1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We get ready for the Nets in the 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Bucks game. Six Hawks over the seventies sixers last night, 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: and the Hawks the Pesky Hawks are up three games 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: to two in this series. Clippers over the Jazz, typical Clippers. Yeah, 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: they're not gonna win this game, and then they do. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: They're up three games to two in the series. Come 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: up with the poll question, play of the day, stat 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: of the day, Say good morning to our TV partner, 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: that's Peacock, our streaming service, download the app watch on 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: three hours for free. And our radio affiliates around the country. 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: Of course, the Fox Sports radio lineup, iHeart Radio as well. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: The Gang is here. If last night seventy Sixers Jazz 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: losses taught us anything, it's the number one seed doesn't 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: mean that much. Both teams were at home, Both teams favored. 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Seventy Sixers blew a twenty six point lead. Jazz couldn't 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: take advantage of a Clippers team that didn't have Kawhi Leonard. 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: These games are a reminder that the playoffs are a 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: whole different ball game than the regular season. Philadelphia is 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: trying to hide Ben Simmons poor free throw shooting in 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: the regular season, and they did a pretty good job. 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: But in the playoffs, Oh, it's front and center. We'll 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: hear from Ben coming up in a moment. The Jazz 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: a great three point shooting team during the regular season, 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: and they were last night in the first half. They 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: were seventeen of thirty from three point range in the 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: first half. That's what teams do for an entire game. 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: But the Clippers were only down five and a halftime 29 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: thanks to Paul George. That's what I thought was really telling. 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: The Jazz were doing what the Jazz did during the 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: regular season, and it didn't matter. The Clippers weren't going 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: away seventeen threes in the first half, three in the 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: second half. Now neither series is over. Can you count 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: on the Clippers to close out the Jazz game six? 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: What about the Hawks? Can they close out the seventy sixers. 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: We'll see how both of these teams respond to the 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: pressure or if they're going to blow a great opportunity 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: to have a deep postseason run. You got the Nets 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: who were sort of on the ropes a little bit. 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: The Lakers aren't in there. This is wide open and 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: there's going to be some coaches, some gms, some owners 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: who say we had a great opportunity. We missed an 43 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: opportunity here to try to slip in and maybe steal 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: an NBA championship eight seven seven three d P Show 45 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: email address tp A dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: at DP show. We'll start with the seventy sixers blowing 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: that lead. Here's Doc Rivers, the seventy sixers head coach. Listen, 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: we score nineteen points and gave up forty. So it's 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: on us, It's on all of us, is on me, 50 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: it's on the players, and we have to figure out 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: how to get back up, which we will and bring 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: this game back here for game seven. And then you 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: have Ben Simmons, who finally admitted but most of his 54 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: thought when it comes to shooting free throws, even though 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: you've never been the best free throw shooter, do you 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: feel at this problem at this point your problem is 57 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: more mental than the form. Definitely. I think mental. No, 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: we were up, we had it, and I think we 59 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: just gave it so we got too comfortable and didn't 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: play the way we should be playing. When you say 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: it's mental, that's big. He's four or fourteen from the line. 62 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: He was twenty two for sixty seven for the playoffs. 63 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: That's thirty two percent in NBA history. Among the players 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: who have attempted at least forty free throws in the postseason, 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: only Ben Wallace has a worst postseason free throw percentage, 66 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: and he shot twenty seven percent. Stat of the day, 67 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: stat of the day, that past stat of the day, 68 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: stat of the day here comes that what stat of 69 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: the day. Can't be a superstar in a liability, you can't. 70 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: And that's what you have with Ben Simmons. I know 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers is trying to say the right things about 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, and for everybody who tells me you know, 73 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: he's unique, and he puts pressure on the defense, and 74 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: he can get to the hoop and he can. First 75 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: of all, he's like Lonzo Ball. He's a taller, left 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: handed version of Lonzo Ball. In fact, Lonzo might be 77 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: a better shooter than him. But he's a liability because 78 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to take it to the hoop now, 79 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to get fouled. He doesn't want 80 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: to go to the free throw line. He hurts you 81 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: in a variety of ways here. Oh, he's a walking mismatch. 82 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: He's like magic. He can take over a game, doesn't 83 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: have to score. I haven't seen it. Hey, he can 84 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: rebound and he can pass and okay, but he's a 85 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: liability and maybe he's just a good player. He's not great. 86 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Good Joel Mbid is great. But the mental part of 87 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: this is sad because I don't root for Ben root 88 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: against Ben Simmons. You know, I want to see great 89 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: players be great. But when it gets to be mental, 90 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: that's different. And we've seen this before. We've seen athletes 91 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: who it gets to them. It happens in golf all 92 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: the time. You know. Quarterbacks they see ghosts, you know, 93 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: they see things that aren't there. Baseball players, hey, I 94 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: can't even throw the ball over to first base from 95 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: second base. I can't throw it back to the pitcher. 96 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm on the mount. I can't throw it to the catcher. 97 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: The mental aspect of this is something very very serious. 98 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Now it's just free throws, but it metastasizes, it becomes 99 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: more than that, and then on you know, when you 100 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. Now everybody sees it. If Ben 101 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: Simmons goes four for fourteen from the line during a 102 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: regular season game, against the Hawks in February. No one cares. 103 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Suddenly everybody cares. And for him to say it's mental, 104 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: It's one thing to think it, it's another thing to 105 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: say it. This program is brought to you by Dollars 106 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Shave Club. If you're looking for that last minute gift 107 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: for Father's Day, you can go to Dollar shapeclub dot com. 108 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: Slash Patrick. From Dollar Shape club dot com slash Patrick. 109 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: As for the Clippers, Paul George did what Paul George 110 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: is supposed to do. You were the franchise player in Indiana, 111 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. You finish top three MVP one year, and 112 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: you lived in Kawai's shadow. There was no Kawhi, no shadow, 113 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: and he was wonderful last night. Here is Paul George 114 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: after last night's win. There was just no secret coming 115 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: into this one. Trust me little, trust in me, and 116 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, I thought, we just we lived in a 117 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: moment and we just played our harts all tonight. Yeah. 118 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: I give him credit, well he kept him. I thought. 119 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: The reason why they won this game is because Paul 120 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: George was wonderful in the first half. He didn't let 121 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: the Jazz build up an insurmountable lead at home, family 122 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: led by five and a half time. You know, Marcus Morris, 123 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: he had another great game. He had twenty five postseason 124 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: career high. Reggie Jackson once again, Terrence Mann, this is 125 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: what you need. I don't know if Kawhai is going 126 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: to be able to play in this series. I think 127 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: that's still up in the air. And I give Tylu 128 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: a lot of credit because I think he's great at 129 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: adjusting in a game. And if it's lineups, matchups. I 130 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: thought they exposed Rudy Gobert. Like it's weird when you 131 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: say somebody's the defensive player of the year, but he's 132 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: not a factor, you know. Ben Simmons, Oh, he should 133 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: be up there for defensive player of the year. Is 134 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: he really a factor? Like it seems like it's a 135 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: silly award. Hey, he's the defensive player of the year. 136 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: All right, We're just gonna run a pick and roll 137 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: and then we'll take advantage of that. We'll neutralize him. 138 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: And that's what they've done. Ben Simmons, he's a great defender. 139 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: Can he guard Trey Young? Well, you know, no, not really. 140 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: Philadelphia can't guard these small guys. And by the way, 141 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: this isn't just on Ben Simmons. It's an embarrassment. Tobias Harris. 142 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: You're getting paid big boy bucks. Joe Wellenbad is out 143 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: there playing his heart out and probably shouldn't be out there, 144 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: gonna need knee surgery. But somebody's got to want to 145 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: be the second best player on the floor for the 146 00:08:54,280 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: Philadelphia seventy six ers. I mean, come on, you gotta 147 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: get somebody to step up. And the Hawks aren't going 148 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: away like once again, they don't know enough to be 149 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: overmatched or nervous in a situation like that. They haven't 150 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: been here. They're like, hey, let's go out, let's play. 151 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: When you're down that many points and you come back. 152 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: It says a lot about both of these teams. And 153 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers love Doc, known Doc since he played in Atlanta. 154 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: But Doc has got a resume of, you know, these 155 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: kind of games in the postseason. He won the title 156 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: with the Celtics and that kind of washed away everything 157 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: prior to it. But last night, you can't hold on 158 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: to a twenty six point lead. This happened a lot 159 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: of times when he was with the Clippers, but that 160 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: was that was some interesting basketball last night. I stopped 161 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: watching the Hawks in the seventy six ers. I think 162 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: I tuned in there might have been two minutes to go, 163 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: and I went, you got to be kidding me. I 164 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: thought it was a mere formality, and then all of 165 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: a sudden, you watched the start of the Jazz and 166 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: the Clippers, and the Jazz are just shooting the lights out, 167 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: and I thought, can they continue to do that as 168 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: a team? Ken Paul George continued to do that as 169 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: an individual, and I was betting on the Jazz doing that, 170 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: and you're at home. The seventy six Ers, you're at home. 171 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: Both of these franchises could look back on these performances 172 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: in Game five and say, what hell just happened. Be 173 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick 174 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on 175 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio a app. Chris 176 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: Sims Pro Football Talk Live co host has got his 177 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: quarterback list, and I'm always fascinated with this because Simms 178 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: is not afraid. He'll put out this list top forty quarterbacks. 179 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: And he's down to his top five, actually down to 180 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: his top four, because I'm looking at the list here. 181 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is five. Lamar Jackson six, Kyler Murray seven, 182 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford eight, Dak Prescott nine, Tom Brady is ten. 183 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: It's bring in Chris Sims from Pro Football Talk Life. 184 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: All right, give me the criteria for how you set 185 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: up the rankings, Chris, Sure, I gotta you know, forty quarterbacks. 186 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: It's basically my depth chart, Dan, That's how I do it. 187 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: Everybody's playing on the same team. We're not taking the 188 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: advantages of oh, this guy has this or this coach 189 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, it's the same team. It's the 190 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: same coaches. And here's my depth chart one through forty 191 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: going into the twenty twenty one season. All Right, we 192 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: have some we have some questions here, Sure, who wants 193 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: to start, Holly, I'll let you start with Sims. I 194 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: don't know how obvious I want to go here. I 195 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: guess I'll go obviously so I have a better chance 196 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: to win with Matthew Stafford is my quarterback than Tom 197 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: Brady is my quarterback? Well, yeah, I do believe that. Listen, 198 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: Brady hey leadership. You know what he brought to that team. 199 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: It's really special. And I took that all into account. 200 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: In fact, I bumped him up in front of people 201 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: where I would go, they're more talented, they can do 202 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: more on the field than he can. But for that 203 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: scenario and what he did with Tampa, he was the 204 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: perfect fit. They needed polish down there and all those 205 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: type of things. Yes, okay, But at the same time, 206 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of issues in like Tom Brady's game 207 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: is not perfect, you know, and Matthew Stafford. Don't get 208 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: so blinded by you know, Detroit Lions and their record 209 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: and everything like that. That's the only thing I would 210 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: argue with you there is. I mean, who did you 211 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: think Detroit was supposed to beat last year? What on 212 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: their roster was really that special that you think Matt 213 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: Stafford was supposed to look so great and do all 214 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: those type of things. You know, y'all can look at 215 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and go, hey, they lost five losses in 216 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: the regular season. You can legitimately look at all five 217 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: and go the main culprit and all five losses was 218 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, let alone. The NFC Championship game and those 219 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: issues too. So Brady's awesome, His arm is still awesome. 220 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: He makes very few plays off of schedule. He needs 221 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: a certain type of support system around him. Right now, 222 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: as to where I look at some of these other 223 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: guys and go they don't need it, and they can 224 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: still make things happen and go that way. It's a 225 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: tough one, and I know that's the one that everybody 226 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: looks at it and nobody's happy unless I make Brady 227 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: one or two. That's the only thing I can make happy, 228 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: make everybody happy. Now, I wouldn't put him there, but 229 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: I would. I would put him ahead. You put him 230 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: ahead of those guys? Yeah, yeah, I would. Sure. You 231 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: don't like Jared Goff at all? Man, you got you 232 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: got him thirty one, You got three rookies ahead of him, 233 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: you got Jamis Winston, it, you got Taysom Hill ahead 234 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: of Jared Gonf. Yeah, you know Jared Goff. You know, 235 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: tell me what am I signing up for? You know? 236 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: Is it Sean mcvay's offense. I don't know, But I 237 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: mean again, with Jared Goff, there's experience, certainly, but not 238 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: the experience where I would like to see it to 239 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: be for a guy that's played as long as he 240 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: has and been to the super Bowl. You know, there's 241 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: just too many plays when you watch it and reevaluate 242 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: where I go. Man, bad decision, you know, not understanding 243 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: the full scope of the game. Hey, it's a bootleg. 244 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: It's third and one, you know, nobody's open and go 245 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: run for the first down. And he throws the ball 246 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: away or like tries to throw the ball into double coverage. 247 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: You know that that to me concerns me let alone, 248 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: like not great ability. You know, nothing he does off 249 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: schedule to help the football team. That way, not a 250 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: top tier thrower the football And you know, yeah, so yes, 251 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: I look at it that way. And let's not forget Dan. 252 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: They were doing everything they could in life to start 253 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: John Wolford at the end of the year. They did 254 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: not want to start Jared Goffe. That was because the 255 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: play was not good. So you know, yeah, that's that's 256 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: where I stand with him right now. All right, mclovin 257 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: your question for sums, Okay, you have Kyler Murray at 258 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: number seven, the Cardinals quarterback. If he's the seventh best 259 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: quarterback and he has all these Hall of famers everywhere 260 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: on this roster and all this hound, how come nobody 261 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: thinks the Cardinals are gonna do anything this year. I've 262 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: generally considered the fourth best team in that division. Yeah, 263 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: I agreed, you know, but it's not all about the quarterback. 264 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: You know, let's let's let's stop that stop. You know, mclovin, 265 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: I know, you know, he makes them considerably better in 266 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: my opinion. You know, they're one of the top rushing 267 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: offenses in football. Not because they're all line is greater, 268 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: the running backs great. It's because Kyler Murray's unbelievable as scrambling, 269 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: the threat he has to run with the quarterback design 270 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: run plays or the read options that opens up everything. 271 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, so sure. He's not like the most 272 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: responsible out of like all quarterbacks as far as improving 273 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: their offense or making it look a lot better than 274 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: it really is. You know, their scheme itself is nothing special. 275 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: I break this down on my podcast all the time. 276 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: You know, we do Dion Hopkins his route combinations. I mean, 277 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: it's it's limited. It's a lot of that spread for wide. 278 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: It's a little predictable, and he is the reason it goes. 279 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see can aj Green help them out? 280 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: You know, we'll see if Larry Fitzgerald plays at all 281 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: those things. But he's a special, special talent that you know, 282 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: it's hard to always quantify his effect on the game 283 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: or qualify it, you know, through stats, because of the 284 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: pressure he does put on your defense, because of his 285 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: skill set. Yes, time, you got a question. So, Chris, 286 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: you have Drew Locke at thirty three, a lot higher 287 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: up on the board than I thought. So there's some 288 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: positivity I should have. If they can't get Aaron Rodgers, 289 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: there's hope for Denver to chase Kansas City. Drew Locke has, 290 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: like Fritzie, some big time, top end talent. Like I 291 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: excited about the positives, if we've sat all down together 292 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: and watched Drew Locke the positives, we'd all go whoa, whoa. 293 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: Man here, You're right. He is a little better, makes 294 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: a little more, you know, makes more plays than I thought. 295 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: He does have an explosive. He is a pretty good athlete. 296 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: The big thing, as you know, Fritzie, because I know 297 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: you're a Broncos fan. He's got us take that like 298 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: Brett Fard element out of his game. Not every throw 299 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: has to be a twenty five yard laser in between 300 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: four people to fit it in there. And that's enough. 301 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: That's enough talk about the Broncos. Okay, shut it off, Fritzie. Uh, 302 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: you got Ryan Tannehill ahead of Baker Mayfield. Ryan Tannehill 303 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: at number twelve. Baker Mayfield. And do you like Baker Mayfield? 304 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: Do you do just tolerate Baker Mayfield? No, I do 305 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield. I do to me. Last year it 306 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: was a huge year for him, like showed progress, like 307 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: maturity on it off the field. And the one thing 308 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: that just really pop to me was how many high level, 309 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: high degree of difficulty throws Baker Mayfield made during the year, 310 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: especially the second half of the year. You know, he's 311 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: got a great innate ability to wear. I don't call 312 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: him a great runner, but he's a great mover. You know, 313 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: he hops around in the pocket and he can make 314 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: throws kind of from weird angles, or he's got a 315 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: bootleg and the defense ends there to get him, and 316 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: he kind of makes a move and breaks his ankle 317 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: and still gets to throw where you know, he's running 318 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: full speed on a bootleg and there's Jarvis Landry twenty 319 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: five yards down field and he's opened by three inches 320 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: and man, he rips it in there and doesn't think 321 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: twice and throws it perfectly. So it's an offense that's 322 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: not necessarily always quarterback friendly with all these crazy things 323 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: they do. They ask their quarterback to make big time 324 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: explosive throws, and he fixed his mechanics. Last year, he 325 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: played the game better and he made a number of 326 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: big time plays to help their team win football games. 327 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: We're talking to Chris Sims Pro Football Talk Live. Is 328 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: number one on the list going to be controversial? No, no, 329 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: I will say my top four, as you know, I 330 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: have not revealed that yet, and that will be Monday, 331 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: and if you guys want to have me back next 332 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: week to talk about or whatever, I do think there's 333 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: gonna be one here in the top four that's gonna 334 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: people are gonna go, whoa. Okay, So that's all I'll 335 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: say to that to tease it. But this is a 336 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: it's a tough exercise, as you can imagine. I'm just 337 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: setting myself to get crapped on by everybody and I 338 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: deal with it every year. But you know, you ask 339 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: for this, christ I do well. An NBC asked me 340 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: to do it. I don't ask. I don't go, hey, 341 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: let's do it. But it's part of what I do 342 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: and I do enjoy it to a degree. It helps 343 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: me get better feel for the quarterbacks and and you know, 344 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: kind of have that jump off point for the next year. 345 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: And the other thing you realized, Dan, there's a lot 346 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: of damn good quarterbacks in football right now. A lot 347 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: of them, there really is. And it's it's about the 348 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: support system and to see how good they're gonna be. 349 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: You've got to a tongue of ioloa. Thirty fourth. Yeah, 350 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: there's only thirty two teams, So he's not good enough 351 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: to start in your opinion, Well, he's not one of 352 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: the thirty two best of the way I see it 353 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, there's question mark certainly. I mean you 354 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: saw last year again it was good, but they had 355 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: a micro manage him, you know, and then whenever they 356 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: had to let it loose, we gotta take him out. 357 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: We gotta put Ryan Fitzpatrick in. He's admitted he didn't 358 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: know the offense as well. He didn't make that many 359 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: plays with his right arm or anything like that, you know. So, yeah, 360 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions, you know, and it's 361 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: that's the one that seems to be the most polarizing. 362 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: People think I hate too. I root for him. I 363 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: like the guy's charismatic as hell. There's no doubt about it. 364 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's nothing to write home about last year 365 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: to where I go. Man, that's special and I'm I'm 366 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: he's ready to jump into the top twenty. I gotta 367 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: see more and to believe that. So Mahomes will be one. Um, 368 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: you're funny. Aaron Rodgers is two. I'm not telling you anything. 369 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: What about what about his mindset? Is he totally committed 370 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: to playing football here? I don't know. You'll have to 371 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: you know what you'll have to do. He's in love. 372 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: He wants to do Jeopardy. I don't know where is 373 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: his mind? Well maybe Chris Simms took that into account, 374 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: and maybe you should watch my podcast on Monday and 375 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: I'll explain all these answers. Toe you. Where is DeShawn 376 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: Watson He's not even on the board. Well, he's gonna 377 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: be in those top four he is, He's coming up. Yeah, 378 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not avoiding him right now. I mean, 379 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: I know there's you got to Shaun Watson one of 380 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: the top four quarterbacks in the NFL right now? Yes, 381 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: I do, yes, without a doubt, no doubt. Yes, he 382 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: is a superstar. Josh Allen's gonna be there. Aaron run Patrick, Yeah, 383 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: you got the four that are left. Okay, Yeah, Watson 384 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: probably had the best year of his career last year. Now, 385 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: it didn't translate to wins or losses. Yeah, I get that, 386 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: but I mean it's horrible defense, no run game, no receivers. 387 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: You know, they were highly competitive in a lot of 388 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: games where I'd go, man, if they didn't have Deshaun Watson, 389 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: this game would be forty to seven. They would be 390 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: getting killed. And here they were in the fourth quarter 391 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: with a chance to win. Or you know, somebody snaps 392 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: the ball low when he's on the one yard line. 393 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: You know, he can't do everything. So that's that's part 394 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: of the exercise. It is tough, but yeah, I look 395 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: at Watson is certainly being one of the four best 396 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league right now. I think you jumped 397 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: on my Matthew Stafford bandwagon MVP choice. Well, I think 398 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 1: you did. I'm excited for Stafford because Stafford has been 399 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: in like my top ten almost every year. I do 400 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: this and people always just can't get over it. And 401 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: it's you know, again, it's just mend bad offense, no 402 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: great offensive coordinators his whole career. I know he had Megatron. 403 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: It was him and Megatron. Apparently those two were supposed 404 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: to win every game by themselves. I get that, you know, 405 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: no thousand yard rushers. The talent is real. It's one 406 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: of the greatest arms ever. It's still one of the 407 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: most game changing arms we've ever seen, and still at 408 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: this point it is. And I think this year now 409 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: with the support mcveigh's offense and receivers, a run game. 410 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 1: I hear you, like, that's to me the smart bet 411 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: if you want to bet low and get a huge 412 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: grand prize for MVP Matt Stafford Bee of those, I 413 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: would recommend anybody You've got Ben Roethlisberger down the list. 414 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Here should the Steelers have made Should they have drafted 415 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback first round instead of a running back? Yeah, 416 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: it's it's tough, you know where they were sitting there. 417 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: Of course that they would have had to have made 418 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: some sort of move to get a quarterback. I think 419 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: that's why they did sign Dwayne Haskins in the offseason 420 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: to take it. You know, let's take a deeper look 421 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: at him. Maybe he could be the guy in the future. 422 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: But I think ultimately Dan with like Pittsburgh, they looked 423 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: at it like, wait, we're closer to the top than 424 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: the bottom. This is not a rebuild. Our team is 425 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: kind of ready. And I would imagine and it sounds 426 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: like if you listen to anything they're saying, they gotta 427 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: be looking at Tampa. Look at Tampa. You know, would 428 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: Brady you know, yeah, you got some good receivers. You 429 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: can't ask Ben to throw the ball, you know, every 430 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: play forty five times a game and then not be 431 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: able to run or scare anybody else with that. So 432 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: they got I got to go to that formula. In 433 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: my opinion, run the ball, play action, protect him up 434 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: so he doesn't have to worry, and he'll still dice 435 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: you up with his right arm, but he's not gonna 436 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: make plays or carry the team anymore if they're going 437 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: to ask him to be in the shotgun and do 438 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: it that way all game long. That's good to talk 439 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: to you again always, and I hope you get a 440 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: whole lot of grief coming up next week. Oh don't worry. 441 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: I think it's you know, it's peaked. I honestly, there's 442 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: the crazy thing. When I made Brady ten, I was like, man, 443 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: people will probably be happy about this. This is good. 444 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: It's get some people off my back. Either think it's 445 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: the worst reaction I've gotten in the years out of anybody. 446 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: I am getting absolutely killed. What's the worst reaction you 447 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: had gotten prior to putting Tom Brady tenth on your list? Well, 448 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's probably another Tom Brady, you know, ranking 449 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: of like putting him at nine a few years ago 450 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: or something like that. It's usually that between the New 451 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: England Fairs. Still upset because you were there as a 452 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: teammate of Tom Brady's jealous of Tom. That's what everybody says. 453 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: I know, I was jealous, he was mean to me, 454 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: all those type of things, and nobody can believe that 455 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: I actually really like the guy. I have tremendous respect. 456 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: But yes, that's the way I see it at age 457 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: forty three, where he is right now. He's still awesome. 458 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: Obviously can win a Super Bowl, but I don't think 459 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: he's as good or better than some of those guys 460 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: I got in front of him. No, I don't thank you, Chris, 461 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: thank you Dan, be good guys, say that's Chris Sims. 462 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk Live. Fox Sports Radio has the best 463 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 464 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: shows at Foxsports Radio Dot com and within the iHeartRadio 465 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: app search f SR to listen live. Hey, this is 466 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, 467 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 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He's the Nets studio host on Yes. 475 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: He's also Sirius xm NBA Radio the starting lineup he 476 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: contributes to around the Hord and pardon the interruption, let 477 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: me start with the poll question. The team that's gonna 478 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: kick themselves the most after last night, the Jazz or 479 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: the Sixers. It's going to be the Sixers. They were 480 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: up twenty six. The Jazz would be second, and I 481 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: would put Milwaukee third on that list. Though even though 482 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: Milwaukee played you know, a Nets team that harden was 483 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: clearly not himself. It's still Kevin Durant. So you're losing 484 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: to a guy having a tremendous performance and we all 485 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: know that he's capable of it. I mean, come on, 486 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: if you're in Utah, you're showing up for work in 487 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: your own building and Kawhi Leonard is not going to play. 488 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: And then if you're Philadelphia up twenty six, how about 489 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: the way they played down the stretch of that game. 490 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the numbers are off the charts. Think 491 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: about it, Dan, the fourth quarter of the last two 492 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: games and beat is one for ten and Tobias Harris 493 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: is over five and Ben Simmons has not attempted a 494 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: shot in the fourth quarter of games four and five. 495 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: That's remarkable. Do you have to take him off the 496 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: floor now, Layton games? I think you do. I think 497 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: once the Hawks get to that fourth foul, I think 498 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: you got to take him out. If I were Atlanta, 499 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm not going to intentionally foul to get to my 500 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: fifth foul. But once I get four, I don't care 501 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: which quarter it's in, I'm going to foul him because 502 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: you could tell it's clearly in his head and it's 503 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: affecting the sixers and the fact that they're going to 504 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: be on the road. Ben Simmons, I give him credit 505 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: for this. At least he faced the music. Last night. 506 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: He was in front of the media, and to the 507 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: media's credit, they asked him a lot of questions about 508 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: his shooting and specifically his free throw is shooting. And 509 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: he stood there and he answered all the questions and 510 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: Bet did not meet with the media. But Simmons has 511 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: to do something. This is now becoming. It's one thing 512 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: for it to happen during the regular season, occasionally in 513 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Somebody had a great stat dan that he's 514 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: already missed more free through in ten playoff games. I 515 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: think it's forty five. Then Steve Nash missed in his 516 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: entire career in the playoffs, he missed forty four. This 517 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: guy's already missed forty five in the playoffs. It's hard 518 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: to believe. And I know Doc Rivers is trying to 519 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: say the right thing about Ben Simmons, and he's a 520 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: unique player and he's a great player, but I can't 521 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: You're not a superstar in a liability. You can't be 522 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: both walking on the floor in the same game. Yeah, 523 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: I also think You know, Shack struggled with free throws, 524 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: but you never had the feeling that Shack was nervous 525 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: about going to the free throw line. And I think 526 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: the same thing is true if Jannis and Tetakopo, who's 527 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: not a good free throw shooter. Jannis isn't worried in 528 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: those moments. But when you're not taking a single shot 529 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of the last two games, when 530 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: your team blew an eighteen point lead and a twenty 531 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: five point lead or a twenty six point lead, what 532 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: does that tell you To me? It's like he's I 533 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: don't want to use the word afraid, but it seems 534 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: like he's afraid to step up to the free throw 535 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: line and take those shots. That has got to be 536 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: a major concern. But you're right about Doc. Doc's doing 537 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: the right thing. He's going to stand by his player. 538 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: But this is up to Ben Simmons. He has to 539 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: figure this out somehow, all right, So do you have 540 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: the Clippers figured out now? Because I don't, you know, 541 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: in the Dallas series, I didn't even in the bubble 542 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: last year, I still didn't have him figured out. Now 543 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: you don't have Kawai Woad says Kawai's probably doubtful for 544 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: games six and seven if there is a seven. But 545 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: so now it's it's Paul George again, and then you 546 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: know that supporting cast. Yeah, you know, I've been hearing 547 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: it's a significant They worry that it's a significant a 548 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: c L injury. So who knows when we'll see Kawhi Leonard. 549 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: I get Paul George a lot of credit. You know, 550 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: he gets mocked a lot, and he did not play 551 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: well in the bubble. I don't like the way the 552 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: things that he said about Doc Rivers, especially after Doc 553 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: Rivers had gotten fired. But he's had a couple of 554 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: big time performances to go on the road. This was 555 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: all about the Utah Jazz. They have to win that game. 556 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: I have not had the Clippers figured out. I will 557 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: say this, When Marcus Morris plays well, they seem to 558 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: play well. He's a tough guy, he knocks big time shots. 559 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: Utah completely fell apart last night. They're shooting in the 560 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: second half. I think there were three for twenty four 561 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: on threes. I don't enjoy at times watching them play. 562 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: When they're moving the ball around, they look good, but 563 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: there are times when they're just settling for long, deep 564 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: three pointers, and it backfired on them big time in 565 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: the second half. Frank Gisla and he covers the nets, 566 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: their studio host on Yes and a contributor to Around 567 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: the Horn, pardon the interruption, let's focus in on your nets. 568 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: What do you expect tonight. I'll be interested to see 569 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: how many minutes Kevin Durant plays in the first half. 570 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: You know, he went forty eight obviously in the last game. 571 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: I think he's going to come out at some point 572 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: in the first half of this game. If it's a 573 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: ten point game in the fourth quarter. To Steve Nash, 574 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: decide to maybe pull the plug at some point and say, 575 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: you know what, let's just rest up for Game seven. 576 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: I do think that hard and we'll knock down a 577 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: couple of shots. He just I give him credit for 578 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: being out there for forty six minutes. He just didn't 579 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: have it. He was never cutting to the basket. Eight 580 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: of his ten shots with threes, which told you he 581 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: was just settling. I don't think you're gonna get forty 582 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: nine point points from Kevin Durant. I think you will 583 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: get a big time response from the Milwaukee Bucks. I 584 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: expect them to win this game. I think we're going 585 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: to get a Game seven, which would be a great moment. 586 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: I just think Durant playing forty eight and James Harden 587 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: playing forty six. I think that's going to catch up 588 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: to the Nets. Tonight. I scratched my I was yelling 589 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: at the TV the last game because of what the 590 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: Bucks did and did not do. I know, I gave 591 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: Harden out there. You don't take advantage of him, make 592 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: him run making guards somebody, the Greek freak had chances. 593 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: He had James Harden guarding him, I know. And he 594 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: doesn't take it to the hoop. He doesn't want to 595 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: get fould, he doesn't want to go to the free 596 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: throw line. I mean that is that's a that's a 597 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: flawed logic here. You know, during crunch time with one 598 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: of the great players, a two time MVP, crazy and 599 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: I and I thought the Nets did a great job 600 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: of attacking Brook Lopez. It kept getting him in picking 601 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: rolls and he could not guard. Whether it was Jeff Green, 602 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: whether it was Blake Griffin, or if Kevin Durant turned 603 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: the corner. Kevin Durant kept beating him to the rim. 604 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: So the Nets were attacking brook Lopez and meanwhile the 605 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: Bucks were not attacking James hard And You're so right. 606 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: Late in that game, when the game Duranta finally missed 607 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: a shot, it was just under two minutes to go, 608 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: and Jannis had the ball and he's shooting a fadeaway 609 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: jumper along the baseline. It's like, come on, I love 610 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: the guy. He's a terrific guy. He's a self made player. 611 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: But some of the decisions that he makes late in 612 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: games it just drive you nuts. And I also thought 613 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: a little thing too late in the game when they 614 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: were down too. I'm talking about Milwaukee with under twenty 615 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: five seconds to go, I'm going I'm going for the 616 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: three there because I'm thinking if we tie the game, 617 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: duranall probably hit a shot at the end of regulation anyway, 618 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: and if we have to go five more minutes, Kevin 619 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: Duran's gonna end up with sixty points. Forget about forty 620 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: nine points. I would have gone for the three. I 621 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: get it. Chris Middleton made a good play driving into 622 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: the lane and then Jannis fumbled the ball. But you 623 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: know what, go for the win at that point, because 624 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 1: at that point you would have been lucky to get 625 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: out of there with the victors. And I'm still and 626 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned this yesterday. I've been watching the NBA for 627 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: over fifty years. I don't understand how the best player 628 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: on the floor doesn't face a double team to get 629 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands. Not once did Milwaukee 630 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: truly double team Durant to say, you're not beating us. 631 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: If Greene beats us or somebody else beats us, then 632 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: that's fine, You're not beating us. I go back to 633 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: when Jordan hit the shot against the Utah Jazz. I 634 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: was watching it the other day. I'm yelling, and I 635 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: know what the end result is. They didn't run anybody 636 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: at Michael Jordan. I don't understand this logic. Frank, I know. 637 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: And if you go back to I think we were 638 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: probably at the game when Indiana played the Lakers. It 639 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: was either a game three or four in Indiana, and 640 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: when Shack fouled out, Kobe took over and they had Mark, 641 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, Larry Bird had Mark Jackson guarding Kobe, and 642 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: they never ran a double team at him to get 643 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands. It was so frustrating 644 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: to watch from a Milwaukee buck standpoint and also put 645 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: Janis on him at some point. You watch the NFL, 646 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: they put the best cornerback on the best wide receiver 647 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: for crying out to try to stop him in the 648 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: fourth I get it. You don't want to get Jannis 649 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: and foul trouble early in the game. I think in 650 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Either entered the fourth with two or 651 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: three fouls, so he's not going to foul out at 652 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: that point. You gotta put him on Kevin Durant, get 653 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: the ball out of Durant stands and make guys like 654 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: Joe Harris who couldn't make a shot, make him beat you. 655 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: I get it. Jeff Green had probably the game of 656 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: his life. But you know, it's a little bit different 657 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: when you're taking those shots in a one two point 658 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: game as opposed to when your team is down fifteen 659 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: and you're wide open and shoot him. I just mentioned 660 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: Lebron James had comments saying, hey, I told everybody that 661 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: we were going to have all these injuries here do 662 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: we have all these injuries or just injuries to marquee players. 663 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: And Anthony Davis is not in shape, That's why he 664 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: got hurt. Kawhi has been bothered by that knee for 665 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: a long, long time. James Harden wasn't in shape this year. 666 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: So when you had a sprained ankle by Lebron doesn't 667 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: have anything to do with your conditioning. Kyrie had a 668 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: sprained ankle, nothing to do with your conditioning. So you know, 669 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: Lebron it kind of want it both ways. Hey, can 670 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: you limit the regular season here? But they're not offering 671 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: to give up twenty five percent of their pay. So 672 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: while I understand it was a quick turnaround, you add 673 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: guys who weren't in shape to start this season, and 674 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: these players aren't going to give any money back. Yeah, 675 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: and I think Kawai was at fifty two fifty three 676 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: games this season, so that was not aware and tear situation. 677 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: Same thing with Kyrie Irving he was in the low 678 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: fifties for games played, So the same thing with Mbat 679 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: and be put fifty one games this season, then has 680 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: the tournamentiscus, so it's not like only Yokis played seventy 681 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: two games. Everyone else you know was in the fifties 682 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: or the sixties. And if you're a Lebron you're a 683 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: big part of the union. You guys agreed to do it. 684 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: To your point, they want it both ways. So you 685 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: wanted to make all the money you could. And now, 686 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: after all these guys are getting hurt and there've been 687 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: a ton of guys that have missed playoff games, you're saying, well, 688 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: maybe we should have cut it. Back to me, that's 689 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: up to the NBA and the Union. I think they 690 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: blew it. I think they should have played a sixty 691 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: game season. I think right now we should be in 692 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: the NBA finals. I think the season. I mean, Dan, 693 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: we're not out of the second round. I think about 694 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: where we are on the cale. Then when I look 695 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: up and I'm thinking, oh, man, I'm gonna be working 696 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: on July fourth weekend, which I'm used to doing covering 697 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: free agency, not like being at games. That's gonna be 698 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: a little nutty. Yeah, it's yeah. I mean even throwing Embiid, 699 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: he's never really been in shape. I mean, I give 700 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: him credit. He's playing. Uh yeah, well, you know the 701 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: meniscus tear. But but a lot of these guys, uh, 702 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, Donovan Mitchell, that sprained ankle is still there. 703 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: Like that's not conditioning. I think sprained ankle is just Yeah. 704 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: So that's that's why when I hear this with Lebron. 705 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: Do I want the NBA decided because of injuries? You 706 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: know who's the healthy is No, But you know when 707 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: Kad went down or Magic got hurt in the finals 708 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: against the Pistons, I mean, it happens. It's unfortunate Clay 709 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: Thompson goes down. You don't like it, but that's part 710 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: of the game. And I think too, you know, I 711 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: think back in the day, the old school guys, if 712 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: they had it's one thing, like Magic had the hamstring injury, 713 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: couldn't play, and Hard And obviously had to miss some 714 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: games because of the hamstring jury. And Kyrie Irving obviously 715 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: can't play now. But I do think there used to 716 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: be if guys had were banged up a little bit, 717 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: they just played and they didn't want you to know 718 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: about it. Now, guys they play hurt and if they 719 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: have a bad game, they make sure that their postgame 720 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: press conference ask you about I always say this about 721 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing. Patrick had bad knees. Obviously, if you asked 722 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing about his injury or his knees, he would 723 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: give you the death stare. Yeah, like no, no, no no, no, 724 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: don't go down that road talking about my body. How 725 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm banged up and I'm hurt. I think guys now 726 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: can't wait to tell you, well, the reason I didn't 727 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: play well is because I'm dealing with this situation. I 728 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: think I think there's a little of that at play 729 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: as well. But you also with gambling, don't we have 730 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: to know this now? Now it's full disclosure that I 731 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: need to know what's going on with you know, the 732 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: fact that Tom Brady had knee surgery in the off 733 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: season and was not on the injury report due to 734 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: his knee during during the regular season, Like, that's not 735 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: supposed to happen in this world of gambling. But I 736 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,479 Speaker 1: think a lot of it, too, is gamesmanship. They don't 737 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: want you to know that. So the Nets, I thought 738 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: it was gamesmanship with them. When they announced that James 739 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: Harden had been upgraded from out to questionable, I thought 740 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: that was something they would just wanted to mess with 741 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks. But if you look at Harden's grid, 742 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about guys that don't play. You look at 743 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: his career numbers of games played. If he's healthy, he's 744 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: out there. But you're one hundred percent right, And I 745 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: love hard and I love the way he plays. He 746 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: showed up out of shape in Houston, so forget about 747 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: the you know, forcing his way out. He was never 748 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: in shape and you have to think that probably impacted 749 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 1: his hamstring somehow. But if he can, he'll be out there, 750 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: and he showed that the other night with forty six minutes. 751 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: Have fun tonight, Frank, thanks for joining us. Thanks Dan, 752 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys, Frank and I solo. Be sure 753 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 1: to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show 754 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox 755 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio WAPP