Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna do things a little different tonight, man,
Speaker 1: because I get tired of being fucking professional. Man like that,
Speaker 1: I get tired of being fucking professional. I get tired
Speaker 1: of I've been doing the same thing. I thought about
Speaker 1: it today. We've been doing this show since twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: and it's twenty twenty four. Now that's a long time.
Speaker 2: I remember when you came up with it in the
Speaker 2: loft downtown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that, and it sort of got away
Speaker 1: from what my original mission was with it. The show
Speaker 1: was always supposed to be eggy, right. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you have personnel changes, you can't necessarily do this.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't necessarily keep the same thing going
Speaker 1: on when you change the team up a little bit.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I said, we always the goal
Speaker 2: to push to me is to get to get this
Speaker 2: show to change over the Gangster Rap Chronicles, Like Gangster
Speaker 2: Chronicles was always brilliant idea, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: With the original personnel, You know what I'm saying, it
Speaker 2: was always perfect, like it was cast it for the idea,
Speaker 2: and now the new cast it doesn't necessarily fit. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean, y'all not super vested in criminology
Speaker 2: and crimes. You know what I mean, y'all both probably did
Speaker 2: your fair shared crimes in you in your day. But really,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, y'all, more like you're an
Speaker 2: executive of gangster rap music, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: You manage a couple gangster rappers. Eight is a first
Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Fame, you know, gangster rappers. So I
Speaker 2: feel like that's why I was always pushing you to
Speaker 2: move the show into a gangster rap chronicle perspective and
Speaker 2: then really have a bunch of dope conversations. But again,
Speaker 2: the hard part about business is business, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, The consistency of a brand and you know,
Speaker 2: moving the space and changing the feed, and you know,
Speaker 2: how do the fans react? But like I genuinely think,
Speaker 2: you know, your audience would love it, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, because to hear you and Aid speak about
Speaker 2: gangster rap, you're gonna get like forty years of wisdom
Speaker 2: in a completely different space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, dog Bro, and I wish
Speaker 1: you know, shout out at the homie ate he may
Speaker 1: be popping in for a minute. My man, been real
Speaker 1: sick for the past few weeks. Will you know, you know,
Speaker 1: get will A but got the homy glass of maloney
Speaker 1: here with me one thing about it. Do see, whatever
Speaker 1: we're doing, we gotta be egy with it. Like when
Speaker 1: I created this show, it was to be exgy, and
Speaker 1: to be exy you have to have an opinion. Dog,
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of sitting in the middle of shit
Speaker 1: because people don't want to upset nobody. And I get it.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. Don't nobody want beef man,
Speaker 1: But I'm tired of it, man, So from here on out,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak with some on my mind though I'm
Speaker 1: tired of just I'm tired of playing the game. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, as long as you articulate your thoughts clearly. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, you.
Speaker 1: Know you don't really start to playing the game.
Speaker 2: You know how we do it on no ceilings. You
Speaker 2: feel me. I'm going to say what I think now.
Speaker 2: You know obviously I've been man. I've seen Lord Jamar
Speaker 2: today like commenting on one of my thoughts. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like on Drake not being hip hop,
Speaker 2: and Lord Jamar was like, oh, I get what he's saying.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and people like so many
Speaker 2: fans like feel like it has to be about like
Speaker 2: I have a disdain for the artists or I don't.
Speaker 2: Just like if I made Tupac must die, it must
Speaker 2: be I don't like Tupac. And that's it's just, you know,
Speaker 2: the first thing from the truth. You know me well
Speaker 2: more well than anybody. I've always been transparent with my thoughts.
Speaker 2: Now I definitely can't. Like I've dealt with Drake more
Speaker 2: than once. You know what I'm saying, But I don't
Speaker 2: have enough information to like or dislike him. And actually
Speaker 2: what I do know about him, you know I like him.
Speaker 2: Same for J Cole. You know I didn't bump to
Speaker 2: the J Cole chopped double him in passing like I
Speaker 2: like him. I don't dislike people. But if as men,
Speaker 2: we can't know. These podcasts are very much like barbershop conversations.
Speaker 2: And it don't matter how many thousands to tens of
Speaker 2: thousands of people that are listening. You just listening to
Speaker 2: us have a barbershop conversation, and I'm transparent. That's why
Speaker 2: you don't hear me, you know, even in private or public.
Speaker 2: I don't call you know, you know me, I don't
Speaker 2: call Dracer out of his name, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call j Cole out of his name, even
Speaker 2: if I'm describing an action you know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: that he's doing, so you know what I mean. I
Speaker 2: do think there's a space where people are just overtly
Speaker 2: sensitive to where it's like they go right to, oh,
Speaker 2: I hate this person, you know, I mean, he gotta
Speaker 2: hate this person or let me attack him because I
Speaker 2: like this person. I'm defending him. And it's weird to me, bro,
Speaker 2: because even though my social media is like the people
Speaker 2: that they feel like they're defending who I'm not even attacking.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: It's like they wouldn't even tweet you or talk to
Speaker 2: you if they saw you, Like, you know, I'm the
Speaker 2: type of person. You see how fans been since you
Speaker 2: know me, since I first started, you know, ascertaining some
Speaker 2: level of fame. I always been pretty personable with people,
Speaker 2: Like to me, I'm like a person of the people,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So to watch people treat
Speaker 2: me like I'm some kind of outcast, that I would
Speaker 2: be the person that's not relatable and some dude who
Speaker 2: really you know, to the most suburban kid, I'm still
Speaker 2: more relatable than Drake or j Cole. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, I'm pretty much straight up and down.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Again, everybody take the crypt
Speaker 2: part and mean that means that, you know, I would
Speaker 2: hurt somebody innocent or snatch some old lady person so
Speaker 2: they you know, your brand gets outcasting into a space
Speaker 2: of fear, or I need to present myself overtly tough
Speaker 2: versus just treating somebody like a regular person.
Speaker 1: What the thing is, man, I just think we too
Speaker 1: sensitive today as a society, as just men in general.
Speaker 1: I notice sometimes and I can't And I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: go in and speaking for nobody else on this show
Speaker 1: because I can't. My man, they ain't here tonight. But
Speaker 1: I think we too sensitive sometimes a lot of times
Speaker 1: I want to have conversations, but then the thing comes
Speaker 1: up where we may get so and so upset. Why
Speaker 1: why are we worried about that? Hold on, cheap me,
Speaker 1: let me land on this. If we are gonna be
Speaker 1: the people that speak on the culture dog, we can't
Speaker 1: be worried about people getting mad. We can't worry about
Speaker 1: people getting upset. Now, I'm gonna tell you this, I
Speaker 1: would never come on. I'm never go do the ambush journalism.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna do the stuff the world we just
Speaker 1: dissing people just to dis people. You feel what I mean?
Speaker 1: That ain't cool right there? But I think if I
Speaker 1: have an opinion about somebody's music, like I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you that new Bus the Bus and I'm a Bust
Speaker 1: the Bus fan. I'm a Bust of Rhymes fan. Man,
Speaker 1: I can't stand a new record though I haven't heard it,
Speaker 1: you know, do the Bus and Bus Part two? The
Speaker 1: origonal was cool when it first came out. That should
Speaker 1: have been left where it was at before. But now
Speaker 1: that's no disrespect to Bust to Rhymes. I've supported everyone
Speaker 1: last one of Busts of Rhymes albums. I'm just don't
Speaker 1: like his new music, and I think I should have
Speaker 1: a right to say that without offending nobody. I don't
Speaker 1: think Buster would be mad if I said that, because
Speaker 1: I love Bust to Rhymes. I think Bust the Rhymes
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest of all time to ever
Speaker 1: do it. Extinction level Event two left it thought it
Speaker 1: was a brilliant album, thought it fit where he was at.
Speaker 1: But to see Buss and Bus trying to attempt to
Speaker 1: make dance music all over again, it's just like, bro,
Speaker 1: do your stuff, Bust and Bust mean, but he's like
Speaker 1: dance music his whole career. Yeah, he has dog, but
Speaker 1: it seemed like with this one man, he kind of
Speaker 1: trying to chase something.
Speaker 2: Maybe I haven't heard.
Speaker 1: I could be and I could be wrong, But then again,
Speaker 1: that's just my opinion, and that's no disrespect to the guy.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, that's no disrespect the Bust
Speaker 1: of Rhymes.
Speaker 2: I truly love the ll Kool j Q Tip album
Speaker 2: The Force.
Speaker 1: I loved the two and I think the Bus and
Speaker 1: Bus like when Bus and Bus did Extinction level event.
Speaker 3: I loved that.
Speaker 1: See that's one of my favorite Bus to Rahyms albums
Speaker 1: because he was doing well. It's true to him. And
Speaker 1: I know Buss and Busses back on a major label now,
Speaker 1: and I think Bus and Bus it may be a
Speaker 1: thing where Bus and Busses used to have hit records.
Speaker 2: Though, sure, and if you see it to a record company,
Speaker 2: it would it would probably make sense for you to
Speaker 2: try to make a hit record or make a good record.
Speaker 2: So I mean, but Busts always took artistic gambles, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I'm sure sometimes he can
Speaker 2: miss why left or my you know, wide right, But
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, I think I think there is
Speaker 2: a space for a level of critigue even for the
Speaker 2: gods of of of of you know, New York street
Speaker 2: urban culture, you know, from an art level to be critigue,
Speaker 2: same for anyone else like J Cole. Like even when
Speaker 2: we talked about the J Cole record the poort, Antonio
Speaker 2: was like, this is not about me critiguing his art
Speaker 2: or his ability. This is me critiguing the approach what's
Speaker 2: being said, you know what I mean. So you just
Speaker 2: have to be okay, just like when people don't like
Speaker 2: my music, you know what I'm saying, Like I'll put
Speaker 2: out music and people won't like it, and that's just
Speaker 2: the end of it. I'm not gonna fight him because
Speaker 2: they don't like my music. But I mean people can
Speaker 2: be a bit sensitive. Do I think bus is sensitive?
Speaker 2: Knowing him and fellowshipping with him, Nah, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: he'll take that and hear what you're saying. And you know,
Speaker 2: come back stronger and that would you.
Speaker 1: Know what, Man, I really hope that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: That don't mean I'm not gonna support Bus and Bus.
Speaker 1: That don't mean I'm not gonna keep lofting him for
Speaker 1: what he does. This one misstep. This is probably the
Speaker 1: first song Buss and Rhymes I've ever had in his
Speaker 1: whole long story career that I didn't like. And I
Speaker 1: try like she won't like. I listened to that record
Speaker 1: about ten fifteen times. All righty, you know what? But
Speaker 1: but I will say this while I'm talking, not to
Speaker 1: get too much into a negative space. Man, That new
Speaker 1: app Soul is off the hook? Yeah yeah, yeah, app.
Speaker 1: So I think I've seen it on this show a
Speaker 1: number of times. Probably my favorite rap road for ad TD.
Speaker 1: You know, I've had a conversations with you. Soul is like,
Speaker 1: Soul is a real rapper, and that it's not taking
Speaker 1: nothing from nobody else, all them brothers over that dope,
Speaker 1: but Soul. I've always thought that Soul was just on
Speaker 1: another level lyrically. You know, Soul will take you someplace.
Speaker 2: You know, No, Soul is amazing, no questions?
Speaker 1: Apps was that guy man I got?
Speaker 2: I got Trevvy to a record behind the scenes where
Speaker 2: they shot a video and it's amazing. I expect nothing
Speaker 2: less from Sould, you know what I mean. What I
Speaker 2: really more expect any more than anything from Soul is
Speaker 2: him to do delivers some records, like and I tell
Speaker 2: him all the time, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: I tell over all the time, like it's time to,
Speaker 2: you know, make some records. Like Casola is an underrated
Speaker 2: record maker. If you heard Fuck Glasses alone, the album
Speaker 2: that's on Spotify. Now, there's a song with me and
Speaker 2: Jay Rock called Dollars makes sense. That's Apps so doing
Speaker 2: the course, Like as knows how to make a record.
Speaker 2: He just you know, got hell bent on showing everybody
Speaker 2: they're not a better MC. But most people don't give
Speaker 2: credence of this. But im singing at a mass level,
Speaker 2: even lyricism at a mass level is still judged based
Speaker 2: off of how popular your records are, like jay Z
Speaker 2: can only be in the running, or Tupac can only
Speaker 2: be in the running, or Biggie or Nahs because of
Speaker 2: their biggest songs. That puts you on a radar of
Speaker 2: all the audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know somebody will even take this conversation
Speaker 1: and take that as a slight to everybody else from
Speaker 1: TDE because I said that appsold is my favorite rapper.
Speaker 1: I love Jay Rock's music. It things. Jay Rock got
Speaker 1: slaps out, you know, Ny.
Speaker 2: You know sensitive and always try to clear it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but listen to me though, Dog and Punch
Speaker 1: is probably my second favorite rapper over there. Sure Punch
Speaker 1: is hard. Sure, and this ain't me clean it up.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, I'm so sick of the space
Speaker 1: we in right now. Dog is extra.
Speaker 2: Just stop honoring it.
Speaker 1: It's extra. What's the nice word? Like I said about
Speaker 1: the climate today is just zesty as hell? Dog? Well,
Speaker 1: you don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, you only empowered it when you be a
Speaker 2: part of it. That's why I don't really hold my
Speaker 2: opinion back. I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Hold my opinion up. I'm gonna tell you this, and
Speaker 1: I want to apologize for the fans, and I don't
Speaker 1: want nobody to take this no kind of a way.
Speaker 1: Our last week's episode was whack. It was trash. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I told you that. Afterout, after we got finished recording,
Speaker 1: I said, Dog, I did not like this episode. Dog,
Speaker 1: we can't just come in and just breathe through the
Speaker 1: show without saying what we mean.
Speaker 2: Bro, Well, you gotta listen to people, right, and then
Speaker 2: you gotta respond appropriately when they speaking to you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I think that's the beginning. I think that's the start.
Speaker 1: Like I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't want it to be tabloid journalism, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, or tabloid podcasting versus two really knowledgeable people,
Speaker 2: one like I said, the first ballot Hall of Famer
Speaker 2: and another you know, executive of of the of the genre,
Speaker 2: you know, being honest about their opinion. Especially somebody like
Speaker 2: A eight has all the credentials in the world to
Speaker 2: judge music. I mean, he is a true professional or
Speaker 2: a true legend, a true scholar at the highest level,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So there's nothing that I
Speaker 2: don't know why he wouldn't be Like he can offer
Speaker 2: critique that can help shape an artists into becoming a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player.
Speaker 1: But what he can't worry about, though, Bro, he can't
Speaker 1: worry about people getting upset.
Speaker 2: Bro, I don't know why to hell, A will worry
Speaker 2: about people getting upset. He don't function with everybody, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It ain't like he in the
Speaker 2: mix with everybody, So you know, if he thinks, I
Speaker 2: think it's right for Ad to be able to say
Speaker 2: say to somebody, hey, you know what you need to
Speaker 2: work on that. Look, it's it's one thing, big Bro,
Speaker 2: for people to just oh you whacking, you suck and
Speaker 2: you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we ain't gonna never disrespect nobody. That's not what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. See, I'm like, whatever do with the
Speaker 1: other cats, do this down the road or whatever? Like
Speaker 1: we not like us, That's what I'm saying. We never
Speaker 1: go do the tabloid stuff. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're not a gossip Kyle, and that's not what we
Speaker 1: go do.
Speaker 2: But as even as gangster rap, you know, as gangster rap.
Speaker 2: You know, you two guys iss gangster rap like professionals
Speaker 2: you know of over thirty years. You it's it's incumbent.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean that you be transparent with
Speaker 2: with your critique for moves made by artists and music
Speaker 2: that they.
Speaker 1: Released hundred percent. You know, but I wish we could
Speaker 1: play music on here man. That new appisode is hard
Speaker 1: Dog Squeeze first too. You know what I was together,
Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking about too, Bro, I
Speaker 1: was thinking about all this stuff that's going down with
Speaker 1: with p Diddy right now, right sure with Ditty, and
Speaker 1: I don't and I ain't even go getting all. I
Speaker 1: was just thinking about it. You got one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty people following the lawsuit, Bro, and you have been
Speaker 1: with a one eight hundred number now where people can
Speaker 1: call in. How many of these lawsuits you think is frivolous?
Speaker 2: How did you police that, bron? Listen, everybody who functioned
Speaker 2: with Puff passed nineteen ninety four knew who Puff was,
Speaker 2: So again, like, you can't convince me that people were this.
Speaker 2: Like I saw an interview with a local West Coast
Speaker 2: act as a female singer. Her name is Tania. She
Speaker 2: was doing a sit down where she was talking about
Speaker 2: she been to a Puff party and she didn't do nothing.
Speaker 2: But to some degree I think she was like a
Speaker 2: stripper or maybe like I don't know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to call nobody no sex worker, because even though that
Speaker 2: phrase is really nice, I mean like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to call somebody that they not.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying that she didn't do nothing, Like if
Speaker 2: nobody went to a puff party, not understanding. The goal
Speaker 2: is to get high, laid, or drunk, I mean, or
Speaker 2: all the above, with the goal of achieving something else
Speaker 2: that they desire. Maybe is success in the music business,
Speaker 2: maybe it's money. Everybody know what they was going for.
Speaker 1: You remember when we did the episode we had the
Speaker 1: giants up there and we was just up there all
Speaker 1: kicking it. And I told you all, I went to
Speaker 1: a party where they had the pink stuff on the
Speaker 1: like the pink powder on the trades and stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a tough party. Dog, It just wasn't And
Speaker 1: I didn't, to be honest with you, Dog, I thought
Speaker 1: it was crazy. And I told I talked about this
Speaker 1: party a couple of times right on the show, numerous times. Right,
Speaker 1: I think it was what it was. It wasn't no
Speaker 1: different than the thirty or forty other Hollywood parties I
Speaker 1: went to. That's what people go there for it or
Speaker 1: they go to get faded, they go to get us
Speaker 1: some brawls, they go to listen to music, they go
Speaker 1: to really be hedonistic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what they do.
Speaker 2: And yeah, heatonistic is very much, you know, a much
Speaker 2: more harsher term of being free, you know, to do
Speaker 2: anything without judgment, you know, outside of the man above
Speaker 2: you I mean, but outside of the entity above. But yes,
Speaker 2: it's standard. It's people that I can name who have
Speaker 2: puff parties. But I could never say it because the
Speaker 2: public is so extra sensitive because that they acted like
Speaker 2: they want to be judgmental, like their whole goal in
Speaker 2: life wasn't to go to a puff party.
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't said that I was at a at
Speaker 1: the puff party, but it didn't matter whose party it was,
Speaker 1: because yeah, it was like it was going down dog,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't no different. It wasn't nothing I hadn't
Speaker 1: seen before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it. It was crazy. I never seen
Speaker 2: it at the Puff party, but I've seen it at
Speaker 2: other celebrity parties. But again, like that ain't like I've
Speaker 2: seen that in the hood, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I've seen all of this stuff and how people getting
Speaker 2: down and enjoying theirself and if it ain't for me,
Speaker 2: I just don't get down, That's all.
Speaker 1: I think. It was the thing, the thing that tripped
Speaker 1: me out most about that night. I kept talking about
Speaker 1: it's the pink. I didn't know if it was cocaine.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was I just know they
Speaker 1: had this pink on the trade, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was the craziest thing ever. Right, I was like, what
Speaker 1: is that? You feel me? Yeah, I'm not trying it,
Speaker 1: whatever it is is, I'm not sniffing or snort nothing.
Speaker 1: That's not my thing.
Speaker 2: I think you ever tried cocaine, you know what?
Speaker 1: I tried cocaine once by accident, dog, and it.
Speaker 2: Was you can't try cocaine. Try no, no, not like
Speaker 2: a primo, I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Yeah. I never sniffed cocaine before. Never Never
Speaker 1: How close did you get to it? Never had to,
Speaker 1: never had the desire to do so. Bro, I saw
Speaker 1: that stuff tear too many lives up. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: was always terrified of cocaine.
Speaker 2: Bro, who is the cold Who is the craziest person
Speaker 2: that you were surprised at all? Well, it's kind of illegal,
Speaker 2: so that might be kind of telling it, ain't it is?
Speaker 1: That would be you know what, Dog, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of people to snort though.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think it's more open now. I think these
Speaker 1: kids today is more open about what they do. You know,
Speaker 1: back then, I think people was more ashamedful doing cocaine.
Speaker 1: I know, three six moth people was always open about
Speaker 1: you know when they was the first rap group open
Speaker 1: with talking about their cocaine usage. You know, I was
Speaker 1: always terrified of cocaine. I'll tell you about my about
Speaker 1: my story. I got a cousin back home in Ohio, right.
Speaker 2: Much love to Ohio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this dude has always been fast, right, And when
Speaker 1: I say fast, he was just that's a whole different
Speaker 1: level just doing level reference for a man. Yeah, not fast,
Speaker 1: like when I say that brought me and this dude
Speaker 1: was just like when we was fifteen. This dude was
Speaker 1: drinking Hennessy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's crazy afteen, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like you talked about back in eighty five, him drink
Speaker 2: he had a short dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was drinking Hennessy dog he had, you know,
Speaker 1: he was drinking him, That's what he was doing. But
Speaker 1: he was drinking Hennessy. He was drinking gin. He was
Speaker 1: like always a step ahead. This dude had his own
Speaker 1: apartment though. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: This is a cousin of mine right at fifteen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, dog at fifteen, he's a year I was fifteen,
Speaker 1: he was sixteen. I would say he was sixteen, but wow,
Speaker 1: so we at his crib chilling one night. Man, I
Speaker 1: never will forget. We was listening to Chud Rocks new album.
Speaker 2: You told me about this story.
Speaker 1: Listening to Chure Rocks the album. So they passed and
Speaker 1: weed around and I was.
Speaker 2: And you thinking you've grown and cool.
Speaker 1: Exactly, I'm just trying to be cool beat around. And
Speaker 1: the thing is, I didn't even know how to hit weeds.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know how to hit the weed back.
Speaker 2: Once or twice.
Speaker 1: I hit the weed dog and I smoked, and it
Speaker 1: never did nothing to me because weed at that time,
Speaker 1: I don't think I was inhaling it right or something.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to smoke right. So I smoked
Speaker 1: the weed dog, and I'm headed back home. And it's
Speaker 1: about like a twenty minute drive where you've been in
Speaker 1: where my pops lived before. Right, I'm driving back to
Speaker 1: Cleveland at night. So I got like a thirty forty
Speaker 1: minute drive, right, I give them the freeway dog, and
Speaker 1: my whole face started feeling them, like to the point
Speaker 1: I thought something was wrong with me. Dog Like. First
Speaker 1: thing that happened is my heart started beating fast.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: When you pulled the jay you to hear the crackle.
Speaker 1: Bro, Well, I didn't know what going on. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I was cream. I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 2: Dog.
Speaker 1: You went on and all I know, g is I
Speaker 1: was up for two days. Dog. I could not go
Speaker 1: to sleep. You know what it felt like, bro, It
Speaker 1: felt like I drunk like five six cups of coffee.
Speaker 1: I couldn't go to sleep. But I was scared. Man,
Speaker 1: I was very, very scared, and I told my pops
Speaker 1: about it. I always was able to share stuff with
Speaker 1: my dad. Man I told him about He said, Son,
Speaker 1: you gotta be real careful about doing what you do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying about who you're doing certain
Speaker 1: things with. And that was my thing right there. From
Speaker 1: that time on, Dog, I never just hit nobody else's weed.
Speaker 1: That's that you feel me.
Speaker 2: They got you so so Hector. Hector got you like
Speaker 2: smoking Friday.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You was in a pigeon coop at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I was in the pigeon coop. I
Speaker 1: just couldn't go to sleep. And what was crazy about it,
Speaker 1: I was I was going to my mama's house. And
Speaker 1: my mama is very much one of the type of people,
Speaker 1: so I was nervous that my mom knew I was hired.
Speaker 1: Something was wrong with me. So I stayed outside, dog
Speaker 1: and I took a shower. Man. I tried to go
Speaker 1: to sleep and couldn't go to sleep. Dog, I couldn't
Speaker 1: go to sleep. That was the first time I tried.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 1: That was the first and only time I tried cocaine.
Speaker 1: I was always scared of it because I felt like
Speaker 1: if that did that too, that little bit of cocaine
Speaker 1: did that to me. There was in that weed. Dog.
Speaker 1: I was always like, what would powder do to it? Motherfucker?
Speaker 1: You feel me? I just never had no interest in
Speaker 1: doing that. Man, I never had no interest. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you the one thing I always was. I don't know, bro.
Speaker 1: I always liked psychedelics. Like I took acid before.
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's a rock a well. You you you
Speaker 2: got a little rock spirit, you know. I mean it's
Speaker 2: a little Jimmy Hendrix somewhere. And you you you really lean,
Speaker 2: you lean, You got a rock lane about yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I like shrooms, man, Shrooms is the ship
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: How do you take his acid?
Speaker 1: The one you put on your tongue, Yeah, you took
Speaker 1: put a tab on your tongue. But I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the first time I tried acid, though, you get
Speaker 1: a stamp, it's like a stamp that you're getting. They
Speaker 1: got like different colors on back in the Ohio, right,
Speaker 1: I hung around some white boys, right, Yeah, so he
Speaker 1: gave me like a whole stamp before and what I
Speaker 1: didn't know, I took like half the stamp. Right, So
Speaker 1: when I took half the stamp, it takes.
Speaker 2: You licked the stamp or you put the stamp and
Speaker 2: it dissolved in your mouth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you put the stamp like in your tongue, like
Speaker 1: you lick.
Speaker 2: The You just lick it and then you just get
Speaker 2: rid of it, like you hold it on.
Speaker 1: There for a minute, like then you know, when the
Speaker 1: term started feeling paper, you can take it out.
Speaker 2: Is PCP considered a psychedelic d.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't never mess with no PCP though, though.
Speaker 1: But so when I tried that, man, I took like
Speaker 1: a half a stamp, right. And I remember, man, I
Speaker 1: was hanging out with some white dudes and they were
Speaker 1: listening to Deep Purple, right this song Purple Strangers, right,
Speaker 1: yea perfect Stranger. They had this song rock song called
Speaker 1: perfect strangers. I just love rock and roll music, right,
Speaker 1: So we just kicking it, man, And they had all
Speaker 1: of these like led Zeppelin posters on their wall, and
Speaker 1: it started looking like the wall was like water for
Speaker 1: a minute. Man, it was like the whole wall was
Speaker 1: like wavy, right. And so I'm looking at the wall,
Speaker 1: tripping man. And I walk home, dog, and I'm just
Speaker 1: like really tripping, dog because it's like I felt like
Speaker 1: I was walking under water. I get back to my crib, man,
Speaker 1: I get back to my crib, and I'm watching TV.
Speaker 1: Gee when I tell you that, you know how TV
Speaker 1: goes off? Man? And like those what are they called
Speaker 1: those like commercials, infomercials, you know what I'm saying informercials.
Speaker 1: The lady on the infomercial was talking to.
Speaker 2: Me, bro Oh no no, So a PCP is in
Speaker 2: a hallucinogenic, so I think, and a hallucinogenic is different
Speaker 2: than a psychedelic. Go ahead, I'm listening.
Speaker 1: The lady on the The lady on the infomercial was
Speaker 1: talking to me, like really talking to me.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: Okay, remind me of Harold and Kumar go to White Cast.
Speaker 2: That's something that will happen right there. That's that drug
Speaker 2: that a Doogie Houser was taken and Harold and Kumar
Speaker 2: goes to Whitecastle. A psychedelic is a type of hallucinogen
Speaker 2: that produces a non ordinary mental state or trip that's
Speaker 2: often accompanied by a feeling of expanded consciousness. The term
Speaker 2: psychedelic is sometimes used more broadly to include other types
Speaker 2: of hallucinogens, such as salvia and MDMA. So I guess
Speaker 2: it is like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I ain't ever messed with a PCP.
Speaker 3: Tho, dog.
Speaker 2: Huh you got homies that Have you ever see somebody
Speaker 2: You ever see somebody hit a stick?
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, Yeah, it's a scary thing, man.
Speaker 2: Man, Jayo Felony, if I ever thought about trying PCP,
Speaker 2: Jo Felony would be the rapper that would if a
Speaker 2: rapper could ever influence me to do something, Jayo Felony.
Speaker 2: Jao Fellon used to have the best songs about smoking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sharm stick is a classic. You know what though, Man, Definitely,
Speaker 1: I think when you try certain drugs, man, you want
Speaker 1: to be around somebody because you can trip out, dog
Speaker 1: like like like even somebody smoke into something as simple
Speaker 1: as weed for the first time. Dog, you want to
Speaker 1: be around somebody that's cool. I never thought it was
Speaker 1: cool to like trick somebody. Some people like to get
Speaker 1: people so stone dog that they start tripping out. That
Speaker 1: ain't a cool feeling dog being so stone that you
Speaker 1: were n't comfortable. Bro, it's not cool. Bro. I remember
Speaker 1: one time, man, I ate some edibles. Right, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: was over. We was over some parents house, this one
Speaker 1: this one my son was playing football at bosco. Right,
Speaker 1: so we over this one couple sauce. Man, we kicking it, right,
Speaker 1: we barbecuing and stuff. So they got some candy in
Speaker 1: the thing, and you know I love sweets, right, so
Speaker 1: I'm eating these gummy worms, right. They tasted so good,
Speaker 1: and so I'm just like, I don't like, probably ate
Speaker 1: like twenty of these gummies right next thing, you know, man,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling so high. Like first the high hit me
Speaker 1: and I'm feeling cool, but then it just hit me
Speaker 1: to where the point it wasn't cool. It felt like
Speaker 1: everybody in the party was looking at me, man, like
Speaker 1: they was talking to me. And I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so high. I hope I don't say nothing stupid.
Speaker 2: I should auction off my alcohol virginity.
Speaker 1: Pause your Alco. You know what, Bro, I don't like
Speaker 1: to see you try to smoke weed one time. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Off my alcohol virginity.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: Like like once we make this new run on the
Speaker 2: album and were finnah get real hot, like we finna
Speaker 2: get really name buzzing, because like we already lighting the
Speaker 2: fire right now and everybody's starting to talk about us,
Speaker 2: and we dropped that street single. It's gonna really do
Speaker 2: a lot. We should make all of the spirit companies
Speaker 2: bid on what alcohol I drink first.
Speaker 1: That would be crazy man. You know what, though, Man, No,
Speaker 1: I would I think if you go try something first,
Speaker 1: maybe a drink is the best thing. I would probably
Speaker 1: say a shot of Hennessy or something like that.
Speaker 2: Whoever pay, you gotta pay.
Speaker 3: Whoever pay.
Speaker 1: I had to eat the homies up at Schefflin to
Speaker 1: see because Schaefflin might be the one to pay for that. Dog,
Speaker 1: I know, I would like to see you. That would
Speaker 1: be crazy, man. But you know what, at the same Tope,
Speaker 1: and I always thought it was dope that you never
Speaker 1: had a drink or never smoke nothing. Dog, that's not
Speaker 1: my wife. My wife has never drunk anything and smoked
Speaker 1: anything in her life.
Speaker 2: I never drank a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You might take something dollar like.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't probably want to see you smoking no weed, dog,
Speaker 1: because if we did it, it had to be some
Speaker 1: good old fashioned homegrowing something that I knew just wouldn't
Speaker 1: tear you up, you know, because I could see you
Speaker 1: really losing your mind. Dog, you could probably trip off.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody a weed company. Maybe Burner could bribe me.
Speaker 2: Maybe Burner could let's go acrost some real thousands for
Speaker 2: me to puff some cookies. But I d smoke ten
Speaker 2: thousand dollars from Burner. I don't know. That's that ain't enough.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: How about twenty five.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe twenty five, I might smoke a jay, you.
Speaker 1: Know what, And I would tell them, don't give you
Speaker 1: no end, to give you a nice sativa because I
Speaker 1: don't know you might trip off on sativa because sativa
Speaker 1: makes you think a lot.
Speaker 2: It might work for me. I used to watch all
Speaker 2: my old the Homies pluck. Favorite thing is to tell me, man,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you hit this weed. Your lyrics would be tighter.
Speaker 2: Your lyrics already tight, but they'd be way tighter. That's
Speaker 2: his favorite line, you.
Speaker 1: Know what the thing is? The thing is, bro, all
Speaker 1: of that stuff should be a choice. Man, I've never
Speaker 1: been really like, I was so mad at my cousin
Speaker 1: man for trying that because you think about it, even
Speaker 1: though it was a premium, I probably could have died. Bro.
Speaker 1: What if I'd had a heart attack or something. M h,
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying? Like, think about lim Bias.
Speaker 1: Remember when lim Bias got drafted. Though He's tried a
Speaker 1: drug for his first time and died. Bro, that has
Speaker 1: to be a choice, dog, Like, trying the drugs should
Speaker 1: be a choice, Bro. It shouldn't be nothing somebody fooling
Speaker 1: somebody into doing it, or somebody slipping something somebody's drink.
Speaker 1: That's real whack right there. I think people should go
Speaker 1: to jail for that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you are legally supposed to go
Speaker 2: to jail for that. But that is a bit devious.
Speaker 1: That is a devious because you don't know how somebody
Speaker 1: gon react like people think it's funny or let's put
Speaker 1: some because especially with THC now like you can really
Speaker 1: you can give somebody a soldier that's like a THAC
Speaker 1: dog and they could trip out. You feel what I
Speaker 1: mean they could really trip out a run in the
Speaker 1: middle of street, get hit by a car or something,
Speaker 1: you know, or getting their car and crash on the
Speaker 1: way home. That's not cool, man, Getting high, Getting high,
Speaker 1: getting on drugs could be a choice, especially like when
Speaker 1: you start. It took me a while she to really
Speaker 1: know how to take shrooms and stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: the thing is, I've never been an everyday person like
Speaker 1: me when I smoke weed in phases like I may
Speaker 1: smoke weed for a couple of weeks and then not
Speaker 1: smoking nothing for the next year. You feel me all long?
Speaker 2: Is it something that you could deal with and negotiate
Speaker 2: it works out well.
Speaker 1: I think you need to be in a certain place.
Speaker 1: I definitely think, man, if you ain't got your finances
Speaker 1: where you wanted to be, I think you ain't got
Speaker 1: no time to be sitting on smoking weed all day.
Speaker 1: That's just me, though.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a better question.
Speaker 1: Right there, they just pull it up in there.
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me ask you a better question. It
Speaker 2: is a better question for you. H here's a better
Speaker 2: question for you. If you had to pick a year.
Speaker 1: Wash up? Og you all right? You hold up?
Speaker 2: You trying to get together? So let me ask you
Speaker 2: a question, a big growth show.
Speaker 3: If one two one two? Can you hear me? I
Speaker 3: can't hear ship?
Speaker 1: We can here, can you? Gus? Okay?
Speaker 2: So look, you to pick a year if you could,
Speaker 2: if you could pick a year that the sensitivity level
Speaker 2: could go back to, what year would it be? Where
Speaker 2: you was like, this is where this is the furthest
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, society, this is the most
Speaker 2: sensitive society should be. It'd be nineteen.
Speaker 1: Eighty five or ninety.
Speaker 2: Oh sality wasn't that sensitive at all? Back in?
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, gee, let me see if I get age.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, I can hear him? Good, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me let me call him real quick, walking through
Speaker 1: this real quick. Let me go walking through this real quick.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me walking through this real quick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: g eighty five or ninety Yeah, you're on a computer.
Speaker 1: Go on your you're in front, because we can hear you. Good,
Speaker 1: we was hearing you. Perfect. Go go in the computer
Speaker 1: and uh go to your go to your settings, go
Speaker 1: to settings, or you can even jump on your phone
Speaker 1: if you want to want to send a link to
Speaker 1: your phone. Yeah, audio settings and go to hold on
Speaker 1: a second, y'all beer will. It's real quick. Were getting
Speaker 1: homeie eight straight, So we can go in there.
Speaker 2: And go in the audio audio all of this the
Speaker 2: whole time on your part is that what you do?
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna cut it off. I'ma cut this part up.
Speaker 1: So when you go to speaker, right, you see what
Speaker 1: speaker is at? What do we say on that?
Speaker 2: Just in case he doesn't cut it out, I've been
Speaker 2: trying to convince him click speaker that Gangster rap should
Speaker 2: be like by Gangster Chronicles and he should do a
Speaker 2: much better job of taking y'all through all of the
Speaker 2: stuff him and eight saw from when they were teenagers
Speaker 2: and coming into the game. That's my goal, that would be.
Speaker 3: Can hear for sure? All right?
Speaker 2: Do you hold up?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm maintaining my nigga ship.
Speaker 1: You had him in there. I was telling eight man,
Speaker 1: you can't help if you sick.
Speaker 3: Dog.
Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask you this, dog, Now you hear
Speaker 1: this perfect? What year would you say everything was least
Speaker 1: sensitive like eighty five or ninety As far as what
Speaker 1: like people just not being sensitive, like the way you
Speaker 1: could pretty much say what you want to and wou
Speaker 1: nobody trip uh shit.
Speaker 3: I mean as far as a lot of shit today.
Speaker 3: I mean we are basically we just had censorship when
Speaker 3: it came to our music. As far as the radio.
Speaker 3: Niggas didn't get you know, up up up in an
Speaker 3: uproar over over certain shit. You could say certain things
Speaker 3: about certain motherfuckers and it wouldn't be I guess, out
Speaker 3: of line so to speak. You get me, And I
Speaker 3: can remember that back when I first started rapping, you know,
Speaker 3: the mid eighties, you know, the early nineties. Uh, I
Speaker 3: don't know when niggas got so sensitive over shit, you know,
Speaker 3: you know what I was listening to today. I guess
Speaker 3: it comes with the you know, the changing of the
Speaker 3: times and the generation of what niggas feel, you know,
Speaker 3: because people is niggas is sensitive today you can't really
Speaker 3: say too much about and you know, I'm always stressing
Speaker 3: you know what you can't say about certain motherfuckers because.
Speaker 1: You know they get angry. Yeah, you know what, I
Speaker 1: wonder what happened? Uh yeah, you're pop back, but you
Speaker 1: ate you're still there. Yeah, I'm here, OK, sure, Yeah
Speaker 1: we can hear you. His things went up. But the
Speaker 1: thing is this, right, I would listening to DM next
Speaker 1: today where the hood at, and it was on you know,
Speaker 1: listening to Serious XM. He talked about he had a
Speaker 1: lot of derogatory stuff to saying that that song couldn't
Speaker 1: have came out today, Bro.
Speaker 2: It could come out, not what he was saying on
Speaker 2: that he'd got canceled.
Speaker 1: You can't get can't seeing missing with a man, And
Speaker 1: he was talking about all that he had, all the
Speaker 1: buzzwords you can't say, you.
Speaker 2: Can't get you can't get canceled. That's not a real thing.
Speaker 2: You can only get canceled if they financing your campaign,
Speaker 2: like what happened to the baby Like, they only can
Speaker 2: cancel you if they financing your campaign. So if you
Speaker 2: getting corporate money, that's how they controlling everybody. They controlling
Speaker 2: everybody because the corporation's pay them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, we will definitely get canceled.
Speaker 1: Them talking about because you you lost all your sponsorships
Speaker 1: the first show you ever had.
Speaker 2: That's because that's how it's gonna go. That's glass is
Speaker 2: gonna live. That's just the outlaw. That's just how it
Speaker 2: came up. I have made a living and been fine
Speaker 2: just being authentic this whole time. And if it take
Speaker 2: me a little longer to get where I'm trying to go.
Speaker 2: I got time. I just got sixty pounds with the
Speaker 2: intentions of making sure I'm around to get everything I
Speaker 2: got coming to me. So I intend to get every
Speaker 2: dime that this game owed me. Let me ask you
Speaker 2: a question, do you think married with children? Is that
Speaker 2: too far? Because I think married with Children probably couldn't
Speaker 2: come out today.
Speaker 3: Hell no, nigga, that's my that was that's one of
Speaker 3: my I'll watched that ship faithfully, right yeah, right now,
Speaker 3: I watched that ship faithfully, nigga. I got about I
Speaker 3: got probably about one hundred episodes and ship of married
Speaker 3: with Children. Uh, it's raunchy, you get me. Uh, But
Speaker 3: like you said, al they say ship that you know
Speaker 3: definitely wouldn't go down today, you get me. They talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, the other side, they talk about all kinds
Speaker 3: of men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they going crazy girls they got.
Speaker 1: I tell you. The show back in the day that
Speaker 1: used to really get off with doing stuff was anything
Speaker 1: that Norman Lear made, like Archie Bunker, Jeffersons, you know
Speaker 1: all of them, dog even saying for the sun you
Speaker 1: can say what you want to. They would call people,
Speaker 1: you know, the white folks out their name. I noticed
Speaker 1: they would never say that. They wouldn't never call nobody
Speaker 1: a nigga. They wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 3: But it was still you know, those shows were meant
Speaker 3: to push the line, you know, especially shit like Married
Speaker 3: with Children. It was a show that was to push
Speaker 3: the line. And what was good about it. It wasn't
Speaker 3: like it wasn't just you know, the white people just
Speaker 3: always degrading or talking about the black people or whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 3: They with themselves and ship and they dealt with their
Speaker 3: own poverty and being poor and living in fuck the
Speaker 3: situations and whatever and their reality, and they wasn't afraid
Speaker 3: to poke fun at themselves. That's what the whole point
Speaker 3: about it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish you could go back to that era, man, Yeah, gee,
Speaker 1: I would say about from maybe nineteen seventy man to
Speaker 1: probably nineteen ninety, after ninety, after the two thousands, everything
Speaker 1: got sought.
Speaker 2: You don't think everything hip hop is still You don't
Speaker 2: think hip hop is still edgy?
Speaker 1: Hell no, no, A few people live, but no, you
Speaker 1: people too afraid of losing stuff, man, you know, And
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that, man. You know, if you
Speaker 1: would do, like if you saw all the stuff. But
Speaker 1: the baby lost he was cracking dog. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he would recover from that.
Speaker 2: Bro Yeah, but the baby only lost it because they
Speaker 2: gave it to him. So if somebody, like if Nike
Speaker 2: paid me two million dollars and then I go on
Speaker 2: this reebox spur talk about reebok, I may lose this
Speaker 2: two million dollars. So again, they could only cancel if
Speaker 2: they make you. Right, that's it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We don't. We don't gotta play ball. I mean just
Speaker 2: you just might lose what was it, Pepsi or coke?
Speaker 2: Which one was it? You might lose coke and you
Speaker 2: might lose Budwiser, which is crazy that Budwiser could judge me.
Speaker 2: That's just like crazy, y'all sell beer to hell? You
Speaker 2: judging me? Fo, You know what I'm saying, But I
Speaker 2: don't mind.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Look, I watched a lot of people that came up
Speaker 2: in the same lifestyle as me. Blazed doors. I watched
Speaker 2: eight blazed doors, I watch Q blazed doors, I watch
Speaker 2: dog blazed doors, everybody blazing doors. For me to not
Speaker 2: have to be somebody I'm not, and I'll be damn
Speaker 2: ice tea blazed doors, and I'll be damn if I
Speaker 2: sell it out tone Low, I'll be damn if I
Speaker 2: sell it out to try to get something sooner than
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it. Like I love how ice tea.
Speaker 2: You know when you watch SVU, it don't say Tracy Morrow,
Speaker 2: say I tea. I love that he could cut some
Speaker 2: motherfucker out on his Twitter and be himself. And you
Speaker 2: know you don't hear Dick Wolf and them fin a
Speaker 2: pull a rug for up under his deal or you
Speaker 2: still see him doing deals with uh, what's the chicken
Speaker 2: place that the chicken strips can't raising canes with the
Speaker 2: iced tea? And he's in the commercial, and he's in
Speaker 2: the he's in the warranty commercials for the cars. Because
Speaker 2: these people are blazing the trail that shows the world
Speaker 2: has an affinity for people that make this version of
Speaker 2: reality rap that we do. So I just watch everybody
Speaker 2: blaze the trail, and I think long as each of
Speaker 2: us individually don't sell out and really just do what
Speaker 2: we do and wait till it's coming, it'll happen. The
Speaker 2: only issue is when you want it to happen sooner. Well,
Speaker 2: guess what they might want a little booty for that,
Speaker 2: you might have to go to a puff party.
Speaker 1: You know what. I had this conversation with eight today.
Speaker 1: What I was telling glasses Ate before you came on, right,
Speaker 1: I was telling him man that I wish that we
Speaker 1: can do the show like we do the conversations that
Speaker 1: we have offline, right, and wouldn't nobody because I just
Speaker 1: think I think if we had the conversations we'd really
Speaker 1: be having. Man, I think we'd be the number one
Speaker 1: show in the world dog because we don't be necessarily
Speaker 1: dissing nobody, but we just be really telling the truth.
Speaker 1: Not that we come on here and lie, but I
Speaker 1: think we be giving a lot of people passed. Like
Speaker 1: I just told them, I love I'm a big Bust
Speaker 1: of Rhymes fan. I think I said that before Eight.
Speaker 1: I don't like that new single he came out with.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I just don't. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: slip here and say it's trash, but I don't like it.
Speaker 1: But that's no knock against Bust the Rhymes. I love
Speaker 1: Bust the Rhymes as a person. I think his music.
Speaker 1: I think he done gave us some incredible music. I
Speaker 1: just don't like this particular song. That don't mean I
Speaker 1: don't like Bust to Bus, And I just think it's
Speaker 1: messed up that we don't got to the place man
Speaker 1: where really you can't really.
Speaker 2: Say nothing nobody, But why can't you? You can? You
Speaker 2: just gotta be okay with if Bust the Bus don't
Speaker 2: like you saying this song ain't good.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 2: So if you, if you, yeah, if you, if you,
Speaker 2: if you worry about Bust the Ron's feelings, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, you better not say what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But again, if you want anybody to respect you as
Speaker 2: a man and have your opinion, you're gonna rub some
Speaker 2: You're gonna rub some people the wrong way. That just
Speaker 2: come with the territory that that's that's part of the
Speaker 2: stuff ad them had to go through and and forging
Speaker 2: this path for what though white folks start calling against
Speaker 2: the rap, I mean, they was telling exactly how it was.
Speaker 2: They wasn't the media darlings. None of them dudes that
Speaker 2: came out was.
Speaker 1: The media darlings.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They had it hard and tough.
Speaker 2: They wasn't getting all opportunities, they wasn't getting placed in
Speaker 2: and uh, what's the lead the weapon films. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, They wasn't the songs wasn't getting used there.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. They if you think about it,
Speaker 2: that whole genre that they created, gave us films named
Speaker 2: after the genre. You know what I mean, whether it's
Speaker 2: a song like Boys in the Hood or you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how you get the film Minister Society
Speaker 2: is because of the success of what the white folks
Speaker 2: coin gangster rep So you know, fortune favors the brave.
Speaker 2: You know, if you won't say what you want to say,
Speaker 2: just be okay with and somebody might want to walk
Speaker 2: up and kick your ass because they feelish hurt.
Speaker 1: Man. You know what, I really hope somebody, man. I
Speaker 1: think people sometimes think its ain't no cripple, no blood.
Speaker 1: I wish somebody would somebody get hurt, real bad dog.
Speaker 2: Before you get the threatening people. That's not what I'm saying, man.
Speaker 3: I try to tell That's what I was saying the
Speaker 3: other day when we was talking, like some niggas just
Speaker 3: gonna be butt hert how you try to word it.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, some niggas gonna
Speaker 3: be butt her. Some niggas can't take criticism or or
Speaker 3: you know, as opposed to it coming from someone who's
Speaker 3: not of their peers. You feel me, Like you said, Nigga,
Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't have anything personal with you, but
Speaker 3: as far as your work and whatever, blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: my opinion might be, you know, different than what somebody
Speaker 3: might be blowing smoke up your ass, you know, and
Speaker 3: that might intend, like you said, Nigga might want to
Speaker 3: step to you and be like, Nigga, what you mean?
Speaker 3: What you mean? Like, Nigga's just my opinion, Like, I
Speaker 3: don't have anything personal, but just like I told you,
Speaker 3: some niggas, you're gonna have to expect that approach because
Speaker 3: they're sensitive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a whole lot of sensitive people nowadays, man,
Speaker 1: because anything used to be like that before. Though you
Speaker 1: tell somebody they stuff was, Man, this ain't good. You
Speaker 1: just have to accept it. Yeah, I heard.
Speaker 2: I heard the writers had it pretty bad. I heard
Speaker 2: stories of Soaring and them telling me that people did
Speaker 2: approach them, like what's up with this?
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never you know, regardless of what I felt,
Speaker 3: if I didn't get a good write up in the magazine,
Speaker 3: if I expected you know, four mics and they gave
Speaker 3: me three or three and a half for you know,
Speaker 3: I've always accepted criticism. You know, everybody not gonna like everything,
Speaker 3: and I've accepted that. Oh this song was hard, but
Speaker 3: I didn't like this one, man, I don't. I didn't
Speaker 3: like it. That's your opinion. I'm not gonna get offended
Speaker 3: because you're not gonna like everything I do. That's that's
Speaker 3: just that just comes with being a professional artist to me,
Speaker 3: And that's with anything, nigga. If I was build the
Speaker 3: low Riders and shit, some niggas ain't gonna like one
Speaker 3: of my bills. Some niggas ain't gonna like one of
Speaker 3: my paint jobs or one of my setups. You get me.
Speaker 3: It's just no every and niggas have the right to
Speaker 3: do that. Now, how you accept that? And how a
Speaker 3: nigga come at me telling me about my shit? You know,
Speaker 3: it's a difference of opinion. Nigga ain't gonna just walk
Speaker 3: up and be like, Nigga, your setup was fucked up,
Speaker 3: you're set up with this? Or you now now you
Speaker 3: might you know, you might warn a slap or two
Speaker 3: or or confrontation as opposed to hey man, you know, hey,
Speaker 3: you the one that hooked up the so and so. Yeah, man,
Speaker 3: yeah shit, I usually do my shit like this, or
Speaker 3: I've seen some shit like this. Maybe next time you
Speaker 3: should do this or do this. I'm a might. I
Speaker 3: might take your opinion of what you're telling me and
Speaker 3: I might try it. You know, it just all the
Speaker 3: way you got to come at a motherfucker. I guess
Speaker 3: Oh gee, you gotta put eight in the one ten
Speaker 3: of them?
Speaker 2: Yuh for sure.
Speaker 1: You know Last is doing this whole project eight called
Speaker 1: it's called one ten. It's like a supergroup. So it's
Speaker 1: called Custom Culture. It's about car culture. It's all. Every
Speaker 1: song is about, like low Ride, you feel me.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just if the Beach Boys was crips,
Speaker 2: this is what they like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, that's cracking.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you all this. Let me see
Speaker 1: if either one of y'all, what album that y'all came
Speaker 1: out that got hyped up? Man, it just was super
Speaker 1: that was overrated to y'all. You think you Madic was
Speaker 1: super overrated?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you Madic wasn't made for me.
Speaker 2: So when I heard it, or even when I listen
Speaker 2: to it now, I find myself listening to it thirty
Speaker 2: times to figure out. I still ain't figured out quite
Speaker 2: what you know, all the homey from New York here
Speaker 2: in Phield, I still have no idea. D I still
Speaker 2: don't get it. Like every time they framed the narrative,
Speaker 2: it be a bunch of stuff that don't quite make sense.
Speaker 2: But again that's the thing about hip hop, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Culturally it may don't have to make
Speaker 2: sense to me. I'm not from New York. I don't
Speaker 2: get it. I think it's cool, Like I like Life
Speaker 2: is Good as Life is Good is a way better album. Uh,
Speaker 2: what's the other joint? The follow up joint? What's the
Speaker 2: follow up to? That came out ninety six?
Speaker 1: That m if I with the world.
Speaker 2: That was that's the second album?
Speaker 3: Was that?
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, that's not ESCO and that ain't that's that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I listen.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I like still Madic, I love still Madic, Still mad
Speaker 2: to me. The second album that had the lauryn Hill
Speaker 2: joint on there that they was it was yeah that
Speaker 2: they got from Curtis Blow. Life is Good. It's my
Speaker 2: favorite NAS album. I don't know what them dudes here
Speaker 2: when they hear Illmatic, but they feel the same way
Speaker 2: when I listen to dub C the shadiest one. They
Speaker 2: don't have no idea how I hear it. To them.
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, this is cool. People that was coming
Speaker 2: up into their teenage years. Like that came out when
Speaker 2: I was finna be eighteen. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: that I had just got my low Rider. I am
Speaker 2: living with this man talking about in records. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, This is crazy, this is amazing. So again,
Speaker 2: that's the thing about hip hop, the representation you get
Speaker 2: from it. But hell Matic would be that record that
Speaker 2: I heard all the gas over And this is probably
Speaker 2: the twenty seventh time I've listened to it, and I'm
Speaker 2: still trying to figure out why is everybody so pumped up?
Speaker 1: You know what, man, I'm trying to think it's something
Speaker 1: that was super overrated to me. I'm gonna tell you, man,
Speaker 1: And people probably would get mad at me for this. Man,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good album. I don't think
Speaker 1: it touched the first ones. I think the chronic Thumb,
Speaker 1: the second chronic, I don't think that. I thought it
Speaker 1: was cool.
Speaker 2: Now, see, I think something wrong with your ears, dog
Speaker 2: Like this is crazy. You don't listen to me.
Speaker 1: I liked songs on it that was jamming like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying an album with jamming, But I don't
Speaker 1: think it was better than the first one, not as
Speaker 1: a whole body of work.
Speaker 2: It's different than the first.
Speaker 1: One's see what I'm saying, bro, I'm not saying this whack.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's whack at always a great album,
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't think it's like the first one.
Speaker 1: From beginning to end. This one had joints on there.
Speaker 1: I didn't like some of them songs on that though.
Speaker 1: I always thought hit Man was overrated, overrated. I don't
Speaker 1: like hit Man.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: He was really rhyme. But that's why he didn't come
Speaker 1: out with nothing that was though.
Speaker 2: He was just That's not why hit is not average.
Speaker 2: That's just crazy.
Speaker 1: That's why start.
Speaker 3: I think a lot a lot of niggas got caught up,
Speaker 3: and you know of what the success of what dre was,
Speaker 3: and you still got to establish your own ship. You
Speaker 3: feel me, you you get that, you get that, you
Speaker 3: get that shootout to starting gates, but you still gotta
Speaker 3: go out there. You know, sometimes niggas will leave you hanging.
Speaker 3: You gotta go out there and self promote and get
Speaker 3: yourself shipped together. And a lot of times when you ride,
Speaker 3: you know, on someone else's ticket, you wait for them
Speaker 3: to uh, you wait for them to uh produce your success.
Speaker 3: You get me instead of you know, a nigga like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out and do it regardless. Fuck it.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna wait around until I get an aftermath record,
Speaker 3: did or if I look up and it's two years
Speaker 3: later and it ain't shit happening and we're still riding
Speaker 3: the success off the project we did two years ago.
Speaker 3: Especially if I'm not signed as an artist or anything,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go out and create my own
Speaker 3: buzz or my own situation because I already got, you know,
Speaker 3: my foot in the door as far as being on
Speaker 3: the project and with Dre and producing and doing all
Speaker 3: of that. So I'm gonna go create my own lane
Speaker 3: because I already feel like I already got the hand
Speaker 3: in the foot in the door.
Speaker 2: You feel me, I'm gonna take I think we really
Speaker 2: got to talk to Hit to really figure out what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you, and this is no knock against
Speaker 1: hit right, this ain't.
Speaker 2: No knocking knock. You said hit with you.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you. Listen, listen, lemna tell you this.
Speaker 1: If you record was dope to watch, it was dope. Still,
Speaker 1: Dre was dope. Explosive was incredible. Forgot about Dre was good.
Speaker 1: The next episode was incredible. The less Get High Records
Speaker 1: You was fire. I want to say that it was good.
Speaker 1: I said it was good fun. It was good some
Speaker 1: mal lady niggas. I like that act, right.
Speaker 3: I didn't like that. That was.
Speaker 1: That was ther never all let the being, the being,
Speaker 1: the being, the being, the thing and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: It was cool. No bang bang was underninked bang bang
Speaker 1: bang bang. That was whatever to me. I thought the
Speaker 1: message was cool. It was like that. It had some
Speaker 1: amazing joints on there, but some of them songs was missing. Dog.
Speaker 1: I liked some of the hit Man's raps man, but
Speaker 1: other than that man hit Man looked like a fact
Speaker 1: a dude to sit home, eat don us and write
Speaker 1: wraps all day.
Speaker 2: What that got to do with him being See this
Speaker 2: is why you can't have an opinion because you just
Speaker 2: go too fucking far. See how you just said that ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you gotta understand that's what still wants to
Speaker 3: go there. You get me to go there, and I'll
Speaker 3: be telling him it's a certain way you you go there,
Speaker 3: like we had this discussion. Now if you won't. If
Speaker 3: you're gonna say something about a niggas work, that's cool,
Speaker 3: but you don't turn around and say, yeah, nigga like
Speaker 3: you step you stepping over the line. Now you now
Speaker 3: you're going personal, So now find to you personal. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say something about you or something personal, because what
Speaker 3: the does my songs have to do with how I look?
Speaker 3: I look like I'm sitting on the couch eating donuts
Speaker 3: all day. Where where is now? You're looking to go personal?
Speaker 3: You cannot do that. If you want to have an
Speaker 3: opinion about a nigga's work, that's fine. But if you
Speaker 3: want to set up and say a nigga look like
Speaker 3: he eating donuts all day, sitting on it, now you
Speaker 3: go on personal.
Speaker 1: Feel Let me say what I'm saying. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let me elaborate on that. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is this in order to be a superstar.
Speaker 2: You have to We're not talking before you do this.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about his marketability as a talent. They rapping. No,
Speaker 2: you said he was average. Hit is way better than
Speaker 2: average as an MC. That's crazy. You just said that.
Speaker 2: Now you started to go into your exact bage, start
Speaker 2: talking about how tough it would be the market. Hit boy,
Speaker 2: we never got there. You're saying two thousand and one
Speaker 2: could be overrated because you're not a fan of hits music,
Speaker 2: not his marketability. Eminem is on the record, Snoop is
Speaker 2: on the record. These are some of the biggest stars,
Speaker 2: Doctor Dre, these are huge stars. They didn't need the
Speaker 2: fourth Big Store. They needed a dope MC to rap
Speaker 2: and hit. Really like how Snoop was to the first
Speaker 2: chronic hit was to.
Speaker 1: The two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: He carried it on his back as a MC. So again,
Speaker 2: I get what now, I get why E stops you
Speaker 2: because you just go to damn far It starts off
Speaker 2: being about the pen.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do this right. I apologize, hit man. It
Speaker 1: wasn't nothing personal, Yes it was. I'll bust the mister
Speaker 1: toughy slash a smoothie duffy crashing flex on Tuesdays and
Speaker 1: rasping holds the movies. I had somebody with Oozy's that
Speaker 1: shady diiction, that bi nigga that was.
Speaker 2: I don't sympathize for black holes and whipping guys.
Speaker 1: You gotta recognize Hitmanerprise, Kelly, Pride, Bonds and Riders South
Speaker 1: Centralized the hen he got me that nice poke their
Speaker 1: eyes out on Mala's locus. Hope they don't have to
Speaker 1: find out the hard way. Snicks niggas in the pen
Speaker 1: to get hit when the guards look the other way.
Speaker 2: Well hitting the treas.
Speaker 1: You playing games. I suggest you know the rules were
Speaker 1: putting guns to fools. Make sure you run your jew
Speaker 1: take honey and cruise to the snoody and snooze fools.
Speaker 1: Pop koochie to this nut oozes. You shouldn't fuck with
Speaker 1: cruise this sick. The aftermath is we rules. Confuse me
Speaker 1: with the weather about the blow, motherfucker fucker.
Speaker 2: That's fun. Steve, you was a fucking hater, that shit tough.
Speaker 2: That mea is nice? That's nice?
Speaker 1: Was he?
Speaker 2: One two three into the four nice bro Snoop is
Speaker 2: a fucking eight is a first Battle Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Snoop is like like dog, like that's not fair, like
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ like that.
Speaker 1: Compare that the shots hit the crowd, then everybody ran
Speaker 1: whole Hunt's thing. That's like memorable dog, you know, But
Speaker 1: you're talking.
Speaker 2: About first ballot Hall of Famers. Eight and Dog are
Speaker 2: first battle of Hall of Famer. You can't compare everybody
Speaker 2: to eight and Dog. They don't do that. He's not
Speaker 2: a culture. Eight is a cultural phenomenon. Dog is a
Speaker 2: cultural phenomenon. Q not just dope m c's. They're also
Speaker 2: like revelations and culture. It's like their personal renaissance.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: They represent something that never been seen versus hitting just
Speaker 2: a nice MC.
Speaker 1: What like a seid like he alluded to earlier, right
Speaker 1: and not sure you know what hit. I'm apologized. I should.
Speaker 2: Cut your stupid ass out all here. I'm gonna call
Speaker 2: it first thing in the morning, telling me make a
Speaker 2: dish on your ass and this the ship out of you.
Speaker 2: You don't want to battle hit that dog? I have
Speaker 2: hit served your ass to do that when you ain't
Speaker 2: been in front of that mic. Still your pen might
Speaker 2: still be good with yo, but that but that microphone different.
Speaker 1: I gonna do what he do. The snooty snoozey suzy
Speaker 1: zy roll through the groupies.
Speaker 3: I can't do it.
Speaker 1: Here you go, I hit the lucy, lose and the boozy.
Speaker 2: I get what AD is saying, Dog, you don't know how.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you mean if you be when you put
Speaker 1: yourself in that place, Dog in the upper ex line,
Speaker 1: you gotta be saying some stuff. Hit Man was cool, Dog,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He was him.
Speaker 2: Man is nice. It's not fair to compare him to
Speaker 2: eight to Q to dog first Battle Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: acts from the West. That's not fair because that's not
Speaker 2: That's more than just him seeing these are the first
Speaker 2: time people seeing this ship. They never even saw no
Speaker 2: ship like this, let alone the styles it is. Hit
Speaker 2: is dope. Even if it is it is not a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. But for sure he had a fucking
Speaker 2: All Star year, All Star year. That year he was
Speaker 2: in the All Star Game.
Speaker 4: He was killing that year, Oh Dele. He definitely contributed
Speaker 4: to the record. His presence was on all over the record.
Speaker 4: I don't think guy I never had an opinion about,
Speaker 4: you know, the contributions that he gave on on on
Speaker 4: the chronic record.
Speaker 3: I thought they were sufficient, you know, as standing up
Speaker 3: to Uh you know, who are all the other cats
Speaker 3: that was on the records? Uh M and exhibit and.
Speaker 2: You got all Hall of Famers eight on it. That's
Speaker 2: all Hall of Famers. This all Hall of this, like
Speaker 2: all Hall of Famers, and you got to show up.
Speaker 3: As they always believe in the up and comers. You know,
Speaker 3: he always give a shot to the up and comers,
Speaker 3: and he felt it was one of those.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Like I said, he contributed it significantly to that record.
Speaker 3: And I don't think I ever heard anyone's opinion of
Speaker 3: less of him on the record, like oh, nah, man,
Speaker 3: they shouldn't have or whatever whatever. You know, Uh, it's
Speaker 3: just you know, I guess you know, if every to
Speaker 3: each his own, everybody has their opinion about what they
Speaker 3: feel or whatever. Like I said, it never bothered me.
Speaker 3: I thought his contributions were significant when it came to
Speaker 3: that record.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like he sounded out of place. You get
Speaker 3: me in comparison to like you said, the Hall of
Speaker 3: Famers whatever, he didn't sound out of place.
Speaker 2: You know who he is on on the Dynasty Lakers.
Speaker 2: He's Rick Foxla.
Speaker 1: That's a good comparison, tell you real quick. G did
Speaker 1: you get that text me just sent you about Biggie
Speaker 1: and him stole that juicy record from that dude from Mississippi.
Speaker 2: I was ignoring. I was ignoring that was a real thing, dog.
Speaker 1: Like, that wasn't made up stuff. His record came up
Speaker 1: before Biggie's record.
Speaker 3: Nobody heard that.
Speaker 1: I don't think Biggie stole I think Puffy probably heard
Speaker 1: that record because he said they were sitting the demo off.
Speaker 1: He sounds mister the big billy man.
Speaker 2: Why this is why people stopped accepting demos because of
Speaker 2: silliness like this.
Speaker 1: That was hard.
Speaker 3: Man, that he was dope.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it wasn't a dope song, but that's
Speaker 2: just you can't just go around saying somebody stole something.
Speaker 1: Still man, that's what he said. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of people. He had the receipts.
Speaker 2: He don't have no receipts. All you can say put
Speaker 2: his out first, But I mean it is sampling and
Speaker 2: too may like that that might happen.
Speaker 1: And so his name just happened to be notorious b
Speaker 1: One Big Daddy. His song was hard.
Speaker 2: It wasn't mader than juicy. It was dope. See, this
Speaker 2: is what you disseminate for I'm sorry, I'm trying to.
Speaker 3: Traversity.
Speaker 1: He loves the man.
Speaker 2: Stuff you can't say. Probably, you can't just go around
Speaker 2: saying people stole stuff. Man, I'm telling you I'm not one.
Speaker 2: His name is Notorious One.
Speaker 3: That that's his line he's pushing down. Still go push
Speaker 3: that lie. He gonna push that third line like, I
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck. I'm gonna say nigga stole it.
Speaker 3: And then when you say that you have proof of that,
Speaker 3: how can you say that don't matter nigga. I'm just
Speaker 3: putting it out there because he came up before biggiees Do.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a national smash.
Speaker 1: Still, I don't think no see will say this. I
Speaker 1: don't think Biggie stole. I think probably heard that.
Speaker 2: Probably there's serious accusations in hip hop. You don't think
Speaker 2: you should be a little bit more like thoughtful about
Speaker 2: these type of accusations that this is why somebody gonna
Speaker 2: fight you.
Speaker 1: Notorious b One, Notorious be One. If you out there, man,
Speaker 1: we want to holler at you. Man, were gonna help
Speaker 1: you get this.
Speaker 2: You want to stroke that fire, do that you.
Speaker 3: Just he loves.
Speaker 1: You like man, Notorious b One shot the Notorious b
Speaker 1: One and you know what, it was heartbreaking. I like
Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls. I don't think Biggie stole it. Do I
Speaker 1: think some Diddy probably did? We see Diddy as a
Speaker 1: doe the bad character?
Speaker 2: How can we see Diddy is a bad character.
Speaker 3: That's your opinion, right, that's your is my opinion?
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna start putting disclaimer at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show. The opinions of this show are each
Speaker 1: of the own individual hosts. Norman Steel's opinion is not
Speaker 1: eights opinion. Eights opinion is not Norman Steeles. When last
Speaker 1: Malone say something crazy, it's not my opinion. It's his opinion,
Speaker 1: and I support it. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Something work I'm saying to you is you don't think
Speaker 2: that that type of accusation and hip hop should be
Speaker 2: a little bit more thought after.
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: If you say Notorious b One came out with his
Speaker 2: mt MA sample before, that's cool, that's all you gotta say.
Speaker 2: But if you Notorious b One, listen, but if you
Speaker 2: start a legend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because what are you trying to allege? You going?
Speaker 3: You're saying his name is notorious he had the sample.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying big did it, but.
Speaker 1: You are you are You are a professional rap You've
Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time. She's a professional rapper.
Speaker 1: Don't this sound kind of familiar?
Speaker 3: Jesus, you know how I mean these songs that I
Speaker 3: have that I recorded that about seven eight other artists
Speaker 3: have recorded to the same fucking song. I got a
Speaker 3: song right now, fucking drive by Miss Daisy. Main Source
Speaker 3: did the friendly Game of Baseball, same shiit, same sample,
Speaker 3: same motherfucking song breakdown. You know what people said, Oh,
Speaker 3: main Source used that sample too. They didn't say one
Speaker 3: of y'all stole it. They just said both of y'all
Speaker 3: got good ears because both of y'all picked it the
Speaker 3: good sound.
Speaker 1: And see, that's just something that's a coincidence.
Speaker 3: One Is it just a coincidence? Though?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Because why, in your opinion, have they stolen this dude ship?
Speaker 3: Why do you feel that because it sounded like it
Speaker 3: was all a dream. I used to read magazine, Brandy
Speaker 3: Game of Baseball sounds just like Drive by Miss Daisy.
Speaker 3: It comes on the same, it sounds the same. So
Speaker 3: why in your opinion did they steal this boy's identity?
Speaker 1: Why Puffy heard that dude stuff the demo cross.
Speaker 3: No proof of that. Though you have no proof of it,
Speaker 3: you're making Listen, you do what these other fake gass
Speaker 3: neves people do. You cannot do that, throw out stories
Speaker 3: because you want to throw them out. Have factuals on
Speaker 3: the hoard. No, no, we're not going to be doing
Speaker 3: hypotheticals well out there, well well well because now we
Speaker 3: look at you, we're looking like all the other mother
Speaker 3: and I told you this.
Speaker 2: We cannot do that unless.
Speaker 3: We're not going out story just because they sound good.
Speaker 1: You know, that's not what I'm doing. See. The thing is,
Speaker 1: this is what I say. His record was out a
Speaker 1: year before that, so your homework, so what he had
Speaker 1: his song?
Speaker 3: Now you would have to have the actual receipts saying
Speaker 3: Puff Daddy stole his whole identity. Without that, it's just
Speaker 3: your opinion. It's just.
Speaker 1: Still still you. You see, I haven't I haven't this.
Speaker 2: Big I did not you was going through this. I
Speaker 2: did not know.
Speaker 3: You're not just in Biggie smalls. But what you're falsifying
Speaker 3: accusations because you're turning around and saying, I don't think Puff,
Speaker 3: I don't think Biggie did it, but I think Puffy
Speaker 3: did it.
Speaker 2: And it's like you're on Puff because he's in prison. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he said he's already a bad person. You see what
Speaker 2: he's going through. You see how you threw that out there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that that nigga Puffy did it. I'm telling
Speaker 3: you you.
Speaker 2: Puff has a history of still the music. I didn't
Speaker 2: never hear Puff stole records from people. When what's the
Speaker 2: other records?
Speaker 3: They said that and that, and we got to stop.
Speaker 3: We can't push that, we can't push that.
Speaker 1: Still.
Speaker 3: I'll give them damn. I said, stole the ship. So
Speaker 3: that's what we do.
Speaker 1: Then then when Biggie Dad he went to find a
Speaker 1: fake biggie, he went and put Shining there, told Shine
Speaker 1: to come and do some biggie stuff.
Speaker 2: You you, I think you need to end the pie bro.
Speaker 2: You you you you get.
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 3: Delusion?
Speaker 2: Or you saying that crazy ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it up to the public, y'all go
Speaker 1: check out Notorious.
Speaker 2: Be One, do your research. Checkout when you do the research.
Speaker 1: Why are you trying to stifle Notorious be One? Why
Speaker 1: you hating no One?
Speaker 2: No, it's not I'm not stifling him. I'm saying you
Speaker 2: should make a whole piece of you doing the homework
Speaker 2: versus you just throwing out some national I have.
Speaker 1: Been I have been investigating that dough show.
Speaker 2: Us, show us the email, Show us the proof that
Speaker 2: he sent it to upstairs record or to somebody in
Speaker 2: New York. Show us where he sent to that uptown records.
Speaker 3: He said, his records.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna read what he said before.
Speaker 2: We don't read what he said, go do the homework.
Speaker 3: Let me saying, I'm gonna ready.
Speaker 2: I did not know you was going through this. This
Speaker 2: nigga crazy.
Speaker 3: Still said nigga, we finish, get nigga. I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: just finish safeck it and that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have my opinions about niggas and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let I'm gonna set it off.
Speaker 1: This is what the rap game is, a cold world world.
Speaker 1: A rapper names and Notorious Big One. It's upset that
Speaker 1: he was ripped off. The game is dirty. I mean
Speaker 1: Notorious b One and he had a reported song called
Speaker 1: Big Daddy that did zero damn it. She was from Mississippi.
Speaker 1: This is a real song that use the same sample
Speaker 1: as Juicy, which was derived from the hit song Juicy
Speaker 1: Fruit by Him Toomey. Decades after the tragic end of
Speaker 1: Christopher Wallace. This song is making the rounds and the
Speaker 1: rappers talking. Basically, aggravations are here. He was ripped off.
Speaker 1: He was the Big Eat Smalls, the Big East Malls
Speaker 1: due to a lawsuit by Calvin Lockhart in nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 1: then became Notorious Big in ninety three. See one thing
Speaker 1: I will get Big on. I talked to the homie right,
Speaker 1: the homie DD say that Big got his name from
Speaker 1: a smoker. She used to call him big Hey, big
Speaker 1: Hey big, And that's when he became big.
Speaker 2: Everybody start calling them big, right, And you accused one
Speaker 2: of your homie's friends. And still in the song go ahead,
Speaker 2: I don't think I.
Speaker 3: Thought he got the name from that movie with Sidney
Speaker 3: Portier and Bill Cosby. And that's wh why they made
Speaker 3: him stop saying that, because there was a character in
Speaker 3: that movie.
Speaker 1: Called Biggie Smalls. He couldn't use Biggie Small no more
Speaker 1: Bigg's names of ego, big Popper. I know some of
Speaker 1: you have stuff under your nose to not smell it,
Speaker 1: But that's not going to change the fact that this
Speaker 1: is no coincidence. One similarity is one thing, but several
Speaker 1: along with missioning, the man stating the song and questions
Speaker 1: a bulls eye. Now I don't agree with that person
Speaker 1: down to the East Coast.
Speaker 2: Listen, it's not a bulls eye. Look, I get it.
Speaker 2: Everybody in hip hop feels like they have the most
Speaker 2: unique idea and how dare someone else sample the same
Speaker 2: record at them or have the same idea, even though
Speaker 2: notorys was a word that was really popularized at that
Speaker 2: time as certain things, right, I'm all least.
Speaker 1: What they said. Big is an amazing MC and this
Speaker 1: takes nothing away from that. He's a great without Juicy, Buffy,
Speaker 1: Stole and Ida and names that came from B one
Speaker 1: because he was desperate to win and the work.
Speaker 2: So here's a better question. Why did it not work
Speaker 2: for B One?
Speaker 1: This is what he said though. In ninety ninety three,
Speaker 1: I was signed to a small record label called Dragon
Speaker 1: Records in Golfport, Mississippi. I had a song that I
Speaker 1: wrote to M two men called Juicy Fruit. I wrote
Speaker 1: the song to the actual record and it was called
Speaker 1: Big Daddy, Big Daddy was the lead single off the
Speaker 1: Mississippi Dope Boys album that was released in September ninety two.
Speaker 1: It was released on the same day of Snoop Dogg's
Speaker 1: first album, Doggy Snouder. Dope Boy's album was made by
Speaker 1: two Golf Court rappers, Tilly Dee and myself, the Notorious
Speaker 1: Big One. Yeah, I had to name the song first.
Speaker 1: I know it might be hard to believe, but it
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent of truth. We was on the
Speaker 1: radio first and in the stores first. We sent packtages
Speaker 1: to all the major labels shopping for distribution. Just imagine
Speaker 1: my surprise when people started calling me saying they just
Speaker 1: seen my video. We was trying to get the truth
Speaker 1: out back then, but Puppy kept shutting us down and
Speaker 1: we left it alone. I'm not fat anymore than a
Speaker 1: lot has changed. But before I leave this big So,
Speaker 1: I want everybody to know the truth. I was the
Speaker 1: original Notorious Big One.
Speaker 2: Notorious Big One. I'm not saying none of that. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying that just in bad taste.
Speaker 1: So the man shouldn't say nothing. He just let it
Speaker 1: go home.
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to say nothing's going to happen today,
Speaker 3: So What do you want?
Speaker 2: What do you want? You want the credit for a
Speaker 2: record that you made that's not a hit record, I.
Speaker 3: Asks, niggas you talking about a nineteen ninety two, ninety three,
Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: What do you want thirty years?
Speaker 3: What do you want?
Speaker 1: You want to probably be acknowledged.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you're not going to be for knowledge.
Speaker 3: So what do you want to be acknowledged for? What
Speaker 3: do you want to be acknowledged for that?
Speaker 2: You was the first person to saple him too? May
Speaker 2: you're not well?
Speaker 1: You know what, he probably wasn't the first person to
Speaker 1: do that. All I'm saying, man, it's a possibility.
Speaker 3: It's saying you don't think that this was what would like?
Speaker 3: I said, what's the end game? What do you want?
Speaker 3: What do you want to happen? You want the world
Speaker 3: to know that I was noty nigga. Biggie's dead, and
Speaker 3: and and Juicy came out thirty years ago, and so
Speaker 3: now today, because Puffy is going through his ship, I
Speaker 3: want to stand up today and go, he stole nothing.
Speaker 2: Shout out to not toys big one. But you know
Speaker 2: you got to have the second one, or the third
Speaker 2: one or the first one, like, that's just the game.
Speaker 2: We don't get to this. I don't get kind of
Speaker 2: this is where it gets tabloid is still cause it's like,
Speaker 2: why are we talking about a gossip colar. There's nothing
Speaker 2: that could happen about.
Speaker 1: This, Hey man, it was just news. It was something
Speaker 1: I saw that was intern.
Speaker 3: Ain't the goddamn newsacher, that's not news. That's that's that's
Speaker 3: controversial bullshit that we're throwing out there because it's not
Speaker 3: news because no one cares. It's not important, it's not sufficient,
Speaker 3: and it's not gonna do anything for hip hop.
Speaker 1: So it's not gonna do this before that, man, But hey,
Speaker 1: it is. I thought I thought it was a coincidence.
Speaker 1: You thought you thought of a coincidence.
Speaker 3: No, my nigga stills go, it's a good way to
Speaker 3: you know, it's a good way to blow smoke up
Speaker 3: nigga's ass because no, nothing like that.
Speaker 2: Is not going to work because nobody is going to
Speaker 2: ever question Biggie. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think nobody cared. I think Biggie head. So
Speaker 1: Biggie's status is locked.
Speaker 2: Big One status ain't gonna be locked because he sampled
Speaker 2: in two mate, his record came out and it could
Speaker 2: have been a hit in the South.
Speaker 1: It's not hey, it is what it is. Man. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Notorious b One, Shout out to Biggie Smalls, Notorious.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to shout out big and puff. Now, you
Speaker 2: don't call it that man a thief. You didn't call
Speaker 2: these people thieves. Try to shot him out after you
Speaker 2: didn't missed them.
Speaker 1: We had to send to the homie rich and see what, Rick,
Speaker 1: You're the only rich you know what, man? See this
Speaker 1: is the funny is I don't had an episode in
Speaker 1: a long time because dudes, Man, we had a good
Speaker 1: time tonight. Man. We enjoy y'all sitting man. We appreciate
Speaker 1: y'all sitting up kicking with us, man as we shoot
Speaker 1: the bullshit and just have a little bit of fun.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna holler y'all next week. We gonna hold
Speaker 1: on y'all. Gotta stay
Speaker 3: H