WEBVTT - Miss Shah of Sunset GG 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:13.239 Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:15.240 Gig. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:19.360 I don't even know where to start with you and 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.159 I because I feel like, fuck Kevin Bacon. It's like 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.160 six degrees of GG and Tory. We have so many 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:31.280 common denominators and links throughout the years that it's wild. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:36.559 We really do have so many connections, Like we have 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.159 so many commonalities. We know so many similar people, so 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:44.440 many similar circles. But I think base to base, like 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:46.800 in person hanging out with you and I. It's only 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.840 been like once or twice fourteen years ago with. 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:51.520 My star or something like that. 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.800 Okay, so for everyone out there, let's go back through 0:00:55.840 --> 0:01:03.480 our history. So I met you originally because my son Liam, 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.000 our preschool that we went to, we started in the 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:11.280 toddler program, so he was like, I don't know, young, 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.360 like sixteen months and it. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:15.720 Was a whole new world for me. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.560 I was like a new mom, and I'm like, okay, 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.280 I'm gonna make mom friends and this is my new 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.440 chapter of my life. And your sister Laila was the 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:30.120 first friend I made. Oh nice, and her daughter, Jordan, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:38.240 your niece, was Liam's first friend, and so she and 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.240 I used to like we would sit there because I 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.319 was like nervous. I came in and I felt like 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.000 judged just because that's my own shit. But I was like, 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.480 oh my god, is everyone looking at me weird? Do 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.760 they hate me? Do they have preconceived notions? And we 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.320 immediately connected and I was like, Okay, I like that mom, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:02:00.360 and so we became friends. They became friends, and yeah, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:05.280 she was like my best mom friend for so many years, 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:06.760 all through preschool. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:08.160 Absolutely. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.239 I mean I remember, I remember all the play dates. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.120 I remember anytime I would talk to my sister, you know, 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.240 Jordan is playing you know, Tori's kids, and I was like, 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.320 oh my gosh, they're you know, they're really close. 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:18.960 Which is great. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.640 It's actually it's just very nostalgic as well, because we 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.440 grew up, you know, watching you on TV. And then 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.400 when you run into or your kids go to school 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.160 with someone that you feel like you've known. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:31.600 For so long. 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.359 And I get it now because I was on TV 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.720 for so many years and like, the parents come up 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.600 to me, they think they are already friends with me, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.920 you know, so but you were just you know, and 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.440 it was just like wow, to Harry Spelling and then 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.280 hearing how kind you are and how humble you are 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:48.480 and how down to earth you are. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.240 It was very nice, well she was. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.600 She was great to me because yeah, I felt always 0:02:55.639 --> 0:03:02.200 felt judged, and she made me feel normal. Yeah, because yeah, 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.720 we would be there like it was weird like people. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.000 First of all, like half the. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.320 Moms were too like conservative and square and and just 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.359 like everything had to be like this way and that way. Yeah, 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.840 and Leila and I were we were in our sweats 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.640 and just like, oh we don't care, oh well, and 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.240 we would just sit there and like gossip in the 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:21.840 corner and be like the kids are fine. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:27.000 Yeah, it's it's crazy. I don't have the energy for 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.120 those type of moms. I can't be one of those. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.080 I'm just I go in pajamas. I did do drop 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.200 off in pajamas. If I've been homeworking all day, I 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.800 do pick up in pajamas. And that's just as good 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.400 as I get for me. But you know, I love 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.640 to volunteer. I love to do those kind of fun 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.160 things at the school. But that's as much as it 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.080 goes for me. And wait, your son is four. Now 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.280 he's gonna be well, he's four and three quarters according 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:54.680 to him. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.080 Okay, Yeah, it's very important we throw that part in. 0:03:58.520 --> 0:03:59.080 But he'll be. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.240 Five on one. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.160 Five in April. He's just he's he's the best. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.040 And he now I won't say the name, but goes 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.000 to the preschool. 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.400 That we went to. Isn't that a small world? Yes? 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.760 I love that school. I really do too. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.520 And you'd be so surprised the person, the woman in charge, 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.080 is still running the place. 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:23.760 She's still there. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.000 So when Layla comes with my niece Jordan from my 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:28.920 son's school, things, it's just. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.039 It's such a small world. It's very nostalgia. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.320 Did they still have farming animals there? 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.760 They still do, and they've made it even better. They've expanded, 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.080 they've added more things. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:39.120 It's really cute. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:40.240 Oh my gosh. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.040 Yeah, over the years we had. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.320 Farm animals and then we didn't have farm animals, and 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.640 that school, God blessed them. Anytime I was like, we're 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.919 moving to a house in Hoa, we can't have farm animals. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.839 They took my animals. So a lot of my animals 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:57.359 are still there. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.560 Oh, I love that. I didn't know that, and I was, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:00.839 you know. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.560 The kids, like I know, like you know, your goats 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.120 right now are not at home, but they're at school, 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.080 and it was the only school that not that they 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.120 had homework, but you know, as they got older in preschool, 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.719 it was the only school that understood when I said 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.520 the Goat ate their homework, like they were like, okay. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:18.880 Yeah, probably a true story. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:24.440 Yeah, definitely, Oh my gosh, Okay. So when Shaw's of 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:29.359 Sunset started, I was immediately like, first of all, great show, 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.040 huge fan, huge fan. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.840 But I was really excited to watch because I was like. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.279 I know her, like well, I know her ish, I 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.760 know her sister, you know, and that was like a 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.880 big thing, like I felt a very like connective tissue 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:52.120 watching and but none of that, like all that aside, 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.039 Like I just always loved you because I loved your 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.360 voice and your willingness. And I think at the time 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.840 I found my voice now and everyone's like, oh my. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.320 God, she says everything. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.599 Yeah, but at the time I felt like very like, oh, 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.800 it was a perception of my life and what it was, 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.960 and I admired you because you just said it like 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.440 it was yeah. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.479 Yeah, you know. I had to toot my own harm 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:18.960 on that. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.960 But I always have felt I felt like I've always 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:26.520 been a little bit ahead of everything in that happens 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.799 in life. So I just feel like, now, thank god, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:34.240 we're living in this time where it's emphasized to speak up. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.280 It's emphasized to say what's on your mind, to talk 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.920 about your feelings, to talk about mental health, to talk 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.480 about anything that's happening to you as a woman, as 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.799 a gay person, as a colored person. So I almost 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.280 feel like, gosh, where the fuck is all have all 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:48.600 you been? 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:49.440 All these years? 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.920 Like I've been doing this, but I was really culed 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.560 for it, and now you guys are on my bandwagon. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.680 I feel your sister in so many ways ahead of 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.919 your her. No, it's like is it ever going to be? 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.919 But then it catches up like to me, like you're like, 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.280 I don't know why I want to liken you to 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:14.720 Paris Hilton, but I do. Except she was a certain 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:20.040 personality but just as like massive interest and like everyone 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:21.440 wanted to know what she was going to say, what 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.200 she was doing. But you were like the opposite of her, 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.160 like the polar opposite. Like it was like she was 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:31.600 the angel, you were the devil but not really. And 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.760 it's like, yeah, like where we Oh my gosh, imagine 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.440 like if we could like go back in time, you're 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.920 too young. But like if you were like in the nineties, 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:44.360 like early two thousands, you'd be president. 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.080 Now, I gotta tell you, I really don't want to 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.320 go back to those pause. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:49.680 I don't want to go back. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.440 I'm like, there's a reason why I'm so outspoken and 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.720 so in your face and you know, capable of doing 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.440 that was because I grew up in a way that 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:06.440 made me conditioned to have to be, you know, enforceful 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:07.880 if I want to talk or if I want to 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:08.920 get my message across. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.680 And it's just as a mom now I get it. 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.640 Everything trickles back to how you're raised and if you're 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.120 heard in your house and if you are. 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:19.080 Nurtured in your house. So I don't want to go 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.800 back to those crazy days. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.040 I'm really happy for my journey and God bless reality 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:27.080 TV because I've been in therapy my whole life. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.880 But nothing is as therapeutic. 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:34.440 As watching yourself on TV year after year, just changing 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.040 and changing and evolving. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.280 It's crazy. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:43.280 It's like you have videos of your therapy, se diary, right, 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.200 radio diary, dire life, and you're like, Okay, here's me evolving, Okay, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:48.480 here's me slipping back down. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:49.320 And here I am again. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:53.600 I'm I'm like I always would say that, and I 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:57.240 think people probably thought I was really strange? Is reality TV? 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.480 To me was cathartic. It was my out. I couldn't 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.840 speak up for myself, but I felt a comfort, Like 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.679 when I did True Torri when my husband we had 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.880 a whole infidelity scandal. I people were like, are you 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.360 really filming this? And I was like, I can't speak 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.120 up for myself, but I feel this safety when the 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.000 camera crews are there that. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.439 I think that. I think the crew, they the production 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:25.120 in general. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.680 They are the pen. You know, they're the pen. The 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.199 show is the notebook and you are using. They're helping 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:36.439 you write your personal story. So I really I loved it. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.920 It was very good therapy. But I think for a 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:43.040 reality show, number one to be good and number two 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:44.160 for you to gain. 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.480 Therapeutic aspects out of it, you have. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:51.200 To be fully just transparent, vulnerable to the process, and open. 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:53.959 And you're gonna get talked shit about. Everyone's gonna troll you. 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.520 Whether you're none or you're you know, whore, It doesn't 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.000 matter what you do, they're gonna hate you. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.479 It's so true. Do you feel like you're polarizing. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:13.040 I think that I allowed my audience to have a 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:17.920 form of consistency when it came to my personality. It 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:22.160 wasn't just a seasonal thing. It wasn't just a one 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:22.960 story thing. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:24.440 It's just who I was. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:30.679 And I think by being me, it just now gives 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.160 me this platform to continue to be me, not trying 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.920 to fit any societal you know, expectations or norms or anything. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.800 And when I look at my social media and stuff 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.280 like that, the differences between for instance, me and maybe 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.600 other castmates or other people on reality shows, they get 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:49.200 a lot of hate. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:50.760 They get a lot of like you're so pretty, or 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.199 you're so ugly, or you're so this. I'm not even 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:54.320 kidding you. 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.000 If you look at my comments, it's just thank you 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.440 for this. You've taught me this, and you know, you 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.800 always so honest, You've always kept it real. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.520 And it's just. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.240 Like, I'm like, Wow, now I'm at a point where 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.280 I can really kind of have an impact maybe with 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.960 my words, because I feel like now people are listening. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.280 You know, I came out with cannabis a million years 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.040 ago before anyone was doing this. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.360 It was not a thing. You know, I beat everyone 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:22.000 to the punch. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:26.240 Unfortunately, you know, advertisers are not ready to promote these 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.160 things on TV because you know, the scheduling, it's a 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.920 federal substance, it's state by state. 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.920 And then every Bravo. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.719 Housewife wanted to come out with CBD, wanted to do this, 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.959 wanted to do that, ozempic, craze. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:42.880 Oh my god, if I did. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.640 Not set off a whole storm of people coming out 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.240 with ozempic, you know, that was awesome. Having a donor child. 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.600 I got very ridiculed for that one. That was a 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:56.040 tough one, you know, being so super ridiculed to now 0:11:56.160 --> 0:12:00.280 seeing how it's just becoming more and more and more 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.520 normal for women or men to say, I'm doing this 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:04.120 on my own. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:05.480 I can do it on my own. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:10.840 It's almost like you were the learning curve for everybody. Yeah, 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.000 and it couldn't have been easy, Like I'm sure there's 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.920 so much that you had to deal with and repress 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.280 and go through and maybe not repressed. But like the 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.400 fact that it all comes it's cyclical, all comes back 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.439 around now everything like you're pointing out that you have 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.160 done in the past. Everyone's like, yes, we support, we support, 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.360 but at the time, like I know what this is. Like, 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.840 it's hard to balance that shame when you want to 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.280 be authentic and you know what you want and you're 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.240 going to do it anyway, but it's like everyone's just 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:44.160 like no. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.559 Right, right, That's what I guess at the end of 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:47.840 the day. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.559 That's just what being real. And I use quotes when 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.360 I say, but that's what being real is. It's just 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:54.439 staying consistent. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.679 To who you are or who your soul and heart is. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:12:59.080 That is so true. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.400 And that's I struggle with this all the time personally 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:07.720 of like finding me and being me and still kind 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.280 of pigeonholed of what I was conditioned my whole you know, 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.400 nine or two when I was started when I was sixteen, 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.400 condition of what I was supposed to be, Like I 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.600 played the good girl, like I was the virgin, like 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.200 I'm not supposed to publicly have a voice, and then 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.880 one day it's like, oh my god, she has a 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:26.680 big voice. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.679 Right, So it's like, did you have that same concept 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.120 where your character, for instance, on Beverly Hills nine o 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.200 two on zero, you felt like you had to be 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.680 that person at all times because that's what they expected 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:43.679 of you. Yes, you didn't try to say I'm trying 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.360 to prove that I'm the opposite I'm when you do 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.440 press or media or events, it was you were Donna Martin. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:52.640 I really didn't, but I didn't. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:53.200 I was. 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.880 But here's the thing. I was born into that world 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.440 through my dad. It was like, so first I was 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:04.079 Aaron's daughter, and I was always kind of on display publicly. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.040 So it was I picked up from a young age, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.440 like I represent my parents. They never told me this, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.880 but being five, I knew everyone's looking at my dad, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.640 you know, and they know who I am, so I 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.160 have to be a certain way. And then that just 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.320 kept going. And then all of a sudden, I'm playing 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.880 America's most famous virgin, and it's like, oh, she's the 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:29.320 good girl and everyone's looking up to her. So I 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:30.320 wait a minute. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.360 First of all, you had a little bit of. 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.600 A bitch before you were America's virgin on one of 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.640 my favorite movies of absolute all time, True Beverly Hills. 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.080 Oh my gosh, I did. I was. 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.880 Yeah, I was fourteen. You were a little bitch, I know, 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.560 And that was so hard. I only had like what 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.600 two or three lines, but I was like, I was 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.600 like still, then I was like, oh my gosh, here 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.960 was this Beverly Hills girl. Like it was my first 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.320 like acting job. It wasn't my dad's thing. I was 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.120 like thrown out into the wilderness and I was supposed to. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:04.640 Be the tough girl bitch, and I was like, no, 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.400 I'm actually just the Beverly Hills girl. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.960 I wanted to see into the pill That's where I 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:09.640 feel comfort. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.760 How here, how here? That's interesting. 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