1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: arguably the most important podcast Chuck Bryant and I will 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: ever record. I'm Josh Clark. This is stuff you should know, 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: and brother, I am jacked up me three. You're ready? Yeah, 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm speaking for Jerry. So she's the Marcel Marcello our group. Yeah, 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: she's always wears the gloves. Hate mins? I actually don't 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: hate monsisistic cliche to say you hate mins. Minds are cool? 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: It says who that minds are cool? Yeah? I just 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: said it, jerk. Chuck and I have clearly been eating 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: far too many Twinkies in preparation of this. Yes we have, yeah, Chuck, Yes, 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: what do you know about the twinkie? Let's talk about twinkies. 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk about twinkies. Everyone knows the twinkie is a 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: popular junk food snack cake. Yes, legendary junk food snack egg. 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: I would say, I would say legendary as well. I'm 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: glad we're doing something light like this. Just lighten Yeah, 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: and Chuck, how long is it twinkie. Twinkie is uh 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: four inches long? How wide is it? Twinkie? Inch and 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: a half? Did you know that originally it was first 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: invented it was made with banana cream filling. Indeed, let's 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: get into this, buddy. Those are just some teasers, all right. 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: So the twinkie was first invented in the nineteen thirties. Yes, 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: Continental Bakeries. Yeah, they're the vice president of Continental Bakeries, 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: which is already doing business as Hostess, which we know 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: and love, is the maker of Twinkies and what I 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: consider to be the greatest snack food of all time, 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: the crumb cake. Really a fan. I like the nutty bar, 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: the Little Debbie nutty bars. We're not we're talking host 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: is here, buddy? Yeah? Um, they will assassinate you. What 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: are those? They're like pink balls? What are those snowballs? 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Chucks on it? Alright, So back in the vice president 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: of Continental Bakery he's a guy named James. What is it, 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: James Dooer. James Dooer not a Scotch maker. His brother 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: could have been. Um. He decided that the company's idle 36 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: machinery that was used to make a strawberry filled little 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: shortbread Fingers was the brand name. Um could be put 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: to better use. Well, the machines were idle because sea yeah, seasonal, 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: because strawberries only grow certain times of the year, right, 40 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: so the rest of the year that they would just 41 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: sit there. And this bug doer and he decided to 42 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: do something about it. So he came up with a 43 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: little uh, little yellow cake filled with creamy filling jammy 44 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: frosting if you were, that could be made year round. Um. 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: And apparently on his way to a marketing meeting for 46 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: this snack cake, he passed a billboard for twinkletoe shoes, 47 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: which I gotta tell you, I would never buy shoes 48 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: called twinkletoe shoes. Sure you would, you dream sailor totally would. Uh. 49 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: And that was it. He had the name right there, 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: and Twinkies were born. Yeah, there's always a cute story 51 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: behind names like that. Anytime the words twinkle and toes 52 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: are putty together, it's a cute story. Yeah. Um, so 53 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: twinkies were born, and uh, as I said, they were 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: made with banana cream filling, right for a while, Yeah, 55 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: until World War Two. Yeah, I didn't this. I thought 56 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: this is pretty interesting. They quit doing that because there 57 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: was a shortfall of bananas during the war. Yeah, I 58 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: had no idea. No, I can see rubber and and 59 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, iron steel and yeah, I know, men, maybe 60 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: it's from all the banana bombs we were dropping confetti missiles. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um, 61 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: so that they replaced the banana with vanilla frosting, right, 62 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: and it's stuck. Yeah, it definitely stuck. Although um every 63 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: once in a while Hostess released the banana flavored Twinkie 64 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: and like the limited run, and every time they did 65 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: they noticed sales increased, which is pretty substantial. And now 66 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: it's permanent as of two thousand seven. Yeah, let's talk 67 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: about the early twinkie and the pure goodness that was 68 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: the early twinkie. Yeah, it was in the early days, Josh. 69 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: It was made with eggs, milk, butter, as you would 70 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: expect it to be because it was cake and it 71 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: had a shelf life. The problem there was had a 72 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: shelf life of what like two days two days, so 73 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: the salesman had to rotuate the stock every two days. 74 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: And that was cool because it tasted good. But Doer said, 75 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, this isn't I'm not making as much money 76 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: as like a chuck. Can you imagine how divine a 77 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: twinkie made with like real butter and milk and eggs 78 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: would be. It's called it's called cake. Well yeah, but 79 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: cake with like real vanilla frosting and in that shape too. Yeah, 80 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: that would be great. I would love for someone to 81 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: make and send me a real original twinkie. That would 82 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: be awesome. Yeah. I just zoned out for a second 83 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: thinking about that. I know, seriously, you just glazed over. Okay, 84 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: So these days it's actually up to thirty nine ingredients, 85 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: and most of them come out of labs, right, Yeah. Unfortunately, 86 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of chemicals going on. You've got like 87 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: yellow number five. There's still sugar in plenty of sugar, 88 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: just corn syrup of course, our old friend. And uh, 89 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: there's also bleached wheat flour and I think sugar and 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: flour the two biggest ingredients in it, right right. Uh. 91 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Monoglycerides and diaglycerides have replaced the eggs, yeah, which act 92 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: as emulsifiers. Smulsifiers, they stabilize the cake batter and enhance 93 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: the flavor. Yeah, apparently for the filling they use to 94 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: achieve the same and polyscerbate sixty, which does much it 95 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: emulsifies the frosting. Same thing. Yeah, and there's hydrogenated shortening 96 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: instead of butter, although there is artificial butter flavor and 97 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: artificial vanilla flavor, and both of those are actually made 98 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: from petroleum. Yeah. When I read that, I was I 99 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: was a little taken aback, to be honest. Yeah, I'm 100 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: not a big I mean to eat twinkies now anymore? Well, 101 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, I don't eat at all, but I do 102 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: occasionally enjoy a twinkie for sure. I haven't had a 103 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: twinkie in a long time. Did you treat yourself? And 104 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed. I mean, I'll down the Ben and 105 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: Jerry's and I'm not opposed to eating fattening goodness. I know. 106 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: I think part of it is twinkies are associated with youth. Yeah, 107 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: i'd agree with that. I'm telling you, go back and 108 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: eat a twinkie. You'll love yourself. Well, you know, my 109 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: mom used to make um strawberry shortcake with twinkies. Nice. 110 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah it was good, monte, very nice seventies dessert too. Yeah, 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, before the key party, load the kids up 112 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: with a twinkie strawberry shortcake. And apparently she's not the 113 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: only one to experiment with twinkies. I have a Twinkies 114 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: cookbook at home, actually sorts of crazy stuff in there. Yeah, 115 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: you should have brought that in. I should have. I 116 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: don't have the kind of foresight that you expect me 117 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: to have. You had the deep fried twinkie. I used 118 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: to make them and sell them at this beer festival 119 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Oh dude, I can make 120 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: a fried twinkie like you would not believe. How do 121 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: you do that? It's incredibly simple. So you have like 122 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: a vat of oil. I think peanut oil. Maybe peanut 123 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: all is the best. It's the worst for you, but 124 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: it tastes the best. Um. And you just take like 125 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: pancake batter or fry batter, right, um, and you make 126 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: the batter up better up, and you you just dip 127 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: the twinkie in the batter, throw it in the deep fryer. 128 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: I just throw it in there. Wo man, that sounds good. 129 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: Pull it out, throw some powdered sugar on there. Oh 130 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: my god. Actually you'll see. God, it's like a funnel cake. 131 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Turbo funnel cake is what it really is. No, not 132 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: at all, not at all. It's like it's like a 133 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: funnel cake with a Twinkie inside. It's the greatest thing 134 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: you'll ever have. And I can make a good fried 135 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: oreo too. Really, huh, you never cook for me. I 136 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: will sometimes you'll have to come over. We'll shave some 137 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: years off our life. Seriously, Uh excuse me? Should we 138 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: talk about the the process of how they make it 139 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: in the factory. It's kind of cool. Yeah, So, Josh, 140 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: we're in the Twinkie factory. This is Jerry's big chance 141 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: to add some sound of thags. We're in the we're 142 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: in the Twinkie back You look good in the hairnut. 143 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: But what I appreciate that what they do is they 144 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: have these metal pans in the shape of Twinkie shape 145 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: holes upside down. Twinkies are baked up. What you would 146 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: consider upside down golden brown bottom is actually upside There's 147 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: a lot. I actually used to hear that they weren't, 148 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: in fact baked brown, and that was added color. Not true. 149 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: They are baked brown on the bottom. Indeed, Yeah, you 150 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: talked to the widow of James Dowert about that, didn't 151 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: you did it? Spoke to her personally. So they throw 152 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: the battery in there. It's baked at a cool three 153 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: fifty fahrenheit for nine to twelve minutes. Cool three cool, 154 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: uh the after after cool's They you know the famous 155 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: three holes in the in the bottom of the twin tie, 156 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: those are from the manufacturing process. They're cream filling injectors, 157 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: and they stick those three things in there and squirt 158 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: in the cream, which I wish they just scort that 159 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: in my mouth. So you just want to lay down 160 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: on the conveyor belt and go down the twinkie line. 161 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: How the stuff sported in your mouth straight from the 162 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: the try injection? Yeah, how that sounds good. It does. 163 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: So that's pretty much it. Man. They seal it air 164 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: tight in the package. And um, apparently that the ceiling 165 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: process is really where the preservation comes in, right, because Chuck, 166 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: if there's anything that everyone agrees on with Twinkies, it's 167 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: that they will last indefinitely. Not true, No, it isn't. 168 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: And actually there's only one ingredient in the twinkie that's 169 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: added specifically to preserve it, and that's sorbic acid. Right. 170 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: There are there are some preservative properties of some of 171 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: the other ingredients, um, but ultimately there's only one added ingredient. 172 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: That's meant to preserve it. And it's actually, like you said, 173 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: the air tight package that makes a Twinkie last. And 174 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: there are all sorts of urban myths about the one 175 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: I like this is that the they're still selling the 176 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: original run of Twinkies, which actually is clearly alive because 177 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: they would be banana flavored. Um. But the Hostess company 178 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: says that Twinkies have a shelf life twenty five days, yeah, 179 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: not twenty five years. No, no, but yeah, there there 180 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 1: have been some experiments that indicate to the contrary. Um. 181 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: There's actually these kids who very recently this last school 182 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: year out in uh what is it, Wallowa County, Oregon, 183 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: two little kids, Logan Waldron and c J. Horne. Um. 184 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: We're talking about whether or not twinkies could last indefinitely, 185 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: how long they could last? Um. And they have a 186 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: very encouraging bus driver who I must say, based on 187 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: this picture, is the arguably the best looking and most 188 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: stylish bus driver on the planet. And her name is 189 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: Lisa Morris. And she said, you know what, why don't 190 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: you guys do a scientific experiment. That's that's a bus driver. 191 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: I know it's quite a babe. I know, I must say, 192 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: I know. Um, she encouraged them to uh to to 193 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: conduct their own experience. So they put a double pack 194 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: my favorite kind of Twinkies in a Mayonnai's jar, closed 195 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: it and put it in a rock crib, which I'm 196 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: not sure what that is, but they basically buried it. 197 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: And the kids were planning on doing it until they 198 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: were eighteen, but they just you know, they're like nine exactly. 199 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: But she kept encouraging them to wait at least until 200 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: the end of the school year, and they did so. 201 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: Nine months later, they popped it open, eight the twinkies, 202 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: one each. They both said they were fine. One kid 203 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: said he got a belly ache from it. The other 204 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: kid said he was fine. So they are now encouraging 205 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 1: teachers around the country science teachers they conduct similar experiments. 206 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, so as far as these two are concerned, 207 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: a Twinkie shelf life is at least nine months greater days. Yeah, well, 208 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: I know you just mentioned the double pack. I know 209 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: you like the double pack because there's two of them. No, 210 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: because of the little cardboard in there, and you can 211 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: scrape the little uh kakey goodness off the cardboard and 212 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: eat it. I just lick it off the car board. 213 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: It's like the cheese paper and a on a cheeseburger. 214 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: Do you really eat all that stuff? Oh? Dude, who 215 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: doesn't take the paper from a McDonald's cheeseburger and scrape 216 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: the cheese off of it and eat it? People who 217 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: want to live? Shut up, you've had McDonald's in your day. Pal, 218 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: Twinky Man, Twinky the Kid, let's talk about Twinkie the Kid. 219 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: I just totally shocked you with that. Yeah. I had 220 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: a Twinky the Kid t shirt when I was those 221 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: It was awesome. I wish you still had it. Yeah, 222 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're still out there. Yeah, I wonder what 223 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: why Twinkie the Kid? It's famous. Uh if you've never 224 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: seen it, and I'm sure everyone has, it was a 225 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: cowboy motif lasso on a hat and boots. And I 226 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: saw a dude online today that had a Twinky the 227 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: Kid tattoo. That's a pretty cool tattoo, my friend. Yeah, 228 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: that definitely beats taz or a dolphin or a turtle, 229 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: sunburst barbed wire around your arm. Yeah, so Twinkie the Kid, 230 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: cool tattoo, even cooler T shirt. I remember seeing twink 231 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: of the Kid ads in between acts of thunder, the 232 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: barbarian and hanker for a hunk of cheese. Remember that, 233 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: what was that house rock? Now was like the nutrition people? Yeah, exactly, 234 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: I got a hanker for a hunk of pocket full 235 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: of something. Yeah, because hunk of cheese is really healthy 236 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: for you. That was clearly the dairy Association. So, Chuck, 237 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about twinkies and pop culture. Yeah, this is 238 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: good stuff. Well, no, not pop culture, real culture history. Yeah, 239 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: my friend, have you heard of Twinkie Gate? Yeah, go 240 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: ahead and break that one down. That's good. So there 241 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: was a guy who was seventy one back in five 242 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: was running for a place on the Minneapolis City Council. 243 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: His name was George bel Air, and he was actually 244 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: indicted for bribery because at a I guess a candidate 245 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: for him. He was the lone candidate for it. I 246 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: guess it was. He hosted it, he provided, he he 247 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: provided coffee, kool Aid and twinkies for these senior groups 248 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: that were there, um, and he was indicted for bribery 249 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: trying to constituency. They didn't call it kool aid Gate, no, 250 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about that too there. I think 251 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: kool Aid had its run one pop with Jonestown. Oh sure, yeah, 252 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: will forever be enshrined within about drinking the kool aid. Um, 253 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: that's an Alexicon. Now drink the kool aid. Definitely, It's 254 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: got its own thing. Twinkies are much more versatile, you know. Um, 255 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: it's such an ironic twist to crime. You know, but 256 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: that's not the only crime that they've been associated with. Well, 257 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: can I cover this one please? In the nine Dan 258 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: White of San Francisco famously shot and killed Harvey Milk. 259 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: It was was he a city councilman. He was and 260 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: a and a supervisor and the first, yeah supervisor, I 261 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: first openly homosexual public officeholder in the country was Harvey Milk. 262 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: And the mayor also got capped. Mayor also got capped, 263 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: and Dan White is who did the deed. And the 264 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: famous twinkie defense was used in his case because they 265 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: said he was under a severe depression at the time 266 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: and as evidence they used the fact that he uncharacteristically 267 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: was wolfing down twinkies and junk food. Junk food. Apparently 268 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: twinkies was mentioned. It does show up in the in 269 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: the court transcripts, but it was one witness who used it. 270 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: In passing and actually ding Dong's and ho Hoes were 271 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: mentioned way more. But yeah, the guy was apparently um 272 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: homicidal depression brought on by a poor diet, and it 273 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: actually worked. Rather than first this is premeditated murder, he 274 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: got manslaughter and eight years that was that, yep, and 275 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: that the media ran with it in the twinkie defense. 276 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Speak you still here, But again, why not the ding 277 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: dong defense. It's even funnier the ho ho defense. Sure 278 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: that that would be confused with Santa Claus probably you 279 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: know why, because twinkies are an American icon, me and 280 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: you and former President Bill the Lady Killer Clinton. Really yeah, 281 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: he actually selected a Twinkie to be placed in the 282 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: Millennium Time Capsule in alongside the complete works of Louis Armstrong. 283 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: It works at William Faulkner the state flag of Hawaii. 284 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: There's a Twinkie in there too. So in a hundred 285 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: years people will really be able to find out just 286 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: how long the shelf life is for twcase, how about 287 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: half a twinkie that even at perfect Yeah, you've got 288 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: the thumb out your teeth. Uh So that is the 289 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: twinkie defense. And um, Harvey mel that was the millennium capsule, 290 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: So we've moved millennium falcon. Thanks for thanks for coming, Chuck. Uh, 291 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: should we talk about the T W I and K 292 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: I E S Project? I can't wait. Pretty cool he's 293 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: got and this is university, right, yeah, Rice University. It's 294 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: kind of a while ago. These students, as college students, 295 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: are so fun. It was called the test with inorganic 296 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: noxious cakes with a K in extreme situations, which spells 297 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: out twinkies. And let's let's go over a couple of 298 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: things that they did with twinkies. You tell them yours first, Okay, 299 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: let me. I want to do the water test. Uh. 300 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: What they wanted to do was, um, see what happened 301 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: when you put it twinkie in water? Straightforward enough, let's 302 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: sit there, and they said this and this is on 303 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: their website. As soon as the twinkie was placed in 304 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: the water, it swelled to approximately twice its normal size. 305 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: A quick tactile observation indicated that the twinkie immediately began 306 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: to lose its structural integrity. The color of the twinkie 307 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: paled to an off white color, while the water below 308 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: the twinkie turned a dark yellow brown, while the water 309 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: above the twinkie remained clear, which is interesting, and they 310 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: showed pictures. So basically they left it in there for 311 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: forty eight hours. They said the creamy filling somehow oozed 312 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: out of the center and collected on the surface of 313 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: the water and basically it turned into a lump of 314 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: goo by the end of it. So that was the conclusion. 315 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: The conclusion, Actually, you don't have the observation. I think 316 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: the observation was it turned into a lumpy goo of 317 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: mess in the water. You got my other favorite one 318 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: second favorite dropping off the building. Did you print that out? No? 319 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: You do that one? I got another one? Okay, Yeah. 320 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: They did the gravity test on two twinkies get to 321 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: find out whether or not twinkies are subject to gravity. 322 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: I think they would float up when then been cool. 323 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: So they released twinkies off the sixth floor and I 324 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: like the picture of the twinkie circle and drop, and 325 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: they said that upon impact there was a loud splut sound, 326 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: a small crack opened on one side of the twinkie. 327 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: There was no noticeable change in the control. So they 328 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: dropped the twinkie again. The same split sound was heard. 329 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: Then they dropped the same twinkie. Yeah, and this is 330 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: that love this line. The fissure in the side of 331 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: the twinkie wide and again no noticeable change. And basically 332 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: the twinkie and the control twinkie didn't really completely split 333 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: up in it, just kind of some of the stuff 334 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: oozed out. But they are affected by gravity. I did 335 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: have the conclusion in this week, however, the reaction on 336 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: impact is much smaller than expected, and they maintain maintain 337 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: a good deal of structural integrity from such a lofty fall. Yeah. 338 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: Six stories yea. My favorite actually, um was that they 339 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: wanted to find out whether twinkies were sentient or not, 340 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: and they decided to run this test last because they 341 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: had killed a lot of twinkies, as they put it, 342 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: and they didn't want to know that they were sentient 343 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: while they were dropping him off six you know story buildings. 344 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: So they actually administered the Turing test, which is normally 345 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: used to test whether or not a computer has developed 346 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: an artificial intelligence. Right, if you put a person in 347 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: a computer in another room or whatever, and you direct 348 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: questions to both of them simultaneously and both answer. If 349 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: you can't tell the difference, then the computer has developed 350 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. So they conducted a turn test or turn 351 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: sorry test on a sophomore at the college and a twinkie, 352 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: and they put them behind a sheet you couldn't see 353 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: who is who, and they asked certain questions. Um, like 354 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: they asked in the students. Yes, so question one was 355 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: what would you describe as the purpose of your existence? 356 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: And uh, subject B, which was the guy. Uh the 357 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: answer was to woo women and subject A in parentheses 358 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: no answer. And it just kind of goes on like that, like, um, 359 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: they wanted to know how the both of them felt 360 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: about their mother. Um. They did some free association, like 361 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: the word health prompted the answer sex for free association 362 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: from subject B. Um, the the word spam prompted no 363 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: answer from subject A, and so on. So they determined 364 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: that twinkies are not in fact sentient, that they do 365 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: not have intelligence. Is a relief? Wouldn't that be unnerving? Yeah? 366 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: As a vegetarian, I think, or a vegan, you would 367 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: have to stop eating twinkies. Oh I'm not a vegan, No, 368 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: of course not. Okay, Yeah, I am so chuck. Most 369 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: twinkies ever eaten by a person? You want to guess 370 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: who it is? Uh? Jerry our producer. She's close. Okay, 371 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: she's very close. Um. Actually, there is a guy who 372 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: is eighty nine, and I believe he lives in Indiana, 373 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: and his name is Lewis Browning. He's been eating a 374 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: Twinkie a day since nineteen. He's up the twenty thousand 375 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: wow dwarfed by the creator of the Twinkie, James Dewart. 376 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: He lived to be eighty eight and he ate an 377 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: estimated forty thousand twinkies in his lifetime. Not bad, not 378 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: bad at all. So it hats off to both of 379 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: those men. And I actually I was thinking maybe I 380 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: should start eating a twinkie a day and see what happens. 381 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: You know what they say, Josh, a twinkie day keeps 382 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: a doctor away. That's not true. That's not true because 383 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 1: they're really not great for you. But I think if 384 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: you in anything in moderation you don't got nut till 385 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: the twinkies, you're probably all right. But there's Chuck's final 386 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: thought on twinkies, which means twinkies are done right. I'm done. 387 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm done too, so we'll be done with twinkies now. 388 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: I really, actually I wanted to go eat a twinkie yeah, 389 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: we should have brought them up here, agreed. I told 390 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: you too. And you're too cheap to go buy him 391 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: for it could have expensed it, dude. Yeah, all right, 392 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: well maybe afterwards. Yeah. Okay, So Chuck Twinkies is done, 393 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: which means it's listener mail time. Josh, I'm gonna call 394 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: this listener mail from Amsterdam, alright, one of my favorite places, 395 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: as you know, I do know. Uh. This comes from 396 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: Robin in Portland, Oregon, and Robin was recently an Amsterdam. Actually, 397 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: the funny thing is Robin's friends Steph Stephanie wrote in 398 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: and told us the story and said, you know, my 399 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: friend Robin's to Chicken to write in for some reason. 400 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, tell Robin right in 401 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: and she'll make a listener mail with the story. Chuck 402 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: delivers on his promises, as she did. I was recently 403 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: an Amsterdam for a combination work holiday trip, staying in 404 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: a fabulous top floor apartment. I took a break from 405 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: work one day and wandered to the patio for some 406 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: fresh air, and I realized I closed a patio door 407 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: and locked myself out and was stuck. No phone, no keys, 408 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: no jacket, no way down and it was pouring down rain. Uh. 409 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: The neighbors heard my cries for help. They were able 410 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: to log into my email account, find local apartment contacts 411 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: phone number, and throw me their cell phone to make 412 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: the call. Luckily, the contact had a spare key and 413 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: was able to let her out in five hours after 414 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: she gets off work. So I hunkered down in a 415 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: small corner of the patio. Apparently she had a little 416 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: space like a two ft by two foot space where 417 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: she wasn't getting rained on for five hours waiting to 418 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: be rescued. And did I mention that? By stroke of luck, 419 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: I had my iPod with me and it just downloaded 420 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: several months worth of stuff you should know, silver lining, 421 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: exclamation all caps. Uh. In between learning all about face transplants, 422 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: exploding lakes, dejabu, flirting, riga mortis, I spent time stretching, 423 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: doing jumping jack, sweeting the plants, and taking short naps. Uh. 424 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: It was one of the best five hours spent doing 425 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Really, do I take a step back and 426 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: just have the time to do that. Josh and Chuck, 427 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: You're you both keep me informed, kept me informed, entertained, 428 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: and sane, and thanks to our day together I was 429 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: able to flex my intellectual muscle by holding my own 430 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: on who owns the ocean debate with other international travelers. 431 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: So she says, her friends Steph turned us on to 432 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: uh turn her onto the show and thanks a lot, 433 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: keep up the good work and she has a loyal listener. 434 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: So she was stuck out on a porch and Amsterdam 435 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: and we got her through. That's excellent, pretty cools. What's 436 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 1: her name? Cool? Robin of Portlands Order Robin? 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