Speaker 1: What's up everyone on Tory Deal?
Speaker 2: And I'm a Nissa Ferira and this is MTV's official
Speaker 2: Challenge podcast.
Speaker 1: And it's Sunday Fun Day.
Speaker 2: Lissa, Oh, I can't wait. It's so delicious.
Speaker 1: I are you thrilled that you weren't there for this one?
Speaker 2: Okay, let me tell you something. I was watching it, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know shit about Ashley.
Speaker 3: You would have gotten it wrong her sign mean, like
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I mean there's plenty of people
Speaker 3: who didn't know it. What stunned me the most was
Speaker 3: Devin doesn't even know how.
Speaker 1: To spell zodiac sign.
Speaker 3: He spelled aris A I R E s like air s,
Speaker 3: but we.
Speaker 2: Know that he can't spell I know, but God bless him.
Speaker 2: I know it's true.
Speaker 1: I'm not coming at I am coming at Devn.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry are a little bit. Yeah, but they couldn't
Speaker 2: have been further apart. Devin and Leroy just didn't know
Speaker 2: each other at all, and then Davon and Shane were
Speaker 2: just like, she was like, can you just play along?
Speaker 1: So funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot going on in this episode,
Speaker 3: and I'm excited to like get into it more with
Speaker 3: Leroy as he comes on later and like, I do
Speaker 3: have a question though that like hit me from the
Speaker 3: jump of this episode, which is so the scripts in
Speaker 3: the beginning, you know how it opened up with FeSi
Speaker 3: and with Amber and.
Speaker 2: Devin was like you suck, like.
Speaker 1: Top, where are they recording these scripts? Does a producer
Speaker 1: come and hand them because we don't do this on
Speaker 1: the regular flagship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never done one, I don't think, and I
Speaker 2: think they started on All Stars two or three with it,
Speaker 2: so I'm sure it's an interview like can you say
Speaker 2: these lines? But it was a little dry this week.
Speaker 1: Oh god, it was so funny.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Devin was like that sucked.
Speaker 1: It was straight comedy.
Speaker 3: And then and then after that, it goes right into
Speaker 3: this montage of kiss.
Speaker 1: Me through the phone, kiss me.
Speaker 3: Did it not bring you back to eighth dance selling
Speaker 3: airheads as student government, because that's exactly where that song
Speaker 3: brought me.
Speaker 2: Well, Tori, I am eleven years older than you, so
Speaker 2: I wasn't there selling airheads.
Speaker 1: Or nineteenth nineteenth grade dance that's where you were.
Speaker 2: I was at the clurb. You were at the clurb.
Speaker 2: I was literally singing that. I literally had this as
Speaker 2: like my ring tone. Yeah, you did.
Speaker 3: Well, let's get into this episode because, like I thought,
Speaker 3: it was really really interesting that it switched up.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Frank and Sam pull through in this win. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2: I think Veronica and Katie were great at it. They
Speaker 2: knew exactly how to play it. I can't wait to
Speaker 2: see how Veronica is going to keep playing this game.
Speaker 2: I think that Trivia kind of showed and the interviews
Speaker 2: like where people were going their strategy and how they're
Speaker 2: probably going to move forward. I think that having Frank
Speaker 2: and Sam win is going to change the game.
Speaker 3: I mean, oh for sure, I did change the game
Speaker 3: right there, right, Like we see how it moves from
Speaker 3: from this point on out. And like the entire season,
Speaker 3: we've been getting this like you know, hint from Frank,
Speaker 3: like you haven't seen it yet, like right, and now you.
Speaker 2: Think I'm your friend, but watch yes, yeah, but that's
Speaker 2: why that's kind of you know, like he knew his positions,
Speaker 2: like with Katie, Veronica kind of know theirs too. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to play to your strengths, you know, and
Speaker 2: if it's political and if it's social, then be the
Speaker 2: best social political person you can be Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: think like socio political person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, socio political person.
Speaker 3: I think, like exactly knowing that most of the teams
Speaker 3: there said that Frank and Sam were the weakest team,
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, you guys are now poking the bear
Speaker 3: at this point in time, like you're you're revved up
Speaker 3: at this point, Like of course they're going to come back,
Speaker 3: and like Frank is smart, he's going to try to
Speaker 3: figure out his lane in the game, obviously, obviously, Like
Speaker 3: I mean, we've been watching it from the sidelines this
Speaker 3: entire season. Who knows what it's like to actually be
Speaker 3: in I mean, you know what it's like to be
Speaker 3: in house with Frank.
Speaker 1: Like he does.
Speaker 2: He probably makes everybody like they're his friend, right, Well,
Speaker 2: I mean I was aware of everything, so like as
Speaker 2: as his actual friend, I knew that I probably wasn't
Speaker 2: going to be a part of being the boozled one
Speaker 2: at some point. I didn't have a fear of that.
Speaker 1: You know, you knew you were going to be band
Speaker 1: boozled by him, or you know.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't think about I didn't fear that
Speaker 2: at all. I didn't think that Frank was going to
Speaker 2: do that, So but he wasn't in a position of power,
Speaker 2: but he did drop sprinkles of things, you know, sprinkles
Speaker 2: of stuff around the house and see like just little
Speaker 2: fires everywhere, which I don't mind. And as a gamer
Speaker 2: and a fun person to watch on the show, it's
Speaker 2: great to see that because it's entertaining.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.
Speaker 3: I'm like starting to like watch these like alliances though form,
Speaker 3: and I'm watching them through a few things people's social
Speaker 3: media posts and then also like these interviews, and I
Speaker 3: kind of feel like Frank is very in with obviously
Speaker 3: Ashley Kay, this is a no brainer, right, Like we
Speaker 3: see them hanging out on social media, but then also
Speaker 3: Frank is also very it seems like Amber too, and
Speaker 3: so like there's.
Speaker 1: It definitely seems like there's these side pockets, like these.
Speaker 3: Alliances kind of forming very subtly, and I'm just curious, like,
Speaker 3: did you pick up on that when you were in
Speaker 3: the house.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Amber and Ashley got really close, really fast, which
Speaker 2: made things a little difficult because Dario was close with
Speaker 2: Lee Y I'm working with Devin who is Devon, was like,
Speaker 2: I want to make sure you know, Leroy gets the fu,
Speaker 2: you know, like I want you guys to win, so
Speaker 2: I'm working with them. Then we have to like branch
Speaker 2: out the alliance because Ashley is with Frank and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: Frank's my guy. And then Dario, so it's like this
Speaker 2: big mashup. And then Fessi and Amber. Yeah, like so
Speaker 2: because they got so close, we didn't know what was
Speaker 2: going to happen, but we knew that Amber would probably
Speaker 2: have Ashley's back over a lot of people.
Speaker 3: It does seem like they're forming a genuine friendship, which
Speaker 3: is like the basis of how we built our alliances too,
Speaker 3: so it like makes complete sense, right. Well, so a
Speaker 3: big portion of this episode was about obviously the Dario
Speaker 3: leroy and then what turned into the Devin and Dario debacle.
Speaker 1: That's what I'd like to coin it. The Devin Dario
Speaker 1: Dibacco of.
Speaker 5: Twenty Triple D Triple D of twenty twenty five, where
Speaker 5: we find out that Dario is loose lipped and sprinted,
Speaker 5: which is my favorite thing ever.
Speaker 3: Devin's like Dario had a few sprintzers right, darted chatting.
Speaker 2: Really did really did get some loose lips sort of
Speaker 2: run in his mouth.
Speaker 1: Yep, here we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dario didn't even need to talk about it. He
Speaker 2: wasn't making any decisions. He was gonna vote Adam and
Speaker 2: Steve anyway, So why does it matter, Like you don't
Speaker 2: even need to be a part of that conversation about Leroy.
Speaker 2: You could have been like, listen, I got one person
Speaker 2: that I can't say, so y'all could do whatever you want,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna let him know, just like Leroy let
Speaker 2: Dario know the week before.
Speaker 3: I definitely think we got some Peters. As one liners
Speaker 3: from both Dario and Devin. Dario said that Devin was ugly,
Speaker 3: must have stung, absolutely stung, and Devin said, Dario's not.
Speaker 2: Even a tax bracket. I mean, the level of of
Speaker 2: it's just the words used in an argument by Devin
Speaker 2: so funny, like your breast stinks, you're ugly, You're not
Speaker 2: in my tax bracket, like walk away, Devin, Like it's
Speaker 2: so funny.
Speaker 3: Those aren't fighting words, no, I mean, and like you know,
Speaker 3: maybe you're trying to like get under someone's skin, but
Speaker 3: and you could tell they were genuinely heated. Like we know,
Speaker 3: when you're in the game someone says your name, you
Speaker 3: get mad. But like this was an entertaining argument to
Speaker 3: watch it.
Speaker 2: Definitely was you know what's crazy. The only other time
Speaker 2: I've seen this is with Johnny Bananas with who on Bloodlines.
Speaker 2: They got him and his cousin got in a fight
Speaker 2: with Dario and his brother Raffi, and they were in
Speaker 2: each other's face because it was about Nanny Nan. He
Speaker 2: was like absolutely not, and then Nicole was in it.
Speaker 2: They were all like, wow, Yeah, I've definitely seen Dario
Speaker 2: get in a face before, Like he will not bad
Speaker 2: down from confrontation.
Speaker 1: No, for sure not. I mean that's evident now.
Speaker 3: It makes me wonder, like you put Johnny, Devin, and
Speaker 3: Dario all in a room together, like who's picking who's
Speaker 3: side all three?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Jay, Yeah, I actually think Dario is
Speaker 2: a very funny person. He has so many jokes, so like,
Speaker 2: I do enjoy him as a person. But I think
Speaker 2: that this is this episode is the start of how
Speaker 2: messy this game is about to get. Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: The first shie was cast, my sister.
Speaker 1: I think it's so interesting because you know, poor Adam
Speaker 1: and Steve.
Speaker 3: This is like the fourth time they've been voted in
Speaker 3: now and as Adam is literally trying to talk to Cory,
Speaker 3: Lay about why please speak?
Speaker 2: May I please speak? May I please be heard? Speak?
Speaker 2: Do you feel may be heard? Do you hear? Okay,
Speaker 2: I would like to be heard? Please thank you?
Speaker 3: Like this poor guy's already gone in four times and
Speaker 3: he's still trying to keep his school and and literally,
Speaker 3: Corey Lay's response is like, okay, great, still.
Speaker 2: Voting you in.
Speaker 3: And I mean in a mad like Cory's so sassy,
Speaker 3: like truly, we are adults in a playground. Like it's
Speaker 3: like it's it's a game that people get so heated over.
Speaker 1: And I get it. I get this.
Speaker 2: You literally had a helmet on and Pad's yelling Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: a bit want to like.
Speaker 1: Give down, we get fired, Victor.
Speaker 2: Dude, it's so alter ego. It's just out of control. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how competitive we are, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know what, speaking of competitive, can we talk
Speaker 3: about how good this elimination was.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 1: This one actually looked like it would have been kind
Speaker 1: of fun to like be on the barrel with the rope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're Adam and Steve, who are clearly professionals
Speaker 2: at it. They were twinkleteing it. They danced on it.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, this is when Adam shouldn't have gotten rid of
Speaker 2: those toe shoes. I didn't even look at his footwear.
Speaker 2: I didn't look at his where And I'm surprised Steve
Speaker 2: didn't go barefoot. I mean, these guys are they are?
Speaker 1: They're nature men.
Speaker 2: Did I tell you that? Stephen sent me a text? No,
Speaker 2: and I didn't know who it was. And he sent
Speaker 2: me hands and I still didn't know who it was.
Speaker 2: Steven's a hand model.
Speaker 3: Oh no, he didn't try to identify He tried to
Speaker 3: identify himself by sending you his hands, thinking you'd know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, who is this man? Answer? These hands?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just like my tidbit for the day. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 3: Like god, I mean, if this is anyone's first season
Speaker 3: of All Stars, then you would be new to the
Speaker 3: information that Steve was, in fact a hand model.
Speaker 1: Go back and watch All Stars four.
Speaker 2: Still maybe Yeah, Like, if you see hands in a
Speaker 2: frame at at Walmart, it's probably they could very well
Speaker 2: belong to Steve.
Speaker 1: What can't this guy do?
Speaker 3: He can he can balance on barrels, add them together
Speaker 3: and model his hands?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, obviously, Like I love Devin so and Leebery is great.
Speaker 3: I'm always going to root for for Devin always, so I.
Speaker 1: Didn't want this to be the outcome that it is.
Speaker 3: But and then also like it would have been fired
Speaker 3: to kind of see Devin and Leroy go back in
Speaker 3: the house after all of this, Like there was a
Speaker 3: lot of smoke around this one.
Speaker 2: Oh, they would have lit it up. Devin wouldn't have
Speaker 2: shot up the whole season, No, Yeah, I would have
Speaker 2: riled him up for the rest of the season for sure.
Speaker 2: I just can't wait to see what they do with
Speaker 2: that star because you think you think it's gonna go
Speaker 2: they can give it to anyone else. But they were like, hm, hm,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be like last season. It's so true.
Speaker 2: TJ always finds a way to switch that shit up,
Speaker 2: so you never know what's gonna happen. And I'm really
Speaker 2: excited to see. It's so true how this is going
Speaker 2: to change the game too.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more Aisa, And you know who else
Speaker 3: doesn't know what's gonna happen. Leroy because he is no
Speaker 3: longer in the game, wasn't there, but he is.
Speaker 1: Gonna be on the podcast.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to Leroy about how his experience was
Speaker 3: on Battle of the Era season forty and also All
Speaker 3: Stars five and get into maybe what's coming up in
Speaker 3: the future potentially right after this, so stay tuned, guys.
Speaker 3: All right, everybody, we are here with one incredible challenger,
Speaker 3: and this person is one of the.
Speaker 1: Kings from Era three. He was on Rivals one and two,
Speaker 1: Battle of the x.
Speaker 3: Is one and two, I mean, so many seasons, all
Speaker 3: the way up to Double Agents, and finally again we
Speaker 3: get to see him on All Stars five.
Speaker 5: Welcome in, Leroy, Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back.
Speaker 6: It feels good to be here, Leroy.
Speaker 2: How do you feel. Did you get the knife out
Speaker 2: of your back? Or no?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel I feel good. You know.
Speaker 7: All Stars to me is fun. It's a little different
Speaker 7: than the Challenge, you know, but you have to watching
Speaker 7: this episode.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel good.
Speaker 7: Really, Yeah, it didn't make me. It didn't make me like,
Speaker 7: it didn't make me craze or anything like. I kind
Speaker 7: of I understand it, like when things happen now, right,
Speaker 7: I guess it's probably a little bit of more maturity
Speaker 7: because you know, sometimes you watch the ship back You're like, no,
Speaker 7: I want to kill us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't tripping when.
Speaker 7: I remember when they were talking about throwing a Dario
Speaker 7: and as soon as I heard his name, I immediately
Speaker 7: told him and then I said, hey, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: make sure that doesn't happen. So when he heard my name,
Speaker 7: because obviously they knew that night, people knew what it was,
Speaker 7: he didn't even tell me, and I'm like, I'm like, damn.
Speaker 6: So it also goes to the mindset of like I
Speaker 6: get it.
Speaker 7: You know, as he was explaining, he's like, man, he
Speaker 7: me and Devin, we were one of the strongest teams there,
Speaker 7: and he's like, man, with you being here, is gonna
Speaker 7: be hark for me to win. I just didn't get
Speaker 7: the memo that we were not in an alliance, right.
Speaker 1: People work with strong teams all the time.
Speaker 3: Like it makes sense why, especially when you have such
Speaker 3: a history of friendship. I mean, it dates, it predates
Speaker 3: the family life and the and with you and Cam
Speaker 3: and the babies. Now, so like, give us a little
Speaker 3: bit of that history before the season, like where were
Speaker 3: you and Dario way back when?
Speaker 1: And then like where were you like before the season? Yeah,
Speaker 1: before the season.
Speaker 7: I mean me and Darry's relationship started beloved the lines
Speaker 7: when I first met him and his brother, and immediately
Speaker 7: that came to Vegas. Took him under my wing, as
Speaker 7: he said, you know he's lived with me before. He
Speaker 7: was like a brother. You know, I met his mother,
Speaker 7: his sister. I could truly say out of he's my
Speaker 7: top five. That are a lot of people from the challenge. Wow,
Speaker 7: Like I love him and he feels the same way
Speaker 7: about me. So up until I just seen him. I
Speaker 7: just went out to Florida and seen Dario, him and
Speaker 7: his brother. I went out to Florida right after I
Speaker 7: got eliminated, very very quickly, probably the first person that
Speaker 7: got eliminated on season forty.
Speaker 3: The foorst person, the first first I didn't mean to
Speaker 3: allow it was like the fourth.
Speaker 2: There were eight. There were seven other people that went
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 7: I was the first elimination in the first to go home,
Speaker 7: like very first out the gate. I always remember that.
Speaker 7: I always remember looking out that playing with the and
Speaker 7: being no, being like so long going home to my kids.
Speaker 2: But is not Oh my god, they're getting so they're
Speaker 2: getting so big too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, my daughter she's doing a stand up and fall
Speaker 7: down she's about to start walking my start walking. But yes,
Speaker 7: but Dario or not very very close. He's I'm about
Speaker 7: as close to him. And when you say challenger, is
Speaker 7: how I am with Bananas?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 7: And I talked to him more frequently than I talked
Speaker 7: to Johnny, so him and I, like I said, love him,
Speaker 7: would do anything for him. And this isn't to like
Speaker 7: throw it on extra things. So you guys know, my god,
Speaker 7: they can't believe he did that. It's just you know,
Speaker 7: when you people will say what they wouldn't do. When
Speaker 7: you start putting this money up for grabs. I think
Speaker 7: people's mindset totally changed. I know their mindset changes because
Speaker 7: I've been in it, you know, fifteen times and played the.
Speaker 6: Game, so I understand it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know it.
Speaker 6: But what am I going to do?
Speaker 7: Like I for me personally, I tell him I'm not
Speaker 7: willing to lose my friendship with him over again three
Speaker 7: hundred thousand.
Speaker 6: For me, it's not that Yeah, it's not that serious.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 3: It made me realize though, It just made me realize
Speaker 3: it right now when you brought up Banana's name, and I.
Speaker 1: Just feel like I got to put it out there
Speaker 1: because the challenge.
Speaker 3: Fan was already kind of talking about it, like, you
Speaker 3: did give Johnny a one in Karma point.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, you know what. I want to go
Speaker 7: see Johnny for his anniversary, his gym or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 7: he has said something about the one. He didn't say
Speaker 7: it to me. I forgot about it, and Johnny told
Speaker 7: me from before we even left it he wasn't trying
Speaker 7: to be there.
Speaker 6: Oh. I was like, man, I'm not trying to be here.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you have co signed the whole theory
Speaker 3: behind why by Johnny and Devin were fighting.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that was going to be dropped
Speaker 1: on this podcast.
Speaker 2: We have to take to the streets to we must alert,
Speaker 2: we must alert paparazzi.
Speaker 7: Oh he knows, but so so quickly. So it doesn't
Speaker 7: It doesn't make it any excuse for why I did it.
Speaker 7: But I was just like, you're about to be here,
Speaker 7: so one, it's probably gonna look good on TV. He
Speaker 7: was about to be there, and like he when I
Speaker 7: got alimitad, he hug me and said, hey, man, i'mna
Speaker 7: be right behind you. Damn I'm shuck so so so
Speaker 7: then he mentioned it to me when they got talked
Speaker 7: him a few weeks ago. He said he said something
Speaker 7: about the one. I forgot about it because it wasn't
Speaker 7: done in like no, but miss is intent. So even
Speaker 7: when we were in Florida, he said something about the
Speaker 7: one about somebody, I don't know if it was Laura
Speaker 7: or whatever. And I didn't even think nothing of it
Speaker 7: about what I had gained him. And then when he
Speaker 7: called me about it, I was like, are you upset
Speaker 7: with me? He was like, nah, man, it's just you know,
Speaker 7: I'm catching you know, just because whatever, Like why would
Speaker 7: you do that? And I explained it to him, and
Speaker 7: maybe you don't remember telling me that, But I was
Speaker 7: trying to be there. I didn't like lose on purpose.
Speaker 2: I was trying to be there. I would have taken
Speaker 2: a spot.
Speaker 7: But but but what happens is that's what Zach used
Speaker 7: to do back in the day, right, he was saying,
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to be here and then end up
Speaker 7: making it always to the end.
Speaker 6: So maybe that's what Johnny was trying to do, and
Speaker 6: he managed the end totally right.
Speaker 7: But you don't got to tell me that, bro, Like
Speaker 7: I'm your brother exactly. So I'm like, everybody, get no
Speaker 7: one right, yeah, but he you know, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I talked to on my phone the other day. He said
Speaker 7: he's not upset with me, and if he is, you know,
Speaker 7: it's a discussion. But you know, to that point, somebody
Speaker 7: could watch Rivals or watch the seats like, well, yeah,
Speaker 7: you gave Johnny and one and whatever the caisse would be.
Speaker 7: I'm just not tripping man, Like, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 7: that our friendship would would be lost over me giving
Speaker 7: him a one, right, And I hope that he wouldn't
Speaker 7: know it wasn't doing nothing to try to like if
Speaker 7: I knew he was gonna be in the game, and
Speaker 7: then you get in the five every time you like
Speaker 7: you ain't about to be there, give him on one.
Speaker 3: He ain't there, right, So I mean, and I think
Speaker 3: that same mentality that you carried from the Johnny situation,
Speaker 3: it's it's clearly like how you're handling the Dario one.
Speaker 3: So I think it speaks to at least the level
Speaker 3: of consistency with how the game.
Speaker 7: I didn't even know by that time when I went
Speaker 7: to go do Rivals, I didn't even know who was
Speaker 7: still in the game or what happened with forty, you know,
Speaker 7: and but so what I do understand playing these games
Speaker 7: now is that people will say what they wouldn't do
Speaker 7: and what they would do in certain areas. It was
Speaker 7: a time that Johnny had did something to me and
Speaker 7: by the Baldy exits where he fell off on purpose
Speaker 7: and now he was trying to call him that.
Speaker 6: Ain't your boy, He's supposed to help you.
Speaker 7: I was like, now, he would never do that, And
Speaker 7: then Johnny told me that he did it or whatever,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, I wasn't.
Speaker 6: Tripping on my bro I just don't care that much. Now.
Speaker 6: I don't take it as if Dario was like, said
Speaker 6: my name, bote.
Speaker 7: Him in, get him out of there. He was like,
Speaker 7: I'm sure he wanted me to come back, but he
Speaker 7: just wanted some room to open up.
Speaker 2: So no, I get it. Yeah, how do you think
Speaker 2: it compared, you know, being on All Stars to being
Speaker 2: on Battle the Errors.
Speaker 7: Now the airs was like the challenge is then they're
Speaker 7: like like I always say, you got dinner to be
Speaker 7: an Olympian.
Speaker 6: Now to be there, Yeah, and.
Speaker 7: All Stars is more chill, it's more, it's more, it's
Speaker 7: more of a good time. It's more of a good time.
Speaker 7: And some people there don't even work out. So I
Speaker 7: was like, Okay, cool, I'm about to go ahead and
Speaker 7: get me a win real quick. Because people in there
Speaker 7: bushing loving this. I'm waking up every day, you know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, doing crunches and lunges. People over there
Speaker 7: sipping on mocktails and cocktails. I'm like, all right, but
Speaker 7: it's just I like it because it's definitely nostalgic because
Speaker 7: it reminded me of when I first did Robb was one,
Speaker 7: you know, and seeing the people I don't want to
Speaker 7: say older, but people who've done it before me. I've
Speaker 7: never liked to do a show with Beth. That's amazing,
Speaker 7: you feel what I'm saying, So that part of it
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, well, I also just want to ask one
Speaker 3: more question about Season forty, because we have you and
Speaker 3: I feel like this kind of just happened, Like how
Speaker 3: did it feel knowing that you and Tony went up
Speaker 3: against each other in that elimination and then like there's
Speaker 3: rumors that he didn't perform to his full ability during
Speaker 3: the next elimination that he literally threw himself into Like
Speaker 3: don't you kind of wish that he would have just
Speaker 3: gone home against.
Speaker 6: You no, well, you know what's crazy. Oh no, No,
Speaker 6: Tony was the first Tony.
Speaker 7: Tony was the first elimination I've ever had where it
Speaker 7: was like everybody got a plan until that get punched
Speaker 7: in the face. Because in my mind, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 7: I'm going to elimination. You know, I didn't want to
Speaker 7: do horball against him because he would have just killed me,
Speaker 7: and I wouldn't want to do horball again anybody. I
Speaker 7: feel like I do, okay, But when when I tried
Speaker 7: to get a hold of him and he was body signing,
Speaker 7: I face all of my in my face from the sand,
Speaker 7: I'm like, WHOA, Like this this got strong, way stronger
Speaker 7: than after the first round.
Speaker 6: I was like, t J, let me get a window.
Speaker 6: Seat bro.
Speaker 7: Off top, like, let me get a window. I'm about
Speaker 7: to go see the water. Like I'm out of here,
Speaker 7: y'all tripping, I'm not doing this with this man. But yeah,
Speaker 7: when I found out about that, no, because after seeing
Speaker 7: what the final was and the elimination you A car
Speaker 7: had to do, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I totally forgot about the final your
Speaker 2: swimming abilities, so.
Speaker 7: Imagine me getting all the way to the end to
Speaker 7: the last elimination on some tread water. As soon as
Speaker 7: I jumped in out of went straight to the bottom.
Speaker 7: I want to like, it wouldn't even have been enough
Speaker 7: to It wouldn't even been enough episode.
Speaker 2: You'd still you'd still be in the Philippines swimming.
Speaker 6: Yes, in the water.
Speaker 2: You would have been in a life jacket, on a
Speaker 2: life a life vest. Yeah, so life jacket, a life raft.
Speaker 2: You would have been in Kingston's floaties.
Speaker 6: Jumping them up, could go straight to the bottom, just
Speaker 6: thinking of.
Speaker 2: You better give yourself.
Speaker 1: You're definitely a better swimmer, Tori.
Speaker 7: When they told y'all to put both pants out of
Speaker 7: the water, this is my this is my notorious thing.
Speaker 6: When I'm drowing to.
Speaker 2: Work, I'm literally crying. The other thing that people are
Speaker 2: gonna need help help with is like a lineup because
Speaker 2: now that you're gone, nobody can get a haircut. And
Speaker 2: that's the other thing. Like y'all are like, we look crazy.
Speaker 6: I'm like Keith around man, look even me. I'm done
Speaker 6: cutting hair on challenges.
Speaker 2: Yes, let them have the gobble haircut.
Speaker 7: Do a challenge again. If any any challenges are listening,
Speaker 7: I barely be cut mine no more. I don't get
Speaker 7: the damn like I'm not doing it because it's like work.
Speaker 7: I get there and then you know, seet woman to
Speaker 7: shave his back and his arm. Fits does want me
Speaker 7: to do is fucking ass hair. I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 7: literally enough on our off days where we're supposed to
Speaker 7: be chilling.
Speaker 6: I got like five dues at my bad Fetci sitting there.
Speaker 6: You know, he got his Justin Bieber here.
Speaker 7: I'm like, no, I'm cool, so so no, but yeah,
Speaker 7: I heard that happen with Tony and I can't confirm
Speaker 7: or deny if that was the case.
Speaker 6: It's just and then I but like I said, I lost.
Speaker 6: I f up on the puzzle. It was all my fault.
Speaker 6: Forty was forty.
Speaker 7: What I will say is every season, like you were
Speaker 7: ready to go do a challenge, always hit myself. I'm
Speaker 7: like them, I wonder going home first because it ain't
Speaker 7: about to be me, straight up, That's what I'll be thinking.
Speaker 6: Like that.
Speaker 7: I ain't no where I said I'm going because the
Speaker 7: first he ain't. Nobody's gonna vote me in first. That's
Speaker 7: not happening. So it's like Lee or you, you would
Speaker 7: have to lose. That's exactly what I.
Speaker 2: Did, and he was just out in that boat, just
Speaker 2: out there. I don't know what you were looking for.
Speaker 6: Help help, Hey I was drowning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a I have a question though, because
Speaker 2: I'm really trying to figure out on how you and
Speaker 2: Devin really became rivals, because I feel like we've done
Speaker 2: so many seasons together, I've never really seen the beat.
Speaker 7: So in Double Ages, I was playing a really like
Speaker 7: sneaky game, doing a lot of bullshit. And yeah, so
Speaker 7: with the with the I think it's something with the
Speaker 7: voting that had happened. He picked up on it as
Speaker 7: he was as he lost. I think it's when he
Speaker 7: went in against the rail I did, like some shady movie.
Speaker 7: He was like, hey, everybody in Leever is working with
Speaker 7: Big Brother, which I can't remember.
Speaker 6: We probably was, and.
Speaker 2: So Cam was running, Cam is running game, Cam is
Speaker 2: running circles around people, so listen.
Speaker 7: Like I thought, I when they said me and Devin,
Speaker 7: it made me feel uncomfortable really, so it's probably it
Speaker 7: probably was good that I didn't win because I was like, man,
Speaker 7: all people go says like, man, he should have won.
Speaker 6: He was with DEVN so now we lost.
Speaker 7: But I really felt like have we not went home
Speaker 7: on this one, we probably would end up winning the
Speaker 7: whole thing for sure.
Speaker 6: And that's not me being like hocky. You guys know that,
Speaker 6: that's not even my thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you guys were a great, great pair.
Speaker 1: There was only room in the house for one guy
Speaker 1: guy pair.
Speaker 3: Like at some point in time it was going to
Speaker 3: amount to this, and I obviously we were hoping it
Speaker 3: was going to be even Devin pulling out the wind.
Speaker 1: I love working with Devin. You know, him and I
Speaker 1: we work so well together.
Speaker 3: I'm curious, like you guys have never really competed that
Speaker 3: closely with one another. What was it like working with
Speaker 3: him in the game politically and then also physically.
Speaker 7: First and foremost, I've always loved and liked Devin. Devan
Speaker 7: is a is an ally ally, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: like the real ally.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I always liked Devin and then get a chance
Speaker 7: to work with him. He's funny, So I don't even
Speaker 7: really take Devin as serious, but the politics of the game.
Speaker 6: He's really good at.
Speaker 7: And then you know, physically during the game he was
Speaker 7: willing to work out and so kind of like we
Speaker 7: messed well together. It was never no pressure He never
Speaker 7: talked to me crazy. It was just always like I could.
Speaker 6: Work with him.
Speaker 2: You guys were really good together. The ball one where
Speaker 2: I'm watching them on the cargo net.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, good players.
Speaker 2: They're just like up there, we're like eighty five balls,
Speaker 2: the only team that did it in two trips.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, so he's he's super strategic.
Speaker 7: I was telling him with puzzles, like, hey man, let
Speaker 7: me let me try to do something, and you're.
Speaker 2: Taking credit for the puzzle.
Speaker 7: That's for real, because I listen, let me tell you
Speaker 7: really quickly. For season forty, all I did was puzzles
Speaker 7: and swimming, and I remember working out with Tony and
Speaker 7: Tony said, Lee, right, all you do is run and
Speaker 7: swim and do puzzles.
Speaker 6: When are you gonna lift some weights?
Speaker 7: And I said, listen, wait, so what like I'm in
Speaker 7: shape and nobody doing nothing to me, And then he
Speaker 7: end up whipping my ass and elimination round.
Speaker 2: His challenge was a lot of swimming and puzzles.
Speaker 6: And wasn't for forty.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, the final I was all swimming and puzzles,
Speaker 3: So I mean yeah.
Speaker 7: But Tony he was like, what if somebody put their
Speaker 7: hands and I'm like, anybody doing shit to me.
Speaker 6: I'll help help like this, listen, you know.
Speaker 2: I remember standing next to Leroy and he was like,
Speaker 2: I would not be Paulie on the other side of
Speaker 2: that hall. I would be like, no, this is when
Speaker 2: I leave.
Speaker 6: Ye. I wouldn't.
Speaker 7: First of all, I'm not trying to say THEO in
Speaker 7: that Paulie. I wouldn't even want to go against PAULI
Speaker 7: in there because Paulie is trying to hurt somebody.
Speaker 6: I ain't got that in me, no moment.
Speaker 7: But I remember when I got back home, Nya kept like,
Speaker 7: she kept sending me videos of my face in the
Speaker 7: elimination when it was done and laughing.
Speaker 6: My god, she was just you hear in.
Speaker 7: The background she was like, dog, you look I got
Speaker 7: sitting all on my face. She was like, bro, you
Speaker 7: look crazy like he drugged you. This is from I'm
Speaker 7: like Manna.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Sometimes she sends me the most unhinged tweets. I'm like, Nyah,
Speaker 1: I stay off Twitter for a reason.
Speaker 2: Do not so good. I love all of it.
Speaker 7: You know what really messed me up, though, was Frank
Speaker 7: and Sam that really like I would starting to get
Speaker 7: upset because like once Frank got that power.
Speaker 6: He just started talking crazy and I'm sitting here like, bro,
Speaker 6: what and Sam? You know? Sam? Sam? Sam's cool, but Frank.
Speaker 6: I just felt like he's like, he got this power,
Speaker 6: now he's going to use it.
Speaker 7: But I also do understand like if I was them,
Speaker 7: I would have sent us in there too. What I
Speaker 7: what I did with the convos the conversation was just
Speaker 7: like why shouldn't we throw you in there? I'm like, whoa, bro,
Speaker 7: we remember you see the back player the conversation where
Speaker 7: we could have thrown them in we was like, hey,
Speaker 7: we're gonna work together as soon as he got the power.
Speaker 7: It's just so that kind of threw me through a loop.
Speaker 7: I was a little upset by that. But then you
Speaker 7: have to go back to like lead, right, if I
Speaker 7: think I'm one of the strongest players in the game
Speaker 7: with my partner, what do you think the housees I've
Speaker 7: never been in the house. While I walked around like yo,
Speaker 7: we got this and supper. When I was with Casey
Speaker 7: on Double Agents, like, ain't nobody us, I was like,
Speaker 7: it was me and Devin try something and they did,
Speaker 7: and I was help.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 2: Man, I need a T shirt. That's I need to
Speaker 2: put it on when I like during voting, anytime I
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable, I need to help heal, Heal help shirt.
Speaker 7: But you know, Devin, Devin, I will say, uh, as
Speaker 7: he said before, He's never crossed nobody.
Speaker 6: He was so upset at Dario and he wanted me
Speaker 6: to be so mad at him, like or this is
Speaker 6: not your friend, blah blah blah.
Speaker 7: And I get it, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 7: I feel like I feel like Devin is a legit
Speaker 7: stand up guy and he just couldn't believe it.
Speaker 6: But yeah, we're just We're just two different people, you know,
Speaker 6: It's just kind of whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was like upset for you because
Speaker 2: I feel like Devon would never do that to like
Speaker 2: his friends.
Speaker 7: And it's great, but it wasn't just them, it was
Speaker 7: it was it was Betty and Amber too, Like the
Speaker 7: whole house was in on it.
Speaker 6: Right. So I didn't a lot of times I'm not putting.
Speaker 7: Stuff together because I'd be in la la land somewhere
Speaker 7: and I was like, I was we sitting sweet, who's
Speaker 7: gonna do something? I see all the elimination rounds now
Speaker 7: that I get when you talk some ad to twenty
Speaker 7: three on three sides.
Speaker 2: Yeah, help, help.
Speaker 6: Help, I'm not doing that. Like I thought that it
Speaker 6: was gonna be some physical you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It was like, nah, awesome, get I get one side
Speaker 7: of twenty three, the other side of twenty three, the
Speaker 7: other side of six. I was like, this is is
Speaker 7: over with everything, everything that I practiced for maths. Never
Speaker 7: that couldn't dry on the challenge, right, I'd be thinking
Speaker 7: about to be like twenty two thirty seven times sixty three.
Speaker 7: Bet easy, we could do this all three sides twenty three.
Speaker 7: I was really over at bullshit. I was waiting for Devin.
Speaker 3: I mean we didn't really get to see Devin's Devin
Speaker 3: finish his either.
Speaker 1: Did neither one of you finish your your puzzle.
Speaker 6: Don't even ask you, No, I didn't the whole time.
Speaker 7: I was fucking around waiting for Devin to come, because
Speaker 7: they once you finished, you come.
Speaker 6: I bet so. I just did you know one this way?
Speaker 7: I knew damn well, if I got twenty three this
Speaker 7: way and the other way, that other number was nowhere
Speaker 7: near twenty three.
Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't as close as it seemed.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we had probably like one more lot to do,
Speaker 7: so they did. They actually did really well. Steven Adam, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I really liked those two, you know, I really liked
Speaker 7: I really enjoyed playing with all of them. I also
Speaker 7: heard that there was a queer alliance going on. Can
Speaker 7: we say the word queer?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can say that. You don't know, thank you
Speaker 2: for asking.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a queer alliance.
Speaker 7: From what I hear that anybody that was queer or
Speaker 7: in the lgbt Q plus community wasn't going to vote
Speaker 7: for each other.
Speaker 6: So that's something that I have found out. I was like,
Speaker 6: I'm okay, that is like the entire cast. Yes, I
Speaker 6: was like, I was through. I'm like, oh damn. But
Speaker 6: it didn't matter. It didn't matter. I felt like it
Speaker 6: was a very fair game for the elimination around.
Speaker 7: I feel like it was fair how it played out
Speaker 7: because I always think of like, what could I have
Speaker 7: done differently to have prevented that?
Speaker 6: You know, maybe next time about play a game.
Speaker 7: Whoever I'm in an alliance with, I need to ask them, like, hey,
Speaker 7: everything that has that goes with the alliances, this is
Speaker 7: what we are. Because if you're like, well, if you
Speaker 7: don't vote for me, but the numbers is going my
Speaker 7: way and then we're not in an alliance and you
Speaker 7: don't think to do these things. So now it's kind
Speaker 7: of like after having an experience, I have to ask
Speaker 7: that because people's alliance and what they're thinking and get
Speaker 7: closer to the money.
Speaker 6: You got to keep checking in.
Speaker 2: We're good, Yeah, right, we need a checklist, like through
Speaker 2: the weeks, like okay, it's week one, that's very loose.
Speaker 2: Week nine, I need to fucking know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, and somebody could los straight to your face
Speaker 7: and you have to be prepared for that, right, so
Speaker 7: you can never be comfortable. Anissa and Tory, y'all won't
Speaker 7: have to do that because there's nothing you don't have
Speaker 7: to do that, right, And I thought that Dario and
Speaker 7: I didn't have to, but it was a different situation.
Speaker 7: But I think that for anybody who's listening challenges, listen
Speaker 7: to that you definitely got to do to check in
Speaker 7: because people people switch up overnight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: I still we still check in. I think Tory and
Speaker 2: I still check in, and we would have to check
Speaker 2: in towards the end because I told her I push her,
Speaker 2: I'd push her out of the way right before finish line.
Speaker 2: Of course, fight me on it too, that's yeah, but
Speaker 2: to get there, I'm not fucking her over.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's like why it's so unsettling, Like,
Speaker 3: and I think the way you're handling it speaks to
Speaker 3: the relationship you have with Dario. I think, like you
Speaker 3: can see how much of a good friend you are
Speaker 3: because you're like trying to make the excuses off.
Speaker 2: It's a game.
Speaker 3: You're putting yourself in his shoes, you understand, But the
Speaker 3: truth is, if you were in his shoes, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: have done that same thing. You already said it earlier
Speaker 3: this season when somebody when his name got brought up,
Speaker 3: you went directly to him and you told him and
Speaker 3: you said you would do everything in your power to
Speaker 3: make that not be the situation. So I just like
Speaker 3: am curious, where do you think it went wrong between
Speaker 3: you and Dario? And like at what point with who
Speaker 3: being in power? Or do you think it had more
Speaker 3: to do with Ashley Kelsey's vote, or like where do
Speaker 3: you think it all kind of fell apart?
Speaker 7: I think that Dario come into the game, like and
Speaker 7: who we spoke about it, he wanted to win.
Speaker 6: He was happy to be back.
Speaker 7: But I think that he probably thought, like, damn, I
Speaker 7: really don't have a chance, like when that play happened
Speaker 7: where we lost against Frank and Sam and that and
Speaker 7: then the whole house was thicking that right, So I'm
Speaker 7: assuming he was probably like for him, it was more
Speaker 7: so like, hey, not to get Lee ready to go home,
Speaker 7: But who could take out one of the strongest teams
Speaker 7: in the house, which is Steven Adam.
Speaker 6: It would probably be y'all. So I'm gonna go that way.
Speaker 7: I don't want to see you go home, but like, hey, man,
Speaker 7: like if you two are here, I have no chance
Speaker 7: of winning, which is which is probably true. I don't
Speaker 7: know how the season plays out, but which would probably
Speaker 7: be true. But that also, it just needed to be
Speaker 7: a conversation. It wasn't a conversation, right, And you know,
Speaker 7: had he told me that, I'm very easy going, right,
Speaker 7: I'm very understandable. I always see from all perspectives, even
Speaker 7: how I'm seeing it now without him, you know, just
Speaker 7: even watching it on TV. Yeah, we had the conversation.
Speaker 7: He could have told me that. I could have been
Speaker 7: upset about it, and I could have tried to change
Speaker 7: his mind. He still don't change his mind. At least
Speaker 7: I know where we're staying right, And even though he didn't,
Speaker 7: it's just like, man, sometimes like that happened with family,
Speaker 7: and I told him in front of everybody, I said,
Speaker 7: I don't care about none of this shit, like, yeah.
Speaker 6: I truly do love him, and I really don't. I
Speaker 6: really don't.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I am like, damn, bro, you know
Speaker 7: because I talked to him the other day. He was like, man,
Speaker 7: I really felt like I messing your chances up and.
Speaker 6: Winning, like.
Speaker 2: Maybe he did.
Speaker 6: I mean, no, it's you.
Speaker 7: Know what, it's always anytime I've lost, it's always on me,
Speaker 7: right always. I used to sit back and be like,
Speaker 7: all the game is rigged and all these things, what
Speaker 7: could you have done differently?
Speaker 6: You have to go back to the drawing board. You
Speaker 6: can't just keep pointing a finger like I was in that.
Speaker 7: I was in there chilling, thinking I was untouchable, and
Speaker 7: they was like Leon and Dario, I mean, Den, help, help.
Speaker 2: Help, all right, we have to take a quick break,
Speaker 2: but we'll be right back after this.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get back to the show.
Speaker 2: So is Devin still upset with Dario?
Speaker 6: No, I don't think I talked. I had talked to
Speaker 6: Devan the other day.
Speaker 7: I called him about something and Uh, I said, saying, yeah,
Speaker 7: something like that.
Speaker 6: But I don't think that you know that he cares,
Speaker 6: or nor does uh Dario.
Speaker 7: You know, I think that if it got brought up
Speaker 7: a conversation with me and they, they both probably be
Speaker 7: getting heated about it.
Speaker 6: But Devon a I can never take Devin serious.
Speaker 7: And so even when when Dario was going back and
Speaker 7: forth him like Devin could could never get me mad.
Speaker 6: He couldn't. There's nothing he could. He's funny, it just doesn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he does know how to He does know
Speaker 2: how to push other people's buttons. Though you have to
Speaker 2: like really just be fully invested.
Speaker 6: How do you let Devin?
Speaker 2: We watched Double Agents. He got a lot of people upset.
Speaker 7: Then then mentally you gotta check yourself because nothing can
Speaker 7: said if you letting this dude get under your skand
Speaker 7: and I mean it's respectfully.
Speaker 2: With the maths, it's funny, so funny, I mean it
Speaker 2: got funnier. It got funnier.
Speaker 7: I guess since my humor is like his, I'm like,
Speaker 7: I don't care what you talking about, bro, like whatever,
Speaker 7: So I only I only want good things for Devin man,
Speaker 7: Like Johnny used to get so upset with dev I
Speaker 7: don't even know. I don't know if they like each
Speaker 7: other now, whether they hate it. But it's the same
Speaker 7: thing with Johnny is like there's some joketures to me,
Speaker 7: like whatever. But yeah, Daria was hot because I think
Speaker 7: that Devin, you know, he can't say certain things, but
Speaker 7: he Devan's not about to sit there trying to fight you.
Speaker 6: No, that's not his intentions. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So No, but he'll get you.
Speaker 2: He'll get you where he needs to get you, Like,
Speaker 2: he'll wow you up if you let it.
Speaker 7: And we learned this shit back in grade school, Like
Speaker 7: you can't be letting nobody.
Speaker 6: Get you off like that. Yeah, but he's he's funny.
Speaker 6: He's funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine that he probably is still holding
Speaker 3: on a little bit of resentment. And if there's one
Speaker 3: thing true about Devin, like he's going to go on
Speaker 3: a bunch of rants after this season on podcast and
Speaker 3: Dragons grudge.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: He likes the hod, he likes the hold on it
Speaker 3: even he also likes to get even.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in real.
Speaker 7: Time, I feel bad on my half of like I
Speaker 7: lost it for us because he's looking at it.
Speaker 6: I mean, no, I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't think Devin is looking at me sideways. But
Speaker 7: I'm like, damn, bro, like it really was on account
Speaker 7: of me.
Speaker 3: But but why do you say that? Because he couldn't
Speaker 3: get us twenty three? But did Devin get his seventeen?
Speaker 3: Because I feel like did we No?
Speaker 7: No, no, no, I'm talking about even I'm talking about
Speaker 7: even with the voting process of like, how darn you was?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I need to you in You're
Speaker 2: twenty three?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's all good. So yeah, Devin was all about
Speaker 6: me getting my first win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he really was.
Speaker 7: Like He's like, man, I really want to see you
Speaker 7: get it. So it's just like, man, can't nobody tell
Speaker 7: me nothing bad.
Speaker 6: About him at all? Yep, but I agree with you.
Speaker 7: The vibe was with Amber and FEESSI, which really threw
Speaker 7: me through a loop because I'm like, damn, y'all know something.
Speaker 6: I ain't saying nothing. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 6: sleeping in the same day, they weren't even trying.
Speaker 7: To help us, And as the day went on, I
Speaker 7: just started to feeling like, yo, the whole house. I
Speaker 7: had a whole like pep probably with everybody like this
Speaker 7: is how voting's gonna go. Dave was in the corner
Speaker 7: like m mmmmmm, Roy, you cook.
Speaker 6: Roy.
Speaker 7: I'm like what, and Katie ironic and everybody said, okay,
Speaker 7: we got in there, everybody switched.
Speaker 6: They vot up because I told him like, don't vote for.
Speaker 2: Steve and Adam and Steve yeah.
Speaker 7: And they were like okay, okay cool. And as soon
Speaker 7: as we got in and they started doing it, I
Speaker 7: was like, Okay, I see what time it is.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean it is.
Speaker 3: It is crazy because they like if that essentially was
Speaker 3: the plan going around the house, and Daria maybe was
Speaker 3: just the person that you know it was heard from,
Speaker 3: but everybody wanted to see you guys go up against
Speaker 3: Steven Adam. Then it's like, yeah, everybody who voted for
Speaker 3: Adam and Steve essentially kind.
Speaker 1: Of was a part in this plan.
Speaker 3: And they were all like you and Veronica are close,
Speaker 3: like yeah and Veronica cool.
Speaker 7: But it's like I just I just get it. Veronica
Speaker 7: and Katy had they had their chances to win or.
Speaker 2: Slimming, they had to do what they had to do too,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: But I'm just thinking. I'm just thinking, if I was
Speaker 1: in his.
Speaker 3: Shoes and I just knew people knew the plan and
Speaker 3: they were still going along with it, well, then you're
Speaker 3: still you're you're going along with a plan.
Speaker 6: Well a Budha came back.
Speaker 7: If we would have came back into the house, it
Speaker 7: had been it had been bad for all of them.
Speaker 7: So if Steve Adam go back into the house, I
Speaker 7: don't know if it's bad for all of them because
Speaker 7: the're kind of like they kept going in so they
Speaker 7: had to take they.
Speaker 6: Had to take a shot. We was already them like
Speaker 6: halfway through.
Speaker 7: And what I've learned is after doing challenges and watching seasons,
Speaker 7: I'm on, you just had to put yourself in people's
Speaker 7: shoes and you just gotta just roll with how it
Speaker 7: goes right.
Speaker 6: You have to.
Speaker 7: I can't sit here and be I'm not about to
Speaker 7: go on no rant about nobody. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I felt like even when he threw you and Ashley, yeah,
Speaker 7: I was like that threw me through a loop.
Speaker 6: I was like, what that sounds crazy to me?
Speaker 2: And the people tried to let tell me that you
Speaker 2: guys were in on it. Or like you knew about it,
Speaker 2: And I was like, definitely are like my main people, Lisa,
Speaker 2: I'm working with them.
Speaker 6: They threw me through loop. I never how do I
Speaker 6: benefit from throwing you? Actually?
Speaker 4: Duh?
Speaker 2: Keep us around?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 7: Nothing yeah nothing, but not even that right Obviously, we
Speaker 7: felt like, hey, if it's physical, we will be at
Speaker 7: a beat yob right. But you guys are hell and smart,
Speaker 7: so it's not like we're just gonna dominate. Depends on
Speaker 7: what the elimination is.
Speaker 2: But we would have had them twenty threes. I would
Speaker 2: have had them twenty three.
Speaker 6: For Anissa, you would have been screaming, help, Help, help.
Speaker 8: By bye bye wall I was just like even me
Speaker 8: and had to vote in Sylvia and Kelly Ann.
Speaker 7: How if it made me feel awkward because I don't
Speaker 7: got no beef for these girls. I try to say,
Speaker 7: like I tried to say like good luck to Sylvia.
Speaker 7: She's like, get the funk away from me. Yeah, she
Speaker 7: was pissed.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's like that bad. Oh you
Speaker 2: just decided to cut out on us. Bye bye.
Speaker 7: I gotta I gotta answer this go ahead because it's
Speaker 7: cam Hold on tour.
Speaker 2: Do you know Kingston can count in Spanish. No way,
Speaker 2: he's so smart.
Speaker 6: He's smart to get him camp. He's so smart.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good quality, right, She's really smart.
Speaker 6: Yeah. He thick. He thick too.
Speaker 7: I feed him Old Mill every day. He's stocking thick.
Speaker 7: Got him lifting weights in the corner. I bought these
Speaker 7: little baby weights.
Speaker 2: Really, she's amazing. Wait, didn't he to push ups when
Speaker 2: I saw him?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's like, come on, day let's do push ups. Oh?
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 6: I think he had he had daycare. Right now, I'm like,
Speaker 6: what do you want to do again? I just want
Speaker 6: to sit on the couch and watch trucks. My boystructs
Speaker 6: all day long.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you are you ready to get back into it?
Speaker 2: Are you good?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I'm back?
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: Well, I know we've gotten into a lot of the
Speaker 3: elimination and a lot of the drama, but like, I
Speaker 3: think we just need to touch on the daily challenge for.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 3: What was your thoughts on that smoothie in comparison to
Speaker 3: other eating challenges?
Speaker 1: And also like, how do you think.
Speaker 3: You and Devin did as a team.
Speaker 7: I completely crap the bed on that, uh that challenge
Speaker 7: because when they start asking though personal questions are like
Speaker 7: about like who's the weakest. I didn't want to say
Speaker 7: certain people, right, So I was like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 7: say nothing at all. I'm gonna just say whatever. And
Speaker 7: I think people would have taken it personal, right, You're
Speaker 7: calling somebody weak regardless of whether it's just part of
Speaker 7: the game.
Speaker 6: Like I'm like, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 7: So and Devin's like, come on, man, we gotta you know,
Speaker 7: see the same thing. So he's like, hey, who's the
Speaker 7: what team is the most likely to be liars. I
Speaker 7: was like, I'm gonna just say us. I'm looking at
Speaker 7: this smoothie. I'm looking at the stuff that we got
Speaker 7: to put in there. As at one point in a
Speaker 7: challenge in Double Age, we had to eat a Rams testicle.
Speaker 6: Y'all remember that.
Speaker 1: I never did killed that.
Speaker 2: I was in the cage and I was like, I
Speaker 2: was meaning, I said, goalie, Roy Goes.
Speaker 7: I watched you either you want to be the rat
Speaker 7: head on thirty thirty. You want some real eating challenge.
Speaker 7: So you're talking about a milkshake catch up mayonnaise, which
Speaker 7: the mayonnaise is the one that threw me off.
Speaker 6: I was like, hell nah, I'd rather go in and
Speaker 6: do this. But I'm looking at p I was like,
Speaker 6: hell not. When I see the mayonnaise, I was.
Speaker 2: Like, wait, what's the base of the milkshake? Was it
Speaker 2: an actual milkshake?
Speaker 6: It was a it was regular for another milkshake.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's not as bad.
Speaker 7: So I'm going off of everything I've been through, and
Speaker 7: all I gotta do is throw a couple of condiments
Speaker 7: on there. I'm about to smoke y'all, and.
Speaker 6: Also whether I get these ashes right or wrong, like
Speaker 6: y'all cooked.
Speaker 7: But the how it worked was if you said check
Speaker 7: and then you still have some left your straw and
Speaker 7: it went down to see your cup. That's how That's
Speaker 7: how people were losing because you don't say check it
Speaker 7: till you got it all out. And so what happened
Speaker 7: with people will SA check because they don't see it
Speaker 7: in their cup, and then they would.
Speaker 6: Come down out of the straw.
Speaker 2: Wow, how did it taste? How's that Durian?
Speaker 6: I didn't. I didn't have durry any mine.
Speaker 2: Could you smell it when it was in front of you?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 7: I kept So what happened was Turbo doesn't know any better.
Speaker 7: He smelled it when it was sitting there. And the
Speaker 7: lepped him up. He was like, oh my god. He
Speaker 7: like he was scared to do the challenge really, and
Speaker 7: I was like, bro, yeah, he didn't want to do it.
Speaker 7: He was like, man, this is terrible.
Speaker 2: This man isn't scared of anything. He was like, my brother.
Speaker 6: I love Turbo. When on my way home from UH Vietnam,
Speaker 6: I had I got l in Turkey. I got free
Speaker 6: food at the airport. I was like, I know Turboll.
Speaker 2: Do people know him there?
Speaker 7: Turbo told me on this season of All Stars, he said, Lee, Ray,
Speaker 7: I'm telling you I'm a god out there, he said.
Speaker 7: He said, if you go anywhere and say my name,
Speaker 7: I'm talking about all through security. Because they were trying
Speaker 7: to take some stuff off my clipper back. I was like, like,
Speaker 7: you know, to Robbie. They looking at me like how
Speaker 7: he know him? I'm showing them pictures.
Speaker 3: Want come on, God, no, wait, that's amazing.
Speaker 7: At the at the airport, it was someplace I can't
Speaker 7: think of it. What's the salt bait whatever the case would be.
Speaker 7: The restaurant that was inside the airport in Turkey. I'm
Speaker 7: sitting there eating. I let me just I was. I
Speaker 7: wasn't trying to get a free mail. But once I
Speaker 7: told him that and started showing them that I know him.
Speaker 2: No, Tory, We're going to Turkey. Turbo Rabbie were coming
Speaker 2: to Turkey.
Speaker 6: Turbo.
Speaker 1: I think I'm on his pussy chicken list now, so
Speaker 1: I don't know who he can go.
Speaker 2: To a Turkey I'm not. I'm not a pussy chicken. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's good Turbo.
Speaker 6: Turbo for the whole season thought Sam was a dude.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the whole thing. He was like my brothers.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he kept he kept saying, and so everybody he
Speaker 7: looked up. I said, I'm gonna go tell Turbo, said
Speaker 7: Turbo man, like, you know Sam, he's like here. I
Speaker 7: was like, that's a woman. He said what So, yeah,
Speaker 7: he's feel so he wanted to go apologize, but then
Speaker 7: were we well.
Speaker 3: He also thought that Turbo also thought that his astrology
Speaker 3: sign was a gal illness to.
Speaker 6: The hospital blood work.
Speaker 8: That baby, he's funny.
Speaker 7: The milkshake was was easy again? Was that, you know,
Speaker 7: asking questions. I don't know why I didn't think to
Speaker 7: like ask questions about all these different things, but it
Speaker 7: didn't matter to me if you to put fucking dog
Speaker 7: dood to one that damn uh smoothie.
Speaker 2: Don't play and don't give them any fucking ideas. Dog relax,
Speaker 2: take take that out that you know, jump the booth.
Speaker 2: We like, well, you said you wanted dog ship.
Speaker 6: You know what? Brother? Uh so, yeah it was, it
Speaker 6: was it was fair, It was fairly easy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I made for good television.
Speaker 6: Though, Yeah it did.
Speaker 7: I mean I knew for the fact that we got
Speaker 7: it down pretty quickly, so you know when they looked
Speaker 7: at it, But no part of me felt like I
Speaker 7: was going in.
Speaker 2: You didn't get that stomach feeling, that intuition, no, when you.
Speaker 7: Know like that, because I didn't say nothing crazy about
Speaker 7: them during the challenge, right, there was a lot of
Speaker 7: people calling them weak and ugly whatever.
Speaker 6: So and then the right then the conversation that we
Speaker 6: had in the room.
Speaker 3: I'm just he was the ugliest challenger, the ugliest challenger here.
Speaker 2: I would be so fucked.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: Frank was in our room chilling with him, like talking
Speaker 7: to Devin or whatever, and like, Sam, I don't cut
Speaker 7: her hair. Like so I'm thinking that's why I'm not
Speaker 7: cutting hair no more, because it don't matter, right, that
Speaker 7: don't matter. It's not like Hey, you cut my hair.
Speaker 7: They don't care any chance somebody get to get your
Speaker 7: eyes out that game.
Speaker 6: You're gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, stop cutting hairly Roy, that's why you stopped. Must
Speaker 2: keep lining yourself up really well and be like my
Speaker 2: clippers broke after I done.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to do that. I'm just telling him no, right, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm grown. I ain't gotta lie. You don't what about no.
Speaker 2: Bro, don't have to help help help shirt On?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3: I mean, you alluded to the fact that you had
Speaker 3: no idea that you were going to be sent into
Speaker 3: elimination after that challenge, But at some point in time
Speaker 3: you had to have known or did you find out?
Speaker 1: Literally on the stage when Sam and they told.
Speaker 7: Us, they came and end up telling us, And it's like,
Speaker 7: so when I when we had to sit down with
Speaker 7: Frank and Sam, I was that's the part of the
Speaker 7: angers I've been throughout the whole season because it was
Speaker 7: just like the way he was talking just was just
Speaker 7: pissing me off. And I'm like, what, Bro, Like, we've
Speaker 7: been looking out for you, granted obviously, yeah, we have
Speaker 7: been looking at it.
Speaker 6: We could have we could have threw you in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I think I think that like Frank's delivery to
Speaker 7: me just didn't sit right with me.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 7: It wasn't like nice, like hey man, sorry guys. You know,
Speaker 7: I know we said whatever, it's for the game. I
Speaker 7: can accept that. It was just kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm doing you know, Frank could be I'm like, man, hell,
Speaker 7: Sam was just sitting there. She didn't have nothing to say,
Speaker 7: so that that kind of upset me. But for them,
Speaker 7: I don't have no issues with Frank and nothing.
Speaker 6: He's cool. But you know when you when somebody voted
Speaker 6: me in, you're like, oh, it's steam. Yeah it does,
Speaker 6: especially after I felt like we looked out for you.
Speaker 2: But you handled it really well. It wasn't like thirty
Speaker 2: thirty when you all of a sudden the burn votes
Speaker 2: and then you got you had to go in. But like,
Speaker 2: it's I just think it could take it a little
Speaker 2: bit better. But how do you feel like when you
Speaker 2: went back in to the house when you had your
Speaker 2: little fifteen minutes, which I love that they brought that back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I never even know used to do that.
Speaker 2: Oh they would give you all night.
Speaker 6: What and party all night?
Speaker 2: You pack get fucked up?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that it was crazy. I
Speaker 7: wasn't like I said, I wasn't. I felt like you played.
Speaker 6: Out how it should low key.
Speaker 7: I was actually like happy for the other teams that
Speaker 7: were there right like it was. They were able to
Speaker 7: make like Sam first time being back, they were able
Speaker 7: to make a big game move. If I can't, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I wasn't. I'm like, it sucked, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 7: But what am I going to do? Like, you know,
Speaker 7: I really wanted to see Stephen, Adam Win or Nanny, right,
Speaker 7: those are the people who I really wanted to see
Speaker 7: get it.
Speaker 6: Becuse Steven Adam have been through.
Speaker 7: So much and I was telling Adam, I was like, man,
Speaker 7: make sure you put your daughter's names on your arms
Speaker 7: when you go into the elimination round so they could
Speaker 7: see their daddy or whatever. But yeah, I feel like
Speaker 7: it was it was a big moment, open up the
Speaker 7: game for everybody else. If I can't get it, you know,
Speaker 7: hopefully everybody.
Speaker 6: Else could get it.
Speaker 7: That's just how the game goes. But going going back
Speaker 7: into the house, I wasn't tripping at all.
Speaker 6: I wanted.
Speaker 7: When I got home, I called Dario's brother, I'm your brother,
Speaker 7: did He was like, what He was confused because I
Speaker 7: know I'm trying to tell him what happened. He's like
Speaker 7: what and uh, but yeah, it wasn't It wasn't nothing.
Speaker 2: M So who are you rooting for?
Speaker 6: Now? I've seen Nanny always. I want to see Nanny
Speaker 6: just do well in life? Hereod it? Right?
Speaker 7: Nanni and Turbo first, and then Steven Adam and everybody
Speaker 7: else you know, you.
Speaker 6: Know, good luck.
Speaker 7: But I really would like to see Stephen Adam because
Speaker 7: I've never been in a position where I've got I
Speaker 7: never get thrown in, right, this is like that. It's
Speaker 7: only been a handful of This might be the first
Speaker 7: time somebody actually like said my name and wanted me
Speaker 7: to go in. Normally it is either off a burn
Speaker 7: vote or come in last place. I've never been like,
Speaker 7: you know, voted in by a team or whatever, so
Speaker 7: that I can remember.
Speaker 6: But they I lost my train of thought. Would you say?
Speaker 2: Who are you ready for?
Speaker 6: I told you a Vegas?
Speaker 2: Shut up. You can't just now blame Vegas decades later.
Speaker 6: That's what happened.
Speaker 2: It's Vegas. I'm like, LERA, got nothing to do with
Speaker 2: this challenge. Sorry, it's Vegas.
Speaker 6: What'd you say? You want to watch again Toy Story.
Speaker 6: He's like tracks bad.
Speaker 2: Vegas.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would to see Stephen Adam like watching him
Speaker 7: go in time bout the time.
Speaker 6: I actually start to feel a bad form because there was.
Speaker 7: Nothing they could do, because Adam would come to me
Speaker 7: like Adam's like when Adam speaks, it's kind of like
Speaker 7: he's he's been in therapy before, because he's like the
Speaker 7: way he'll speak is like healed and all right, guys
Speaker 7: like I'm gonna let you you had your chance to
Speaker 7: talk would piss me off. I don't like talking to
Speaker 7: people who here. I want to talk to somebody who's
Speaker 7: been through some ship. And because when people go to
Speaker 7: therapy they know it's like I want peace and when
Speaker 7: everybody be happy, and you'd be like, no, I want
Speaker 7: to fight. When he had when he was talking to Corey,
Speaker 7: He's like, listen, blah blah blah was better And it's
Speaker 7: just like Adam would definitely kill you with kindness or whatever.
Speaker 6: I just want everybody to be together and hold hands.
Speaker 6: I'm like, man, fuck that ship. Bro. I told him.
Speaker 7: I told him, I said, there's nothing you could do, Bro,
Speaker 7: You're gonna keep going in And he was just kind
Speaker 7: of puzzled, like he thought that there was a way
Speaker 7: that he could rally himself.
Speaker 2: Out of it.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, no, man, you cook bro, And they
Speaker 7: had him and Steve hadn't been in the game in
Speaker 7: like years like they did All Stars For, but like
Speaker 7: this was something new for them.
Speaker 6: So I felt bad about it. And that's a tough
Speaker 6: road to keep going in. Yeah, but they kept winning.
Speaker 3: I mean and you saw you saw Steve on All
Speaker 3: Starts For he went in a lot, yeah, and he
Speaker 3: was good and it was good final.
Speaker 6: So it's like I gave I gave Steve my star. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember, I'm always.
Speaker 6: Likely if I talked to Steve outside of this so
Speaker 6: because I want to see him do good.
Speaker 7: Davon and Shane, yeah, but more more importantly like Nannie
Speaker 7: and Turbo or Adam and Stevens who I want to
Speaker 7: get it.
Speaker 2: So you have retired before you're clearly out of retirement.
Speaker 2: We love that. I think, do we see like baby
Speaker 2: number three or are we going or are we like
Speaker 2: maybe maybe do another show?
Speaker 7: Well Cam always says it's too She was like, if
Speaker 7: you are if you aren't like protecting yourself having sex right,
Speaker 7: doing the things are taking Bird patrol. Then you must
Speaker 7: be trying to have a kid. She's just like, so
Speaker 7: if we keep playing Russian roulette, Hell, yeah, baby number three,
Speaker 7: But we.
Speaker 6: Don't want to. I'm shooting off the club everybody. You
Speaker 6: know what?
Speaker 7: And Lisa, that's the analogy when that when we be
Speaker 7: in there, I'm like, hell, trying to hold on for
Speaker 7: dear life. Imagine that face over here trying to get
Speaker 7: her off and get off.
Speaker 2: You'll do another show? Okay, perfect, So.
Speaker 7: We don't we don't want any more. We don't want
Speaker 7: any more babies. We don't want any more kids. To
Speaker 7: be cool with that. And as far as shows, you,
Speaker 7: I would like to see Cam do one before me,
Speaker 7: but she's just now about to wrap up with breastfeeding
Speaker 7: and she wants to get her body and shape again
Speaker 7: or whatever all these different things.
Speaker 6: So you know, I guess it'll be on my shoulders
Speaker 6: to be able to leave and go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like a good tease, Like I feel
Speaker 3: like that that means that we can see you in
Speaker 3: the Futurely, I'm excited.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, I ain't gonna teach you. I'm straight up
Speaker 7: when you say kids. Absolutely not for seeing me on
Speaker 7: the show. Yes, because of the kids, I'm going out
Speaker 7: of here.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Well, it's always a pleasure to talk to you, Leroy.
Speaker 1: You're fucking hilarious.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for making this podcast thoroughly enjoyable
Speaker 3: and entertaining and it gets so fun, so fun. We
Speaker 3: look forward to seeing you in the future, hopefully on
Speaker 3: another challenge. But before that, where can people follow you
Speaker 3: on social media or how can they support any outside
Speaker 3: projects you have going on?
Speaker 6: Well, if you really want to follow me, I spent
Speaker 6: a lot of time at a Target.
Speaker 7: So you could get follow me home and find out
Speaker 7: where I live.
Speaker 6: You're in the city of the chart. I hang out
Speaker 6: a Target a lot, so you really want to know
Speaker 6: where I live? Just follow to get.
Speaker 2: Away from the kids. You just pretend you have to
Speaker 2: run an Erron. Just walk around Target followed behind.
Speaker 6: The ninety four Ford Escort. You will find me parts.
Speaker 2: Not ninety four because you still have to roll down
Speaker 2: the windows manually when people.
Speaker 7: When people see me in that like damn, you really
Speaker 7: need to get a win. I'm like, hey, cars paid for.
Speaker 2: Oh it's so good.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: You can follow me on Instagram at Royally the Barber
Speaker 7: won't be doing a lot of cutting hair on there,
Speaker 7: but that's what my Instagram name is. And as I
Speaker 7: said on TikTok, which TikTok is back now right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna start uploading on I am really the barber
Speaker 7: and uh yeah, if you, like I said, you really
Speaker 7: want to follow me, catch me outside of Walmart or
Speaker 7: Target in that ninety four.
Speaker 3: Awesome all of the all of the stalkers have taken notes.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thanks so much.
Speaker 6: Lee.
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure and we'll talk to you so hopefully.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you, help help, help, help, help God.
Speaker 2: That was such a good interview with Leroy. He is
Speaker 2: always funny. I don't know where he comes up with
Speaker 2: this stuff, but I promise you it is he never
Speaker 2: he never misses the mark.
Speaker 3: And it's so sad because now the two funniest people
Speaker 3: on Challenge All Stars aside from you, definite Leroy, they're
Speaker 3: pairing together. Was so hilarious and now they're gone. So
Speaker 3: I know, it's a sad day on All Stars.
Speaker 2: But it's okay. I'm sure we will see them in
Speaker 2: the future.
Speaker 3: Yes, And Anissa, speaking about seeing people in the future,
Speaker 3: where can we find you on your future posts on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Wow, Tory, funny you asked me that in such a
Speaker 2: nonchalant way you can find me and it Meisa, MTV.
Speaker 2: That's a n E E SA MTV and Tory. Where
Speaker 2: can they find you saying you love, buy your books
Speaker 2: and support you.
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 2: Thanks Anissa.
Speaker 3: You guys can send me love and buy my books
Speaker 3: all through my Instagram channel if you click the link
Speaker 3: in my buyo Tory Underscore deal on Instagram.
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