WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Demon Knight

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob and I'm Joe, and today we are

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<v Speaker 3>going to unscramble the cable signal and tune into some

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<v Speaker 3>Tales from the Crypt.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Yeah, we have another slice of nineties genre

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<v Speaker 2>cinema for you this week. Except this one's far cheaper

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<v Speaker 2>than Free Jack. I think, ultimately a more enjoyable film,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is, of course the initial cinematic spinoff of

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<v Speaker 2>HBO's Tales from the Crypt. It is Taiales from the Crypt,

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<v Speaker 2>Demon Knight from what nineteen ninety five?

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds right, Yeah, it looks very mid nineties. So

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<v Speaker 3>I guess this one and last week's are a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more mainstream than we usually go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they're more mainstream. But Demon Night is also one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Freejack is definitely a film that it did

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<v Speaker 2>not perform to expectation and was kind of just thrown

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<v Speaker 2>out there and died and was forgotten by many. Demon

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<v Speaker 2>Night is a film that I think also is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about this before we started recording, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little underappreciated, though it certainly has its following

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<v Speaker 2>and oh yeah, and you know, continues to be popular

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<v Speaker 2>to this day. But you don't hear it championed that

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<v Speaker 2>often as being like a great piece of horror horror

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<v Speaker 2>comedy from the nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's hard to argue that it's great, but

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<v Speaker 3>it is really fun. This is a really fun, r rated,

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<v Speaker 3>frisky piece of horror comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's It's essentially a siege movie. So the basic

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<v Speaker 2>structure is pretty pretty nailed down, you know, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have characters go somewhere, they're gonna hold up there,

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<v Speaker 2>and then things are gonna try and get in and

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<v Speaker 2>get them. It's the basic Night of the Living Dead scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's Night of the Living Dead, evil Dead assault

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<v Speaker 3>on Precinct thirteen, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so well, let's just jump right into the elevator

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<v Speaker 2>pitch on this one just now. This is the elevator

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<v Speaker 2>pitch for the basic movie itself. The Unholy Demon Lords

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<v Speaker 2>have six of the seven keys they need to drag

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<v Speaker 2>the universe back into darkness, and the only thing standing

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<v Speaker 2>in their way on Planet Earth for that last key

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<v Speaker 2>is one immortal drifter and a ragtag bunch of losers.

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<v Speaker 2>In a rundown hotel in the middle of the desert.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, in a place called Wormwood, New Mexico. I

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<v Speaker 3>looked it up. Not a real place.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds nice and biblical, though, which is good because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of biblical nonsense going on in this

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<v Speaker 2>particular movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this movie is just jammed with drifters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's all it's basically all drifters. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've actually seen it discussed in the sense that

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the meek shall inherit the earth, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is the meek. These are all the sorts of losers

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<v Speaker 2>that Jesus Christ himself would have hung out with in life.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe not Thomas Hayden Church. He's not that meek, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's a scumbag in this So yeah, that's true. So

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<v Speaker 3>the Pharisees come to Jesus and they say, hey, you

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<v Speaker 3>sit down to eat with the sinners and tax collectors

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<v Speaker 3>and even with Thomas Hayden Church.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, let's go ahead, have just a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of the trailer audio here, and there's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a little criptkeeper in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Universal Pictures is proud to present the Motion picture Directing

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<v Speaker 1>debut of.

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<v Speaker 4>One of America's most talented and respected artists.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot Cat.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh hello kitties, So glad you could join me? Your pal.

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<v Speaker 4>The Cryptkeeper has gone Hollywood in a big way. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>directing my first feature film, Care for a Little Shriek preview.

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<v Speaker 3>My Big Scream premiere.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted lots of suspecse, special effects, sex, the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of thing you could really sink your teeth into, frights,

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<v Speaker 4>camera and ladies if you think demon nice gross and yucke.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right? So yeah, basically the idea here, but the

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<v Speaker 2>whole Tales from the Crypt thing is, you know, Tales

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<v Speaker 2>from the Crypt was like the show on HBO back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, and we've talked about it on the

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<v Speaker 2>show before here on like some of our horror anthology

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<v Speaker 2>specials around Halloween. You know, it's basically it's based on

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<v Speaker 2>the old horror comics, and each little story in the

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<v Speaker 2>horror comic would be about some horrible person getting their

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<v Speaker 2>come uppance, and so each episode of Tales from the

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<v Speaker 2>Crypt generally revolves around that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah to me, the opening theme music of Tales from

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<v Speaker 3>the Crypt, I think it's composed by Danny Elfman. It

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<v Speaker 3>just sounds like the nineties, and it sounds like being

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<v Speaker 3>a kid in the nineties trying to watch stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>you're not allowed to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's like it's the.

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<v Speaker 3>Sound of I think we may have made this comparison before,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's the sound of a scrambled cable channel that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't get that shows are rated depravity all night

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<v Speaker 3>and every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it really does. And I guess one of

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<v Speaker 2>the interesting things about this is, like you can imagine

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<v Speaker 2>the studios came in there, some folks behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 2>were like, Hey, this show's really successful, we should do

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<v Speaker 2>a movie. The thing is, Tales from the Crypt doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really lend itself well to that kind of format, unless

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to do an anthology film with just a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of little stories, much like the original Tales from

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<v Speaker 2>the Crypt film, the nineteen seventy two anthology picture from Amicus.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't think I even knew that existed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it has the Cryptkeeper in it, but the Cryptkeeper

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<v Speaker 2>is played by Sir Ralph in like a hood.

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<v Speaker 3>That's nice. Yeah, But so, as you mentioned, the standard

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<v Speaker 3>format of a Tales from the Crypt episode, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's some variation but the most common format is that

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<v Speaker 3>you have basically a sleazy salad of gratuitous gore and

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<v Speaker 3>nudity in which a morally bankrupt person does something evil,

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<v Speaker 3>they think they're going to get away with it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they get their just desserts via the vengeful wrath

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<v Speaker 3>of a monster, demon, ancient curse, haunted scarecrow, chainsaw freak

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's in a way, it's it's like horror in

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<v Speaker 2>a very simple form, fulfilling a societal need. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we need the villains in our world, in our life

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<v Speaker 2>to suffer, and these little stories provide that suffering along

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<v Speaker 2>with some you know, gratuitous violence, maybe a little nudity

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<v Speaker 2>in maybe a few laughs as well. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>gallows humor finds its way into these episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>And lot of puns. I mean, the crypt Keeper loves

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<v Speaker 3>to make death related puns.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, because, of course, the big thing about the

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<v Speaker 2>HBO series is hosted by the crypt Keeper, this wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>puppetry creation of a reanimated corpse that just gleefully takes

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<v Speaker 2>you on this journey to hear all of these tales.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who the crypt Keeper is, It's the preserved

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<v Speaker 3>remains of Jeremy Bentham. I couldn't stop thinking about that

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<v Speaker 3>this time. I mean, like God, that rotten looking head.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost perfectly the crypt Keeper.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's start with the Cryptkeeper. Talking about people involved

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<v Speaker 2>in this one. The Cryptkeeper's voice is, of course John

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<v Speaker 2>Casser born in nineteen fifty seven. He's a longtime actor

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<v Speaker 2>and voice actor, but he's most well known as the

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<v Speaker 2>voice of the Cryptkeeper from Tales from the Crypt on

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<v Speaker 2>HBO from eighty nine through ninety six, as well as

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<v Speaker 2>the cartoon Tales from the Crypt Keeper nineteen ninety three

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<v Speaker 2>through nineteen ninety nine three Tales from the Crypt movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Will get a touch on that in a bit, but basically,

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<v Speaker 2>just with the crypt Keeper, we have a great voice

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<v Speaker 2>coming together with an amazing puppet, at least for most appearances,

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<v Speaker 2>and all this based on one of the EC comics

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<v Speaker 2>horror hosts. You know. Other hosts included things like the

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<v Speaker 2>Vault Keeper and the Old Witch.

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<v Speaker 3>But those were just in the comic right, They were

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<v Speaker 3>not on the TV series.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. Though. Occasionally the crypt Keeper has

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<v Speaker 2>a guest that's not a corpse in those little segments,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll touch on some of those examples as we

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<v Speaker 2>go here. But of course in this movie Tales from

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<v Speaker 2>the Crypt Demon Night, the crypt Keeper is just there

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<v Speaker 2>to set things up to say, hey, we can hear

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<v Speaker 2>it is for you a movie. And the movie itself

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty self contained. It has a few nods to

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<v Speaker 2>Tails from the Crypt within it, but still you could

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<v Speaker 2>watch it on its own, without the intro or the

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<v Speaker 2>outro and you'd get it. So I guess the first

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<v Speaker 2>person we should talk about is the director. This was

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<v Speaker 2>directed by Ernest Dickerson. Dickerson was born in nineteen fifty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was a classmate of Spike Lee at the

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<v Speaker 2>Tisch School of the Arts, and so he went on

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<v Speaker 2>to work as a frequent collaborator with Spike Lee as

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<v Speaker 2>a cinematographer on various Spike Lee joints including School Days,

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<v Speaker 2>Do the Right Thing, Mo Beetter, Blues, Jungle Fever, and

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<v Speaker 2>Malcolm X. He also worked as a cinematographer on films

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<v Speaker 2>from John Salis, the film Brother from Another Planet, and

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Demi, and more recently you might have noticed his

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<v Speaker 2>name as a director on a number of TV projects,

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<v Speaker 2>including multiple episodes of The Walking Dead, Tremay The Wire.

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<v Speaker 2>He seems like one of those TV directors that just

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<v Speaker 2>works all the time, and he's also done a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of work in the horror genre. He was a cinematographer

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<v Speaker 2>on the TV series Tales from the Dark Side, an

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<v Speaker 2>anthology series, and while Demon Knight was his first horror

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<v Speaker 2>or sci fi film as a director, he went on

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<v Speaker 2>to direct nineteen ninety eight's Future Sport, which looks interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and the two thousand and one Snoop Dogg ghost movie Bones,

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<v Speaker 2>which I haven't seen, but I was reading a little

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<v Speaker 2>about in it. It seems like it has its following,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe it's worth trying out. Yeah, Okay, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's Snoop is always entertaining. Yeah. So Demon Night, though,

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<v Speaker 2>follows up on Dickerson's nineteen ninety two film Juice, which

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<v Speaker 2>starred Tupac Shakur, and also the exquisite nineteen ninety four

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<v Speaker 2>film Surviving the Game. Do you remember this one, Joe, Of.

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<v Speaker 3>Course I do. Surviving the I don't think Surviving the

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<v Speaker 3>Game is as good as Demon Knight, as comparing Dickerson's

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<v Speaker 3>violent thrillers here Surviving, But one thing that is great

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<v Speaker 3>about Surviving the Game. Basically, it's an adaptation of the

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<v Speaker 3>short story The Most Dangerous Game about a group about

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<v Speaker 3>like a rich guy on an island who hunts human

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<v Speaker 3>beings for sport. This adapts that to the modern world,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a movie about a character named Mason played

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<v Speaker 3>by iced T, who is like homeless and depressed, and

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<v Speaker 3>he gets offered a job by a guy who he

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<v Speaker 3>meets somewhere I think maybe at a like a like

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<v Speaker 3>a place where they're feeding the homeless, and he gets

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<v Speaker 3>recruited for this job to be a wilderness guide for

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of rich dudes played by people like Rutger Howard,

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<v Speaker 3>Charles Stutton, Gary Busey, f Murray Abraham, John C. McGinley.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a real powerhouse cast, like every person who

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<v Speaker 3>could have played like, you know, the cocaine king of

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<v Speaker 3>the Week in an eighties crime movie. They're one of these,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the party of the hunters in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>And then of course the twist is once they get

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<v Speaker 3>out in the woods, they tell iced T Okay, well

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna hunt you now, but iced T outsmarts them all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I remember catching this one on cable, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember finding it irresistible, just drawn right.

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<v Speaker 3>Int Yeah, And I gotta say Iced Tea has a

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<v Speaker 3>very weird charm in this movie. It's hard to describe

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what it is, but he plays a He plays

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<v Speaker 3>a very rude and sympathetic protagonist as he's like chugging

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<v Speaker 3>along through the forest while they're chasing him on ATVs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, so it's some notable films from Dickerson there. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>coming back to Demon Night, there's a there's an excellent

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<v Speaker 2>Shout Factory slash Screen Factory Blu ray of this film

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<v Speaker 2>that came out, and that's that's what I watched for this.

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<v Speaker 2>But it also includes some some really cool features, including

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<v Speaker 2>interviews with Dickerson among others, and one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that came out of it, aside from him just being

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<v Speaker 2>really chill and apparently easy to work with and open

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the lunier ideas that the actors brought

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<v Speaker 2>to the table, he was also a major force behind

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<v Speaker 2>having a more diverse cast on this film, including the

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<v Speaker 2>casting of African American actors Jada Pinkett, C. C. H. Pounder,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mark David Kinnerley who plays a very small part

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<v Speaker 2>towards the end, but also presumably First Nations actor Gary

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<v Speaker 2>Farmer who will touch on here in a bit. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth noticing that even our secondary minority characters in

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<v Speaker 2>this film survive quite far into the picture, right.

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<v Speaker 3>The cliche long being that in many horror movies it

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<v Speaker 3>is and for the cast to be all white except

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<v Speaker 3>for one black character, and the black guy dies first.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So yeah, it seems that having a black director

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<v Speaker 2>at at the front of this thing really helped out

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<v Speaker 2>in that regard. For instance, the main character, the character

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<v Speaker 2>the Jada Pinkett plays, you know, Jada Pinkett Smith plays

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<v Speaker 2>in this like that was I think the studio wanted

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<v Speaker 2>I forget which actor, but they wanted a white female

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<v Speaker 2>actor for the role, and he insisted on this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a better film for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the screenwriters on this were Ethan Rife, Cyrus Voris,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mark Bishop, so that this trio. They had written

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<v Speaker 2>a post apocalyptic movie called Escape from Saithe Haven in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty eight and that was directed by Bishop, and

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<v Speaker 2>Bishop didn't seem to go on to do much else

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<v Speaker 2>in film, but Rife and Voris went on to do

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<v Speaker 2>quite a lot, including two thousand and eight Kung Fu Panda.

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<v Speaker 2>They wrote that and you'll find their names attached to

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<v Speaker 2>anything involving Kung Fu Panda. They also twenty ten's Robinhood

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<v Speaker 2>that's the Ridley Scott version starring Russell Crowe.

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<v Speaker 3>M I didn't never saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, and Demon Night was apparently a spec script

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<v Speaker 2>that they had out there and people were excited about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it got picked up by this Tales from the

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<v Speaker 2>Crypt trilogy idea, like they were. The basic idea is like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do three Tales from the Crypt films. We'll find

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<v Speaker 2>the screenplays and we'll we'll just you know, put to

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<v Speaker 2>some crypt keeper at the beginning, some crypt Keeper at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, and he got yourself a franchise.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, unfortunately, being a feature film instead of being made

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<v Speaker 3>for TV, it does not have commercial breaks for the

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<v Speaker 3>crypt Keeper to come in in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 3>movie and comment about what's currently going on in the story.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just at the beginning and the end. But even

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<v Speaker 3>with only the beginning and the end of Brackets, the

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<v Speaker 3>crypt Keeper is a very welcome presence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Now, apparently I was watching some of the making

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<v Speaker 2>of and apparently there was some push and pull on

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of like what the movie itself was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be. The screenwriters really thought, this is more of

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<v Speaker 2>a hero movie, This is about a hero's journey, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>And then everyone else was like, well, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>monster movie. It needs to be a monster movie. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Tales from the Crypt. And then, you know, ultimately it

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to what we said earlier, like this is

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<v Speaker 2>not a come upance film. It's not a film about

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible person getting their come upance. It ends up

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<v Speaker 2>really being more of a hero's journey kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>story with monsters, but with the Tales from the Crypt branding.

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<v Speaker 3>But also, I mean, I think Dickerson handles it exactly

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<v Speaker 3>right in that it is not overly serious in any way,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it is a very loose, fun, frisky movie that

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<v Speaker 3>does not ever stop to take itself too seriously. And

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<v Speaker 3>the scenes that do get kind of serious addressing, like

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, the recurring hero motif or whatever, those

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<v Speaker 3>are brief enough to be kind of welcome, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it quickly gets back to goofy gory jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, Well, let's start talking about some of these

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<v Speaker 2>heroes again. Jada Pinkett, who would become Jada Pinkett Smith

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<v Speaker 2>later on Sheep Hero and this is jerry Lyne Jerry Lynn,

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<v Speaker 2>like Jerline Jerrelene. It's one of those where I got

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<v Speaker 2>prepared for it to be pronounced a certain way and

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<v Speaker 2>then it was not in the film.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually, I think different characters in the movie pronounce

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<v Speaker 3>her name different and you might say, hey, that's not consistent,

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<v Speaker 3>But then hey, have you ever known somebody whose name

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<v Speaker 3>as written could be pronounced different ways? People pronounce it

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<v Speaker 3>different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we're going with Jerline Jerlene. Okay, jery Lene.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try and be consistent. I may just say

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<v Speaker 2>Jada Pinkett anyway. Yep, she's in this. She had not

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<v Speaker 2>yet married Will Smith, but she was on the rise here.

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<v Speaker 2>She was coming off of the Hughes Brothers Minace to

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<v Speaker 2>Society as well as Jason's Lyric, and she would apparently

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<v Speaker 2>go on to like really break out in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>six is the Nutty Professor. Then she was in Scream two,

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<v Speaker 2>the Matrix sequels, just to name a few.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that she's going to be in the upcoming

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<v Speaker 3>new Matrix movie, so I forget who her character is,

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<v Speaker 3>but whoever she is, she must survive the third film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Now, let's see this is not a hero. This

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<v Speaker 2>is our main antagonist in the film, but we have

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<v Speaker 2>Billy Zaine as the collector.

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<v Speaker 3>Billy Zaine is just wonderful in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>He is he's I mean, Zayin has a very punishable

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<v Speaker 2>face and a lot of roles and oh he's so

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<v Speaker 2>punishable in this he's he he just he hams it

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<v Speaker 2>up so much like he's great playing like a smug,

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<v Speaker 2>privileged sob and in so many other films, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>especially Titanic comes to mind, but yeah, he's he's like

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<v Speaker 2>a Looney Tunes character in this in all the right ways,

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<v Speaker 2>with the in the appropriate in the appropriate ways. He

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<v Speaker 2>is just like a cartoon character.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, you included a detail that he I think

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<v Speaker 3>revealed in one of the making of features. You said

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<v Speaker 3>you were watching that once. Once I read it, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh my god, that's absolutely right, the one

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<v Speaker 3>about Aladdin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Yeah, he says that he approached the role like

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<v Speaker 2>he was playing the genie from Alatin, except evil, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you see it in everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's exactly what he's doing. He's almost Robin Williams, but

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit less manic and more smooth, but smooth

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<v Speaker 3>in a very sinister and silly way. He's perfect in

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<v Speaker 3>this role.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is this is apparently one of his favorite

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<v Speaker 2>roles that he did, and yeah, he really shines in it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, no matter what your opinion is of Zain

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<v Speaker 2>in general, you know, he's been in some real some

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<v Speaker 2>real stinkers for sure, but yeah, this says just the

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<v Speaker 2>right amount of Billy Zay. And oh and this was

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<v Speaker 2>fun too. This was revealed on one of the featurettes.

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<v Speaker 2>This was apparently Zay's first film without a hair piece. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, apparently he came in to meet Dickerson and

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<v Speaker 2>he brought in like a little suitcase and he opened

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<v Speaker 2>it up, uh, and he was completely bald, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shoes and shaved down, and he showed him the hair pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, which one do you want me to wear

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<v Speaker 2>for the film? And Dickerson's like, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>like what you've got going on there, And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is bald right? Which yes, yeah, yeah, his bald head

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<v Speaker 3>is exquisite. And I wonder if that inspired the scenes

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<v Speaker 3>in the film where he's carrying around a suitcase or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that was part of the script anyway, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>so we should say that. In the movie, we said

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<v Speaker 3>he's the villain, but he is the titular demon Knight.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a hell beast who's a kind of smooth

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<v Speaker 3>talking prints of the infernal realms, who wants to do

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of apocalyptic magic, and it involves him frequently

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<v Speaker 3>getting out a suitcase and asking people to put a

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<v Speaker 3>thing inside it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, yeah, So he does have a suitcase around,

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<v Speaker 2>so presumably a very similar suitcase that held his many

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<v Speaker 2>different hairs.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, you've got a lot of films listed as Billy's

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<v Speaker 3>An credits that almost none of which I had any

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<v Speaker 3>idea Billy z An was in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he was in nineteen eighty five's Back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Future.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in nineteen eighty six's Critters. I had no

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<v Speaker 2>clue on that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he really stood out. I guess one of

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<v Speaker 2>the early roles where he really stood out would be

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighty nine thriller Dead Calm alongside Sam Neil

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<v Speaker 2>and Nicole Kidman. And he's he's quite good in that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's good. It's a really good, solid thriller.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh? Was that the one where he plays like

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<v Speaker 3>a he's like an evil guy on a boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, it's a thriller.

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<v Speaker 3>That's probably oversimplifying it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah yeah, I mean I haven't seen it in forever,

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<v Speaker 2>but I remember it as being quite good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you take the end of Cape Fear and

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<v Speaker 3>make it a whole movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I guess so, yeah, Zay And of course

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of TV work as well. He was

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<v Speaker 2>on Twin Peaks, he was in the film Tombstone, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course we can't forget his starring role in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety six is The Phantom, because there was that whole

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<v Speaker 2>period in the nineties when Hollywood decided that old timey

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<v Speaker 2>characters like Dick Tracy and the Shadow were the next

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<v Speaker 2>big thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, and that was a weird time. I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of wait, So was the Phantom an old property that

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<v Speaker 3>was being revived or was it a new property in

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<v Speaker 3>the style of the old adventure serials?

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:04.840
<v Speaker 2>The Phantom was an old character?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh okay, yeah, I know the Shadow was. Didn't

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<v Speaker 3>Alec Baldwin play the Shadow and the Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah that one. I do not remember that one

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<v Speaker 2>as being good, but it had Alec Baldwin and it

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<v Speaker 2>was directed by Russell McKay. So I'm sure if I

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<v Speaker 2>were to watch it again, I would I would find

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<v Speaker 2>some some lovable, weird things in it. But I don't know, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there are other Maquay films I would rather see.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. I know you have unspeakable love for Dick Tracy.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to talk about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Well, I wouldn't say it's unspeakable love because I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen it since I was a kid. But it

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<v Speaker 2>it was one that was not as good as anticipated, perhaps,

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<v Speaker 2>But it had such weird mobsters in it, Like all

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<v Speaker 2>the mobsters, you know, in a way they're they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to create the kind of the like rough charactertures of

0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.600
<v Speaker 2>the of the of the Gold comic, and in doing

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<v Speaker 2>so they created these monstrous, mutant gangsters that were just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're resistible, and also just so weird, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's so weird that the movies filled with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't there one called Little Face who had a huge

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<v Speaker 3>head with a little face in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there was Flat Top, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was one called No Face who didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have a face.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one called the Brow with just this enormous, grotesque

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.920
<v Speaker 2>brow Like, it's just tons of those type characters, most

0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>of which they did nothing with. Most of them are

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 2>just I think like they have like a good dozen

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<v Speaker 2>of them that they kill in one scene just in passing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they just have like the Star Wars canteena scene

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<v Speaker 3>but it's mutant mobsters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I feel like that kind of ruined me

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<v Speaker 2>for traditional gangster films to a certain extent, because you're like, oh, well,

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, Godfather's good, but he didn't have any mutants

0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:43.960
<v Speaker 2>in it. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the Godfather.

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<v Speaker 2>God Godfather is good, but yeah, but I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>see mutant gangsters come back. I feel like that's the

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<v Speaker 2>that's the takeaway from Dick Tracy.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, a little bit more boiling acid version of

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<v Speaker 3>The Godfather.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right. We said that there was an immortal drifter

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:03.880
<v Speaker 2>in this, and there is the character breaker played by

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the always excellent William Sadler.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Man, William Sadler, he's got one of those faces, right,

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<v Speaker 3>That's just he has an inherently evil looking face, which

0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.040
<v Speaker 3>makes me assume that in reality he must be a

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<v Speaker 3>nice guy, because I recall there being a bit about

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<v Speaker 3>this in the novel Around the World in Eighty Days,

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 3>which I haven't read since I was a kid, but

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<v Speaker 3>I remember there's a part where a police detective is

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<v Speaker 3>talking about how people who have criminal looking faces have

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<v Speaker 3>no choice but to be honest, because you know, everybody

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 3>looks at them and suspects they're a criminal. It's only

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 3>people who look very trustworthy who can really get away

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:45.200
<v Speaker 3>with great crime. So I don't know for sure, but yeah, Sadler,

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 3>he just has that face where he looks like a

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 3>devil person. And there are other people like this who

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 3>just kind of naturally look like a cartoon devil, like

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Malcolm McDowell kind of looks like a cartoon devil. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a Prosperity Gospel TV preacher Mike Murdoch who just looks

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:02.919
<v Speaker 3>like a cartoon demon.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Sadler, Yeah, he definitely has that sort of face.

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 2>He's played a fairly fairly diverse amount of roles. I

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know, he does tend to sort of play your

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 2>rougher characters. He's he's played villains of differing varieties, Like

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 2>he's definitely played the the suit wearing villain, but he's

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.639
<v Speaker 2>also played the you know, the sort of you know

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>dirt kicker kind of a villain as well.

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:28.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for instance, he's he might be best known for

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>his role as the Seventh Seal inspired death in the

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Bill and Ted movie.

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, the Reaper. Yeah, they melvin him yep.

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 2>And and also, interestingly enough, his rendition of that character

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 2>shows up on Tails from the Crypt at one point

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 2>in the Crypt Keeper sequence where he's like playing a

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 2>game of chess with the Cripkeeper or something. But he

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>was in Shashankrediction, he was in the Second Diehard movie.

0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's the guy. He's like the new martial arts Kernel.

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 3>I remember he's in the hotel room doing like naked

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 3>yoga or something, and then he I think at some

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 3>point he like punches out a TV screen.

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 2>He he was on Tails from the Crypt. He appeared

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 2>in in what I believe was the pilot episode The

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Man Who Was Death, And he also played the host

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 2>of a Tale from the Crypt spinoff, the title of

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the Two Fisted Tales. This apparently wasn't picked up. They

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 2>ended up just using the three episodes. I think that

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 2>they shot using them as Tales from the Crypt episodes.

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>But he had this whole persona of mister rush a

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 2>crazy old cowboy in a wheelchair and if you look

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 2>it up on YouTube you can find clips of it.

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like he's just completely over the top in the role,

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:42.919
<v Speaker 2>as one should be.

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Williams. Saddler is always like a high tension cable,

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, He's like one of those like steel cables

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 3>that a tram car rides along.

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but yeah. Throughout his career he's played very

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 2>serious characters and he's played just yeah, real live wires.

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>He seemed to have a tremendous amount of range there,

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>but you don't see him, I guess, playing the hero

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 2>as much in this in this one.

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Because he's got an evil looking face.

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but it works here because he's supposed to be.

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 2>He's a I mean, he's a guy on the very

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<v Speaker 2>you know, margins of law and society.

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<v Speaker 3>M yeah, all right.

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Some of the rest of the cast here. C. C. H.

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Pounder we already mentioned. She plays a character, Irene. She's

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.199
<v Speaker 2>a She's a talented actor, probably best known for her

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 2>role on the Shield. She was in Avatar, she was

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 2>in RoboCop three, and a lot of TV work.

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 3>I think she does one of those big crime TV shows.

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 3>Now didn't she like in CIS or something.

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 2>I think so, yeah, she That's the sort of show

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 2>that she seemed to get a lot of work on. Now,

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 2>another character actor in this is somebody who recognized from

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:45.919
<v Speaker 2>previous episodes of a Weird House, and that is Dick Miller,

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 2>who plays Uncle Willie. That's right, Yeah, I would say this,

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 2>whatever you expect of a Dick Miller character, you will

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 2>get it from this film. He's not really playing against

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>type or anything, but it's a substantial role. And I

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 2>found out on the special features for this one this

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 2>was his first time in his entire career in which

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>he wore a prosthetic makeup.

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, I assume this is for the part where

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 3>he turns into a demon, not for his regular regular appearance,

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 3>because here he is, like you say, playing perfectly to type.

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 3>He is just a whiskey guzzling drifter.

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 3>And there's some great drifter to drifter relations between him

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 3>and William Sadler.

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they have. They have some good scenes. Apparently,

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 2>like Dick Miller was, you know, in all these old

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 2>older films, He's Corman films and all. So apparently the

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 2>effects guys and Dickerson himself, they were just super thrilled

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 2>to have Dick Miller on the picture because you know,

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 2>this is a guy who was in all those old

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>films that they grew up watching. So that's pretty much.

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Was you a vacuum salesman in a movie I saw

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 3>when I was a kid. Yeah, and you get taken

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 3>down to the furnace by by the Marlborough man.

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I've seen you die so many times, how

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>about one more time? Let's see Thomas Aiden Church is

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 2>in this plays a character named Roach. Kind of Church

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 2>is kind of like a younger handsomer William Sadler in

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 2>some ways.

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in this movie. So he plays this swaggering creep,

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 3>but with a swaggering creep with a luxurious like Jethro

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 3>tull Roady hair, and he's also wearing a Trent Reznor

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 3>style see through T shirt.

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, he's He's absolutely hateable in this role in

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>all the right ways. Like he really really makes you

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 2>hate this character. This was only his third film role though.

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he'd go on to I mean he was I

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>think he'd already been on the show Wings and that's

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>what he was mainly known for. But he went on

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>of course being Sideways and Spider Man three.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Now the movie, of course, like any good horror movie,

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 3>especially any good horror movie from the nineties, has its

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 3>share of useless cops.

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we have two useless cops in this, one

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>of which dies pretty soon. The other is the deputy

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>deputy Bob Martel, that survives very long into the film.

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 2>And this is played by character actor Gary Farmer. And

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.479
<v Speaker 2>here is your absolutely solid Overdrawn in the Memory Bank connection,

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>because he was in over Drawn in the Memory Bank.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Really I didn't know that.

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that, of course was a nineteen eighty three

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>American playhouse rendition of over Drawn in the Memory Bank

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 2>that starred Rawle Julia And he just has a small,

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>ultimately kind of awkward role in it. But he went

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 2>on to be in a ton more stuff. So he

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 2>was born in fifty three. He's a Canadian First Nations actor.

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 2>And let's see something like, for instance, he went on

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>to be in Dead Man the Western with the Johnny J.

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Jarmusch movie, Yeah yeah.

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>And then also in his film Ghost Dog Way of

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 2>the Samurai. He actually plays the same character in those

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 2>two films. He plays his character named Nobody. Okay, Yeah,

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>And he was also apparently under consideration for the role

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 2>of doctor Gonzo in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>but that didn't come together for some reason.

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that ultimately went to what's his name, Benicio del Toro, Yes,

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Benicccio del Toro.

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh you know what, Actually I should go back on

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 3>what I said earlier, because I said that this movie

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.959
<v Speaker 3>has useless cops, and it is a very reliable trope

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 3>of horror movies, especially like horror movies of the nineties.

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 3>But it's it's pretty much always there that you can

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 3>just count on cops to not be useful in them,

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, like you run up. You never have the

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 3>scene where you run up to a cop and say

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 3>there's a monster chasing us and they whip out their

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 3>gun and say where get behind me. No, it's always like, oh,

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 3>calm down, missy, and then there's just like a claw

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 3>sticking through their face or something. But in this movie,

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Gary Farmer's deputy Bob, he actually he becomes more useful

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 3>as the movie goes on than is actually kind of

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 3>heroic by the end.

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, even though he you know, as a character actor,

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 2>he has this kind of like bumbling quality to him.

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, it plays well to comedy, and he does

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 2>some good comedy in this. But yeah, he also they

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 2>do more with the character than just have him fumble

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 2>a gun and get killed by a monster. All right.

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Another interesting character we have in this is Charles Fleischer,

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>who plays his character Wally. I think this is a character.

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.479
<v Speaker 2>A lot of you may not recognize his name. Some

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 2>of you may not even recognize a picture of him,

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 2>but you would recognize his voice, at least one voice

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that he does because he was the voice of Roger Rabbit.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 2>And outside of that, he often plays weirdos. He has

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>a real kind of like weirdo look to him. You know,

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 2>he plays that kind of character. Well, he doesn't disappoint

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 2>in this film. He plays another weirdo.

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 3>He plays a very awkward guy in yeah movie.

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 2>But I've seen him in a number of things. He

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 2>had a fun role recurring role on Jonathan Ames TV

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>series Blunt Talk. So he's always a treat when he

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 2>shows up. But it doesn't seem he doesn't show up

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot in things I watch.

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 3>Now. We know that Ernest Dickerson was himself cinematographer on

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of other movies, so he's directing here. Who

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 3>does the cinematography.

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>One Rick Boda or Bata Bota, who went on to

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 2>direct not one, not two, but three direct to video

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Hell Raiser sequels Ride in a Row, Hell Seeker, Debtor,

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>and Hell World.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 3>I believe that's gonna be your numbers six, seven, and

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 3>eight in the Hell Raiser series. I would say that

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 3>is not a high point of the series. But it's

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 3>weird because so those are not very good Hell Raiser movies.

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 3>But I like his cinematography style in the movie. It's nothing,

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's nothing all that artistic, but it's very fluid.

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like it's good in the sense that it's

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 3>the kind of good filmmaking that don't you're not thinking

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 3>about technique.

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And it has some some nice use of

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 2>gels in places that they kind of give it that

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 2>tales from the crypt vibe without like overdoing it right.

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Like you see a similar thing done in what was

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Stephen king Creep Show, where it was also an homage

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>to horror comics of old, But there are scenes in

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>that where they just go crazy with the gels to

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>create these kind of comic book colors, and so there's

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 2>a little lot of it in here, but it feels

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot a lot more restrained.

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 3>So Hell World is the Evil Dead or not Evil

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Dead the I've totally forgotten what it's called hell Raiser

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 3>hell hell World is the hell Raiser movie where the

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 3>tagline is evil goes Online. Oh man, it's the one

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 3>where they go to So I think it's supposed to

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 3>be that the Pinhead is in a computer or something,

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 3>but then nobody ever really goes online in the movie.

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 3>I was talking to my friend Chuck about this not

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 3>too long ago. He pointed out that it's really a

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>very offline movie. It's about a party. People go to

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 3>a big party at somebody's house and Pinhead starts killing him.

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. Well, yeah, I never saw any of those,

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 2>those these three hell Raiser films in particular, but they

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>all had Doug Bradley and then at least a little bit,

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:54.719
<v Speaker 2>so they have that going for him.

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 3>I guess Hell World also has Lance Hendrickson.

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, Oh, I think I read about that

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>where they were able they were able to get him

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 2>for the role because he happened to be in I

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 2>want to say, these were filmed in Romania, and he

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>was in Romania already filming some other role and they're like, hey,

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 2>we can get Lance Henderson. He's got another day or

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 2>two on his hotel room.

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.240
<v Speaker 3>And they did it perfect serendipity.

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Now, we mentioned that the cinematography of the movie is

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 3>quite effective. It's nothing too flashy, but it's fun and

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.399
<v Speaker 3>it's loose and it's very fluid and you're just right

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.280
<v Speaker 3>in there in the action. I would say the same

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 3>thing for the makeup effects in the movie, which are

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 3>quite good.

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, the makeup and the monsters in this are great.

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 2>And we have the Todd Masters Company to think for this.

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 2>They did all the special makeup on the picture. They

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 2>did the monsters, and Masters was ideal for this because

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 2>he was a Tales from the Crypt veteran already at

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 2>that point, and he's done a lot of film and

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 2>TV work, and he did a great job on the

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 2>monsters in this film as well, from like a just

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 2>from like a conceptual standpoint, because apparently in the early

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 2>stages the monsters were going to be more zombie like

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 2>or just kind of like possessed people, and he ended

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>up pushing for a different design, a design that ultimately

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I think ended up being cheaper, which the studio liked,

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>but it leaned heavily on body paint and lean actors

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 2>in stilts with just prosthetic heads and some interesting like

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>growin and tail features that we'll get to here in

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 2>a bit. The monsters are terrific, but Masters has been

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 2>involved in a number of different films that have great

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 2>practical special effects like Necronomicon, Book of the Dead, Hell Raiser, Bloodline,

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>The Resurrected. The Resurrected is the good Lovecraft movie that

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to remember in a previous episode. He

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 2>was in the fifth Nightmare on m Street movie. He

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 2>was in Return of not In. He did the effects

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>for them, Return of Swamp Things, Slither Star Trek, First Contact.

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 2>He did the borg stuff in that with the you know,

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 2>the boorg Queen. He was responsible for that. And apparently

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 2>he's going to do a movie according to IMDb, about

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 2>giant leeches. So bringing the giant leeches back. I think

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 2>they've been absent from cinema for well, what since the

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>fifties or something.

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh, bring them on. But yeah, I agree with everything

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 3>you said. I really love the monster design in this movie.

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 3>It's simple. They look great. They've got green glowing eyes

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 3>and mouths. That's excellent.

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.919
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well let's jump into the film itself. Let's

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 2>let's roll through the plot.

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, so, first of all, you have a classic Tails

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 3>from the crypt opening, which is, you know, your Dolly

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 3>shot through the Cobweby mansion, and then you go down

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 3>a secret passageway into the dungeon and it looks like

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 3>it's the layer of Doctor Faustus. And then the crypt

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 3>keeper he pops up out of the coffin and cackles

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.760
<v Speaker 3>at you. And as I said before, all the sound

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 3>effects here, it's the Tales from the Crypto music is playing,

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 3>and then you get there crypt keeper laugh. That is

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 3>that is such a powerful auditory queue to nineties childhood mindset.

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I showed that, just the opening to my son to

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 2>see how he would dig it, and he did not

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 2>dig it. He found it, Oh, he found it. They

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 2>found it frightening, and he did not want any part

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 3>That's probably all for the best. This movie is not

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 3>for kids.

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not to say he was traumatized by it

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 2>or anything, but I was like, you want to check

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 2>this out for Halloween, and he's like, okay, sure, and

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.720
<v Speaker 2>then he saw it and he's like no, thank you.

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Now. I don't know if we even mentioned this before,

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 3>but the movie starts with an opening segment that is

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 3>not connected to the rest of the plot. I guess

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 3>we did mention that there were brackets, but it starts

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 3>you off in media res with stuff going on with

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 3>other characters you like. Pan up and it's on the

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 3>scene of a woman reclining in lingerie talking on the

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 3>phone about how she has just murdered her husband, like

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 3>his bloody clothes are still all over the place, and

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 3>he's and we see he's downstairs dissolving in a tub

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.360
<v Speaker 3>of acid in the basement, and she's tall looking to

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 3>her lover on the phone about how much they're going

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 3>to enjoy spending all of the dead guy's money, and then,

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 3>of course, pretty much immediately the tub corpse wakes up,

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 3>and then it climbs the stairs and it has a

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 3>hatchet in its hand and it charges in on her

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 3>in a psycho style scene where she's in the bathtub

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 3>and he's like ah, and then we get a cut, cut, cut,

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 3>and it turns out it's a movie within a movie.

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 3>The corpse man is being played by John Laura Keett,

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.919
<v Speaker 3>which is just excellent wait, did we already talk about

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 3>John Laura Keett.

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 2>We didn't. But of course he's most famous, or at least

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 2>for older TV viewers, for being the lawyer what was

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.919
<v Speaker 2>the name Felding on Night Court?

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 3>I never saw Night Court Handfielding.

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 3>He also plays a lawyer at some point on The

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 3>West Wing.

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he played a lot of characters like that. But

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>for horror fans, he of course was the narrator on

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 2>the original Texas Chainsaw Masker, that opening scroll that sets

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>the tone for the film, and he did that at

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 2>least in the the follow up in Texas Chanceallmascer two.

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if he did any of the sequels

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>beyond that. I think he did, but most notably that

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>first one though, really the first thing you hear in

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 2>that picture.

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 3>He's good at playing a kind of like a thundering, conceited,

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 3>pompous wind bag exactly.

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's That's everything that he played to a tee.

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 3>But in this movie, it's funny because he's just got

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 3>this bit part where he plays an actor playing a

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 3>tub corpse who's about to hatchet his his scheming ex

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 3>wife to death. And then but it turns out it's

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 3>a movie within a movie. And then we pan up

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 3>on the crypt Keeper, who's sitting in the director's chair,

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 3>so imagine Jeremy Bentham's preserved remains and start he starts

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 3>screaming at John Larroquette about how he can't act at all.

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 3>He's like, you're no Gory Cooper, You're not even a

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Robert Dadford.

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 2>And he was an ambitious bit of special effects here,

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:58.439
<v Speaker 2>because they clearly had a live actor doing some sort

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 2>of like green screen head and then they put the

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 2>puppeteered crypt keeper head over that in post so it

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 2>looks and it looks maybe a tiny bit rough. You

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 2>can tell there's some ambitious special effects going on here.

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 2>But it's still amusing, which makes sense. You know, this

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 2>is Tales from the Crypt the movie. You should go

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>for it right.

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, And it's great because so this opening film within

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 3>a film thing is perfect. It is a Tales from

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 3>the Crypt episode. You know, it's a c detail in

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 3>which a bad person gets what's coming to them.

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 3>But so then of course we get the crypt Keeper

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.399
<v Speaker 3>introducing the main story. He's you know, I can't remember

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 3>exactly what he says, but he makes a bunch of

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 3>puns and then he's like, I call this one demon night,

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 3>and then we cut to the opening credits over a

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 3>car cruising on a dark desert highway with the most

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 3>perfect nineteen ninety five soundtrack choice.

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 2>That's right, it's filters hey Man, nice shot, which is

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 2>also in the trailer I think, which I think is

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 2>just mandatory. This was just us law that if you

0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>had a film that came out in ninety five, you

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 2>had to use hey Man I shot.

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was. It was hard to contain the laughter

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 3>while that was going on. And then of course we

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 3>see William Saddler driving and he's you know, looking over

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 3>his shoulder as if pursued by the hounds of hell.

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 3>But no, it's even worse. It's Billy Zane and a

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 3>cowboy hat. And it's very funny when it first reveals

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 3>Billy Zayne's smirking face in the in the car that's

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 3>chasing William Saddler, and so William Sadler starts to run

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 3>out of gas on this desert highway and there is

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 3>a highway showdown slash shootout, like Billy z Ane's riding

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 3>up on him, and William Sadler gets out a rifle

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 3>it's like a lever action rifle, and starts shooting at

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Billy Zanne's car. Eventually the car catches on fire, but

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Billy Zayn, undeterred, just rams straight into Saddler's car. Saddler

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 3>gets out of it at the last second, and there's

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 3>this huge fiery ramming explosion. So William Saddler escapes the

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 3>flaming wreckage. And I guess we're supposed to assume, as

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 3>the naive audience, that Billy Zain has been killed in

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 3>the explosion, I guess, But why would we actually believe that?

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, would it make sense for Billy's aying to

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 3>be killed. No, it doesn't, doesn't. But William Sadler he

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 3>looks at his palm and he sees a bunch of dots.

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 3>I think they're a little like star tattoos on his palm,

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 3>and some of them are glowing and others are not.

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 3>And then he just sort of ambles on through the night.

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 3>He's got drifter energy.

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.320
<v Speaker 2>He's got places to be apocalypses too for event.

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, And so he ambles on into Wormwood, New Mexico,

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 3>again not a real place, and goes up to a

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:35.919
<v Speaker 3>diner called the Halfway House Cafe and immediately starts trying

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 3>to jack cars, Like he gets out a butterfly knife

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.720
<v Speaker 3>and is sticking it in the keyhole of a car

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 3>outside in the parking lot, and a kid comes out

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:46.879
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, hey, are you stealing my daddy's car?

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, no, I'm just testing the lock.

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Wormwood, New Mexico seems like a very interesting place because

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 2>not only do they have drifters, it seems to be

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.919
<v Speaker 2>exclusively populated by drifters. Like I want to meet other

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 2>drifters that make up this town, like Mayor Drifter and

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the post office, Like everybody's kind of

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 2>like a suspect, a drifter type character.

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 3>It's a drifter community. Like the characters in the town

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 3>who are not drifters, they're written in such a way

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 3>that they're like one decision away from being a drifter.

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we all are, really, but especially these characters.

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, a bunch of people run out of the diner.

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 3>I think one of the people who runs out is

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Thomas Hayden Church. But a bunch of people run out

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 3>and then they run William Saddler off, so he's chased

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 3>off into the night where he runs into Dick Miller

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 3>as an old drunk and they share some whiskey and

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 3>commiserate for a bid and then Dick Miller tells him that, hey,

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 3>I know a place where you can bed down for

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 3>the night, and so they're funneling him toward this old church.

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 3>You can immediately tell the sort of plot mechanics that

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 3>are happening here. We're sivving all of the characters into

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 3>this one fortress location.

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Now, fact about this location, it looks really great, it

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 2>lose phenomenal. But when they went to put the film together,

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Dickerson particularly did not want to film at night and

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 2>have like really long nights of shoots for the cast

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 2>and crew. So that was one of the reasons that

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 2>instead they got an airplane hangar, and in it they

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 2>built that building and the immediate surroundings oh nice like

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 2>in its entirety, so that they could just film during

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.720
<v Speaker 2>the day at their leisure and have complete control over

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 2>the lighting. But there was one issue. Pigeons were already

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 2>living in there in the airplane hangar, and you know

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 2>how pigeons are, They're constantly making noise, making these pigeon noises.

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>So they couldn't get rid of the pigeons. But what

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:48.959
<v Speaker 2>they ended up doing is every time before they would

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:52.839
<v Speaker 2>the roll the camera, before they'd say action, they would

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 2>fire off a blank They would fire off a gun

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 2>in order to just frighten the pigeons and get them

0:44:58.200 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 2>to shut up, so they could they could have this

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 2>window of time in which they could film before the

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:04.800
<v Speaker 2>pigeons started to their ruckus. Again.

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's funny. Somehow I feel like I could kind

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.720
<v Speaker 3>of sense that it was that it was indoor for outdoor,

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:12.959
<v Speaker 3>even though it's a vast expanse, like you can't see

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 3>the walls of the airplane hangar or anything.

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 2>But that's good.

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 3>And I think I've said this on the show before.

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 3>I for some reason always really enjoy a good indoor

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 3>for outdoor set. Well.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 2>It can make a very surreal environment, you know. And

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:28.800
<v Speaker 2>it makes sense for this film because the only exteriors

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 2>we have were this loathsome former church in the middle

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 2>of a desert at the end of the world, and

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 2>then one flashback to the Crucifixion. So yeah, so it

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 2>makes sense that that we have this alien environment created

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 2>by shooting everything inside of an airplane hangar exactly.

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 3>But so what is this church? Dick Miller explains to

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.280
<v Speaker 3>us that it's a church that isn't a church anymore.

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 3>He says they decommissioned it in the fifties due to

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 3>lack of interest.

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the official monology on the decommissioning.

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Form, right, Yeah, it was like interest on who's part,

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 3>like on the preacher there, or.

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 2>I think it was the town. There's just you know,

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 2>it's just a bunch of drifters.

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, I'm not interested in that reverend. But so, yeah,

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 3>it turns into it turns out to be this boarding house.

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 3>It's like a desert hotel sort of. And it's it's

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 3>like we said, it's like the evil Dead cabin for

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 3>the movie, the Fortress of Order that will collect the

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 3>characters and then fall under attack. It's the supernatural Alamo.

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh, and then meanwhile we also see that Billy Zain

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 3>is hooking up with the police, Like the police are

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.359
<v Speaker 3>investigating the crash on the on the highway. The cars

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 3>are on fire. They're like nobody could have survived that.

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Those cars hit each other going one hundred miles per hour,

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 3>which we saw that opening scene. They were not going

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:52.399
<v Speaker 3>one hundred miles an hour, but whatever. So but then

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Billy Zaine just sort of like walks out from behind

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 3>the flaming car and he's like, hey, what's up, and

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 3>they're all like, oh, I didn't think you could have

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 3>survived that. But so he explains to them that he

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:06.919
<v Speaker 3>was chasing a man who stole something, and so they're like, well,

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 3>we'll help you find him, and so Zayan therefore enlists

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 3>the police on his team.

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Initially, yeah, he's just so ding dang charming, they just

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 2>can't say no. Yeah. Now, I have to say the

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 2>film does a great job setting all this up, there's

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:23.800
<v Speaker 2>no wasted motion really, and getting us from here into

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:27.320
<v Speaker 2>our siege location and beginning to establish the rules for everything.

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 2>And then the characters are mostly there to fulfill basic

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:34.479
<v Speaker 2>tropes in the story, you know again, like the bumbling cop,

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. But you know, I feel like it comes

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 2>together rather well and also ultimately surprises you with a

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 2>few choices in terms of like who survives and who doesn't.

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally all.

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, we got everybody more or less bottled up inside

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 2>this old building. Who are our characters?

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm not gonna remember all of them, but so

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 3>the main ones. I guess. You got William Sadler as

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.439
<v Speaker 3>this guy who will find out his named breaker. He's

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 3>the drifter. You've got Jada Pinkett playing Jerlene, who is

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 3>she is somebody who I think formerly was in prison

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.800
<v Speaker 3>and now she's working for the boarding house on work release.

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Then you've got c h. Pounder who is playing Irene,

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 3>who is the owner proprietor of the boarding house. You've

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 3>got Cordelia who is a prostitute. You've got Wally who

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 3>is a mail carrier. You've got Thomas Hayden Church. I

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 3>don't remember his character's name, but he's the creep. He's

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 3>the guy roach right, Yeah, he's like the cook at

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 3>the diner who is just a nasty backstab and woman

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Hayten creep. And then a few others.

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, you got uncle Wally in there.

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh did we not already talk about uncle We talked

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 3>about uncle Uncle Willie, Uncle Willy. That's that's that's stick Miller.

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 3>And then and then we'll have the police and then

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.840
<v Speaker 3>oh and there's a kid who shows up later, I think.

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 2>But that's basically it. That's it.

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh, okay, I thought I may have forgotten somebody.

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:00.120
<v Speaker 3>There's a great scene when we're sort of just getting

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.240
<v Speaker 3>to know all the characters. There's a scene of Breaker

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:07.800
<v Speaker 3>eating this food on the table. It's just bright green slop.

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:09.920
<v Speaker 3>It looks like the slime that they used to have

0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 3>on Nickelodeon.

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Ye.

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 3>So it's just bright green liquid that he's eating with

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 3>a spoon and he slathers it in ketchup.

0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, but he's happy to get it. He's just

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 2>he's clearly famished.

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And then eventually the police arrive with Billy Zain

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 3>in response to a report of an attempted car theft.

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that was William Sadler trying to jack the

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 3>car with his knife earlier. And as soon as Billy

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Zay arrives and sees William Saddler in the sporting house,

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:39.360
<v Speaker 3>it's just like this is like the you know, the

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 3>lights go off and he's sick in the cops on him.

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 3>They've got William Saddler in cuffs and Zayne is looking

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 3>for what Breaker stole, which is an antiquity of some kind.

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's going to be our main plot element

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 2>here that we'll get to do in a bit. This

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.280
<v Speaker 2>is the key. This is the thing that the demons

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 2>want and that the the mortals in the universe absolutely

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 2>cannot let fall into their hands.

0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, And then Dick Miller sells him out. I felt betrayed.

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 3>They've got him in the cuffs there, they're like, where

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 3>is the thing? They've been looking around for it. I

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:14.760
<v Speaker 3>think they come across Thomas Hayden Church in the middle

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:16.959
<v Speaker 3>of some kind of sex act that involves him getting

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:18.240
<v Speaker 3>hooked up to a car battery.

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh. Yeah, he has a great line, didn't He's like,

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 2>my nipples are burning.

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think he says they're smoking.

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Smoking, My nipples are smoking. Yeah, it's good. I hope

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 2>it's in his reel.

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's got to be.

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 2>But yeah.

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:34.439
<v Speaker 3>Eventually they've looked all over for this thing. They can't

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:36.760
<v Speaker 3>find it. Then Dick Miller sells him out. He sells

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 3>out breaker. He's like, hey, actually the artifact is just

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 3>here under the table where everybody's standing. Yeah, and it's

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 3>some kind of key, But it's also like a bottle

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:51.879
<v Speaker 3>filled with some liquid, and Billy Zay won't touch it.

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 3>It's clear something very significant is going on. What he

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:57.839
<v Speaker 3>wants is for Dick Miller to pour out its contents

0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 3>and then put it into a suitcase for him, and

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Breaker tells him not to do it, and they argue

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 3>back and forth, and eventually the cops are like, ah,

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 3>the hell with it. Both of the cars from this

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 3>car crash were stolen. You're both going to jail and

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:12.799
<v Speaker 3>we'll figure it out later. So they try to take

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 3>Sadler and Zaane off to jail. But then Zaye I

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 3>think the a switch flips and he comes off the

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 3>leash with an excellent punch right through the sheriff's head.

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Through the sheriff's head Ricky O style.

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, except unlike Ricky Oh, he's got this wonderful awkwardness

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 2>of the head being stuck on his fist on his arm.

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Seems like having to try and get that off of

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 2>his hand.

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty great, yeah, And then all hell breaks loose.

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:43.799
<v Speaker 3>Billy fights to get the key, Breaker burns him with it,

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 3>so it's like a vampire with a crucifix, you know.

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:47.880
<v Speaker 3>If you touch the key to his face, it seems

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 3>to burn him. And then Billy Zaying flies out the

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 3>window and then stands there while everybody watches him, and

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 3>he pierces his palm with a fingernail bleeds a bunch

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 3>of green blood all over the place. The drops of

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 3>his green blood on the earth make an army of

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 3>demons to attack the house.

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.680
<v Speaker 2>He throws a nice hissy fit first, though, there's a

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 2>there's a great but yeah. Then he starts summoning the monsters,

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 2>and man, if you if you weren't already on board

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 2>with this, once the monsters pop out in this film,

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:19.799
<v Speaker 2>you're really good to go, because these are some great monsters. Again,

0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:23.839
<v Speaker 2>these are like they're They're unlike most monsters I've seen

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 2>in other films. They're like these ghastly gaunt grave walker

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 2>types but with also with the with the glowing green

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 2>eyes that we mentioned, but also like piercings in places,

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 2>but but not in like a punk sense, in a

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 2>like a seemingly like antique sense, like they're creatures of

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:42.400
<v Speaker 2>another time. Yeahn you know, Yeah, so they have I

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 2>feel like they play against expectations in the of the

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:48.800
<v Speaker 2>typical demon and zombie trope, like.

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Like the jewelry you might find in like an ancient

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 3>grave or something, you know, like ancient Egypt or something

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 3>who or something.

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have kind of a gin quality to them,

0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:00.120
<v Speaker 2>and they have a great silhouette to them. You know,

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:02.759
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like when you think of like having

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:04.120
<v Speaker 2>a good logo, they say, well, it has to be

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 2>able to work in black and white. I mean you

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:08.480
<v Speaker 2>think of like a iconic characters like Darth Vader, you

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 2>can recognize him by his silhouette, and these monsters cut

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 2>a really signature silhouette, which is key because they're often

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:17.399
<v Speaker 2>just shot there. You see some great close ups of them,

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 2>but they're often just in the background, in the in

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the shadows, kind of creeping about and all.

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's great also because they provide a sort

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:29.600
<v Speaker 3>of textural setting that really allows Billy Zaane to shine

0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 3>because Billy Zain is the front man doing his uh,

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:35.319
<v Speaker 3>doing his his funny stick. He's like a you know,

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 3>a burlesque comedian or something. And then he's got the

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 3>green eyed goblins all slinking around behind him to back

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.040
<v Speaker 3>him up. They're his course line.

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely. Now on the feature at one cool thing

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 2>they mentioned, I mentioned how like basically these are these

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 2>these outfits depend heavily on just body painting, like slender actors,

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.280
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of like skin involved, and there's stilts.

0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 2>But then they have an awesome prosth had it looks

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a you know, demonic pickled pig or something.

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.960
<v Speaker 2>And then they then they have this they're they're groin

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 2>and their their there there that area is covered up,

0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and they have these tails, uh, these like stunted tails

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 2>that wag and apparently those were radio controlled and the

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 2>actors had to stow the battery like high up between

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 2>their legs. So it was quite a demanding role a

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, stilts battery between your leg big piece of

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:30.320
<v Speaker 2>prosthetics over your head. But the end result looks tremendous.

0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:33.360
<v Speaker 3>I totally agree. So so once these monsters are in

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:36.839
<v Speaker 3>play and Billy zines outside trying to cause trouble, we've

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.959
<v Speaker 3>got scenes of William Saddler running around the house trying

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 3>to seal up the openings, like seal up the doors

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:47.080
<v Speaker 3>and windows with blood from this key. And then we

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 3>get flashbacks of the Crucifixion of Jesus yep, involving green

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:53.800
<v Speaker 3>eyed demons and lightning strikes.

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and again they have a has an excellent

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 2>otherworldly feel to it, like this could be the Crucifixion

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:03.800
<v Speaker 2>on an a world, which especially since it seems a

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:06.920
<v Speaker 2>bit different, because I mean, some of you you ever

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 2>went to Sunday School and you know you've ever read

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:11.719
<v Speaker 2>your Bible, You probably don't remember the hooded demons that

0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 2>are showing up and chasing people around at the foot

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:16.759
<v Speaker 2>of the cross, but it happens here.

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 3>History is written by the victors, you know. The demons

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 3>lost that struggle, so they got written out of the story.

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 3>This is funny because it made me think about what

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 3>is the best Golgotha scene ever in a horror movie?

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:31.880
<v Speaker 3>And another one that occurred to me is Layer of

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 3>the Whiteworm by Kim Russell, which is an awesomely weird

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 3>movie that we may have to cover on here someday.

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that one has a good one. I

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 2>feel like maybe there's at least one other Kim Russell

0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:44.440
<v Speaker 2>film that has a crucifixion scene in it. Doesn't it

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:48.360
<v Speaker 2>show up in His Last Devils? Well maybe in The Devils,

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 2>but also in The Altered States, right.

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, the one where William Hurd is sort of playing R.

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Gordon Wasson or maybe he's playing what's his name the

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 3>guy you did in as about.

0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh John C. Lilly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.600
<v Speaker 2>one has a weird crucifixion in it. There's also an

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:10.760
<v Speaker 2>excellent otherworldly crucifixion scene in the Ninth Configuration, the nineteen

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 2>eighty film directed by William Peter Bladdie and written by him,

0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 2>based on one of his novels. Yeah, it's that one.

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Who that's a weird film we could discuss, and it's

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 2>got some great performances in it.

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 3>So after this part where the demons are set loose,

0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:37.360
<v Speaker 3>the rest of the movie you could say it becomes

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 3>less structured, I guess, because it's just sort of like

0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:42.719
<v Speaker 3>a you know, you get different sort of vignettes within

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 3>the supernatural demon siege, Like you get Billy Zane issuing

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 3>hallucinatory temptations to various characters in the boarding house, and

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 3>then often this temptation scene will be followed by demon

0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:58.800
<v Speaker 3>possession of the person, and then there will be attacks

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:03.359
<v Speaker 3>by monsters, human attempting to escape and so forth, and

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:07.440
<v Speaker 3>more flashbacks about the backstory of the key. We get

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:10.840
<v Speaker 3>to see Breaker in World War One, it seems, looking

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 3>exactly the same. Age he's in the trenches. A buddy

0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 3>of his gets killed somehow and is bleeding all over

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 3>the place, and the guy's like, now you are the

0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 3>chosen one, and the I guess the memory of the

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:27.480
<v Speaker 3>crucifixion of Jesus gets like downloaded into William Sadler's brain.

0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he's now part of this lineage of immortals

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:34.320
<v Speaker 2>that have to protect the key and carry it through time, right.

0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 3>And eventually Breaker has to explain this to all the

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:40.000
<v Speaker 3>other characters and they're like, wow, that's interesting. You're the

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:42.640
<v Speaker 3>chosen one across time and you've been alive since World

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:45.960
<v Speaker 3>War One. And Thomas Hayden Church, who I just realized

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:50.280
<v Speaker 3>earlier his initials are THHC. But anyway, he comes up.

0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 3>So he's been a jerk the entire time so far.

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.800
<v Speaker 3>He's been, you know, acting cowardly and cruel to others.

0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:58.560
<v Speaker 3>And after this story he comes up to a Breaker

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:01.479
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, wow, I really admire what you did.

0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:05.520
<v Speaker 3>I was wrong about you. But then, of course, what

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:08.680
<v Speaker 3>he's really trying to do is get Breaker to let

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:10.440
<v Speaker 3>his guard down so he can double cross him, and

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 3>he swipes the key from him.

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now he's swiped the key. Meanwhile, the temptations continue

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 2>because even though Billy's ain and his demon minions are

0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 2>stuck outside for the most part, he can reach out

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:27.480
<v Speaker 2>to your mind and tempt you last Temptation of Christ

0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 2>style with something you want, And some of the these

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:34.360
<v Speaker 2>make for some nice, fun little sequences. For instance, when

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 2>he's tempting Jada Pinkett's character, it's it's the this is

0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 2>the sequence where it's like in it feels like it's

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:43.920
<v Speaker 2>in a parking garage and there's this weird scene of

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 2>her face on a screen and they're like demon hands

0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 2>on the other side pressing against it. And then when

0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:54.400
<v Speaker 2>that rips open, she's she sees this image of breakers

0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Breaker like being torn apart by the creatures of them

0:58:57.280 --> 0:58:58.440
<v Speaker 2>eating his entrails.

0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well he's I think Billy Zane's tempting her with

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 3>the idea that she that he could make her like

0:59:04.560 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 3>rich and famous and she'll see the world. Yeah, she'll

0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 3>see the world. Oh, it's like it's like the vivid

0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, which they'll like to see the world. And

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 3>it seems Jada Pinkett really would like to see the world.

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Like she's interested in this temptation, though she doesn't fall

0:59:17.640 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 3>for it. She's got the heroic constitution to resist the temptation.

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what would that what would that saving

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 3>throw be?

0:59:24.120 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 2>In D and D h I guess that would be

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 2>they'd be like a wisdom saving throw. Okay, so maybe

0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 2>a charisma. I don't know, it depends how you play it.

0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Probably wisdom.

0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 3>She succeeds on the wisdom saving throw. She resists the temptation,

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 3>but what he's tempting her with is like, it's not

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 3>exactly clear, but it seems to suggest like, yeah, you

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:43.080
<v Speaker 3>could have your face on the cover of magazines and

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 3>you could travel to all the capitals of the world

0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:48.480
<v Speaker 3>and see Rome and everything. Wouldn't you like that?

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh? And the whole time the grave dig is track

0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 2>one eight hundred Suicide is playing, which is just a

0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:55.600
<v Speaker 2>great beat in the background.

0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's an awesome song. I don't does it ever

0:59:57.680 --> 0:59:59.160
<v Speaker 3>get to the part with lyrics? I don't.

0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they that much of it. Yeah, they

1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 2>just use the intro. You got to be looking for

1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 2>it to notice it.

1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:06.000
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that is a great beat. It does not

1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 3>get to the part about confront an alligator let it

1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:09.360
<v Speaker 3>eat your raw.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah man. But there are other temptation scenes as well, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, there's a bunch of them. There's the temptation

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:18.840
<v Speaker 3>of Dick Miller is great because his is quite different.

1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:22.520
<v Speaker 3>His is a world of beautiful naked women offering him

1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:25.760
<v Speaker 3>bottles of scotch. And then he just sort of like

1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:29.680
<v Speaker 3>wanders through this crowd of ladies being like, try mine

1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:32.720
<v Speaker 3>and holds up but they're all holding identical bottles of scotch,

1:00:32.760 --> 1:00:35.840
<v Speaker 3>I think. And then he goes up maybe maybe Dick

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Miller is just dedicated to one brand. I couldn't tell

1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:40.320
<v Speaker 3>what brand it was. They've got the labels turned away.

1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:43.960
<v Speaker 3>But then he goes up to a bar. And then

1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:46.760
<v Speaker 3>it turns out Billy Zain is the bartender in this

1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:51.480
<v Speaker 3>temptation dream and he so he's a friendly bartender who

1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:54.320
<v Speaker 3>offers him booze, but I think is also supposed to

1:00:54.360 --> 1:00:56.720
<v Speaker 3>be Hunter S. Thompson. Was I mistaken here?

1:00:56.840 --> 1:00:56.880
<v Speaker 1>No?

1:00:57.040 --> 1:00:59.439
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. It's very very much a Hunter

1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:02.760
<v Speaker 2>S Thompson. Look he has going on behind the bar there. Yeah,

1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:05.320
<v Speaker 2>and again it's it's it is Billy Zayane is an

1:01:05.320 --> 1:01:08.920
<v Speaker 2>evil genie from the Disney movie Aladdin here and in

1:01:08.920 --> 1:01:09.959
<v Speaker 2>it way works really well.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember what Billy Zain says, maybe something about

1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:16.600
<v Speaker 3>the golf shoes, but it works. Oh but anyway, this

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<v Speaker 3>leads to, you know, as the standard sequence is somebody

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<v Speaker 3>has a temptation, they succumb to the temptation. They're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I want I want what you are putting down. Billy

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<v Speaker 3>Zain and Dick Miller obviously wants this, and so he

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<v Speaker 3>turns into a demon and attacks some of the characters.

1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:34.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember all who, but I think maybe he's

1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:38.760
<v Speaker 3>fighting with Jada Pinkett and with William Sadler, and somehow

1:01:39.200 --> 1:01:43.840
<v Speaker 3>his head gets cut off, and there's a great scene

1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:47.720
<v Speaker 3>where they, oh, the demons are vulnerable in their eyes.

1:01:47.960 --> 1:01:50.080
<v Speaker 3>The way you can put a demon down is to

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<v Speaker 3>like shoot it in the green eyeballs. And so the

1:01:53.240 --> 1:01:57.280
<v Speaker 3>way they stop Dick Miller's severed head from continually commanding

1:01:57.320 --> 1:02:00.000
<v Speaker 3>his body to attack them is one of the characters

1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:02.800
<v Speaker 3>grabs his head and shoves it into the antler of

1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:04.040
<v Speaker 3>a mounted stag.

1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, there's some great eye violence to the demons

1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:08.520
<v Speaker 2>in this film.

1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. There's also a great scene where Billy Zain is

1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:14.600
<v Speaker 3>wheeling and dealing with Thomas Hayden Church because I remember

1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:17.160
<v Speaker 3>thhc is. He's been like, hey, I've got the key,

1:02:17.240 --> 1:02:18.760
<v Speaker 3>I stole it. You know, I'll give it to you

1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:22.080
<v Speaker 3>if you let me escape. And so they're they're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about their deal and Billy's ain is just walking on sunshine.

1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:30.120
<v Speaker 3>He is so light on his feet and frisky and exciting.

1:02:30.520 --> 1:02:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he is. It's another great scene and it's and

1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:35.680
<v Speaker 2>you know exactly what's going to happen, you know, and

1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:39.080
<v Speaker 2>it's it's delightful. This is a scene in which it's

1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:41.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like Tails from the Crypt classic again because you

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<v Speaker 2>have a horrible character that's gonna make making this choice.

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<v Speaker 2>You think he's gonna get away, but no, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get away with it because he's gonna be double

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<v Speaker 2>crossed by Billy Zaine. Of course, he barely makes it

1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:54.760
<v Speaker 2>down the stairs before he says, actually, I lied, You're

1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:57.240
<v Speaker 2>not gonna make it away safe, and all the demons

1:02:57.480 --> 1:02:59.880
<v Speaker 2>turn on Thomas Hayden Church and Terry's character to be.

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<v Speaker 3>The next thing that was really funny was that there

1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:06.560
<v Speaker 3>is a scene of the next Temptation scene is of

1:03:06.600 --> 1:03:10.040
<v Speaker 3>the Kid Billy where he is turned into a violent

1:03:10.120 --> 1:03:12.560
<v Speaker 3>maniac by reading a copy of the Tales from the

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<v Speaker 3>Crypt comic book.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that because on one hand it does it

1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:18.200
<v Speaker 2>is the idea of like the corrupting comic book, but

1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:21.080
<v Speaker 2>it also made me think. You know, with the adults,

1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Billy Zain's character, the Collector, he's like, what if I

1:03:24.000 --> 1:03:26.160
<v Speaker 2>offered you travel? What have I offered you all the

1:03:26.200 --> 1:03:28.120
<v Speaker 2>beautiful women and booze in the world. But for a kid,

1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:30.520
<v Speaker 2>he's like, what if I just literally turned you into

1:03:30.520 --> 1:03:32.920
<v Speaker 2>a bloodthirsty monster? Would you be down for that? And

1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the kid's like, yes, yes, I vote yes, Let's do

1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:39.800
<v Speaker 2>exactly that then, And that's what happens, pure honesty.

1:03:40.520 --> 1:03:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I love it now. As the characters, it's the kind

1:03:43.600 --> 1:03:46.960
<v Speaker 3>of standard thing where in one of these supernatural fortress

1:03:46.960 --> 1:03:50.760
<v Speaker 3>siege movies where the characters are continually driven further and

1:03:50.800 --> 1:03:53.960
<v Speaker 3>further into retreat, like further back into the bailey or whatever.

1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:57.600
<v Speaker 3>And so at this point they end up retreating to

1:03:57.840 --> 1:04:00.360
<v Speaker 3>the attic, and at each point of retreat there's some

1:04:00.440 --> 1:04:03.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of battle that goes on, and we get some

1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:07.440
<v Speaker 3>chances for characterists to actually be like courageous and be heroes.

1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:11.760
<v Speaker 3>So Deputy Bob and Irene at one point, like the

1:04:11.840 --> 1:04:14.800
<v Speaker 3>suicide bomb, a bunch of the demons with a vestimate

1:04:14.840 --> 1:04:15.680
<v Speaker 3>out of grenades.

1:04:15.880 --> 1:04:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've been watching aliens?

1:04:18.120 --> 1:04:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Where did they? Yes, they pull Aasquez and it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of sweet.

1:04:22.160 --> 1:04:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah it is, and of course Breaker bites it

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<v Speaker 2>as well shortly thereafter.

1:04:26.560 --> 1:04:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he gets maimed. And then of course he's like, oh,

1:04:29.960 --> 1:04:32.000
<v Speaker 3>oh they got me, They got me. You got to

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<v Speaker 3>become the new Chosen One to Jada Pinkett and she's

1:04:35.240 --> 1:04:39.120
<v Speaker 3>like what but she I guess she like catches his

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<v Speaker 3>blood I think in the key, and it's just understood

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<v Speaker 3>that yep, from now on, she's just going to be

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<v Speaker 3>immortal and carrying this key around. But then then Billy

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<v Speaker 3>z Ain comes in for one final showdown with with

1:04:51.880 --> 1:04:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Jada and so, and I got to say, at the

1:04:55.120 --> 1:04:57.640
<v Speaker 3>beginning of the scene, he's got on sunglasses that make

1:04:57.720 --> 1:04:58.600
<v Speaker 3>him look like Riddick.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but kind of like ridic.

1:05:01.480 --> 1:05:03.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah wait what kind of ridic.

1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Like pre Ritic? This would the Riddic didn't exist yet, right.

1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh I guess not.

1:05:08.040 --> 1:05:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like maybe Vin Diesel eventually he saw Demon nine.

1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:13.640
<v Speaker 2>He's like that that's the look I'm going.

1:05:13.600 --> 1:05:16.600
<v Speaker 3>To steal exactly. No, I'm not saying they're imitating Ritic.

1:05:16.640 --> 1:05:18.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying he does look like him.

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<v Speaker 2>They look kind of like, yeah, almost like wrap around goggles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But there's another temptation scene where I guess he's

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<v Speaker 3>trying once again. I think he's trying to convince Jeralene

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<v Speaker 3>to marry him. I didn't exactly follow what was going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was basically it's like, well, I've won at

1:05:36.320 --> 1:05:39.040
<v Speaker 2>this point, I'm going to kill you, but if I

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<v Speaker 2>could turn you instead, if I could, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you marry me, then I'm even more of a success

1:05:44.880 --> 1:05:48.600
<v Speaker 2>back home in the in the hells. So he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot the moon. I'm going for it,

1:05:51.000 --> 1:05:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you know. He's he's feeling on top of it, and

1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:54.840
<v Speaker 2>he makes the offer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Billy's saying he is on broiler mode. In

1:05:58.160 --> 1:06:03.240
<v Speaker 3>this scene. He is like the energy is electric. And

1:06:03.520 --> 1:06:06.840
<v Speaker 3>there's a part where infernal lightning erupts out of his groin.

1:06:06.920 --> 1:06:09.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's explained why he's just been

1:06:09.400 --> 1:06:12.440
<v Speaker 3>like talking and then like lightning shoots out of his crotch.

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<v Speaker 2>That was in the featurettes. It was mentioned that this

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<v Speaker 2>was Zaane's idea for the character, and Dickerson was like,

1:06:18.680 --> 1:06:20.080
<v Speaker 2>let's do it, let's roll with it, let's give it

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<v Speaker 2>a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Good choice. Yeah, And then there's a good climax that

1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:27.680
<v Speaker 3>involves Jada Pinkett the whole time that she somehow has

1:06:27.720 --> 1:06:31.959
<v Speaker 3>gotten William Sadler's blood in her mouth, and the whole

1:06:31.960 --> 1:06:34.880
<v Speaker 3>time Billy Zaane's like asking her, well, what do you say?

1:06:34.920 --> 1:06:37.000
<v Speaker 3>He's trying to get her to say something, and she won't.

1:06:37.360 --> 1:06:40.600
<v Speaker 3>And then it's revealed that, oh, she hasn't said anything

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<v Speaker 3>because she still has the blood in her mouth, the

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<v Speaker 3>blood of Christ, I believe somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, we can go ahead and talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this real quick. The idea is that this key with

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<v Speaker 2>the special glass container portion of it here, they it

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<v Speaker 2>was used to collect the blood of Christ at the crucifixion,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like the rail myth. Yeah, yeah, and there's

1:06:59.600 --> 1:07:01.880
<v Speaker 2>still a little Jesus blood in there, but it's been

1:07:01.880 --> 1:07:04.960
<v Speaker 2>replenished with other people's blood, especially the blood of the

1:07:05.040 --> 1:07:08.520
<v Speaker 2>chosen Ones, over time. And so I'm not sure how

1:07:08.560 --> 1:07:10.720
<v Speaker 2>the genetics of that works out or if that's important

1:07:10.800 --> 1:07:14.800
<v Speaker 2>for holy blood, you know, hurting demons, but that's apparently

1:07:14.840 --> 1:07:15.480
<v Speaker 2>how it's supposed to.

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<v Speaker 3>Work, right, And so she's got this blood in her mouth,

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<v Speaker 3>and what do you know, she spits it all over

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<v Speaker 3>Billy Zane's face and that that defeats him in the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great melt. He's a great death scene because he

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<v Speaker 2>melts a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he turns into a puppet.

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<v Speaker 2>He turns into a giant skeletal demon, and then he explodes.

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<v Speaker 2>They just do all the things, like the FX team

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<v Speaker 2>just they had no chill on this film. They're just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred miles an hour the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I guess we're just going to assume that

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<v Speaker 3>now Jada Pinkett is going to live for eighty years

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever until eventually she has to find the next

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<v Speaker 3>chosen One to put her blood into so they can

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<v Speaker 3>go on preventing Billy Zain from taking over the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I guess it's not Billy Zayne. I think he's destroyed.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just going to be a new collector from Hell

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<v Speaker 3>chasing her around.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and we see him at the end. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>she gets on a bus and when she gets on

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<v Speaker 2>she does the thing with the blood that's done throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the film where you form a seal that the demons

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<v Speaker 2>cannot cross. And then this other guy that has a

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<v Speaker 2>briefcase for the key, he sees it and he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll wait on the next bus. And so the chase

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<v Speaker 2>continues and it potentially sets up a sequel that we

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<v Speaker 2>never got. But man, I think it would have been good,

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<v Speaker 2>would have been far preferable to Bordello of Blood, which

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<v Speaker 2>was the actual Tales from the Trip film to follow.

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<v Speaker 3>I never saw Bordello of Blood, but I remember a

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<v Speaker 3>when I was in elementary school, a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 3>telling me about how his mom had a copy of

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<v Speaker 3>that movie on VHS, and I was like, I did

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<v Speaker 3>not know what Bordello meant, and I knew nothing of

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<v Speaker 3>Dennis Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, well, yeah, it definitely has Dennis Miller

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<v Speaker 2>in it. I never saw that one. There was even

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<v Speaker 2>a third one that was I think is even less

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<v Speaker 2>worth seeing. I think it may have Tim Curry in it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like a New Orleans zombie kind of a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>How could a movie with Tim Curry be not worth seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It just doesn't it. I just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't call out to me. Maybe other folks have

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<v Speaker 2>seen it and they can tell us how it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also understand that like some releases of it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even have the Cryptkeeper sequences on it. They released

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<v Speaker 2>it as its own thing, and then other versions they

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<v Speaker 2>put the crypt Keeper back on. But it's also not

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<v Speaker 2>really top shelf Cryptkeeper puppetry going on. So it just

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<v Speaker 2>sounds it sounds like it would be sad to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather stick with Demon Night and like the really

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<v Speaker 2>great tales from the Crypt episodes. Okay, now, in turn,

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<v Speaker 2>we've already talked to a good bit here about the

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<v Speaker 2>monsters and so forth. I guess it is worth noting

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<v Speaker 2>that we do have holy relics that are at least

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<v Speaker 2>alleged to contain the blood of Christ. I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>around a little bit. There are a couple of relics

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<v Speaker 2>of the Holy Blood. There's one in the Basilica of

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Andrea. There's one that at least was at some

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<v Speaker 2>point in Westminster in England. There's the relic of the

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<v Speaker 2>Precious Blood in Viegotten Abbey in Germany. So the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of this key containing the blood is it does seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be based on actual holy relics that allegedly contain

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<v Speaker 2>holy blood. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think also this ties into the grail legend, like

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<v Speaker 3>the idea that at the death of Christ that Joseph

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<v Speaker 3>of Aramathea held a grail that caught the blood of

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus stripping from the cross, and that somehow later he

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<v Speaker 3>brought with him like containers of this blood to other places.

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<v Speaker 3>I think like that's part of the local Glastonbury legend

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<v Speaker 3>in Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I don't know if any of these have actually

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<v Speaker 2>been used against demons though, but perhaps perhaps, Man, there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much they could have done with the sequel though,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they could have had a thing where all right,

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<v Speaker 2>she's on the run as always, the demons are after

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<v Speaker 2>but then where does she wind up a genetics laboratory?

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<v Speaker 2>What do they want to do? They want to use

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<v Speaker 2>the precious blood in the key. They want to try

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<v Speaker 2>and clone Jesus or something, and then that becomes a

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<v Speaker 2>whole plot element.

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<v Speaker 3>But then he'd be a mutant because he'd be like

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<v Speaker 3>part Jesus, but then also part William Sadler and part

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<v Speaker 3>Jada Pinkett.

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<v Speaker 2>William Sadler is Jesus Christ in Demon Night two. There's

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<v Speaker 2>still time.

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<v Speaker 3>There's still time, Ernest Dickerson, if you're listening, please make it.

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<v Speaker 3>I will watch it. I will. I will take all

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<v Speaker 3>my friends to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I will as well. All right, Well, before we close out,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to I'll mention again that You can

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<v Speaker 2>rent or buy this one digitally most places these days.

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<v Speaker 2>But that twenty fifteen Blu ray release from Shout Factory

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<v Speaker 2>Scream Factory Import is really slick and it's loaded with

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<v Speaker 2>cool content. So if you're a Demon Night fan, that's

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<v Speaker 2>worth picking up.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're a demon Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We rented our copy from Video Drum, the last video

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<v Speaker 2>look them up online because you can buy some of

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, they got great T shirts and stuff. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say that the T shirt I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 3>right now is one of theirs. It's not, but it

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<v Speaker 3>could be. It's of their style.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh oh, I see it. It says her Zog

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<v Speaker 2>and then it has the Danzig logo.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice Rachel got me this one?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Well, anything else we need to say about

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<v Speaker 2>Demon Night before we close the crypt down this one?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that wraps it up, but I just say again,

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<v Speaker 3>great fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, as always, we'd love to hear from everyone

1:12:31.360 --> 1:12:33.840
<v Speaker 2>out there. Do you have memories of seeing this when

1:12:33.840 --> 1:12:37.040
<v Speaker 2>it came out? We're discovering it later on. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have particular episodes of Tales from the Crypt that were

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite, We'd love to hear from you about that

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<v Speaker 2>as well, or just any of the other elements in

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<v Speaker 2>this be it Holy Blood or really cool demons. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all on the table. Dick Miller movies that we should

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<v Speaker 2>add to the list. Let us know. In the meantime,

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