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Speaker 2: Okay, can we talk about your glasses real quick?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 5: It's cool.

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Speaker 2: I fuck it, it is hot. Are you seeing purple? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It looks crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your glasses, the purple sunglasses you're wearing with purple shades.

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Speaker 1: Are you seeing nothing but purple or what?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? It looks like a party in here.

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Speaker 2: That sounds inconvenient.

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Speaker 5: No, it's nice. Everything looks better.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that. Like if you wore that for

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Speaker 2: a day, it'd fuck you up a little.

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Speaker 5: Bit, maybe, but right, don't knock until you try it.

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Speaker 5: You get you have to put these on?

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Speaker 2: Where did you get those? A gas station?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 6: I had my uh, I have my secrets, my fashionable

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Speaker 6: places I shop at.

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Speaker 1: I really hope that you just went on Amazon and

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Speaker 1: typed in purple sunglasses and like consciously ordered those.

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Speaker 5: A little bit of that you did?

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Speaker 1: You did you're like, you're nodding, like fuck, I did

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 5: That's halfway that.

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Speaker 6: I got an ad on Instagram for colored sunglasses and

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Speaker 6: they were like fifty dollars, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 6: these are pretty, Mimi, I don't know if I want

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Speaker 6: to write rock a meme for fifty dollars.

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Speaker 2: Nah.

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Speaker 5: So of course I searched Amazon and found some for

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Speaker 5: like twelve bucks.

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Speaker 2: Nice. It's probably the same exact like its manufacturer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, today's guest guess SISA, because there's two guests today.

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Speaker 5: Wait, let me let me guess who they are. Are

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Speaker 5: they both men? Nope, there's one a man. Nope, Mmm,

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Speaker 5: they're both women. Okay, I was just getting closed.

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Speaker 1: They're actually they're both girls. Well that's the name of

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Speaker 1: their podcast. They're definitely women, but their podcast is called

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Speaker 1: Two Girls, One Ghost.

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Speaker 5: I know the video you're talking about, though.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about two Girls, one cup.

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Speaker 5: Bro, that's what that's who we interviewed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we interviewed the one that pooped.

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Speaker 1: I think they all I kind of realized that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's definitely from our generation. That's that's a millennial, old

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Speaker 1: dirty video, early internet days, right, Two Girls, One Cup?

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Speaker 1: If those listening do not know what that is. You

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Speaker 1: don't need to look it up to find out, but

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Speaker 1: you can. I'm sure it's still out there, but it's

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Speaker 1: this really gross video. It's a lot of stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: It's really bad. But yeah, that definitely scarred me as

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Speaker 1: a kid. That's that's where they got the name from.

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Speaker 1: It's a funny little riff on two Girls, one cup.

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Speaker 1: I actually asked them about that in the interview. They've

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Speaker 1: is seems like an eternity at this point. I think

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Speaker 1: they started their podcast within the year after Up and Vanished.

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Speaker 2: So early days of podcasting.

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Speaker 1: The premise of their show is they talk about ghosts, aliens,

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Speaker 1: and all things paranormal, and they do really deep dive

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Speaker 1: research into these cases and they're both hilarious and witty

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Speaker 1: and just to be straight up with you, Sabrina, one

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Speaker 1: of the hosts is my girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Grow Sicky.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna get cootiehew.

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Speaker 2: But during this interview we were not dating yet.

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Speaker 1: This is actually from a while ago, and one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons I've kind of delayed putting it out was

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Speaker 1: to not make things super weird. As we were, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dylan was there when we did it. We were in

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Speaker 1: It's just like a vacuum, this biodome. And I texted Dylan.

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Speaker 1: We were both just chilling in our hotel rooms and

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Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, thoughts on moving to this airbnb

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Speaker 2: And Dylan was reluctant.

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Speaker 5: You were, but Dylan doesn't like to leave places.

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Speaker 2: And I get it.

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Speaker 1: But the next thing you know, we're sitting on this

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Speaker 1: and we're just having a damn sleepover.

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Speaker 2: And it was awesome. But the house that we stayed

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Speaker 2: in was like this Barbie house.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's for like bachelorette parties or something, but

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Speaker 1: it looks like a like a podcast set. If you

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Speaker 1: go to the YouTube channel and watch the interview, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I wish you could have seen it because it was weird, Like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wasn't there. I saw the interview, though it's good.

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Speaker 6: It's a really good interview I thought was fun, especially

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Speaker 6: the interactive part. I gues it's not really interactive, but

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, yeah, Well I'll go ahead and just you know,

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Speaker 1: And I highly suggest if you guys are enjoying the

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Speaker 1: podcast and you do want to see the visuals of

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Speaker 1: these interviews, you can just by going to our YouTube channel.

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Speaker 5: Just search Talking Today.

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Speaker 1: Just go to YouTube and type in talking to Death.

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Speaker 1: It comes right up. But in this interview, two Girls,

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Speaker 1: One Ghost is hosted by Sabrina and Karen, and they

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Speaker 1: are best friends and decided about six seven years ago

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Speaker 1: been very successful and this is their full time job

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Speaker 1: and they do really great deep dives into the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: They actually even go out into the field and stay

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Speaker 1: at some of the atonic places that shit that I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want to do, you know, I would go knock

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Speaker 2: Stay in some old haunted ass house.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why that is, but I'm not even

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Speaker 1: saying that I fully believe in whatever. I just just

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Speaker 1: don't want to touch it, you know, Like, how do

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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm very similar. I don't know if I really

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Speaker 2: But you're not playing it. Yeah, you're not playing with

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Speaker 5: Right, I'm not going to a haunted place. I'm not

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Speaker 5: I'm not feeling good about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, long story short, though. I think you know, both

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Speaker 2: You know, we don't want to dabble with the devil.

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Speaker 1: But just to kind of spice things up in this interview,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it'd be kind of fun. I purchase

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Speaker 1: this little tiny Ouiji board and it's I mean it's tiny.

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Speaker 1: It's so tiny that it's almost not functional. I pulled

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Speaker 2: To use it.

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Speaker 1: I played with my first Ouiji board, and even though

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Speaker 2: This is a great interview.

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Speaker 1: I know you'll enjoy it, and if you haven't yet,

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Speaker 1: go check out their podcast called Two Girls, One Ghost

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Speaker 1: and Without further ado. Today's guests are Two Girls, One Ghost,

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Speaker 1: Corinne and Sabrina.

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Speaker 2: Two Girls, One Ghost.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, hey, our ghost is somewhere around here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sitting on your lap, probably like the haunted mansion.

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Speaker 4: Ride's light. He spat, yes, give a little back. Then

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Speaker 4: where's the name from?

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Speaker 2: It was like ghost, Yeah, where'd you get the name from?

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Speaker 3: Trauma were fired by an infamous film, well done Accidentally,

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Speaker 3: I actually have never seen it.

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Speaker 2: Peaks Rot Domatoes.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, probably one hundred, probably six sixty nine percent,

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Speaker 4: I think probably.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever actually watch Two Girls, One Cup?

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Speaker 4: I think I I know I did. I watched fifteen

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Speaker 4: seconds of it, okay, and it was horrifying. It was

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Speaker 4: like when they were actively pooping in the cup.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, that's enough for me. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was a very innocent child, like I played with

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Speaker 4: It might have been what changed everything.

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Speaker 2: Sent you on a new postwitch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The name was her idea. It was no, I love

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Speaker 4: I was like, wait a second, this is good marketing.

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Speaker 1: Then it flows yeah yeah, yeah, I've also seen that video.

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Speaker 4: It seems like you are troubled by it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mega, still picture it today?

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Speaker 4: Were you alone or in a group also? But not

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Speaker 4: till a kink? Shame? If that's your thing, maybe you

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Speaker 1: I mean I think I watched it with all of

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Speaker 2: The video, but to find the two girls one coming, No,

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Speaker 2: So I filmed. I was living at my friend's house,

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Speaker 3: I feel like you remember exactly what you were wearing too, probably.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, free shirts back then, so yeah, it was like

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's really kind of messed up

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Speaker 2: I was like that. I thought later, like I just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did you watch the entire thing?

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Speaker 4: think it's a it's a short one. But my parents

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Speaker 4: I had to explain the name of our podcast to

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Speaker 4: them about it. It clearly was a traumatizing moment for

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Speaker 4: And then like a year later, he's with me and

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Speaker 4: Sabrina before a live show in Boston and he's so

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Speaker 4: proud of us. He's like, it's the best dad ever,

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Speaker 4: and we're He hugs both of us AND's like, let's

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Speaker 5: Saying, shut show.

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Speaker 2: Now that probably exists.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you type in two girls, one dad, there's

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Speaker 2: Ready to go.

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Speaker 3: That's someone's trauma, and and then it became their kink.

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Speaker 4: My teacher made a whole speech. It was like you

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Speaker 4: Actually, why doesn't the whole class go to a life

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Speaker 3: Oh we should talk about I know this is your podcast,

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Speaker 2: So y'all never had that?

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Speaker 5: And also this is the.

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Speaker 4: Gym teacher doing that? Yeah, how are they qualified?

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Speaker 4: I probably, but it was our school nurse who did it.

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Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, and you're looking at yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they want to talk to you, like when they're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just don't give me the option, because I'll take it. Man, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's hard when you like space out and stare at

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was always just wanting to create stuff and

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Speaker 4: Right, we watched that.

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Speaker 2: You posted it? I did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't google Google and go deep.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but maybe after this we was so would you?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was really good. I can't believe you

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Speaker 2: Time, right, Yeah, come back to her. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: People are surprised when they hear that, and I totally

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Speaker 1: from like a true crime podcast perspective Investigating and Unsolved Murder, yeah,

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Speaker 4: How amazing was that though? Your first foray into podcasting

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Speaker 4: You know, well, how did you decide to go audio only?

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Speaker 2: I just kind of had the thought of, you know,

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Speaker 1: And so I thought, maybe I'll make a podcast as

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Speaker 2: And so that was my plan, like it was just

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Speaker 4: It wasn't going to be a thing building your portfolio.

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Speaker 4: So cool. Yeah, Krinn. What were you like as a kid. Oh?

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Speaker 4: I wasn't quiet.

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Speaker 4: I was whispering my secrets to the trees and still popular.

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Speaker 4: But I did like to kind of like ruffle feathers.

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Speaker 4: And I was very artistic, like I'm good at drawing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I truly over Did it go over their heads?

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Speaker 4: No? I got called to the office.

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Speaker 4: I'm an artist.

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Speaker 1: I had teacher who like just didn't like me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was a nerdy little like I never brushed my

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Speaker 3: you're like Princess Diaries. You were me a thermopha before

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Speaker 1: Well, if you were a barbie girl growing up, how'd

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: there or like the person running it was like, oh yeah,

448
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: there's a past life that's trying to come through and

449
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: take over your current life.

450
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So another language? What does that sound like? It's

451
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 2: not just gibberish?

452
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: Is it?

453
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: I do not know, I've never heard or is it

454
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: just nonsense?

455
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 4: I've never heard it? I don't know. Also, his current wife,

456
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 4: she's bilingual. She's Lithuanian, and so she speaks a bunch

457
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 4: of different languages, and so I think she understands language

458
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 4: and has identified it as sounding like a language. It's

459
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: not just like mumbling or yeah, yeah, that's weird. It's

460
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 4: not freaky.

461
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 2: That's very weird. So your house was haunted, Okay, how'd

462
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: you know that?

463
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 4: Okay?

464
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: Well, I when I was so when we first moved

465
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: into this house, I was probably like four, and I

466
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 3: started having recurring nightmares. And in the nightmare, I'd wake

467
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: up like as I was when I went to sleep,

468
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 3: and I would see this figure in my doorway, and

469
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: I felt like I had to follow it, and so

470
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: I'd follow it down the hallway to my sister's room

471
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: and I would see these black and white orbs fighting

472
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 3: over her, and it was like always scary. I felt

473
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: like my sister was in danger, and I'd wake up

474
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: at that moment. I had this for years, and then

475
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 3: when I was twenty one, I was at my college

476
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 3: graduation dinner with my dad, my sister brother, and we

477
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 3: were just talking about reocurring nightmares and I share this

478
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 3: story and my dad like drops me off the party,

479
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, college graduation party afterwards, and he texts me

480
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 3: and he's like, hey, do you have time tomorrow before

481
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 3: I leave? I really need to talk to you about

482
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 3: something you said tonight and I was like, okay, you

483
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 3: can't just say that, Like, what are you talking about yet?

484
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: Now? Yeah?

485
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: Hello, And he was like, that dream you had wasn't

486
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,479
Speaker 3: a dream, It happened in real life. Then he goes

487
00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: on to tell me that when we first moved into

488
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: the house, he had fallen asleep on the couch and

489
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: woke up to like a weird noise and he thought

490
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 3: it was just the TV. Turns it off and goes

491
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: around the downstairs, closing all the doors, making sure everything's locked.

492
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 3: And he starts going upstairs to where all of our

493
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: bedrooms are, and like immediately feels like you know that

494
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: feeling where someone's looking at you or in the house. Yeah,

495
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: And he checks on me, I'm asleep. He checks my mom,

496
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: she's asleep, and he starts going down the hallway to

497
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: my sister's room. The air gets cold, like all of

498
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: his instincts are telling him to run. He gets to

499
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: my sister's door and he like touches the handle, opens it.

500
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 3: All of the air is sucked out of the room

501
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 3: turns ice cold. My sister's asleep in bed, eyes closed,

502
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: her mouth opens, and out of her comes get out.

503
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 4: No.

504
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he goes up to my sister and like

505
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: shakes her awake and is like leave my daughter alone,

506
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 3: picks her up to take her to bed, turns around

507
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: and I'm sleepwalking in the doorway. So like my dream

508
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: interpretation of it, I was witnessing all of it.

509
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: So you think your dreams weren't dreams.

510
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: I think they were my brain processing what I was seeing,

511
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: like I was witnessing something dark trying to possess my sister.

512
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: Okay, and then like maybe the soul projecting out of

513
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: your body could have been doing that or do you

514
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: think that you were really experiencing that and then we'd

515
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: go back to your bed and remember it as a

516
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: dream the next day.

517
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

518
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, there have been parts.

519
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I've ashell traveled before, so maybe it's that.

520
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: Okay, what's that like scary?

521
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 3: I did it by accident and I woke up afterwards.

522
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: Like the reason I woke up is because I heard

523
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: something whisper in my ear. Wake up, like something scary

524
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: is going to happen, like audible, Yeah, like you know

525
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: what where people like spring up?

526
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 4: That's what I did.

527
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: I heard the whispering in my physical year, and my

528
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 3: astral self came right back into my body and I

529
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: sprung away.

530
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: Because when you actual project too, it's like almost into

531
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 4: the astral plane. You're not exploring your own apartment or anything.

532
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 3: That time, I was exploring my own apartment. Oh you were, Yeah,

533
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: I was like walking through the hallways.

534
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 2: If you had an experience like the like an actual projection.

535
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: Or would tell the one about yourself. Okay, Well, I

536
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 4: also grew up in a haunted house, and I my

537
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: parents lived in three separate houses. Every single one of

538
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: them has been haunted.

539
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: So are they these old houses that would no we built? Okay?

540
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: And we actually well, so my house in Vermont that

541
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 4: I grew up in the majority of the time I

542
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 4: moved there when I was five. My parents built it

543
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: on this farmland. We knew the family who sold their

544
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 4: farmland to the developer, and so for a really long

545
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 4: time we couldn't understand why our house was so haunted,

546
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 4: and other houses on our street, like there was literally

547
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 4: an exorcism of a house four doors down that was

548
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 4: built like a new thousand and two.

549
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

550
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 4: So recently I actually ran into one of the farmer

551
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: who had sold the land his daughter, and I asked

552
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: her if she knew anything about the land being haunted,

553
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 4: and she was like, oh my god, that doesn't surprise me.

554
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: She's like, I have no idea, but our farmhouse was

555
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: so haunted. And she's in her fifties or sixties now,

556
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 4: and she said she will not go into her basement.

557
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: So we had so many hauntings in this house, and

558
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: a lot of them were kind of benign. It was

559
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 4: mostly like we had some regulars, Like there were some

560
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 4: people that we would see frequently. There were there was

561
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 4: a ghost dog. I actually have never seen the ghost dog.

562
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 4: It was a black lab with a red collar. For

563
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: a long time, only people who were visiting our house

564
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 4: would see this dog. My mom is the only person

565
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 4: who has seen him in real life. And it was

566
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 4: only like maybe ten years ago, So for probably fifteen

567
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 4: years it was strictly just being told to us by

568
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 4: other people. So there was a lot that happened. A

569
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: few scary experiences too that we all had. But one

570
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 4: of the ones that I've been trying to make sense

571
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: of this pastast year is when I was in middle school,

572
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 4: I did get bullied very very badly for like two

573
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: years and it was really really horrible, and I actually

574
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: don't remember like a lot of How.

575
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: So when you say bullied, what were they doing like.

576
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 4: Telling me to kill myself and stuff like that, Like

577
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: it was.

578
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: What you would see in it, like girls or dudes

579
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: too or what?

580
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it was it was girls. It was

581
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 4: like one specific girl and like her cousins and.

582
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: People popular kids being like picking on a random person

583
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: or what.

584
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 4: I was popular too, though, which is but I feel

585
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: some weird it's popular pain right, Okay, No, but it

586
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 4: was like it was more of me and this girl

587
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 4: just it was like finding yourself. She was unhappy in

588
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 4: her life and literally right yeah, yeah, I mean she's

589
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: had a lot of growth. She apologized to me a

590
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: few years later, Like did she really I forgave her?

591
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 4: She was clearly in a very bad part of her life,

592
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: and I was her best friend at the time, and

593
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: it all was kind of taken out on me, and

594
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 4: then other people directed it towards me too, And so

595
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: I had a really, really awful two years. I had

596
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 4: really good friends during that time, but it was still

597
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: really hard to like constantly be bullied every day that

598
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: I went to school.

599
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how did you even deal with that?

600
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: I probably missed like a third of school for those

601
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: two years, my mom would pick me up a lot. Yeah,

602
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 4: so I was having a really really hard time. And

603
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 4: for those two years, in my childhood bedroom, I had

604
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 4: a mirror. I still have that mirror. It's hanging up.

605
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: It's like a floor length mirror that hangs right next

606
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 4: to my closet door. And during these two years, every

607
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: once in a while, this woman would appear in this corner.

608
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: What she would wear like baggy dark clothes and she

609
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 4: had like a middle part and kind of like dark

610
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: brown hair, and her face I couldn't entirely see it,

611
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: but it was like kind of cloaked, and she looked

612
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: really scary to me. Yeah, but she would walk over

613
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: to me and she would approach me, and I wouldn't

614
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: be scared. I'd feel so like comforted and loved and understood,

615
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: and she would like literally reach out and I could

616
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: feel her kind of like petting my hair and trying

617
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: to make me feel better. Yeah, it's so freaky, right like,

618
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: but it feels scary, but it felt really good for

619
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: those two years. So for a really long time, I

620
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 4: was like, this must be my like a guardian or

621
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: like maybe like a relative, Like I had no clue

622
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: who this woman was. I described her to my parents.

623
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: They didn't know who she was either. And then this

624
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: passed April. I was at home and I was in

625
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: that same exact corner and I was changing into my

626
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: pajamas and I caught a glimpse of myself at the mirror,

627
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: and I was like, holy shit, I look exactly like

628
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: that woman that I used to see.

629
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: WHOA really yes, And so.

630
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: I don't know how to confirm that, but like, I'm

631
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: probably a couple of years younger than what that woman

632
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: looked like to me, but very similar. And so part

633
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: of me is like, oh am I haunting myself? Like

634
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: do I go through some therapy to like finally hail myself.

635
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: Someone Also at one of our recent shows, we're in Boston,

636
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: they said they saw someone the same.

637
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: Exact description getting a very similar.

638
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: Behind you, very proud of you, like a very like motherly,

639
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: prideful type of spirit.

640
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. So either I went back and I'm now like

641
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: healing myself through some sort of therapy, or I'm going

642
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: to die in like five years and this is me

643
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: seeing my soul go through all of my life's memories, or.

644
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: When we die, we just don't necessarily die yeah, maybe

645
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: maybe we exist on some sort of imprint level and

646
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: multiple planes or something.

647
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, right, And also if you die, and

648
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: then maybe you can choose how you reappear, Like yeah,

649
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: in the most form.

650
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: You just like go to the to the front desk

651
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: and you get to the box, You're like, I really,

652
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: they're just like really frustrated at you, and you're like

653
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: there's a big line and you're.

654
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: Like, God, just use my old picture after life horrible.

655
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I had so many experiences like that growing up.

656
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: My mom is also very intuitive and into that stuff,

657
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: and both of both her and I have had quite

658
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: a few premonitions that have come true, but neither of

659
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: us are kind of like locked in enough to understand

660
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: where they can't identify.

661
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: Our twenty twenty four goal is to really tap in.

662
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: To conly be able to say we are witch.

663
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: We are witches, because right now we feel like frauds

664
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: when we say that, or when people call us witches

665
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: or ask if we're witches. Why I have imposter syndrome,

666
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: Like I don't feel like I know enough, Like, yeah,

667
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: we talked about the paranormal all the time, but that

668
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean.

669
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: We're witches, Well, what would make you a witch?

670
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 4: Probably all the things we're describing. It's just it's because

671
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: we don't have like the full.

672
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: Ability really having a podcast called two Girls One Ghosts

673
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: and go on tour and conturer spirits in front of

674
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: a crowd.

675
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: Right, that's the weird thing, Right, is like our paranormal

676
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 4: equipment that we bring on stage, probably a third of

677
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: the shows that we've done has been really active, which

678
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: seems like a really high percentage.

679
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: Do you think demons are real? Yeah, okay, what is it?

680
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: What's the demon? Then?

681
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: Like a darker energy? For sure?

682
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: Is kind of a spiritual term a little bit right

683
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: it is?

684
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 4: Well, and I think too our understanding or at least

685
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: like I'll speak for myself here, from so many of

686
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: the cases that we've looked into and from what we've

687
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: heard from other people, I almost think of a demon

688
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 4: not as being like I'm sure it could be just

689
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: like an intelligent, active entity of its own, But I've

690
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: also heard many times that someone's negative emotions or someone's trauma,

691
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: like a piece of their soul or their experience almost.

692
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: Chips off fragments of what like what once was right.

693
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: And then it like festers and becomes. Like if you're

694
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 4: so so angry and you have this huge, horrible thing

695
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 4: that happens to you, all your anger might some of

696
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: it might like come off of you and then create

697
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: its own sort of being. And that's what we encounter.

698
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean, going back to your own experience in middle school,

699
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: you were having a hard time, right, Yeah, what's your

700
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: correlation with that? I mean, while you were having one

701
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: of the hardest times you've had, you were experiencing this

702
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: paranormal you know, ghost figure in your mirror.

703
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

704
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: I literally have no idea.

705
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: I have no like like coming from your subconscious or

706
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: is it creating this energy that is like becoming physically

707
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: actualized in some way, or if I had.

708
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: To guess, because I have accidentally actual projected before, just

709
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 4: like Sabrina.

710
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: Has accidentally astral project.

711
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: Have you ever had like sleep paralysis? I have.

712
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: Not, really, I've had that like exploding head syndrome, which

713
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: also that's a horrible name for it, but that's what

714
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: it feels like.

715
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: It's like, right when you're about to go to sleep,

716
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: like right there, all.

717
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: Of a sudden, the loudest sound you've ever heard in

718
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: your life, audibly in the room.

719
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: Mine was a train horn and it would make you jump.

720
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: Up, like holy shit, I've never heard of it, yeah,

721
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: and mean it terrified me, and I was like, wow, okay.

722
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: Did this only ever happen in one place?

723
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: So I looked it up and like, I was really

724
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: tired one night and I hadn't slept in a couple

725
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: of days, and I used to sleep like on my back.

726
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've read that.

727
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess some studies said that if you

728
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: sleep on your back, it's more likely to happen. And

729
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: it scared me so badly that I straight up don't

730
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: sleep on my back anymore.

731
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 4: Wow, that's kind of an entry point.

732
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to happen again.

733
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, sleep proalysis, they say again, if you sleep on

734
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 4: your back or astral projection, that all happens. And then

735
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 4: there's people attempt to medically, I guess, diagnose this or

736
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: like explain what's going on. But I think the question

737
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: that we have is why do so many people experience

738
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: the exact same thing when seeing the same exactly right

739
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: without the knowledge of the yeah right, yeah, yeah, for

740
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: the very first time.

741
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: I guess, have you ever had an out of body experience?

742
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have.

743
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: Have you ever dissociated me?

744
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: Oh for sure?

745
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you're not doing it on purpose, right, Like

746
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: I think that's I know, I'm not, Yeah, like it

747
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: just happens. Yeah, So I think the same way astral

748
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: projection can just happen. And unless you know and are

749
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: actively aware of the ability to do it, I think

750
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: it does start accidental and then you can like harness it.

751
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Except for those who don't know what astral projecting is, Yes,

752
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: what is it? And what we're your experiences doing that?

753
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the simplest term or way to

754
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: describe it is like you're astral your soul separating from

755
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: your physical body.

756
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 4: It's tethered and so like if you picture almost like

757
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: a string or like an umbilical cord from your physical

758
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: body leading your soul around as you explore either like

759
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: the physical realm that we're currently in, or some people

760
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 4: experience another realm and they speak to their loved ones

761
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 4: on like the astral plane, which so your consciousness is

762
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: still with your soul like moving about.

763
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: And so what was that experience like for you? You

764
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: said you accidentally astral projected. What did like paint that

765
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: for me?

766
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: Well?

767
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 4: You saw, were you going to people fighting over your sisters?

768
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you were like laying down to go to sleep,

769
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: and I was.

770
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: Fully asleep when it happened. Okay, yeah, I was napping

771
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: on my back and mine wasn't mine. Wasn't that scary?

772
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: It was just like I've since fought the feeling when

773
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: I feel like it's coming on, it's almost where you

774
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 4: feel like your body's sinking and you're kind of floating

775
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: above it, where like you're falling into your bed. And

776
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 4: then I hear really loud like woshing, like almost like

777
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: someone's putting headphones over me, and I'm in a I'm

778
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: like underneath the train or something.

779
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: Was it not just so weird dream? Or did you

780
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: did you become conscious of what was happening in your

781
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: dream or something.

782
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 4: The only reason I know that this even happened and

783
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: it wasn't a dream was because when this was occurring,

784
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: the doorbell rang. And it was in college when we

785
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: I was living with five other or four other girls

786
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: in a house, and the doorbell rang. Our friends Sarah

787
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: was coming over, and I was so stressed that no

788
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: one was going to go get the door and let

789
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: her in that I saw myself, like I didn't even

790
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: see myself. I was actively getting up from my bed

791
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 4: and walking over to the door, and I looked out

792
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: of the window and I saw Sarah there, and I

793
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 4: was like, someone needs to dance at the door. I

794
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: can't answer the door.

795
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: Right now, And then like did you see and stuff?

796
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 4: That's exactly how I know it's because then when I

797
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: woke up from a nap like fifteen minutes later, and

798
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: someone had answered the door. When I went out into

799
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: the living room, she was wearing the exact clothes and

800
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: she was carrying a cooler, and that exact cooler was there.

801
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 2: That is like very specific.

802
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean like how could I?

803
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Is that what it was like for you?

804
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: Uh?

805
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 4: No mine?

806
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: So I feel like the actual projection that story kind

807
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: of qualifies as actual protection. But then the one where

808
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: I woke up because something whispered wake up, I was

809
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: asleep and this was early days of starting the podcast,

810
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: so I think I must have just like started opened

811
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: myself up a lot more talking about the paranormal and

812
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: I'd gone asleep and I woke up, but like saw

813
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: my physical body still in bed, and I walked out

814
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: my astul self walked out into my living room and

815
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: I saw this woman there and she was like sitting

816
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: on the couch in my living room. And I swear

817
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: if I saw her in real life, I would recognize

818
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 3: her instantly, but I had never seen her before. She

819
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: had like dark curly hair, and she was just sitting

820
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: on the chair kind of like this, just like sitting

821
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: here and like waiting for me, and she had me

822
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: join her and we just sat and talked for twenty

823
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: minutes about life and things that I was going through

824
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: in that moment.

825
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 4: And then she was basically telling me.

826
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: Like I could go explore like what AshEL projection is

827
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: and how it works. And so I start walking and

828
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: at the time, I lived in this apartment building that

829
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: had so many doors, and I walked through the hallway

830
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: and I had to go through each of the doors,

831
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: and like as I was getting to the exterior of

832
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 3: the building is when that voice.

833
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: I'd wake up. So what was that voice?

834
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: You think someone trying to protect me? I don't know,

835
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: like something else, not you, not your subcons It was

836
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: a male voice.

837
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: It was a male voice. Okay, what did it sounded like?

838
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: To your best impression, it kind.

839
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 4: Of sounded like my grandfather. Okay, yeah, did you watch

840
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: the movie Insidios?

841
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: I did you know?

842
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 4: How like part of it is there's darkness and darker

843
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 4: spirits that exist on the astral plane that you know,

844
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: could take advantage of, almost like a vacant body. That's

845
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: kind of why I think you were told to wake

846
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: up because something was lurking. Okay, maybe going to take

847
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 4: advantage of your, yeah, distance from yourself.

848
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: So you guys are on tour right now, and you're

849
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: it's themed around your experience at the Conjuring House, right,

850
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: So tell me about how that happened and what the

851
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: hell went down in that in that house so much?

852
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: Okay, we've always so for six years, we've been doing

853
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: the podcast and we research places or we read people's stories,

854
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: and we've gone on like ghost tours and towns or

855
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: like like at certain haunted buildings, but we've never gone

856
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: and done an investigation. And so we were like, I

857
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: think it's time we should do it. And I don't

858
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: know why we chose the Conjuring House.

859
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 4: I don't know, it just seemed it was attractive to us.

860
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 4: We were like, let's go stay at the farmhouse. It's

861
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: so terrifying, Yeah, exactly. And I live in New England

862
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: and it's in New England, so it felt easier. But

863
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: Sabrina and I wanted to almost it wasn't necessarily just

864
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 4: about spending the night at the conjuring house. We wanted

865
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 4: to take a little bit more of like a journalistic approach,

866
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: and so we interviewed people. Did people who lived there.

867
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: We interviewed Andrea Parrin who lived in the house. We

868
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 3: interviewed Chad and Carry Hayes who wrote the movie.

869
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: We had through documents at the Rhode Island Historical Society.

870
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we had Greg and Dana Newkirk come

871
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: with us because, like we've said, like we don't feel

872
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: like we're professionals. We've never done a paranormal investigation before,

873
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: so we're like, we need to bring someone who knows

874
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 3: what they're doing with us. So Greg and Dana came

875
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: with us.

876
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're quite famous paranormal investigators and caretakers of haunted objects,

877
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 4: so they have a lot of experience with not only investigating,

878
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 4: but like navigating certain spirits and negative presences. So we

879
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 4: felt very comfortable having them come with us. And Dana

880
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 4: is a witch like Dana's a witch.

881
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: Okay, le, she's a real witch. Does one become a

882
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: real witch?

883
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: Your study and learn practice?

884
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: But are are you all witches?

885
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 4: Then we're trying where to develop?

886
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: When do you become full witch?

887
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: When we get over our imposter syndrome?

888
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: Oh okay, what if you never do? I mean, maybe

889
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: do you? I have imposter syndrome too?

890
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: Reading more will help me feel more. I just want

891
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: to understand it, like the history of it, and just

892
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: like different.

893
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: Be more educated and yeah, all the things.

894
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: But I think practicing witchcraft or being a witch is

895
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: very personal. It's a very personal experience. And so it's

896
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: not like buying a book of spells and just doing

897
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: all of them and being a witch. It's like learning

898
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: about different things. And you know, you speak to trees

899
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: like you are very nature driven. I think I'm more

900
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: like water driven and like dream space. So like maybe

901
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: it's understanding what speaks to you and then like becoming

902
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: more in tune with it.

903
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think that the trope would be that

904
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: you have like a you know, you're like whipping up

905
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: potions and you know, casting hexes on people or something.

906
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: Is that part of it or is it really more

907
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: like about a self manifestation sort of like I don't know.

908
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: I think there are people who do hexes. I highly

909
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: recommend that they don't, but I think it's I think

910
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 3: in internal people self don't.

911
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's about yeah, trusting your intuition and just

912
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: trying to do things. It's almost like self care and

913
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 4: way where you go through certain rituals that feel good.

914
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: Eclectic witches they kind of can grab a bunch of

915
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: different types of witchcraft that belongs to different cultures and

916
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 4: different types of people and test them out and see

917
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 4: like what feels good and what feels right for them.

918
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: But then other people there's so many different lines of

919
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 4: witchcraft too, which is I yeah, this is why you're like, oh,

920
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: I want to be more educated in it too, because

921
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 4: it's like some people it's very hereditary and it's very

922
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: culture based, but other people it's just like does this

923
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: feel like it's doing anything for me? Does this feel good?

924
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: Right? And eventually we'll buy a cottage in the woods

925
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: and live our best switchy life.

926
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're then you're definitely then yeah, right.

927
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 4: You can come too. But the entry is one tooth, two.

928
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: Teeth, any tooth any tooth. Does it have to be mine?

929
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 4: It does not have to Okay, I was thinking yours.

930
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 4: But anyone that front teeth?

931
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: What do you do with my tooth that you're going

932
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: to like use it for a.

933
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: For a hex?

934
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

935
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: Is that how that works?

936
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: I give you, I give you one on my to

937
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: my tooth, give me tooth, I give one of my teeth,

938
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: and then you hex me as.

939
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: A bad bad deal.

940
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 4: I know it is a bad deal.

941
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: Stay on our side, okay, yeah, yeah, don't listen to am. Okay.

942
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: So you arrived at the conjuring house. What time was

943
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: this that when you got there?

944
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: For the overnight, we got there at like seven pm. Yeah,

945
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: it was seven pm. We did the day tour the

946
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: day before because we wanted to see it in the

947
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 4: daylight and get like the same sort of group to

948
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 4: where everybody else gets. Okay, But for the overnight it

949
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 4: was we checked in at seven pm. We left at

950
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: four thirty am. And the only reason we left at

951
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 4: four thirty am instead of staying until the eight am

952
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 4: checkout time was because at three am, which is like

953
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 4: the notorious witching hour, like when the veil is thinnest

954
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: and the spirits are closest, it was dead. Silence was cool.

955
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: So it was so active in the house. But then

956
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 4: for like ninety minutes at the end, from three am on,

957
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: nothing happened. So we're like, okay, I guess they're done.

958
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there power in there? Yeah? Yeah, Okay.

959
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: So you walk in there, what's the what's the first

960
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: thing that you notice? And you're like, oh, wait, that's something,

961
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: something's going on, there's some activity here.

962
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: Well, okay, So during the day tour, because we were

963
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: both a little nervous going into the house for the

964
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: first time because we didn't, like, you know, we had

965
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: seen the movie, we didn't know much else, so we

966
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: thought there was going to be evil spirits there.

967
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 4: When you walked in, I was so calm, Like I

968
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 4: was nervous walking up into the threshold, and then as

969
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 4: soon as I passed through from the outside to inside

970
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 4: through the doorway, I felt so warm and so loved

971
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: and I was like I could take a nap here.

972
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 4: And I looked at Sabrina and I was like, I

973
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: feel so good.

974
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you just having a good time or was

975
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: it deeper than that.

976
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: No, it's just like truly, you know, when you enter

977
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: a space and you can tell like if someone just

978
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 4: had a fight or if something just feels really like

979
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 4: homey and warm and comfortable. I felt like it was

980
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: really homey, which it doesn't look homie.

981
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: It does though, it's like timing farmhouse like it is

982
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: very beautiful.

983
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

984
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: Well you walk in yeah yeah.

985
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 4: And the room that you walk into like they're playing

986
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 4: into the conjuring movies.

987
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: There's ware.

988
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did not break the glass. And I did

989
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 4: not feel the way you did. No you energy?

990
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah? Really?

991
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is weird that you can walk into the

992
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: same place and have two different feelings.

993
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: What do you feel like?

994
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: I just felt uneasy, like I felt the shift and energy.

995
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't scary necessarily, but I was like, I feel

996
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: the heaviness of there's something going on here, and.

997
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: Your senses are heightened here because you're here under the

998
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: premise of trying to investigate activity of some sort. Do

999
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: you get it plays into it at all or you definitely?

1000
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1001
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: And so that did you experience anything, did you hear

1002
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: sounds or what happened? A lot? Happened a lot? Yeah,

1003
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: give me a good one.

1004
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: Okay, well we have one that we didn't actually have

1005
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: during our show. So should I tell the clock one?

1006
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, okay.

1007
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: So while we were there, we were doing we were

1008
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: just doing like spirit sessions and like using the spear

1009
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: box and Says method, And the Essays method is like

1010
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: sensory deprivation, but.

1011
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: It's technologically assisted mediumship. So when people have s boxes

1012
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: or spirit boxes or some sort of sweeping radio that

1013
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 4: like scans through the radio stations. The scanning of the

1014
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: radio stations very quickly is supposed to basically prevent any

1015
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 4: like full words or sentences coming through by actual radio

1016
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: hosts and give an opportunity for spirits to like communicate

1017
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 4: and speak to the radio wavelength for them to write

1018
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: and exactly. The esta's method takes the spirit box and

1019
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: basically plugs in noise canceling headphones, and then the person

1020
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 4: will wear a blind fold so that they can't be

1021
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 4: influenced at all by anyone in the room asking questions.

1022
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: They won't know if you're reacting to what they're saying.

1023
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 4: They actually don't even know if you're in the room

1024
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: with them, really, and so the esta's method is someone

1025
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 4: sitting there, they can't see, they can hear, but all

1026
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: they hear is the of the sweeping radio and then

1027
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 4: they'll repeat any words that they hear, and then someone

1028
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 4: else or a group of people are in the room

1029
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: with them asking questions, and so they're just repeating the

1030
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: words that the spirits are saying in response.

1031
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's kind of like an experiment where you're

1032
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: speaking to them and this is like the fail proof, Yeah, exactly,

1033
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: variable here where it's kind of if they've heard something

1034
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: that made sense as a response, that would be either

1035
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: a strange coincidence or real.

1036
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: And the entire time the responses were like accurately responding

1037
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: to our questions.

1038
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: That's what freaked us out so much because we used

1039
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 4: the Estas method and the Frank's Box. There's a Frank's

1040
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 4: Box is something that was created by a man named

1041
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 4: Frank Sumption in the early two thousands to communicate with

1042
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 4: aliens and there's only some two hundred of them. And

1043
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 4: Greg and Dana k Newkirk, who came with us to

1044
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 4: the overnight, they have one, and so they brought it.

1045
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: And we were using the Frank's Box as the spirit

1046
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 4: box with the Stus method, and we'd never used it before.

1047
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: We probably did this method for like almost ninety minutes

1048
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 4: and I think you and I probably I think we

1049
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 4: assumed there'd be like a lot of dead space or

1050
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: like a lot of opportunities for spirits to say something

1051
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 4: that didn't make sense to us. We were prepped for that.

1052
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: That never happened. Everything made sense, Everything was the response.

1053
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 4: We were never interrupted by the spirits. They never spoke

1054
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: out of turn. It was freaky.

1055
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: So then this example that I'll tell you is we

1056
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 3: were asking the spirits if they remembered the paren family,

1057
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 3: who the Conjuring movie is based off of, and Dana,

1058
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: using the S's method, responded immediately saying, I remember when

1059
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: they were young that there was a clock then, and

1060
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 3: we didn't really think anything of it. But then after

1061
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 3: we did all of this, and as we were putting

1062
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: together our show, we interviewed Andrea parent, who is the

1063
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: woman we were asking the ghosts if they remembered, and

1064
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: Andrew tells us this story about.

1065
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: The day they moved in.

1066
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: They had this grandfather clock and maybe within like the

1067
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 3: first week, it kept going off at a certain time,

1068
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden it stopped working and

1069
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 3: it was stuck on that time that it was going

1070
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: off every night, and it was like when they were

1071
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: experiencing paranormal activity. It stopped working and did not ever

1072
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: work again until the day they moved out, and it

1073
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: immediately started working again.

1074
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: Wow.

1075
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: And we were like the ghosts recall the clock. They remember,

1076
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: they remembered the clock. There was a clock then, and

1077
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: they were kind of like, in my mind, it was

1078
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: like they were admitting that they had some interference with the.

1079
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: Clock, right, like they're pointing towards the Also, like how

1080
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: Frank just called it the Frank Box.

1081
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: It's like, what I call this, Well, it's my box box.

1082
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we have to honor that because he's since passed.

1083
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: Fans box.

1084
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the extraterrestrials they told him to build it.

1085
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: And actually having the Franks Box there was so perfect

1086
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 4: because I think a lot of people associate the Conjuring

1087
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 4: House with spirits and with poltergeists something demonic, but aliens

1088
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 4: are the huge thing there. People see UFOs all the time.

1089
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: We were told when we were using the EST's method

1090
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 4: and also when we were just using a sort of

1091
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 4: like radio s box on its own from the spirits,

1092
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 4: that there were aliens there and to look in the

1093
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 4: window and that they come through the window and that

1094
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: they'll look like fake clouds, which again was so weird

1095
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: because we were hearing all of this. And then later

1096
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 4: when we spoke to Andrew and had that interview, she

1097
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 4: was telling us about one of the many experiences she

1098
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: had there where she looked outside and there were clouds

1099
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 4: that looked like cotton candy, multi colored clouds, and then

1100
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 4: an entire like flotilla of ships came through the sky.

1101
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah that's the word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like athlete, yeah,

1102
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: an army of alien yeah.

1103
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

1104
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1105
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: I am bummed though, because I like feel like that

1106
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: would have been my opportunity to be abducted and I I'm.

1107
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: Still here, or maybe you were, you just haven't remembered

1108
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: it yet.

1109
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 4: Maybe that's true. For that to be true, not at

1110
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: the contrary, I don't know what they.

1111
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: Were doing up there were like, God, these people are weird.

1112
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: I know.

1113
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 4: We had a lot of fun experiences too that Yeah,

1114
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 4: they were really fun. There was a lot of like

1115
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 4: funny moments for the spirits do you kind of poke

1116
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: fun at you or interact with you? And there was

1117
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: one story that I'll tell you that came through the

1118
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: Franks box, like we asked, or Greg asked, is there

1119
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 4: one thing that you would like to tell the world, Like,

1120
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: what is one thing if you have the opportunity for

1121
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 4: the whole world to be your audience, what would it be?

1122
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: And the spirit said the naked guy or like the

1123
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 4: naked man, naked man and Greg and Dana had no

1124
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 4: idea what this was about, but Sabrina and I did

1125
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 4: because when we did the overnight or sorry, when we

1126
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 4: did the day tour the day before our tour guide

1127
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 4: was Corey Hinzen who his family had owned the house

1128
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: previously for three years, and he told us that there

1129
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 4: was a foreign reality TV show that came in and

1130
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: filmed there. Well, basically the premise of the show was

1131
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 4: every single episode there would be someone who would be

1132
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: plopped in a house and no one would know where

1133
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 4: they were staying or what was special about this house,

1134
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 4: but the house would be haunted. So it was like

1135
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: to see if any hauntings would happen to person.

1136
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: What they knew, because this guy clearly did not know

1137
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: their cameras either, No.

1138
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 4: He didn't because he was like fully naked like penis

1139
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 4: out all night walking awayd was that.

1140
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: One of the rules you had to be naked or no,

1141
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: this is just he just chose.

1142
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 4: This is why we did not know if he knew

1143
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 4: if there were cameras. But what was so funny when

1144
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 4: we heard like the spirits when asked what's one thing

1145
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 4: that they want to talk about, they were like, why

1146
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 4: are people not talking about that naked guy? They loved

1147
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: the naked guy coming. They probably don't hear any of them.

1148
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 4: It was refreshing, right because everyone else comes in with like, yeah,

1149
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: exactly Dick's swing and.

1150
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: A lot if he's I think the whole night he

1151
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: just got in there and just took his clothes off,

1152
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: and he's like, this is how I'm.

1153
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: Going to do this.

1154
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 4: He made himself comfortable. I'm wondering. I'm wondering if that

1155
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: episode ever was able to be aired.

1156
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 2: Can I say, is this a real show?

1157
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: Like?

1158
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: Can you I have know? Does it exist somewhere?

1159
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 4: Now? I don't know we should.

1160
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will be damned if we go find some

1161
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: naked guy with like these cameras and.

1162
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 4: What to him? Because clearly this guy. Yeah, were they

1163
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: so shocked at what was happening that they just like

1164
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 4: were stunned.

1165
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: Watching it to get on this show?

1166
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, the Spirits were they

1167
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: were very active. Okay, can I Actually this makes me

1168
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: want to tell I don't know if we've ever told

1169
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 3: you about this, the ghost penis. We have caught an

1170
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: image of a spectral being before. We were in New

1171
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: Orleans and we went to Lafitte's blacksmith's shop, which is

1172
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: like infamously haunted, and I was taking a picture of

1173
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: Krin and my friend Scout sitting in front of the

1174
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 3: fireplace where a lot of people see faces like of

1175
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: the sky, like John Lafitte. Yeah, and I'm taking a

1176
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: picture and I take one live photo and one regular

1177
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: photo within the same minute. The live photo there's nothing,

1178
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: but in the still photo right behind my friend's Scout's

1179
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: nose is a spirit looking thing and as we zoom in.

1180
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 4: It is it's an ectoplasmic penis. That thing is like

1181
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 4: a little tiny blue penis. Penis.

1182
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what did it look like a penis?

1183
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 4: It was?

1184
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: It was mostly I don't know.

1185
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 3: That was the only time we've ever been in the tabloids.

1186
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, truly. My only quote online is Corinvyhan from Two Girls,

1187
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 4: One Ghost said quote, Yep, that's definitely a penis.

1188
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: Should I know one when I see one?

1189
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 4: When I see one.

1190
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: Where was it in the picture?

1191
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 4: I can it was like right by her house.

1192
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: She's in her face, behind her, behind her face.

1193
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 4: It's in the fireplace that everyone else sees his face.

1194
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 4: And we were on Sabrina's bachelrette trips, so we were like,

1195
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 4: of course the bachelorette party, like actually gets shown his penis.

1196
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 2: Not his face, right right? Yeah, I mean so it

1197
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: mean how big? Was it?

1198
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 4: Nothing? Thrilling? Yeah, he's not going to get a reputation.

1199
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: But it was clearly a penis, so we could tell

1200
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 3: it look like something.

1201
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just a little ghost penis.

1202
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, very perfect for two girls on ghost Yeah.

1203
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, I mean I guess, but there was no body.

1204
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: It was just just a penis, just that.

1205
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to see this. Yeah, okay, that's that's wild.

1206
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 4: And I'm curious what you'll think.

1207
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know if it's like, oh yeah,

1208
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: that's penis for sure, or if it's like please it

1209
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: is it like definitive enough? Well, i'll see, I'll see.

1210
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'll be the judge.

1211
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 4: You can judge. You can be honest too. If you're

1212
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 4: like I think you guys are.

1213
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: Like, wow, that's huge.

1214
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 4: Are you talking about that small.

1215
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 3: So here's the photo, the live photo. So there's nothing

1216
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: in here.

1217
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: Okay, this is Scout and that is me, and that's

1218
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: the fireplaces the face chase, and nothing's in there. We're

1219
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: sitting on like folding chairs.

1220
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: And now.

1221
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 4: Look it has the mushroom top, it has the testees,

1222
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: it's got a shaft.

1223
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's my brightness, a very fallic right.

1224
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 4: That's that looks like it?

1225
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of what I was picturing in

1226
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: my head is.

1227
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 4: A blue spectral penis.

1228
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: And if it's nice, it's sure as hell looks like one.

1229
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1230
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so now you've seen Jean's penis.

1231
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: You learned something every day.

1232
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1233
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 2: Wow.

1234
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 4: People don't think about these things as an opportunity to

1235
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 4: be seen when they're thinking about seeing a ghost, right,

1236
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 4: and we didn't.

1237
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: Either, Like when I ever see the ghost penis right

1238
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: right now?

1239
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: People worry about spirits, watching them shower and like, oh,

1240
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 4: they can watch me change and sometimes you accidentally see them.

1241
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 4: I will say.

1242
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: It's a very creative haunting.

1243
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

1244
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: What would you do?

1245
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 4: What would your signature moved be? You?

1246
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: Like how you transitioned like straight from like his guy,

1247
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: This guy's a flasher ghost, what would you do?

1248
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: And I'm like, uh not that.

1249
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, like if I was pranking somebody or

1250
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: just do you get to choose one or can you

1251
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: just do whatever you want?

1252
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: Okay?

1253
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: If you were showing up as a ghost to us,

1254
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: what would you do?

1255
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: Okay?

1256
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like i'd have to like try

1257
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: to scare you, but in a funny way, okay, like

1258
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: whisper something like really weird.

1259
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 3: But like what we actually do have a code word

1260
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 3: if one of us dies before the other that we

1261
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 3: can deliver a message through someone else to the other person.

1262
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 4: Like someone at a bar walks up to us and says,

1263
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: I don't know why I have to say this, but

1264
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 4: I just need to tell you this, And then they.

1265
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: Say the code work passes and you're just like with

1266
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: a stranger and they send along a message.

1267
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: Yes, so what is it or is it a secret?

1268
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 3: Well, we just came up with a new one so

1269
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: we can say our old one, yeah, because we accidentally

1270
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 3: said it on an episode that the old one was

1271
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 3: purple panties.

1272
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: Purple pants.

1273
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: That would be a strange thing for a stranger to

1274
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 4: come up and like, I have to tell you purple panties. Yeah,

1275
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 4: you're you're shopping, You're putting your heart in piggly wiggling.

1276
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 4: Someone's like, purple panties.

1277
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go around saying that, no exactly.

1278
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 4: That's how we would know. I already forgot our new one, though.

1279
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 3: I know.

1280
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: We'll listen back and all the one time.

1281
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: That's totally cool for a strained to behave purple purple panties.

1282
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: They're like, okay, it's apropope again.

1283
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's safe to say that in your experience,

1284
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: the Conjuring House was haunted.

1285
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: Definitely. It was definitely on definitely hunt the deal. Yeah,

1286
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 4: oh yeah. We walked away feeling a lot more like

1287
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 4: respectful and understanding of the spirits that were there. Though

1288
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people go in expecting similar

1289
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 4: to kind of we did go in expecting to be horrified. Yeah,

1290
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: and I don't think we were ever horrified. We were

1291
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: very intrigued in.

1292
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: I was scared when we heard an EVP that said midnight,

1293
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: and Greg was like, what happens at midnight? And I

1294
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 3: heard clear as day death, I said it, three different

1295
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: voices said death, death, I.

1296
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: Mean time to go right.

1297
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 3: And then at midnight or like eleven fifty eight, were

1298
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: down in the basement of the Conjuring House and Dana

1299
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: and Greg are talking about the coron of cat Skills,

1300
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 3: which is this like terrifying object that they have a

1301
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 3: documentary that just came out about it.

1302
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 4: And I'm like, looking at my phone.

1303
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, so it's almost midnight. Can we like

1304
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: stop talking about scary things until after midnight? And Everyone's

1305
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 3: like for two seconds, yeah, yeah, yeah. Two seconds later

1306
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 3: Danny goes, isn't this the basement like where that hide

1307
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 3: and clap scene from the Conjuring movie takes place?

1308
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 4: And I was like, it's eleven fifty nine.

1309
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna run of my car real quick, I think

1310
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: with my chat stick in there.

1311
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, we were, we made it past.

1312
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so you're you're live.

1313
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 3: We're live, We're live. Yeah okay, But I feel like

1314
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 3: we've waited long enough to know.

1315
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 4: What the surprise is.

1316
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

1317
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, I've been thinking about it all this whole time.

1318
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: I got you guys a gift. I got you a

1319
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: little gift.

1320
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 4: Why am I nervous?

1321
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: Here we go?

1322
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 4: Payne? Are you fucking kidding me? I knew my heart

1323
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 4: I knew it.

1324
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: My heart is pounded. Are you gonna make us play.

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 4: With the Ouiji board? You can watch? I mean, I'm participating.

1326
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 2: I'm in see And that's why I have like having

1327
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: you sit here, because I knew you'd be.

1328
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 4: Like, I'm like, okay, my heart beat, I can feel

1329
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 4: it right now. Boom boom boom.

1330
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a the world's smallest Ouiji board.

1331
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, it's very cute.

1332
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 4: It is cute. Did you buy a new one or

1333
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 4: is this the one that you were telling us about?

1334
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: This is the one?

1335
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 4: So you never unwrapped it?

1336
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: Is this? I bought a bunch of little tiny games

1337
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: like this, and I thought it was just so cute

1338
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: looking and cool it is.

1339
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: Then I'm like, I'm not going to like use this.

1340
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: It says yes, actually works.

1341
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, okay, what does that mean? Like it

1342
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: actually works? So have you ever used the Ouiji war before?

1343
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 4: I have and totally made contact with some spirit, but

1344
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: like it was in middle school, So.

1345
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know, yeah used one. I have not,

1346
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: and then find some evil spirit in here and like

1347
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: screw up my sleep tonight or haunt me, then you'll

1348
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: us instead of I'm down to to try it. Do

1349
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: you know how to do it?

1350
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: I mean yes, yes, yes, ok And we just have

1351
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: a set intensions and make sure we say goodbye.

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01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: Those are like the biggest rules, okay. And you know

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01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: how to do that.

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01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're going to do it correctly, so we don't,

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01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: I hope. So get permanently haunted or something?

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01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 4: Find out or yeah?

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01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 2: Who does it have the age on there? Like you know,

1358
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: it's like you know, ten and up? Or what does

1359
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: it say?

1360
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 4: Not for children under three?

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01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 2: So if you're four, you're good.

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01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 4: As soon as you can talk.

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01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 2: You can totally talk with the evil spirits, you're right,

1364
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: But three that's the cutoff right there. So how do

1365
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: we do this? Okay?

1366
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 4: Maybe I will play.

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01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, or maybe you all play. I'll just watch.

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01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 4: You have to pay part of it, okay, all right,

1369
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 4: Like I'm being influenced.

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01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 2: All right, So who's going to open it up? Not

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 2: it nose? It goes.

1372
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 4: Like gathering around the witchy board. Wow, that is the

1373
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 4: tiniest plante I've ever seen.

1374
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it too small? Is this show?

1375
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 4: I don't know. I also feel like I'm shaking.

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 3: I am saying okay before we begin, we should set intentions,

1377
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 3: so basically, we're not trying to provoke anything evil. Only positive,

1378
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 3: good love and light is allowed here absolutely, and nothing

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01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: is allowed to follow us home?

1380
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 4: Correct?

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01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: Correct? Great, y'all get that?

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01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 4: Got it? Great? We're trusting you.

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01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 2: Okay, when we each put a finger to say something

1384
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 2: after that or is it?

1385
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 4: Well, then you each put one finger on the plan

1386
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 4: chat this little mini plan chet, but do it as

1387
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 4: lately as you possibly can, so that you're not really

1388
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 4: it's amante. I know, I am sure, all sure, it's

1389
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 4: so tiny, it's hard.

1390
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, right now.

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01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 3: You're supposed to ask the question. Don't abandon Sabrina.

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01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 4: We're both on it.

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01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 3: Okay, now you can start asking. We ask, are there

1394
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: any spirits here with us?

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01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 4: I feel like you're moving?

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01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm jaking, I'm nervous. Okay, okay, we'll try.

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01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 4: Is there anyone in this airbnb with us? Did you

1398
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 4: rent the one non hunted?

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01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean it doesn't look very haunted.

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01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: Should we also put my necorvonic gap onto?

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01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting?

1402
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, let's let's let's let's open.

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01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 3: I'm also got to remember to take goodbye even if

1404
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 3: we don't believe that this thing is right.

1405
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, We're like, there's nothing there, and I'm like, guys,

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01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: there is someone in the room now, like, what did

1407
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: you guys do to see that? That's my fear is that,

1408
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh man, this is just a game, and someone's gonna

1409
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: come remind me later on tonight that it's not a game.

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01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So what's doing with my microphone?

1411
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: By this? And then Sabrina, you can ask questions? Okay,

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01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 3: are there any spirits?

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01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 2: I heard?

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01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 4: I am?

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01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 4: Wait, do you want to communicate with us using the

1417
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 4: Ouiji board?

1418
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: Oh? Shoot?

1419
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 4: Kind of.

1420
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: Are you guys? Are you pushing it?

1421
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 4: Or is that just like all of the vibration of

1422
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 4: all of us are shaking?

1423
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 3: Is there any message you would like to share with us?

1424
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: Mhm? What was that? Okay?

1425
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 4: Okay, it is spooky, though it is.

1426
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: It sounds terrifying.

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01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 4: Would you like to communicate with us? I wish we'd

1428
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 4: brought all of our other equipment to do you have

1429
01:06:55,400 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 4: anything in your backpack? I don't think I do what

1430
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 4: I'm talking about into our insecure Okay, here we go,

1431
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 4: I got one.

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01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: If there's any hey, if there's any spirit spirit in here?

1433
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: Are these real witches.

1434
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 4: I think that was a due.

1435
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 2: It was a sure do.

1436
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 4: What are you wearing?

1437
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: Our ghosts? Penis is real? They are, they are.

1438
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 3: It's supposed to sweep through the radio is the same

1439
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: way that like a spirit box does, but I definitely

1440
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 3: does that.

1441
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: It just like, yeah, it's like it could sound less spooky.

1442
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be a little clearer or like we

1443
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 4: can't even hear the scan of like.

1444
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 3: That's yeah, yeah, all right, should we close out? Yeah? Sure.

1445
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 4: We have to keep our fingers on.

1446
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 2: And we have to say, okay, don't mess this part up.

1447
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you don't mess this part up.

1448
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: Okay, don't know lifting of the finger, yeah, okay.

1449
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 4: Thank you to whoever is here for the opportunity to

1450
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 4: speak to you. We are going to say our goodbyes now.

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01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 4: We appreciate your efforts and wish you the best of

1452
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 4: times staying here.

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01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: We are closing our conversation and communication with you at

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01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 3: this time.

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01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: What they said, and thank you for your time and

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: please don't haunt me. So for the listener who is

1457
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: totally I'm not into any of this stuff. I think

1458
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: it's all fake. Obviously getting your name, you're on my list,

1459
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: What would you say? To them in terms of maybe

1460
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: opening their mind a little bit.

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01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: If you like good stories, you don't have to believe

1462
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: in them. You could just be like, oh, this is

1463
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: a fun story.

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01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 4: And I think that there's a lot that happens around

1465
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 4: us that we sometimes write off as something else. And

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01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 4: it's like if you take a pause and you take

1467
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 4: a moment and you actually try to think about what

1468
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 4: just happened to you, or recreate something that happened that

1469
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 4: might have seemed odd, like something falling off of a bookshelf.

1470
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 4: If you can't recreate it, then perhaps that is something

1471
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 4: trying to get or someone trying to get your attention.

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01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 4: I think it's easy to put up our blinders and

1473
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 4: be like, oh, must have been the wind, even though

1474
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 4: all my doors and windows are closed and I don't

1475
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 4: even have air conditioning in here. I think it's easier

1476
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 4: to just be like, I don't believe because sometimes it's

1477
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 4: scary and it rocks all of my core beliefs that

1478
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 4: I might already have. Yeah, but I think if you

1479
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 4: just think for a moment, and unfortunately, I feel like

1480
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 4: it does take certain people losing someone or like a

1481
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 4: pet or someone close to them to start to open

1482
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 4: up and start to recognize some of the signs that

1483
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 4: happen around us.

1484
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 3: I think the paranormal also offers a lot of hope

1485
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 3: and like hell Sa in the sense that death is scary,

1486
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 3: we don't know what comes after it it, so believing

1487
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 3: in the paranormal in the afterlife kind of offers you

1488
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 3: a little bit of a solace if you lose someone

1489
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 3: like krint saying, to know that maybe they're still there

1490
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: and watching over you.

1491
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's less doom and gloom that way.

1492
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1493
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: Well, thank you guys for being here.

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01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: This was fun and I really hope that we did

1495
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: not conjure some ghosts and if we did, he leaves

1496
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 1: with you guys.

1497
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: And not with me.

1498
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 4: We have some cleansing material.

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01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 5: Cool.

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01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: So if I if you receive a call from me

1501
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: like two in the morning tonight, answer it because I'm

1502
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: I probably need your help. Robert Scooby, do that stuff

1503
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: I said about this being a fun little game and

1504
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: be like, holy shit.

1505
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 4: Where we do this is serious?

1506
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, you guys are fun and I'm

1507
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 2: going to be at your show tonight.

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01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 4: Thanks for having us, of course for supporting us.

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01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:49,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1510
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 4: Maybe more will happen tonight.

1511
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 2: It might maybe we just like poked at it this

1512
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 2: wall just yeah maybe.

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01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: If all the things you're saying are true, that they

1515
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: all you around and stuff, then they they're like, I

1516
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: will save it.

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01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 4: Normally when things happen, we blame it on our podcast Gusts,

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01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 4: but I think tonight we'll blame it on you. Yeah.

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01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 2: Okay, cool. Hopefully not lame.

1521
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 4: Hopefully it's something fun.

1522
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah cool man.

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01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, another ghost penis Yeah.

1524
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like wow, takes up the whole room, like, wait,

1525
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: is pain dead? Where is it? So? No, he's just

1526
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: really asleep.

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01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: He's back at the Airbnb Apple projector and I'm like,

1528
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy.

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01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 2: End on that note. Well, thank you guys, that was

1530
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: funk you.

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Speaker 6: Talking to Death is a production of tenderfoot TV and

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Speaker 6: iHeart podcast created and hosted by Payne Lindsay. For Tenderfoot TV,

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Speaker 6: executive producers are Payne Lindsay and Donald Albright. Co executive

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Speaker 6: producer is Mike Rudey. For iHeart Podcasts, executive producers are

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Speaker 6: Matt Frederick and Alex Williams. With original music by Makeup

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Speaker 6: and Vanity Set. Additional production by Mike Rooney Dylan Harrington

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Speaker 6: and mastering by Cooper Skinner and Dayton Cole. Our cover

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Speaker 6: art was created by Rob Sheridan. Check out our website

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of Talking to Death.

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