1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Welcome and everybody to a Tuesday night edition of Texans 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: All Access. Man, it's taken a while to say those words. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: I work out the King said a chance to do 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: last night with Mark in studio and I'm your host. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: This evenig Mark not able to join us tonight. That's okay. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: In fact, we sort of like it when we lock 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: the proverbial state radio studio door and let him out 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: of it and have Drew Doherty and dpcdo in it 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: and it's the three of us. What's going on, guys? 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: How are we doing doing great? How are you been? Man? Well, 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: I get to see you guys on zoom every so often, 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't get to see you in person, which kind 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: of stinks because DP and I always get caught up 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: on all the shows we're watching, all the different things 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: that are going all different things DP and I always have. 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: I just learned yesterday that Johnny has been watching Real 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: Housewives of Salt Lake City, and I'm really mad that 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: we have not been talking about this for the last 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: few months. Yeah, and The Bachelor. I mean, there's a 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: lot to catch up with in the offseason. Johnny, You're exactly, 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: and so we need to somehow return back to normalcy. 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: So we do that. And my one word response to 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: you when you said something about Real Housewives the Soul 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: Lake City, my response is like, of course I've watching. Yes, 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely watching. There's no question about that. All Right, 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk in just a minute about David Culley. 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: But Drew, you had an opportunity to speak with Brian Mitchell, 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: a brout David Culley, and I know you having spent 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: time with Mitchell. If you remember Mitchell, if you're I 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: don't want to say my age demographic, maybe a little 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: bit younger, but Brian Mitchell was one heck of a 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: player in the NFL for a long time and played 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: for David Culley and Drew, i'mning an interview that you 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: did with Brian Mitchell later in the show, but let's 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: start there. David Culley named the head coach, only the 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: fourth head coach in the history of the franchise. And 37 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: you both have spent a lot of time. Do I 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: know you talked with Jeff's reback from the Atlantic from 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: the Athletic who covered him with the Ravens. We'll probably 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: have that later in the week, but Drew, I'll start 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: with you because you talked to Brian Mitchell. What was 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: the main thing you were able to sort of gauge 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: out of your conversation with Brian about David Culley taking 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: over as the head coach to Houston, Texas. The main thing. Yeah, 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: he's a nice guy. Yeah, he's a major influence in 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: so many guys' lives. But he also knows a hell 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: of a lot of football, is very innovative, has a 48 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: great football mind, and that should not be discounted. Now, 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: let's rewind a little bit. Brian Mitchell, like you kind 50 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: of touched on, he was great in the nineties, so 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: when he retired and still to this day, the only 52 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: guy with more all purpose yardage in NFL history is 53 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice and Mitchell got most of his yards on 54 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: kickoff and punt returns. He was an All Pro one season. 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: He was on that final Washington or the last Washington 56 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: team to win a Super Bowl in nineteen ninety one 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: when they beat the Bills. You know, he played four Washington. 58 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Right out of college, he was at Southwestern Louisiana which 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: is now you know, the University of Louisiana, and that's 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: where Cully was his coach. Recruited him. There was his 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. Brian Mitchell did not return a single kick 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: or punt in his time in college. He was a 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: quarterback through for a combined five thousand yards, ran for 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: a combined three thousand more. He likes to say he was, 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson before they were 66 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: who they became. But he did that went into the NFL. 67 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: He said he wouldn't have been there were it not 68 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: for David Culley. Talked about how he made him a 69 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: better passer, you know, helped him understand defenses and offenses. 70 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: But the big thing that he taught Brian Mitchell was 71 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: film study and self film study. So he found all 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: the ticks that were giving defense his clues when he 73 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: was in college, and he corrected him no tells from 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: Brian Mitchell as a quarterback when he was in college, 75 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: and so on and so on, and said when he 76 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: got to the NFL, there was some old he called it, 77 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: I think he called him old heads who saw him 78 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: studying tape and they were like, oh, you know what 79 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: you're doing. He's like, yeah, you know this guy back 80 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: in college, David Culley sort of showed me how to 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: do it. So Mitchell lasted in the NFL until about 82 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Two thousand and four, he spent 83 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: some time with the Giants, played with the Eagles after 84 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: the Redskins, and he was back reunited with David Culley. 85 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: That was in the early part of the two thousands. 86 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Cully was one of Andy Reid's assistants there. So he 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: just he got to play for him in college, got 88 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: to play for him in the pros. He loves him. 89 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: He says he's going to come back to a lot 90 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: of Texans games to see him. But he made the 91 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: point also that you know, Andy Reid and his offense 92 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: has been very very successful over the years, didn't go 93 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: the way it wanted or they wanted it too on Sunday. 94 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: But I think that was kind of an aberration in 95 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: credit to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But I don't think 96 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: that happens if those two teams played ten times. I 97 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: don't think that happens six seven times again. But Andy 98 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: Reid's offense has been very, very successful for decades now, 99 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: and Mitchell made the point, Andy Reid's gonna be the 100 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: first to tell you that that's taking the input of 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: so many different folks that have coached under him and 102 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: coached with him over the year, and David Culley is 103 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: one of them. So a lot of the wrinkles you 104 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: see responsible by David Culley and you know, contributed by 105 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: David Culley. So he's very, very high on what Cully 106 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: can do is a leader, what he can do as 107 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: an offensive mind, and the guys that he's gonna bring 108 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: in underneath him, because he said Andy Reid gives those 109 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: guys a lot of autonomy, gives those guys a lot 110 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: of freedom, and he thinks you're going to see a 111 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: lot of that from David Culley. And we've heard the 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: reports about who's coming in assistant coaches wise, so it's 113 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting bag of folks that will be 114 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: here helping to leave the Texas. You know, it's interesting. 115 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: Andy Reid's coaching tree continues to grow. I mean, with 116 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: David Culley now taking over. We know one day Eric 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: Bienemy will be a head coach in the league at 118 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: some point. He wasn't and will not be in twenty 119 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: twenty one, at least not at this point, but he's 120 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: going to be in the league. His tree is just growing. 121 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: By leaps and bounds. Now, David Culley last year and 122 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: I think a few years prior. And again this is 123 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 1: kind of the the Andy Reid connection because John Harbaugh 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: used to be a special team's coach with the Eagles 125 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: where David Cully was. Colly was the watersheevers coach, a 126 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: pass game coordinator with the Baltimore Ravens and dep That's 127 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: where you caught up with Jeff Shreebeck of the Athletic 128 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: who we talked to and you talked too often when 129 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: we play the Ravens. He is fantastic writer, he's great 130 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: on the radio. What was the sense you got from 131 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Jeff about what the Texans were getting with David Culley. Yeah, 132 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: you're right, actually, Johnny, because I spoke to Jeff right 133 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: before the Week two matchup against the Ravens, and one 134 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: of the questions I asked him before Week two was 135 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: about Marquis Hollywood Brown and his development because as a 136 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: rookie he set all sorts of records. He set touchdown 137 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: records for the for the Ravens franchise and receiving touchdowns, 138 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of people expected a big jump for 139 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: him from year one to year two. And you know, 140 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: I asked him how much of that, uh, you know, 141 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: where do you place Cully in Hollywood Brown's development and 142 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: he and he said, he's definitely a part of it 143 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: because you know Collie obviously being a part of that 144 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver's corps, being the wide receivers coach. Um, you know, 145 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: he had to coach him up as a rookie and 146 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: he and the thing that Jeff noted about Collie that 147 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: was interesting was just he said, you know, just watching 148 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: his interactions with the players out in the practice field. 149 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: And you know, once upon a time we were we 150 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: were allowed out of the practice field every single day 151 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: to watch coaches and players interact. So um, it seems 152 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: like a long time ago. And you know, obviously Colly's 153 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: not been with the Ravens that long before he came here. 154 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: But he said, you know, just watching and he said 155 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: in training camp, they used to practice really early in 156 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: the mornings, and he said, the one thing I noticed 157 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: was Colly was like the first coach out there. He's 158 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: like you could hear him before you could even see him, 159 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: because he was out there. He was talking to guys, 160 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: he was coaching them up, really interactive with the players 161 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: and really involved very hands on and being a coach 162 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: and being a teacher and talking to those guys. He said, 163 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: his work ethic is second to none. He said, John 164 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: Harball had a lot of high praise for Collie when 165 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: he even came in, that this guy could be a 166 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: head coach somewhere. And he said, there was a day 167 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: when Harball couldn't do a press availability. You know, you 168 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: know after practice every day that the head coach comes 169 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: to the podium, and he said it was a day 170 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: that was something significant and happened like Lamar Jackson hadn't practice, 171 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: so there were going to be a lot of questions 172 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: from the media that day, and you know, he and 173 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: Jeff said, he was I was actually thinking, Wow, this 174 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: this poor guy, David Kelly's going to have to deal 175 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: with a lot of questions today. It's an unfortunate day 176 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: for him to be taking these. And he said he 177 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: really just you know, he handled himself like a pro. 178 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: He answered all the questions. Could not have been better 179 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: with the media, couldn't have been better at handling the 180 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: situation and the questions. He said, he just really carried 181 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: himself like he could have been a head coach one day. 182 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: So he said, that's sort of the off the field 183 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: stuff that he had noticed. You know, obviously the Ravens 184 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: aren't known for passing the ball a ton. They're they're 185 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: a running team. But he said, you know, their receivers 186 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: are asked to do a lot. They're asked to block, 187 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: They're asked to do a lot of things that wide 188 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: receivers typically aren't allowed to do it. And that's where 189 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: Collie had to come in and really teach those wide 190 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: receivers that, hey, this is now part of your job function. 191 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: These are now added to your job duties. You're gonna 192 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: be blocking, you know, I'll be catching the ball at toime, 193 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: but this is what you got to do to make 194 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: this offense go. And that's sort of where Callie fit 195 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: into that whole Raven scheme. But you know, I wrote 196 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: a story about um that along with he had told 197 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: an interesting story about Hollywood Brown to Drew, and I 198 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: sort of pieced it all together because he was telling 199 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: Drew a story and maybe Drew you can jump in 200 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: here about you know, a game against the Browns were 201 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: where he calls him Marquise Brown. He said he's not 202 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: Hollywood to meet because he hasn't hasn't been in the 203 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: league along him, So he's Marquis Brown. Yeah, he's Marquise 204 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: to me. So he said Marquise had had a couple 205 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: of big drops in the game against the Browns. It 206 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: was a big game, and he said they were drops 207 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: for first down too, So clearly it had gotten in 208 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: his head. He was sort of slumping on the sidelines, 209 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: just not really into it, and he said, you know, 210 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: our job is to tell these guys, you know, when 211 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: something bad happens in a game like you, this is 212 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: not the time to deal with that. This is not 213 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: the time for me to have to be yelling at 214 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: you about or dealing with it. We will deal with 215 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: it tomorrow. But guess what, there is still a chance 216 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: for you to get back in this game and win 217 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: the game, and you could be making a play that 218 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: could that could turn everything around. So you've got to 219 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: get your head back into this game right now and 220 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: forget about all that. And he said, sure enough. Later 221 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: on in the game, Marquise caught a touchdown from Lamar 222 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: Jackson because Lamar had come in and out of the game, 223 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: and that tied it up in regulation. Game eventually went 224 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: into overtime. The Ravens still won. They still had another 225 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: they had another big play from another player at the 226 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: end of the game. But I thought that was his 227 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: approach to coaching up guys on the sideline, and he 228 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: obviously he's been through a lot. He reminds me a 229 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: lot of sort of Romeo's approach to players, you know, 230 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,479 Speaker 1: how to coach them up and to keep their head positive, 231 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: deal with the negative after the fact, but in a 232 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: game like where their head needs to be, he was. 233 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: He was very focused on that. I thought that was 234 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: a really telling story that he told Drew. You know, 235 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: I think to add on to all of this. You know, 236 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: I've talked about how you know, he's got his football 237 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: acumen deep. He just pointed out, you know, the coaching 238 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: aspect as far as not not getting down on young guys, 239 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: not establishing doghouses, which we've seen around here. I think 240 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: another thing to remember is any adversity that Cully's gonna 241 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: encounter this year, next year, or really just kind of 242 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: in the world, probably gonna be rolling off his back, 243 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: because remember what this guy's been and where where he's 244 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: what he's done. He was the first black quarterback at 245 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt in the early nineteen seventies world is a much 246 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: much different place than it is now. I mean everyone 247 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: knows that, but just rewind to those days. You were 248 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: a baby, John, you weren't even born. I think when 249 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: he was dpu, I wasn't. I was not I was 250 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: a lady John Dpure. You know, Uh, it was a 251 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: much different time. And so I think he probably giggles 252 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: internally at some of the problems that the problems that 253 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: that he might encounter that folks think are are big 254 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: deals right now. And I think that's something to always 255 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: remember because he's been through so much, he's seen so 256 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: much show and I know not a lot of people 257 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: want to hear that right now, but I think it's 258 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: it's something that it's, uh, you can't put a number 259 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: or a price on that intestinal fortitude that he probably has. 260 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: I think he most certainly has. Yeah, I think perspective, 261 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: he's he's a lot of perspective's exactly coach under a 262 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: lot of different coaches. He's seen a lot of different players, 263 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: and I think the more that we've been in this 264 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: league doing our jobs, I mean, I think he realized 265 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: that that experience, like you know, everyone's pushing towards younger 266 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: and smarter and faster coaches that are you know, creative, 267 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: and that's that has its place, But there's also a 268 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: place for a guy that's just seen a lot and 269 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: been through a lot, and I think there's a certain 270 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: comfort in that, especially when a team goes through adversity 271 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: or goes through losses that you know, hey, we've I 272 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: saw this back with this team or with this particular player. Um, 273 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: this is how we dealt with it. This is how 274 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: we can deal with it moving on. I mean, I 275 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: think Collie certainly brings out with all the coaching experience 276 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: that he brings, and I think there is some creativity there. Yeah, 277 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: you don't. It's harder to I'm right when it's an 278 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: assistant coach, But I think there is some creativity there. 279 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: Like just think I know that that's a running offense 280 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: that he's coming from with Baltimore, and everyone's or not everyone, 281 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: but some people have banged on the fact that, oh, 282 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: it's the worst passing offense in the NFL. Well, if 283 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: it was that bad, how did they win twenty five 284 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: games combine the last two years. I mean, yeah, there's 285 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: there's circumstances that you've got to take into account to 286 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: every to every situation. And I've heard that that ore. 287 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, come on, it was that awful, But 288 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: wouldn't have held them back? Would they be able to 289 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: win twenty five games if it was that horrible rights offense? Yeah? 290 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, I love that story you tell about about 291 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: Marquis Brown. It's funny because I called Marquis too. I 292 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 1: don't like call him high. I know, it's weird. That 293 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: was that was That's why I said Hollywood and yeah, yeah, 294 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: I call him Marquis. Um. Yeah, that is a that 295 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: is a very honestly where it's old school, but that 296 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: I that's a that's a coaches thing too. That is 297 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: an absolute coaches thing that you know, oh you'll earn 298 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: your nickname or whatever the case might be. But I said, 299 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: just so the listeners the viewers, could you know, I 300 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: don't know that everyone knows that Hollywood Brown's first name 301 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: is Marquis. Yeah, and make sure everyone got covered. I like, 302 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: I like the point that you guys made about adversity, 303 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: because that's that's one of the things that I I 304 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: often I often point to with players that have been 305 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: successful players and coaches and just everybody, but players and coaches, 306 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: where have they faced adversity? And once you face adversity, 307 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: how are you going to deal with it? And one 308 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: of the people, I don't know why this name comes 309 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: to mind, but one of the people I thought about 310 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago twenty nineteen, after twenty nineteen 311 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: with Sean McVeigh, because Sean McVay had been as vunderkin 312 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: who coaching, you know, everything came easy. He just went 313 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: from one he's a head coach in LA at the 314 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: age of thirty two, and he's just everywhere, he's everything, 315 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: everything's going great, and they lose the Super Bowl. It 316 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: really was kind of the first time that for the 317 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: first time that his coaching acumen, if you will, had 318 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: kind of taken a kick to the backside. So, all right, 319 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: how are you going to react? In twenty nineteen, you're like, oh, yeah, look, 320 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: see adversity not making that guy better. But then they 321 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: turn around at twenty twenty. He makes some changes on 322 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: the staff. He brings this guy named Brandon Staley to 323 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: be his defensive coordinator. That makes some changes, and the 324 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: Rams are in the playoffs and get to the divisional 325 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: round and if they can make one play in the 326 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: snow who knows what they do against the Green Bay Packers. 327 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: But I thought that was a great lesson for him 328 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: in dealing with adversity and how he's bounced back. And 329 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned that David Culley has dealt with it, and 330 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, everybody seemingly has a connection, and I have 331 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: one with him and Drew. And now you talked about 332 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: this on in the lab and it's got my name 333 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: of George McIntyre, the late coach from Vanderbilt who did 334 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: not was not the head coach at Vanderbilt when David 335 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: was there, but he was an assistant coach who was 336 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: on the staff while David was in college. A couple 337 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: of years after David had graduated, his first year out, 338 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: he went to Austin PE's wide receivers coach Well. The 339 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: next year, coach mac took over his dead coach at 340 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt and over the next four years through well he 341 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: was there for seven, but over the next three years 342 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: with David Culley, they built and built and built. That 343 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: program was two and nine for the three years that 344 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: both of them were gone, came back and they built 345 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: it to a point where by year four, even though 346 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: you're four, David Culley gone on to a different job, 347 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: and I think he had gone to Southwest Louisiana University 348 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: of Louisiana. I think that was the job he went 349 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: to next. But either way, Vanderman went to a bowl game, 350 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: and that was an amazing sequence for them to go 351 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: to a bowl game. And I bring up George McIntyre 352 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: because George McIntyre was the very first coaching mentor I 353 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: had when I came out of Brown, I went down 354 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: to Episcopal. Coach was from Jacksonville and he had retired 355 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: from coaching for a while. He'd been out of coaching 356 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: for a little bit and he got back into it 357 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: and then came back home to Jacksonville and Episcopal was 358 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: looking for a coach and they called him up and said, look, 359 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: we'd like you to come coach, and he did and 360 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: he was only there two years, and I was there 361 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: for the second year, and it was just amazing how 362 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: he took me under his wing. So I kind of 363 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: have a feeling I know what it was like for 364 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: David Culley to be taken under the wing of George McIntyre. 365 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: And if David Culley took those lessons and applied him 366 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: the way that I've been able to then I know 367 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: that David Cully is going to be one heck of 368 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: a coach because we had one heck of a mentor 369 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: in George and Tire. So you know, that's the thing 370 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: to me. And people will say, well, what about the 371 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: Texans and os and you know, what about the schemes 372 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: and what about all this? Look, this game is about people. 373 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: You get people to do things on a field together 374 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: that they don't think they can do or in some cases, 375 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: like you said with Marquis Brown, maybe he doesn't think 376 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: he can do it that night, but you pulled out 377 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: out of them. And the good coaches are able to 378 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: do that and do that consistently, and hopefully that's what 379 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna have with David Culley and of course his 380 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: coaching staff, which we should hopefully get the full list 381 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: soon from Texans pr and from the Texans officially what 382 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: that coaching staff is going to look like. And it 383 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: sounds as if another name has been added to listen. 384 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: That's James Campin, who coached for a long time on 385 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line with the Green Bay Packers, tutored stars 386 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: such as David Baktier. Just sitting Scott wells James camp 387 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: and apparently headed to Houston to become the offensive line 388 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: coach for your Houston Texans. We'll discuss all of that 389 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: more once we have that full list from the Texans 390 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: to discuss and disclose fully, but right now, sources and 391 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: way too many of them are saying yes, it's James Camping, 392 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: old line coach for your Houston Texans. That's in the future. 393 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: In the near future is Brian Mitchell, former NFL star 394 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: runner receiver returner. He spent a lot of time with 395 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: David Culley. He talked about that time Withdrew Doherty while 396 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: for you next on Texans All Access, What's going on? 397 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: And Roddy, welcome back to this edition of Texans All 398 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: Access on this wonderful Tuesday evening. So glad to be 399 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: back on the air. I am your host, John Harris 400 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: typically Monday, Wednesday, Friday or my nights, but Mark got 401 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: some stuff going on with the leaders ship, so I'm 402 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: stepping in as always and that means I get the 403 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: throw to a great interview with Drew Doherty and Brian Mitchell, 404 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: a long time dual threat in the NFL. Spent a 405 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: lot of time with David Culley. Here's true with Brian Mitchell. 406 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: This is a real treat. We get to talk with 407 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: one of the greatest to ever do it in the 408 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: NFL when it comes comes to returning kicks, returning punts, 409 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: playing running back, playing receiver. I mean, heck, only Jerry 410 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: Rice has more all purpose yards all time than the 411 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: great Brian Mitchell. Brian, first and foremost, how are you 412 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: doing today? Man? I'm doing well, Man, doing well, Just 413 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: trying to stay above one and contemplate. Am I gonna 414 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: come back for a couple of games and make sure 415 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: I can beat Jerry? Now, I'm just joking. What you 416 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: look like? You're good enough shape to do it. I've 417 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: been looking at pictures on you on Twitter and everything, 418 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: and you can catch them out a b Mitch Live NBCs. 419 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: So go there on Twitter and checking about. But the 420 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: reason you and I are chit chatting today we have 421 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: a guy in common that we want to talk about 422 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: in David Culley. He coached you when you were in college, 423 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: and when you were in college, you didn't return a 424 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: kicker a punt once you were a quarterback. But first, 425 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: what's he mean to you? What is David Culley to you? Well? 426 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: You know, it's like so many people you meet in 427 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: your life, you know, and my dad, my high school coach, 428 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: and Coach Cully are those three men that really had 429 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: a major impact on my life. My dad was a 430 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: military guy, and then I get with Don Jones and 431 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: college in high school, and then I get with David Culley. 432 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: He recruited me when I was sixteen years old, and 433 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: he will probably tell you I was that guy where 434 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: it was all about Brian Mitchell, and I can remember 435 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: him basically constantly being on me about not just being 436 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: a leader when I'm going on to the football field, 437 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: but being a leader twenty four to seven, going to 438 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: class on time, not skipping classes, not falling the sleeping meetings, 439 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: which I was fall a sleeping meetings a little bit, 440 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: but you know, it's just those little things of harping 441 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: on me. And then I got to a point and 442 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: when I was nineteen years old where I decided I 443 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: was gonna get into an argument with a grand assistant, 444 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, and kind of told him some things that 445 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't be saying. And my dad basically took 446 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: Coach Culley side and basically said, you don't play this game. 447 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: You're going to hold a clipboard. And I think that 448 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: day is the day that Brian Mitchell that you see 449 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: to day is who I became because they made me 450 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: realize that it wasn't about, you know, just a football, 451 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: It's about being a total man. And I think that's 452 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: what I love so much about coach Cully. Even when 453 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: I got into the pros and he was at you know, 454 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: other teams in Tampa Bay and Pittsburgh, he still checked 455 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: up on me. I was still yes, sir, you know, 456 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: looking at him as that person who you have so 457 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: much respect for. It. Then I got the Philadelphia with him, 458 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: it's the exact same thing. And you know, at this 459 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: point now I'm fifty two years old and I still 460 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: look at him and his wife Carolyn as like that's 461 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: my other parents, you know, my mom and dad had 462 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: both passed away since. But I look at him like 463 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: that because they'd never treated me like just a regular, 464 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, a student athlete. I was treated as special, 465 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, and I see him as the same way. Yeah, 466 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: I can. I can sense that vibe just in talking 467 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: with him last Friday after his introductory press conference. Have 468 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: you had a chance to chit chat with him? Texting 469 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: and keep in touch with him since the announcement was made. Yeah, 470 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: I talked with him. I talked to him actually right 471 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: before he was coming down, before it was finally announced 472 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: that he was going to get the job, And I 473 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: talked to him twice after that. He was on his 474 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: way to go see his dad, who was ninety four 475 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: years old. And what I mean, that's a blessing in itself, 476 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: you know. But ultimately he was happy, you know. And 477 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: one thing I know about coaching, he always talks about 478 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: putting in the work and when your time come, making 479 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: sure you're gonna be prepared for it, you know. And 480 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: I think that's ultimate because he was in his NFL 481 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: for twenty seven years before he really got the chance 482 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: to move up to the other level, and now getting 483 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: that chance and being ready. You know, he was never 484 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: a person who gave up or he didn't get frustrated, 485 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: not that I saw he was, you know. And when 486 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: I look at a coach, I look for a certain things. 487 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: I look for a coach who's a great communicator. He's 488 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: definitely that. I look for a coach who can basically 489 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: get you to buy into what he's selling. He did that, 490 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, he got me to turn down in Arkansas 491 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: and all these other major schools and go to who 492 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: example after it. So he was good at influencing people. 493 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: But once you get around him as a football player, 494 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, I was a quarterback who had a very 495 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: strong arm. I could run with the best time. I 496 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: was the Michael Vicks before Michael Vis And ultimately he 497 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: made me become a better pass a better touch on 498 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: the ball, and also learned the whole game of football. 499 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: People would have thought that I ran the option in 500 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: high school. I never ran option. So I get to 501 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: college and he taught me the option, but we ran 502 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: it in a different way with two slots and two 503 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: wideouts in a single back. So once I got to 504 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: that point, I became a much better assay athlete. I 505 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: must be on a quarterback, and I must be at 506 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: a human being. Just being around a guy like coach. 507 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: You know, you've just touched on a lot of things 508 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: that I want to hit on as well. But one 509 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: of those is, yes, he's a great guy. You've told 510 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: us many examples of why he's a great guy, and 511 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: so many others around the NFL have chimed in and 512 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: sounded off about that, and that's one of the things 513 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: that Houston seconds are very excited about. But you know 514 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: this better than anybody. You don't last four decades in 515 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. If you're just a nice guy, you got 516 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: to back it up with football knowledge and being able 517 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: to be a good football coach back when you were 518 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: a raging Cajun. How did he make you a better 519 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: football player? Just in addition to the touch and on 520 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: the past touch and so on song, But what did 521 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: you see as a football coach strictly xs and those 522 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: wise from him that made you better, made teams better well, 523 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: putting us in a position and putting me in a 524 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: position to have an advantage. You know, most of the 525 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: NFL is not about necessarily I'm just better than you. 526 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: It's that I have situations and it's called situational football 527 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: where I'm going to put your defense at a disadvantage. 528 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: I'm going to be the guy who's going to be 529 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: going against your linebacker. He doesn't have a chance in 530 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: hell of checking me. You know, I think when you 531 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: look at coach Andy Reid and we look at the 532 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: innovation of Coach Read's offense, David was there with him 533 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: for like eighteen of those old years where he was 534 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: basically giving a lot of his input, and I think 535 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the negative thing about NFL, where 536 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: we get a coaching offensive coordinator head coaching offensive coordinator, 537 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: but they take all his advice from these other guys. 538 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: He was a passing game coordinator up in Baltimore. He 539 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: was also assistant head coach with Andy Reid, and a 540 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: lot of his influence had a lot to do with 541 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: the things that you see them running and still running 542 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: the day, and I think people didn't look at the 543 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: fact that they look at with the position he was coaching, 544 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: not in the understanding that he had as much of 545 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: input in that office as anybody else. For me, when 546 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: we went into football games, he knew exactly how to 547 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: get me to watch film and make and see. I 548 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: wasn't a film watching you know. I was a guy 549 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: where I thought I stepped on the field, I'm the best, 550 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the best. But he showed me how 551 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: to begin to read on what guys were trying to do. 552 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, he took it a 553 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: step father. You know so many people's team. Why I 554 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: watch film on my oppointment? Do you watch film on yourself. 555 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: He was the first guy to ever tell me to 556 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: watch film on myself to see what type of tendencies 557 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: I was giving off. And I never ever thought, you know, 558 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: why would I do that. Then I get to the 559 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: NFL and Ernest Buying, a guy who also was a player, 560 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: who taught me a lot. The first thing he said, 561 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: he said, do you ever watch film on yourself? I'm like, yeah, 562 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: I had a coach tell me about that. He said, 563 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: when that coach gave you the best advice you're ever 564 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna have. So now, when I started watching film, I 565 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: had a Tennessee at running back. I would always look 566 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: to the side I'm about the run. Well, Ernest told me, 567 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: he said, I can tell you what you're doing now. 568 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: He told me all these things. I started getting away 569 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: from it, but Coach Cully had already taught me this 570 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: in college, you know. But I take that, and then 571 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: I also take the fact that he made me realize 572 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: early on that it wasn't just me playing the game anymore. 573 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: This was something that was important, like it was my 574 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: job before I started getting paid money for it, you know. 575 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: And I think that's the problem where so many people 576 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: think you're still playing this game, which my whole career, 577 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: I have got younger guys saying that I was laughing. 578 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: I was. I say, you know what, because in the 579 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: off season, I dedicate myself to my craft so I 580 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: could have fun during the season, and I learned a 581 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of left from coach cully By. You don't go 582 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: out there on the field and start learning when you 583 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to already knew it when you get there. 584 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: So I was a study had I was a study nut. 585 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, we have a military fall and then having 586 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: a coaches dedicated as coach, you know, it made me 587 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, that's really exciting. Interesting you bring up 588 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: the laughter part of that because you're I think a 589 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: lot of times people discount that and maybe take that 590 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: as a slight native, But it sounds like to me 591 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: that laughter was coming from a place of extreme confidence 592 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: and extreme preparation. So why not have fun? Right? And 593 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: I think that's the ultimate thing. You know, if I 594 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: had to tell people, like what did he give me? 595 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: You know, I was a quarterback, you know that was 596 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: I was kind of shy if I didn't know you, 597 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: But this man gave me so much confidence in my profession, 598 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: mine as a football player to where I gained confidence 599 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: in every aspect of my life. You know, I never 600 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: to meet years thought I would be doing radio and TV. 601 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: That's what I've been doing since nineteen ninety two, ninety three, 602 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, while I played in the league, because of 603 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: the confidence that I got from how he made me 604 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: understand things. And the more I learned and the more 605 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: confidence I gained in myself, the more conference I gained 606 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: and everything else around me. And to be to be 607 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: honest with you, not many of us ever get a 608 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: chance to thank people for what they've done along the way. 609 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: And right before my dad passed away, I was able 610 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: to tell my dad, thank you for all these certain 611 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: things that he did. And you know, I think that 612 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: for putting me in a position to be successful when 613 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: I got to Philadelphia. You know, this is now the 614 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: two thousand and I left college in nineteen ninety, so 615 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: twenty something years later, you know, but no, no, like 616 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen years later it was. And I get a 617 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: chance to be playing on the same on the same 618 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: football team with coach and I was able to tell him, 619 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, thank you for all the things because he 620 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: had never heard me tell him that story about when 621 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: he told the coach, if you play him, I quick. 622 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: That's how deep it was, you know, if you play 623 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: him in this game, I quick, because I got into 624 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: a MF and fest with this coach and they wouldn't 625 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: let me play. And I think the lessons learned from 626 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: that is the reason that you were able to see 627 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: me put twenty three thousand yards in the NFL. Because 628 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: I realized it was about work. It was about making 629 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: sure you hold your word to the other people. And 630 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: I watch him do it over and over again, and 631 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: you just begin. When you respect somebody, you begin and 632 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: to try to just imitate and emulate what they do. 633 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: And I was like that we coach so great stuff 634 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: there from Brian Mitchell played with the Redskins. The Eagles 635 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: played at ULLL, which at the time I think was 636 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: Southwest Louisiana, a legend in the NFL, legend in that 637 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: community down in Southwest Louisiana at Louisiana, the Raging Cajuns, 638 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: where David Culley cut his coaching teeth a lot of 639 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: different places along the way. And now he is your 640 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: Houston Texans head coach. All right, we go one segment left. 641 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: It's time for the Stock Report. If you saw the 642 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: Stock Report the other night, then God bless you. It's 643 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: a new segment I'm doing on Texas three sixty. I 644 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: figured why not bring it to radio, to the stock 645 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: Report going around in the NFL with DP and Drew 646 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: next right here in Texans All Access. We'll go back 647 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: to our final segments of Texans All Access on this 648 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: Tuesday evening. I'm so into always saying Wednesday, that'll be 649 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. We'll have Draft Night Wednesday. We'll have some 650 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: fun stuff for you. Then Drew and I have something 651 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: on in the lap that is going to be phenomenal 652 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: deep and I, well, we did a little water break Wednesday. 653 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to hear. We'll have that for you tomorrow. 654 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: That's a Draft Night Wednesday. But tonight I'm bringing in 655 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: a segment that I did for Texans three sixty. Hopefully 656 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: you've seen it, because it's fantastic and it is called 657 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: stock Report. It's awesome and I kind of lose my 658 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: mind during it, but it's all right. It's essentially you're 659 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: gonna buy sell stocks as football players, etc. It's a 660 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: little different concept. We're gonna do Stock Report a little 661 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: different way. With Deep and Drew. Buy or sell what 662 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: I am about to give to you? Deep, you will 663 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: go first on this one. Russell Wilson little noise over 664 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: the weekend about not being completely enamored with the way 665 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: that Seattle has done things. Maybe looking for a trade 666 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: in Seattle. Don't know depe buy or sell? Russell Wilson 667 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: traded from Seattle prior to the twenty twenty one season. 668 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: You buy it? Are you selling? Oh? I'm selling that. 669 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: Selling means I disagree. Correct. I said that was a 670 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: lot of confidence. I am selling that. I think, Um, 671 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna I don't know who if they've named their 672 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator or not. Yeah, Shane Waldron, who I mean, 673 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: he's a young guy. We you know, he's been around 674 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: the league. You know, Who's to say. I don't think 675 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: he's done too much in the league that that any 676 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: of us really would know about. But yeah, they've named 677 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: him as the offensive coordinator. Okay, So may so I 678 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: feel like there's a glimmer of hope with a new 679 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Maybe he didn't like the way the offense 680 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: was being run under Schotenheimer in the past. So I 681 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: feel like Wilson, may they could they could bring him 682 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: back into the fold and sort of change up things 683 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: in the offensive scheme that maybe they hadn't done in 684 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: the year's past. So I'm selling. I think Russell Wilson 685 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: stays put in Seattle, Threw Doherty, You buying or selling 686 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson traded from the Seattle Seahawks. Selling like Magellan Broom. 687 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: He is the Seattle Seahawks. I don't want to hear 688 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: anything about Steve Largent. I don't want to hear anything 689 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: about anyone that he is the Seattle Seahawks. Perhaps. No, no, no, 690 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is the Seattlehawks. He's not going anywhere. This 691 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: is I don't know what's going on, but he's standing. 692 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: They're not gonna let him go. Okay, no way, Jose, 693 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: all right, Drew, I'm gonna start with you on this one. 694 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Now, when he got a coach, Nick Sirianni's 695 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of buzz about what they will do 696 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. When Sirianna you came from the Colts, 697 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: was asked who is going to be the quarterback? He said, 698 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about quarterback right now. I got a 699 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: million other things well, he's gonna have to think about it. 700 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: How Roseman's gonna have to think about it because they've 701 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: been shot. Carson Wentz buy or sell? Carson Wentz will 702 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: be traded to the Indianapolis Colts. You're buying or sell him? 703 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: Oh Man, See, you've given us these scenarios, and this 704 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: is the this is the only one. I kind of 705 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: hedge over, I kind of waffle over. Yeah, I mean 706 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: I could see it. It makes sense, and I don't 707 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be around Philadelphia. But is it straight 708 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: to the Colts? I don't. I'm gonna sell, even though 709 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: I do think he's not gonna be in Philadelphia. So 710 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, it's not the Colts, even though 711 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: there's lots of smoke. But I just I don't see 712 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: that that happened. I don't see. I don't see Carson 713 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: Wentz going to Indianapolis. I will buy all the shares 714 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: of that. You know what, Because I was thinking Frank Wright, 715 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Yeah, that makes sense. The Siriani Colts thing 716 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: had not even occurred to me that that would make 717 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: even more sense that he would be willing to do 718 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: a deal with the Colts because he knows, they know, 719 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: they all these people know each other between two teams, 720 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: and that's really important for a trade to go down. 721 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: His trust and a good relationship between two staffs. So 722 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: I am buying that all day long. I can see 723 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz in Indianapolis. He's unhappy in Philly. The Colts. 724 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: They didn't land Stafford. I thought Stafford could have ended 725 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: up in this division as well. So give me, give me, 726 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: give me all the shares of that. Interesting Carson went 727 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: to the Colt face. Okay, that's a good one. Some 728 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: other places. Yeah, I was going to ask you that 729 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: your hedge would be if he doesn't go to Indianapolis. 730 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: Do you think he's moved? I just I think the field. 731 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: I think the field. You're taking the field all right. 732 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: Sunday night, we saw a performance for the ages by 733 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense against the Kansas City Chiefs 734 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: offense Drew. Are you buying or selling this statement I'm 735 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: about to make The Tampa Bay Buccaneers found the formula 736 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: to stop Kansas City. Teams will follow it and keep 737 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: Kansas City from exploding offensively as they had the last 738 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: three years. Selling because Patrick Mahomes was not. And as 739 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: much as I loved that win that the Houston Texans 740 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: had in Kansas City in the twenty nineteen season in October, 741 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: he was banged up that day and the Texas, I 742 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: think a lot of people are gonna say the Texans 743 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: had a formula that day because they kept him off 744 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: the field, they rattled him. He wasn't at his at 745 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: his best, and like with everything that's happened since then, 746 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: back in the time, what it did happen and you know, 747 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: for a few months afterwards, it was it felt so 748 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: good and you kind of thought, well, that's what we 749 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: did that, that's what happened there. It sort of seems 750 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: like the Texans caught a break that day and a 751 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, a lot of like a confluence of 752 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: things worked in their favorite. I don't know that that 753 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: would happen many times again. And boy, Tampa Bay, are 754 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: you going to be able to have a defense with 755 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: that sort of secondary and that sort of front working 756 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: union the way it did? And how long is that 757 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: defense going to actually stay together? How many guys are 758 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, gonna be back next year at this level? 759 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a formula to beat the Chiefs. But 760 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: I think a lot of other things have to go 761 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: into play there, and a lot of other things have 762 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: to fall right for you. I don't think it's the formula. 763 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: I don't know that there is the formula to beat 764 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. And did the Chiefs just have a really 765 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: bad day too? I mean, is that is that something 766 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: that just kind of concern Sometimes you have a bad 767 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: day and it's at the wrong time. I think that 768 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: might be something to consider. I think the Kansa City 769 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: is gonna be back and back again and again and 770 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: again and again over the next decade. I really I think. 771 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see my homes back in this game, 772 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna win some more, might lose some more too. But 773 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a way to beat the Chiefs. 774 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: I think that was a way that the Chiefs. I'm 775 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: still I felt like the Buccaneers. You mentioned it, and 776 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: the one area you did mention, I'll throw in there 777 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: and se linebackers. I think one of the keys in 778 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: that game was Devin White track and running backs all 779 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: over the fields, but also Levante David went man to 780 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: man against Travis Kelsey and talent. Everything I just said 781 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: it makes it sound like I'm discounting this Bucks win. No, no, no, 782 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: that was awesome that they totally won that game. They 783 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: were the best team. There's no doubt about that. They 784 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: kept them out of the end, So that was amazing. 785 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way to be, but you 786 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: know it's it's funny. It's like saying the here's here's 787 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: the formula to owning your dream home. I have a 788 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: lot of money money like that is a blueprint. But 789 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: you know what you got to have, like these super 790 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: talented linebackers. You got to have a pass rush that 791 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: just doesn't quit all day long. You have to make 792 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: sure that you're playing the Chiefs on a day when 793 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: like all their offensive linemen are injured and out of 794 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: the game, and and Patrick Mahomes has turf toe, and oh, 795 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: you've just signed like a Hall of Famer quarterback Tom 796 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: Brady with a Hall of Famer tight end Rob Gronkowski. 797 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: Go go ahead and duplicate that, like that's impossible to duplicate, 798 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: Like the only the Bucks look the way the Bucks did, 799 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: Like no other team is going to match up that way. 800 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: On a day when Kansas City wasn't having its best 801 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: day at all, they were they were really under the 802 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: gun with all these injuries that they had, especially on 803 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: on offense. Well, here's the question I should I should 804 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: have asked. Don't respond to this because I'm gonna follow 805 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: us up with something. Did the Bucks ruin the Chiefs chances? 806 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: And here's part of the reason why I say that 807 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: going forward, because the Chiefs project to be about thirty 808 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: five million over the cap for twenty twenty one. Are 809 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs now gonna have to say goodbye to some 810 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: guys that they don't want to and some key guys 811 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: that impact them going forward? Was that the chance to 812 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of get the back to back make history and 813 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: the Bucks sort of ruined that, And now they've got 814 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: to make some financial decisions they don't want to make. 815 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: But that's a different one for down the road, because boy, 816 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: that could get really dicey for the Chiefs. Last one 817 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: dep will start with you. Dak Prescott will play for 818 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: a team not name the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty one. 819 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: Buy or sell Dak Prescott playing elsewhere in twenty twenty 820 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: one NBA? What's what's his contracts? Is he a free agent? 821 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: Free agent? You know, I that's a tough one. Johnny 822 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: coming off an injury too. I will I'm gonna sell okay, 823 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: And that's a very hesitant sell because I could make 824 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: an argument both ways, Like I mean, I can see 825 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: both both of those both entities just parting ways and 826 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: moving on. But I feel like, if I know anything, 827 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: it's that when Jerry Jones has a favorite, he really 828 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: has a favorite. And I think that he really likes 829 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. They know what it's like to not have 830 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback, much like the Texans do what it's like 831 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: in those down years when you don't have a starting quarterback, 832 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: and they saw it firsthand last year. So I think 833 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: he's going to hold on to Dak Prescott as long 834 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: as he can because they saw flashes of some great 835 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: things when he was a rookie, and I think they're 836 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: just waiting to sort of get back to that point. 837 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna cling on to Dak for 838 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: a little bit longer. So I'm going to sell them 839 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: that true by selling selling he doesn't want to go anywhere. 840 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: The Cowboys don't want him go anywhere. They'll figure this 841 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: money out, no chance he's gone. He loves being the 842 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys quarterback. Cowboys. I don't know if he loves it. 843 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: Does he love it? Maybe he does? Absolutely? How could 844 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: you not love the Dallas Cowboy you ever Clint Starner 845 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: talk about what it's like to be the quarterback of 846 00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: America's team. Yeah, yeah, team loves it, Mary's other team. Yeah. Yeah. 847 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: They are America's team, America's team. Love an America's team 848 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: to hate. Everyone has an opinion on them. Charlie Waters 849 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: is a great safety for them back in the seventies. Uh, 850 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: kind of like a borderline Hall of Fame player. And 851 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: he said, that's the beautiful thing about the Cowboys. Everyone 852 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: loves them or everyone hates them. There's no one in 853 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: the middle that's like huh, And that's why they're America's Well, 854 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: everybody loves YouTube. Hopefully they love me. Probably not, but 855 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: they definitely love you. Two guys, thank you so much 856 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: for me with me, Deepeat City, Drew Doherty, you guys 857 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: are the best. Thank you all for listening. We'll see 858 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 1: you next time and as always, go Texas.