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Speaker 7: says episode three eighty eight of the Antiicmploring Podcast presented

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Speaker 7: Audio Nothing changes and more on that in the weeks

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Speaker 7: to come, of course, a lot to get to. Today

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Speaker 7: on UFC two eighty four, I just have to say

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Speaker 7: off the top, man, gosh, it's amazing when you don't

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Speaker 7: see sort of the complexion of the sport change. The

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Speaker 7: fan base change is a big deal in Perth, Western Australia.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 7: That was as festive and intense a fight week as

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Speaker 2: It looked like it.

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Speaker 8: Man, the environment seemed amazing, of the crowd that night

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Speaker 2: And man did that card deliver?

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Speaker 7: Ray Longgo coming up in about twenty minutes. I do

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Speaker 7: the building. We could have sold sixty thousand tickets in Perth.

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Speaker 7: But we were in a venue that has about fourteen

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Speaker 7: to read this lovely letter from my friend Caitlin. And

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Speaker 7: I'll read it quickly, as I often do. It's incredibly

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Speaker 7: to one another. Secondly, it is so incredibly generous of

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Speaker 7: you'd like My comment meant the world to me, but

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Speaker 7: barely verbalize what had happened to Dave on the phone.

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Speaker 7: it's just a really cool thing. But her care package

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Speaker 7: we all felt it. But man, enough about that, because

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Speaker 7: Islama Kashev and Alexander Volkanovsky beyond delivering in what was

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Speaker 7: will be open today, but it is Islam Kashev ken

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Speaker 7: Flow successfully defending his lightweight title unanimous decision forty eight

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Speaker 7: dissenting judge. Your thoughts on what was an outstanding main event,

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Speaker 2: I really do. I thought it was a phenomenal fight.

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Speaker 8: I think Volkanovsky, I think, you know, got more confident

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Speaker 2: He seemed like he was composed throughout.

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Speaker 8: Even allowed him to have the confidence to actually try to,

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Speaker 8: at Islam his way Islam, though, I think was underestimated

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Speaker 2: On my part. He doesn't have.

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Speaker 8: The most sophisticated footwork, he doesn't have the most sophisticated

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Speaker 8: excellent timing. And I think that size also came into

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Speaker 8: play as he was countering Volkanovsky very well with some

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Speaker 8: He had enough pop and enough timing on his punches

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Speaker 2: When you have a smaller man that you are rooting for.

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Speaker 8: We are naturally a lot of times kind of pulling

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Speaker 8: case for me as I was watching that fight live, John,

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Speaker 8: I said, man, that was a close fight.

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Speaker 2: I think Folk, you know, pulled it off. I went

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Speaker 8: I think it's important if we are to be intelligent

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Speaker 8: have an open mind enough to be able to change

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Speaker 8: our mind. And after watching that fight again, sound off,

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Speaker 8: no distractions looking at it to score. It was close,

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Speaker 8: but it was clear Isla mahashef won that fight. I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's how I scored it when I watched

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Speaker 7: I honestly don't know what to tell you. And if

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Speaker 8: Sure, no, absolutely, there is one caveat to round two

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Speaker 2: Now, this is very this is very important. Now.

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Speaker 8: The difference, as I'm watching in real time, was Islam

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Speaker 8: hurt Volcanov, Volkanovski hurt Islam, but Islam hurt Volkanowski. Now,

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Speaker 8: if you go back and watch those punches that Islam landed,

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Speaker 8: illegal shots. Those technically wouldn't count. However, watching in a

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Speaker 2: But that's what made it even on the striking.

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Speaker 8: For me, and then what gave the round to Islam

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Speaker 7: Sorry and sorry for the landscapers. You know, when you

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Speaker 7: I will tell you though, for everybody complaining about my

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Speaker 7: I don't believe, and I'm getting like two new routers,

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Speaker 7: so we're going to be in business. And Cody says

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Speaker 7: And we're going to talk about these rounds, and certainly

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Speaker 7: we're going to talk about round four. So islammikashev. I

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Speaker 7: thought he struck really well, and I have a few

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Speaker 7: different questions for you in terms of maybe a second

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Speaker 7: meeting down the line. Alexander Volkanovsky seemingly suggested he needed

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Speaker 7: and final round. But what do you think about Volkanovsky

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know the problem with the job, right is

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Speaker 8: It gives options for both fighters to land shots, and

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Speaker 7: You're on point today. I try to not get too technical,

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Speaker 7: In the time it takes Alexander Volkanovsky to perpetually switch

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I just think that he will start

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Speaker 7: And you and I are a line that we thought

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Speaker 7: Islam Mikashev won what was a very close fight here.

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Speaker 7: But sometimes I'd like to ask guys in the fighter meeting,

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: We can talk all we want about your grappling and

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Speaker 7: beat Alexander Volkonovsky in a kickboxing match. I bet Islam

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Speaker 2: That is a good question.

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Speaker 8: I certainly think he proved that he's got the advantage there.

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Speaker 8: I Volkanovsky did a great job, great account of himself,

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Speaker 8: and yeah, it's very possible. I do think that he

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Speaker 2: I could watch those guys fight over and over again.

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Speaker 7: There were times where I thought Volkanovsky had some momentary lapses.

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Speaker 7: But obviously this is such a huge part of my

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 7: But I did watch this thing back, and I found

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Speaker 7: Finally I swung the pendulum to ISLAMI Kashev in round two.

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Speaker 7: But I found myself saying, I'm a human being, like

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Speaker 7: And because I had just given Islam round two, the

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Speaker 7: And I don't know, I know the judges aren't supposed

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Speaker 7: And I know him a little bit all over the place.

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Speaker 7: What would you say to people, well, what do you

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Speaker 7: think do you think I'm onto anything? In terms of

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Speaker 8: One hundred percent? I was thrown off by it. I'm

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Speaker 2: It's like, dude, don't do that. You know you're not baring.

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Speaker 8: And maybe that was a way of getting him to

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Speaker 8: But if Islam's laying those shots and you're acknowledging them

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Speaker 7: Absolutely incredible fight. I certainly think there's grounds for an

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Speaker 7: going away, all right, Kenny. Grapplers BJJ practitioners seem to

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Speaker 8: Fucking phenomenal question? Pardon my language, Okay. So I used

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Speaker 8: like where do you want to be You either want

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Speaker 8: First of all, typically you don't have gravity on your

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Speaker 8: He was actually hitting Uh Islam as well. If I

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Speaker 7: it feels like you're punching underwater, you know. I think

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Speaker 7: there's also probably something to be said. You know, your

434
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 7: mount is obviously a lot stronger than mine, and I

435
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 7: think maybe for some grapplers they don't feel like their

436
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 7: mount is great, and maybe they don't you know, dig

437
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 7: in the knees the right way on the sides or

438
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 7: whatever the fuck, so that maybe they feel more comfortable

439
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 7: off of the back. And I think McK maynard, who

440
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 7: is a Brazilian jiu jitsu Gracie Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt,

441
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Speaker 7: if I'm not mistaken, I was talking to him in

442
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Speaker 7: the airport lounge, and you know, he was sort of

443
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 7: intimating that Volkanovsky wasn't even sort of turning the right

444
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Speaker 7: way to try to get out, but that that is

445
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 7: the most dominant position for.

446
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Speaker 2: Him and back.

447
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, now, wherever you stand on that, Okay, the fucking

448
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 7: notion from some people, Shan she and I love you.

449
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 7: I respect your scorecard as much as anybody's in the space.

450
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 7: But the notion that Alexander Volkonowski won round four when

451
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 7: he doesn't think he wanted and none of the profighters

452
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 7: think he wanted, is absolutely absurd. And I don't even

453
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 7: want to inject the word criteria into the conversation right

454
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Speaker 7: because it gives people grounds on which to criticize. Maybe

455
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 7: go he's not listening to the No. People need to

456
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 7: give effective grappling the respect that it deserves. This doesn't

457
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 7: even have to do, in my humble opinion, with the

458
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 7: body triangle. How about the beautiful fucking takedown from Islam

459
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 7: Mai Kashev to actually get the fight to the floor

460
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 7: and whatever he did to try to get it to

461
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 7: the fence, to get to a more dominant area, to

462
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 7: keep the position that Volkanovsky didn't even come close to escaping.

463
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 7: And Shan She and I love you and sent me

464
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 7: a great email about his defense, so like, but when

465
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Speaker 7: on shan She and Severe Mma podcast, Kenny, he set

466
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 7: right like that it felt like ten minutes right. So

467
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 7: to me, therein lies the bias already that you don't

468
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 7: enjoy seeing Islam do this, the referees allowing him to

469
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 7: do this, This is effective grappling as far as I'm

470
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 7: concerned every day of the week. Yeah, there weren't a

471
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 7: ton of submission attempts me a little net crank. Maybe

472
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 7: he was in danger a little bit there, okay, but

473
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 7: like not at all here for the Volkanovsky one round

474
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 7: four crowd at all. And if we have to chant

475
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 7: whatever we need to do to make sure that that

476
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 7: we're all aligned on that I need to help.

477
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: The sport get to that place.

478
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Speaker 8: Let me do my best in trying to break this

479
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Speaker 8: down on why, John, you are correct? So if I

480
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 8: have if I have your back, can you just get

481
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 8: up and get away from me? You don't have that

482
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 8: option if I am mounted on you, you don't really

483
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 8: have that option of just getting up and.

484
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 2: Moving around the octagon wherever you please.

485
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Speaker 8: If we're talking about options, right, if like we're talking

486
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 8: about what kind of freedoms you have as opposed to

487
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 8: I have. The less freedoms you have, the more restrict

488
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 8: you are, the more control let's say I have over you.

489
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 8: Islam can get up whenever he wants and move around

490
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 8: the octagon however he wants. If I have your back

491
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 8: or if I'm mounting on you, you're not going anywhere.

492
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 8: So what does that say about control? What does that

493
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 8: say about the effectiveness of that grappling technique? Right, It'd

494
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 8: be one thing if you have Let's say, you know,

495
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 8: you have my back and I get up and I'm

496
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 8: walking around the octagon, I'm slamming you up against the cage.

497
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm doing all these different things to you.

498
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 8: Okay, maybe you have a point, but you can't do

499
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 8: that Volkanovski. Do you think Volkanovsky wanted to be there?

500
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 8: What he prefer to be there? Was that an even

501
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 8: position for both guys. Just because I can strike you

502
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 8: doesn't necessarily mean that I'm winning that position.

503
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: Volkanovsky did not want to be there.

504
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Speaker 8: It's restricting his freedom, it's restricting his movement, it's compressing

505
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 8: his body. It's a allowing Islam to hit things like

506
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 8: rear naked chokes and you know, arm bars if he choose,

507
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 8: if he was going to go for that. But again, positionally,

508
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 8: he's dominating you. If I can dictate where the battle happens,

509
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 8: if I can keep my enemy in a specific place

510
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 8: that is not good for the enemy.

511
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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, dude, Like I'm losing my mind this morning, honestly, Like,

512
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 7: and then I'm I'm reading Oh, you know, Islam landed

513
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 7: six shots in bulk, maybe four on the feet. This

514
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 7: is an effective grappling round.

515
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

516
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Speaker 7: I just don't understand why grappling doesn't get the respect

517
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 7: that it deserves. I don't care how aesthetically pleasing or

518
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 7: not it is. And as far as the shots on

519
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 7: the ground, yeah, Vulk was landing a little bit, so

520
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 7: it was fucking Makasha right. So like I'm all for

521
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 7: those who gave Volkanovsky rounds two, three, and five.

522
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: I don't argue with that.

523
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 7: I thought this was a very close fight overall. But

524
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 7: I'm just not here for people who gave Volkanovsky round four.

525
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 7: Go ask Alex how he felt about that round. Oh

526
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 7: my gosh, Oh my goodness, are you wearing red for

527
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 7: Valentine's Day?

528
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 5: Happy Valentine's Day.

529
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 7: Happy Valentine's Day to you, and my goodness, look at

530
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 7: your hair. It's time to see the barber.

531
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 5: Really, and I just passed up a haircut till next week.

532
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 8: I thought, you get more of your hair though, I

533
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 8: want to see more of your hair. You got it, yeah, subroom,

534
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 8: there we go.

535
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: That looks better.

536
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 7: Remember COVID hair long ago?

537
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: It was a lot.

538
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 5: Uh are you guys coming out firing today.

539
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 7: So can you give us a little more headroom if

540
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 7: you don't mind frame yourself up just so I can

541
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 7: see a little bit perfect. Great to see Raymond. How

542
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 7: was your weekend?

543
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 5: Really?

544
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 6: Really good? Great fights? How was your flight? I was

545
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 6: worried about you.

546
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 7: Thank you, my man. It was a long one.

547
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 6: Man.

548
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 7: I'm hurting for certain you know, I'm a little bit

549
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 7: dizzy as I sit here, if I'm being honest.

550
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, they are tough. You seem a little subdued. I

551
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 6: don't think you're going to be attacked as much.

552
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 7: Oh no, we're not due necessarily. We got some duck

553
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 7: Donuts coffee going here. Yeah, no, it's I will say

554
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 7: about the journey, it is pretty crazy, right. It was

555
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 7: thirty seven hours door to door on the way there.

556
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 7: And you know, even for the Aussi's who live on

557
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 7: the East coast, right, not a lot of them are

558
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 7: going to Perth. It's a beautiful place, and obviously they're

559
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 7: going to great lengths is Western Australia to try to

560
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 7: get people there. But man, that's as far as you

561
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 7: can go from South Florida, right. It's not good for

562
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 7: the long term health. Raimond no, wait, man, I tell.

563
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 5: You, and I'll tell you.

564
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 6: I don't think you're going to feel it for a

565
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 6: couple of more weeks, but sometimes it hits you like

566
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 6: two weeks.

567
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 5: Lady, just start waking up at like four in the morning.

568
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: You don't know why.

569
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 6: Those trips they killers, man, they are. They're fun, but

570
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 6: they are. They come a little bit of a price.

571
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 6: But anyway, all right, guys, let's start it out.

572
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 7: We got Alexander Volkanovski Islami Kashchev. Tell us how your

573
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 7: pay per view nite plays out? Where are you, who

574
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 7: you watching with? Are you muting the commentators? What does

575
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 7: a pay per view night look like? For Raymond?

576
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 6: I was supposed to go. I was supposed to go

577
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 6: to Joey Mortgage's house. I was dead tired.

578
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: Joey Mortgage.

579
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 7: Who's Joey Mortgage? Is his last name Mortgage?

580
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 5: That's his last name, Mortgage.

581
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 7: Get out of here. I knew a guy, Jared Drinkwater.

582
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 7: His last name's Mortgage.

583
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: Huh.

584
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 5: I know a girl Amy lipshits. That's true, you guys, buddy,

585
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 5: You guys, children.

586
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 7: Like a little delay. I think we've all heard.

587
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 6: Two little kids on Valentine's Day for you guys, it's

588
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 6: actually Valentine's Day, but you know, you know what I'm

589
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 6: talking about. Uh No, So I watched it by myself,

590
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 6: and I got to tell you I had a great time.

591
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 6: But first off, we got crucified for saying we thought

592
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 6: the odds were off. You know, we got crucified for that.

593
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: Crucified.

594
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 6: Oh, people on the you know yeah, yeah, I mean,

595
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 6: just I don't even get it. But look for before

596
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 6: we even get going. Fact, because great fight. Hats off

597
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 6: to both guys. Javia Mendez, Congratulations, my man, Joe Lopez, congratulations,

598
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 6: Eugene Bauman, whoever was involved with volcan I just congrats.

599
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 6: It's a great fight. Because whatever we say, I don't

600
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 6: want to be miscontrued. But yeah, to me, the real

601
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 6: winner in this fight is Alexander Volkanowski unequivocally for a

602
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 6: variety of reasons that we could get into, but uh man,

603
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 6: what a fight.

604
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 7: Well yeah, in terms of the whole pound for pound debate,

605
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 7: I don't necessarily want to lead the dance with that

606
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 7: right because I'm certainly okay with people who absolutely, unequivocally

607
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 7: believe that Islam deserves to be elevated. And I'm also

608
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 7: Okay that if the smaller guy fights like this against

609
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 7: the bigger guy, that he certainly doesn't relinquish the number

610
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 7: one spot. But that's not really what matters in all

611
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 7: of this. What matters is the rematch and how these

612
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 7: guys match up against each other and this fight. Are

613
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 7: you watching this to score it? Are you watching this

614
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 7: as a fan? Because I will say, as much as

615
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 7: I love my job, Kenny knows as well as anyone,

616
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 7: I can't wait until the next time I get to

617
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 7: sit down and watch a UFC pay per view as

618
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 7: a fan. But I sure as I'm not going to

619
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 7: be sitting there fine tooth comban rounds two and three

620
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 7: and telling the people at my house to be quiet

621
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 7: so I can fucking score the fight. I just want

622
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 7: to watch mixed machallotts.

623
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 6: I watched it as a fan, and that's my every

624
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 6: comment I make today will be as a fan, not

625
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 6: as a guy that was scoring the fight. So I'm

626
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 6: starting to learn I have to qualify a lot of

627
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 6: shit that I say, because you know, I try to entertain,

628
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 6: and you know we try to be funny, and you know,

629
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 6: we had a couple of insights and that maybe people

630
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 6: missed but uh, I don't know the powerper found thing

631
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 6: I never understood, and that, you know, calling out.

632
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 5: The little guy. I mean, do most people go up?

633
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 5: That was confusing to me too.

634
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 6: I mean, but fight, you know, you want to fight

635
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 6: a you know Gooseman or you know Leon or Comsat,

636
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 6: you know, go up and fight. That would have been different.

637
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 6: You call it, who's next?

638
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 5: Al Joe? Aljo Win's a couple of more fights, he

639
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 5: calls Al Joe out. I mean, I don't know. I mean,

640
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 5: I don't see it so to off the Vulcan for sure.

641
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 7: I mean, well, I don't necessarily see it that way

642
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 7: because of Volkanovsky's status as the best pound for pound

643
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 7: fighter in the world. But you're right, certainly for some

644
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 7: like Benil dar Usch and others, it was off putting

645
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 7: Ken flow right that his first title defense call out

646
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 7: was a featherweight. He did go into the belly of

647
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 7: the beast, and I get the credit for doing that,

648
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 7: but he.

649
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 5: Asked for it too, which I thought was a little crazy.

650
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think it seems like they had

651
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 6: a plan for that, which I don't know.

652
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: I could be off.

653
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 6: I'm just I thought, I think it's just weird calling

654
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 6: out a little guy, you know. So it's like you

655
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 6: walked into a Jim Kenny.

656
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: Who do you pick?

657
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 6: Hey, give me that guy one hundred and thirty pounds,

658
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 6: go get in the cage your pussy, you know, like

659
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 6: I don't know?

660
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right right?

661
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 7: So uh no and candidly. The one time I competed

662
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 7: in any sort of combat sports setting in a tough

663
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 7: man competition at Theta Kai fraternity, not unlike Ken Flow

664
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 7: against Vitor Shallon Roberto, I wanted to be the underdog.

665
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 7: I want to fight the bigger man.

666
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: Now.

667
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 7: I picked out a guy who was six' one Named Mike,

668
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 7: frolick who smoked a pack Of Marlborough read, today, Right

669
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 7: BUT i wanted to be the five foot nine inch

670
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 7: guy beating the six foot one inch, guy. RIGHT i

671
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 7: didn't want to pick on the bottom, theater you know

672
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 7: WHAT i? Mean so all, Right, so, YES i think

673
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 7: we all agree That Alexander volkanovsky in terms of his,

674
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 7: status goes through the roof right in terms of the

675
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 7: way he was able to. Compete BUT i also think

676
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 7: this is a very winnable fight for him and was

677
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 7: a winnable fight for. Him did you think when it

678
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 7: went to the judges scorecards that That volkanovsky had done

679
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 7: enough to, Win, like which way did you think it

680
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 7: was going to? Go BECAUSE i feel as, though at

681
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 7: least on, broadcast MAYBE i was almost too convicted For

682
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 7: islam BECAUSE i just felt like he had won the.

683
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 7: Fight what did you think, afterwards immediately after those twenty five, minutes, RIGHT.

684
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 6: I thought that based on the way that fight, Ended like,

685
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 6: Again i'm not scoring the, fight And islam's a great, fight,

686
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 6: GUYS i don't want to get like, Crucified but you,

687
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 6: KNOW i thought there was a possibility That volkanowski won the,

688
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: fight BUT i didn't think the judges were going to

689
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 6: give it to. Him you, know goes back to that.

690
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 6: AGAIN i you, know, look here's the. Problem so round,

691
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 6: five and again this is from a, FAN i wasn't

692
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 6: watching the. Fight round five was, Clear round one WAS

693
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 6: i think pretty. Clear WHAT i think he won, Three

694
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 6: but even the fourth round where he's in that body, lock,

695
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 6: RIGHT i, mean he's, laughing he's talking to, him there's

696
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 6: never a. Threat the guy's never doing. Anything he's in

697
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 6: a body triangle for five. Minutes he goes back to the.

698
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 6: Corner one guy's, exhausted or it looks. Exhausted the other

699
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 6: guy's talking like it's.

700
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 7: Annoyed what are you telling me about round? Four? Though

701
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 7: what are? You what are you? Saying because it wasn't five.

702
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 7: Minutes there's so much.

703
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 5: Exaggeration all, right how many? Minutes like?

704
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 7: Grappling? Man you, know like MAYBE i should go call

705
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 7: jiu jitsu or, something you, KNOW i mean you say five, minutes,

706
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 7: right it happened at the three and a half Minute.

707
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 5: Wait, wait, wait, wait let me let me qualify.

708
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 6: Again i'm just, saying if that's a pivotal, round that

709
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 6: even was a close. Round he controlled him for, sure

710
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 6: and he the, round but it's still it's still one

711
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 6: hundred and forty five pound guy he couldn't get rid

712
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 6: of and you were in a position that you finish everybody,

713
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 6: in or when he's on the.

714
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 5: Ground mostly, look he's run.

715
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: Through, people, Right what does that have to do with?

716
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 5: Though absolutely?

717
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 7: Nothing all, Right, Sorry i'm just a little.

718
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: Emotional absolutely.

719
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 6: Nothing i'm just, like, again these are just things thinking

720
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: about during the.

721
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 5: Fight that's WHAT i. Said i'm not scoring the. Fight

722
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 5: i'm as a.

723
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 6: Fan i'm, going holy, crap this kid is this this

724
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 6: kid is doing?

725
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 5: Great, man and he was in no danger at. All

726
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 5: he's talking to.

727
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 6: Him those shots might have been, little but at least

728
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 6: he was trying to do something.

729
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: Right and that's the.

730
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 8: THING i think that that narrative AND i talked about

731
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 8: that the start of the Podcast ray was, that you,

732
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 8: know the narrative is is that? Like and the same

733
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 8: thing with me As i'm watching that, FIGHT i Think

734
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 8: volkonowsky is winning this. FIGHT i think he won the,

735
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 8: fight BUT i think the narrative was the little guy's

736
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 8: doing really.

737
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: Good, yeah, yeah bigger, guy.

738
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 8: And every time he does, good things were, like, yes

739
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 8: he's putting the fight and we Forget round four was

740
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 8: even on the. Feet it was even striking on the.

741
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 8: Feet for, me the takedown happened For islam at three

742
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 8: minutes and twenty five. Seconds the back take happened at

743
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 8: three minutes and thirteen. Seconds that's a lot of control.

744
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 8: Time similar to how you know your Boy Al joe

745
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 8: had what people complained, about so you, know maybe.

746
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 5: He did land some vicious Punches. CANNY i, mean, yeah

747
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 5: it was a little.

748
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 6: Different i'd go back and look at both of those

749
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 6: together with, you AND i think at the end.

750
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 8: Of the, Day volkanovsky can't get up and leave from that.

751
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 8: Position islam's controlling, that you know WHAT i. Mean, YEAH

752
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 8: i think that's what it, was even on the. Feet

753
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 8: and then what does it come down to the grappling

754
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 8: control the effectiveness of grappling, control And islam certainly had.

755
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 8: That But i'm with, You i'm with you on that

756
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 8: Because volkanovski was showing, That, hey this is not having

757
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 8: an effect on, me, right did he?

758
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: Still did he win the? Round? Though probably? Not yeah or?

759
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: Not probably? NOT i would say, no, yeah.

760
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah i'm just saying it's And i'm going with, You,

761
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 5: John john's. Rebie don't we just eliminate that whole block over?

762
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 5: There let, me don't let me.

763
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 7: Anything, yeah you can talk To. Kenny i'm right.

764
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 5: Here, no But i'm With kenny like it was the little.

765
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 6: Guy so, Look i'm saying it's not, comfort it's.

766
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 8: Biased, well you, KNOW i Think, ALAN i Think Alan

767
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 8: Joe ban said it. Best he, said you, know, Listen

768
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 8: islam won the. Fight, yeah But volkanowski is still the

769
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 8: best power for pound fighter on the. Planet AND i

770
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 8: think he is that because of the quality of competition

771
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 8: that he's.

772
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: Faced at one hundred and forty five pounds, him you,

773
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: know going, up showing a level of skill in all

774
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: areas which is at such a high. Level for, me

775
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: he's still the best power for pound guy out. There so,

776
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: yeah if you look at, it let's go To islam.

777
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: Again i'm not trying to Doubt islam or say anything about.

778
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 8: It he's an unbelievable, fighter unbelievable obvious fights ago he

779
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 8: was Fighting Bobby, green the fight before, That Dan, Hooker

780
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 8: chiago moy, Says Drew.

781
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: Dover these are, middle middle of the pack guys in the.

782
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: Division these.

783
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 8: Aren't this Isn't, brian The Brian, ortegas The Max, holloways

784
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 8: The Jose, aldos the guys that have been.

785
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: Elite for long.

786
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 8: Time volkanowski's beating those, guys, high high level.

787
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: Guy so that's why for.

788
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 8: Me volkanowski and then this, performance as close as it,

789
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 8: was he remains the number one pound for pound fighter

790
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 8: in my.

791
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 5: Eyes, yeah there's no question.

792
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 6: About you have to look at the quality of fighters

793
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 6: that each guy has. Faced there's no. Question AND i

794
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 6: just think it was too soon. Anyway it just won the, title,

795
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 6: Right what are we talking? About penalful pal FOR i,

796
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 6: SEE i don't even like the, narrative which, is you, know.

797
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 6: BULLSHIT i guess they sell a fight WHATEVER i, THOUGHT

798
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 6: i just didn't like. IT i liked Everything folkanowski did

799
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 6: from before the, fight during the, fight the way he

800
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 6: handled the microphone after the, fight the way he handled

801
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 6: the crowd after the, fight just a class. Act and, like,

802
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 6: again does this mean anything to Any, No i'm just

803
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 6: making STATEMENTS i don't really, know AND i have no

804
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 6: dog in the race or what was in the. Race

805
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 6: whatever it's saying IS i both guys are great. Fighters

806
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 6: one guy's been defending his title for a long. Time

807
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 6: one guy just got the. Time so it was confusing to,

808
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 6: me why is this even coming?

809
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 7: Up you, Know, well the fight happened and And islam

810
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 7: did win it on all three judges scorecards that. Matter

811
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 7: and you, KNOW i do Believe islamikashev should be celebrated

812
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 7: more than he's being. CELEBRATED i love The volk celebration

813
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 7: anyone who follows me On. Instagram SO i gave him

814
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 7: a boss In Celtics. JERSEY i, mean we're very. Close

815
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 7: we have More australians that listen to this podcast Than.

816
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 7: Russians you, know but like it almost seems to me Like,

817
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 7: volkanovsky he's in this body lock right and, like but

818
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 7: he's like singing men at work down. Under so maybe

819
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 7: they should take the position away From islam or, something you.

820
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 7: Know that's where we're, going, Right, like let's take away

821
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 7: a fucking body triangle because he's not doing enough with. It,

822
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 7: no make the fighter get out of, It, KENNY i,

823
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 7: mean what are we doing?

824
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 6: Here so that's, sport but that's What that's What rogan's

825
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 6: point is with the cage.

826
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 5: Thing if a guy can't get off while you're breaking,

827
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 5: them let him see. Too he could, say the, guy

828
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 5: the guy against the cage could start. Singing what's the.

829
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 5: Difference it's the same.

830
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 7: Position, yeah all, RIGHT i have a quote THAT i,

831
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 7: NO i have another sixteen minutes with. You If i'm not,

832
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 7: mistaken DON'T I, yeah, Yeah.

833
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 6: I'm Just but, again, look If islam would have went

834
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 6: up and forty one hundred to one hundred and seventy, pound,

835
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 6: himp we're talking this way About.

836
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 5: Islam that's that's WHAT i. Feel.

837
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 6: ANYWAY i just Think i'm always going to be for

838
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 6: the underdog that you, Know i'm always going to go

839
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 6: that way BECAUSE i think that was my whole.

840
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 8: CAREER i think this is a BRILLIANT i think it

841
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 8: was a brilliant move By islam and his team to

842
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 8: do it in a way because, yeah, listen you know

843
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 8: the deal right between the weights and what they. Do

844
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 8: but the perception is and on his record he will

845
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 8: always have a win Over Alexander. Volkanowski AND i think

846
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 8: he did it at the right. Time did he deserve?

847
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: IT i. DON'T i don't think.

848
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 8: So volkanovsky played into his hand and, said oh, yeah,

849
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 8: Yeah i'll fight and he knew that he was going

850
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 8: to have an edge in certain areas and it turned

851
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 8: out well for.

852
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: Him.

853
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 8: Right it's like it's like When Floyd mayweather waited For Manny,

854
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 8: pachyow you, know to be many years after his.

855
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: Problem Now i'll fight you, now now you tell me.

856
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 6: Right but the difference, Is, kenny these guys both are

857
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 6: on the upward. Trajectory they're both still getting.

858
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: Better absolutely both in their.

859
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 5: Problem, yea both are Still that's The that was the

860
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 5: beauty of the. Fight the true nobody's down on a downward.

861
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 5: Slide it's not a legends.

862
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 6: Fight it's two guys that are at the top of the,

863
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 6: game champions in their, division which that that point was.

864
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 6: GOOD i just Think i'm always going to go for

865
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 6: the little guy to be on the.

866
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 7: Dog of, COURSE i still, think though there's further on

867
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 7: fairness TO Islami kashev like who first manifested. This it

868
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 7: Was Alexander volkanovsky When islam wasn't even the, champion, Right

869
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 7: Alexander volkanovsky twice cut weight and weighed in as a

870
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 7: backup with with out an optimal lightweight training. Camp he

871
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 7: was the backup For islam's championship win Over Charles. Olaver

872
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 7: If i'm not, mistaken, right so it was looking off

873
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 7: actually laid the foundation for. It islam oblige went to

874
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 7: his fucking, backyard you. Know so, yes he was fighting

875
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 7: the smaller. Man you, KNOW i feel like you need

876
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 7: to do an immediate. Rematch you, know, yeah You're rodriguez

877
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 7: like is probably my favorite fighter on the whole roster

878
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 7: at this, point but, LIKE i feel like you need

879
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 7: an immediate rematch between these two, guys real, quick ken

880
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 7: flow and again plenty More On, Thursday we're gonna just

881
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 7: be hammering this. HARD i can't believe that we haven't

882
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 7: even gotten to ya, Year, kenny what do you think

883
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 7: as far as we Have Arnold allen And Max. HOLLOWAY

884
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 7: i believe On april, Fifteenth Arnold allen there's nothing left

885
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 7: for him if he Beats Max. Holloway but of course

886
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 7: he would be Behind Yaya, rodriguez which means the. Featherweights you,

887
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 7: know not that we're in the business of defending interim,

888
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 7: Belts but what would you do right now With Islam

889
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 7: makashev and With Alexander volkonowski based on what we saw last?

890
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 8: Week my, goodness If i'm the If i'm THE, UFC

891
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 8: i think that is too good of a.

892
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: FIGHT i, MEAN i could watch those guys fight. Over

893
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: that was.

894
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 8: Phenomenal how rare is it that we get a one

895
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 8: hundred and forty five pound champ taking on one hundred

896
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 8: and fifty five pound. Champ it's rare There these are

897
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 8: special moments in our sport that we should. Cherish you

898
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 8: could do this, again you can run it back and.

899
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 8: AGAIN i think people would still be going back and

900
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 8: forth and who would win this. Fight that's what makes

901
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 8: great fights. Great so IF i would take the chance

902
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 8: to try to make this rematch. Again, however also knowing

903
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 8: how THE ufc. Operates they do not like holding up, divisions,

904
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 8: boy which is why yah hear And emmett fought for

905
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 8: that interim. Belt you can, go, hey, Listen, alex you

906
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 8: can always go back fight for that belt. Again, yeah

907
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 8: here you're the new now you are the actual. Champ

908
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 8: take on you, know the winner Of Arnold allen and.

909
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no they like they don't like holding up the,

910
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 6: divisions but they really like making a lot of.

911
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 5: Money and that's, exactly and that's the money fight to.

912
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 5: Make that'll hold up everything to make. Money if you.

913
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 6: Think, that if they care about you know who's coming,

914
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 6: up they want To they want to make money and

915
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 6: that's what this is a money.

916
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 5: Fight and, look as a, fan who makes the? Adjustments

917
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 5: that was a close fight the way who makes the?

918
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 5: ADJUSTMENTS i want to see THAT i don't.

919
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 7: Want, well talk to me about the. Adjustments talk to

920
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 7: me about the adjustments real. Quick on either.

921
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 5: Side, WELL i, think And kenny you could correct me

922
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 5: If i'm. Wrong there were a couple of scrambles at the.

923
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 6: Beginning it looked like both wanted to go for but he,

924
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 6: Goes i'm not expending the energy like you. Know now

925
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 6: he knows the. Strength now you heard him say that

926
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 6: the guy's not a bullshit. Artist if he said the

927
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 6: guy wasn't like for, him he wasn't. Drunk his bolt's

928
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 6: a freaking. Tank SO i don't. KNOW i don't know

929
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 6: who's going to be strong next to, Him probably In,

930
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 6: gano but, uh but that's the. LIKE i Think voth

931
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 6: goes for it more and and the Adjustments islam makes

932
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 6: is maybe he doesn't spend the energy trying, to you, know.

933
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: Go for the.

934
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 6: Submissions maybe he doesn't feel like he gets them. In

935
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 6: maybe goes more for the ground and pound gets a better.

936
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 6: POSITION i don't. Know i'm just SAYING i want to

937
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 6: see what. Happens that was A i don't care who

938
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 6: won the, Fight and as sour As i'm, concerned you

939
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 6: could have called that a draw and everybody walks home

940
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 6: happy or. Unhappy but, dude run it back. Again this

941
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 6: was a close. FIGHT i bet you the second fight isn't.

942
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 6: CLOSE i don't know which way it, goes BUT i

943
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 6: bet you they both learned a lot in that.

944
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 5: Fight, yeah they come out and that's WHAT i want to.

945
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 7: SEE i was sort of intimating That islam might strike

946
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 7: more in the. Rematch and you, know just BECAUSE i

947
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 7: do believe that he felt like he was on the

948
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 7: wrong end of the energy system equation at the end

949
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 7: of the.

950
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 6: Fight, yeah, Both, look there's no qual view if you're

951
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 6: based on that fight on energy system folk looks like

952
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 6: he could have won another three.

953
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 5: Rounds well that.

954
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 7: Right, YES i. Understand you, know some people, say, yeah

955
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 7: both won the fight because he can go ten.

956
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 6: Rounds no, listen but these are all. Comments these are all,

957
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 6: observations and we're not judging the. Fight that's why we

958
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 6: qualified as we're fans and we're just trying to incite.

959
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 6: Dialogue that's. It you, know if it's, good if it's.

960
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 6: Bad but both guys are great. Fighters that fight was.

961
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 6: Close that fight was very. Close they're both great. Fighters

962
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 6: run it back. Again you could probably run that back

963
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 6: in three months and not holding up too. Much let

964
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 6: everybody sit out for a. While, unfortunately you, know like,

965
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 6: Again Yaaria, rodriguez what a fricking fight that.

966
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 5: Guy, Had so, yeah let's feel it.

967
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 6: TOO i feel bad for, him but THAT i don't

968
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 6: even know the performance he put.

969
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: On maybe let's get to.

970
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 7: That, Yeah american N, Podcast, Yeah, Paul question results fifty

971
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 7: one point seven percent of you would like to See

972
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 7: Alexander bolkonowski defend his belt Against Aya Rodriguez forty seven

973
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 7: percent of you five thousand respondents in about ninety, minutes

974
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 7: forty seven percent if you want the, rematch one point

975
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 7: three percent want. Other i'm not sure, exactly maybe Maybe

976
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 7: benny Day, usch BUT i think he's Fighting Charles. Olivera

977
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 7: so all, Right, yah You're Rodriguez. RAY i Guess i'll

978
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 7: start with you on ya. Ear Domina cruz called him

979
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 7: one of one on the, broadcast AND i think it's

980
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 7: probably the most appropriate. DESCRIPTION i don't know THAT i

981
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 7: have a point of. Comparison he is as special and

982
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 7: unique as striker and well versed As i've ever, seen

983
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 7: and that says nothing of his cardio is. Grappling he's

984
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 7: the total, package AND i can't wait to see him

985
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 7: fight for the undisputed. Title But i'm glad that he's

986
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 7: going to have a belt forever because he put put

987
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 7: in a lot of hard years to get. There what

988
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 7: were your thoughts on your?

989
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 5: Ear superb?

990
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 6: Flawless you, KNOW i, mean you, know he got hit

991
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 6: a couple of, times but he's got That mexican herd

992
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 6: Even besides all the. Technique you, know he's got that outitude,

993
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: training which is never going to fail on my. Guarantee you,

994
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 6: know Those mexican fighters Like, chavez they could go one hundred.

995
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 5: Rounds they just you could beat them with a.

996
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 6: Bat SO i think he brings that intangible into the,

997
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 6: ring plus the, technique the, movement the. Kicks you, KNOW

998
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 6: i picked him to win just BECAUSE i thought he

999
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 6: would have upset him with the. Kicks but that's just

1000
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 6: one one. Aspect he's really a talented.

1001
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: Guy.

1002
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 6: Uh and that's the only PROBLEM i have with vol

1003
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 6: rematch And islam is that this FIGHT i don't think

1004
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 6: is an easy fight For. VOLK i, Mean i'd love to.

1005
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 6: Help everybody wants to see that fight. Too so for THE,

1006
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 6: ufc it was just a win, win, because, YEAH i

1007
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 6: think it opens up so many. Possibilities maybe the mystique

1008
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 6: Of islam has been taken away a little, bit you,

1009
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 6: know for other guys to come in, there you. Know

1010
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 6: Yeahria rodriguez, ADDED i, mean what a performance he. HAD

1011
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 6: i want to see that fight With volkanowski. TOO i

1012
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 6: want to see How volk deals with. Him it's it's

1013
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 6: they're in a great. Spot they're all all of them. Are,

1014
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 6: yeah Hear Voltan. Islam they have great fights ahead of,

1015
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 6: them and it's a win for the, fans and it's

1016
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 6: a one hundred percent of win for THE.

1017
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 7: Ufc, kenny before we spin it forward for, year your

1018
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 7: thoughts on his performance against the guy in Josh, ammon

1019
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 7: who's very hard to put, away had never been submitted.

1020
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 7: Before and have you ever seen anything or anyone Like

1021
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 7: Yahia rodriguez?

1022
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: BEFORE i Think.

1023
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 8: EMMETT i Think yahyer had emmittt beat on, speed he

1024
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 8: had a beat on. Athleticism and, yeah here always comes

1025
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 8: into each and every fight with new skills And i'm

1026
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 8: just so, impressed uh with his evolution as a. FIGHTER

1027
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 8: i think offensively he is a problem for, anybody Including. Volkanovsky,

1028
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 8: ye he's extremely. Dangerous, HOWEVER i still question some of

1029
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 8: the defensive. CAPABILITIES i don't know if he's sophisticated enough

1030
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 8: defensively to deal With. Volkanovsky but as far as, offense

1031
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 8: he's a big time. PROBLEM i kind of see him

1032
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 8: Like CHARLES. Olivera where's when things are going well and

1033
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 8: when he's just overwhelming me with, offense you're.

1034
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: Screwed he's gonna take you. Out he's just too.

1035
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 8: Good but if you get him in certain defensive positions,

1036
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 8: again we you know you look at the first. Round

1037
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 8: let me be super critical. Here he did get caught

1038
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 8: in the side Control josh. Emmittt that's not what he.

1039
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 8: Does he's not great at necessarily controlling you and taking

1040
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 8: advantage of those positions on the.

1041
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: Ground BUT i do think that Em it was just.

1042
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 8: Overwhelmed he didn't know where he was getting hit. From

1043
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 8: he didn't know where Where yayir.

1044
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: Was yaya is just.

1045
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 8: Unbelievable. Man, again that that. SPEED i keep talking about.

1046
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 8: This i'm like a broken. Record but, yeah, dude just

1047
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 8: that speed alone is a. Lot it is a lot

1048
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 8: to deal. With you talk about his skills, now his,

1049
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 8: chin his, pacing how.

1050
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: He puts it all.

1051
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 8: TOGETHER i, mean it will give you a headache if

1052
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 8: you're a coach trying to break that guy down and

1053
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 8: how it's a big time. Problem BUT i still Hold

1054
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 8: volkanovsky in such high regard WHERE i think that he

1055
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 8: still wins that. Fight not, easy BUT i still think

1056
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 8: he wins. THAT i would love to see. It Like ray,

1057
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 8: said there is no. Loser if he fights his mom,

1058
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 8: again that's a. Win if he wins a ya A vegas,

1059
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 8: again that's a win as well for the.

1060
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 5: Fans, yeah it's a great.

1061
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 6: Thing and plus it's not even how fast he, is

1062
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 6: it's how fast he is with his fast. Footwork like

1063
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 6: it's just side the, side you're getting, kicked you could

1064
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 6: he's off, set you go to step, in you're getting. Interrupted.

1065
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 6: It it's frustrating his, ship it really. Does But kenny's

1066
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 6: right on defensively a little. Bit that's WHY i, SAID

1067
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 6: i think he's GONNA i think he's gonna rely on

1068
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 6: That mexican.

1069
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 5: CHIN i think that might help him a little.

1070
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 6: Bit but even on the, ground you, know not THAT

1071
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 6: i know he's evolved since The Frankie edgar, fight but

1072
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 6: like if he went up In Fort, ISLAM i would

1073
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 6: Think islam just wins that. Fight he's he should be

1074
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 6: a huge, underdog even if with his striking. CAPABILITY i

1075
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 6: just think on the floor he's not going to be

1076
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 6: able to survive Like. Vulkanowski AND i would.

1077
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 8: Absolutely AND i would add in his ability to perform

1078
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 8: when he needs. To there were so many eyes on.

1079
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 8: Him this is for the interim, belt and he maximized this.

1080
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 8: Opportunity that is a sign of a great, fighter just.

1081
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 6: Phenomenal he couldn't have had a better knight even with getting.

1082
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 6: Hit that even adds to it more like he JUST

1083
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 6: i don't think he was ever in. TROUBLE i, mean

1084
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 6: he just you, know he got, caught you know WHAT i.

1085
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 6: Mean so even When bolk went down to one knee

1086
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 6: almost that might reminded me Of Brian. Stamp didn't he

1087
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 6: do that in one fight where they would just swing

1088
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 6: and he bounced off.

1089
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 5: A knee Against Van Really, sylvieah, yeah, right that.

1090
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 6: Seemed like it was the same. Thing but those guys

1091
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 6: did just going and you can't stop. Him so, yeah

1092
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 6: he might have been you could consider, That but that's

1093
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 6: about his least of a knockdown as you're going to.

1094
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 7: Get, yeah You're rodriguez is a very good. GRAPPLER i

1095
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 7: think he's arriving at this championship precipice at the right.

1096
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 7: TIME i think it stands to reason that the physical

1097
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 7: strength Of Alexander volkanovski Or Islam makashev would be a

1098
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 7: lot in a grappling. Setting even Al Jamaine STERLING i

1099
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 7: think would pose some significant problems For. Kayi rodgeriguez potentially,

1100
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 7: physically but sometimes that's just me leaning into an aesthetic

1101
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 7: because he's a little bit, wiry you. Know, yeah, Yeah,

1102
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 7: Kenny you're absolutely right in terms of him being a

1103
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 7: big game player and rising to the. Occasion he's been

1104
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 7: a lot of big spots and largely has has come up.

1105
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 7: LARGE i haven't had the chance to call a lot

1106
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 7: of its, fight SO i can just tell, you like

1107
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 7: watching this dude, Live i've never fucking seen anything like,

1108
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 7: it you, Know AND i haven't called most of his,

1109
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 7: career so whatever that that's. Worth in, candily some of

1110
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 7: the fights THAT i have, worked like The Frank jeger,

1111
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 7: fight he was on the wrong side of, that The

1112
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 7: Bright ortega, fight which was very. Quick all, Right so

1113
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 7: Al Jamine Sterling ray posted three or four days. AGO

1114
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 7: i don't know if these are pictures from a long

1115
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 7: time ago or if he was just In, colombia but

1116
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 7: he did get injections in both of his, wrists his,

1117
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 7: shoulder his, bicep and his.

1118
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 5: Neck yeah that was that was last.

1119
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 7: Week, Okay SO i guess it's neither here nor, there

1120
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 7: SO i don't know how it affects his, timeline but

1121
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 7: he did right on social media over the. Weekend IF

1122
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 7: i rolled With Alexander, VOLKANOVSKY i THINK i one Think

1123
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 7: i'd sub him one or two, times not saying it'll

1124
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 7: be easy. Anymore he does his, homework BUT i believe

1125
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 7: i'd get. Him so an inference there can flow from

1126
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 7: Al Jamain sterling that maybe at one point in time

1127
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 7: it would have been easy when rolling with volk to

1128
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 7: sub him a couple of. Times Ken, fley you have

1129
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 7: anything for us On Aljamain sterling's clothes before we get

1130
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 7: to his chief Corner Ray, LOW i.

1131
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 8: Think it's very, interesting you, know listen. Out al jo

1132
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 8: is a guy THAT i think could go up to

1133
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 8: one hundred and forty five. POUNDS i think he's strong.

1134
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 8: ENOUGH i think he has the size as. Well and,

1135
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 8: again when you have that singular, skill like Al joe

1136
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 8: has not necessarily singular, skill but when you have that

1137
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 8: that part of your game that is so, strong you're

1138
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 8: gonna believe that you could take on a lot of.

1139
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: People AND, i you, KNOW i don't know.

1140
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 8: If he could Submit volkanowski, necessarily but there's no question

1141
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 8: That volkanowski would have a big time problem getting out

1142
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 8: of that body. Triangle and Al joe obviously is so

1143
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 8: good at keeping people. Down he knows how to outposition.

1144
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 8: You that'd be interesting and it maybe maybe it was

1145
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 8: a little uh teased to Al. Joe maybe going up

1146
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 8: to one forty five one, day who.

1147
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 5: Knows, Yeah And i'll just say one. Thing i've seen him.

1148
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 6: Choke out way bigger and heavier guys that are really.

1149
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 6: Talented that that's that's All i'm.

1150
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 5: Gonna believe like.

1151
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: That, yeah oh, yeah.

1152
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 6: Yeah you can't let the guy on your neck for.

1153
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 6: Sure he's got great squeeze. Strength you, know he knows. How,

1154
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 6: look he knows how to use his. Body he's proven

1155
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 6: it And i've seen, it, so you, know choking out,

1156
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 6: BOTH i don't.

1157
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 5: Know he might be. UNCHOKEABLE i think some of those

1158
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 5: guys are out, There it just.

1159
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 7: Takes bolkanowski used that exact word after The ortega. Fight,

1160
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 7: yeah in this fighter meeting most recently with, us he,

1161
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 7: said after going through that, EXPERIENCE i kind of feel.

1162
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 7: Unchokeable yeah, yeah.

1163
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 6: Yeah look he, didn't he wasn't. Panicking we saw, that

1164
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 6: So god bless. Him but, yeah, No Ale, joe you.

1165
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 5: Can't you can't give. Him you can't give him anything for.

1166
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 7: Sure and, lastly on that fight, yeah You're rodriguez And Josh.

1167
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 7: Emmtt i'll just, say you, know thrill versus agony can.

1168
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 7: Flow Josh emmett will be thirty eight On march, fourth

1169
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 7: and unfortunately for, him when he finally got to that championship,

1170
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 7: setting there was A mexican there that is just a real.

1171
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 7: Problem but you, know a great career For Josh, emmitt

1172
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 7: And i'm not saying that he's walking. AWAY i don't

1173
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 7: think that it's out of the realm of possibility that

1174
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 7: he could, rebuild but featherweight's awfully, crowded and, uh you,

1175
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 7: know he had a near fit career in a lot

1176
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 7: of respects and getting this point in, time like got

1177
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 7: knocked out By Jeremy stevens some circumstances there a split decision.

1178
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 7: LOSS i believe that lightweight or maybe even at, Featherweight

1179
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 7: BUT i don't know any thoughts On Josh emmett just

1180
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 7: not getting untracked and having this championship fight kind of

1181
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 7: end before it.

1182
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 8: Began if you're a fighter and you've been Following Josh emmitt's,

1183
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 8: career you can only respect someone Like Josh. Emmett he's

1184
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 8: a Guy i've never heard him say a bad thing about.

1185
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 8: Anybody he was never out there to be. Famous he

1186
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 8: was never out there kind of like trying to show,

1187
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 8: off or he was there to. Compete he was an excellent.

1188
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 8: COMPETITOR i feel like he's pretty tired talking about, it

1189
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 8: but He's but, Dude i've always been impressed With josh

1190
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 8: ammittt did crazy.

1191
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: Power he's always been that guy.

1192
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 8: That's been overlooked and, underestimated and he has surprised more

1193
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 8: often than. Not SO i think he was a phenomenal

1194
00:54:54,920 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 8: fighter or a phenomenal fighter to. Watch and, yeah, MAN i, still,

1195
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 8: well he's gonna give a lot of people trouble if

1196
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 8: he stays in that.

1197
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: Division he's going to be really tough to be always will.

1198
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: Be BUT i think.

1199
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 8: Where he maybe couldn't make that next jump was besides his,

1200
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 8: power there was nothing else that really stood out where

1201
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 8: he can make the proper adjustments in a.

1202
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 2: Fight you, know like you need two. Things you either

1203
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: need to be or.

1204
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 8: Both you need to either be extremely technical or extremely

1205
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 8: athletic to change the course of a fight right to

1206
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 8: make those adjustments to be able to come back and

1207
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 8: do something, Special AND.

1208
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 2: I think he kind of lacked those.

1209
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 8: Things certainly an athletic, guy not that like high high

1210
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 8: level of. Athleticism so, YEAH i think that's maybe where

1211
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 8: where maybe he didn't have that extra. Oomph but still yeah,

1212
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 8: HERE i don't. KNOW i, Mean yayer just had also

1213
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 8: an incredible. Performance SO i don't think there's a whole

1214
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 8: lot of people in the world that would have been

1215
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 8: ready to beat someone like yeah.

1216
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 5: Here, yeah, Look cat's off To Joshim. Ray he's getting

1217
00:55:59,080 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 5: up there in.

1218
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 6: Age we, know even the light of weight cliss is

1219
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 6: that's not easy to do where where he's, At so

1220
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 6: hats off to. Him BUT i think for this, fight,

1221
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 6: yeah he had the perfect dance. Partner you, know he

1222
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 6: had the good you know power in his right. Hand you,

1223
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 6: know when you have movement you can kick like. That

1224
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 6: it's pretty easy that you could see how you, Know

1225
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 6: it's just the interruptions are getting. In he's not just

1226
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,479
Speaker 6: standing there having a boxing match with the, guy which

1227
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 6: would have been to you know, him its, favor of,

1228
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 6: course BUT i you, KNOW i WOULD i wish. HIM i,

1229
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 6: mean because, he like you guys, said he's he seems

1230
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 6: like a great. GUY i can't SAY i know, him

1231
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 6: BUT i would have loved to have seen him have

1232
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 6: that opportunity three or four years, ago you, know when he.

1233
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 6: Was but he looks like a guy that stays in.

1234
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 6: Shape he's not fucking, around you. Know SO i mean

1235
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 6: for a guy that, AGE i think he was absolutely absolutely.

1236
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 6: Phenomenal uh but just too too. Much that kid. Had

1237
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 6: that guy just he had he had just a performance

1238
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 6: of the. Night he really. Did and again it's part

1239
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 6: partly because he had to work wry about one thing

1240
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 6: and you, Know emmett had to worry about forty five.

1241
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 7: Things and you're absolutely, right and that's a.

1242
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 5: Problem, yeah You're.

1243
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 7: Roderiguez actually said in our fighter meeting that the game

1244
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 7: plan here is. Simple it's not, easy but it's.

1245
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 5: Simple all.

1246
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 7: Right before we let you, Go, RAY i know you're

1247
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 7: an equal opportunist when it comes to. PODCASTS i, mean

1248
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 7: just Google Ray longo guys on a lot of. Shows

1249
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 7: SO i just want to, know, UH i, mean do

1250
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 7: you get like paid per show by extra rounds because

1251
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 7: we actually have a new contract to offer you believe.

1252
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 5: It, WOW i get paid by the quarter that helps.

1253
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 7: You they pay you by. Quarter yeah, man that's. Amazing all, Right,

1254
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 7: well come.

1255
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 6: On, wait you KNOW i love you, Guys come, on

1256
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 6: what DID i tell?

1257
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 5: You it's a?

1258
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 7: First we laid the foundation for that.

1259
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 5: Doesn't stand For flora.

1260
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 7: For, first, right we lay the.

1261
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 5: Foundation that's what it means to. Me, First that's ALL

1262
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 5: i could. Say well, first if.

1263
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 7: We could go, back we'd probably have it Be florian

1264
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 7: and AN i can call it.

1265
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: After BUT i.

1266
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 7: Digress but, no, yeah, no we laid the foundation for

1267
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 7: your whole broadcasting. Career do we?

1268
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: Not do we?

1269
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 5: Not? All?

1270
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 7: Right so to the, minute men and women out there

1271
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 7: right coming in children's ears right, now we laid the

1272
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 7: whole fucking foundation along the broadcasting career and several. Others

1273
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 7: janni The, greek where are you?

1274
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: At my? Man no.

1275
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 7: Understanding that guy's just. Stuff that guy would have succeeded without. Us,

1276
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 7: hey have a great day at a better. Evening, Okay hey.

1277
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 6: Guys THAT i am glad you're back safe and, hope

1278
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 6: uh hope there's as little jet leg as possible This saturday.

1279
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 6: Night And Azim Saudi, Cup i'll be leaving For Vegas.

1280
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 6: Thursday thanks for reminding. Me uh but it's going to

1281
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Speaker 6: be a great. Fight he had a great, camp looking forward.

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Speaker 5: To be back In.

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Speaker 6: Vegas it's all, Good still good out here that long.

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Speaker 5: Ago we got a businy schedule coming.

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Speaker 7: is that what the direct quote?

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Speaker 5: Was?

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Speaker 7: Friggin can you just give it to us full throttle

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Speaker 7: once before you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah there is The Ray longo mette every week here

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Speaker 7: on The Anakin Flooring. Podcast all, right, So, KENNY i

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Speaker 7: asked Ray longo about his pay per view.

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Speaker 5: Setup.

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Speaker 7: Right he didn't answer the question as to whether or

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Speaker 7: not he mutes the. Commentators you, know hopefully you're not

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Speaker 7: Like Dominic cruz and watching In, spanish right to just

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Speaker 7: jab at. Us you, KNOW i went To cruz's house

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Speaker 7: while he was training For Cheeto vera to watch a

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Speaker 7: fight card with him and the dudes watching the broadcast In.

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Speaker 2: Of, it ye, say he Spoke.

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Speaker 7: Spanish tell us about YOUR ufc two eighty four viewing.

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Speaker 7: Wife tell us about your pay per view?

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Speaker 8: Night, yeah SO I i watched It my wife kind

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Speaker 8: of came in for the last couple of, fights you,

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Speaker 8: know BUT i was kind of watching it by.

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Speaker 2: MYSELF i. Was it was, tough. DUDE i was on

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Speaker 2: like three four hours of sleep AND i stayed up

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Speaker 2: to the very. END i. WAS i was proud of

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Speaker 2: my old ass for doing.

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Speaker 7: That so is your wife there for The Jack Dela

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Speaker 7: Matt atlanta?

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Speaker 2: Fight but she was.

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Speaker 7: Not she was. Not she missed a shout. Out all,

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Speaker 7: right yeah you like that shouting out camp pluck. MAN

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Speaker 7: i needed to shout out she. Was i'm sorry she.

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Speaker 7: Was she, Was, yeah see What i'm doing? There you

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Speaker 7: know you're then not shouting. Out the podcast had a

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Speaker 7: shout out my, guy you. Know Michael bisbee sort of

1323
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 7: intimated That Jack Dela madelena was the best boxer in THE,

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01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 7: ufc and you seem to see you just light up

1325
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 7: when you talk about this guy like few other. FIGHTERS

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01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 7: i don't know if that means you want to go To,

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Speaker 7: Perth Western australia to say. Hello it's pretty, far but

1328
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Speaker 7: what do you have to what do you have? Horizon

1329
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 7: Jack Dela Matt. Atlena he sort of intimated that he

1330
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,959
Speaker 7: was hunkering down for fifteen hard minutes With Randy brown

1331
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 7: and needed two minutes and thirteen.

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01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 2: Seconds, oh he shot. Up he's a.

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01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 8: Professional that's why he. Did Randy brown is really. Tough

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01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 8: that was that was wasn't an easy one for me to. Pick,

1335
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 8: however it is that boxing and ability to get on

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01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 8: the inside and land hard shots that ultimately had me

1337
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 8: Pick Jack dela dela Mode.

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Speaker 2: LENA i think he is so clean with his.

1339
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 8: BOXING i think there's you, know it's one thing everyone

1340
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 8: always looks and oh my, gosh he's so, fast he's so.

1341
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 8: Powerful but seeing slick head, movement seeing you, know the

1342
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 8: ability to create angles and be sophisticated with what you,

1343
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 8: do that is, rare you.

1344
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: KNOW i The conor McGregor had.

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01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 8: That he was way ahead of a lot of people

1346
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 8: when it came to that when he came into THE.

1347
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: UFC a lot of people have caught up.

1348
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 8: Now But jack dela Mode lena also kind of has

1349
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 8: that other level of boxing and ability to a problem

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01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 8: solve in real time because of that experience with his

1351
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 8: hands and his ability to move his. Feet, man the

1352
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 8: dude is he is so. Good Randy brown is tough.

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01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 8: Man that is a tough. Matchup, stylistically that is a

1354
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 8: tough matchup because of the length and size Of Randy.

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01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 8: Brown and, man he just finds a. Way just a cool, customer,

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01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 8: Man that's ALL i could. Say every TIME i see him, fight,

1357
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 8: dude he's just, like this is just like another training

1358
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Speaker 8: session for.

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Speaker 2: Him it seem. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah So i've often, said you, know there may be

1361
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Speaker 7: mixed martial arts minds as sharp analytically As Ken, flows

1362
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 7: BUT i don't think there are minds that are. Sharper

1363
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Speaker 7: and someone THAT i would put on your level is

1364
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 7: Probably Dominant, cruz and he's able to extract certain things

1365
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 7: in these fighter meetings that maybe other guys. Aren't and

1366
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 7: he was talking About Jack Della, matdelena who's a righty

1367
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 7: but he fights South. Pond he switches stances, right and

1368
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 7: he basically Got jack to sort of say that it

1369
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 7: was surfing with his right foot forward that helped him

1370
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 7: develop that. Style and Then dom went on to, say

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01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 7: are you more offensive or defense in certain? Stances? Right

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01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 7: and you, know Because dom was basically intimating, like when you're, orthodox,

1373
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 7: bro you're definitely not, defensive you, know. Right jack's, like

1374
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 7: let me think about. It he's, like, Yeah i'm offensive

1375
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 7: and that's. Right but it was just really interesting to

1376
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 7: hear him talk about. That and obviously he is a

1377
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 7: very sophisticated switch dance fighter and Caught Randy brown behind

1378
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 7: the ear and then you, know obviously he has a herd.

1379
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 7: Opponent but you, know some of these guys really know

1380
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 7: how to put people away with a choke and other

1381
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 7: people do. Not you, KNOW i don't have good. Submissions you,

1382
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 7: Know Jack Dela madelana obviously has, submissions so probably gonna

1383
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 7: get a top fifteen. Name AND i think bigger, PICTURE i,

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01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 7: Mean perth is really far, away but, this, well this

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01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 7: guy can main event A ufc fight night In sydney

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01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 7: And brisbane And melbourne And. PERTH i MEAN i said

1387
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 7: budding superstar on the, broadcast AND i don't think it's overstating.

1388
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 7: It he called For Vicente. Luke seems Like Jack Della.

1389
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 7: Maddelena he's ready for the video, game he's ready for

1390
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 7: The top fifteen and everything.

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Speaker 2: Else great call, out great. FIGHT i think that's.

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Speaker 8: Interesting, yeah absolutely This you Know australia has a star

1393
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 8: At Jack Dela, modelena no question about. It and you,

1394
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,959
Speaker 8: Know i'd like to get back To Randy brown BECAUSE

1395
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 8: i Think Randy brown was losing. FOCUS i get what

1396
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 8: he was trying to, do but he was getting a

1397
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 8: little too cute against a guy that is just way too.

1398
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 8: Dangerous SO i think he lost focus and allowed you,

1399
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:57,959
Speaker 8: Know jack to really take.

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Speaker 2: Over but, YEAH i love, that you.

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Speaker 8: main event In australia to build that dude, up because

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1404
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Speaker 8: my forces around If i'm THE ufc because he's something special,

1405
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Speaker 8: man the way that he, fights the skills that he.

1406
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Speaker 2: Has let's, go.

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