: you do want to make it work. You're like, so

672
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: we have different sexualities. Who cares?

673
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: Who cares? That's the nineties.

674
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: It's the nineties, everyone's bisexual. And then you're like, no,

675
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: it's like a it's like an inherent difference, Like the

676
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: things we want to do are so yeah.

677
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: No. You're at the trip and you're like, who cares,

678
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: and they're like, so, we're gonna make lasagna. Everyone get

679
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: in line like you do the you do the sauce,

680
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: and you're like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

681
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: And when you're a trip with gay people, it's like, yes,

682
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: people are still making lasagna, but they're also like showing

683
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: each other their tops urgery cars.

684
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: They're showing each other the top cars and also are

685
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: wildly different and poppers are being passed around at the

686
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: lasagna table when you are like passing the food from

687
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: one person or the other.

688
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: It's also like there's gonna be nudity in some compes,

689
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: and with the straight couples it's like, no, we're going

690
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: to bed.

691
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: Now, that would be oh my god, if there was,

692
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: like if there was a connudity on a straight couple

693
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: trip the way, that would be totally just so inappropriate.

694
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: I would never speak to everyone's families.

695
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: Here's what happens on a straight it's nighttime, you're watching,

696
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: you're rewatching Anchorman. Let's say someone goes, I'm going to

697
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: bed because I have to wake up early tomorrow for

698
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: a run. Yeah, I have to wake up early for

699
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: a run.

700
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: Whereas especially a gig eye trip, they are also waking

701
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: up really for a run, but you don't know how

702
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: they did it. Yeah, you're like, it is shocked so

703
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: much to drink.

704
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: And I don't like that that when that's happening either.

705
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: It's like really scary.

706
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: I don't support that either. I but agree, I think

707
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: it's like and also it's like, is there even I

708
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: take back what I said about lasagna. I don't know

709
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: that there's dinner.

710
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, or it's like really minimal tacos, like one piece

711
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: of tempe on a tortilla.

712
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: Yes, a cabbage salad, cabbage salad.

713
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what kinds of games are we talking when

714
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: we talk game night?

715
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: So I do think like you had said that you

716
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: had you had spoken sort of about like tabletop games,

717
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: which I do think so I think that still happens.

718
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: I get a little I don't like having the rules

719
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: explain to me. I like to play. I'm a competitive person,

720
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: but I gotta sit through the rules. It's just kind

721
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: of like, well I ever learned this, but then more

722
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: frequently also jack box, jack box culture, jackbox games, which

723
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: I do. Here's the thing I am not this is

724
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: not coming from a critical place because if I have

725
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: to hang out with like a couple people's boyfriends, it

726
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: is sort of like there's probably gonna be maybe one

727
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: that I'm actually like vibe with. So it is kind

728
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, we need an icebreaker, totally, we need

729
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: an icebreaker.

730
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's no shame in that. Like I would

731
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: rather have the icebreaker and be like I cannot believe

732
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm playing who know mm hmm, then literally be talking

733
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: about the weather.

734
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: I even on a gay trip, I find that like

735
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: when you're on day three, it's like bring out jackbox,

736
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Like we need something to.

737
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I'm playing skip bo like all the time

738
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: with lesbians. Yeah, but we're sort of doing it like

739
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: I'm at a bar, and we're kind of like, do

740
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: we want to do around? You know, yeah, I want

741
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: to do a quick skipbo or something. But I think an

742
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: organized game night is a little bit like I'm bringing

743
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: like a little six pack and I'm we're going and

744
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: I don't really know everybody, and I'm going to We're

745
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: all going to get to know each other sort of.

746
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: And none of them are drinking games, which is fine.

747
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: Which is fine.

748
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: I actually had an experience recently where I was watching, uh,

749
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: what's Benny's show called Overcompensating. Yeah, I was watching over

750
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: Compensating and they were playing some either flip Cup or

751
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: beer Pung or something. And I really shocked myself because

752
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: I was like legitimate. I was like I want to

753
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, oh I crave it. So I was like, wait,

754
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: I love flip Cup.

755
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

756
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: Did you play it in college? Yeah?

757
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

758
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, I want to do That's so bad.

759
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: There are other things that are like triggering because they

760
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 2: remind me of just like where I was at at

761
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: twenty one or nineteen or whatever. But for whatever reason,

762
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: I really have only positive associations with drinking games, such.

763
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: Positive sociations with both flip Cup and beer pong. Yeah,

764
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: and it should be triggering, it should be like yeah,

765
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: And I.

766
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: Was so like, actually, yeah, it's a bad time in

767
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 3: our lives.

768
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

769
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: I did really like the games.

770
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: Well so far.

771
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: Usually too, it's sort of like, oh, what party is

772
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: going on? Not everybody has to play the game. I

773
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: don't like, we have to play the game.

774
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: I agree. You know what else, that's so true.

775
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: You know some people are kind of playing a little

776
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: flip cups, So people are having a conversation over here,

777
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 3: some people are you know. That feels nice to me.

778
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: It has the air of sports without you having to

779
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: actually be athletic. And I actually think you would think, oh,

780
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: drink games are so straight at so Freddy, here's the thing,

781
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: I'm just as good at flip cup as a football player. Right.

782
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: How many things can I say that about that are

783
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: like masculine seeming.

784
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: Totally well and similar. Really, there's something. The fondness I

785
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: have for it is because I was like friends with

786
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: the Brouses, like say.

787
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: For that like half hour game recognized game. Yeah yeah,

788
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: and they would maybe put their arm around you like

789
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: this and be like my guy, oh it's all I

790
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: ever wanted.

791
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: We were sort of having different I think experience.

792
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then you and then we would

793
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: flip Yeah.

794
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: I guess it is kind of like flirty to be

795
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: like like we're playing flip cup together, like we're playing

796
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: like or like I don't know how to how do

797
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: you play this?

798
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm such a totally hideous or something. I think

799
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: part of the board game thing is there's a built

800
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: in like safety, like it's sort of like this night

801
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: will only get so crazy, like yeah, I kind of

802
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: like this is something I struggle with with Los Angeles. Yes,

803
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: this podcast is half about where every night, like before

804
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: you even get there, you know what the end time is.

805
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: Eleven, Yeah, it's eleven.

806
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: And literally clear like and so that's sort of why

807
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: people are like, well, why would I even go because

808
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: I know it's going to end.

809
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: It eleven attending at eleven.

810
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so like a BOYD game is that all

811
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: the time where it's like this is going to be

812
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: a structured two hours, yeah, and then we're going to

813
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: go home. And I hate knowing.

814
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: That I live with in LA with a friend who

815
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: is and I know she tries to play a cool game,

816
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: a little game obsessed, and definitely I would say competition obsessed,

817
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 3: you know, And so people don't know. But when she

818
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: brings out a game, I see that glint in her

819
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: eye that she's barely containing sort of an incredibly competitive spirit,

820
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: and I do not I don't mind when she pulls

821
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: out a game. I will say, though, that one time

822
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: we were here in New York, which she has ever

823
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: lived here, she was like a Chicago person who moved

824
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: to La. Everything's ending really early, okay, But this girl

825
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: has the spirit to absolutely persevere through days and days

826
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: and days no sleep, okay. The most active person I've

827
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: ever met. And so when we would come to New

828
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: York on these little short trips, it was like we

829
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: were to like six in the morning. I went, I

830
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: didn't do that when I lived here. I don't need

831
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: to be out that late, you know. And we were

832
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: up one day at a friend's house and it was

833
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: four am, and I was like, it's time to go

834
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: to pack it up, and She's like, let's do one

835
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: quick quick ground of anomia. No okay, And we did.

836
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: Everyone was down for it, and listen, I got my

837
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: head in the game. I got into it. We played

838
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: a little bit. I was sort of like, that's so

839
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: bold to bring out a game at four am and

840
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 3: and to have the like her influence, to have the

841
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: influence and this sway to get people to agree with

842
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: that no question that people.

843
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: Went, yeah, I mean that is shocking.

844
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a very persuasive person.

845
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: I can tell. But I'm sort of like that that

846
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: to me reads more gay. I'm like, she's gay. Yeah,

847
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: like that. It's like, folks, she's gay. Yay, I think

848
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: she's out. You're outing her. The issue with what makes

849
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: Game Light straight is the obsession with structure and end

850
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: time and like this idea, this very sort of like

851
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 2: parent like idea, like I just want everyone to have fun. Yeah,

852
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: it's like bringing out juice boxes for everyone. It's like

853
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: being the mom after the soccer game.

854
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 3: And I like that's comforting.

855
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's comforting. And it's also a fear of the unknown,

856
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: Like it's like, what could happen if we start talking

857
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: suddenly we're talking politics. We can't have that, so we

858
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: have to blame monopoly.

859
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: Right, And I will say though, there's always one boyfriend

860
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: or husband who really cares about the rules. Yeah, and

861
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm really competitive, but I also I really think I

862
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: strike sort of an amazing balance of someone who follows

863
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: the rules. I don't cheat, but I like to have fun.

864
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: And if I notice someone kind of cut in a corner,

865
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: it's like, I want not fun. I actually don't care

866
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: if I win. I'm you know, I'm winning a lot,

867
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: but I want to have a good time. I want

868
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: to have a fun night. I am mature enough to

869
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: understand that it's sort of like barking at someone that

870
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: we don't really know that well, it's like a crazy

871
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 3: thing to do, and it's going to shift the vibe

872
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: in sort of like a treacher to a treacherous extent.

873
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: And I think that, yeah, I think there's always like

874
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: one boyfriend who's kind of like.

875
00:38:59,600 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Can we go?

876
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: Can we go back?

877
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: Would we?

878
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: And I'm sort of like, I don't know, I don't

879
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: know you like that, can we Just.

880
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: The way that this has happened to me in a

881
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: crazy like I'm just trying to play this game and

882
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: someone's like no, no, no, and I'm like, I'm just

883
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: trying to play the game. I'm this is my first time.

884
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: I'm learning the rules, like.

885
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: And what will happen should I win unjustly? What will

886
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 3: really happen? Like what who's gonna do Who's gonna do

887
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: what to me?

888
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: So this is interesting. Games are combined two things that

889
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: are actually kind of opposite rules, a sense of play,

890
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: and I think that is the gay to straight to

891
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: gay spectrum. It's like, are you playing? Is game night

892
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: a rules based game night? Or is game made a

893
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: sense of play based game?

894
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: Yes?

895
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: Wow, because I think you can have like a really

896
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: fun like playing Quiplash and everyone writing you know, literally

897
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: every single entry is the f slur. That's a sense

898
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: of play, and.

899
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: I like Jackbox for that. It kind of keeps like

900
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: the you can't cheat really so that's good.

901
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: Yet and yet some people find a way to get

902
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: upset at literally Quiplash to be like mine was funnier.

903
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: I know, and like and I have that feeling sometimes

904
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: where I go that was a better mind, was a

905
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: better joke.

906
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: You know when people win Quiplash because of anti humor,

907
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: I get so upset and like, I put all the

908
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: work into doing this wordplay and you want because yours

909
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: is like poop, Yeah, like a smile a smiley emotion.

910
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm kind of doing both. Yeah, Like I'm

911
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: really I'm really reading the room and I'm going what

912
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: will win me the right, So I'll do that. I

913
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: don't care if I start to see that working, I'm

914
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: changing my strategy.

915
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Ideally, the whole group, you know, it has more of

916
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: an improve mentality, and everyone finds the similar voice, but not.

917
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: Always No, no, I want. This is like so sad

918
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: that this is a memory I returned to a lot.

919
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 3: But years ago, I was dating this guy and he

920
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: took me to play games quip blash games with his

921
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: mod team, and I was absolutely murdering. Yeah, okay, I

922
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: was killing and people were like full body laugh, you know,

923
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: and I was getting and I was just kind of like,

924
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 3: and I'm not sort of seeking validation in those ways

925
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 3: anymore obviously, but I remember at the time it felt amazing,

926
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: like my face was probably fully flushed, like it's really bad.

927
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: And he dumped me. Can you believe?

928
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 2: Well, obviously men are threatened by a powerful and funny

929
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: and smart woman. Do you know if you didn't want

930
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: him to dump you, you should have been like, I don't know, pink.

931
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: I said everything I possibly could to prevent that from happening.

932
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: Are you kidding? I told you having a boyfriend was

933
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: like paramount for me. I really was not about for

934
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: us too. Yeah.

935
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: I the times Misha, my soon to be husband, is

936
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: like good at quip blash.

937
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: He's like a funny guy.

938
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: But comedians will get upset because they're like, well I

939
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: do this.

940
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that is the issue with quiplash is sometimes

941
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: if it's a not to get to in the weeds,

942
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: sometimes if it's a mixed comedian non comedian group, it

943
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: actually can be even more detrimental than straight people making lasagna. Right,

944
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: Like we're talking friendships are going to be ruined.

945
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it really reminds you. And I say this

946
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: all the time, and it's one of the most annoying

947
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: things that I say. It's that like we don't even

948
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: really know who the audience is. You know, we think

949
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: that we think of the audience as each other. But no, no, no,

950
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 3: there's a whole audience out there. Okay, who don't they're

951
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: not participating in making art, they're just there to enjoy it.

952
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 3: And what they're laughing at, I have no idea, very different.

953
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: I'll never Yeah, what are they laughing at?

954
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: Who knows? Who knows?

955
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 2: Let's think, No, are they laughing at SD's comedy routine.

956
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: That they they don't know?

957
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 2: They don't know who s This is actually something we've

958
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: realized more and more is that no one knows more

959
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: of whe people hate that segment. Yeah, people hate that

960
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: segment because they're like, who are they again?

961
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: Well, by now we compared the like casual French rest

962
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: like fast casual French restaurants to the him.

963
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: Sisters Paris Spaghette.

964
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: That's way harder than people were, like, no one knows

965
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, Like the restaurants.

966
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 3: I think it's like that's very New York, right or.

967
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: Like but don't you think we're not doing like you know,

968
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Baltazar and the odeon, like you have a bump pen

969
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: in Boston.

970
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 3: Like Boston is another major metrical and to answer question,

971
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: I guess.

972
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: Mall and airport places like we're not you know, we're

973
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: not doing like actually like a French restaurant.

974
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Okay, I have to ask this question. Please.

975
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: The the thing with the game night Ever since childhood,

976
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: I have you know, fantasized of course about sort of

977
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: a oh we're playing strip poker.

978
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, playing like I'm glad you brought up strip.

979
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think like lgbt's across this great nation would

980
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: be embracing sort of strip gameplay, and yet never in

981
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: my life has this come about.

982
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: Well, sometimes I do find like I feel like once

983
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: you get into your thirties year start of like you're

984
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: starting to like cross back into like now that's not

985
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: appropriate anymore. Yeah, but I will find in like be

986
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: in like full queer friend groups. Sometimes this is getting older.

987
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 3: But like sometimes I go, oh, this is getting a

988
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: little scary. How comfortable we're getting, Like this is actually

989
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: getting a little scary. How come everyone can't kiss or

990
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: some things because it can slow down, you know. I

991
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: find myself getting more like kind of normy. But then

992
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 3: if you take it, but I've come full circle because

993
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: when I was in say like middle school or something,

994
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 3: if I was at a party very rarely where people

995
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: were playing Spin the Bottle or whatever, I was panicking.

996
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: No, for sure, my first kiss was spin the model.

997
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 3: And many is I think that's kind of so cute

998
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: and romantic.

999
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: Now I agree.

1000
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: At the time, I was like I can't be that,

1001
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: but like I know then I didn't get kiss. I

1002
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: was fifteen, so that's it's like jump in becau is

1003
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: not that old. I had my chance in eighth grade, though,

1004
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, eighth grade is thirteen, Yeah,

1005
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 3: I guess thirteen fourteen.

1006
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: My first kiss was in eighth grade.

1007
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: Wow, that's cool.

1008
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: That's really cool.

1009
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: Mine was ninth grade. So I'm starting right between the middle, you.

1010
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: Guys, I was. I was in tenth grade. Like, that's crazy,

1011
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: Like I was.

1012
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: Starting to it social you know, you should not tell me.

1013
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 3: People were sortingly talk to me in a different way

1014
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: where I went. But I'm missing out. I'm like missing

1015
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: out on something and people can tell. And that was

1016
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 3: getting scary. So I affixed it. But it was crazy.

1017
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: Here's my theory about strip poker and spin the model. Actually, Okay,

1018
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: the straight thing is because you are so terrified of nudity, intimacy, whatever,

1019
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: you have to make a game of it and you

1020
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: have to like play with your own fears about it.

1021
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: Whereas the reason gay people don't play, uh, strip poker

1022
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: is because they're already like making eyes that the person

1023
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: they want to going into the other room and having sex.

1024
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, while everyone else there's not really the necessity for it.

1025
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's almost like because the potential exists so much,

1026
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: Like I was not really in straight spaces, being like yeah,

1027
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: I would fuck a bunch of people here, Like, no,

1028
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. They disgusted me kind of vibes, And so

1029
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 3: I if I was in a room full of like

1030
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: a lot of my queer friends, like I can't tell

1031
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: you how many times, it's like my brain is just

1032
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: putting up a boundary. If I were to think about

1033
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: it for more than two seconds, I always the answer

1034
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: is always.

1035
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, totally.

1036
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: Like, so, the potential for sex exists in a way

1037
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: that you actually have to You can't be playing spin

1038
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 3: the model and stuff all. You can't be like making

1039
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: it so easy that all of a sudden everyone's having

1040
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: sex with each other.

1041
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: That's true.

1042
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy away, absolutely. And that's another thing is

1043
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: that queer people are When food Platter made me think

1044
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: of this, queer people are having legitimate sex parties.

1045
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, we have this our house right now, We're

1046
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: in this back house and it's gore, and we had

1047
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: like a small pool gathering. We have a pool that

1048
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: we only share with our way lord. It's Georgina, and

1049
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: we had like seven gay guys over and everyone's question

1050
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: was do you have sex parties here?

1051
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 2: Right?

1052
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: And it was like, wait, when did this become so normal.

1053
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 3: They're like, would you want to host? Wouldn't you feel

1054
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: comfortable hosting?

1055
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: And now it's all I can think about. I'm like,

1056
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: what we need to host? We need a host kind

1057
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: of host.

1058
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: I know. The last time I had friends go to

1059
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 3: a sex party like in La I was, I was like,

1060
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 3: oh my god, like I have to get invited to that,

1061
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 3: like what is going on? And then when they recounted

1062
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: it back to me, I said, never mind, I'm going

1063
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: to sounds.

1064
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: I know, my FOMO of sex related things I'm not

1065
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: interested in is at an all time high. People will

1066
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: describe something I may I'll be like, that is not

1067
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: for me. That is literally not my kink, that is

1068
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: not my preference. Why was I not invited?

1069
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: My big fear exactly, I want to be invited so

1070
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 3: bad for my fantasy of it. But then my biggest

1071
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: fear in us in a group sex scenario is making

1072
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: ever making anyone feel bad that I don't want to

1073
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: have sex with them. I am to have sex with me,

1074
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: but I'm like, I truly am like my biggest fear

1075
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: is like I can't even be in the space because like,

1076
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: what if there's someone I don't want to have sex

1077
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: with them.

1078
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: I have to be like like, sometimes animal brain, I

1079
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: think to like almost pick someone you don't want to

1080
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 4: have sex with, well, of course, want to have sex

1081
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: with everyone except you.

1082
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm like, once I, once I decide

1083
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to have sex with that person, it's

1084
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: like it's over. I can't.

1085
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: Well, because that makes them forbidden. You forbade, You made

1086
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: them forbidden, so then that makes them hot to you?

1087
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 3: Literally, and then why did you kind of why did

1088
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: you have such a big reaction?

1089
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: Why?

1090
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 2: Yes?

1091
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: Is it because you want to have sex with them?

1092
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: Right, it's actually the bigness of the reaction rather than

1093
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: whether it's positive or negative. It's like suddenly that person

1094
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 2: is instilled with a certain light.

1095
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, like actually, do they make me really horri ezactly?

1096
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of people that I can't even see,

1097
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 3: like I don't totally you know, those are the people

1098
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: I'm probably not gonna have sex with. But it's like

1099
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 3: someone who I'm literally like I'm sort.

1100
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 2: Of like all right, well hold on, yeah.

1101
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: Is it just like am I being judgmental that they're

1102
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: wearing a harnessed or does that kind of turn me

1103
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: on a little.

1104
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1105
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, here's the other thing. Okay, New York orus

1106
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: LA what this podcast is mostly about. Yeah, in New

1107
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: York sex parties are like in some warehouse somewhere. People

1108
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: in LA asking me if I host parties. It's because

1109
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: they're all house parties.

1110
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: This is why I pause said that, because I was

1111
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: like refoilating my mind. I was like, to host. I

1112
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: understand that people also host in New York, but there's

1113
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: something so seventy is about hosting a part in your

1114
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: apartment that's so like key party or something. Yeah, yeah,

1115
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: and I but I guess in LA, you just have

1116
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: to go to someone's house.

1117
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: The problem though, is that when I imagine that I'm imagining

1118
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: like we're sort of it feels that like you're at

1119
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: someone's house and it feels though it is not it

1120
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: feels spontaneous, because like, yeah, you can't have like you

1121
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: can't have thirty people or something at your house and

1122
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: not have a little consent talk and like a here

1123
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: are the rules and like here's what's going on. Like

1124
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: you to kind of, I guess do that, but of

1125
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: course that it almost feels like it's like, oh, you're

1126
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: ruining my fantasy. Of the spontaneity, and when I had

1127
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 3: a friend explaining it to me, they were like, yeah,

1128
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: like I went over to help set up and like

1129
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 3: put like some like plastic and like sheets down, and

1130
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: I was sort of like.

1131
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not plastic.

1132
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: I feel like the person hosting needs to be like,

1133
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 3: if my couch gets round, it gets ruined. I have

1134
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: a lot of money for a couch, Like, I think

1135
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: it just needs to We need to do what we can,

1136
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 3: though it is not to make.

1137
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: It feel Also, I'm sorry, but putting plastic down to

1138
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 2: me reads so la.

1139
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 3: I know to me it reads very actually long island.

1140
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: That's true.

1141
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not quite in the same for the

1142
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: same reasons, but yeah, I know. And so for that reason,

1143
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 3: I think I'm I'm out on like big queer sex

1144
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 3: parties for now. For no please don't please keep me

1145
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 3: in the loop.

1146
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: Yet I sort of am like there's gonna be I'm

1147
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: gonna have a second wave of being interested when I'm

1148
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: like forty five, and I'm going to be like this

1149
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: is who I am is the new chapter of my

1150
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 2: sexual life.

1151
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: I listened to this podcast with some fifty year old

1152
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: woman who wrote an article about refinding her sexuality in

1153
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: middle age, and I was like, Oh, that's gonna be

1154
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: so me. I can't wait. It could be well, I

1155
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: feel like you've want I just want to find it double.

1156
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: You want to find a double A.

1157
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: Oh right, that could be generational. Yeah, I think we

1158
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 3: might have. We might be already done it.

1159
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah that's no, that's a really good point.

1160
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: It's so crazy to be one of the horniest guys

1161
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: on earth and then be like I can't wait to

1162
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: find my sexuality.

1163
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like we might have dug around, but we

1164
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: kind of dug through what is left for me to discover.

1165
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: I want to bring something into the into the conversational space,

1166
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: which is Cards against Humanity.

1167
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I forgot about that.

1168
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,959
Speaker 1: I hate that you're bringing that up.

1169
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: Because I don't think I've ever even played it.

1170
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: Really, you don't have cousins or yeah, what's the deal?

1171
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: We were like more of like an apples to apples

1172
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: younger than you.

1173
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: All.

1174
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: My cousins are my age, but we're sort of too

1175
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: old for Cards against Humanity. But then like, like I.

1176
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: Feel like we're the exact right age when it came

1177
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: out when we were like in college, got it? Don't

1178
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: you think right roughly because I am so. I guess

1179
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: the only reason I bring it up is because to me,

1180
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 2: it's so emblematic of the larger narrative of games being

1181
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: straight or gay, where if you need straight people need

1182
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: structure to be witty and random, yes, whereas a gay

1183
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 2: person is already going to say a slur.

1184
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: That's why I feel because this humanity feels so straight,

1185
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: because it's like it's kind of naughty.

1186
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: Exactly, It's kind of like it's naughty, but it was

1187
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: already written down on a car that you're picking. Just

1188
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: say like the baby fell down the stairs, and then

1189
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: I know, there you go, you don't know.

1190
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: And then even that becomes like such a brand of

1191
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: humor that makes me like feel like such a hater.

1192
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 3: It really makes me hate and it's so and it's

1193
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 3: the only absolute, only exception to that is the millennial

1194
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: urge to joke about nine to eleven. Like I'll let

1195
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: any sort of yeah nor me kind of person throw

1196
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: a nine eleven in there and'll be like, you know, like.

1197
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: Go for it, whatever, you know you love a nine

1198
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: to eleven.

1199
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 3: It makes me feel closer to my peers. I think

1200
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 3: it's put like a weird way. Like I think we

1201
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: do it in a really irreverent way and it's so

1202
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: tired now to joke about nine to eleven. But I

1203
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: also think it's like I can't think too hard about it,

1204
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 3: but like, yeah, we're probably traumatized, Yeah, our childhood, you know,

1205
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: to be that young and might be processing that. It's

1206
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: like we're probably so traumatized that we're kind of claiming

1207
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: it and being like I'll be joking about this for

1208
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: the rest of the life, you know. Yeah, it unites.

1209
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: Us cartians humanity. It's like I'm just realizing that, like

1210
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: hr rules apply to most day to day like straight

1211
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: socializing spaces, which is why there's sort of like locker

1212
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: room talk even because it's like you have to be

1213
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: like in a space where only like the boys are

1214
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: to like actually have a conversation.

1215
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to hear like someone's boyfriend, Like,

1216
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 3: do you play Cards against Humanity?

1217
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: Well?

1218
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: Cards against Humanity is like strip is like intellectual strip poker.

1219
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: It's like in the way that strip poker, you're like,

1220
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 2: this is a safe space to literally take off your

1221
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: pants and show your gross tidy whities. Cards against Humanity

1222
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: it's like you can make a fat joke and no

1223
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: one's going to be mad at you, which we know

1224
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: is all You've been wanting to do this all the time, And.

1225
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: When you see someone get too excited, it's the same feeling.

1226
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 3: It's sort of the same thing of like play.

1227
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 5: It cool hot, Oh my god Jesus, like you would

1228
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 5: like when you see the Glee, it's sort of like

1229
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 5: I can't possibly do this, and.

1230
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: You always know the place that's coming from. You can

1231
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: always tell.

1232
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: Me it's on the cards.

1233
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: There's also something that jokes. It's like I don't want

1234
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: to be such a snowflake that I'm like that doctu

1235
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: are homophoic. But the Glee with which, for example, people

1236
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: will pick an AIDS joke in Cards against Humanity, you

1237
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's all it's all jokes that

1238
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: are like things we are technically not allowed to make

1239
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: fun of because of PC culture. Yeah, but because we

1240
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: are in this wreck room we can.

1241
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: I they owe like ten percent of everything they've ever

1242
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: made to South Park. Yeah, because to me, it's also

1243
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: just like they just took that sense of humor and

1244
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: put it on cards.

1245
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also South Park. Not to defend South.

1246
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 3: Park, but please, I would like for you to.

1247
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: And also as someone who has recently been rewatching actually

1248
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: watching Family at for the first time and really enjoying

1249
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: it except for a few really, really bad moments.

1250
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: This was me watching South Park last No, no, this

1251
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: is me watching Family Guy last night in the hotel room.

1252
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you were not enjoying, not even.

1253
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: A little bit.

1254
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: Really.

1255
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: I completely like they'll They'll make like the most random

1256
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: joke of all time.

1257
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: I can't get into it either, but I do like

1258
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: I do, and I haven't probably watched South Park in

1259
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 3: a goo a couple of years, but I remember, I

1260
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: at least remember having the experience, and maybe it's college

1261
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: of being like their geniuses.

1262
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: I was dragging upon South Park.

1263
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so Mark was my favorite.

1264
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's incredible.

1265
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: I wonder what it is south I need to try

1266
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: South Park as an adult because I remember when I

1267
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: was a kid and everyone would watch South Park. I

1268
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: did not get it. I was like, this is too

1269
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: like it's almost like cringe or something like, it's it's

1270
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: too awkward cringe humor, and it made me feel bad.

1271
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: Whereas Family Guy, there was something about I could grasp

1272
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: onto what it was satirizing, which was like the family sitcom,

1273
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: and that gave enough context that I felt like I

1274
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 2: had something to grasp on to For me, south Mark

1275
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: felt nilis I guess what I'm saying, But that's.

1276
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 3: Like I like it to what I do. Think they've

1277
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 3: changed the way that they like it evolved over time,

1278
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 3: Like I do think South Park used to be at

1279
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: like in the beginning, I think it was sort of

1280
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 3: like shocking for the sake of it in a lot

1281
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 3: of ways, and then they started to like it started

1282
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 3: to be more like commentary and get really clever, and

1283
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 3: they were like really really smart about it in a way.

1284
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 3: We're like, damn, that's like a really good episode of

1285
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 3: a what a great.

1286
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: You know, all right, I'm gonna go home and watch that.

1287
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: I think probably right, I.

1288
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: Think you should. I also with family, it's hard not

1289
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: to like just be like, this is just Seth MacFarlane,

1290
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: Like it's like one egotistical man. No, it is right,

1291
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: So it's hard sometimes to to enjoy it.

1292
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: Seth McFarlane is such a fascinating figure in both straight

1293
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: and gay culture, don't you think because he is in

1294
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: because think about great he is literally he's obsessed with

1295
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: musicals and show tunes. He like put out an album

1296
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: of like jazz standards.

1297
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: It's got us.

1298
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: He's so he like what he really wants, what he

1299
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: really wants is to be a cabaret star. It's like

1300
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: how Donald Trump wants to be a like Broadway producer

1301
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: and wants to produce cats, like Seth McFarlane wants to

1302
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: be like in a suit with a little whats called

1303
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: top thank you with a top hat and a little cane.

1304
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: I mean like that, that that and like hosting the

1305
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: Tony's he could today. I know, in fact he has

1306
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: hosted the Oscars.

1307
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I feel like he could do that,

1308
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 3: like immediately to me, that's how as an outsider I perceive.

1309
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: But then it's like for his mode of expressing that

1310
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: to be a non PC animated comedy is so like

1311
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: taking the game and making it straight kind of.

1312
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's even when he did host the Oscars, this

1313
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: is the exact thing he made the joke about. He

1314
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: did the song the song and danced about booths, about boobs.

1315
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally. And it was like, but don't you

1316
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: think that, No, no, I agree, and that and that

1317
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: was bad. But that is what's so fascinating. It's like

1318
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: you have this gay instinct to do a show tune

1319
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: about actresses and then you but then you're like, fuck,

1320
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: I can't be gay. I'm gonna make it about their boobs.

1321
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: It does seem yeah, like a kind of a weirdly

1322
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: closeted Yeah, it's crazy to make it work, but also

1323
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 3: that could be a real person, like and it is

1324
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 3: because like I think it's like if I don't know,

1325
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: I don't understand what being gay in Hollywood is like,

1326
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: even as a gay person in Hollywood, Like.

1327
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: What is it's literally like you think you learn the

1328
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: rules and then someone will be like, by the way,

1329
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: don't come out literally truly genuinely.

1330
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: I remember when I got like I kind of came

1331
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: out like right before I started like getting work, and

1332
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 3: then I started getting work, and my girlfriend at the

1333
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: time was sort of like right, but like obviously like

1334
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 3: you can't be like gay in Hollywood, and and I

1335
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 3: was like, oh, like I already. I was like I

1336
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: already came out, but I feel like I have sort

1337
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: of like really broad appeal, like I think I had

1338
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 3: like Julie Roberts appeal. And she was like, no, like

1339
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: you no, you won't because you came out and I

1340
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 3: was like, why wouldn't you like tell me that before

1341
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: I came out and let me make the choice. I

1342
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: think you should have brought this up to me, like

1343
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: because I didn't know, So I think you should have

1344
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: brought this up to me before I made the choice officially,

1345
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: and maybe I would have stayed closeted and like dated

1346
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 3: had like a beard, you know. But it's too late, So.

1347
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you can honestly still kind of go back

1348
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: in people.

1349
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 3: Right, Well, I've worked. Yeah it's happening now. Yeah, it's

1350
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 3: happening now. Well it's been so interesting because in a

1351
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 3: way I have and then in a way I don't

1352
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: think that I have in that like, uh, my partner

1353
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: is a trans guy, and so I've been doing a

1354
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: lot of like my boyfriend, my boyfriend, my boyfriend, and

1355
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: yet and I think I would like some credit for that.

1356
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: I think I would like some.

1357
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: Do you want some credit?

1358
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 3: I think I would like some credit for like she's like,

1359
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: oh she is she straight?

1360
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: You know?

1361
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: I think I would like a little bit of like, yeah,

1362
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: let's play it both ways a little bit maybe, but

1363
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: when you go in that direction, it kind of feels

1364
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 3: like it's like, well, you can't really do you know,

1365
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: you can't go back?

1366
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, My friend Mattie has a joke that's like she

1367
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: first identified as by and was in a lesbian relationship

1368
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: and then her partner transitioned, and the punchline of the joke,

1369
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: which I'm gonna butcher, is like, you really can't escape

1370
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: your fate as a bye girl to have a boyfriend,

1371
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: like everything in my.

1372
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: Power, you're getting one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll be getting one.

1373
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: And it does and it is and it obviously still

1374
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: functions really gay, but the terms I'm using, I'm sort

1375
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: of found myself letting it absolutely rip with straight friends

1376
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 3: and straight relationships just being sort of like our guys, right,

1377
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 3: like straight girls stuff, And you can tell that they

1378
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: don't see it the same way, but they don't. They

1379
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: know they're not allowed to sort of be like it's

1380
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: not the same, it's different like that you could tell

1381
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: that they're not and I'm like, right, girls were the same,

1382
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 3: functions the same.

1383
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 2: Wow, this is very like have you seen a Stepford

1384
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: Wive's remake when Chicole Kid?

1385
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: Mean, of course I have.

1386
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: There's like there's one gay couple, but they're clearly like

1387
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 2: one is the man and one as the woman. Yes,

1388
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: and the and the like, butch one is with the

1389
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 2: men like complaining about their wives.

1390
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah it is, and sometimes it is like that sometimes,

1391
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes it really is like that, Like I

1392
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't want even if I were like how to like

1393
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 3: assist boyfriend, I wouldn't want a boyfriend that I could

1394
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 3: like cueen out with or something like that would be that's.

1395
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: The most like TikTok things I need to clean out,

1396
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: you can clean out with.

1397
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: I need I need a What are they like when

1398
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 3: buy wife energy was a thing like yeah, I'm gonna

1399
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 3: need that. I need like I need a bitchy boyfriend for.

1400
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: Sure, boyfriend. It's like we were talking about there must

1401
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: be women. We've already talked about this, but there must

1402
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 2: be women who's fetish is a gay guy, and so

1403
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: they make their straight boyfriends like act gay.

1404
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah they make them. Yeah they're making on me. Okay,

1405
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: those guys are so excited. I feel like it's so

1406
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 3: funny how like a girlfriends are such a safe space

1407
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 3: for boyfriends to just be Like when you were like

1408
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: I think like labels or whatever you were saying, like

1409
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 3: labels are like whatever, they're detrimental, and it's like they

1410
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 3: literally are. It's so crazy the way I've seen and

1411
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 3: it's been a long time since I've had assist boyfriend,

1412
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 3: but the unclenching that happens when they're able to sort

1413
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 3: of like really a couple months in be this genderless

1414
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 3: thing that assist man becomes when he has a long

1415
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 3: term girlfriend that loves him.

1416
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: This is so interesting. I've never considered this in my life.

1417
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: I've never thought about the metamorphosis of a man in

1418
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 1: a relationship with a woman.

1419
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 3: Is it is?

1420
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like essentially like when a gay guy has

1421
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: an older sister.

1422
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, yeah, straight man having a girlfriend is

1423
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: like gay men having an older sister.

1424
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 3: Yes, it brings out a beautiful side of them. It

1425
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: brings out something really, really beautiful and gorgeous.

1426
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: It's so interesting because the conventional narrative is like men

1427
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: almost it's like having a girlfriend or a wife firms

1428
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: their masculinity. That's the conventional narrative. So and that's why

1429
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: you know, quote unquote in cells are so unhappy because

1430
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: they have nowhere for their masculinity to go. But you're

1431
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 2: actually and here I'm looking for a word you are

1432
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: interrogating that like, oh wow, by saying no, a straight

1433
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: man having a girlfriend or wife actually allows him to

1434
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: put to become genderless. Yes, yes, and that and that's

1435
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: why in cells are more masculine. They need someone, they

1436
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: need somewhere to put their masculinity.

1437
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 3: It depends on what you think masculinity means totally. Oh,

1438
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 3: I always think of like as someone who you know

1439
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: has had experience like to me, yeah, I think that's

1440
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 3: really true. I think of like, obviously, gay guys are

1441
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: like the most masculine because I think that you're being

1442
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 3: really honest about, uh, your desire for like a partner

1443
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 3: who is masculine, like a masculinity a partner, which I

1444
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 3: do think a lot of straight guys want or are

1445
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 3: attracted to masculinity. Sure, it's I think a lot of people.

1446
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: I think, like, obviously, because of the patriarchy like society,

1447
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 3: we're all attracted masculinity. Everybody is gay, people like all

1448
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 3: like lesbian's everybody like to some degree is And so

1449
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 3: you are kind of like I think it's like so

1450
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 3: honest to be like, I'm a guy who wants a

1451
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 3: guy like that's as masculine as you can get. And

1452
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: then it's sort of like, yeah, if you're you're what

1453
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 3: do you mean you're dating a woman?

1454
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: Like yeah, what do you mean? What do you mean?

1455
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 3: Like you're like you're what do you mean you're using

1456
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 3: her shower products? I don't know. I'm like always, I

1457
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: think I've never had a boyfriend who wasn't excited to

1458
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 3: do like girly things with me.

1459
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

1460
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: And to admit also to admit that you love a

1461
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 3: woman is like, That's why I'm like always, like fem

1462
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 3: for fem relationships really blow my mind, Like you're.

1463
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: Powerful and that is really powerful.

1464
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: That's so powerful. I really wish I could be at

1465
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: a fem for firm relationship and it's just never naturally

1466
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 3: really found me. Oh really yeah yeah, I think it

1467
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 3: was just really common. It's like a very rare type

1468
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 3: of lesbian you know, to do that.

1469
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: Well, then why are they all over my TV screen?

1470
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: Can I?

1471
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: You know it's so interesting?

1472
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: If it's so rare, then why is that the one

1473
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: in films?

1474
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: You wait a minute, it's a good cue.

1475
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: Okay, hear me out, go with me on this. There's

1476
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: this horseshoe theory where it's like fem for frem relationships

1477
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: are both the male fantasy of like two chicks making out,

1478
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 2: but then also horseshoe around the most empowered Yes women yes,

1479
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: who are like we are forms that we are rejecting

1480
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 2: all masculine, but.

1481
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 3: Also sort of like the male fantasy of that is

1482
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: like two straight feminas, right, like two women who are

1483
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 3: doing the very sort of like a male gayzy sort

1484
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 3: of like whatever fem for fem in lesbian terms is

1485
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 3: like you have to think chapel roone, you have to

1486
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 3: think like a girl.

1487
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: With a for them don't exist.

1488
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, And it's like it's very much. It's it

1489
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 3: also is that full circle thing of now we're doing

1490
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: like it's almost like when I think like high femme lesbian,

1491
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: it's a it's like drag a little. It's a little

1492
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 3: drag and you can it's also very clockable like a

1493
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 3: very fem gay woman. You can tell, you know, because

1494
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: there's almost because there's something about straight men where they

1495
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 3: go not too much, don't too too much, you know,

1496
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 3: so when you see too much, you go that's for

1497
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: a girl. That's they're looking. They're looking to trap a girl.

1498
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, men, it's more sweatpants, hair tied.

1499
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: Chill, no makeup on, because they're very men, straight men,

1500
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 3: and they live in a straight men live in a

1501
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 3: scary world where girls are constantly trying to trick them

1502
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 3: and trap them. It's crazy, they are trying to trick

1503
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 3: and trap those guys. Make up? Who did that? Who

1504
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 3: invented that? Absolute ruse? I used to be really.

1505
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

1506
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 3: I went through a phase where I loved to watch

1507
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: YouTube videos by like old men talking about how not

1508
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 3: to get tricked in the Philippines.

1509
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 2: Whoa?

1510
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: And it was very much like what do you mean

1511
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 3: trick toney? What do you what are you doing over there?

1512
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, what do you mean tricked?

1513
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 3: Like you're like to do like weird sexual tourism and

1514
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: then just be like she doesn't necessarily love you. It's

1515
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 3: very like ninety day not ninety yeah, ninety fiance or

1516
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 3: something where it's kind of like you looked for something,

1517
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 3: you found it, and then you're like mad when it's

1518
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 3: transactional and.

1519
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: It's kind of like whoa, it.

1520
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 3: Is what it is. But I love guys, and I

1521
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 3: love guys too.

1522
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 2: I love guys, and I actually think we need to

1523
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: have a conversation about masculinity in this country.

1524
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: Well, should we do our final segment? Yeah?

1525
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 2: Any final thoughts on game night?

1526
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 3: I could have been a game night. How I feel

1527
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 3: about sex parties where it's like I'll probably say no,

1528
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 3: but I would like to be in Like Kempton, I

1529
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 3: feel the.

1530
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: Same way, and I will say yes one out of

1531
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: every twelve times.

1532
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be like, who's going to be there?

1533
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: If like the dinner party leading up to the game

1534
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: is really fun, I'll do it.

1535
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 3: Oh, they're feeding you sometimes. Oh, sometimes I have to

1536
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 3: get married. It's like a whole different world.

1537
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: No, you gotta try it.

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01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: I probably don't have a single game in my house.

1539
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if I do. I don't think

1540
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: I do either. We did it? You have one?

1541
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 3: Well in La? Yeah, because I live with the games.

1542
01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: Girl rare.

1543
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 3: It's not your fault. If you're not, it's not And

1544
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 3: we're never touching them. I'll be honest. Yeah, you know,

1545
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 3: we got one pack of cards we're using and that's

1546
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 3: pretty much it.

1547
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: It's a little more fun.

1548
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 3: Soshi go, Yeah, Soshi, I played, I've played.

1549
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: Our final segment is called shout outs, and we pay

1550
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio shout out,

1551
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: shouting out to anything that we are enjoying. People place

1552
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: those things ideas, we make them up on the spot. George,

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01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: do you have one?

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: Okay, you kick us off.

1556
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 2: What's up, cinephiles and the letterbox users. I want to

1557
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: give a shout out to the film Happiness by Todd Salons,

1558
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: which I had never seen before in my life. And

1559
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: there's a new four K restoration and it was playing,

1560
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 2: and there was a Q and A with Todd Salons,

1561
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 2: who is a kooky guy afterwards and whatever happened to

1562
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: Laura Flamboyle, Whatever happened to Laura Flamboyle talk about talk

1563
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: about how women with long black hair like her guests

1564
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: are persecuted.

1565
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll say, maybe where is she?

1566
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: Where is she?

1567
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 2: She is one of the great actresses of her generation.

1568
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: She and she's competing with some of the greats in

1569
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 2: that movie, and she's holding her own. She's so funny,

1570
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: she lands every punchline. It is a masterpiece. Beginning to end.

1571
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 2: Tot Salons cannot get any funding rate now, and yes,

1572
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: partly that's because he's kind of a crazy character, but

1573
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 2: it's also because our industry is dying and we actually

1574
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: need to rebuild it from the bottom up, and we

1575
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: need to bring back Laura Fla and Boil and she

1576
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,919
Speaker 2: needs to be in a new film written and directed

1577
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 2: by a kind of crazy mail outeur. And that is

1578
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 2: my final request.

1579
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 3: I would love to see that.

1580
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: I would love to see it as well.

1581
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 2: Have you seen Happiness?

1582
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: No?

1583
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 2: Have you No? It's like crazy.

1584
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 3: Do you know the I just heard someone talking about

1585
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: this too.

1586
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: Well, it's like back in theaters. Yes, it's from like

1587
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight, but it's like one of the early

1588
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: phillipsy Moore Hawkmann performances. Dylan Baker is in it and

1589
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 2: he plays.

1590
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, someone was just talking about that, Yes, he says, Okay,

1591
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 3: I know, and no one had mentioned Laura Flinn.

1592
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 2: Will doesn't get the respect.

1593
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: Yes ahead, okay, what's ups and perverts around the globe?

1594
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: I want to give a huge shout.

1595
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: Out to having a plane tradition, a tradition for when

1596
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: you're on an airplane. For me, I have been for

1597
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: the last few years every time on an airplane, I'm

1598
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: watching Curb Your Enthusiasm. I have never seen Curby your

1599
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: Enthusiasm on land. I only see it in the air,

1600
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: and now it brings up like a memory of all

1601
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: the other times I've traveled, because it's something I do

1602
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: every time I want an airplane. I don't know who's

1603
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: in charge of putting on different seasons of curby your

1604
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: enthusiasm on the planes, but they deserve a raise because

1605
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: every time I want a plane, Season four, season six,

1606
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 1: he's dead. It's completely random how they decide what season

1607
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: is on at any given time, and yet I've never

1608
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: seen the same episode twice. I'm jumping through time. It's

1609
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: one of the most It's so comforting to watch on

1610
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: a plane. I think due to you're just sort of

1611
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: like in a space of discomfort anyways, You're like, okay,

1612
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: why not just lean into it and be kind of

1613
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: cranky with with layer And I think, whatever your plane

1614
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: tradition is, you need to find for yourself. But this,

1615
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: for me, I start watching to enthusiasm. I say, I'm

1616
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, I'm on a plane. I love it. Wow.

1617
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 3: And that's not a feeling a lot of people are

1618
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 3: having on the plane.

1619
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: No, per the door is.

1620
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 3: Falling off, all the doors and the explosions and whatnot.

1621
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,839
Speaker 1: For that type of stuff which is rampant.

1622
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 3: Don't watch the recent season of the rehearsal if you're

1623
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: getting on a plane.

1624
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: It actually did make me afraid of landing.

1625
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and we won't get into it too much,

1626
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 3: but the re enactments where you see the plane like

1627
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 3: land incorrectly and immediately burst into flames.

1628
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: It's very scary.

1629
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 3: The first time I got on a plane after watching

1630
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 3: the first couple episodes, when as we were landing, I

1631
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 3: just my brain automatically filled it in with like and

1632
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:02,919
Speaker 3: then we catch on fire.

1633
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm also just like I cannot my brain tries to imagine,

1634
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, okay, maybe if I like, uh, you know,

1635
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: think about what it would be like to be on fire,

1636
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: I can like get used to the idea and no,

1637
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: what would this look like? Like like I'm on fire

1638
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: and I'm wearing headphones, what are they melting?

1639
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 3: And you're watching curbs sort of Oh my god.

1640
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: They're melting into your head ill It's like it's crazy. Yeah,

1641
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 2: I better die fast.

1642
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you do.

1643
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: No, I don't think you wait.

1644
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 3: That's kind of iconic in a sort of like a

1645
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 3: beetlejuice or I'm like a deeper color, like a wrist

1646
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 3: cutter sort of way. A movie where that you see

1647
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,759
Speaker 3: how people died, like you would have your.

1648
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: Very final destination. Yes, like you know when they die.

1649
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, when they die in the Cutters reference.

1650
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not not a lot of people referencing listcutters,

1651
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 3: but it's it's one of it's part of the cannon

1652
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 3: of movies or shout out, hey, shout out to movies

1653
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 3: where they have that take place in the afterlife at

1654
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 3: least partially and you can see how the person died.

1655
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 3: The sixth sense, the Beetlejuice Movies, Risk Cutters a love

1656
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 3: story full title. It's one I recommend a lot. I

1657
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 3: haven't seen it in years. I hope it's good, but

1658
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: I think it's probably really good.

1659
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: Probably.

1660
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 3: I think it's a really good, really clever, cute movie

1661
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 3: for something that's pretty dark.

1662
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, well wow, so many film, film and television recks.

1663
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: Of course. No, there's like a specific era of indie

1664
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 1: movie that it's just like when I was in college,

1665
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: so I was watching indie movies, yes, where I'm like,

1666
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, there's only ten indie movies. It's like, no,

1667
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: it's just the ten that we're.

1668
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 3: At that month two year period and it's a little

1669
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 3: if I recall, it's a little twee, you know, there's

1670
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 3: a sure, it's a bit, it's a tad.

1671
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: If you like Risk Cutters a love story, you may

1672
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: have tickets to the Mumford and Son The Power that

1673
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: I've seen I'm in twenty eleven.

1674
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, hower that Juno and little Miss Sunshine have over

1675
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 2: are exact demographic. No, it's crazy, Yeah, because Elliott Page

1676
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 2: is like a like I especially in you Are he

1677
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: lives in the West Side, and it's like you have

1678
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: no well, actually he probably does have an idea of

1679
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: people probably come up to him all the time. But

1680
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 2: it's like Juno changed the game.

1681
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: It did a huge way.

1682
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 3: It did. It also was a lately I've been coming

1683
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 3: back around like there was that first wave of sort

1684
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 3: of like shame of aging about like you know, and

1685
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 3: like of like gen Z are kind of more like

1686
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 3: the main demographic right now, and I feel old and

1687
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 3: our things are old. And then sometimes I'll talk to

1688
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 3: people younger than me and it's kind of like, oh man,

1689
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 3: it like sort of does rock to be a monniole,

1690
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 3: Like it actually is amazing, Like one time someone was like,

1691
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 3: you guys are so lucky you had like Britney Spears

1692
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 3: Club era in college, or.

1693
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: Like that's true, it's so true.

1694
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 3: Like G six and stuff like like we just still

1695
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 3: till the world is oh husha, Like there's just so

1696
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 3: many phases of our like childhood and young adulthood, that

1697
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 3: it's kind of like God that did rule and it

1698
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 3: was scary, but it ruled.

1699
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: The worst part is I well and so soon. I

1700
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: remember being in college and being like Bad Romance coming

1701
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: out and being like, wow, I'm in college with bad Romance. Yeah,

1702
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: like this is something that not many people get to have.

1703
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 2: I actually felt that way about spring seeing spring Breakers

1704
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: in theaters, I was like, fuck God.

1705
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 3: Things were just for us and it felt the good.

1706
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: Oh that was awesome. Yeah. Well, Taylor, thank you so

1707
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: much for doing the podcast. Thank you for horrible at

1708
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: the job of promotion. I don't know if there's any

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: places with any and all things?

1710
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 3: Is there any all things? Out of the trip? Watch

1711
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 3: Please watch Another Simple Favorite on Amazon Prime and four

1712
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 3: seasons on Netflix and Ghosts on Hulu if you want to.

1713
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: She's multiplatform trying to get on all the platforms, and.

1714
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: We don't have time, but obviously off my gift to

1715
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 2: tell us which of those is Stu? Which is Daniellen?

1716
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 3: Which oh my god, Yeah, oh that's so hard.

1717
01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:01,560
Speaker 2: Okay, bye, okay bye podcast and now want more? Subscribe

1718
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Speaker 2: to our Patreon for two extra episodes a month, discord

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01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,559
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01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,839
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01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,400
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01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,000
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