1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: For the first time this season and the first time 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: in two seasons, and her head coach Jonathan Gannon. The 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Cardinals will play in primetime Welcome Bird Gang. On Today Show, 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Danny Surrek joins me. The Monday night football cameras will 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: be at State Farm Stadium in week seven when the 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals host the Los Angeles Chargers. On the Call Monday 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: part of the ESPN broadcast, analyst Lewis Riddick, the former 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: player turn team executive, has been with ESPN for more 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: than a decade. We get his thoughts on the Cardinals, 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: the matchup against the Chargers and the NFC West. But first, 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: after a day off, it's back to work. Who was 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: and who wasn't on the practice field Thursday, It's Cardinals 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Cover two Episode eight oh eight and it starts now. 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Buda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: He said, the ten half of five days it again 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 1: some more Hurry Magic Wow. 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: Here's Craigcrioler. 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, a little bit different of a schedule this week. 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: Typically Danny joins me on a Wednesday, it is a 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Thursday because on Wednesday players had the day off, So 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: the first practice of the week Thursday leading into Monday 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Night football. 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: That confused me, and. 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 1: Basically everything was pushed back a day. So Thursday becomes Wednesday, 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: Friday becomes third. Bottom line is Cardinals play on Monday 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: Night Football and I'm here, yes, you are so, and 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: we are all better for it. What did we see 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: on that practice field on Thursday? Because I'll say this, 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: considering the number of times that we heard that a 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: player was going into the blue medical tents, coming out 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: of the blue medical tents, going back into the blue 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: medical tents on Sunday in Green Bay, the list was long. 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: Yet I'll say this, every single player that I had 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: a question about coming into this week was on the 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: practice field on Thursday. 40 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: The big name people want to hear about is wide 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: receiver Marvin Harrison Junior. He remains in concussion protocol, so 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: he was out on the field. He was very hard 43 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: to miss in his highlighter yellow outfit. Fellow receivers A 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: Jones actually joked that Harrison looked like a Pittsburgh Steeler, 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: so typically I feel like you see a penny or bib. 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: And he was in a full top bottom get up 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: and bright yellow so nobody could miss him. Harrison was 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: out there, which is a good sign. 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Though he really went full throttle as far as a 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: don't touch me, don't come near hear me. 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, so that's a great sign to see. And then 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: you're looking at some of the other big name players 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: that got banged up. Linebacker Kaisier White with a knee 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: was at practice, Cornerback Sean Murphy bunting with the neck 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: at practice, guard Evan Brown with an ankle at practice. 56 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: The only name from that list that was hurt in 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: Green Bay that we're not going to see his defensive 58 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: lineman Belond Nichols. He was placed on IR with a stinger, 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: and then Gannon confirmed with the media Thursday out for 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: the year. 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: However, he didn't make an appearance. 62 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: That's fair in history clothes. He was there at practice. 63 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: And then another name that was nice to see was 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: right tackle Jonah Williams. He went on IR after getting 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: hurt in Week one in Buffalo with a knee injury. 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: He remains on IR, but we saw him working out 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: on the side with the trainers for the first time, 68 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: and Gannon actually sounded optimistic that there is a chance, 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: not confirming anything or guaranteeing anything, there is a chance 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: so that Williams will be able to make his return 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: at some point this season. 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: JG said Williams was quote doing extremely well, making good strides. 73 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: There was a follow up about, hey, would there be 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: a chance at hadim returning and the initial response from 75 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: the coach was, I don't deal in hypotheticals yet, then 76 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: he added there's a good chance, and then he stopped 77 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: himself and I just said, I don't deal in hypotheticals, 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: and he just gave you a hypothetical. However, it is 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: good to see a player on IR on the field 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: off to the side because that's the next step. Well, 81 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: the next step is to practice once you are seen 82 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: on the sideline working with the training staff. 83 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: The other player who remains on IR is defensive lineman 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: Darius Robinson. We did not see him out at practice Thursday. 85 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: The injury report has not come out. I would expect 86 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: that he's gone for personal reasons. Really sad. He tweeted 87 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: earlier this week the passing of his mom, So thoughts 88 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: and prayers for him and his family and their loved ones, 89 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: and absolutely that makes sense for if that that would 90 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: be why Robinson wasn't out there. If it's listed as personal, 91 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: that's what you would expect. 92 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, family becomes or takes priority over football and that aspect. 93 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: So you just wait to see when he will be available, 94 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: and you hope it's sooner rather than later, because again, 95 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: when we talk about players that this team can afford 96 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: to lose yet still lose, but to get someone that 97 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: you haven't really had at all this season and as 98 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 1: impressive as he was, that would be a nice shot 99 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: in the arm. Whether it's this week or next week. 100 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: Your down bodies on that D line Justin Jones and 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: Balal Nichols done for the year and the way that 102 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: they like to rotate. On top of the skill set 103 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: that Robinson has and being able to find his way 104 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: to the backfield and disrupt quarterbacks and help clog the 105 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: run or all things that you could absolutely use help with. 106 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: You just have to make sure you're not rushing him. 107 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: Given last week when he started practicing for the first time, 108 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: was experiencing discomfort pretty early in that calf. You gotta 109 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: be careful so you're not doing any long term damage, 110 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: which is what this staff is doing, and that's what 111 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: Gannon has said. They want to make sure is going 112 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: to happen and that they're being safe. 113 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: You want Darius to be available for consecutive weeks consecutive years, 114 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: as opposed to, hey, we need you right now, we're 115 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: struggling against the run. You'd be a great help this 116 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: week against the charge. That's sometimes that's what we get 117 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: caught up on as far as hey, we need you 118 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: out there. But at the same time, there is a 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: much bigger picture when it comes to Darius and those 120 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: rookies and I include all of them as far as hey, 121 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: we drafted you for a reason. We expect long term 122 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: things from you over a period of time, big things 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: from you. So let's play it safe and make sure 124 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent because when you come back. 125 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: You stay absolutely The only thing you start to think 126 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: about is if he doesn't play this week, the time 127 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: is taken down. You only have twenty one days from 128 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: opening the window, which they did eight days ago, So 129 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: that's something to keep in mind. Again though, in the 130 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: same sense of not wanting to rush him physically when 131 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: you're going through what he is now going through on 132 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: a personal level, you also don't want to rush somebody 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: back from that. 134 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: This week, the Cardinals get that extra day. It is 135 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. Six pm is the kickoff. Two thirty 136 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: p pregame coverage begins, and again TV coverage on ESPN 137 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: plus locally on Fox ten. Of course, just tune into 138 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: the radio and you can hear myself and Danny Shrek 139 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: along with Darren Urban on the NFL Kickoff show. But 140 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: early Bird begins at two thirty in the afternoon. 141 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: And here's the good news. The Cardinals are wearing their 142 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: black alternate jerseys. But now I have binocular so now 143 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: I can see the outline of the numbers from the 144 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: press box. 145 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Craig, I like you twisted is to make it all 146 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: about you. I appreciate that. 147 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: By the way, we knew you were going to bring 148 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: that up. 149 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Anyway, we are encouraging everyone to wear black. 150 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say to bring binoculars. Yes, 151 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: that makes a lot more. 152 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Sense if you need to wear or bring binoculars. By 153 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: the way, I have binoculars. I bring them every single 154 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: week because now so now we can share and make 155 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: sure that we see everything out on that football field. 156 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: But it is the cardinals first Monday Night appearance since 157 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: two thousand and two is Week fourteen against the New 158 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: England Patriots. I won't go any further than that. If 159 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: you know what happened that day, then you know what 160 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: happened that day. But that is the last time the 161 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals appeared on Monday Night football, And you do get 162 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: a sense that this is a big deal to be 163 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: on primetime, to be on Monday Night football, which is 164 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: the staple. Maybe Sunday Night means a little bit more nowadays, 165 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: but it was always Monday Night football was the game 166 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: that was by itself. Now there are a lot of 167 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: games by themselves, but that night's Monday Night was a 168 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: good way for everyone to kind of see what you're about. 169 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: There's a handful of players on this roster that have 170 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: never played on Monday Night, and there is a different vibe. 171 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: Now. 172 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: Every game is just as important, matters just as much. 173 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely having that vibe though of Monday Night. You can 174 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: feel it in the air. It feels different. 175 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun, hopefully, the Cardinals 176 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: are able to capitalize on that and get in the 177 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: win column. 178 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: I also think this canna be one of the best 179 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: uniform combos between matchups. The Chargers, in my opinion, have 180 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: got some really nice home and road unis, and I 181 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: think with the Cardinals black alternates, I think it's gonna 182 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: look pretty cool. 183 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: Will pop I do any verdoculars it will pop? 184 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: Oh, I see what you're saying. 185 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: Sure, and he's got this visual whatever she's trying to 186 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: project and look ahead to Monday. 187 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Wow. 188 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: Okay, by the way, did you clip that too well, 189 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Cody Jeez? That will make his way to an NFL 190 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: kickoffs show near you sometime soon. So the ESPN Plus 191 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: broadcasts it's got Chris Fowler, Lewis, Ridick, dan Orlowski, and 192 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: Laura Religs. And as I mentioned off the top here 193 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Covered two presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 194 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, we had the opportunity to speak with 195 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: Lewis earlier in the day get his thoughts big picture 196 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: and also specifically as far as what he has seen 197 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: from the Cardinals offense, defense, and then kind of wrap 198 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: up with the NFC West here now is our conversation 199 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: with ESPN analyst Lewis Ridick before we get into specifics. 200 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: We live this every day, Lewis, So it's always nice 201 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: to get a different perspective, your view, your outside view 202 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals after six weeks of game action. 203 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's it's a situation where now you're 204 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: looking at some injuries that could that were especially when 205 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: you're talking about the defense side of the ball, that 206 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: really have affected and will continue to affect their ability 207 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: to play a high level, consistent winning football. Because when 208 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: you lose frontline players like they have lost, particularly on 209 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 4: the D line, when you lose guys like Bill Nichols 210 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: now and you put him on top of having already 211 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 4: lost guys like Bjji, and you know, you you have 212 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: like Justin Jones who's only played three games, and hopefully 213 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 4: Darius Robinson gets healthy. You know, saw Murphy Bunning is 214 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: dealing with an injury, Kuyzier is dealing with an injury. 215 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to like going forward, it's hard 216 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: to say how things will look on that side of 217 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 4: the ball, where in particularly like they have struggled in 218 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: terms of their ability to make sure that you take 219 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: care of the passing game at a high level, Rush 220 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: the passer at a high level, make sure you're consistent 221 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 4: stopping the run game. I mean, it's hard to project 222 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: how things would look for them in a positive way 223 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 4: going forward outside of like some you know, miraculous improvements 224 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 4: with the people that they have there now. And that's 225 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: not to be disrespectable to them now, to the players 226 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: that they have, but that's just being honest. Like, the 227 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: injuries have really thrown into, you know, into a tailspin 228 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 4: some of the things that you can see clearly they 229 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: were trying to get done before the season started, you know, 230 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: on the offensive side obviously, you know, there are certain 231 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 4: things that they can hang their hadd on. They're very, 232 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: very strong at the tight end position, and I don't 233 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: see any reason why that group of four did not 234 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: continue to be a strong point for the football team. 235 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 4: You know, Trey is a fantastic player. The way Elijah 236 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: and really really compete in particular in the run game, 237 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: it's it's it's something that you can hang your hat on. 238 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: You can hang your hat on James Connor, you can 239 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: hang your hat on on Bi Mercado being a quality 240 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: third down back. You know, Trey Benson is going to 241 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 4: be as sudden in this league, as big and strong, 242 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 4: as fast as he is, And I think you can 243 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: hang your hat on the fact that Kyler is going 244 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: to do whatever he can to make plays both in 245 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: the run games you're all against San Francisco in the build, 246 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: and when he's hot and things are clicking past game wise, 247 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: you know he can throw it as good as anyone does. 248 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: He have to consistently find a way to get on 249 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 4: the same page with Marvin and get him up to 250 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: speed tool to a degree that you want that you 251 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 4: expect that of someone who is, you know, a top 252 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: five pick in the NFL. Yeah, you need to be 253 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: better with that. I have a lot of respect for 254 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: Michae Wilson, so what am I getting that? Overall, in 255 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: its totality, there's a lot of question marks going forward, 256 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: you know, And like I started with, they're personnel driven 257 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: because of the back of availability and injuries on the 258 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 4: defensive side and none on the offensive side. You have 259 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: some nice pieces. You have an offensive line that will 260 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: come off the ball and try to establish the line 261 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: of scrimmage and running and backs that are slashers and 262 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: really compliment one another. You have tight ends that can 263 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 4: make plays in a quarterback he's as dynamic as anyone, 264 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: and a guy in Marvin Harrison who's as talented as 265 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: any receiver in the league. But it has to all 266 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: be consistent. It has to all click on a consistent basis, 267 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: and I just don't I don't know how, or I 268 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 4: can't really forecast when that will happen on that side 269 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 4: of the ball, on offensive side and defensively, whether or 270 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 4: not they can, you know, make significant improvements given the 271 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 4: people that they've lost. 272 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: That inconsistency was something we heard the players and coaching 273 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: staff talk about as well after this loss to Green Bay, 274 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: especially after the performances we saw against the Rams and 275 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers offensively specifically, what does a team 276 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: need to prioritize how do you create consistency on a 277 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: week to week basis? 278 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's that's a question that general managers and 279 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 4: coaches have been trying to answer for decades, is how 280 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 4: can you get players to one create on the field chemistry, continuity, 281 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: togetherness to where it isn't like the first pat of 282 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: the game last last week, when Tyler's expecting Marvin Harrison 283 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 4: to run to go Marvin runs to stop routing in 284 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: the ball sales over his head. It's just like, okay, well, 285 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: how do you eliminate those kinds of things to where 286 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: they're seeing the game the same way That just comes 287 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 4: through repetition, more time on the field, more time off 288 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 4: the field together in terms of continuing to work that 289 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: kind of thing. Self inflicted wounds like ball starts, off 290 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: side holding, those are all things that are really on 291 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 4: the players to make sure that from an off as 292 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: a perspective, that you take care of those things so 293 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: you're not behind the change, you're not shooting yourself in 294 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: the foot, you're not having third and lungs to where 295 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: it's just impossible. Against the teams that you're going up 296 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: against week after week, you can do it. Sometimes right 297 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: over the long haul, it's just not gonna it's not 298 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: gonna be something that you even be able to sustain. 299 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: So what am I getting that? Look? I think, given 300 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: who they still have available on the office the side, 301 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: you know, notwithstanding look, losing a guy like Will Hernandez, 302 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: it's bank. It just is Calvin and Paris are still 303 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 4: quality players. Yelleda is one of those guys who when 304 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,119 Speaker 4: you watch him play he's a hell of a competitor. 305 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: They're still and James and any Mari and Trey Ben. 306 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 4: I mean, these guys are quality players. They all have 307 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: to they all have to take it upon themselves to say, hey, 308 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,239 Speaker 4: look we're gonna cut out the things that are self inflicted. 309 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: We're gonna put in the time to get more consistency 310 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: and more continuity amongst ourselves on the field so there 311 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: aren't miscommunications. And if we do that as just like 312 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: you saw it in the second hand, like he saw 313 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 4: it late in the first late in the first half, 314 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: beginning of the third quarter, they can move the football. 315 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 4: They can move the football against anyone I'm just talking 316 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: about last week in particular. They can move the ball. 317 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: It's always this self inflicted type of thing where whether 318 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 4: it be penalties, breakdown and pass protection, someone not running 319 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: the right route. I mean, there's all those kinds of 320 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: hidden things that can just stall you out. And hopefully 321 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: as the season continues to move on, there's just a 322 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: commitment amongst the guys to kind of get that kind 323 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 4: of thing fixed. I mean, I wish, I wish I 324 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: could say, look, it's just this one thing or these 325 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: couple of things and things would really start to look better. 326 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: I bet John Gannon had that, you know, he I'm 327 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 4: sure if he had that answer, it would be fixed 328 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: already too. I mean, it's just that there's just so 329 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: many moving parts that go into this that need to inconsistency. 330 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: Is it is true though that based on my time 331 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 4: in the league and when I played, and when I 332 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 4: was in front offices and even now I'm watching all 333 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: this well, the one thing and continuing to be involved 334 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: with the game at such a deep level, the one 335 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 4: thing I know for certain is this players have to 336 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 4: really take it upon themselves to take ownership of the 337 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: kinds of things that can lead to success and failure. 338 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 4: Outside of scheme, play calling, clock management that sometimes comes 339 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 4: into it a lot of times, though, what really leads 340 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 4: to consistency players taking ownership and locking in at those 341 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 4: most important moments. And somehow Arizona's going to need to 342 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 4: find a way to do that so they can take 343 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 4: advantage of all the talent that they do have that 344 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 4: I believe that they do have on the offensive side 345 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: of the ball, in particular at the skill positions. 346 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: As a fellow Pitt Panther, by the way, congrats on 347 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: the six and zero start. What do you like about 348 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 1: James Connor. 349 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 4: The person he is, the competitor he is, and then 350 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 4: obviously that you know, the man of the football player 351 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: that he is. He's the total package. But they're the 352 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 4: nicest individuals you'll ever meet. Great teammate, he inspires other people. 353 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 4: He inspires his team, and by other people, I mean 354 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 4: world worldwide. He inspires people when you hear about his story, 355 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: but he went through while he overcame it. He inspires 356 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 4: you with the way that he plays the game, never quits. 357 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 4: He's always going to be there. He's going to give 358 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: you everything he's got. I mean, he's just he's just 359 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: the kind of guy that every time I see him, 360 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: you know, there's always a big hug Shane. There's just 361 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of respect as a competitor, 362 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: as a professional, and every single team in the NFL 363 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 4: would benefit from having James Connor, every single team and 364 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: because he's a pillar player, he's a a heartbeat of 365 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: a team and for a team. He's been that way 366 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: at every level of his career. 367 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: Last question, Lewis, and really appreciate the time here ahead 368 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: of Monday Night Football. The NFC West overall Cardinals two 369 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: and zero within the division, but it's the only division 370 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: without a team with a winning record. How do you 371 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: see the NFC West moving forward and whether the Cardinals 372 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: can be still a player? 373 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, Look I think he saw two weeks ago. 374 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: There's no question they can be a player with who 375 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 4: many would consider it to be, you know, when they're 376 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: hitting on all cylinders. The best team in the NFC 377 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 4: West and maybe the best team in the NFC in 378 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: San Francisco. But the NFL set up for that, it's 379 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: set up for shockers, it's set up for parody, and 380 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: the Cardinals are noo. It's going to be whether or not. Okay, one, 381 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 4: they can't sustain too many more injuries on the deff 382 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 4: side of the football, You just can't. You have to 383 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 4: be able to rush the pass or stop to run, 384 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 4: eliminate explosive plays in the back end, and all three 385 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 4: of those things. We're their head at one point or another. 386 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 4: Last week against one of the better team's, younger, faster, 387 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 4: stronger teams in the NFC and Green Bay, so that's 388 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 4: not a good thing. That's not a good sign. Hopefully 389 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 4: they will have one of those performances Monday night against 390 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: the Charger team that is starting to find its footing 391 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 4: a little bit in terms of who they want to 392 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 4: be and that they can get back on track and 393 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 4: they can show you more of what they had to 394 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: you know, put on take two weeks ago instead of 395 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: what they put on tape last week. I'm just worried 396 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: about I'm just worried about the availability quoting when it 397 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: comes to an availability factor when it comes to the 398 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 4: defensive side. But again, these are professionals and if they 399 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 4: can just lock in, get on the same page on 400 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: the perimeter, produce more explosives, not shoot themselves in the foot, 401 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: maybe they can overcome some of the things that they're 402 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: going to struggle with defensively to where they're in it 403 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 4: to have a shot no matter you know who they're 404 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 4: playing against, although it's going to be it's going to 405 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: be a tough climb uphill. 406 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: ESPN Nlist Lewis Riddick catch the Call on Monday Night 407 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: Football with Chris Fowler, Dan Orlovski and Lor Rutledge. Lewis 408 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: can't thank you enough and looking forward to Monday. 409 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: Night you bet thanks a lot. 410 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: Really appreciate Lewis Riddick joining us here on Cardinals Cover 411 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: two presented by Hyundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 412 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: And that last parts about where the Cardinals are right now, 413 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: a third of the way into the season two and four. Yeah, 414 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: the record is not great yet. As Lewis told us, 415 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: the NFL is set up for parody. And even though 416 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: you are two games under five hundred, your only game 417 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: behind the rest of the NFC West when it comes 418 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: to the forty nine Ers and the Seahawks. 419 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna need two games to be your two wins 420 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: so far. Absolutely, they need to be the Rams and 421 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers. So the Cardinals have done themselves 422 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: a nice favor in doing that. A'llbe it unintentionally. Arizona's 423 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: played tough teams, and I know that when quarterback Kyler 424 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 3: Murray was asked about that on by the media, he 425 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: had said, you know, we don't really care about that. 426 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 3: It's about how we play. Absolutely. My point though, is 427 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: anything can happen in a week, and the Cardinals have 428 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: shown they showed it last year with a lot of 429 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: these core players, how they can beat teams as true underdogs, 430 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: and so anything can happen in a week. We've seen 431 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: what this Cardinals team looks like when it gets hot 432 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: and rolling, they just have to get out of their 433 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: own way in order to do that consistently through four 434 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 3: quarters and consistently on a week to week basis. 435 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, the thirteen penalties, three turnovers, you're beating yourself. But 436 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: when the Cardinals were in this position earlier this season, 437 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: coming off that loss to Washington on the road in 438 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco and you beat a forty nine ers team. 439 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: So this team has shown already this season and we've 440 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: seen it under Jonathan Gannon. They are going to be 441 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: competitive outside of Washington and what happened in Green Bay. 442 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: But more times than not, it's a full sixty minutes 443 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: and a response after a performance after a loss more 444 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: times than not. So I would expect, especially with prime 445 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: time in the national stage, that you are going to 446 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: see a much better executing team on the field at 447 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium. 448 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 3: I would agree with that completely. Based on what we've 449 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: seen on how this team can bounce back, I would 450 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 3: expect the same result. 451 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: And then, of course at this point, you can't suffer 452 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: any more injuries that you already have had on that defense. 453 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: And that's the one thing that Lewis brought up, and 454 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: it's very fair. You can only go so far down 455 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: that depth chart to where all right, yeah you have depth, 456 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: but certain position groups, especially that defensive line, and this 457 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: is now the second straight year that that d line 458 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: has been hit, and it's unfortunate. It's bad luck, but 459 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: no one really cares. You have to keep moving on 460 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: and finding players and hopefully you find something. And I'll 461 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: go back to Dante Stills a year ago. I don't 462 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: think he was going to see the field at all, 463 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden injuries happen and you're 464 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: forced to play a sixth round pick and now you've 465 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: found somebody that is a rotation piece for you, hopefully 466 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: long term. 467 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: It is bad luck. This front office put a lot 468 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: of emphasis on the defensive line in the off season. 469 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: Justin Jones and Balon Nichols, two free agents who a 470 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 3: large part as to why they were signed was because 471 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: of their durability throughout their careers. You draft Darius Robinson, 472 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: you've just been banged up, and it really is unfortunate. 473 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 3: And the emphasis on the defensive line and really in 474 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: the secondary was going to help the pass rush, and 475 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: because that was a room that really wasn't addressed as 476 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: head on as other spots on offense and on this defense. 477 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: So now to be without some of those key defensive 478 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: linemen waiting for Robinson to make his return. Although Nichols 479 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 3: and Jones are done for the year, it does have 480 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: a trickle down effect. Now players like Stills, Roy Lopez 481 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: bringing back Nakon Jones have done some nice things and 482 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: shown some flashes. They can't carry everything on their own. 483 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 3: You need to continue to get elite play from them 484 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: from what they can give you in terms of clogging 485 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: those gaps stopping the run, and you need more from 486 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: your pass rushers, even if that's bringing in MacWilson Senior 487 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: out wide a little more to try and disrupt the 488 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 3: quarterback and make life difficult. The problem when you're going 489 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: against an offense like the Chargers, yes, they run the ball, 490 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 3: that's going to be their priority under head coach Jim 491 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: Harbaugh is if you're gonna blitz and you're gonna put 492 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: all your attention to that, well, quarterback Justin Herbert can 493 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: sling it. He's not doing it as often with this 494 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 3: run first mentality that La has now. He's still dangerous 495 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: though in those situations he. 496 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Talking about, Herbert gets that ball out quickly, very very fast. 497 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: No hesitation. Sixty percent of Herbert's passes last week came 498 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: in under two and a half seconds. 499 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: So now, all of a sudden, if your Nick Rowlis, 500 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: what do you do? We need to affect the quarterback. 501 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: We've heard that repeatedly. Have to do a better job 502 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: of making sure that opposing quarterback is uncomfortable. Hasn't happened 503 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: a lot this season. So how do you do that? 504 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: And if you do get home? Now all of a sudden, 505 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: one you have to finish the play, but can you 506 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: get home? And if you start to get home, then 507 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: you know Herbert's just going to get rid of it. 508 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden. It's up to the second 509 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: and third levels to make sure that those plays are 510 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: kept in front of them and are explosive plays. Because 511 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are smart, they'll see if you've got it, if 512 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: you can bring the heat, then all of a sudden 513 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: they adjust. But more times than not, Herbert's going to 514 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: get that ball out before you even have a chance 515 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: to get into the backfield. 516 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: You're going to be tight coverage. You're going to have 517 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: to play fast and play smart. This Cardinals team is 518 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 3: just gonna have to be a lot more disciplined than 519 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: they were last week. That's what it comes down to 520 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: for a lot of those penalties, a large portion of 521 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: those which were pre snap. 522 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: It was I believe five or six of the thirteen 523 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: were pre snap penalties. Whether you're jumping off, the characteristic 524 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: delay a game, false start, Yeah, that's neutral zone and fraction. 525 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 3: We haven't heard how many years, at least not since 526 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 3: Gan it's been here. I don't think we've had one 527 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 3: of those penalties been called. 528 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: I just wonder if the players were trying to do 529 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: too much because of something that had done but had 530 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: happened the previous player. 531 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: Or maybe the weather, the environment. It could be a 532 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: whole list of things. 533 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: A lot of focus on the defense, and you were 534 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: able to catch up with one of those defensive players. 535 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: This week's Sideline Exchange guest is Roy Lopez, local player, 536 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: local kid, play as far as high school and now 537 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: in his hometown again. 538 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: One. 539 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: He's a good player, great player, but just a great 540 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: human being. 541 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: It was a really fun conversation. He grew up like 542 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: five minutes from the facility and Tempe and has a 543 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: lot of family out here. A lot of family that 544 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: not only goes to every home game, travels every week 545 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: and football is a true family affair. His dad is 546 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: the head football coach at Desert Ridge High School. His 547 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 3: uncle is still his defensive line coach. Was really cool 548 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 3: to get a chance to kind of peel back the 549 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: curtain and talk to Lopez more as a person and 550 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 3: not just a football player. And I actually really enjoyed 551 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: our conversation this week. 552 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: That is coming up soon on the Arizona Cardinals official 553 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: YouTube page and of course Azycardinals dot com and then 554 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: coming up depending on bird Gang when you happen to 555 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: hear this. But on Thursday, October seventeenth, the Big Red 556 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: Rage guest is Trey McBride six pm at Trophy and Shannon. 557 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: If you can't get there, it's on ESPN six twenty am. 558 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: But McBride one of the few players, maybe one of 559 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: the kind on one hand less than one hand as 560 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: far as players that actually perform well in Green Bay 561 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: season eyes in catches and receiving yards and someone now 562 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: depending on the availability of Marvin Harrison Junior, takes on 563 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: even more responsibility this week against the Chargers. 564 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: McBride is one of the most dependable and reliable weapons. 565 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: His ability to snag the ball, bring it in and 566 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: refuse to go down on initial contact has made him 567 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 3: a security blanket and the best way possible for Murray 568 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: and the rest of this offense. I would like to 569 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: see him get the ball a little earlier. He's doing 570 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: a nice job when you're looking at the numbers. Despite 571 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: missing a game due to that concussion, he's still the 572 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: most targeted receiver. He's yet to find the end zone. 573 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: And while the Cardinals are still perfect in terms of 574 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: gold Goat scenarios, you need to get the ball to 575 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: your players who are going to be reliable in those 576 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: big time moments, and Trey McBride is one of those. 577 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: The weather is also beautiful now, so there's no excuse 578 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: to not go out to trophy for big red. 579 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: Rage eighty degrees I showed you as we were out 580 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: on the practice. 581 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: Then it's for Paul Wolf what well, Yeah, thank goodness, 582 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: they're gonna get like a little. 583 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: Relief from the okay, goodness for Paul what like. 584 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm happy for them. Okay, Sorry, I guess I worded 585 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: that poorly. 586 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: You know, you just got as I could hear the 587 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: laughter on the other side of the glass. 588 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: You just what. 589 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: I like extra I mean Cardinals Underground podcast on Tuesday, 590 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: Omo and Cody through the other side of that glass. 591 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: We're laughing like the whole time? Am I extra funny? 592 00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: This week? 593 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: By the way, I got a not a shout out. 594 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: I got shouted at on Cardinals Underground this week. Now 595 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm blanking on what it was. But but Paul put 596 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: me down for what some reason, I can't remember what 597 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: it was. Always like filling his shoes or whatever, something 598 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: like that, or like. 599 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: You found a stat before him. I think that's what 600 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: he normally gets upset about, is you find all the 601 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: good meaty stats. 602 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 1: You do realize as we pull the curtain back here, 603 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: of that ninety percent of the information that Paul gets 604 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: or reads I provide. 605 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: I I know that I'm not saying that's not the truth. Crag. 606 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: Do my best to help out Paul Calvic when I can, 607 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: because Paul needs help. 608 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna comment on that. 609 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: You can clip that one too, Coddy. All right, So 610 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: a lot to look forward to this week and extra 611 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: day before Monday Night football, and I hope everyone enjoyed 612 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: that interview with Lewis Riddick really appreciate him joining us 613 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover tune and of course Sideline Exchange 614 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: with Roy Lopez, Big Red Rage this week, Trey McBride 615 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: at Trophy, and Chandler coming up at six pm on Thursday. 616 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: Anything else we got we got to promote. 617 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to know, because I'm thinking about this 618 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: now and I'm real nosy. I like to know for 619 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: fans that are going to the game Monday night, if 620 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: you're taking off work so you can get there early 621 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: in tailgate, okay six, because I really respected, I understand 622 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: if you can't half day Monday. 623 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: Maybe do we give everyone permissions? Tell your boss. 624 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a discount code. Hey, tell your boss. 625 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two told you to take off work Monday. 626 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: Danny Surrek says, it's okay, Collin sick, You'll be all right. 627 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll do the same for Darren. 628 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Now because it's a six pm kickoff, could be a 629 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: late night Monday. 630 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: They have permission to take off Tuesday? 631 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: Or do you have permission to just show up or 632 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: work a little bit later. 633 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: I'm very curious, So fans that are going to the 634 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: Monday night game, please let me know I don't ever 635 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: get to experience this as a fan. I'm I'm going 636 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: there for my job. 637 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: So i'd love to know your first primetime game with 638 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. No, that's not true. First time for 639 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon, that's right. 640 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: No, because I was here in twenty one. They had 641 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: some primetime games. Uh well, Thursday night against the Packers, 642 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: Thursday night against the Saints when Marco Wilson flipped into 643 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: the end zone, the Monday night game against the Patriots. 644 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want to talk about that game. Not 645 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: a good game, is it me? 646 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 3: No, because the Cardinals won that Thursday night game against 647 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: the Saints. It's not me, Okay, it's. 648 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Never you, Danny, Never think that for a moment. Thanks, 649 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: You're welcome, all right, Before we get into any more 650 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: trouble here or any more eclipse for Danny Sirek on 651 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: a NFL kickoff show, we will put a lid on 652 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals. Cover two presented Behundai, proud partner 653 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks to our 654 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Mamahuro, our associate producer Coddy Fincher. For 655 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: Danny Serek, I'm Craig Riolou, we'll talk to you next 656 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: time here on Cardinals Cover two.