1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna do things a little different tonight, man, 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: because I get tired of being fucking professional. Man like that, 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: I get tired of being fucking professional. I get tired 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: of I've been doing the same thing. I thought about 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: it today. We've been doing this show since twenty eighteen 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: and it's twenty twenty four. Now that's a long time. 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: I remember when you came up with it in the 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: loft downtown. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that, and it sort of got away 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: from what my original mission was with it. The show 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: was always supposed to be eggy, right. But you know, 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: when you have personnel changes, you can't necessarily do this. 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: You know, you can't necessarily keep the same thing going 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: on when you change the team up a little bit. 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I said, we always the goal 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: to push to me is to get to get this 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: show to change over the Gangster Rap Chronicles, Like Gangster 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: Chronicles was always brilliant idea, you know what I mean. 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: With the original personnel, You know what I'm saying, it 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: was always perfect, like it was cast it for the idea, 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: and now the new cast it doesn't necessarily fit. You 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: know what I mean, y'all not super vested in criminology 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: and crimes. You know what I mean, y'all both probably did 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: your fair shared crimes in you in your day. But really, 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, y'all, more like you're an 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: executive of gangster rap music, you know what I mean, 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: You manage a couple gangster rappers. Eight is a first 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Fame, you know, gangster rappers. So I 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: feel like that's why I was always pushing you to 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: move the show into a gangster rap chronicle perspective and 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: then really have a bunch of dope conversations. But again, 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: the hard part about business is business, you know what 34 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying, The consistency of a brand and you know, 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: moving the space and changing the feed, and you know, 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: how do the fans react? But like I genuinely think, 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: you know, your audience would love it, you know what 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: I mean, because to hear you and Aid speak about 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: gangster rap, you're gonna get like forty years of wisdom 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: in a completely different space. 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, dog Bro, and I wish 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, shout out at the homie ate he may 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: be popping in for a minute. My man, been real 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: sick for the past few weeks. Will you know, you know, 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: get will A but got the homy glass of maloney 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: here with me one thing about it. Do see, whatever 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: we're doing, we gotta be egy with it. Like when 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: I created this show, it was to be exgy, and 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: to be exy you have to have an opinion. Dog, 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm so sick of sitting in the middle of shit 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: because people don't want to upset nobody. And I get it. 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. Don't nobody want beef man, 53 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: But I'm tired of it, man, So from here on out, 54 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak with some on my mind though I'm 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: tired of just I'm tired of playing the game. You 56 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: feel what I'm. 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: Saying, as long as you articulate your thoughts clearly. I mean, 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean, you. 59 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Know you don't really start to playing the game. 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: You know how we do it on no ceilings. You 61 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: feel me. I'm going to say what I think now. 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: You know obviously I've been man. I've seen Lord Jamar 63 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: today like commenting on one of my thoughts. You know 64 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like on Drake not being hip hop, 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: and Lord Jamar was like, oh, I get what he's saying. 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and people like so many 67 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: fans like feel like it has to be about like 68 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: I have a disdain for the artists or I don't. 69 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: Just like if I made Tupac must die, it must 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: be I don't like Tupac. And that's it's just, you know, 71 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: the first thing from the truth. You know me well 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: more well than anybody. I've always been transparent with my thoughts. 73 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: Now I definitely can't. Like I've dealt with Drake more 74 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: than once. You know what I'm saying, But I don't 75 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: have enough information to like or dislike him. And actually 76 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: what I do know about him, you know I like him. 77 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: Same for J Cole. You know I didn't bump to 78 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: the J Cole chopped double him in passing like I 79 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: like him. I don't dislike people. But if as men, 80 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: we can't know. These podcasts are very much like barbershop conversations. 81 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: And it don't matter how many thousands to tens of 82 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: thousands of people that are listening. You just listening to 83 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: us have a barbershop conversation, and I'm transparent. That's why 84 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 2: you don't hear me, you know, even in private or public. 85 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: I don't call you know, you know me, I don't 86 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: call Dracer out of his name, you know what I mean. 87 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: I wouldn't call j Cole out of his name, even 88 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: if I'm describing an action you know what I'm saying 89 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: that he's doing, so you know what I mean. I 90 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: do think there's a space where people are just overtly 91 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: sensitive to where it's like they go right to, oh, 92 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: I hate this person, you know, I mean, he gotta 93 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: hate this person or let me attack him because I 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: like this person. I'm defending him. And it's weird to me, bro, 95 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: because even though my social media is like the people 96 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: that they feel like they're defending who I'm not even attacking. 97 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: Bro. 98 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: It's like they wouldn't even tweet you or talk to 99 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: you if they saw you, Like, you know, I'm the 100 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: type of person. You see how fans been since you 101 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: know me, since I first started, you know, ascertaining some 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: level of fame. I always been pretty personable with people, 103 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: Like to me, I'm like a person of the people, 104 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So to watch people treat 105 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: me like I'm some kind of outcast, that I would 106 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: be the person that's not relatable and some dude who 107 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: really you know, to the most suburban kid, I'm still 108 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: more relatable than Drake or j Cole. You know what 109 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, I'm pretty much straight up and down. 110 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Again, everybody take the crypt 111 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: part and mean that means that, you know, I would 112 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: hurt somebody innocent or snatch some old lady person so 113 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: they you know, your brand gets outcasting into a space 114 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: of fear, or I need to present myself overtly tough 115 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: versus just treating somebody like a regular person. 116 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: What the thing is, man, I just think we too 117 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: sensitive today as a society, as just men in general. 118 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: I notice sometimes and I can't And I ain't gonna 119 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: go in and speaking for nobody else on this show 120 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: because I can't. My man, they ain't here tonight. But 121 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: I think we too sensitive sometimes a lot of times 122 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: I want to have conversations, but then the thing comes 123 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: up where we may get so and so upset. Why 124 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: why are we worried about that? Hold on, cheap me, 125 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: let me land on this. If we are gonna be 126 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: the people that speak on the culture dog, we can't 127 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: be worried about people getting mad. We can't worry about 128 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: people getting upset. Now, I'm gonna tell you this, I 129 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: would never come on. I'm never go do the ambush journalism. 130 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna do the stuff the world we just 131 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: dissing people just to dis people. You feel what I mean? 132 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: That ain't cool right there? But I think if I 133 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: have an opinion about somebody's music, like I'm gonna tell 134 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: you that new Bus the Bus and I'm a Bust 135 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: the Bus fan. I'm a Bust of Rhymes fan. Man, 136 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: I can't stand a new record though I haven't heard it, 137 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, do the Bus and Bus Part two? The 138 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: origonal was cool when it first came out. That should 139 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: have been left where it was at before. But now 140 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: that's no disrespect to Bust to Rhymes. I've supported everyone 141 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: last one of Busts of Rhymes albums. I'm just don't 142 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: like his new music, and I think I should have 143 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: a right to say that without offending nobody. I don't 144 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: think Buster would be mad if I said that, because 145 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: I love Bust to Rhymes. I think Bust the Rhymes 146 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest of all time to ever 147 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: do it. Extinction level Event two left it thought it 148 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: was a brilliant album, thought it fit where he was at. 149 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: But to see Buss and Bus trying to attempt to 150 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: make dance music all over again, it's just like, bro, 151 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: do your stuff, Bust and Bust mean, but he's like 152 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: dance music his whole career. Yeah, he has dog, but 153 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: it seemed like with this one man, he kind of 154 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: trying to chase something. 155 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: Maybe I haven't heard. 156 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: I could be and I could be wrong, But then again, 157 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: that's just my opinion, and that's no disrespect to the guy. 158 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, that's no disrespect the Bust 159 00:07:59,200 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: of Rhymes. 160 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: I truly love the ll Kool j Q Tip album 161 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 2: The Force. 162 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: I loved the two and I think the Bus and 163 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Bus like when Bus and Bus did Extinction level event. 164 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: I loved that. 165 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: See that's one of my favorite Bus to Rahyms albums 166 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: because he was doing well. It's true to him. And 167 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: I know Buss and Busses back on a major label now, 168 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: and I think Bus and Bus it may be a 169 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: thing where Bus and Busses used to have hit records. 170 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: Though, sure, and if you see it to a record company, 171 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: it would it would probably make sense for you to 172 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: try to make a hit record or make a good record. 173 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: So I mean, but Busts always took artistic gambles, you 174 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I'm sure sometimes he can 175 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: miss why left or my you know, wide right, But 176 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, I think I think there is 177 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: a space for a level of critigue even for the 178 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: gods of of of of you know, New York street 179 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: urban culture, you know, from an art level to be critigue, 180 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: same for anyone else like J Cole. Like even when 181 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: we talked about the J Cole record the poort, Antonio 182 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: was like, this is not about me critiguing his art 183 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: or his ability. This is me critiguing the approach what's 184 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 2: being said, you know what I mean. So you just 185 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 2: have to be okay, just like when people don't like 186 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: my music, you know what I'm saying, Like I'll put 187 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 2: out music and people won't like it, and that's just 188 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: the end of it. I'm not gonna fight him because 189 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: they don't like my music. But I mean people can 190 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: be a bit sensitive. Do I think bus is sensitive? 191 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: Knowing him and fellowshipping with him, Nah, you know, I mean, 192 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: he'll take that and hear what you're saying. And you know, 193 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: come back stronger and that would you. 194 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: Know what, Man, I really hope that's just my opinion. 195 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: That don't mean I'm not gonna support Bus and Bus. 196 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: That don't mean I'm not gonna keep lofting him for 197 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: what he does. This one misstep. This is probably the 198 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: first song Buss and Rhymes I've ever had in his 199 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: whole long story career that I didn't like. And I 200 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: try like she won't like. I listened to that record 201 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: about ten fifteen times. All righty, you know what? But 202 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: but I will say this while I'm talking, not to 203 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: get too much into a negative space. Man, That new 204 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: app Soul is off the hook? Yeah yeah, yeah, app. 205 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: So I think I've seen it on this show a 206 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: number of times. Probably my favorite rap road for ad TD. 207 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: You know, I've had a conversations with you. Soul is like, 208 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: Soul is a real rapper, and that it's not taking 209 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: nothing from nobody else, all them brothers over that dope, 210 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: but Soul. I've always thought that Soul was just on 211 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: another level lyrically. You know, Soul will take you someplace. 212 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: You know, No, Soul is amazing, no questions? 213 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: Apps was that guy man I got? 214 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: I got Trevvy to a record behind the scenes where 215 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: they shot a video and it's amazing. I expect nothing 216 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: less from Sould, you know what I mean. What I 217 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: really more expect any more than anything from Soul is 218 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: him to do delivers some records, like and I tell 219 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: him all the time, you know what I mean? Like 220 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 2: I tell over all the time, like it's time to, 221 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: you know, make some records. Like Casola is an underrated 222 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: record maker. If you heard Fuck Glasses alone, the album 223 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 2: that's on Spotify. Now, there's a song with me and 224 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 2: Jay Rock called Dollars makes sense. That's Apps so doing 225 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: the course, Like as knows how to make a record. 226 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: He just you know, got hell bent on showing everybody 227 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: they're not a better MC. But most people don't give 228 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: credence of this. But im singing at a mass level, 229 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: even lyricism at a mass level is still judged based 230 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: off of how popular your records are, like jay Z 231 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: can only be in the running, or Tupac can only 232 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: be in the running, or Biggie or Nahs because of 233 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: their biggest songs. That puts you on a radar of 234 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: all the audience. 235 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know somebody will even take this conversation 236 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: and take that as a slight to everybody else from 237 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: TDE because I said that appsold is my favorite rapper. 238 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: I love Jay Rock's music. It things. Jay Rock got 239 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: slaps out, you know, Ny. 240 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: You know sensitive and always try to clear it up. 241 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but listen to me though, Dog and Punch 242 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: is probably my second favorite rapper over there. Sure Punch 243 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: is hard. Sure, and this ain't me clean it up. 244 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, I'm so sick of the space 245 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: we in right now. Dog is extra. 246 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: Just stop honoring it. 247 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: It's extra. What's the nice word? Like I said about 248 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: the climate today is just zesty as hell? Dog? Well, 249 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: you don't. 250 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you only empowered it when you be a 251 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: part of it. That's why I don't really hold my 252 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: opinion back. I mean, I'm not. 253 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: Hold my opinion up. I'm gonna tell you this, and 254 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: I want to apologize for the fans, and I don't 255 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: want nobody to take this no kind of a way. 256 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: Our last week's episode was whack. It was trash. Yeah, 257 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: I told you that. Afterout, after we got finished recording, 258 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: I said, Dog, I did not like this episode. Dog, 259 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: we can't just come in and just breathe through the 260 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: show without saying what we mean. 261 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: Bro, Well, you gotta listen to people, right, and then 262 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: you gotta respond appropriately when they speaking to you. Yeah, 263 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: And I think that's the beginning. I think that's the start. 264 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: Like I don't. 265 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: I don't want it to be tabloid journalism, you know 266 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: what I mean, or tabloid podcasting versus two really knowledgeable people, 267 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: one like I said, the first ballot Hall of Famer 268 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: and another you know, executive of of the of the genre, 269 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: you know, being honest about their opinion. Especially somebody like 270 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,599 Speaker 2: A eight has all the credentials in the world to 271 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: judge music. I mean, he is a true professional or 272 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: a true legend, a true scholar at the highest level, 273 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So there's nothing that I 274 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: don't know why he wouldn't be Like he can offer 275 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: critique that can help shape an artists into becoming a 276 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player. 277 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: But what he can't worry about, though, Bro, he can't 278 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: worry about people getting upset. 279 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: Bro, I don't know why to hell, A will worry 280 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: about people getting upset. He don't function with everybody, you 281 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It ain't like he in the 282 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: mix with everybody, So you know, if he thinks, I 283 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 2: think it's right for Ad to be able to say 284 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: say to somebody, hey, you know what you need to 285 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: work on that. Look, it's it's one thing, big Bro, 286 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: for people to just oh you whacking, you suck and 287 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: you are. 288 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we ain't gonna never disrespect nobody. That's not what 289 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. See, I'm like, whatever do with the 290 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: other cats, do this down the road or whatever? Like 291 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: we not like us, That's what I'm saying. We never 292 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: go do the tabloid stuff. You feel what I'm saying. 293 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: We're not a gossip Kyle, and that's not what we 294 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: go do. 295 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: But as even as gangster rap, you know, as gangster rap. 296 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: You know, you two guys iss gangster rap like professionals 297 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: you know of over thirty years. You it's it's incumbent. 298 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: You know what I mean that you be transparent with 299 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: with your critique for moves made by artists and music 300 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: that they. 301 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: Released hundred percent. You know, but I wish we could 302 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: play music on here man. That new appisode is hard 303 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: Dog Squeeze first too. You know what I was together, 304 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking about too, Bro, I 305 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: was thinking about all this stuff that's going down with 306 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: with p Diddy right now, right sure with Ditty, and 307 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't and I ain't even go getting all. I 308 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: was just thinking about it. You got one hundred and 309 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: twenty people following the lawsuit, Bro, and you have been 310 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: with a one eight hundred number now where people can 311 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: call in. How many of these lawsuits you think is frivolous? 312 00:15:50,280 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: How did you police that, bron? Listen, everybody who functioned 313 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: with Puff passed nineteen ninety four knew who Puff was, 314 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: So again, like, you can't convince me that people were this. 315 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: Like I saw an interview with a local West Coast 316 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: act as a female singer. Her name is Tania. She 317 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: was doing a sit down where she was talking about 318 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: she been to a Puff party and she didn't do nothing. 319 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: But to some degree I think she was like a 320 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: stripper or maybe like I don't know, I don't want 321 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: to call nobody no sex worker, because even though that 322 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: phrase is really nice, I mean like, I don't know, 323 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to call somebody that they not. 324 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: But I'm saying that she didn't do nothing, Like if 325 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: nobody went to a puff party, not understanding. The goal 326 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: is to get high, laid, or drunk, I mean, or 327 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: all the above, with the goal of achieving something else 328 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: that they desire. Maybe is success in the music business, 329 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: maybe it's money. Everybody know what they was going for. 330 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: You remember when we did the episode we had the 331 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: giants up there and we was just up there all 332 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: kicking it. And I told you all, I went to 333 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: a party where they had the pink stuff on the 334 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: like the pink powder on the trades and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, 335 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: that was a tough party. Dog, It just wasn't And 336 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: I didn't, to be honest with you, Dog, I thought 337 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: it was crazy. And I told I talked about this 338 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: party a couple of times right on the show, numerous times. Right, 339 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: I think it was what it was. It wasn't no 340 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: different than the thirty or forty other Hollywood parties I 341 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: went to. That's what people go there for it or 342 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: they go to get faded, they go to get us 343 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: some brawls, they go to listen to music, they go 344 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: to really be hedonistic. 345 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what they do. 346 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, heatonistic is very much, you know, a much 347 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: more harsher term of being free, you know, to do 348 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: anything without judgment, you know, outside of the man above 349 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: you I mean, but outside of the entity above. But yes, 350 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: it's standard. It's people that I can name who have 351 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: puff parties. But I could never say it because the 352 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: public is so extra sensitive because that they acted like 353 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: they want to be judgmental, like their whole goal in 354 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: life wasn't to go to a puff party. 355 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't said that I was at a at 356 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: the puff party, but it didn't matter whose party it was, 357 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: because yeah, it was like it was going down dog, 358 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: but it wasn't no different. It wasn't nothing I hadn't 359 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: seen before. 360 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it. It was crazy. I never seen 361 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: it at the Puff party, but I've seen it at 362 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: other celebrity parties. But again, like that ain't like I've 363 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 2: seen that in the hood, like you know what I mean. 364 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: I've seen all of this stuff and how people getting 365 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: down and enjoying theirself and if it ain't for me, 366 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: I just don't get down, That's all. 367 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: I think. It was the thing, the thing that tripped 368 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: me out most about that night. I kept talking about 369 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: it's the pink. I didn't know if it was cocaine. 370 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was I just know they 371 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: had this pink on the trade, and I thought it 372 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: was the craziest thing ever. Right, I was like, what 373 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: is that? You feel me? Yeah, I'm not trying it, 374 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: whatever it is is, I'm not sniffing or snort nothing. 375 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: That's not my thing. 376 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: I think you ever tried cocaine, you know what? 377 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: I tried cocaine once by accident, dog, and it. 378 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: Was you can't try cocaine. Try no, no, not like 379 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: a primo, I mean. 380 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, Yeah. I never sniffed cocaine before. Never Never 381 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: How close did you get to it? Never had to, 382 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: never had the desire to do so. Bro, I saw 383 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: that stuff tear too many lives up. Oh yeah, I 384 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: was always terrified of cocaine. 385 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: Bro, who is the cold Who is the craziest person 386 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: that you were surprised at all? Well, it's kind of illegal, 387 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: so that might be kind of telling it, ain't it is? 388 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: That would be you know what, Dog, it's a lot 389 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: of people to snort though. 390 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 391 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: And I think it's more open now. I think these 392 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: kids today is more open about what they do. You know, 393 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: back then, I think people was more ashamedful doing cocaine. 394 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: I know, three six moth people was always open about 395 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: you know when they was the first rap group open 396 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: with talking about their cocaine usage. You know, I was 397 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: always terrified of cocaine. I'll tell you about my about 398 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: my story. I got a cousin back home in Ohio, right. 399 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 2: Much love to Ohio. 400 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, this dude has always been fast, right, And when 401 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: I say fast, he was just that's a whole different 402 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: level just doing level reference for a man. Yeah, not fast, 403 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: like when I say that brought me and this dude 404 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: was just like when we was fifteen. This dude was 405 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: drinking Hennessy. 406 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's crazy afteen, you know what I'm saying, 407 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: Like you talked about back in eighty five, him drink 408 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: he had a short dog. 409 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was drinking Hennessy dog he had, you know, 410 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: he was drinking him, That's what he was doing. But 411 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: he was drinking Hennessy. He was drinking gin. He was 412 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: like always a step ahead. This dude had his own 413 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: apartment though. You feel what I'm saying. 414 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: This is a cousin of mine right at fifteen. 415 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, dog at fifteen, he's a year I was fifteen, 416 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: he was sixteen. I would say he was sixteen, but wow, 417 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: so we at his crib chilling one night. Man, I 418 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: never will forget. We was listening to Chud Rocks new album. 419 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: You told me about this story. 420 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: Listening to Chure Rocks the album. So they passed and 421 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: weed around and I was. 422 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: And you thinking you've grown and cool. 423 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: Exactly, I'm just trying to be cool beat around. And 424 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: the thing is, I didn't even know how to hit weeds. 425 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: I didn't even know how to hit the weed back. 426 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: Once or twice. 427 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: I hit the weed dog and I smoked, and it 428 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: never did nothing to me because weed at that time, 429 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I was inhaling it right or something. 430 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to smoke right. So I smoked 431 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: the weed dog, and I'm headed back home. And it's 432 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: about like a twenty minute drive where you've been in 433 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: where my pops lived before. Right, I'm driving back to 434 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland at night. So I got like a thirty forty 435 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: minute drive, right, I give them the freeway dog, and 436 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: my whole face started feeling them, like to the point 437 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: I thought something was wrong with me. Dog Like. First 438 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: thing that happened is my heart started beating fast. 439 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: Like. 440 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: When you pulled the jay you to hear the crackle. 441 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: Bro, Well, I didn't know what going on. Like I said, 442 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: I was cream. I didn't know what it was. 443 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: Dog. 444 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: You went on and all I know, g is I 445 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: was up for two days. Dog. I could not go 446 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: to sleep. You know what it felt like, bro, It 447 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: felt like I drunk like five six cups of coffee. 448 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't go to sleep. But I was scared. Man, 449 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: I was very, very scared, and I told my pops 450 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: about it. I always was able to share stuff with 451 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: my dad. Man I told him about He said, Son, 452 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: you gotta be real careful about doing what you do. 453 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying about who you're doing certain 454 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: things with. And that was my thing right there. From 455 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: that time on, Dog, I never just hit nobody else's weed. 456 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: That's that you feel me. 457 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: They got you so so Hector. Hector got you like 458 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: smoking Friday. 459 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 460 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: You was in a pigeon coop at home. 461 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I was in the pigeon coop. I 462 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: just couldn't go to sleep. And what was crazy about it, 463 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: I was I was going to my mama's house. And 464 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: my mama is very much one of the type of people, 465 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: so I was nervous that my mom knew I was hired. 466 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: Something was wrong with me. So I stayed outside, dog 467 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: and I took a shower. Man. I tried to go 468 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: to sleep and couldn't go to sleep. Dog, I couldn't 469 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: go to sleep. That was the first time I tried. 470 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: Like. 471 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: That was the first and only time I tried cocaine. 472 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: I was always scared of it because I felt like 473 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: if that did that too, that little bit of cocaine 474 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: did that to me. There was in that weed. Dog. 475 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: I was always like, what would powder do to it? Motherfucker? 476 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: You feel me? I just never had no interest in 477 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: doing that. Man, I never had no interest. I'm gonna 478 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: tell you the one thing I always was. I don't know, bro. 479 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: I always liked psychedelics. Like I took acid before. 480 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: That's fine, that's a rock a well. You you you 481 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: got a little rock spirit, you know. I mean it's 482 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: a little Jimmy Hendrix somewhere. And you you you really lean, 483 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: you lean, You got a rock lane about yourself. 484 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I like shrooms, man, Shrooms is the ship 485 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: to me. 486 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 2: How do you take his acid? 487 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: The one you put on your tongue, Yeah, you took 488 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 1: put a tab on your tongue. But I'm gonna tell 489 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: you the first time I tried acid, though, you get 490 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: a stamp, it's like a stamp that you're getting. They 491 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 1: got like different colors on back in the Ohio, right, 492 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: I hung around some white boys, right, Yeah, so he 493 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: gave me like a whole stamp before and what I 494 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: didn't know, I took like half the stamp. Right, So 495 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: when I took half the stamp, it takes. 496 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: You licked the stamp or you put the stamp and 497 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: it dissolved in your mouth. 498 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you put the stamp like in your tongue, like 499 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: you lick. 500 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: The You just lick it and then you just get 501 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: rid of it, like you hold it on. 502 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: There for a minute, like then you know, when the 503 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: term started feeling paper, you can take it out. 504 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: Is PCP considered a psychedelic d. 505 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't never mess with no PCP though, though. 506 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: But so when I tried that, man, I took like 507 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: a half a stamp, right. And I remember, man, I 508 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: was hanging out with some white dudes and they were 509 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: listening to Deep Purple, right this song Purple Strangers, right, 510 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: yea perfect Stranger. They had this song rock song called 511 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: perfect strangers. I just love rock and roll music, right, 512 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: So we just kicking it, man, And they had all 513 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: of these like led Zeppelin posters on their wall, and 514 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: it started looking like the wall was like water for 515 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: a minute. Man, it was like the whole wall was 516 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: like wavy, right. And so I'm looking at the wall, 517 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: tripping man. And I walk home, dog, and I'm just 518 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: like really tripping, dog because it's like I felt like 519 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: I was walking under water. I get back to my crib, man, 520 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: I get back to my crib, and I'm watching TV. 521 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: Gee when I tell you that, you know how TV 522 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: goes off? Man? And like those what are they called 523 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: those like commercials, infomercials, you know what I'm saying informercials. 524 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: The lady on the infomercial was talking to. 525 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: Me, bro Oh no no, So a PCP is in 526 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: a hallucinogenic, so I think, and a hallucinogenic is different 527 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: than a psychedelic. Go ahead, I'm listening. 528 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: The lady on the The lady on the infomercial was 529 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: talking to me, like really talking to me. 530 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: Bro. 531 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: Okay, remind me of Harold and Kumar go to White Cast. 532 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: That's something that will happen right there. That's that drug 533 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: that a Doogie Houser was taken and Harold and Kumar 534 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: goes to Whitecastle. A psychedelic is a type of hallucinogen 535 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: that produces a non ordinary mental state or trip that's 536 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: often accompanied by a feeling of expanded consciousness. The term 537 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: psychedelic is sometimes used more broadly to include other types 538 00:26:53,040 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: of hallucinogens, such as salvia and MDMA. So I guess 539 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: it is like that. 540 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I ain't ever messed with a PCP. 541 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: Tho, dog. 542 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: Huh you got homies that Have you ever see somebody 543 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: You ever see somebody hit a stick? 544 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, Yeah, it's a scary thing, man. 545 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: Man, Jayo Felony, if I ever thought about trying PCP, 546 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 2: Jo Felony would be the rapper that would if a 547 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: rapper could ever influence me to do something, Jayo Felony. 548 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: Jao Fellon used to have the best songs about smoking. 549 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, sharm stick is a classic. You know what though, Man, Definitely, 550 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: I think when you try certain drugs, man, you want 551 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: to be around somebody because you can trip out, dog 552 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: like like like even somebody smoke into something as simple 553 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: as weed for the first time. Dog, you want to 554 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: be around somebody that's cool. I never thought it was 555 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: cool to like trick somebody. Some people like to get 556 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: people so stone dog that they start tripping out. That 557 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: ain't a cool feeling dog being so stone that you 558 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: were n't comfortable. Bro, it's not cool. Bro. I remember 559 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: one time, man, I ate some edibles. Right, Yeah, we 560 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: was over. We was over some parents house, this one 561 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: this one my son was playing football at bosco. Right, 562 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: so we over this one couple sauce. Man, we kicking it, right, 563 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: we barbecuing and stuff. So they got some candy in 564 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: the thing, and you know I love sweets, right, so 565 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm eating these gummy worms, right. They tasted so good, 566 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: and so I'm just like, I don't like, probably ate 567 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: like twenty of these gummies right next thing, you know, man, 568 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm feeling so high. Like first the high hit me 569 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: and I'm feeling cool, but then it just hit me 570 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: to where the point it wasn't cool. It felt like 571 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: everybody in the party was looking at me, man, like 572 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: they was talking to me. And I was just like, oh, 573 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm so high. I hope I don't say nothing stupid. 574 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: I should auction off my alcohol virginity. 575 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: Pause your Alco. You know what, Bro, I don't like 576 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: to see you try to smoke weed one time. I 577 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: don't know. 578 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: Off my alcohol virginity. 579 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: Bro. 580 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: Like like once we make this new run on the 581 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: album and were finnah get real hot, like we finna 582 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: get really name buzzing, because like we already lighting the 583 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: fire right now and everybody's starting to talk about us, 584 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: and we dropped that street single. It's gonna really do 585 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: a lot. We should make all of the spirit companies 586 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: bid on what alcohol I drink first. 587 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: That would be crazy man. You know what, though, Man, No, 588 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: I would I think if you go try something first, 589 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: maybe a drink is the best thing. I would probably 590 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: say a shot of Hennessy or something like that. 591 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: Whoever pay, you gotta pay. 592 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: Whoever pay. 593 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: I had to eat the homies up at Schefflin to 594 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: see because Schaefflin might be the one to pay for that. Dog, 595 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: I know, I would like to see you. That would 596 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: be crazy, man. But you know what, at the same Tope, 597 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: and I always thought it was dope that you never 598 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: had a drink or never smoke nothing. Dog, that's not 599 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: my wife. My wife has never drunk anything and smoked 600 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: anything in her life. 601 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: I never drank a cup of coffee. 602 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You might take something dollar like. 603 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't probably want to see you smoking no weed, dog, 604 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: because if we did it, it had to be some 605 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: good old fashioned homegrowing something that I knew just wouldn't 606 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: tear you up, you know, because I could see you 607 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: really losing your mind. Dog, you could probably trip off. 608 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody a weed company. Maybe Burner could bribe me. 609 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: Maybe Burner could let's go acrost some real thousands for 610 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: me to puff some cookies. But I d smoke ten 611 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: thousand dollars from Burner. I don't know. That's that ain't enough. 612 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 613 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: How about twenty five. 614 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe twenty five, I might smoke a jay, you. 615 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: Know what, And I would tell them, don't give you 616 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: no end, to give you a nice sativa because I 617 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: don't know you might trip off on sativa because sativa 618 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: makes you think a lot. 619 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: It might work for me. I used to watch all 620 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: my old the Homies pluck. Favorite thing is to tell me, man, 621 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: I'm telling you hit this weed. Your lyrics would be tighter. 622 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: Your lyrics already tight, but they'd be way tighter. That's 623 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: his favorite line, you. 624 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: Know what the thing is? The thing is, bro, all 625 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: of that stuff should be a choice. Man, I've never 626 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: been really like, I was so mad at my cousin 627 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: man for trying that because you think about it, even 628 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: though it was a premium, I probably could have died. Bro. 629 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: What if I'd had a heart attack or something. M h, 630 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying? Like, think about lim Bias. 631 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: Remember when lim Bias got drafted. Though He's tried a 632 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: drug for his first time and died. Bro, that has 633 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: to be a choice, dog, Like, trying the drugs should 634 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: be a choice, Bro. It shouldn't be nothing somebody fooling 635 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: somebody into doing it, or somebody slipping something somebody's drink. 636 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: That's real whack right there. I think people should go 637 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: to jail for that. 638 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you are legally supposed to go 639 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: to jail for that. But that is a bit devious. 640 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: That is a devious because you don't know how somebody 641 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: gon react like people think it's funny or let's put 642 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: some because especially with THC now like you can really 643 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: you can give somebody a soldier that's like a THAC 644 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: dog and they could trip out. You feel what I 645 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: mean they could really trip out a run in the 646 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: middle of street, get hit by a car or something, 647 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, or getting their car and crash on the 648 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: way home. That's not cool, man, Getting high, Getting high, 649 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: getting on drugs could be a choice, especially like when 650 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: you start. It took me a while she to really 651 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: know how to take shrooms and stuff like that. And 652 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: the thing is, I've never been an everyday person like 653 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: me when I smoke weed in phases like I may 654 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: smoke weed for a couple of weeks and then not 655 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: smoking nothing for the next year. You feel me all long? 656 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: Is it something that you could deal with and negotiate 657 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: it works out well. 658 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: I think you need to be in a certain place. 659 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: I definitely think, man, if you ain't got your finances 660 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: where you wanted to be, I think you ain't got 661 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: no time to be sitting on smoking weed all day. 662 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: That's just me, though. 663 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a better question. 664 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 1: Right there, they just pull it up in there. 665 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 2: Hold on, let me ask you a better question. It 666 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: is a better question for you. H here's a better 667 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: question for you. If you had to pick a year. 668 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: Wash up? Og you all right? You hold up? 669 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: You trying to get together? So let me ask you 670 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: a question, a big growth show. 671 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: If one two one two? Can you hear me? I 672 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: can't hear ship? 673 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: We can here, can you? Gus? Okay? 674 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: So look, you to pick a year if you could, 675 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: if you could pick a year that the sensitivity level 676 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: could go back to, what year would it be? Where 677 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: you was like, this is where this is the furthest 678 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, society, this is the most 679 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: sensitive society should be. It'd be nineteen. 680 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: Eighty five or ninety. 681 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: Oh sality wasn't that sensitive at all? Back in? 682 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: Well, hold on, gee, let me see if I get age. 683 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, I can hear him? Good, hold on, 684 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: let me let me call him real quick, walking through 685 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: this real quick. Let me go walking through this real quick. 686 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me walking through this real quick. Yeah, 687 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: g eighty five or ninety Yeah, you're on a computer. 688 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: Go on your you're in front, because we can hear you. Good, 689 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: we was hearing you. Perfect. Go go in the computer 690 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: and uh go to your go to your settings, go 691 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: to settings, or you can even jump on your phone 692 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: if you want to want to send a link to 693 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: your phone. Yeah, audio settings and go to hold on 694 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 1: a second, y'all beer will. It's real quick. Were getting 695 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: homeie eight straight, So we can go in there. 696 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: And go in the audio audio all of this the 697 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: whole time on your part is that what you do? 698 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna cut it off. I'ma cut this part up. 699 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: So when you go to speaker, right, you see what 700 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: speaker is at? What do we say on that? 701 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 2: Just in case he doesn't cut it out, I've been 702 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 2: trying to convince him click speaker that Gangster rap should 703 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: be like by Gangster Chronicles and he should do a 704 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 2: much better job of taking y'all through all of the 705 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 2: stuff him and eight saw from when they were teenagers 706 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: and coming into the game. That's my goal, that would be. 707 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 3: Can hear for sure? All right? 708 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: Do you hold up? 709 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm maintaining my nigga ship. 710 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: You had him in there. I was telling eight man, 711 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: you can't help if you sick. 712 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: Dog. 713 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask you this, dog, Now you hear 714 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: this perfect? What year would you say everything was least 715 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: sensitive like eighty five or ninety As far as what 716 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: like people just not being sensitive, like the way you 717 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: could pretty much say what you want to and wou 718 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: nobody trip uh shit. 719 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: I mean as far as a lot of shit today. 720 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 3: I mean we are basically we just had censorship when 721 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 3: it came to our music. As far as the radio. 722 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: Niggas didn't get you know, up up up in an 723 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: uproar over over certain shit. You could say certain things 724 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 3: about certain motherfuckers and it wouldn't be I guess, out 725 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 3: of line so to speak. You get me, And I 726 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 3: can remember that back when I first started rapping, you know, 727 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: the mid eighties, you know, the early nineties. Uh, I 728 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 3: don't know when niggas got so sensitive over shit, you know, 729 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 3: you know what I was listening to today. I guess 730 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 3: it comes with the you know, the changing of the 731 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 3: times and the generation of what niggas feel, you know, 732 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: because people is niggas is sensitive today you can't really 733 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 3: say too much about and you know, I'm always stressing 734 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 3: you know what you can't say about certain motherfuckers because. 735 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: You know they get angry. Yeah, you know what, I 736 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: wonder what happened? Uh yeah, you're pop back, but you 737 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: ate you're still there. Yeah, I'm here, OK, sure, Yeah 738 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: we can hear you. His things went up. But the 739 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: thing is this, right, I would listening to DM next 740 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: today where the hood at, and it was on you know, 741 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: listening to Serious XM. He talked about he had a 742 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: lot of derogatory stuff to saying that that song couldn't 743 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: have came out today, Bro. 744 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: It could come out, not what he was saying on 745 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: that he'd got canceled. 746 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: You can't get can't seeing missing with a man, And 747 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: he was talking about all that he had, all the 748 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: buzzwords you can't say, you. 749 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 2: Can't get you can't get canceled. That's not a real thing. 750 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 2: You can only get canceled if they financing your campaign, 751 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: like what happened to the baby Like, they only can 752 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: cancel you if they financing your campaign. So if you 753 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: getting corporate money, that's how they controlling everybody. They controlling 754 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: everybody because the corporation's pay them. 755 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, we will definitely get canceled. 756 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: Them talking about because you you lost all your sponsorships 757 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: the first show you ever had. 758 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 2: That's because that's how it's gonna go. That's glass is 759 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: gonna live. That's just the outlaw. That's just how it 760 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 2: came up. I have made a living and been fine 761 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: just being authentic this whole time. And if it take 762 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 2: me a little longer to get where I'm trying to go. 763 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: I got time. I just got sixty pounds with the 764 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 2: intentions of making sure I'm around to get everything I 765 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: got coming to me. So I intend to get every 766 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 2: dime that this game owed me. Let me ask you 767 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: a question, do you think married with children? Is that 768 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: too far? Because I think married with Children probably couldn't 769 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 2: come out today. 770 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 3: Hell no, nigga, that's my that was that's one of 771 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: my I'll watched that ship faithfully, right yeah, right now, 772 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 3: I watched that ship faithfully, nigga. I got about I 773 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 3: got probably about one hundred episodes and ship of married 774 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 3: with Children. Uh, it's raunchy, you get me. Uh, But 775 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 3: like you said, al they say ship that you know 776 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 3: definitely wouldn't go down today, you get me. They talk about, 777 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 3: you know, the other side, they talk about all kinds 778 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 3: of men. 779 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they going crazy girls they got. 780 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: I tell you. The show back in the day that 781 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: used to really get off with doing stuff was anything 782 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: that Norman Lear made, like Archie Bunker, Jeffersons, you know 783 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: all of them, dog even saying for the sun you 784 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: can say what you want to. They would call people, 785 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, the white folks out their name. I noticed 786 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: they would never say that. They wouldn't never call nobody 787 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: a nigga. They wouldn't go that far. 788 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 3: But it was still you know, those shows were meant 789 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 3: to push the line, you know, especially shit like Married 790 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 3: with Children. It was a show that was to push 791 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 3: the line. And what was good about it. It wasn't 792 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 3: like it wasn't just you know, the white people just 793 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 3: always degrading or talking about the black people or whatever. Whatever. 794 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: They with themselves and ship and they dealt with their 795 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 3: own poverty and being poor and living in fuck the 796 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 3: situations and whatever and their reality, and they wasn't afraid 797 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 3: to poke fun at themselves. That's what the whole point 798 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 3: about it was. 799 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish you could go back to that era, man, Yeah, gee, 800 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: I would say about from maybe nineteen seventy man to 801 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: probably nineteen ninety, after ninety, after the two thousands, everything 802 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: got sought. 803 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: You don't think everything hip hop is still You don't 804 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 2: think hip hop is still edgy? 805 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: Hell no, no, A few people live, but no, you 806 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: people too afraid of losing stuff, man, you know, And 807 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that, man. You know, if you 808 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: would do, like if you saw all the stuff. But 809 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: the baby lost he was cracking dog. I don't know 810 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: if he would recover from that. 811 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 2: Bro Yeah, but the baby only lost it because they 812 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 2: gave it to him. So if somebody, like if Nike 813 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 2: paid me two million dollars and then I go on 814 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 2: this reebox spur talk about reebok, I may lose this 815 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 2: two million dollars. So again, they could only cancel if 816 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 2: they make you. Right, that's it. You know what I'm saying. 817 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 2: We don't. We don't gotta play ball. I mean just 818 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 2: you just might lose what was it, Pepsi or coke? 819 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: Which one was it? You might lose coke and you 820 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: might lose Budwiser, which is crazy that Budwiser could judge me. 821 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: That's just like crazy, y'all sell beer to hell? You 822 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: judging me? Fo, You know what I'm saying, But I 823 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: don't mind. 824 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 3: Man. 825 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 2: Look, I watched a lot of people that came up 826 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 2: in the same lifestyle as me. Blazed doors. I watched 827 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 2: eight blazed doors, I watch Q blazed doors, I watch 828 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 2: dog blazed doors, everybody blazing doors. For me to not 829 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 2: have to be somebody I'm not, and I'll be damn 830 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 2: ice tea blazed doors, and I'll be damn if I 831 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 2: sell it out tone Low, I'll be damn if I 832 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: sell it out to try to get something sooner than 833 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it. Like I love how ice tea. 834 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 2: You know when you watch SVU, it don't say Tracy Morrow, 835 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 2: say I tea. I love that he could cut some 836 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 2: motherfucker out on his Twitter and be himself. And you 837 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 2: know you don't hear Dick Wolf and them fin a 838 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 2: pull a rug for up under his deal or you 839 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 2: still see him doing deals with uh, what's the chicken 840 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: place that the chicken strips can't raising canes with the 841 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 2: iced tea? And he's in the commercial, and he's in 842 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 2: the he's in the warranty commercials for the cars. Because 843 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: these people are blazing the trail that shows the world 844 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: has an affinity for people that make this version of 845 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 2: reality rap that we do. So I just watch everybody 846 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 2: blaze the trail, and I think long as each of 847 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 2: us individually don't sell out and really just do what 848 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: we do and wait till it's coming, it'll happen. The 849 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 2: only issue is when you want it to happen sooner. Well, 850 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: guess what they might want a little booty for that, 851 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 2: you might have to go to a puff party. 852 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: You know what. I had this conversation with eight today. 853 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: What I was telling glasses Ate before you came on, right, 854 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: I was telling him man that I wish that we 855 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,800 Speaker 1: can do the show like we do the conversations that 856 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: we have offline, right, and wouldn't nobody because I just 857 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: think I think if we had the conversations we'd really 858 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: be having. Man, I think we'd be the number one 859 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: show in the world dog because we don't be necessarily 860 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: dissing nobody, but we just be really telling the truth. 861 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: Not that we come on here and lie, but I 862 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: think we be giving a lot of people passed. Like 863 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: I just told them, I love I'm a big Bust 864 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: of Rhymes fan. I think I said that before Eight. 865 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: I don't like that new single he came out with. 866 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't like it. I just don't. I'm not gonna 867 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: slip here and say it's trash, but I don't like it. 868 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: But that's no knock against Bust the Rhymes. I love 869 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: Bust the Rhymes as a person. I think his music. 870 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: I think he done gave us some incredible music. I 871 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: just don't like this particular song. That don't mean I 872 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: don't like Bust to Bus, And I just think it's 873 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: messed up that we don't got to the place man 874 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: where really you can't really. 875 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 2: Say nothing nobody, But why can't you? You can? You 876 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 2: just gotta be okay with if Bust the Bus don't 877 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 2: like you saying this song ain't good. 878 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 3: Exactly. 879 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 2: So if you, if you, yeah, if you, if you, 880 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 2: if you worry about Bust the Ron's feelings, you know 881 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: what I mean, you better not say what you're saying. 882 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: But again, if you want anybody to respect you as 883 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 2: a man and have your opinion, you're gonna rub some 884 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 2: You're gonna rub some people the wrong way. That just 885 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: come with the territory that that's that's part of the 886 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 2: stuff ad them had to go through and and forging 887 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 2: this path for what though white folks start calling against 888 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: the rap, I mean, they was telling exactly how it was. 889 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 2: They wasn't the media darlings. None of them dudes that 890 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 2: came out was. 891 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: The media darlings. 892 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They had it hard and tough. 893 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 2: They wasn't getting all opportunities, they wasn't getting placed in 894 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: and uh, what's the lead the weapon films. You know 895 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, They wasn't the songs wasn't getting used there. 896 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. They if you think about it, 897 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 2: that whole genre that they created, gave us films named 898 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 2: after the genre. You know what I mean, whether it's 899 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 2: a song like Boys in the Hood or you know, 900 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 2: I mean, that's how you get the film Minister Society 901 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: is because of the success of what the white folks 902 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 2: coin gangster rep So you know, fortune favors the brave. 903 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 2: You know, if you won't say what you want to say, 904 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 2: just be okay with and somebody might want to walk 905 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 2: up and kick your ass because they feelish hurt. 906 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: Man. You know what, I really hope somebody, man. I 907 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: think people sometimes think its ain't no cripple, no blood. 908 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,240 Speaker 1: I wish somebody would somebody get hurt, real bad dog. 909 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: Before you get the threatening people. That's not what I'm saying, man. 910 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 3: I try to tell That's what I was saying the 911 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 3: other day when we was talking, like some niggas just 912 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 3: gonna be butt hert how you try to word it. 913 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, some niggas gonna 914 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 3: be butt her. Some niggas can't take criticism or or 915 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 3: you know, as opposed to it coming from someone who's 916 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 3: not of their peers. You feel me, Like you said, Nigga, 917 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't have anything personal with you, but 918 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 3: as far as your work and whatever, blah blah blah, 919 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 3: my opinion might be, you know, different than what somebody 920 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 3: might be blowing smoke up your ass, you know, and 921 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 3: that might intend, like you said, Nigga might want to 922 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 3: step to you and be like, Nigga, what you mean? 923 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 3: What you mean? Like, Nigga's just my opinion, Like, I 924 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 3: don't have anything personal, but just like I told you, 925 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 3: some niggas, you're gonna have to expect that approach because 926 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 3: they're sensitive. 927 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a whole lot of sensitive people nowadays, man, 928 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: because anything used to be like that before. Though you 929 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 1: tell somebody they stuff was, Man, this ain't good. You 930 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: just have to accept it. Yeah, I heard. 931 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 2: I heard the writers had it pretty bad. I heard 932 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 2: stories of Soaring and them telling me that people did 933 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 2: approach them, like what's up with this? 934 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I've never you know, regardless of what I felt, 935 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: if I didn't get a good write up in the magazine, 936 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 3: if I expected you know, four mics and they gave 937 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 3: me three or three and a half for you know, 938 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 3: I've always accepted criticism. You know, everybody not gonna like everything, 939 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 3: and I've accepted that. Oh this song was hard, but 940 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 3: I didn't like this one, man, I don't. I didn't 941 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 3: like it. That's your opinion. I'm not gonna get offended 942 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 3: because you're not gonna like everything I do. That's that's 943 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 3: just that just comes with being a professional artist to me, 944 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 3: And that's with anything, nigga. If I was build the 945 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 3: low Riders and shit, some niggas ain't gonna like one 946 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 3: of my bills. Some niggas ain't gonna like one of 947 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 3: my paint jobs or one of my setups. You get me. 948 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 3: It's just no every and niggas have the right to 949 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 3: do that. Now, how you accept that? And how a 950 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 3: nigga come at me telling me about my shit? You know, 951 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 3: it's a difference of opinion. Nigga ain't gonna just walk 952 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 3: up and be like, Nigga, your setup was fucked up, 953 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 3: you're set up with this? Or you now now you 954 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 3: might you know, you might warn a slap or two 955 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 3: or or confrontation as opposed to hey man, you know, hey, 956 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 3: you the one that hooked up the so and so. Yeah, man, 957 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 3: yeah shit, I usually do my shit like this, or 958 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 3: I've seen some shit like this. Maybe next time you 959 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 3: should do this or do this. I'm a might. I 960 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 3: might take your opinion of what you're telling me and 961 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 3: I might try it. You know, it just all the 962 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 3: way you got to come at a motherfucker. I guess 963 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 3: Oh gee, you gotta put eight in the one ten 964 00:49:59,640 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 3: of them? 965 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,439 Speaker 2: Yuh for sure. 966 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: You know Last is doing this whole project eight called 967 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: it's called one ten. It's like a supergroup. So it's 968 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: called Custom Culture. It's about car culture. It's all. Every 969 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: song is about, like low Ride, you feel me. 970 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 2: It's just it's just if the Beach Boys was crips, 971 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 2: this is what they like. 972 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, that's cracking. 973 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: So let me ask you all this. Let me see 974 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: if either one of y'all, what album that y'all came 975 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: out that got hyped up? Man, it just was super 976 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: that was overrated to y'all. You think you Madic was 977 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: super overrated? 978 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you Madic wasn't made for me. 979 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 2: So when I heard it, or even when I listen 980 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,720 Speaker 2: to it now, I find myself listening to it thirty 981 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 2: times to figure out. I still ain't figured out quite 982 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,919 Speaker 2: what you know, all the homey from New York here 983 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 2: in Phield, I still have no idea. D I still 984 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 2: don't get it. Like every time they framed the narrative, 985 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,439 Speaker 2: it be a bunch of stuff that don't quite make sense. 986 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 2: But again that's the thing about hip hop, you know 987 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 2: what I mean, Culturally it may don't have to make 988 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 2: sense to me. I'm not from New York. I don't 989 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: get it. I think it's cool, Like I like Life 990 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 2: is Good as Life is Good is a way better album. Uh, 991 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 2: what's the other joint? The follow up joint? What's the 992 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 2: follow up to? That came out ninety six? 993 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:39,479 Speaker 1: That m if I with the world. 994 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 2: That was that's the second album? 995 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 3: Was that? 996 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: What was that? 997 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:44,320 Speaker 3: No? 998 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 2: No, that's not ESCO and that ain't that's that's crazy. 999 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 2: I listen. 1000 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: I like that. 1001 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 2: I like still Madic, I love still Madic, Still mad 1002 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 2: to me. The second album that had the lauryn Hill 1003 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: joint on there that they was it was yeah that 1004 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 2: they got from Curtis Blow. Life is Good. It's my 1005 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 2: favorite NAS album. I don't know what them dudes here 1006 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 2: when they hear Illmatic, but they feel the same way 1007 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 2: when I listen to dub C the shadiest one. They 1008 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 2: don't have no idea how I hear it. To them. 1009 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, this is cool. People that was coming 1010 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 2: up into their teenage years. Like that came out when 1011 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,359 Speaker 2: I was finna be eighteen. You know what I'm saying 1012 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 2: that I had just got my low Rider. I am 1013 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 2: living with this man talking about in records. You know 1014 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, This is crazy, this is amazing. So again, 1015 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 2: that's the thing about hip hop, the representation you get 1016 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 2: from it. But hell Matic would be that record that 1017 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 2: I heard all the gas over And this is probably 1018 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 2: the twenty seventh time I've listened to it, and I'm 1019 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 2: still trying to figure out why is everybody so pumped up? 1020 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: You know what, man, I'm trying to think it's something 1021 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,919 Speaker 1: that was super overrated to me. I'm gonna tell you, man, 1022 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: And people probably would get mad at me for this. Man, 1023 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: I thought it was a good album. I don't think 1024 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: it touched the first ones. I think the chronic Thumb, 1025 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: the second chronic, I don't think that. I thought it 1026 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,439 Speaker 1: was cool. 1027 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 2: Now, see, I think something wrong with your ears, dog 1028 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 2: Like this is crazy. You don't listen to me. 1029 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: I liked songs on it that was jamming like a motherfucker. 1030 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: I ain't saying an album with jamming, But I don't 1031 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: think it was better than the first one, not as 1032 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: a whole body of work. 1033 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 2: It's different than the first. 1034 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 1: One's see what I'm saying, bro, I'm not saying this whack. 1035 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's whack at always a great album, 1036 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 1: it's not. I don't think it's like the first one. 1037 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: From beginning to end. This one had joints on there. 1038 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: I didn't like some of them songs on that though. 1039 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: I always thought hit Man was overrated, overrated. I don't 1040 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: like hit Man. 1041 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1042 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: He was really rhyme. But that's why he didn't come 1043 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: out with nothing that was though. 1044 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 2: He was just That's not why hit is not average. 1045 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 2: That's just crazy. 1046 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: That's why start. 1047 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 3: I think a lot a lot of niggas got caught up, 1048 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 3: and you know of what the success of what dre was, 1049 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 3: and you still got to establish your own ship. You 1050 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 3: feel me, you you get that, you get that, you 1051 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,760 Speaker 3: get that shootout to starting gates, but you still gotta 1052 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 3: go out there. You know, sometimes niggas will leave you hanging. 1053 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 3: You gotta go out there and self promote and get 1054 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 3: yourself shipped together. And a lot of times when you ride, 1055 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 3: you know, on someone else's ticket, you wait for them 1056 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:48,720 Speaker 3: to uh, you wait for them to uh produce your success. 1057 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 3: You get me instead of you know, a nigga like, 1058 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out and do it regardless. Fuck it. 1059 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna wait around until I get an aftermath record, 1060 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 3: did or if I look up and it's two years 1061 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 3: later and it ain't shit happening and we're still riding 1062 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 3: the success off the project we did two years ago. 1063 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 3: Especially if I'm not signed as an artist or anything, 1064 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go out and create my own 1065 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 3: buzz or my own situation because I already got, you know, 1066 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 3: my foot in the door as far as being on 1067 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 3: the project and with Dre and producing and doing all 1068 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 3: of that. So I'm gonna go create my own lane 1069 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 3: because I already feel like I already got the hand 1070 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 3: in the foot in the door. 1071 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 2: You feel me, I'm gonna take I think we really 1072 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 2: got to talk to Hit to really figure out what happened. 1073 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on. 1074 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you, and this is no knock against 1075 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: hit right, this ain't. 1076 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 2: No knocking knock. You said hit with you. 1077 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you. Listen, listen, lemna tell you this. 1078 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 1: If you record was dope to watch, it was dope. Still, 1079 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: Dre was dope. Explosive was incredible. Forgot about Dre was good. 1080 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: The next episode was incredible. The less Get High Records 1081 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 1: You was fire. I want to say that it was good. 1082 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 1: I said it was good fun. It was good some 1083 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: mal lady niggas. I like that act, right. 1084 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,840 Speaker 3: I didn't like that. That was. 1085 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,399 Speaker 1: That was ther never all let the being, the being, 1086 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 1: the being, the being, the thing and all that stuff. 1087 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 1: It was cool. No bang bang was underninked bang bang 1088 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 1: bang bang. That was whatever to me. I thought the 1089 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: message was cool. It was like that. It had some 1090 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: amazing joints on there, but some of them songs was missing. Dog. 1091 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 1: I liked some of the hit Man's raps man, but 1092 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: other than that man hit Man looked like a fact 1093 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: a dude to sit home, eat don us and write 1094 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 1: wraps all day. 1095 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 2: What that got to do with him being See this 1096 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 2: is why you can't have an opinion because you just 1097 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 2: go too fucking far. See how you just said that ship. 1098 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you gotta understand that's what still wants to 1099 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 3: go there. You get me to go there, and I'll 1100 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,919 Speaker 3: be telling him it's a certain way you you go there, 1101 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 3: like we had this discussion. Now if you won't. If 1102 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 3: you're gonna say something about a niggas work, that's cool, 1103 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 3: but you don't turn around and say, yeah, nigga like 1104 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 3: you step you stepping over the line. Now you now 1105 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 3: you're going personal, So now find to you personal. I'm 1106 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 3: gonna say something about you or something personal, because what 1107 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 3: the does my songs have to do with how I look? 1108 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 3: I look like I'm sitting on the couch eating donuts 1109 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 3: all day. Where where is now? You're looking to go personal? 1110 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 3: You cannot do that. If you want to have an 1111 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 3: opinion about a nigga's work, that's fine. But if you 1112 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 3: want to set up and say a nigga look like 1113 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 3: he eating donuts all day, sitting on it, now you 1114 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 3: go on personal. 1115 00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 1: Feel Let me say what I'm saying. Yeah, this is 1116 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let me elaborate on that. What I'm 1117 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: saying is this in order to be a superstar. 1118 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 2: You have to We're not talking before you do this. 1119 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 2: We're not talking about his marketability as a talent. They rapping. No, 1120 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 2: you said he was average. Hit is way better than 1121 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 2: average as an MC. That's crazy. You just said that. 1122 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 2: Now you started to go into your exact bage, start 1123 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 2: talking about how tough it would be the market. Hit boy, 1124 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 2: we never got there. You're saying two thousand and one 1125 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 2: could be overrated because you're not a fan of hits music, 1126 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 2: not his marketability. Eminem is on the record, Snoop is 1127 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 2: on the record. These are some of the biggest stars, 1128 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 2: Doctor Dre, these are huge stars. They didn't need the 1129 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,479 Speaker 2: fourth Big Store. They needed a dope MC to rap 1130 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 2: and hit. Really like how Snoop was to the first 1131 00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 2: chronic hit was to. 1132 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: The two thousand and one. 1133 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 2: He carried it on his back as a MC. So again, 1134 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 2: I get what now, I get why E stops you 1135 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 2: because you just go to damn far It starts off 1136 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 2: being about the pen. 1137 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: Okay, let's do this right. I apologize, hit man. It 1138 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 1: wasn't nothing personal, Yes it was. I'll bust the mister 1139 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 1: toughy slash a smoothie duffy crashing flex on Tuesdays and 1140 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: rasping holds the movies. I had somebody with Oozy's that 1141 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: shady diiction, that bi nigga that was. 1142 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 2: I don't sympathize for black holes and whipping guys. 1143 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: You gotta recognize Hitmanerprise, Kelly, Pride, Bonds and Riders South 1144 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: Centralized the hen he got me that nice poke their 1145 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: eyes out on Mala's locus. Hope they don't have to 1146 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: find out the hard way. Snicks niggas in the pen 1147 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: to get hit when the guards look the other way. 1148 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Well hitting the treas. 1149 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 1: You playing games. I suggest you know the rules were 1150 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 1: putting guns to fools. Make sure you run your jew 1151 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: take honey and cruise to the snoody and snooze fools. 1152 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Pop koochie to this nut oozes. You shouldn't fuck with 1153 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: cruise this sick. The aftermath is we rules. Confuse me 1154 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 1: with the weather about the blow, motherfucker fucker. 1155 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 2: That's fun. Steve, you was a fucking hater, that shit tough. 1156 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 2: That mea is nice? That's nice? 1157 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Was he? 1158 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 2: One two three into the four nice bro Snoop is 1159 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,919 Speaker 2: a fucking eight is a first Battle Hall of Famer. 1160 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Snoop is like like dog, like that's not fair, like 1161 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ like that. 1162 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: Compare that the shots hit the crowd, then everybody ran 1163 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 1: whole Hunt's thing. That's like memorable dog, you know, But 1164 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 1: you're talking. 1165 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 2: About first ballot Hall of Famers. Eight and Dog are 1166 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 2: first battle of Hall of Famer. You can't compare everybody 1167 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 2: to eight and Dog. They don't do that. He's not 1168 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 2: a culture. Eight is a cultural phenomenon. Dog is a 1169 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 2: cultural phenomenon. Q not just dope m c's. They're also 1170 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 2: like revelations and culture. It's like their personal renaissance. 1171 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 3: Bro. 1172 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 2: They represent something that never been seen versus hitting just 1173 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 2: a nice MC. 1174 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: What like a seid like he alluded to earlier, right 1175 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: and not sure you know what hit. I'm apologized. I should. 1176 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 2: Cut your stupid ass out all here. I'm gonna call 1177 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 2: it first thing in the morning, telling me make a 1178 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 2: dish on your ass and this the ship out of you. 1179 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 2: You don't want to battle hit that dog? I have 1180 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 2: hit served your ass to do that when you ain't 1181 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 2: been in front of that mic. Still your pen might 1182 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 2: still be good with yo, but that but that microphone different. 1183 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: I gonna do what he do. The snooty snoozey suzy 1184 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 1: zy roll through the groupies. 1185 01:01:58,800 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 3: I can't do it. 1186 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: Here you go, I hit the lucy, lose and the boozy. 1187 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 2: I get what AD is saying, Dog, you don't know how. 1188 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what you mean if you be when you put 1189 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: yourself in that place, Dog in the upper ex line, 1190 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 1: you gotta be saying some stuff. Hit Man was cool, Dog, 1191 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 1192 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 3: He was him. 1193 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 2: Man is nice. It's not fair to compare him to 1194 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 2: eight to Q to dog first Battle Hall of Fame 1195 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 2: acts from the West. That's not fair because that's not 1196 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 2: That's more than just him seeing these are the first 1197 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 2: time people seeing this ship. They never even saw no 1198 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 2: ship like this, let alone the styles it is. Hit 1199 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 2: is dope. Even if it is it is not a 1200 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. But for sure he had a fucking 1201 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 2: All Star year, All Star year. That year he was 1202 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 2: in the All Star Game. 1203 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 4: He was killing that year, Oh Dele. He definitely contributed 1204 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 4: to the record. His presence was on all over the record. 1205 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 4: I don't think guy I never had an opinion about, 1206 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 4: you know, the contributions that he gave on on on 1207 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 4: the chronic record. 1208 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 3: I thought they were sufficient, you know, as standing up 1209 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 3: to Uh you know, who are all the other cats 1210 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 3: that was on the records? Uh M and exhibit and. 1211 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 2: You got all Hall of Famers eight on it. That's 1212 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 2: all Hall of Famers. This all Hall of this, like 1213 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 2: all Hall of Famers, and you got to show up. 1214 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 3: As they always believe in the up and comers. You know, 1215 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 3: he always give a shot to the up and comers, 1216 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 3: and he felt it was one of those. 1217 01:03:59,040 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 1218 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 3: Like I said, he contributed it significantly to that record. 1219 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 3: And I don't think I ever heard anyone's opinion of 1220 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 3: less of him on the record, like oh, nah, man, 1221 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,439 Speaker 3: they shouldn't have or whatever whatever. You know, Uh, it's 1222 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 3: just you know, I guess you know, if every to 1223 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 3: each his own, everybody has their opinion about what they 1224 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 3: feel or whatever. Like I said, it never bothered me. 1225 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 3: I thought his contributions were significant when it came to 1226 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 3: that record. 1227 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 1228 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 3: It wasn't like he sounded out of place. You get 1229 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 3: me in comparison to like you said, the Hall of 1230 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 3: Famers whatever, he didn't sound out of place. 1231 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 2: You know who he is on on the Dynasty Lakers. 1232 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 2: He's Rick Foxla. 1233 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 1: That's a good comparison, tell you real quick. G did 1234 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: you get that text me just sent you about Biggie 1235 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: and him stole that juicy record from that dude from Mississippi. 1236 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 2: I was ignoring. I was ignoring that was a real thing, dog. 1237 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: Like, that wasn't made up stuff. His record came up 1238 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: before Biggie's record. 1239 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 3: Nobody heard that. 1240 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't think Biggie stole I think Puffy probably heard 1241 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 1: that record because he said they were sitting the demo off. 1242 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 1: He sounds mister the big billy man. 1243 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 2: Why this is why people stopped accepting demos because of 1244 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 2: silliness like this. 1245 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: That was hard. 1246 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 3: Man, that he was dope. 1247 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it wasn't a dope song, but that's 1248 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 2: just you can't just go around saying somebody stole something. 1249 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: Still man, that's what he said. It was a lot 1250 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:39,920 Speaker 1: of people. He had the receipts. 1251 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 2: He don't have no receipts. All you can say put 1252 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 2: his out first, But I mean it is sampling and 1253 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 2: too may like that that might happen. 1254 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: And so his name just happened to be notorious b 1255 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 1: One Big Daddy. His song was hard. 1256 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 2: It wasn't mader than juicy. It was dope. See, this 1257 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 2: is what you disseminate for I'm sorry, I'm trying to. 1258 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 3: Traversity. 1259 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: He loves the man. 1260 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 2: Stuff you can't say. Probably, you can't just go around 1261 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 2: saying people stole stuff. Man, I'm telling you I'm not one. 1262 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 2: His name is Notorious One. 1263 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 3: That that's his line he's pushing down. Still go push 1264 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 3: that lie. He gonna push that third line like, I 1265 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 3: don't give a fuck. I'm gonna say nigga stole it. 1266 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 3: And then when you say that you have proof of that, 1267 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 3: how can you say that don't matter nigga. I'm just 1268 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 3: putting it out there because he came up before biggiees Do. 1269 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 2: It wasn't a national smash. 1270 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 1: Still, I don't think no see will say this. I 1271 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 1: don't think Biggie stole. I think probably heard that. 1272 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 2: Probably there's serious accusations in hip hop. You don't think 1273 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 2: you should be a little bit more like thoughtful about 1274 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 2: these type of accusations that this is why somebody gonna 1275 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 2: fight you. 1276 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 1: Notorious b One, Notorious be One. If you out there, man, 1277 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 1: we want to holler at you. Man, were gonna help 1278 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 1: you get this. 1279 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 2: You want to stroke that fire, do that you. 1280 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 3: Just he loves. 1281 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 1: You like man, Notorious b One shot the Notorious b 1282 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: One and you know what, it was heartbreaking. I like 1283 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls. I don't think Biggie stole it. Do I 1284 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: think some Diddy probably did? We see Diddy as a 1285 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 1: doe the bad character? 1286 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 2: How can we see Diddy is a bad character. 1287 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 3: That's your opinion, right, that's your is my opinion? 1288 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna start putting disclaimer at the beginning 1289 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 1: of the show. The opinions of this show are each 1290 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 1: of the own individual hosts. Norman Steel's opinion is not 1291 01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 1: eights opinion. Eights opinion is not Norman Steeles. When last 1292 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Malone say something crazy, it's not my opinion. It's his opinion, 1293 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,479 Speaker 1: and I support it. That's all I'm saying. 1294 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 2: Something work I'm saying to you is you don't think 1295 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 2: that that type of accusation and hip hop should be 1296 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 2: a little bit more thought after. 1297 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 1: You? 1298 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 2: If you say Notorious b One came out with his 1299 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 2: mt MA sample before, that's cool, that's all you gotta say. 1300 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,680 Speaker 2: But if you Notorious b One, listen, but if you 1301 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 2: start a legend. 1302 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because what are you trying to allege? You going? 1303 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 3: You're saying his name is notorious he had the sample. 1304 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 3: I'm not saying big did it, but. 1305 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 1: You are you are You are a professional rap You've 1306 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,439 Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time. She's a professional rapper. 1307 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Don't this sound kind of familiar? 1308 01:08:49,920 --> 01:09:01,560 Speaker 3: Jesus, you know how I mean these songs that I 1309 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 3: have that I recorded that about seven eight other artists 1310 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 3: have recorded to the same fucking song. I got a 1311 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 3: song right now, fucking drive by Miss Daisy. Main Source 1312 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:18,839 Speaker 3: did the friendly Game of Baseball, same shiit, same sample, 1313 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 3: same motherfucking song breakdown. You know what people said, Oh, 1314 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 3: main Source used that sample too. They didn't say one 1315 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 3: of y'all stole it. They just said both of y'all 1316 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 3: got good ears because both of y'all picked it the 1317 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 3: good sound. 1318 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,440 Speaker 1: And see, that's just something that's a coincidence. 1319 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 3: One Is it just a coincidence? Though? 1320 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: Why? 1321 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 3: Because why, in your opinion, have they stolen this dude ship? 1322 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 3: Why do you feel that because it sounded like it 1323 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,240 Speaker 3: was all a dream. I used to read magazine, Brandy 1324 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 3: Game of Baseball sounds just like Drive by Miss Daisy. 1325 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,680 Speaker 3: It comes on the same, it sounds the same. So 1326 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 3: why in your opinion did they steal this boy's identity? 1327 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 1: Why Puffy heard that dude stuff the demo cross. 1328 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 3: No proof of that. Though you have no proof of it, 1329 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:28,679 Speaker 3: you're making Listen, you do what these other fake gass 1330 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:34,320 Speaker 3: neves people do. You cannot do that, throw out stories 1331 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 3: because you want to throw them out. Have factuals on 1332 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:44,639 Speaker 3: the hoard. No, no, we're not going to be doing 1333 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 3: hypotheticals well out there, well well well because now we 1334 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 3: look at you, we're looking like all the other mother 1335 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 3: and I told you this. 1336 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,639 Speaker 2: We cannot do that unless. 1337 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:04,439 Speaker 3: We're not going out story just because they sound good. 1338 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 1: You know, that's not what I'm doing. See. The thing is, 1339 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 1: this is what I say. His record was out a 1340 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: year before that, so your homework, so what he had 1341 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 1: his song? 1342 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:23,000 Speaker 3: Now you would have to have the actual receipts saying 1343 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 3: Puff Daddy stole his whole identity. Without that, it's just 1344 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 3: your opinion. It's just. 1345 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 1: Still still you. You see, I haven't I haven't this. 1346 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 2: Big I did not you was going through this. I 1347 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:44,600 Speaker 2: did not know. 1348 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 3: You're not just in Biggie smalls. But what you're falsifying 1349 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,479 Speaker 3: accusations because you're turning around and saying, I don't think Puff, 1350 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 3: I don't think Biggie did it, but I think Puffy 1351 01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 3: did it. 1352 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 2: And it's like you're on Puff because he's in prison. Yeah, 1353 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 2: he said he's already a bad person. You see what 1354 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 2: he's going through. You see how you threw that out there? 1355 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that that that nigga Puffy did it. I'm telling 1356 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 3: you you. 1357 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 2: Puff has a history of still the music. I didn't 1358 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,800 Speaker 2: never hear Puff stole records from people. When what's the 1359 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 2: other records? 1360 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,080 Speaker 3: They said that and that, and we got to stop. 1361 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 3: We can't push that, we can't push that. 1362 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 1: Still. 1363 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 3: I'll give them damn. I said, stole the ship. So 1364 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 3: that's what we do. 1365 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 1: Then then when Biggie Dad he went to find a 1366 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 1: fake biggie, he went and put Shining there, told Shine 1367 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 1: to come and do some biggie stuff. 1368 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 2: You you, I think you need to end the pie bro. 1369 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 2: You you you you get. 1370 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 1: You know what? 1371 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:46,240 Speaker 3: Delusion? 1372 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 2: Or you saying that crazy ship. 1373 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it up to the public, y'all go 1374 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: check out Notorious. 1375 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:56,479 Speaker 2: Be One, do your research. Checkout when you do the research. 1376 01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 1: Why are you trying to stifle Notorious be One? Why 1377 01:12:59,160 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 1: you hating no One? 1378 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,680 Speaker 2: No, it's not I'm not stifling him. I'm saying you 1379 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,839 Speaker 2: should make a whole piece of you doing the homework 1380 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 2: versus you just throwing out some national I have. 1381 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 1: Been I have been investigating that dough show. 1382 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 2: Us, show us the email, Show us the proof that 1383 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 2: he sent it to upstairs record or to somebody in 1384 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 2: New York. Show us where he sent to that uptown records. 1385 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 3: He said, his records. 1386 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,200 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna read what he said before. 1387 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 2: We don't read what he said, go do the homework. 1388 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,320 Speaker 3: Let me saying, I'm gonna ready. 1389 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 2: I did not know you was going through this. This 1390 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,120 Speaker 2: nigga crazy. 1391 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,599 Speaker 3: Still said nigga, we finish, get nigga. I'm just I'm 1392 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 3: just finish safeck it and that's what I'm gonna do. 1393 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have my opinions about niggas and I'm gonna 1394 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let I'm gonna set it off. 1395 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,760 Speaker 1: This is what the rap game is, a cold world world. 1396 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 1: A rapper names and Notorious Big One. It's upset that 1397 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 1: he was ripped off. The game is dirty. I mean 1398 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 1: Notorious b One and he had a reported song called 1399 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,320 Speaker 1: Big Daddy that did zero damn it. She was from Mississippi. 1400 01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,679 Speaker 1: This is a real song that use the same sample 1401 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 1: as Juicy, which was derived from the hit song Juicy 1402 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 1: Fruit by Him Toomey. Decades after the tragic end of 1403 01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 1: Christopher Wallace. This song is making the rounds and the 1404 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 1: rappers talking. Basically, aggravations are here. He was ripped off. 1405 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 1: He was the Big Eat Smalls, the Big East Malls 1406 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 1: due to a lawsuit by Calvin Lockhart in nineteen ninety two, 1407 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 1: then became Notorious Big in ninety three. See one thing 1408 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I will get Big on. I talked to the homie right, 1409 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 1: the homie DD say that Big got his name from 1410 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: a smoker. She used to call him big Hey, big 1411 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 1: Hey big, And that's when he became big. 1412 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 2: Everybody start calling them big, right, And you accused one 1413 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 2: of your homie's friends. And still in the song go ahead, 1414 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,680 Speaker 2: I don't think I. 1415 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,320 Speaker 3: Thought he got the name from that movie with Sidney 1416 01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 3: Portier and Bill Cosby. And that's wh why they made 1417 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 3: him stop saying that, because there was a character in 1418 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:03,839 Speaker 3: that movie. 1419 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Called Biggie Smalls. He couldn't use Biggie Small no more 1420 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,560 Speaker 1: Bigg's names of ego, big Popper. I know some of 1421 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,600 Speaker 1: you have stuff under your nose to not smell it, 1422 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 1: But that's not going to change the fact that this 1423 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 1: is no coincidence. One similarity is one thing, but several 1424 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 1: along with missioning, the man stating the song and questions 1425 01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: a bulls eye. Now I don't agree with that person 1426 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,599 Speaker 1: down to the East Coast. 1427 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,720 Speaker 2: Listen, it's not a bulls eye. Look, I get it. 1428 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 2: Everybody in hip hop feels like they have the most 1429 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,800 Speaker 2: unique idea and how dare someone else sample the same 1430 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 2: record at them or have the same idea, even though 1431 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 2: notorys was a word that was really popularized at that 1432 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 2: time as certain things, right, I'm all least. 1433 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 1: What they said. Big is an amazing MC and this 1434 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,639 Speaker 1: takes nothing away from that. He's a great without Juicy, Buffy, 1435 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 1: Stole and Ida and names that came from B one 1436 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,960 Speaker 1: because he was desperate to win and the work. 1437 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 2: So here's a better question. Why did it not work 1438 01:15:59,200 --> 01:15:59,720 Speaker 2: for B One? 1439 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 1: This is what he said though. In ninety ninety three, 1440 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 1: I was signed to a small record label called Dragon 1441 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Records in Golfport, Mississippi. I had a song that I 1442 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 1: wrote to M two men called Juicy Fruit. I wrote 1443 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 1: the song to the actual record and it was called 1444 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 1: Big Daddy, Big Daddy was the lead single off the 1445 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 1: Mississippi Dope Boys album that was released in September ninety two. 1446 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 1: It was released on the same day of Snoop Dogg's 1447 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 1: first album, Doggy Snouder. Dope Boy's album was made by 1448 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 1: two Golf Court rappers, Tilly Dee and myself, the Notorious 1449 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,760 Speaker 1: Big One. Yeah, I had to name the song first. 1450 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 1: I know it might be hard to believe, but it 1451 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent of truth. We was on the 1452 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 1: radio first and in the stores first. We sent packtages 1453 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 1: to all the major labels shopping for distribution. Just imagine 1454 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: my surprise when people started calling me saying they just 1455 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 1: seen my video. We was trying to get the truth 1456 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 1: out back then, but Puppy kept shutting us down and 1457 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,880 Speaker 1: we left it alone. I'm not fat anymore than a 1458 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,680 Speaker 1: lot has changed. But before I leave this big So, 1459 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 1: I want everybody to know the truth. I was the 1460 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 1: original Notorious Big One. 1461 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 2: Notorious Big One. I'm not saying none of that. I'm 1462 01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 2: just saying that just in bad taste. 1463 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 1: So the man shouldn't say nothing. He just let it 1464 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:12,720 Speaker 1: go home. 1465 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,719 Speaker 3: I mean, you want to say nothing's going to happen today, 1466 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:17,679 Speaker 3: So What do you want? 1467 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,280 Speaker 2: What do you want? You want the credit for a 1468 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 2: record that you made that's not a hit record, I. 1469 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 3: Asks, niggas you talking about a nineteen ninety two, ninety three, 1470 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,639 Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty four. 1471 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,719 Speaker 2: What do you want thirty years? 1472 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 3: What do you want? 1473 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:34,720 Speaker 1: You want to probably be acknowledged. 1474 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,759 Speaker 3: I don't know, you're not going to be for knowledge. 1475 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 3: So what do you want to be acknowledged for? What 1476 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,320 Speaker 3: do you want to be acknowledged for that? 1477 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,519 Speaker 2: You was the first person to saple him too? May 1478 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 2: you're not well? 1479 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,479 Speaker 1: You know what, he probably wasn't the first person to 1480 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,120 Speaker 1: do that. All I'm saying, man, it's a possibility. 1481 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 3: It's saying you don't think that this was what would like? 1482 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 3: I said, what's the end game? What do you want? 1483 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 3: What do you want to happen? You want the world 1484 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,560 Speaker 3: to know that I was noty nigga. Biggie's dead, and 1485 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 3: and and Juicy came out thirty years ago, and so 1486 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:15,439 Speaker 3: now today, because Puffy is going through his ship, I 1487 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 3: want to stand up today and go, he stole nothing. 1488 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,880 Speaker 2: Shout out to not toys big one. But you know 1489 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 2: you got to have the second one, or the third 1490 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 2: one or the first one, like, that's just the game. 1491 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,080 Speaker 2: We don't get to this. I don't get kind of 1492 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,640 Speaker 2: this is where it gets tabloid is still cause it's like, 1493 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 2: why are we talking about a gossip colar. There's nothing 1494 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 2: that could happen about. 1495 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,720 Speaker 1: This, Hey man, it was just news. It was something 1496 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:41,639 Speaker 1: I saw that was intern. 1497 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 3: Ain't the goddamn newsacher, that's not news. That's that's that's 1498 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 3: controversial bullshit that we're throwing out there because it's not 1499 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 3: news because no one cares. It's not important, it's not sufficient, 1500 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 3: and it's not gonna do anything for hip hop. 1501 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,200 Speaker 1: So it's not gonna do this before that, man, But hey, 1502 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,680 Speaker 1: it is. I thought I thought it was a coincidence. 1503 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,520 Speaker 1: You thought you thought of a coincidence. 1504 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 3: No, my nigga stills go, it's a good way to 1505 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 3: you know, it's a good way to blow smoke up 1506 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 3: nigga's ass because no, nothing like that. 1507 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,560 Speaker 2: Is not going to work because nobody is going to 1508 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 2: ever question Biggie. I don't think so. 1509 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,479 Speaker 1: I don't think nobody cared. I think Biggie head. So 1510 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Biggie's status is locked. 1511 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,799 Speaker 2: Big One status ain't gonna be locked because he sampled 1512 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,760 Speaker 2: in two mate, his record came out and it could 1513 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:42,720 Speaker 2: have been a hit in the South. 1514 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,599 Speaker 1: It's not hey, it is what it is. Man. Shout 1515 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,639 Speaker 1: out to Notorious b One, Shout out to Biggie Smalls, Notorious. 1516 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 2: I'm trying to shout out big and puff. Now, you 1517 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,599 Speaker 2: don't call it that man a thief. You didn't call 1518 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,720 Speaker 2: these people thieves. Try to shot him out after you 1519 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:57,360 Speaker 2: didn't missed them. 1520 01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,960 Speaker 1: We had to send to the homie rich and see what, Rick, 1521 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 1: You're the only rich you know what, man? See this 1522 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,479 Speaker 1: is the funny is I don't had an episode in 1523 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 1: a long time because dudes, Man, we had a good 1524 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 1: time tonight. Man. We enjoy y'all sitting man. We appreciate 1525 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,679 Speaker 1: y'all sitting up kicking with us, man as we shoot 1526 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,679 Speaker 1: the bullshit and just have a little bit of fun. 1527 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:33,920 Speaker 1: And we're gonna holler y'all next week. We gonna hold 1528 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:34,760 Speaker 1: on y'all. Gotta stay 1529 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:39,840 Speaker 3: H