1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Your work week is over. You know that you found 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: you're looking for. Well, listen to this kick back and 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: get the latest on the Colts in the NFL. This 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: is the Last Word, the offseason Home of the Colts 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor. Hello, got everyone had 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: a welcome to the Last Word. My name is Jeffrey Gorman. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Join weeknd and week out. Not really because I'm not here, 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: haven't been for a long time, for a few weeks. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: But Matt Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts. Thanks 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: for saving my rear end. How are you matey? Not really, No, 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: it's great to hear your voice, Jeffrey. It's good to 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: have you back, man, Good to have you back in 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: the saddle, at least for this Friday night. How are 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: you doing. Absolutely, It's a lot to talk about. And 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a fool today. And I want to 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: say that preliminary here because the way some things work 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL, who I work for and Matt Taylor 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: work for, our rule that you must follow and if 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: you don't follow those rules, you'll get dinged. Your owner 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: will get dinged with fines and whatnot. So my point 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: is this, matey, I can't talk about what everybody's talking 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: about in the first part of this show. And it's 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: simply the rumors out there started with Adam Schefter. I 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: call them rumors, but are they really If there is 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: something that happened official, it goes next week when the 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: paperwork is filed. So I simply and Matt Taylor simply 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: cannot talk about the latest transaction rumor quote unquote with 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: some air quotes that are out there. But we will, 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: but we will when it officially happens. Matt, I gotta 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: be transparent and blanket this thing. It sounds idiotic. You 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: guys can yell at me on it. You can laugh 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: at me on it though, but I'm just gonna save 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: myself and er say some money. We read about it, 34 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: We heard about it. Yeah, yeah, it's It's one of 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: those things. It is what it is. Can't publicly discuss 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: anything before it is official. On March the sixteenth, I'm 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: getting out my lawyer of vo here. That's next Wednesday, 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: the start of the new league year. Once that happens, 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: we'll go full bar just like everybody. We'll have so 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: much fun left on the show, even though they're not 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: talking about the biggest news story that's happened here in 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: quite a while. But let's continue on with it, Mattey, 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: because I gotta I gotta find this out. The NFL 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: the offseason, it's here. We've seen what's happening here, people 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: moving places, everything like that. Russ Wilson included, we just 46 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: had the scouting combine in Indy next week. Like I said, 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: free agency start teams are allowed to contact and negotiate 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: with unrestricted free agents maytey on Monday and guys with 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: the expiring contracts, and then on Wednesday that new league 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: year becomes and that's when the fireworks happen. There's a 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: lot of big time transactions and moves that are going 52 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: on in the NFL, but it's happening Wednesday. Wednesday. We 53 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: know what happened last while a couple of days ago, 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: Maytay Jack Doyle says, I'm gonna hang up the cleats. 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm done. What a career. The kid from Cathedral, Western Kentucky, 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: the tight end. Before we get into some of our 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: own free agents, let's talk about Jack Doyle for a second. 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Jack Doyle is one of my favorite cults of all 59 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: time because he epitomized class, hard work, dedication. I mean, 60 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: he's a great teammate. He just did his job and 61 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: he performed at an incredibly high level. I mean, he's 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: just a great football player that took his job very seriously. 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: He did whatever role was needed for him that particular day, 64 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: and he got better every year in the NFL. I 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: mean those first couple of years, I mean he's trying 66 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: to stay in the league. He was an undrafted guy. 67 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: He's trying to make the roster. He's scratching and claw 68 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: and he's playing on special teams. He's playing more and 69 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: more on the offense. And then he turns into a 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player. He outlasts two guys drafted a year 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: in front of him, guys like Kobe Fleaner and Dwayne Allen. 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: He answered the bell every year. I mean, he appeared 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: in at least fourteen games and eight of his nine seasons, 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: so durability, but yeah, he didn't miss games though. I mean, 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: so he's just revered by everybody across multiple eras of 76 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,279 Speaker 1: colts football. He had two head coaches, three offensive coordinators, 77 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: eat eleven different quarterbacks, and yes, he just persevered through 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: all of that and he's top five among tight ends 79 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: in franchise history when it comes to catches, receiving yards, touchdowns. 80 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's hyperbole. I think it's one 81 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: of the greatest cults careers of at least the last decade. 82 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: And we will have Jack Doyle on this show and 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: other shows. You can find out more information at colts 84 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: dot com in the upcoming in the upcoming weeks. To 85 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: just go over his career, mate, I'm telling you only 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: trailing Dallas Clark with receptions from a tight end. He's 87 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: got two ninety five in his career. Dallas Clark, by 88 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: the way, at four to twenty seven, I'll ridiculous. Is 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty seven? Good for you, Dallas, but 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: even better for Jack Doyle because this guy's a Colt, 91 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: this guy's a hometown. This guy's a story that we 92 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: could see on Lifetime or you know ESPN presents something 93 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: like that. As far as you know small town boy playing, 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, like he talked about I remember he said 95 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: he was one of the best street football players in 96 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: Indianapolis for his age growing up, because that's all they 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: did anytime. It didn't matter. There are snow on the 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: ground or it was ninety degrees. They're always playing football. 99 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the kind of guy he is. Jack 100 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Doyle shut up and he showed up. And that's it, man. 101 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: He went to a bunch of head coaches, like you said, 102 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of turnover at the quarterback position, but just 103 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: showed up and gained the respect to the locker room. 104 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: So Jack Doyle, you deserve a whole show dedicated to you. 105 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: But we will down the road bring him on and 106 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, get his thoughts on what it was like 107 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: to be a Colton and his career and his trajectory 108 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: into the NFL. Great story, So matey, would that being said, 109 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean a great segue into free agency? Are we top? 110 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: Are we looking at anybody possibly in the tight end 111 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: position as far as people that are out there floating 112 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: around because there is free agency coming up, there's a 113 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: lot of money to spend. There's going to be a 114 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: lot of money to spend on free agents. That doesn't 115 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: necessarily mean that Chris Ballard will do it, but refilling 116 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: the position room of the tight end and I know 117 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: we've got a couple of good ones there right now. 118 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: But you know, Jack Doyle retiring it's a huge dagger. 119 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: It is, so I think, you know, taking get bigger picture, 120 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: I think you know, if you talk about position groups 121 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 1: that the Colts will be targeting on the open market, 122 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: I think definitely tight end. I think definitely wide receiver. 123 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: I think anything dealing with the passing game, pass catchers. 124 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: You know, the wide receiver group outside of Michael Pittman 125 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: had a hard time making a big impact. I mean, 126 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Pittman's the only wide out under contract who's played in 127 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: more than thirty career games with at least thirty catches. 128 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: And Frank Reich said last week of the combine that 129 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: he thinks somebody in that young core of receivers can 130 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: step up next season and be a legitimate part of 131 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: the offense like Ashton Doolan or Mike Stron or Desmond Patman. 132 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: You know, free agency at the wide receiver group, it's 133 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: interesting because you've got some interesting names. Alan Robinson, DJ Chark, 134 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper might be out there. Plus two, the draft 135 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: is once again loaded the wide receiver at tight end. 136 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: It's I think it's an even bigger need now that 137 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: Jack Doyle has retired Moiley Cox as a free agent, 138 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 1: I think he's got a decent shot at coming back. 139 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: You've got Kyl and Granson. He only eleven catches last season. 140 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: If you look at the tight end group last year, 141 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Jeffrey tight ends for the Colts just sixty four catches 142 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: on the season. That was the fewest for that position 143 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: group for the Colts since twenty thirteen. So the good 144 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: news is the draft. About it in the NFL, Maddie, 145 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: How about it in the NFL? Think about that? If 146 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: they had sixty four from their tight ends, I'm curious 147 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: where that ranks overall in an NFL offense. You know 148 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: what I mean? It doesn't sound like a you know, 149 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of froze to these guys. 150 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: That Yeah, that's that's three guys combining for sixty four 151 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: catches through seventeen games. So draft is pretty deep. And 152 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: then you've got free agency. You know, you've got some 153 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: intriguing names there. Ertz Uzama from the Bengals, Dalton Schultz, 154 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: Tyler Conklin so wide receiver, tight end. I think those 155 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: two positions need some attention this offseason. Matt Taylor voice 156 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: and the Colts were cutting a break pretty soon. But 157 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: before we do, and we're bringing back a former cold 158 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champion by the way, we're going to 159 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: talk to and the newest member on the Colts coaching 160 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: staff is coming up in a minute. I'm not even 161 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna say who it is. I'm just gonna leave it 162 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: at a tease. But mate, before we go free agency 163 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: next Wednesday, give me something even have fun with it 164 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: if you would. What's any bold predictions out there? Big 165 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: names coming to the Golds? Go ahead, have fun? Well, 166 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: I talked about the passing game. Um, I don't I 167 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: don't know if this is bold enough, but I think 168 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: the Colts will be relatively aggressive and bringing in a 169 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: free agent pass rusher and a left tackle. Um. I 170 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: think the left tackle speaks for itself because, as we 171 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: found out this week, Eric Fisher Um, according to reports, 172 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: is going to test the open market. And you watch yourself. Maytae, 173 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: here we go again. Okay, lead, wasn't that wasn't a move. 174 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: That wasn't a move. That's just that's just floating out there. Um. So, 175 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: so that's that's in question. Plus you don't have a 176 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: first round pick to address that position. Um. And then 177 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: with edge rusher, Chris Ballard said after the season that 178 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they needed a guy last season. You know, 179 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: they relied on a committee approach to get pressures at 180 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: times time in their front four pass rush. Again, at 181 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: times just just couldn't get it done, especially late in games. 182 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: So I think the Colts needs someone to help bring 183 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: along in real time and compliment QUITTI pay and die. 184 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: You a dang Bo plus Kamoka, Terrey Taykwon, Lewis, al 185 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: KaDee Muhammad. Guys are all free agents. So part of 186 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: that committee approach that you use last season is not 187 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: coming back next season or has the potential to not 188 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: come back. So I think the Colts need a proven 189 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: veteran that can produce on the field, but also helps 190 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: speed along the development of your long term pieces that 191 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: you're going to count on in the future. Pay a 192 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: dang Bo who you drafted last last off season. Absolutely. Hey, 193 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: it's a tough, tough time of year for a lot 194 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: of these gms out there. A lot can happen anyway. 195 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: It's a fun time of year, and next Wednesday is 196 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: when it all goes down. Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. 197 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm Jeffrey Gorman. This is the last word. When we 198 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: come back Mattey is going to sit down with one 199 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: of my favorite all time Colts and it's well, it 200 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: starts because he went to Michigan and played good foot 201 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: ball up there. But we're talking about Kato June and Kato, 202 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: the former Colts linebacker is here. He's going to discuss 203 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: joining Gus Bradley's staff and his thoughts on the ceilings 204 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: for guys like Bobby o'cuque, assistant Lackers coach. Now right, awesome, yes, yes, 205 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard, he is the assistant linebackers coach of your Colts. 206 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: I love the guy. I love what he brings into 207 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: a locker room. He's always positive, he's athletic, he's talented. 208 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: He did it. He wears a ring on his fingers, 209 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: so he knows what it takes. I love the hire. 210 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: Coming back on the Last Word, Matt Taylor sits down 211 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: with Kato June. Right after this ninety three five one 212 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: oh seven five the fans built him back to the 213 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: Last Word The Offseason Radio Home of the Colts with 214 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor from the Power Home Solar 215 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: Radio Studio. Welcome back to the Last Word. We're brought 216 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: to you by our friends at fan Duel Sports Book, 217 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: down Low, the app today make every moment more. That 218 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: is the Rolling Stones, I believe is that what I 219 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: just heard and count loving cuff for you on a Friday. 220 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: It's a deep track, Dude. I like that. You pull 221 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: that up. People be ready for this. People talk about 222 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: JMB and being a great guy who spend songs on 223 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: Saturday Night. If you took the time and had the interest, matey, 224 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: you would rival JMB on a Saturday night blowout when 225 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: it comes to, uh, you know, great five hour radio 226 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: blocks getting people excited for a Saturday night. Mate knows 227 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: a thing or two about some songs. I can go deep. 228 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: I can go deep. Now. What John has going for 229 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: him is he's got full intelligent knowledge of eighties and nineties, 230 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: which which those are two decades I completely glossed over 231 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: in terms of music. But if you like sixties and seventies, 232 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I got a five hour radio show for you, There's 233 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: no question about that. Matt Taylor sits and talks Eric 234 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: Burden and War at six o'clock to coming up his podcast, 235 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: It's the Animals. Matt Taylor's podcast is that I've Got 236 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: the Rascals followed by the Young Rascals. Yes and special 237 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: with Paul Revere and the Raiders, Tonight with Matt Taylor. 238 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: All right, listen, let's get on the cato June okay, 239 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: because the Big MAT's coming in a little green Onions. 240 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: Booker T and the MG's first Jeffrey Hut Night only 241 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: music nerds were Nomember Duck Done, the bass player. He 242 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: was in the Blues Brothers band. You've seen him. He 243 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: was in the Booker T and the MG's Duck Done. Gosh, 244 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: you're pulling out stuff. I love Mattie. Good call, always 245 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: getting the great hits for Matt Taylor to the voice 246 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: of the Colts. Listen. 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You can 255 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: get it on the Colts mobile app in the Colts 256 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: Audio Network anywhere you download your podcast. Earlier this week, 257 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: not too long ago, at our Guy voicing the Coach 258 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: and JJ stank Abits from Colts dot Com sat down 259 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: with former coach, super Bowl winning linebacker and coach assistant 260 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: linebacker coach Kato June. He is back. Jude starts off 261 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: discussing how the opportunity to join the Colts came about 262 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: for him, and we got a good one here in 263 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Kato June. You know what I think about it, Like, 264 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: guys plan right, So people always ask me, hey, do 265 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: you want to coach in the NFL? And you know, 266 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: initially I say, hey, I would. I would definitely, you know, 267 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: take the opportunity because I've never done it, right, so, uh, 268 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: coaching high school, coaching college, um, you know, now having 269 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: the want to say, hey, I want to go ahead 270 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: and take that next step. Did the internship a few 271 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: times a couple of different places, actually twice here once 272 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: in Detroit. And then you know, it was funny because 273 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: David Thornton's been here and I'm always you know, we 274 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: always talked back and forth and and you know I 275 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: shot him at text. I'm like, hey, man, you guys, 276 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: are you know I saw you know, episode was leaving 277 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: and you know, just you just never know. I'm just 278 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: shooting them a text. We're just talking about that, and 279 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: then i see, uh, Gus Bradley gets high. I'm like, oh, snap, 280 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: man said so I said, I said. I literally sent 281 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: Gus a message like, uh, you know, because I didn't know, 282 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: you know, it was reports, so he may and may not. 283 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you're gonna look good in Coach Blue, 284 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, man, I'm I'm ready when you know, when 285 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: when you know I'm ready that it was something something 286 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: like that and whatever the pieces came together, however it was. 287 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: And DT hit me back and say, hey, you might 288 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: get a call from Frank. I'm like, huh. So I'm like, okay, cool. 289 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: So now I'm all excited and wife is excited. You know, 290 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to interview and do all that, and 291 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, here I am man. It's it's it's like 292 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: I said, it's it's guy's plan. It's nothing that I 293 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: did individually. It's just how you know things are we're 294 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be written. Well, because you go back with Gus, 295 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: he was your linebackers coach in Tampa. Right, absolutely, he was. 296 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: He was my linebackers coach. Because it was funny because 297 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: I was texting Alan Williams before they left. I'm like, 298 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know if he was gonna get 299 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be the coordinator. That sort of thing, 300 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, just just you know, being a curry because 301 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: you just never know a lot of times in the 302 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: coaching profession, when you know, when your coach leaves, your 303 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: head coach or your coordinator, you just you don't know 304 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: what's next, and that that uncertainty can be you know, 305 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: a little unsettling, you know, and sometimes when people reaching 306 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: out to say that they're there for you whatever, you 307 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: just never know. So I mean, that conversation kind of happened, 308 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: and then Gus Bradley, I'm like, oh wow, you know, 309 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: just and that would be awesome because literally, what maybe 310 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: a year ago, two years ago, I'm like, hey, man, 311 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: when I get an opportunity, I would love to work 312 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: for you, you you know, and he would, Man, that would 313 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: be awesome. And then kind of here we are. Now, 314 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: what do you remember about Gus When you guys were 315 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: together in Tampa it was, you know, fifteen years ago, 316 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: and what excites you about getting to work with him 317 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: here now, man, it what excites me the most is 318 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: that he's probably one of the best people you're gonna 319 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: be around. And his energy and passion for people is unmatched. 320 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: And he has a very very unique way of teaching 321 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: and and he does a great job with connecting, so 322 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: that that part of me as a player, I just 323 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: I felt like a rookie again when I went there, 324 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, this is awesome because it 325 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: was just different. It was a total different and it 326 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: gave me a different perspective, like you don't have to 327 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: coach this one way. You know, you can coach in 328 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: whoever you are, and that's who we are, That's who 329 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: he is as a person. So I'm like, yo, this 330 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: is just his authentic self and you know who he 331 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: is and how he operates so and he cares about people, 332 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: and it's being able to pour the people. I took 333 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: a lot from actually playing, you know, for him, and 334 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: now have an opportunity to coach with him. I'm just 335 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: gonna be sitting there right down, like, Okay, this is 336 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that like that just because 337 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: you know he has that ability to connect and he 338 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: does a great job telling stories and painting a picture 339 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: so you can can you visualize it. So that's helpful 340 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways when you're talking about teaching 341 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: and coaching. That's Cato June, former Coats linebacker. He's the 342 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: assistant linebackers coach for the Indianapolis Colts. Take me back 343 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: when you're playing days were over. How did you know 344 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: you had the coaching bug or did it happen before 345 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: your career ended. Well, I always knew I wanted to 346 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: work with kids and give back in that capacity, So 347 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: coaching was a natural transition, and I think it was 348 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: more therapeutic at the time than anything. Because you know, 349 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: when the lights go off, a lot of guys go dark. 350 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: A lot of guys you know, you just don't hear 351 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: from them and have a hard time accepting that. You 352 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: have a hard time transitioning you do. And because you 353 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: think about it like it's almost like a piece of 354 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: you dies. You know, you've done something for your entire 355 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: life and bam, it's over like that. So how do 356 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: you replace that passion and energy, that drive that you've 357 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: used for your entire life? You know to continue you know, living, 358 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: And that's that's where it was for me. So I 359 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: went back and I was the you know, the head 360 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: coach and a d at my high school that I 361 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: went to, which is once again one of those full 362 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: circle moments. So it's like, this is awesome. I have, 363 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully something to give this group of kids 364 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: and the people that I'm around, and hopefully I can 365 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: impact you know, some of the young coaches and coaches 366 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: that were on my staff. And that's kind of what why. 367 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: That was my why at the time. You know, Hey, 368 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: I just want to I want to pour into people 369 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: and you know, pouring to these kids, point into community 370 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: and hopefully at some point, you know, things will you know, yeah, 371 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: figuring themselves out. And that that was my initial you 372 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: know purpose. I'm interested in this because you have played 373 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: at all three levels, right high school, college, the NFL 374 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: with the colts. You've coached at all three levels now 375 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: as well, how do you go about talking to guys 376 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: or coaching guys differently at different levels? Like what can 377 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: you do with a college player that you can't do 378 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: with an NFL player and vice versa, just because of 379 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: the different levels. I mean, you're talking about professional athletes 380 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: and guys that are getting paid millions of dollars that 381 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: are professionals that have already reached this level in the NFL. 382 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: How can you talk to them differently to kind of 383 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: get your point across. I think that what I learned 384 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: most coaching high school football is that everyone needs different things. 385 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: Everyone is at different levels. And the hardest thing at 386 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: the high school levels because you have a maybe hopefully 387 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: a couple of guys that are really good man, I 388 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: can do some things different, and you have some other 389 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: guys that are awful, you know, they're just not you know, 390 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: talented athletically, so you have to find different ways to 391 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: reach all those different people the same. But I really 392 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: feel like this is just my coaching philosophy is that 393 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: if you start with love like and when I say 394 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: love meaning love your neighbor, love, passion, love energy, like 395 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: just just you're just giving love and being who you are. 396 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: Those two things for me is like love and authenticity. 397 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: Just be who you are and not be somebody to 398 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: try to be somebody else or not. People automatically will 399 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: will gravitate to that and they will pre that, and 400 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: kids love it like they be like, look, this is 401 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: who it is, whoever it is, whoever that person is 402 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: you'll just be who you are, um and then if 403 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: you can show love and you can give love, because 404 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're called to do that. So it's like, 405 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: can I give these people you know, something you know 406 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: and not expect nothing in return? This is this is 407 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: what it's about. And and it just happens to be 408 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: through football, you know, and how I'm teaching, and you 409 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: just find different ways to to to reach and talk 410 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: to people. With regards to college and pro guys, the 411 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: difference is guys in college, it just it's a lot 412 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: more fundamental based teaching stuff. To me, Like, you know, 413 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: you're I always choose to tell me my colleague be 414 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: like whoa you know, you see, yeah, they're pros and 415 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: they have elite athleticism, and that's hard to tell them 416 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: because a lot of those guys are not gonna be 417 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: that elite athlete. They have elite traits, you know, and 418 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: they can get away with doing certain things and I 419 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: think that's that's where the difference is and they appreciate 420 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: it over time. But you know it's you. Yeah, yeah, 421 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: it's a little tough love. But once again, if you 422 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: if you leave with love, then then I don't think 423 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: you can ever be wrong. So you you're talking about 424 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: elite traits. You're gonna coach you guy who's got some 425 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: elite traits in Darius Leonard. And it's funny, Kato. It's 426 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: talking to Robert Mathis a couple weeks ago, and I 427 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: was like, so, what do you think, Akato. He's like, 428 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna help Darius get two more turnovers a year. 429 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, right, like Darius had like fifteen 430 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: turnovers last year, let's get twenty. There you go, that 431 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: seems like a good goal. Um, what do you think 432 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: of Darius and just the skill set he has? In 433 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: the other part of it is, I know you you 434 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: had a little bit of time with Peanut Tillman in Chicago. 435 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: How similar are they in that like knack of getting 436 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: the ball out? Now one's being taught and if you 437 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: understand the ball is the game. It's real simple. Hey, 438 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find any way to disrupt the football. And 439 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: he does an awesome and excellent job of you know, 440 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: one having a knack for seeing the ball and taking 441 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: the ball away and and defensively to me, you know, 442 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: always philosophy was always scoring, get the ball back. So 443 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: it's like, how can I get the ball back? Let's 444 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: go score and he does them both. So like it's 445 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: it's it's fun to watch and you know, just you know, 446 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: when you think about it, it's say, how can I 447 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: continue to improve? It's just like anything else, this guy 448 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: does a great job of this. Hey, let's let's try 449 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: to you know, take it to the next level and 450 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: be more efficient, any more effective across the board and 451 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: not just say, hey, I'm just gonna go attack the 452 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: ball like you know, maybe being you know, more strategic 453 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: and when you do it, and because a lot of 454 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: times if like say, for instance, when when we were 455 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: playing like and I'm playing cover too, if I if 456 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm jumping all these routes and only concerned about trying 457 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: to get an interception, I'm leaving the safeties to somebody 458 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: out to dry. So just understanding, hey, making my plays 459 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: within the confines of the defense, and I think it will, 460 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, over time, and not just speaking to him, 461 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: just in general, like over time it will make you 462 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: a more efficient any more effective player. You'll still make 463 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: the plays that you're supposed to make, you know, but 464 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: at the same time, now you're not leaving somebody else 465 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: to dry or you know, creating holes in the defense. 466 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: That's what sometimes when that aggressive mentality, people can kind 467 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: of you know, go oval board when you're just trying 468 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: to make a play as opposed to say, hey make 469 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: the plays they say, you catch the ones that go 470 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: to you lead the league. So it's not that many 471 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: opportunities you think was somebody lead to lead with ten 472 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: twelve and the seven that's twelve plays in six seven 473 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: hundred snaps. Yeah, I mean when you put it in perspective, 474 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not a lot. That's Cato Jude, 475 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: assistant linebackers coach for the Colts. I mean, where is 476 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: that for these linebackers? Great linebackers, Darius Leonard, Bobby okaraka 477 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: Darius is great already. But I mean, obviously everybody can grow, 478 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: everybody can get better. Certainly, it's going to be in 479 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: subtle areas. For those guys. You've evaluated them on tape 480 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: a little bit, what's their seeing How much better can 481 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: those guys be from where they already are? You know, 482 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: when you look at it, I'll take an excuse example, 483 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: and my example is I had the great fortune to 484 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: play with some of the greatest players at their position 485 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: of all time. And you know, and I don't say 486 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: that loosely or take it lightly. It is this fact, 487 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: you know. I mean Peyton is one of the greatest 488 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: number eighteen. Yeah, that guy Derek Brooks is one of 489 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: the greatest play like they have for Jackets, Marvin Harris, 490 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: like all these people I'm looking up, They're like, wow, 491 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: they have all these accolades. What was the similarities about them? 492 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: It was, Hey, I'm a great player, great, but how 493 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: can I get better? Give you example, It's true, true story. 494 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: My first year in Tampa went down. We're going over 495 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: over Pirate Too, our most simplistic defense. He then saw 496 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: it for you know, thirteen straight years in money kiffing together, 497 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: same defense, same everything. He's in his notebook, right notes, 498 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: And I'm just looking at him like and you already 499 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: know this, you know it, but I'm watching him. I'm like, okay. 500 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: So I asked him, I saying, man, what notes are 501 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: you taking on over Pirate too? Like, hey man, it's 502 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: always something that you can get out of, never feel 503 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: like you got it. So I'm like I took that way. 504 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: I look at it. I'm like, man, I'm looking at 505 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: this guy who's gonna be a Hall of Famer, you know, 506 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: and probably at the latter part of his career, he's 507 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: still taking those he's still trying to get better. And 508 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: if you can instill that approach to a young player, 509 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, you'll look up year nine, ten, it's still 510 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: making the same plays and they're still having success when 511 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: your body, you know, starts to deteriorate, because it will 512 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: and and now your mind is you know, kind of 513 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: made up the difference of what your body was used 514 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: to be able to get away with and athletically do. 515 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: So I think that's you know, that's kind of my approach. 516 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: That's what I you know, want to bring into say, hey, 517 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: this is how you take this approach, and you know, 518 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: hopefully that will be something that will help a great player, 519 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, sustain his greatness. That's something we were talking 520 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: to Mike Mitchell about, you know, he's joining the coaching 521 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: staff as the assistant defensive backs coach, about how just 522 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: that kind of game within the game, situational football and 523 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: knowing what the other team can do in these certain situations. 524 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: And then he said that was something that extended his career, 525 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, by a number of years when you look 526 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: at the young talent in this room, Um, you know 527 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: already guys who have that stuff you know, sort of 528 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: down like you know Darius and Bobby. But when you 529 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: think about what they can do, is they continue to grow, 530 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, And that story about Derek Brooks, I think 531 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: is just such a great example. What you know, is 532 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: the sky the limit for these guys as they continue 533 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: to grow. Absolutely, Because I mean, one you have to, 534 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: like I said, we talked about elite traits, you know, 535 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: and they have those, and now it's like, can we 536 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: turn these elite traits into elite habits? And now this 537 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: these elite habits will or will sustain you over over time, 538 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, And that's what it's about, Like how you know, 539 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: how long can I do something great and continue to 540 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: do it great and not get bored and not get 541 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, tired, and not understand thinking that, hey, I've arrived, 542 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: I've reached this pinnacle. Like let's just keep pushing, Let's 543 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: let's keep Hey what you look at a guy like 544 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's like, man, he won three Super Bowls, were 545 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: doing around four, one, five, Let's look like can I 546 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: win another one? And that's I think that's the different mindset. 547 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: When you see these elite athletes to Kobe Bryant or Jordan's, 548 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: those type of guys, they have the mindset that you 549 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: know the next one is the best one. You know 550 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: it's never enough. So that's those are the elite habits 551 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: that I'm trying to you know I'm talking about and 552 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you can try to, you know, cultivate that, 553 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: that's where you trying to take it to the next level. 554 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: Last one, coach Kato June is with US assistant linebackers 555 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: coach for the Indianapolis Colts, also a former Colts linebacker. 556 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: With that being said, do you think it's important to 557 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: have playing credentials as a coach. I mean, obviously great 558 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: coaches come in all forms and sizes and different backgrounds. 559 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: But my point is you are all pro player, Pro 560 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: Bowl guy. You want a Super Bowl? I mean you 561 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: can go. You can you can look at Darius Leonard, 562 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: you can look at Bobby o'karaka um and you know 563 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: these other linebackers EJ Speed and say, guys, I know 564 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: what it takes to be great in this league. I've 565 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: performed at a high leve, I've won a championship. How 566 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: important is that for a coach to have those credentials? Um, 567 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean you can put on your tape and say, guys, 568 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: I made plays in this league. Well, well, my approach 569 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: was slightly different. And once again because I started on 570 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: a high school level, Um, I never wanted it to 571 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: be about me. You know. So yes I do have 572 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, those credentials coming into it. But they know that. 573 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: So it's like and if they don't know it cool, 574 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because a lot of times in 575 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: college guys were like, coach, I ain't know you. You 576 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: can play on YouTube. Bro. Yeah, I'm like, I mean 577 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: it's cool, Like I'm not here for that. I'm trying 578 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: to help you get better, you know. So it's not 579 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: about me. It's not about what I've done, but it 580 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: does give you credibility. And the unique thing is it's like, Okay, 581 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: I've been in that situation, so I understand you know, 582 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: the whole transformation from all right, this is the board 583 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: to the field, and you understand sometimes that is not 584 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: a coach. I don't. I don't think we should do 585 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: it this way because you know, and I get it, like, hey, 586 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: I've been there, and I think that's where maybe some 587 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: of those things come into play. But you know, when 588 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: you look at it, I like I said, I never 589 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: wanted to be about me, but it does give you, 590 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, the background, and LI said, it'll start the conversation. 591 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: Now you still have to come with some content and 592 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: information because at the end of the day, can you teach? 593 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Can you tell get these guys to do what you 594 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: want to do, motivate them and become better players. It 595 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: is more important than what you used to do back 596 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: in the Stone Age. Come on, hey, two thousand and 597 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and five, two thousand and six, it's not 598 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: that long ago. It says. Those are some great teams, 599 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: there's no question about that. Kato June, assistant linebackers coach 600 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: for the Colts, former linebacker. Man, it's so great to 601 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: see you again. It is so great to have you 602 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: on this staff. And best of luck going forward. Thanks Man, 603 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you Kato June, Thank you JJ 604 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: Snakovitz and Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. I like 605 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: the guy. I even like him or because he played 606 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: his football nan Arbor Maytay and he rolled over your 607 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: IU Hoosiers when he was there. Well, he may have 608 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what Michigan did not do yesterday 609 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: over the Indiana Hoosiers. That is protect a seventeen point 610 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: lead in the Big Ten Tournament. So Matt Taylor here 611 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: to kick to kick all Michigan fans right in the grapes, 612 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: just to bring him down a level. Good call, hey, 613 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: right in the grapes. Right. Anyway, we got a little 614 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: snow on the ground, basketballs around. But we're talking football, 615 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: and after we take a time out here, we're giving 616 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: you the Forum Credit Union Question of the Week with 617 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor regarding Jack Doyle's long jevity, and we're gonna 618 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: talk about Aaron Rodgers. He's staying put in Green Bay. 619 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson to the Mile High. I mean, what is 620 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: going We got a lot to talk about. There's a 621 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: whole lot going on the AFC, Matt Taylor, Boys of 622 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: the Colts. My name's Jeffrey Goreman, and we will be 623 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: back here at ninety three five and one oh seven 624 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: five to fan with the Last Word. Welcome back to 625 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: the Last Word, the Offseason Radio Home of the Colts 626 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor from the Power Home 627 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: Soar Radio studio. Welcome back to the last word. Matt 628 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Taylor spinning the dunes. We talked about it earlier. That's Chicago, 629 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: right there, Mattaye, that's Chicago, Chicago with the brass. Slowdown. Absolutely, 630 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: there's there's good Chicago, Jeffrey, and then there's not so 631 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: good Chicago. And it's cleared it to find the line 632 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: of demarcation between the two. If you get I like 633 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: it that and you're talking brass, I'm gonna start calling 634 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: you horns. Horns, Taylor, easy horns. I love it. May 635 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: taste can roll with some brass. There it is. Colts 636 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: have teamed up with Anthem, Blue Cross and Blue Shield 637 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: to recognized school teachers, administrators, nurse and staff members who 638 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: go above and beyond for their student schools and communities. 639 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: Nominate your classroom quarterback today. I like that classroom quarterback. 640 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: You can nominate your classroom quarterback today Colts dot com 641 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: slash classroom Quarterbacks. I can't say it easy for you 642 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: to say. I know I can't say it, but I 643 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: love the way it sounds. I'm a classroom quarterback. Pretty good. 644 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: How about this foreign credit Union question of the week. 645 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: Let's honor the man from Cathedral Jack Doyle, and in 646 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: his retirement from the NFL, we're going to talk about 647 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: his longevity as an undrafted free agent from Western Kentucky, 648 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: the Hilltoppers down in Bowling Green. There were sixteen tight 649 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: ends drafted mate in two thirteen. Sixteen of them when 650 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: Doyle came out of college. All right, he wasn't one 651 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: of them. Only three remain in the NFL today. Okay, 652 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: this is a great one. This is great. Listen to 653 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: me again. Sixteen tight ends drafted in twenty thirteen. That's 654 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: Jack Doyle the same year he came out as an 655 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. There's only three of them that remain 656 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL. To eight. But who are those three 657 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: that are still around? Mate? I only I think I 658 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: only know one of them. It wasn't Travis Kelsey twenty thirteen. 659 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: He was, And that's the one that got me. I 660 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: did not think so. I was thinking Kelsey was fifteen. 661 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: I thought he was younger than he is something like that, 662 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: not sixteen. But I did not put Travis Kelsey on 663 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: this list. But he sure is. And I think Travis 664 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: Kelsey was a third round guy, which means there's probably 665 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: a handful of it ends that went before he did, 666 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: which is absolutely Chris. What did Gronco in the draft? 667 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: That was Gronco a late first or was Grock Like, yeah, 668 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: he was at least he was at least a second. 669 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: I know he wasn't a first round pick. So Travis 670 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Kelsey has one, Zach Ertz currently a free agent, he's two, 671 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: and Tyler Eiffort. Tyler Eiffort still hanging your Yeah, he's 672 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: currently a free agent looking to play some football. So 673 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: that's a good pull right there. Hats off, tip of 674 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: the cap, anything backslapped, big hug all of the above. 675 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: To Jack Doyle, thanks for doing what you do. It 676 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: was fun watching you work, young man, because that guy 677 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: just showed up and said, Hey, I'm here to play 678 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: football and I'm here to be a What I liked 679 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: about him is he wasn't a big raw rock guy, 680 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: didn't talk. He led by example. Asked t Hy Hilton, 681 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: who's a guy who's got it, had an incredible career. 682 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: What Jack Doyle meant to him? And I'll tell you what, 683 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes less is more. Sometimes you say less and you 684 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: get more from your teammates around him. That that was 685 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: Jack Doyle, Matt Taylor. That was Jack Doyle. Actions speak 686 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: way louder than words and good stuff. Man. Jack just 687 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: brought it, man. And I think the highest compliment that 688 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: you can give anybody is they are just a pro. 689 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: The guy just handled himself as a pro and first 690 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: class manner. And again, Jack Doyle's one of my favorite 691 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: cults of all time. There's no question about that. I'm 692 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: gonna dig in. We're gonna have Jack Doyle on this 693 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: show right now. Find out what's going on. But anyway, 694 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: tip of the cap to you, Bud, good stuff for 695 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: Jack Doyle. Let's close out this show. It is the 696 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: grab Bag. It's time for the NFL grab Bag and 697 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: a sort of look at what's going on in the NFL. 698 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: NFL grab Bag brought to you by our friends at 699 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: Meyer Meyer, the official supercenter of the Indianapolis Colts, proud 700 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: sponsor of hundreds of local sports teams across the Midwest. 701 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: May Tay, let's talk some quarterbacks, but by all means, 702 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: don't talk about any quarterback here in Indianapolis because it's illegal. 703 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: But right now we could talk about a couple of 704 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: other rumors that are out there, because again I don't 705 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: know if it's true or not. Matt Is Russell Wilson 706 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: definitely going to Denver. And if he is, what do 707 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: you think, because that's a haul both ways. I mean, 708 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: you are spending some capital to get Russell Wilson in 709 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: Denver Cy. Yeah, so if it does, you know, pan 710 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: out that way. If you just look at I mean 711 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: the Broncos and the AFC West, I mean they're going 712 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: to be competing with the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, the 713 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: Chargers with Justin Herbert, and the Raiders with Derek car 714 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: at the moment, Derek Carry. So if you look at 715 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: the AFC, I mean, obviously the AFC West is going 716 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: to be a gauntlet. And oh, by the way, the 717 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: Colts have to play the AFC West coming up next season. 718 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: But with Wilson now in Denver, you look at the 719 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: amount of playoff contenders in the a f C, I 720 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: count twelve. I count twelve, Jeffrey, including the Colts. They 721 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: were close last year. I count anybody that was closed 722 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: last year. To me, I'd like to get your thoughts 723 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: on this as well. To me, the only teams that 724 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: I don't think have a chance to make the playoffs 725 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: as of right now in the AFC and Obviously a 726 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: million things can change because it's March, so it's kind 727 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: of silly to have this conversation, But here we are. Anyways. 728 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: The only thing, the only teams I think that are 729 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: gonna have a difficult time making the playoffs. You've got 730 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, the Texans, the Jets, and the Steelers, and 731 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: even then depending on what happens with this quarterback. So 732 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: what I'm just saying this is going to be the 733 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: most parity filled conference I think any of us have 734 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: ever seen. Every game's gonna have enormous significance next season 735 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: inside the AFC. Ten teams won at least nine games 736 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: the AFC last year, and there could be more, you know, 737 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: given the fact that now Russell Wilson is playing with 738 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: the Denver bronklis Right, you're not slapping around Pittsburgh because 739 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: of the quarterback situation in Ben Roethlisberger, are you. I 740 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: put it in parentheses, I said, depending on what happens 741 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: with him at quarterback. But as of right now, the 742 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: Steelers I think are a long shot to make the 743 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: playoffs because Cincinnati's not going anywhere. You still got Baltimore 744 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: and I think Cleveland can rebound, right, I knew. I 745 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: do think Cleveland can rebound as well. We gotta gotta. 746 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that. Other divisions obviously down the road. 747 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: Getting you ready for Camp Colts dot com, download the 748 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: Colts app, all of the above. We got more coming 749 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: at you. But we're going to talk about another team 750 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: right now, and not our team, but Aaron Rodgers. He 751 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: will be back in Green Bay. He was kind of 752 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: floating on ice a little bit, telling McAfee, ay, I 753 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: just had a cleanse. I'm feeling pretty pure right now. 754 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: I love everyone and all my teammates and coaches. It 755 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: was awesome, man, thanks so much. So for a couple 756 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: of days we were like, really, Rogers hanging it up. No, 757 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: he gets fifty million a year from the from the 758 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: pack fifty million, yeah, Matti fifty to play quarterback in 759 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: the NFL. That's the going rate for elite quarterback play. 760 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: It's it's obviously very very important, and he masses a 761 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: lot of deficiencies. There's no question about that. So think 762 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: about this. I was I was looking at, you know, 763 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: possibility of Aaron Rodgers retiring. If you look at it, 764 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,959 Speaker 1: who's gonna play quarterback after Aaron Rodgers? And who would 765 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: that guy be, where would he come from? Some one 766 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: and so forth. But if you look at now that 767 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: he's coming back for another you know whatever, it is 768 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: four years, Jeffrey, the Green Bay Packers have had Hall 769 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: of Fan quarterback play four thirty one consecutive years. When 770 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: you factor in Aaron Rodgers and Brett Farr and now 771 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: you're about and now you're about to have four more, 772 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. Okay, So, so is that a disservice or 773 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: are they right on schedule as far as championships go. 774 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: If you have guys that are Hall of Fame quarterbacks 775 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: over the course of thirty one years and we're talking 776 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: about a total of two championships, are you okay with that? 777 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: It's really it's really really hard to two and thirty 778 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: one with Farv and Rodgers two thirty one. Look, I 779 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: mean the Colts had Manning in luck and had one. 780 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: But it's hard. It's really really hard. I mean, sustained 781 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: success in the regular season doesn't equate to automatically getting 782 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: it done in the postseason. There's there's too much parody, 783 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: there's too many great players, and there's too many things 784 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: that have to go your way. There's a lot of 785 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: luck that's involved. So I'm just saying, thirty one consecutive 786 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: years of sustained elite level quarterback play in one branch. 787 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: Pretty amazing, man. Man, that sounds like one of the 788 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: movies I did way back in the day. They did 789 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: see the late at night sustain Day. What was it 790 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: against sustained sustained elite level quarterback play? You still sustained 791 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: elite excellence starring sustained excellence elite level quarterback play. Park. 792 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: We'll do that. We do that once a year. We 793 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: go over my film log from back in the day 794 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: and I get made fun of. I love it. Will 795 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: get royalties, you know, like Sci Fi Channel at two 796 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: in the morning, a couple of six dollars checks here 797 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: and there. They come up from the screen actors. Gil. Hey, 798 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: thanks guys, this will paper part. But no, we'll do 799 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: that down the road. Man, there's a big mother love it, man, 800 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: Love that I'm back a little bit talking he mate 801 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: about some football. Thanks for Casey Valier for filling in 802 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: for me and the hard work that you do, Mattey. 803 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: Because a lot's happening, a lot's happening next week, a 804 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: lot's happened in this offseason. Before you know it, players 805 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: are back in the building, the offseason workouts begin. We 806 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: can get an eye on these guys, what they're looking like, 807 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: who's going to be at the quarterback position. We there's 808 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot of questions to be answered. Again Colts dot 809 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: com and download the Colts aff Matt Taylor Voice the Colts. 810 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: I am Jeffrey Gorman. This is ninety three five and 811 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: one oh seven five the fans appreciate you guys sticking around. 812 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for the leading from j MB. But coming up 813 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: right now ESPN Radio with Spain and Fitz. We'll talk 814 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: to you next week. I'm