WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Holiday Beasts 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:11.200 My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.520 Listener mail on. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.479 Joe McCormick. And bells are ringing, but they are the 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.320 bells of doom. Because today we're going to start off 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.760 with some responses to our rerun of the Crampus episode 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:28.240 from a few years ago. Are you ready to jump in, Rob, Yeah, 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:36.080 let's do it, okay. So this message comes to us 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:40.760 from Colleen. Colleen says, hi, I listened to your episode 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.960 about Crampus the other day and since then have seen 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.400 several posts about it slash hymn slash her on Facebook. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.120 Unfortunately I missed the event. But here's a story from 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:54.000 NOLA dot com. So I guess Colleen must be must 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.320 live somewhere around the New Orleans area. And uh. She 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:00.200 attached a link to a NOLA dot com article told 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.920 by Doug mccash from December six that I looked up 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:06.600 and was pretty great. So, so I want to read 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.040 some parts from this article. You ready, Rob, Yeah, let's 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:13.399 do it okay. So uh, the article begins. A reverse 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.440 parade took place in Gentilly on Saturday night. Instead of 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:22.679 costumed marchers passing a curbside crowd, eight performers covorted on 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.319 the side of the long curving driveway at the New 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.880 Orleans Recreation Development Commission headquarters on Franklin Avenue while a 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.680 steady stream of four hundred cars rolled slowly past. It 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.560 was a Christmas time event with a twist because the 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.360 star of the show wasn't Santa, it was Crampus. So 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.119 apparently New Orleans has been having Crampus events since maybe 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.640 ten or so. Yeah, this was something we talked about 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.280 in the Crampus episode. We talked about sort of the 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.320 Crampus revival that has been sweeping the world and uh 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.080 And in particular, I think at the time I this 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:01.000 was in I had just come back from New Orleans 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:06.000 because up until for several years there it was my 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.800 family's tradition to go down and visit some family in 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.919 southern Mississippi and then go over to New Orleans for 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:16.000 a couple of days, you know, go to uh beach Bumberri's, 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.280 get a get a tiki drink, etcetera. And at the 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.919 time I remember seeing like, oh, there's gonna be a 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.680 Crampus parade oh, and it either begins or ends. I 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.200 forget which at this this German restaurant that looked pretty interesting, 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.400 and so I was talking about that in our Crampus episode. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.960 A German restaurant in New Orleans. Well, yeah, no, okay, 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.280 I can see it. I mean New Orleans has amazing restaurants. 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.840 New Orleans is if wherever back in the Traveling Times, 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.600 New Orleans is such an amazing city to visit. It's 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:45.480 like it's got to be like the most unique city 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.600 in the world, right, I mean it's just like, yeah, yeah, 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:50.440 there's there are a few places like it for sure, 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.440 especially in the United States. I mean it is New 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:58.120 Orleans is New Orleans. Yeah, But so anyway, going on. Uh. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.840 The annual crew of Rampus Foot Parade couldn't take to 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.320 the streets as usual this year because of coronavirus concerns, 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.480 but founder Mike as Sordi, a director of web strategy 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.760 for the University of New Orleans, and fellow crew members 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:17.200 figured out how to conduct a COVID conscious alternative. The 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.560 Crampus Drive through Parade blended elements of the Yule Tide 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:24.600 season with Halloween and Mardi Gras. The experience for passing viewers. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.600 Began with rows of dancers from the well known pussy 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.680 Footer's Carnival Troupe and a cluster of led lit drummers. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.600 Then came a lavishly costumed st Nick surrounded by members 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.960 of the Crescent City Faye Marching Club, followed by strange 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:45.880 snowy witches known as the Silent Sisters of s. After 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.720 that appeared one incarnation of Crampus after another, with glowing 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:55.240 red eyes, unkempt coats of fur, serpentine tongues, and malevolent intentions. 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.440 The Christmas Tree decorated with human skull, the Bad Child, 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:03.160 the Bad Child pleading to be freed, and the eerie 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:07.800 shadow puppet show. We're all uh nice touches. I liked 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:12.240 the momentum, said automobile born audience member Gina Murphy. At 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.480 first you said, oh, this is going to be fun 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.960 and light, but then it got heavy quick uh And 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:23.280 then later in the article, UH. Car passenger Carly Frankitch 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.799 said her favorite part of the presentation were the weird fairies. Sure, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.000 she said, they were taking souls, but they looked pretty 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.960 well they were doing it. Frankitch's young son, Miro coats 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.760 safe in his car seat, said that the ride had 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.760 provided a mixture of fun and fright. This is awesome. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:45.200 I really have to salute the Crampus crew based on this, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.960 because I have to say it's as it was, suddenly 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:53.000 cramps knocked here in. I was initially was like, oh great, 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.120 it's Crampas time again. And I was like, oh wait, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.320 I hope I hope that the Crampuses of the world 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.720 can handle it, because sometimes, as we discussed in that episode, 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.960 Crampus traditions can get a little out of hand. They 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:08.520 can they can create the sort of like animalistic, lawless 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.960 uh sort of atmosphere that might encourage rule breaking, and 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:17.200 I really didn't want that for the cramps um Uh 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.839 devotes this year. So it's nice to see that the 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.920 Crampus crew was keeping it safe but also keeping it 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.720 authentically disturbingly weird. You know. I gotta say, normally I'm 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.640 kind of a fan of rule breaking, but I guess 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.520 not when it's public health rules. Yeah, and you and 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.039 with the and also you know that big tongue and 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.240 you know, a wide mouth. You know, Crampus needs to 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.040 to mask up if he's actually going to go out 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.240 among the people. So it's good that there's a car 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.440 window between what he's doing and what we're doing. I mean, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.760 Crampus is inherently unsanitary, like can you imagine Crampus wearing 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:52.880 a mask, keeping his distance, wiping down the basket between 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:58.560 each child. Yeah, spraying the this is the switches and whatnot? 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.839 All right? Should we go into this message from Chris. Yeah, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.400 this is Chris Chris Wrightson and says, high fellows, just 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.240 listen to your great Crampus episode. Here's the topic you 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.279 may find interesting in the future. Many cultures have a 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.279 creature like Crampus or St. Nicholas that visits every house 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.839 at the end of the year with different purposes. Gumang 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:29.039 from China, uh, Sylvester Clause from Switzerland, Olga Namahanga from Japan. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.520 Japan has many different haga. I said, Hey, I'm not 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.080 sure if it's hajor hag a um but anyway, but 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:40.120 all with the same purpose. And Kukiri from Bulgaria. Just 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.200 a thought, take care and keep up the great work, Chris. 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.279 I wanted to include this email because I had to 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.320 look up images of what Sylvester Klaus looks like, and 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.560 Sylvester Claus is scarier than any crampus at least the 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:57.120 versions I found are a guy with some buckles almost 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.400 like uh like a like a a slip knot member 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.240 number of buckles on his costume, and then foliage all 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.279 over his body, on the top of his head like 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.200 a big wreath of some kind of evergreen limbs. But 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.880 then just the face of rattle shirt, just bone bone 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:17.800 lord face with weird bone teeth and googly eyes. Yeah, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.960 I get it's kind of a sense of a pagan 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:30.520 holiday gar cost him from the Yeah, you know. Our 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.360 next listener mail that our our mail body here has 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.920 for us also happens to relate to a forest dwelling 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:42.120 be steel creature. Very nice transition. So this is a 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.440 straggler message that we found. I think this actually did 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.960 come in back in October, but this is about our 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.000 Halloween episode on The Leshy and it comes from Laura. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.040 Laura says, hey, guys, longtime fan of your show. I 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.560 recently listened to The Leshy and I'm taking you up 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.520 on your offer to share my own, luckily brief experience 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.000 of being lost in the woods. It was during a 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.480 solo through hike of the Pacific Crest Trail. I was 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.480 halfway through Oregon, when a handwritten sign on the trail 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.640 notified me of a ground nest of wasps up ahead, 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.800 so I scrambled up the steep mountain side about ten 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.400 meters off the densely wooded trail to avoid it. Because 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.880 of the steepness and thick vegetation, I immediately lost sight 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.680 of the trail only a few paces into the woods. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.600 Not wanting to get stung, I kept moving off a 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.480 little ways until I felt safe from the hornets and 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.840 started to parallel the trail. What I didn't realize was 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.000 that at some point it switched back beneath me and 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.360 went downhill in the opposite direction that I was traveling. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.640 It was only after bushwhacking for five minutes that I 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.679 realized I had missed the trail. Even though I had 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.800 a sense of where I was on the slope by 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.480 referencing my map, I could not find the trail. Given 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.120 the rolling and forested nature of the mountain side. I 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.920 knew that it would be difficult to know where even 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.040 my relative position was if I kept moving, and it 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.319 would be easy to follow the wrong drainage that would 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.559 take me deeper into the back country. So I think 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.280 the idea there is if you just try to like 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.880 follow a ditch or a stream or something downhill, it 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.160 might be leading you down the wrong side of the mountain. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:20.640 I guess Laura goes on. Once I realized I was lost, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.960 I had a wave of panic hit me that had 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.520 my legs twitching to run as fast as I could, 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.000 so I tried to calm down and listen for other 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.880 hikers that might be in the area. Within minutes, I 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.680 realized that I could convince myself that I heard faint 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.719 voices in every direction. I think my brain was so 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.120 desperate for a human voice that it was trying hard 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:44.079 to interpret the sounds of the forest as voices. At 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.320 that point, my reason kicked in and I did an 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.040 inventory of my food and water. I had about two 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.440 days worth, but could stretch it to a desperate week 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.320 if I didn't move. Knowing that I was probably within 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.760 earshot of the trail, I knew my best bet was 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.040 to stay as calm as I could where I was, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.200 so me being a religious person, I got down on 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.800 my knees and prayed as hard as I could for peace. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.480 When I opened my eyes, I told myself that I 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.280 was going to only move a dozen feet downhill from 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.560 where I was, so that I could try to find 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.200 a flatter spot to set up camp, at which point 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.000 I was going to blow on my whistle and hope 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.440 that someone would hear me before my food ran out. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.160 If I hadn't been found by then, I would activate 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:26.120 my personal locator beacon as a last resort. LO and behold, 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.640 only about three steps downhill had me back on the trail. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.360 I was truly terrified for the rest of the day. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.480 From that point on, whenever I camped or napped off 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.960 the trail, I kept one of my trekking poles pointed 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.800 back towards it. In total, I was only lost for 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.880 about an hour, and it was by the grace of 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.280 God and dumb luck that I managed to cross the 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.680 trail again. I had considered myself an experienced hiker up 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.160 until that point, but since then I am humbled by 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.360 my experience. Laura, excellent. I mean that lines up with 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.839 a lot of what we were talking about, um and 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.480 also getting into some of the sensory deprivation shoes that 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.640 we we didn't really dwell on. Yeah, it ends up 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.640 with a ton of the things like from some of 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.000 those studies about how just people are have trouble anticipating 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.720 how disorienting being lost in the woods can be. You 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.360 you think, not actually being in the situation, it would 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.280 be easy. I just walked back the direction I came, 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.880 you know, But but yeah, often doesn't work out that way. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.880 So glad you found your way back, Laura. Yeah. Oh, 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.439 and uh, you know earlier we mentioned a straggler email. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.600 I do want to drive home never hesitated to send 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.600 us a straggler email. If you listen to an old 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.880 episode or you know, even if it's not one that's 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.720 been featured in the Vault, and you have something interesting 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.760 to share, do reach out to us because, especially now 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.240 that we're taking uh stuff to blew your mind listener 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.559 mail more of a more of a weekly route, we'd 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.680 love to hear from everybody. We have more space now 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.920 than ever before to share interesting listener mails with everybody totally. 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.400 And actually I think we were straggling on this one, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.160 not not Laura. So I think this one came in 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.240 during October or something and we missed it until I 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.440 went back and found that got you. Yeah, we we've 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:10.640 managed to trace our way back to the path. All right, Well, 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:12.760 so many of you know, we're also putting out these 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.560 weird House Cinema episodes on Friday's. Uh it's you know, 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.559 normally the show is science and culture, but they're on 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.640 on Friday evenings. I like to think of it as 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.120 a midnight Friday show and we talk about weird movies 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.400 and maybe we talk a little bit about science and culture, 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.920 but mostly it's about the film. So we've heard from 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.520 people about these episodes, and most of it's been very positive. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.400 Here's one that comes to us from Jesse. Okay, guys, 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.000 you will have to first put up with some gushing. 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:39.959 I cannot tell you how much I love you guys 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.640 and your show. I recommend you at every opportunity. I 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.680 work a lot in life, and for years now, you 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.480 guys have turned what would otherwise be excruciating commutes to 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:51.280 absolute pleasures. I have wanted to email you just just 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.320 this for a long time, but I figure you get 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.320 mail like this all the time, So finally I have 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.959 a real good reason to write in. I was about 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.400 to start the dishes when I saw you were covering 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.240 the Battle for Indoor and I almost dropped my phone. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.320 Such a random, crazy thing for you to cover, and 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.679 it happens to be a super important movie to me. 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.160 Like Robert was saying, I was one of those kids 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.600 who had it on a recorded VHS, one possible difference 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.160 being that it was one of only maybe five or 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.200 six VHS tapes that I had, one of them being 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.760 Caravan of Courage. I was born in eighty two, so 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.320 the Ewoks movies fell perfectly into my wheelhouse. While I 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.880 was all but ignorant of the Star Wars movies themselves. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.800 I must have watched Battle for Indoor a hundred times, 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.120 but I didn't notice the reason why I am writing 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.480 you until recently. Passing the Ewoks movies onto my four 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:41.240 year old just this year was such a pleasure. I digress. 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.840 None of this is why I am writing. I have 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.240 a really cool little tidbit. See. I am not a 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.800 Star Wars fan by any real measure, even loving the 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.240 Walks and of course having seen all of the Star 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.600 Wars movies. I also live and grew up in Marin 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.760 in Lucas Valley, so I do not partake in the 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.440 meticulous Star Wars fandom. But I do have something that 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.680 I don't think many people have realized. Battle for Indoor 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.240 is special in that it is the only Star Wars 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.520 movie that I am aware of that contains a swear word. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.319 I lift it up before writing you, and fandom says fandom. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.640 I think they're referring to like the the Wikipedia realm quote. 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.800 A rumor circulated that Noah swears under his breath while 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.360 trying to power up his star Cruiser during the movie's climax. However, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.040 it was debunked in the eighty nine issue of the 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:31.200 Star Wars Insider magazine, which cites the subtitles of two 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.200 thousand four Walks the Battle for Indoor DVD release as 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.480 proving that the that the line is in fact, Ah, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.520 come on now, Just to be clear, the character know 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.400 what we're talking about, For a reminder, is played by 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.800 Wilford Brimley in the movie. Did we not mention that already? Uh? 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.040 We did not mention that in this listener, So imagine, yes, 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.000 it's it's Wilfred Brimley. Uh. And Wilfred Brimley is in 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.920 the scene like struggling with the controls of his spaceship 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:57.920 that's up on cinder blocks in his yard. He's trying 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.920 to get it going again. Yeah. I have to admit 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.680 when I watched it. There were a couple of times 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.120 when I kind of had this this feeling like I 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.920 feel like things are being said that are very close 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.240 to curse words, either things that are grumbled by Wilford 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.960 Brimley's character or things that you know, are yabbered by 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.280 e Walks. Then and then they're clearly you know, not 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.600 supposed to be um, you know, English or basic, but 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.680 but certainly sound a little cussy. You know, Wicket is 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.840 swearing up a storm, but you wouldn't know it. But 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.840 what Jesse is saying here is that it apparently the 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.000 Star Wars Insider magazine says no, Wilfred Brimley does not 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.800 swear in this movie. And it's based on the subtitles 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.720 from one DVD release of this which I did not 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.840 know there had been. They're not really readily available right now, 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.080 but there there was like a DVD double pack of these. Okay, 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.520 I see and what again? What they said Wilford Brimley's 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:58.040 actual line was was all come on, um. They continue. However, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.080 in the version I have you, and very clearly and 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.840 naturally hear him saying the F word in reaction to 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.640 the sparks. It's so funny because he's Wilfred Brimley. I 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.960 invite you to check the version you have at this 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.840 scene and decide for yourself. Though I could easily see 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.600 the DVD and subsequent releases being quote unquote fixed. I 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.880 am not sure this is a this is listener mail worthy, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:21.760 but I thought it was at the very least an 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:23.560 excuse to give you my thanks and tell you how 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.480 much YouTube can really mean to someone who doesn't always 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.720 have a good time. Please keep doing exactly what you 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.200 were doing, exactly the way you were doing it, forever 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.840 and ever. All my best and keep at it. Jesse ps. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.880 My favorite episodes are the Boltzman Brain episodes. Well, thanks 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.560 so much, Jesse. I really appreciate the kind words. And no, 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.120 this is absolutely listener mail worthy because we always want 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:50.080 to hear about Wilfred Brimley swearing in children's movies. It 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:51.760 also does seem like the kind of thing that if 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:55.080 they ever give this a proper, real, you know, remaster rerelease, 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.280 they're gonna edit it out and that's just get out 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.440 of here with that. Yeah. Um, but I do hope 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.880 they make it widely available again, because a lot of 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.680 us are nostalgic for this film and it's it's predecessor, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.119 and I think I think it should be out there. 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:12.480 I mean the same with other important Star Wars UM 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.879 pieces of media, such as um the original Clone Wars 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:21.560 animated version that came out prior to the computer animated version. 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.320 Like that's that's great fun, and it should be available 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.160 to people in formats that are not just random YouTube 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:31.840 uploads in my opinion. Uh. Somebody did right in and 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.840 mentioned the Star Wars Holiday special though, and I do 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.119 have to say I'm kind of I'm cool with that 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.159 one remaining lost. Uh for the most part, it's I 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.520 tried to rewatch it this year and my eyes were 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.479 bigger than my stomach on that one. We'll save it. 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:46.760 This is coming up in a in a couple of 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:48.960 males from now. Okay, okay, we'll talk about it then. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.640 Next one here from Eric. Eric says, Hey, Robert and Joe, 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.879 longtime listener, first time writing in. I wanted to chime 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:08.520 in on two recent topics. First, gravy. I was fascinated 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.960 by the gravy death ritual in the recent Turkey episode. 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:16.240 Robert mentioned not knowing of any religious ritual involving gravy, 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.560 but I think at least for myself. The making of 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.120 the gravy on Thanksgiving is a spiritual exercise in its 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.119 own right. This year, due to COVID nineteen, my wife 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.680 and I stayed home and didn't cook a whole turkey, 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.479 so I didn't get to perform my sacred duties. For 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:36.240 some good gravy is all about the giblets, meaning the liver, heart, kidneys, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.840 and gizzard, which reinforces Joe's point about gravy being the 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.120 essence of the animal it's made from. It's a celebration 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.119 of this awesome bird. Just like a good rare steak 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.959 can give you that primal zing up the back of 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.160 your brain stem, the organs of an animal can carry 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:55.040 the same effect, and that's why a true giblet gravy 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:59.680 is so good. Making gravy is a methodical, ritualistic process 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.159 with several steps that you have to time properly. It 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.159 can be stressful will there be enough juices? Do I 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.879 have enough time? Will the rue come out right? But 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.360 completing each step is a triumph leading to the transcendent 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:16.320 experience of the final product that literally parentheses figuratively uh 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.040 ties it all together. All the food on your plate 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.199 and all the people at your table, it can be 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.960 mind blowing. This is this is a great point. Okay, yeah, 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.480 I was just gonna say, I just a brief thought 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.159 here is that. Yeah, when food is meaningful, Like, there 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.320 are a few things like it. You know, like when 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.560 food doesn't have meaning, when it's just fast and and 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.600 you're you're not thinking about it and you're not like 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.360 really experiencing it, you know, that's one thing. But when 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.360 you when you do get to have this real attachment 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.520 to the organisms that you're consuming and to the practices 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.080 and the history of what's going into it. Yeah, there 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.159 there are a few things like it. Oh yeah, I 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.919 mean food. Food is obviously so much more than just 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.240 the experience of eating it, the taste and the nutrition 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:03.720 for your body. It's it's very, ah, a deeply interwoven cultural, 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.560 traditional thing. And this is why, like if you watch 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.879 recipe videos on the internet, you'll often see in the 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.920 comments people freaking out that somebody didn't do it right. 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.560 You know, like if if you want any Italian recipe 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.160 or something, people will be saying like, that's not how 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.919 you make that, saw us or something, And and you 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:25.080 get sense that it's because people's memories of the traditions 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.359 of their their their dishes are often tied up in 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:31.520 people's like family and cultural identity, to the point where 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.000 when somebody does it a different way, it almost feels 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:37.120 like a violation of some sacred ritual. You're not doing 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.640 it right, and this is a blasphemy. Okay, Eric goes 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.600 on before I lose it talking about gravy. Here's the 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.560 other thing. I loved Robert's postulating about the Force and 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:51.120 the lore of Ewok's Battle of Indoor. As a kid, 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:53.320 one of the things I loved about Star Wars was 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.440 that it was fantastic but believable. It felt real, tangible, 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:02.080 and immersive. Even the Force, essentially space magic, felt plausible. 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.480 So when I think of the Ewoks movie, the thing 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.200 I remember most was what my seven year old self 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.560 was thinking while seeing it. I laugh at how even 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.720 then I was really hung up on things feeling real 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:18.280 and believable. I remember taking issue with the horses of 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.679 all things, even with no established canon for what the 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.480 Force can do. I remember thinking that it was too 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.840 fantastic and magical, that it felt like an Earth movie, 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:33.880 shape shifting, magic, rings, turbo running, not in Star Wars. 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.760 And it may be a testament to the purity and 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:40.359 greatness of the original trilogy that even then, the style 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.280 and feel of Star Wars had permeated me so thoroughly 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.840 that my standards as a seven year old were really high. 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.600 Or maybe it's just a funny note on memory. We 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:55.240