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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: Single best idea in the first full week of the

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Speaker 2: year jobs report on Friday, Goldman Sachs coming out with

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Speaker 2: a tepid look. Thank you David Miracle for sending that

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Speaker 2: over consensus is one sixties. I don't know where the

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Speaker 2: whisper number is. Michael McKee knows that, but they're down

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Speaker 2: at one twenty with an elevated unemployment rate to four

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Speaker 2: point three percent. Just one view of that from you

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Speaker 2: on Azziisen team over at Goldman Sachs. We spoke with

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Speaker 2: Seth Carpenter of Morgan Stanley today, wide ranging discussion, really

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Speaker 2: really interesting, and one of the great things we talked

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Speaker 2: about was just the state of the economy and the

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Speaker 2: path forward here. Seth Carpenter of Morgan Stanley.

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Speaker 1: So, I think every year and there's a bit of revision,

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Speaker 1: I suspect there is a good chance that we're going

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Speaker 1: to see a bit more than I think in the

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Speaker 1: near dart right over the next three months, that so

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Speaker 1: called residual seasonality that we've seen in the PCE inflation numbers.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a real possibility here that could throw

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Speaker 1: the throw a real curveball for the FED, I will

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Speaker 1: say the numbers on employment right, given how much immigration

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Speaker 1: we've had over the past couple of years, and as

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Speaker 1: the BLS tries to catch up with sort of their

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Speaker 1: different surveys, I think we could see some more revisions

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Speaker 1: this year. Twenty twenty five is probably the most difficult

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Speaker 1: forecasting year since twenty twenty and maybe early twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one when we had COVID. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: really tricky year for forecasting.

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Speaker 2: That's a really important comment from a guy I worked

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Speaker 2: at the Federal Reserve, at the Treasury, and of course

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Speaker 2: his work at Princeton under Ben Bernanke a number of

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Speaker 2: years ago. Further seth Carpenter here, I'm not so much

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Speaker 2: like getting a crystal ball out and gaming the future

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Speaker 2: and all the marketing blah blah blah forecasts. He taught

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Speaker 2: about the risks ahead.

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Speaker 1: You know, usually we do our year ahead forecasts and

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to be a bit of a roadmap for people.

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Speaker 1: But now this time around, it's more of a set

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Speaker 1: of risks and how to start to create a framework

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Speaker 1: for those risks. So for economic policies that might move

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Speaker 1: the macro needle, you know, we break it down into

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Speaker 1: trade policy, tariffs, immigration policy, fiscal policy, and then deregulation.

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Speaker 1: And what might be slightly controversial is we've said for

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Speaker 1: those last two fiscal policy and deregulation, maybe move those

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Speaker 1: off the table for twenty twenty five for macro implications.

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Speaker 1: Deregulation I think is going to be huge at a

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Speaker 1: micro level and definitely for individual sectors in parts of

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Speaker 1: the equity market, But in terms of GDP inflation, that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing, I'm not convinced it matters at all

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Speaker 1: for at least for twenty twenty five. Similarly, fiscal policy

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Speaker 1: we're at least for now assuming the Congress spends the

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Speaker 1: better part of the year extending the tax cuts, and

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Speaker 1: so again it off the table for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: So we're really looking at tariff policy and immigration policy

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Speaker 1: as the key factors here.

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Speaker 2: Seth Carpenter of Morgan Stanley. The view Ford is simple,

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Speaker 2: an eventful year. There will be a focus on international relations,

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Speaker 2: the politics of America as we moved to the inauguration,

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Speaker 2: But I really have to say we're going to stay

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