WEBVTT - Richard Perez Disobeys Bridger

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<v Speaker 1>But I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're a guest to my home.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guests,

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<v Speaker 1>your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you dare.

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<v Speaker 2>To surbey me?

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineker, We're

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<v Speaker 3>in the backyard. I'm completely rattled. I woke up to

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<v Speaker 3>countless emails. Almost every one of them was an email

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<v Speaker 3>I snoozed last week, and so I'm just on the edge,

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely freaking out. Let's get into the podcast. I love

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<v Speaker 3>today's guest. It's Richard Perez. Richard, Welcome to. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>no gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>You kind have already walked me through your morning, which

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<v Speaker 3>sounded so relaxed, and I was just.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the opposite of you're so tense. You are tense.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you snooze emails? Yeah? Yeah, depens depends, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I snooze almost every email just to put it off

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<v Speaker 3>for a minute. But last week I think I snoozed

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<v Speaker 3>every email every day, and I woke up to probably

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<v Speaker 3>twenty extra emails. No, they've all been snoozed until this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're all like urgent. They're not urgent, but they

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<v Speaker 3>all need to be responded to, right it they do.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's I feel like my week is just wrecked.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but you've you woke up at six

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<v Speaker 3>thirty this morning? I did, You're in Los Angeles. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in Los Angeles from New York. How's it feeling so far?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I flew into the Pacific Northwest Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>What's today? Today's Monday?

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<v Speaker 4>I flew in Wednesday night, Okay, And so I think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like acclimated or is that even the right word.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, Like when you put a fish in from the

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<v Speaker 3>pet store and you have to put it in the

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<v Speaker 3>bag into the.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened to me. I wonder if anyone knows

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. No, no, no, yeah, yeah, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>you got leave the.

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<v Speaker 3>Bag in the fish tank right until it like gets

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<v Speaker 3>used to the temperature of the water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I feel like I remember seeing something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a.

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<v Speaker 3>Video you watched as a kid. So you've acclimated to

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening the time. Did you drive from Portland or

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<v Speaker 3>Seattle to here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I flew You're flying all over the place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>do you enjoy flying?

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is like I'm new to flying. You are

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<v Speaker 4>the first time I ever got on a plane twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, yeah, wow? And what was that experience?

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<v Speaker 4>Like it was honestly like really emotional and like amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it scary a little bit but like not really

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<v Speaker 4>like I I And it was to fly here to

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<v Speaker 4>LA It's a long true, so it's like, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>like a five and a half hour flight and that's

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<v Speaker 4>my first time ever. Wow, Because I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 4>I grew up in Jersey and like moved to New

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<v Speaker 4>York really young, and I'd like been there for like

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<v Speaker 4>thirteen years now, and so I just like stayed put

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<v Speaker 4>in one place and no reason to go elsewhere, I guess, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And like we just like never got on planes growing

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<v Speaker 4>up or anything. I was just like everyone else does that,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I won't know or something. I just kept like

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<v Speaker 4>putting it off for you, it's not for me, like

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<v Speaker 4>everyone else can whatever. And so then finally like I

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<v Speaker 4>got on the plane and I was a little bit scared,

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<v Speaker 4>but then once the it like took off, like I

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<v Speaker 4>was so emotional and I was like crying. I had

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<v Speaker 4>a window seat. This really hot eye was hit next

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<v Speaker 4>to me. I didn't want him to see.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, couldn't my shoulders convulsay, just like looking at

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<v Speaker 3>the window.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel his hands undernath Wow, that's wild. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've flown like a little you know, more time

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<v Speaker 4>since then, and then definitely this past month I've gone

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<v Speaker 4>on like four plane rides or something, which now I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>i feel like I'm getting experience and I'm starting to

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<v Speaker 4>understand a little bit like different airports have different vibes,

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<v Speaker 4>and like Portland was like a three second security check.

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<v Speaker 2>You yeah, yeah, honey, I could get through. You're holding

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<v Speaker 2>a rifle. Yeah, like I had a gun. I could

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<v Speaker 2>buy my gun too.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just like, yes, we did just get just go

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<v Speaker 4>go ahead and get here. I have a great time

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<v Speaker 4>that first flight.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it boring at all or was it like I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like, yeah, no, oh, did did get more quickly?

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<v Speaker 4>It was it was more the build up of like

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<v Speaker 4>take off, and then I started crying, and I'm like thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I am so grandiose like in my mind,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, oh my gosh, like.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the newness of things.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a whole world of things to discover about

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<v Speaker 3>myself and life and there's so much things.

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<v Speaker 4>To try in this life. And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 4>just turned thirty. I'm like my thirties, Like, oh, my

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<v Speaker 4>goodness is gonna be amazing. And then I could I

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<v Speaker 4>also popped a z equill or something like that. Oh sure,

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<v Speaker 4>I board it, And so then it really it hit me.

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<v Speaker 4>I slept for like forty minutes, and then I woke

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<v Speaker 4>up and I was like, are we almost there? We

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<v Speaker 4>had like four hours left. Horrible feeling, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, wait, this is really boring.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I was like, no, like what am I

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do? How do I get through this? And I

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<v Speaker 2>just had to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that happens to me on almost every flight. We're

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<v Speaker 3>all fall asleep for probably fifteen minutes and think that

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<v Speaker 3>I've been asleep from the entire time, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>have to occupy myself.

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<v Speaker 2>For all of that. Yeah, what do you I like?

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<v Speaker 2>I do?

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<v Speaker 3>I read, I listened to pod and I play video

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<v Speaker 3>games kind of in cycles until it's all over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like I'm finding I do something similar thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, it's just like your interest kind of goes in

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<v Speaker 4>and out I'm like, oh, I'll go on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 4>then I'm like I don't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm like.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll watch something and then I'm just like I'm over it.

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<v Speaker 4>I can concentrate after like twenty minutes, and then I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll uh, maybe I'll just like try to answer an

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<v Speaker 4>email or like write something down, like an idea of something.

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<v Speaker 3>And see, I won't get on the internet on a flight.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, it costs eight dollars, so I said

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<v Speaker 3>no to that. And I also love that I can't

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<v Speaker 3>that I can't like answer an email or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it feels incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I feel like we're getting close to there

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<v Speaker 3>being free Wi Fi on planes. Yeah, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>will again just be another thing that I won't do

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<v Speaker 3>anything on except for.

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<v Speaker 2>A look at my phone. Right, But that's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I suppose some seats or what if you get like

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<v Speaker 4>more space or like whatever they like provide Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that it ever comes. I mean maybe

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<v Speaker 2>in first class.

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<v Speaker 3>I would I would hope that if you're paying that

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<v Speaker 3>much money they would give you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you, like, do you fly first class

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<v Speaker 2>like all the time? I God, I wish not in

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<v Speaker 2>a million. I know nothing. I know nothing. I'm new

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<v Speaker 2>to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, first class, as far as I know, is just

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<v Speaker 3>truly unattainable.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's so expensive, it's super super expensive. Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>When I flew to Chicago last weekend, I upgraded my

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<v Speaker 4>seat at the last minute because I was like, I

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<v Speaker 4>just want to like get on the first boarding group

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<v Speaker 4>and not worry get my chances to like put my

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<v Speaker 4>carry on. I travel light. I just have one carry

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<v Speaker 4>on in one bag. I have never done checked bags.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, Oh, chacking a bag is a huge mistake that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like scared to experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm sure one day I'll have to.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to, really, I'll never do it again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just take less things, Yeah, I truly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like yeah, I mean, if you really need something,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wherever you go, right, That's what. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to check bags, but then when you're sending

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<v Speaker 3>it a luggage carousel at the end of a flight,

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<v Speaker 3>you just want to die.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't want to go through that. No, you

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have to go through that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like scared too, So I'm like I'm like I'll

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<v Speaker 4>do anything. I'll upgrade my you know. So, like last minute,

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<v Speaker 4>I like upgraded my seat and it was like one A.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, wow, I was like one A.

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<v Speaker 4>I like didn't look at like the map of like

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<v Speaker 4>the seats or like whatever, and I thought it would

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<v Speaker 4>be like, oh, there's first class, like the nice seats

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, like the essentially beds or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you get the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought I was going to be there.

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<v Speaker 4>So then when I get to the plane, I see

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<v Speaker 4>that that wasn't there, and I like showed it to

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<v Speaker 4>one of the like flight attendants.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, yep, you're sitting right there.

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<v Speaker 4>That's you for first you know whatever, And I was

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<v Speaker 4>just like my first class.

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<v Speaker 3>So wasn't a playing without first class just entirely, or

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<v Speaker 3>you accidentally bought a first class ticket?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you in one of the bed things?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was one of these plays, one of those

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<v Speaker 3>place has like everyone's the same, Yeah, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's how they're like, and they still label

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<v Speaker 4>it first class. Oh interesting, yeah. So but then I

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<v Speaker 4>had such imposter syndrome about it. I'm like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>first class. There's no way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm new to this. Were you treated differently a little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the same thing happened on my way from Portland

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<v Speaker 4>to LA I was also sitting in one A. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sensing like a pattern here, but I was I was

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<v Speaker 4>hitting in one A and yeah, I feel like someone.

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<v Speaker 4>This flight attendant came up to me and was called

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<v Speaker 4>me by my last name, mister Perez.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I take your coat?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I had a trench coat and I was like wow,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't deserve this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that really? That feels like you were actually in

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<v Speaker 2>first class? Yeah? And then they took my coat? Why.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they were also just like, do you want anything

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<v Speaker 2>to drink? I was like, ginger ale.

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<v Speaker 4>They brought a little glass with ice cubes and a

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<v Speaker 4>ginger Ale.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a ginger ale drinker outside of a plane? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, because I feel like ginger ale is like a

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<v Speaker 3>flight drink. Oh it is, Yeah, but you just happened

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<v Speaker 3>to just drink ginger ale all the time. Yeah, ginger

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<v Speaker 3>and Dia Cooke.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially if I'm at a bar or something, I don't drink,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'll usually order those two.

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<v Speaker 3>I do love a ginger Ale. On a plane. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I've been recently getting the fruit flavored mineral.

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<v Speaker 3>What is what do we call it? Like a Lacroix

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<v Speaker 3>X it's but it's called like aha, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>worst thing to have to order to say I want

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<v Speaker 3>an ahah.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels insane. Is it just seltzer?

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<v Speaker 3>It's just seltzer. It's like and it's the worst flavor.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like watermelon, lime or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have to like like You're like, can I

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<v Speaker 4>have an ah watermelon?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I've tried, because I don't want to say that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just say like could I just have a sparkling water?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And then they make me specify what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And aha is a hard thing to say loud on

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<v Speaker 3>a plane because there's no real hard consonant there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah ah Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It just kind of feels like you're opening your mouth

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<v Speaker 3>to them. It's they need to get a different type

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<v Speaker 3>of Seltzer on planes. Yeah, there are so many other ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Lacroi is easy to say, yeah, Waterloo, Well those are

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<v Speaker 3>the two I can think of. A friend recently stayed

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<v Speaker 3>here at my house and left some Trader Joe's sparkling water.

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<v Speaker 3>That's blueberry lemon Oka the worst liquid I've ever tasted,

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<v Speaker 3>real blueberry lemon. Yeah, that sounds like I'll drink anything,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just need to warn people.

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<v Speaker 4>I think blueberry lemon you can't fake that so much

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<v Speaker 4>like blueberry especially Righteah, you can't fake blueberry like I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I literally had over the weekend a blueberry lemon

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<v Speaker 4>cheese Danish what And it was fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>Where in Portland?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, okay, And I just like popped in and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was really really good. But you can't fake it.

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<v Speaker 2>They had to use the real ingredients. They used the

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<v Speaker 2>real thing. Let oh, so I guess it was probably

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<v Speaker 2>like lemon curd or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I think actually maybe there wasn't lemon in it. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean there was lemon in it.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds nice. Yeah, I remember it was really delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you when you're in LA do you go to

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<v Speaker 2>any bakeries? Not? Really? Yeah? What are you doing for

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<v Speaker 2>entertainment while you're here? What do you do? Do you enjoy?

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<v Speaker 2>In Los Angeles?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really big on like going for a walk, like

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<v Speaker 4>I need to, especially if I'm like I'm here to

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<v Speaker 4>like perform like do my show right, but doing it

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<v Speaker 4>two times this week, So like I feel the day

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<v Speaker 4>of I get nervous, of course, and so I just

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<v Speaker 4>like need like at least an hour to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>just like walk and like listen to music and kind

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<v Speaker 4>of just like And I know they say that La

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<v Speaker 4>is like not such a walking city, but there are

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<v Speaker 4>some pockets, like there's some.

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<v Speaker 2>Places to definitely go for a walk.

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<v Speaker 4>So I find myself like going in this like routine

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<v Speaker 4>like walk through like Beechwood Canyon too, Franklin Franklin Avenue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all the way to North Vermont. Oh, you're passing

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<v Speaker 2>the Gelson's.

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<v Speaker 3>You're passing the house Pies, my former barber. Yeah, trying

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<v Speaker 3>to think if there's anything else there. UCB, You're definitely

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<v Speaker 3>passing UCB and all the horrible restaurants around it. Guys,

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<v Speaker 3>what music are you listening to?

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I will get kind of like, I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna listen to like LA music.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I think to have a theme to kind of set

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<v Speaker 3>up the vibe of the city you're in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I have like two bands that come to mind from

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<v Speaker 4>like my first time visiting here, I felt like I

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<v Speaker 4>was heavy listening to uh ryle O Kylie.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sure and no doubt both very La bands. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>very one of them has child actors in it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>And then gwent Stefani and Anaheim Anaheim, she's an Anaheim.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think that's fine. Yeah, it's just like.

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<v Speaker 4>That kind of like rock like right, like whatever, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, yeah, I'm here, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll throw in best coast.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sure that's fair that sometimes, yeah, I'm sure, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>here we are. I've heard I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 3>have heard this, but like when you go to a

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<v Speaker 3>new city or whatever you're supposed to listen to, like

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<v Speaker 3>if you listen to a specific type of music or

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<v Speaker 3>new type of music, it will be tied to that city,

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<v Speaker 3>like the memory will be like the sense memory really

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<v Speaker 3>works for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>That's been that's been happening on this like little trip Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been to Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>I went for the first time last weekend, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on Instagram stories like screaming promoting the Hell Shop

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<v Speaker 4>and I type in I like take a little silly picture.

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<v Speaker 2>I put music to it.

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<v Speaker 4>I type in Chicago, I'm like, what songs called Chicago,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it hit me Sufi and stevens Oh, he

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<v Speaker 4>has the whole alcohol Yeah, Illinois, right and Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a song, right, And I put that on there,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like I fell in love again. All things go,

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<v Speaker 2>all things go. I'm going to do the whole song.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be quiet into the song. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing more comfortable than imitating Sufi and Stephens.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like making intense eye contact with you. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>I fell in love again. I don't. I haven't heard

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<v Speaker 2>that song in such a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>Same and then I like did go on a walk,

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<v Speaker 4>like an hour walk in Chicago and that song Like

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<v Speaker 4>at first I was like, oh ha haa, like whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>there's like a two thousand and four like completely indie

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<v Speaker 4>like whatever. And then I listened to the song and

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<v Speaker 4>it like hit me in this way that now it'll forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Be like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my memory of Chicago. And I listened to it

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<v Speaker 3>on the ride back to New York. I'm sure Sufien

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<v Speaker 3>would be so happy to hear this. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the beginning of his he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>do fifty states and then I think he did one, two,

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<v Speaker 3>two albums after states, right, that was why would you

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<v Speaker 3>announce that? I mean he truly was telling people, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to do fifty albums, one after each state of

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<v Speaker 3>the United States. Really, yes, this was a real thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then of course you can't do that, Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>would take three lifetimes. Yeah, so I think that was

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<v Speaker 3>the last. That was kind of the last one that

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<v Speaker 3>he did, and that's when he was announcing it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless, but so curious what New Jersey would have been, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I wanted to know what Utah would have been. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>literally what would those But he.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably wanted to know what any of those would have been,

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<v Speaker 3>Like he doesn't know the states that well, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 3>probably would have just ended up being like him reading

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<v Speaker 3>a Wikipedia article or sex strumming the guitar.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of, yeah, I haven't listened to it.

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<v Speaker 3>He feels like a very of a time and place,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I haven't really tried to revisit, but maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I should.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, well, I don't know his work, like super Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think he like just came out with a people.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I don't know there's I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>he think too much whispering for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I like have grown to like love that shit.

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<v Speaker 4>I love when a singer is like whispering or has

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<v Speaker 4>like I love that. Like in middle school, I played

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<v Speaker 4>trumpet okay, and my teacher I took it super serious

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, this is my life path. And

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<v Speaker 4>my teacher was like, you should listen to vocalists to

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<v Speaker 4>think that way when you're playing Okay. So he's like

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<v Speaker 4>Aretha Franklin, Karen Carpenter like, and I love he like

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<v Speaker 4>showed me like those artists. And then like at a

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<v Speaker 4>Barnes and Noble like those like CD preview things you

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<v Speaker 4>can like Barnes.

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<v Speaker 3>And I try an album. I wonder where those are all.

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<v Speaker 3>They must have just thrown them into a dump or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, yeah, I thought have one in my home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah me too. I love that feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh like and Mariah Carrey, Selein, Dion Whitneys and all

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<v Speaker 4>three of them like came into my life at the

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<v Speaker 4>same time. Oh incredible, And I just like went through

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<v Speaker 4>this like deep dive of like all three of them

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<v Speaker 4>and throughout middle school, like I thought good music would

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<v Speaker 4>only be if you like felt have the greatest voice technically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>if you like have that that that like grand like

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<v Speaker 4>incredible voice, then that's good music only.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it wasn't until high school where like that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of changed. And right now I'm like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>love I love a whisper. Right, but you're a good singer?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think so?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're a good singer from like the bits

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<v Speaker 3>of i've heard you singing, thank you so feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't you think you're you're a pretty decent singer.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you. I think I'm acknowledge that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm good at impersonating singing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, interest, well that's all you need. Yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 2>impersonate singing.

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<v Speaker 3>If I were to say, like, can you sing this note?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you be able to just do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe? Can you sing like a a middle C.

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<v Speaker 3>March Simpson's that comes out of piano?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't ray me? Wow, that's great. Did you ever take

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<v Speaker 2>singing lessons?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I was too scared of just trumpet trumpet? Yeah? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you still play the trumpet?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you own a trumpet?

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<v Speaker 3>And no?

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<v Speaker 4>I gave it away to a family member. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I do catch myself. I do like scales sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's just with your finger positioning of them air trumpet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I do that sometimes when I'm like thinking or oh interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like still somehow tied into your brain. Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 3>was the last time you played the trumpet?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably not since since, like maybe like sophomore year of

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<v Speaker 4>high school. Okay, Yeah, I like quit band when because

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<v Speaker 4>we you know, we got we go to a different

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<v Speaker 4>school for freshman year onwards, and it was a different program.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a different teacher, so and it was like

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<v Speaker 4>new students too, like from a different town that like

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<v Speaker 4>we share school with.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there ever temptation to join a SKA band? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>not SCA. I probably would want to do that now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that feels like the one place of trumpet's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a let or Sophie and Stevens probably right, or

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt kind of a SCA bank, Yeah, what is

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt? No Doubt's kind of scotti ish sco.

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<v Speaker 4>And then like then they can of send it to

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<v Speaker 4>like pop right, like they've even did a little reggae.

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<v Speaker 3>By right, some new wave new wave, yeah, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but ska feels to me very Anaheim. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>can see that, and I've never been.

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<v Speaker 3>You've never been? Oh, of course you haven't been it.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been to any sort of Disney prop?

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<v Speaker 2>I have nott never? Do you have any interest? I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I mean I think it's worth one time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>where's the nearest one in Anahei? That's that's Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 2>How far is that from here?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I think probably an hour drive. Okay, it's probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Like twenty miles or something. Uber there after this sudden

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<v Speaker 2>I inspired my cars here for sure, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>To take an uber to Disneyland. It probably cost three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Well you'll have to go at some point. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>always curious what an adult like that has been. I've been,

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<v Speaker 3>but I went as a kid, right, and that I've

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<v Speaker 3>been a few times since, and it's obviously such a

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<v Speaker 3>different experience as an adult.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Disney like everything too? Growing up?

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<v Speaker 3>When I was in like elementary school, I loved Disney.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved the idea of going to Disneyland. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>now when I go, I'm I have a hard time.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a pretty rough time there, right, But I

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<v Speaker 3>think it just entirely depends on who you're with.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you into like amusement parks and like rides?

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<v Speaker 3>And I like to like, if I'm on a ride,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having a good time, although I get really nauseous

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<v Speaker 3>now on most rides. Yeah, Like I was okay until

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<v Speaker 3>probably the end of high school, and now I get

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<v Speaker 3>so nauseous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you get no, I do. Don't go on ride.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't go on any terrified. Have you ever been

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<v Speaker 2>on a ride?

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<v Speaker 4>Like when I was little, like like maybe like middle

0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:28.879
<v Speaker 4>school was like the last time I tried.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, And then I was like, Nope, it's not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you afraid's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't probably die or something. But I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 4>not so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm like, uh, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like but now I've taken plane rides now, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>The weird thing about planes for me is I'm now

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.840
<v Speaker 3>getting more and more scared being on planes, like and

0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.040
<v Speaker 3>I've been on I think the more I go on planes, the.

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<v Speaker 2>More afraid I am.

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<v Speaker 3>No, which is very it feels like the opposite of

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 3>what should be happening. I don't know, but turbulence, don't

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 3>you get scared? During turbulence.

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've only experienced it once. Horrifying. Yeah, it

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 2>is scary.

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<v Speaker 4>I like woke up it was a red eye, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just like woke up in the middle of like sleeping,

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, and I was.

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Like, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay.

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 2>And I was also just so tired. You're just happy

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<v Speaker 2>to die anyway.

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was like, I'm down to die. And when

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:29.560
<v Speaker 4>you're so tired, you're down to die. Like do you

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 4>ever have that, Like, oh yeah, when you're like a

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 4>little paranoid, like you hear something in the middle of

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 4>the night in the hallway or something, but you're so

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 4>tired or like whatever.

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 3>So I can either go to sleep and die or

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 3>go to sleep and wake up. Yeah, that's how I am,

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.159
<v Speaker 3>like during turbulence, Like I go through an entire cycle

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 3>where I'm like, oh my god, we're gonna die, and

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.400
<v Speaker 3>then I have to like come to peace with that. Yeah,

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:55.679
<v Speaker 3>and then there's a moment where I'm like, well, at

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 3>least i won't be on the plane anymore. And then

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:01.199
<v Speaker 3>then I've finally come around to it because I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>everyone else seems fine, and even the flight attendants are

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 3>like walking around, So why am I.

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Having a meltdown? Right? Yeah? But what if it's the time? Wait,

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:09.640
<v Speaker 2>and I guess, then I guess it just then it's

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 2>just it's then it's over, and it's over.

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think we should talk about something else. Look, Richard,

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 3>I was very happy to have you here today. I

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 3>was really excited to have you come over and chat,

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 3>just looking forward to it. So it was a little

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 3>surprised the podcast is called I said no gifts, and I, okay,

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 3>come down to the driveway and you're standing there with

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<v Speaker 3>in a You're holding a huge bag. Yeah, it's clearly

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:43.160
<v Speaker 3>a gift. Okay, I'm just curious what's going on?

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, I just well, in New Jersey, we you know,

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 4>my MoMA raised made it. You know, I'm going over

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 4>to someone's house. I think it's polite to just bring something,

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 4>a little treat, Okay, sure to you know who's hosting me.

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.199
<v Speaker 4>And I'm just so excited to be here, to have

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 4>a conversation with you in your beautiful backyard. And I

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 4>thought maybe you would appreciate this gift.

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, should I open it here on the podcast

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 3>or I'm happy to open it at another time.

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I think you should open it.

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 3>It's in this enormous bag that's just thank you on it. Yes,

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 3>we're pulling it out.

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>The birds sound wonderful. Okay.

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Now it's in a little a little brown paper panera bag.

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now we're reaching in more. There's a napkin. Oh yeah,

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I forgot about that tissue paper. Oh and there's a

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:42.879
<v Speaker 2>cooking inside.

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 3>A cookie that's like covered in eminem's that are very

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 3>off color.

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll say, yeah, they really are.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:57.439
<v Speaker 3>These are the weirdest color like fake eminems I've ever seen.

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 3>There's like an army green, like a mustard yellow. I mean,

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 3>they're kind of tasteful, like it would be a taste

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 3>tasteful color palette in any other category, but as a candy,

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 3>it's very interesting.

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>You hate it. I hate it. I know I shouldn't

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 2>have done this. Tell me why you brought this to Okay.

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:25.679
<v Speaker 4>I need you to understand that this is incredibly intentional. Okay, okay,

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 4>and I put so much effort into this gift. Okay,

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:35.360
<v Speaker 4>So yesterday I arrived at Lax right right, and I'm

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 4>thinking about I'm like, oh, yeah, tomorrow morning I'm gonna

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 4>go to Bridgers.

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing his podcast. I gotta get him a little gift.

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 4>I want to I want to show him who I

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.439
<v Speaker 4>am some some semblence of that.

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 3>And I took an uber from the airport. Horrible experience

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 3>over there. It feels like children of Men anyway, it's horrible.

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:01.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I did that, okay, and then I take

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 4>an uber to the nearest Panera Bread, which was like

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 4>a ten minute drive outside the airport. Okay, I get there.

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:10.199
<v Speaker 4>I ordered myself a little meal. But then I was like,

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to bring a cookie to your house. Panera

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 4>Bread is very, very meaningful to me because it was

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 4>the first job I ever worked at as in high school, right,

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 4>and I worked there for like four years.

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 2>In what position cashier cook.

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 4>Cashier sometimes bury stock quote unquote in like dining room.

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I'd like clean the tables right right.

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 4>And so I was like, you know what, I think

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 4>Panera bread is something we can we can dive into.

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>This is Ebbs.

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think we kind of shared this in common.

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>I kind of worked at Utah's version of a Panera

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Bread one of my early jobs. And I probably told

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 3>this story on this podcast before but they accused me

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:52.360
<v Speaker 3>of burglarizing it.

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 2>But I was doing similar things. I was cashier.

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 3>Well, I was not to brag the night shift leader,

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 3>and so I had a lot of a lot on

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:05.479
<v Speaker 3>my plate. We were both working at kind of a

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 3>bakery where I don't know, it doesn't have a lot

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 3>of respect my bakery. Well, and I also had to

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:14.719
<v Speaker 3>do a thing where I had to rip apart a

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 3>whole turkey every morning. What Yeah, why, Well, when I

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 3>would work the day shift, they had like turkey on

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 3>their sandwiches, and so they would cook whole turkeys and

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 3>then you would have to like shred it at six

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 3>a m. Just with your bare hands, which is one

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 3>of the most disgusting possible things. Yeah, but I want

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 3>to hear about your Panera experience.

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 2>My Panera experience.

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<v Speaker 4>I started working there when I was sixteen, and then

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 4>I still worked there in college. Like I would bop

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 4>back like from like the location, yeah, when I was

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 4>on break and stuff like that. So I started working

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 4>there it was what like two thousand and like six

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 4>or seven or something, And I remember in training day

0:28:55.960 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 4>they were like, We're an oasis from the hustle bustle

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 4>of like everyday life. We're here to give people a

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 4>little break from all that stress. We would never open

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 4>a Panera Bread in a major city because we want

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 4>to keep things really like chill essentially. And then as

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 4>soon as I moved to New York City in twenty eleven,

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 4>they opened to their first location on J Street. That's

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 4>just so clearly not true, which I'm like, downtown Brooklyn.

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, that's crazy, and the whole I feel like

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 4>the vibe of the plate like chain like changed. Oh

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 4>so you felt an actual shift, yeah, because I'm like

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 4>my memory of Panera Bread even like the music. I

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 4>remember this song. I don't know the name of it.

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 4>If someone knows the name of the song, please let

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 4>me know. But this is how it goes.

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 2>You know that song, Okay, they would play that all time.

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Everyone's just losing their yeah on repeat, torturing their employees.

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 2>They would play that.

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 4>And then now I get the feeling when I go

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 4>to Panera Brea like more like now i feel like

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 4>they're like playing like we're just getting older and we

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 4>don't even get anymore Dana Dana, Like, I feel like

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 4>they would play more of that kind of stuff now, right,

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 4>So something changed.

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope.

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 3>That's the literally the only thing they've changed. They stop

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 3>playing circus music.

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 4>So something something, there was a shift there. And also

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 4>just like I don't know. My memory of it was like,

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, I thought Paneraba was like the most sophisticated,

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 4>like Raying, and I was just like, I don't know,

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 4>especially even like people I would see from high school there,

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, these are like the cool, like artsy like.

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, because it was like a bakery cafe.

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they like sit together in the corner, and

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, if only I could be like them.

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I bet Panera at some point did have more of

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>that vibe, and they've just expanded rapidly, right, Yeah, Because

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I remember in two thousand and five, my sister and

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I came to La under the most insane circumstances to

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 3>be in a Weezer music video.

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 2>We had zero money.

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I think we spent all of our money to get here,

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 3>and we probably had a total song.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's horrifying. The whole thing is hills.

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.719
<v Speaker 3>I have to defend myself. I didn't know what I

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 3>was walking into.

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh Z, can you speak? Can you see yourself in

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>the video? Yes?

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately I mean, you're going to watch that. Oh my,

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 3>I love that song so much.

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 2>It is a horrible piece of music.

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>So well, I'm definitely gonna be listening to that during

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 3>my time here in La adding it to the soundtrack.

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 3>But we came here with no money and we went

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 3>to Panera. I had never been, and it was like

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 3>that during that time of when you're you're like, you've

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 3>go on a trip and everything is incredible. And I

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 3>think we probably had a total of twenty six dollars

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 3>and we I don't know how we didn't starve that weekend,

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 3>but I think we split a brownie to eat it.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 3>But I was like, this is the best brownie I've

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 3>ever eaten, and it was at Panera bread Wow. But

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 3>now we took it after the shoot. This was before

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 3>before the shoot, and then we had craft services at

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 3>the shoot. It was at the Playboy Mansion. The whole

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 3>thing was just such a surreal experience. And then I

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 3>don't even know how we got home, I mean, how

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 3>we got back to the hotel or anything, but Panera

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 3>is a huge part of that trip for me. Eating

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.719
<v Speaker 3>a brownie at Panera, drinking a cactus cooler, and then

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 3>having craft services at the playpoint, Wow, did you feel

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 3>like you were a good Panera employee?

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 4>I feel like in some ways, yeah, okay, I was.

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 4>I was following the rules. I worked a lot, honestly,

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 4>because like there'd be some schedules were like I don't know,

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 4>like I just remember seeing the number of hours per

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 4>week at the end of it, right, it's like, this

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 4>is how many hours are working, and like there would

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 4>be some weeks where I'm working like thirty five hours.

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 2>That's a while.

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm like a full time student, right, that's a lot.

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, whoa, it's nearly a full time job.

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I like, I don't know, I had the

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 4>energy and I could just like do it or whatever.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 4>And I also just give you it was my first job,

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 4>and I just felt like I was like, oh my gosh,

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 4>Like I have my job and I can like I'm

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 4>getting get paid, right, four hundred dollars, and I could

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 4>do whatever. I can go to the mall, I can

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 4>like you know whatever, like get dinner with my friends.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.719
<v Speaker 4>Like I feel like an adult, right, And I was like, so,

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 4>I like, I think I'm mostly focused on that. It's

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 4>thrilling you get a paid check, and yeah, how much

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 4>were you making an hour?

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it was like eight.

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's not exactly how much I was making or something.

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 3>And I remember the daytime manager was making a lot

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 3>more money than me. I felt like I was getting

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 3>ripped off. But then I did not gloriz that. They

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 3>they did think I did. That thought you did. But

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 3>so you were a decent employee. Do you stay in

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 3>touch with any former employees.

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 4>I haven't in a while, but because like that job,

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 4>like I really feel like informed, like even like my

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 4>sense of humor, because I don't know, like working those

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 4>kinds of jobs, like it's not competitive necessarily, right, And

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 4>like we were most of us were like teenagers, were

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 4>like early twenties, and like we did not care, and

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 4>we were just so goofy and playful and like the

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 4>inside jokes we'd come up with, like it was crazy.

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.399
<v Speaker 4>It just felt so like, Yeah, I don't know, there's

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 4>just some some characters there that I feel like totally

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 4>have like stayed with me right since then, But I yeah,

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 4>like there's these two people who we dm here and there,

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 4>Jenny and Melissa. We they're still like best friends. Oh

0:34:54.600 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 4>that's great, Yeah, okay, well yeah right, no now they're yeah,

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 4>they're doing something completely different. But I hope the stars

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 4>the line and we like hang out again because I'm

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 4>sure we could just like go three hours of just reminiscing.

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's like about that of course.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, those like part time jobs are so strange because

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 3>you put get put into a group of people that

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 3>you probably never spend.

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Time with otherwise.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah then yeah, you all kind of don't like being there,

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 3>but it's fun anyway, right, Yeah, I think bonding Yeah,

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.720
<v Speaker 3>that way, it's like no other Like once you actually

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 3>start doing career things, there's I don't feel like there's

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 3>any other thing that can compare to that. Right, And

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 3>like to be at a job where you just don't

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 3>care about the quality of the product, that's such a

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 3>great feeling.

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Literally every coffee I ever made was returned to

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 3>the counter where they were like this, you didn't do

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 3>this correctly, But I shouldn't have been allowed to do

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 3>that anyway.

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Uh, do you want to try the cookie? Yeah? I

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>think you should try it. Not, at least you want

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 2>to try some cooking here. Okay, everyone grabs they're they're like,

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 2>soft is a decent cookie.

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 3>It's good, right, it has every right to be a

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 3>bad cookie. Yeah, it's really not bad.

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Color looks crazy, but it tastes, tastes good and tastes good.

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 3>The eminems really are like I hope that that's like

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 3>a purposeful It looks like they found them in a

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 3>closet or something.

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're like expired Eminem's or they're a memory of eminem.

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 2>They are kind of like a like a seventies memory. Yeah,

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 2>seventies memory.

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's like a filter over them.

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 2>What was your order at Panera?

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.240
<v Speaker 4>I remember the first one I ever had that I

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 4>repeated again and again was a bacon turkey Bravo Bravo.

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if they still do it, but it

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 4>was like a tomato basil bread thick slice. And then

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 4>there was like bacon turkey tomato. I forget what cheese.

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 4>I think it was a Gouda cheese or something. This

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 4>like Bravo sauce, which was essentially like thousand Island dress,

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 4>and then like at us or something, and with a

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 4>tomato soup.

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh that sounds true, mummy tomato. It was so good.

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 2>And I would also get the Italian combo too. What's

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 2>in the Italian combo.

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:18.320
<v Speaker 3>For catcha bread with turkey. I think there's like maybe

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 3>ham ham sure prolonge okay, no or Swiss no prolong

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:27.320
<v Speaker 3>caper and chinik. The first time I never heard that word.

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 3>I still to this day mumbled up because I don't

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 3>know that I'm pronouncing it correct. When I have to

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 3>order it somewhere, I just kind of yeah, pointing a

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Mrginiini to make sure you catch the beginning and the

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 3>ending GINII, Oh thank you.

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was really really yummy.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was my order, and I don't When I

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 4>went yesterday, I just got like the soup in the

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 4>mac and cheese, okay, which when I worked there, the

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:00.359
<v Speaker 4>mac and cheese was like new.

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh that was like brand new. Has it held up? Yeah?

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Good for them.

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm so I've baffled though, because you flew into

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 3>lax and then you took an uber specifically to a Panera.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to specifically get you this. This was so. It

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't for lunch, No, it was for it was incredible. Okay,

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 2>that makes more that I was.

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 4>Like, I'm gonna I was like, this will open a door.

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 4>I love it to talk about Panera the past. It's

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 4>wherever we want to go.

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Yes, of course with I could talk about this topic

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 3>truly all day. I had so many part time jobs

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 3>like this. Yeah, one that was so similar. My very

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 3>first job was at Schlatsky's Delhi. Have you ever heard

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.280
<v Speaker 3>of this? No, it's like a chain out of Texas,

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 3>I think, But is that kind of in the same category,

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 3>except for every sandwich is like on an English muffin

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 3>or something very odd? And I worked there for three days,

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:55.240
<v Speaker 3>quit and never got paid. They still only probably sixty

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 3>dollars wait a little longer and gee, but it was

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 3>like a taste of a first job that was just

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 3>so miserable. I was like, I can't do this. I

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 3>think it was in ninth grade, but then I think

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 3>my next job was at Gecko's Mexican Grill.

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 2>First day was on nine to eleven. Oh my god.

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 2>So just a lot of.

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Things like that, right, But after Panera, did you have

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 3>another job like this or was this kind of your

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 3>last chain restaurant job?

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I've worked retail too.

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 4>Where I've worked retail at Esop okay, which I've realized

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 4>on this trip has been like my north star for

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 4>cities because I'm like, I went to Chicago, Seattle, Portland.

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Never been to either of those places.

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 3>So when I have some time off, I'm like, I

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.839
<v Speaker 3>want to walk around, So I google, like, Where's Esop

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 3>because I know the area, like other shops or a

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 3>little cafe like some cutesy little like suggests a neighborhood. Yeah,

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 3>and so I type Esop and then I go to

0:39:56.680 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 3>so like I go to ESOPs whenever I travel, travel

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:06.399
<v Speaker 3>tip for anyone, and yeah, I just I just checked

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 3>that out. I worked there for like two years, like

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen or like twenty eighteen.

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Did they give you an employee discount? They did good

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:14.879
<v Speaker 2>discount bad?

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.839
<v Speaker 4>It was pretty good actually, And they also gave us

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 4>like free like like shrink, which was like if a

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 4>customer return even if they like didn't open it, they

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 4>just wanted to exchange something.

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 2>It's immediately unsellable. Yeah, we couldn't. We can't sell it.

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 2>We can't resell it.

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 4>So we would just collect that and then divide it

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 4>amongst our correc at the end of the month.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 3>So my whole bathroom everything was ESA. Oh and I

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 3>had an expensive back full full skincare routine like seven

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 3>step routine at that time.

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 2>But you're no longer doing that routine.

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 3>No unsustainable, I imagine, Yeah, I wonder if they don't

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 3>allow it because they think people like went home and

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 3>stuck a syringe into the soap or whatever you filled

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 3>it with poison. I'm not yeah that yeah, like if

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 3>it's unopened, I don't but that's the only thing I

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 3>can imagine. They probably also charge way more than what

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 3>it's worth, so it's probably right, like the markup is

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 3>probably enormous on soap that they're just like whatever, like right, well,

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 3>just I don't think I've ever actually been in any

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 3>sub you have. Obviously I have seen and used the product.

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's like for as a customer, it's

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 4>like so nice. How so because like you walk in

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 4>and I think, here you can get a little weird,

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 4>like depending on the vibe of the person, of course,

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 4>but like like I don't know, some people like walk

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.800
<v Speaker 4>up to you like Hi, what brings you in today,

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 4>and you're just like, I'm just taking a browse.

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh are you familiar with with the brand, And you're

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 2>just like yeah, no, whatever.

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 4>You can go from there and then, but if you

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 4>are looking for like a product, especially skincare, something a

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 4>little bit more prescriptive. They can like walk you through

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:54.720
<v Speaker 4>it and they take you to the basin.

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh. They have like the hand washing, Yeah, I love

0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 2>and then they do it. They do it on your hand.

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 4>Then you get to like feel it and smell it

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 4>and they give you samples. They also have like tea

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 4>or like Osha BORI like sometimes I have that and

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 4>like the colder weather. It's incredible cool off for warm

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 4>your fate, steam it whatever.

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe I'll go to one today. Yeah. They treat

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 2>you so well.

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 3>And when I stopped working there, and then when I

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 3>came here to lay for the first time, I was like,

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 3>let me pop by the silver like location and I

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 3>was like holding my breath, like I'm like, I can't

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:30.839
<v Speaker 3>let them know that I used to work at because

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I want to be treated like like a customer. I

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 3>would never work here, yeah, because I don't know there's

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 3>something in me that's like nervous that they'll be like,

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 3>oh you did you know?

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 2>And that drops like that. Then their tone changes with me.

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there would be right, Yeah, they're like oh yeah,

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 2>so did you feel like you were treated at that point?

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 3>It feels like you're like a secret shopper where you're

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 3>like doing a quality assurance chip.

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Were you treated well on this trip at the Silver?

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Like okay?

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 4>The Silver I was okay, But then I I went

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 4>there twice. The second time, I bought something for my

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 4>friend who I was staying with, and they asked for

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 4>your first or last name, you know, for a client

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 4>profile they can log your purchases, you know whatever, and

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 4>I created a new one with my personal email and

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 4>so I gave them that. But then the guy found

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 4>my like other account and was just like, oh, you

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 4>used to work here, and then I was like my

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 4>face just like dropped and I was like, yeah, yeah.

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Like forever ago. I'm a different person here.

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 4>He's like, oh cool, like where and I'm like New

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 4>York and I was just completely like, I was like,

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 4>I want to die.

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to die.

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 3>I want to die.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to die. I want to die. He's like,

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 2>do you want samples?

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 1>Load?

0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Like sure, Oh that's good, because that interact could go

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 3>either way where they're like, oh you fraud or they're like,

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 3>oh you're part.

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Of the family, right, you know what this is? Yeah,

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:07.479
<v Speaker 2>Well I'm glad that works.

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 4>I just I just feel embarrassed because definitely before we

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 4>got to check out.

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, this is so lovely, completely exposed.

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you saw that, Like I was caught.

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 4>It's so embarrassing.

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, oh it smells good.

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 3>I think I would have tried to keep up the

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 3>line like someone's using my name, yeah, like one if

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 3>your employees us.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh no, wow, Well I have to try that.

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I should go.

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 3>We were talking about Keels on a recent episode The

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Keels Experience and been in their store. I haven't, Actually,

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it's a similar thing. Yeah, me too,

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure. I just like to go in and get

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 3>I like to use a free standing sink. I think

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 3>that's what's really important to me. Yeah, to go into

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 3>a retail store and just see a sink free of

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 3>a bathroom and washway.

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's a novelty.

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is lovely, just like pop in. I just

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 4>gotta watch. And I remember some people would do that,

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 4>like in the summer, if you leave the door open,

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:11.959
<v Speaker 4>customer would come in and be like can.

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I just wash my hands? Really? Yeah?

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, of course, And I'm like that's fabulous.

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 2>That's not a bad idea.

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Every retail store should just have a sink to kind

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 3>of pop in and wash your hands. Yeah, especially in

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 3>New York when it's almost like bathrooms are inaccessible.

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, much harder to get too. Oh. And then

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 2>then other job.

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>That I worked at too was Everlane Ever Like, well,

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 3>you've really worked at nice retails, like retail stores that

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 3>are you know. What's so funny is like Panera Bread

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 3>was like at that time, newer, and it had this

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 3>like appeal of like I don't know, like it almost

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 3>was like reminds me a little bit of Aesop. It

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 3>had this like word of mouth sort of like it's

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:57.879
<v Speaker 3>buzzy buzzy yees because.

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, and I remember them saying like we would

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 4>never advertise, like you wouldn't see us on like a

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.879
<v Speaker 4>billboard or a magazine or TV like.

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 2>The way they turned.

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah they yeah, And I remember Esop like, and I

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 4>think may probably stay true to this. But their strategy

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 4>is also kind of that like word of mouth, Like

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 4>they provide their hand wash in like you know, intentionally,

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.919
<v Speaker 4>like in different like restaurants or establishments or whatever that

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 4>from there, like people will be like, oh, this is

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 4>so nice and the bottles really cute, and then they

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 4>like get led to a store right and they're like, oh, yeah,

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 4>I saw your hand wash at this restaurant and whatever.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 4>You take it from there. But yeah, I feel like both,

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, there's like that kind of theme or

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:53.919
<v Speaker 4>that kind of ethos. Yeah that I guess I just

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 4>kind of strive yeah, yeah.

0:46:57.920 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 2>And what was ever what was I've never been.

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:03.320
<v Speaker 4>In an f neither Everlane. I don't know if Everlaine's

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 4>necessarily trying to do the same thing.

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 4>But their thing is like radical transparency or something yeah

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 4>like that, so they're like, oh, like we'll let you know.

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:15.439
<v Speaker 4>Like I think on their website you can see how

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 4>much like the process of how the products are made

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 4>to like how much they cost to what you're getting

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 4>charged interesting or something, so you know, like why it's

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:29.919
<v Speaker 4>expensive yeah, or like that you are getting a good

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 4>deal and that like this isn't like exploitative or like

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 4>labor or anything like Like I can't even picture what

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 4>an Everlain piece of clothing looks like.

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I have a sweater on. Oh, it's very nice. So

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of casual.

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 3>What staple pieces right right, Like you want you know,

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 3>go to Jenes go to like buying up suirt jacket, you.

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Can go there.

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Did you work on commission? No, thank god, that would

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 3>stress me out. Yeah, that I've never experienced. I don't

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 3>think I could do it ever worked. Yeah, I worked

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.879
<v Speaker 3>at the Apple store. Oh really, no commission there, no commission. Yeah,

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 3>that was a fine job that Actually I didn't mind

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 3>that job at all. But the weird thing was it

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 3>was the first Apple store in Salt Lake City, and

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 3>so it was like obviously packed all the time. And

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 3>it was during a period when Apple was like really

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 3>focused on how their stores looked, even more so than

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 3>they are now, and so they wouldn't have security devices

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 3>on anything. And this was like iPods were very popular

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 3>at the time, and like teens would come in and

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 3>just knock like multiple iPods into a bag and walk

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 3>out of the store, and we couldn't do anything about it.

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 3>People were just stealing NonStop.

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit. It was a but I feel like that's.

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:37.959
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like a mall thing, where like you can't

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 3>really confront a shoplifter. Yeah, so people just come in

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 3>and take whatever they want. It's so bold, which is

0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 3>good for them. Yeah, I was so scared.

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I would be terrified. Yeah, have you ever shoplifted. Yeah

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:54.320
<v Speaker 2>from where ma see's what did you steal? I stole?

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 4>This is like in my show, which is so funny,

0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 4>but I'm like, I stole a T shirt and jeans,

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:03.880
<v Speaker 4>skinny jeans. I think it was like Levi's and like

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.919
<v Speaker 4>Calvin Client, like a Calvin Klein T shirt that said

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Calvin Clin on it and these skinny jeans. And I

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 4>was making a return to Lord and Taylor a cardigan,

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 4>shopping a cardigan. Something's ever changed, and like I was,

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:23.720
<v Speaker 4>I was like exchanging size or something. And then I

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 4>walked through Macy's and I got caught stealing. I don't

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 4>know what came over me, but I like decided to steal.

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 4>And and I was sixteen, and I feel like that year,

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 4>I was like I'm gonna st it. Yeah, I want

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 4>to go for it, like I like stole from like

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 4>a thrift store, Like I stole a full ass jacket

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 4>from the thrift store. So I was like, I was

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 4>like I can I can do anything. I felt like invincible,

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 4>and so then I was like, I can steal from Macy's.

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Like people always steal from Macy's.

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:58.919
<v Speaker 4>So then I tried and then I was caught instantly

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 4>how they were like watching me. I guess I was

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 4>probably being so sus I was probably just.

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Like really like like I starting, yeah, like.

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Just looking everywhere, like contemplating, pacing back and forward, like

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 3>should I do it?

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 2>When I? Should I do it? Should I?

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 3>And then finally running to the dressing room. Running out,

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 3>I took two steps out of Macy's. Then this like

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 3>huge security guard, the deepest voice was like, excuse me,

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.880
<v Speaker 3>where do you think you're going with those jeans? And

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I was like I'm I. He's like, yeah, those jeans.

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 3>He like pointed at my shopping bag and then he's

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 3>like come with me, and I was like I can

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:44.440
<v Speaker 3>pay for it, like I have money, like how you know,

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 3>like I had like eighty dollars or something. I'm like,

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I'll pay for the jeans like that. He's like you

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:49.800
<v Speaker 3>should have thought about that before he stole.

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:52.839
<v Speaker 2>So what happened? Did they take you into a back room? Yes,

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 2>they took me. Did they threaten like calling the police?

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:57.439
<v Speaker 2>They took me to the back room. Yeah. The guy

0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:59.760
<v Speaker 2>like there was this guy I just remember.

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 4>He was kind of like, so we've been watching you

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like oh, and there's like little screens. Yeah,

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 4>and I was like ah, and he like interrogated me,

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 4>was asking me all these questions, and I was like

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.960
<v Speaker 4>so terrified. I feel like I was just like telling

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 4>him anything and I was just like I don't know.

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I just I was gonna go to New York. And

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 2>he's like, what are you doing in New York? And

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like I was just gonna go there with my friends.

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 3>I just like I'm taking pictures. Like He's like, what

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:29.400
<v Speaker 3>do you take pictures of? And I'm like i don't know,

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 3>just like anything. I want to go to art school

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 3>and like he was just like art school, what are

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:35.919
<v Speaker 3>you gonna do there?

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I really don't know. You're on a date.

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:43.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I went on a speed date with him and

0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 4>he I just remember he was just like usually we

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 4>have to call the police.

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to do that.

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 4>He's like, you seem I remember, he was like you

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 4>seem like a good kid who fucked up, and he's

0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 4>like you know, but before he said that, he was

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 4>just like like, you know, you can get in big

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 4>trouble doing stuff like this, Like you know, we can

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 4>call the police and this will be on your record.

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:11.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know that dream.

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 4>You have about going to art school and you can

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 4>kiss that goodbye. I was like, pit, my stomach's like turning,

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 4>and I'm just like, what's gonna happen to me? What

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 4>did I just do? I like just ruined my life?

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, oh my god. And then yeah,

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 4>he had to He called my mom and that was

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 4>like I can hear her voice, like I'll never forget,

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:41.839
<v Speaker 4>like him calling her and he's like, hello, we have

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:45.400
<v Speaker 4>your son, Richard Perez here at Macy's security department.

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:47.759
<v Speaker 2>He was caught stealing we blah blah blah.

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 4>And then he backs his head away from the phone

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 4>because she's screaming.

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I just hear her.

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Like like, and I was like, I'm fucked. So she

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 4>had to pay, like should pay a fine to get

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 4>me out?

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, what the Macy's fine? What does that mean? Yeah,

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Macy's law.

0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 4>I think it was like that had like my mom

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.279
<v Speaker 4>had to pay the amount of what those things were.

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, that feels illegal to or something. Yeah. Part

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 2>of me was like maybe it wasn't really just taking

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.959
<v Speaker 2>our money or something right, And he was like, yeah,

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:24.359
<v Speaker 2>we won't call the cops. We only take cash. Yeah,

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:25.880
<v Speaker 2>it was weird.

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.919
<v Speaker 4>But then he was like, you are banned from ever

0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:33.120
<v Speaker 4>entering a Macy's for I think he said ten years.

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:34.880
<v Speaker 2>That's not enforceable.

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 4>And he was like, you know, are we gonna know

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 4>where you like you're in a Macy's. No, but he's like,

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 4>but if you get caught stealing again into Macy's, it

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 4>will show up and then we'll press charges.

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:48.279
<v Speaker 3>So you're been from stealing from Macy's ever. But I

0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:51.240
<v Speaker 3>was terrified of Macy's for ten years.

0:53:51.280 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Have you been in yes? I think literally for the

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.400
<v Speaker 2>first time, like two years ago. How did that feel?

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 4>I could just like laugh about it. I was like,

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:04.359
<v Speaker 4>why was I so scared? It wasn't so bad.

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:05.719
<v Speaker 3>That is incredible.

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's just, yeah, it is grind.

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's traumatic. Though my brother, my mom had

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 3>taken me and my siblings to this. It was kind

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 3>of like Kmart was called shop Coo to just like

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 3>buy stuff, and my brother switched the price tag on

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 3>like a model plane, and she, my mom bought it

0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 3>not knowing this, and then we were caught and then

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 3>it was just literally the whole family crying. They're like

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 3>back in the security room, just harassing my mom. It

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:40.879
<v Speaker 3>was a wild experience, especially over something like a nine

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 3>year old did. Is an interesting thing to a hard

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.239
<v Speaker 3>stance on that. But I guess maybe they thought my

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:47.960
<v Speaker 3>mom was the leader of a crime ring.

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And they were like, we're going to

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:50.799
<v Speaker 2>get our son to.

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's using children to steal to get discounts on

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 3>toy planes.

0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:54:57.920 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like that must be behind us that

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 3>left that time of security. Yeah, although I don't know,

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm still a tempted to shoplift, Like I could take this,

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 3>have you not? As an adult, I've stolen so much.

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:13.160
<v Speaker 3>There's like a thrift store chain in Utah that I

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 3>would steal from as a teenager all the time. I

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:18.480
<v Speaker 3>probably stole. I definitely have stolen there as an adult. Yeah,

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, I don't want to pay for this,

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:22.120
<v Speaker 3>right and who cares?

0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Right? Literally, who cares?

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 3>But there's a thrilled to shoplifting there. I encourage anyone

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 3>to do it. Yeah, I think people should go for it.

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:31.600
<v Speaker 2>It's free.

0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:35.879
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna I'm gonna endorse that too. It's an adread rush,

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:40.040
<v Speaker 4>you know those big companies, right, of course, see what happened. Yeah,

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 4>I feel like my sister has unintentionally shoplifted because she

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:45.360
<v Speaker 4>has kids and they like put things into.

0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:48.919
<v Speaker 2>Her shopping card. That kind of thing. Now, so I say,

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 2>go for it.

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 4>I remember one time I was really little, like Pokemon.

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 4>I was like obsessed with Pokemon and I was like

0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 4>collecting cards and I stole a pack of cards like

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:04.319
<v Speaker 4>from like a Canian store or whatever, and my dad like,

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I slid them into my jacket sleeves or whatever.

0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:09.120
<v Speaker 2>It's very magician.

0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:12.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then when we stepped out, they fell out

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<v Speaker 4>of my pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was kind of like, wait, what is that?

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, oh, this is from like earlier,

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, oh okay, he like didn't really question it,

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:27.800
<v Speaker 4>which I was like truly touched by an angel, because

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:29.880
<v Speaker 4>of course I don't even know what happened.

0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, even as an adult, like the parent in that situation,

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:33.360
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't want to be like, now I have to

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<v Speaker 3>take you back into Yeah, mom, I have to learn

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<v Speaker 3>a lesson, right. I don't have the time or the

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:39.839
<v Speaker 3>energy for this kind of thing. Yeah, did you get

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<v Speaker 3>any good cards in the Pokemon pack?

0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember that pack, but I mean I did

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 4>have all one hundred and fifty.

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Wow. That's a fresh generation. Wow.

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 4>And I I think it's at my dad's place, Like

0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 4>there's a binder that has like me and my brother

0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:57.400
<v Speaker 4>collected Pokemon cards and we still have the one hundred

0:56:57.440 --> 0:56:57.840
<v Speaker 4>and fifty.

0:56:58.080 --> 0:56:59.879
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that must be worth something at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>If anyone is interested in buying our cards, please reach

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 4>out so down to sell them.

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Was it hard getting to one hundred and fifty? Yeah?

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I think probably to buy trade them too, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>At school, it's like, oh, I have two of these

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:17.520
<v Speaker 4>holographic one like or whatever.

0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'll trade you one of them for that

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 3>other one. Right, So there was that kind of thing.

0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 4>I think eventually my brother and I were both like

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<v Speaker 4>full time trying to.

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Kind of became a career. Yeah, did you have a

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<v Speaker 3>favorite Pokemon?

0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean I think classic, like Jigglypuff is someone that I

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 4>think has made me who I am today and made

0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 4>me want to be.

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 3>A Performerglypuff is a performer, yeah, first and foremost singer.

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's all jigglypuffed up.

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 4>The tragedies that like everyone sleeps and like Jigglypuff doesn't

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:51.000
<v Speaker 4>feel horrible yeah, and.

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Kind of does their own thing. Yeah. Well that's a

0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:56.320
<v Speaker 2>good choice though, that makes perfect sense. Were you into

0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Jigglypuff I Pokemon? Yeah, I like Jigglypuff.

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I liked the middle of the chars chars Ard, what's Charmander?

0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Charmander like Charmander's the first Yes, and I liked There

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:15.480
<v Speaker 3>were various forms of Pikachu, but I wasn't Pikachu's fine. Yeah,

0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 3>they're like smaller versions Piachu. Piachu I loved, which was

0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 3>somehow even cuter than Pikacha. Yes, a really adorable little creature. Yeah,

0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:27.280
<v Speaker 3>I love Piachu. Right, cho Wright's kind of like a

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 3>more mature, cooler Pikachu.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think we should play a game. Okay, we've

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<v Speaker 3>got to play Gift to a Curse. I needed a

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<v Speaker 3>number between one and ten from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven.

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I have to do some light calculating right now

0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 3>to get our game pieces. You have the microphone, you

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 3>can recommend, promote, do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everyone, my name is Richard. If you.

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:58.400
<v Speaker 4>Didn't catch that from the title of this episode. I

0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:02.280
<v Speaker 4>am on tour right now doing my show. It's called

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 4>I have to do this, and by the time this

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:07.880
<v Speaker 4>comes out, I would have been done with it, but

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 4>I will be continuing to do the show again in

0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 4>New York, LA, and there's talks of in the near

0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:20.320
<v Speaker 4>future going to San Francisco. I got a DM from

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:24.520
<v Speaker 4>a venue in Massachusetts near Boston that reached out. It

0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:26.800
<v Speaker 4>looked really cute, like a cute little black box theater,

0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, that's literally where I want to do

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 4>the show. So I'm going to talk to them and

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:33.800
<v Speaker 4>potentially maybe I'll be doing it there.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, think about that beautiful. I hope this is

0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 2>how the venue finds out. Yeah, they're like, oh, so

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 2>he wants to do it. He refuses to answer our emails. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't answered.

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 3>But everyone goes see Richard, follow Richard on whatever social

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:55.440
<v Speaker 3>media to do whatever you want. This is how we

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<v Speaker 3>play Gift to a Curse and the name three things.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll tell me if there are a gift or a curse,

0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 3>and and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>because there are correct answers. This first is a suggestion

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<v Speaker 3>from a listener named Ayana ai y a n a

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<v Speaker 3>that feels right, Ayanna, Gift to a Curse. People who

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<v Speaker 3>get a lot of likes on comments and then edit

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<v Speaker 3>the comment to thank the people for liking it.

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<v Speaker 2>Curse why.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you don't need to do that. I think

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<v Speaker 4>just own it. You did it, amazing that you're having

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<v Speaker 4>a moment and that it shined. And just trust that

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<v Speaker 4>whoever really received it received it, and whoever wants to

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<v Speaker 4>then go on the journey with you, they'll go on

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<v Speaker 4>the journey with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong. Wrong, Okay, I think that's it. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's it. I've never seen this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I love this idea of kind of monitoring

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<v Speaker 3>how many likes your comment is getting and then returning later.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea of editing and saying, hi, everyone, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>liking my comment is an incredible idea to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'll do it. I think we should all start

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. You've never done it. I've never done it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm willing to try. Okay, maybe I'll try. How

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<v Speaker 2>many likes does your comment need to get for you

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<v Speaker 2>to return to think? True?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I'm like, I also don't comment that much. I

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<v Speaker 4>realized I don't know if I do. It's like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>an emoji, right, I never like? Aha, and like, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaving an essay for people to enjoy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't have like quippy like one line like

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<v Speaker 4>more like blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know a lot of people like it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you could return to thank people for liking the emoji.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I think it's worth.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never have you seen this on a lease. This

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<v Speaker 3>behavior is interesting to me. I mean it makes perfect when.

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<v Speaker 4>You post this, I'm just gonna comment and be like,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you for liking my comment.

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<v Speaker 3>You're now committed comment on that, then return to edit that.

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<v Speaker 3>This is it's gonna like shut down the servers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I won't be able to handle how much editing is happening.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know you could even edit a comment. Yeah

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really either, just like it was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>set in stone. Yeah, but I guess that's the thing

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<v Speaker 3>you got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Number two This is from a listener named Matt Gifter.

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<v Speaker 2>A curse cookie spread cook nice spread.

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<v Speaker 3>I assume that's like, you know, like a Trader Joe

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<v Speaker 3>is I have, like it's like peanut butter, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>made from cookies.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, a curse? Why?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I think it's also you know, just trust yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like it's you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want cookies and.

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<v Speaker 4>Peanut butter together, literally just get a cookie and put

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<v Speaker 4>peanut butter on it. It almost reminds me of like

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<v Speaker 4>blueberry lemon saltzer. What like, what is cookie like spread?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it? Cookie and oil just crushed together.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, do you make cookie oil like out

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<v Speaker 3>of like a cookie?

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<v Speaker 2>And then you ask me, I've never even considered this.

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<v Speaker 2>How would do they get? A liquid? Cookie? Is such

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<v Speaker 2>a dry thing? Yeah? On at least you have any

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<v Speaker 2>idea what the ingredients are in this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just just so it's you have to

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<v Speaker 3>take bisk Off cookies or Speculus cookies and then you

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<v Speaker 3>boil them.

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<v Speaker 2>You need coconut oil, honey, ground cinnamon. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know everything in there sounds really good to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not seeing it. At least don't get in on this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a curse. It's a bad idea for product.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's just like, I mean, it's just essentially frosting,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't that what we're talking about? So just and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know where you even put that? Where do you

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<v Speaker 3>put the cookies spread? You're not making a sandwich out

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I don't get that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a bad idea for product. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I love peanut butter. Yeah, helicopter is roaring through the backyard,

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely crashing through the.

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<v Speaker 2>Backyard because you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>It's straighter shokes. No, it's on a leash. You've been unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 2>Let go.

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<v Speaker 3>The rest of I'll produce the rest of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>No curse, job on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Number three. This is from a listener named Calli Gifter.

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<v Speaker 3>A curse marrying the Homecoming King.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh shit, homecoming King, as in a like like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>like thirty three, like marrying him.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn. I think I'm so sorry. I think it's a curse.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think some things are just I mean, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>I just it's I mean, this is so like boring.

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<v Speaker 4>But like you know the classic like you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>peak in high school blah blah blah or whatever, like

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<v Speaker 4>if that's kind of the vibe, like I think the

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<v Speaker 4>Homecoming King. Maybe I'm just thinking of a specific kind

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<v Speaker 4>of person that like flops after that moment, right, and

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<v Speaker 4>then to like marry a flop and if they and

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<v Speaker 4>then also if this Homecoming King is being so like,

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<v Speaker 4>but I was the homecoming King. It's like, come on,

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<v Speaker 4>you gotta let it go. You gotta let it go.

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<v Speaker 4>Then that's a curse. But if he's like so chill,

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<v Speaker 4>he's just like, yeah, it's homecoming King. It was so dumb.

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<v Speaker 4>I was homecoming King, and he just like is still

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<v Speaker 4>fine as hell and sweet doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Popular And that's a little blessing.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm gonna just I'm gonna envision that this is

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<v Speaker 4>like someone that's like high school was my glory days.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's a curse.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'd love to try to find a way

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<v Speaker 3>to say you're wrong here, but I think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you've made a very I mean, every one of your

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<v Speaker 3>points is exactly on think you. I mean the idea

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<v Speaker 3>of like anyone after age, when do you become the

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<v Speaker 3>homecoming king.

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<v Speaker 2>Like seventeen seventeen or seventeen yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten minutes after that, you shouldn't be talking about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine being in an adult relationship with someone who I

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<v Speaker 3>don't don't feel like it's the right thing to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>although you know, go for it, right, That's actually it's

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<v Speaker 3>a gift.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an absolute gift. This person's accomplished something.

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<v Speaker 3>They really they've got something in their past that they

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<v Speaker 3>can bling to.

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<v Speaker 4>Like success is like so young and also to lose

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<v Speaker 4>it and then maybe get it back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they really have kind of experienced the entire rate

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<v Speaker 3>of life so early and can build from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've really married kind of a jam and you

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<v Speaker 3>found the best person in high school and he's nothing

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<v Speaker 3>but gold from there. I mean, we all know that

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<v Speaker 3>the Homecoming King is.

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<v Speaker 2>As good as it gets. Yeah, so it's a gift.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're the three of us sitting here or

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<v Speaker 3>not married to the Homecoming King, and that probably played

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<v Speaker 3>into our answers, our initial answers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm sorry to anyone who's a homecoming king. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>really sorry, and I'm sure you're wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, I feel like you kind of got I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know how to calculate what you've got for

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<v Speaker 3>a score this time, because the last answer we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of circled back on. But you did a decent job. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>good job, Thank you. This is the final segment of

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast. It's called I Said No Emails. People write

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<v Speaker 3>into I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com just

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<v Speaker 3>in need of answers. Advice guidance. Will you hope me

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<v Speaker 3>answer a question? Okay, yeah, Okay. This is highbridger, so

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't even mention you, which is fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, says I.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a non gift related question. You said, the emails

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<v Speaker 3>can be about anything, okay, pointing fingers. I have been

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<v Speaker 3>seeing my current therapist for about six months. She has

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<v Speaker 3>been pretty helpful, and while she never takes notes, she

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<v Speaker 3>seems to recall every detail I've spoken about week after

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<v Speaker 3>a week. I am an artist and talk a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about how my work relates to my lived experience in

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<v Speaker 3>what I believe was an attempt to relate to me.

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<v Speaker 3>This therapist has recently revealed that she is a screenwriter.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me say we do not live in hot Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>We are in a small city on the East Coast.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder where this could possibly be, but she's made

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<v Speaker 3>it clear in the latest sessions that she is passionate

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<v Speaker 3>about her scripts and getting them made into films. This

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<v Speaker 3>therapist is talking a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>In one of our reservices, in one of our recent meetings,

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<v Speaker 3>she said, talking to you is like walking through an

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<v Speaker 3>old library filled with stories I want to read. First,

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<v Speaker 3>I was flattered thinking that she finds me terribly interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>She later admitted that after a career changed from architect

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<v Speaker 3>to licensed therapists. While this person is the career changes

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<v Speaker 3>are big swings. She changed from architect to licensed therapists,

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<v Speaker 3>she just wanted a job where she could listen to

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<v Speaker 3>people's stories all day. Now, I'm concerned that this major

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<v Speaker 3>career move was made purely to gain fodder for her

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<v Speaker 3>own written stories. I'm bringing this quandary to you being

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<v Speaker 3>that you yourself are a screenwriter and have often Hollywood types.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at Richard right now on your podcast. What

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<v Speaker 3>do you say it might be fun to see my

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<v Speaker 3>trauma played out on the big screen one? Or am

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<v Speaker 3>I wasting my time and this woman isn't capable of

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<v Speaker 3>truly helping me while she's preoccupied with memorizing the most

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<v Speaker 3>compelling aspects of my tales? What do you guys think,

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<v Speaker 3>Molly whoa this therapist started as an architect, became a

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<v Speaker 3>therapist and is clearly making another pivot to film to film.

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<v Speaker 3>And this person is wondering should she just play into

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<v Speaker 3>this game right? Or I guess not playing this game?

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<v Speaker 3>I think those are the two options. Or I guess

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<v Speaker 3>you could confront the therapists and say I need you

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<v Speaker 3>to stop thinking trying to turn my life into a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, therapy is expensive. Therapy is very expensive.

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<v Speaker 4>It's expensive, hard to find, hard to find, and especially

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<v Speaker 4>like yeah, like clicking with someone that you want to

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<v Speaker 4>keep going back to and being like, here's what's going on,

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<v Speaker 4>here's my you know, here's my stuff, here's my story,

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<v Speaker 4>here's da da da that. Like if you're if you

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<v Speaker 4>feel like you're getting something out of it, like really

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<v Speaker 4>getting some thing out of it, then like maybe try

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<v Speaker 4>to see it through.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess like that's fine. Maybe I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's weird to like bring in your outside

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<v Speaker 4>interests as a therapist into your like sessions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've never known about a therapist's anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like maybe the most is that like they have

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<v Speaker 4>kids or something like right or right they used to

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<v Speaker 4>live in this other city, right, you know, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>totally get if like a therapist is like here's a story,

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<v Speaker 4>an anecdote or something to relate to what you're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about or your situation, like briefly like here's this blah

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah. The lesson is this, and I'm like Okay, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know totally, but yeah, I really don't like that

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<v Speaker 4>vibe of like you've got such interesting stories. So tell

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<v Speaker 4>me more. What else happened when you were when you

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<v Speaker 4>were in art school?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait? Can you tell me again?

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<v Speaker 4>So what happened in art school when you you were

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<v Speaker 4>going through that breakup and that you moved to that

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<v Speaker 4>new city and you and your mom did what like

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<v Speaker 4>what happened was I'm just kind of like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know that that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think will I don't know, maybe maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Confront confront Have you ever confronted a therapist?

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, the last therapist I saw, I remember one time

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<v Speaker 4>I told him that I was just in a stream

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<v Speaker 4>of consciousness just like talking, and I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>trying to impress you, right or whatever, because it's more

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<v Speaker 4>of like in my mind, you're like some authority figure

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<v Speaker 4>or something even like in a sexual.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense, right, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I like remember like saying that to him, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was kind of like, Okay, then continue and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just like kept going and he was really

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<v Speaker 4>chill about it. I don't I know, it kind of

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<v Speaker 4>blocked out like what his response was, but he had

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<v Speaker 4>a little more understanding of like.

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<v Speaker 2>My vibe at that time, But that was probably like

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<v Speaker 2>a break through.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you're like, now I've been so honest that, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm like, I can, I can, Like I might

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<v Speaker 3>still be trying to impress, but at least there's some transparency,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of an ever lain level of transparency. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's probably natural for a lot of therapy, right,

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<v Speaker 3>where like, yeah, for the first while, you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell them.

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<v Speaker 2>Four percent of what's real.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then so you're just paying someone money to

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<v Speaker 3>impress them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's been a lot of my therapy

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<v Speaker 3>actually just never really breaking down and actually revealing. But

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<v Speaker 3>this person has revealed so much, so much that their

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<v Speaker 3>therapist has revealed so much. We know about the therapist's.

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<v Speaker 2>Sole job job. We shouldn't be doing. We shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and this is a huge mistake on the therapist's part,

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<v Speaker 3>to be honest. If they want to do write this

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<v Speaker 3>to steal this person's stories, they should have just shut up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>don't tell Molly, don't take the notes, write the movie right,

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<v Speaker 3>and then once it's on the big screen, deal with

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<v Speaker 3>the court battle or whatever. But by then you'll have

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<v Speaker 3>made enough money to sue Molly into the ground, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of gaslight Molly into thinking, this isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Your story, isn't your story, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>These are things I told you and our therapy sessions.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I'm we're actually reaching out to the therapist at

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<v Speaker 3>this point. And I think it's really a matter of

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<v Speaker 3>telling Molly that you can't see her anymore, destroy the records,

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<v Speaker 3>and then write the movie and Mollie, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not my problem. We answered the question perfectly, Richard.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had such a nice time, fabulous. I love to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about bakery cafes. I could talk about them for weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for being here. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>having me listener. The podcast is just over it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's there's nothing left to say. I love you, goodbye,

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<v Speaker 3>I said. No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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<v Speaker 3>produced by our dear friend Annalise Nelson, and it's beautifully

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<v Speaker 3>mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without

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<v Speaker 3>our guest booker, Patrick Coottner. The theme song, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>could only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must

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<v Speaker 3>follow the show on Instagram at I said, no gifts.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you

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<v Speaker 3>get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 3>And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?

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<v Speaker 2>THEO invit? Did you hear?

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<v Speaker 1>Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests,

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<v Speaker 1>your presences presents enough. I'm already too much stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you dare to survey me?

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<v Speaker 1>The game bet