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Speaker 2: This thirty thousand pounds massive ordnance penetrator, or the MOP

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Speaker 7: This is the primal screen of a dying regime.

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Speaker 5: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 7: There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying

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Speaker 5: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 5: If that answer is to save my country, this country.

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Speaker 5: It's Saturday, twenty one June, in the year Over the

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Speaker 5: I want to break down, audience. That's one of the

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Speaker 7: Brian, Uh, I want to go before when you say.

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Speaker 1: Seems kind of strange that the Prime Minister of Israel

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Speaker 5: As you know, we've been the we're very pro Israel

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Speaker 7: Can we catch a lot agree for that.

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Speaker 5: We've been very supportive of the going after the Muslim

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Speaker 5: of this because of what Schmerkanas just said. If the

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Speaker 3: That yeah, they're about eighty percent in agreement, is what

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Speaker 3: easily broken. The no battle plan survives first contact with

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Speaker 3: the enemy. As Klauswitz had.

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Speaker 5: Said, there's so much there and I want to get

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Speaker 5: I want to get Jack Vosovak, but I just want

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Speaker 5: to get one point very clear, and there's no plan.

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Speaker 5: Max Boot has reinforced this. Many people have reinforces that

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Speaker 5: are not MAGA and pretty much never Trump there is.

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Speaker 5: The Israelis have no capability, right and I'm not trying

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Speaker 5: about commando racing like that, but they have no air capability,

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Speaker 5: no air capability to fit if you start this and

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Speaker 5: your you have to you got two issues. One the

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Speaker 5: ballistic missile program that clearly you're absolutely correct that they

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Speaker 5: were making huge the Persians making huge progress on and

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Speaker 5: that was a concern. But on the actual enrichment in

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Speaker 5: the facility of actually weaponizing this. It gets down to

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Speaker 5: for door at the end, you have to make sure

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Speaker 5: that that's out and I think they've scattered it all

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Speaker 5: over the country, but at least you got to do that.

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Speaker 5: They don't have They don't have the actual you know,

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Speaker 5: air assault capability to take that out.

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Speaker 7: That absolutely has to come from the Americans, does it not?

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Speaker 3: It does. They don't have the bomb and they don't

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Speaker 3: have the delivery system to deliver the bomb, that is

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Speaker 3: the planes. Now, in the past, Israel had actually offered,

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Speaker 3: and this has been known for a while to say, hey,

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Speaker 3: look we'll fly the planes right, yeah, you know, blood

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Speaker 3: won't be on your hands. So I know that was

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Speaker 3: said in prior or I was told that was said

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Speaker 3: in prior administrations. I'm not sure how in play that

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Speaker 3: is here, but yes, in order for there to be

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Speaker 3: more certainty and in order to really destroy the facility,

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Speaker 3: they will likely need the American you know, the B

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Speaker 3: two bomb, B two bomber and this massive mop ordnance.

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Speaker 3: That said, there is a component, and there are people

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Speaker 3: who say the famous military idea that you know, fire

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Speaker 3: without maneuver is inconclusive, maneuver without fire suicide. Yes, but

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Speaker 3: in order to really make sure, there's a school of

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Speaker 3: lot that there does need to be boots on the ground,

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Speaker 3: or do need to be boots on the graph, that

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Speaker 3: some commando or other sort of group of men soldiers

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Speaker 3: or whatever have to go in there and get the

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Speaker 3: stuff and then blow it up. Now, the United States

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Speaker 3: is not going to do that though, I mean Israel.

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Speaker 3: Israel doesn't like to spend its soldiers because it's a

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Speaker 3: small country, so that leaves the logical option of just

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Speaker 3: bomb the hell out of the Mountain, but that might

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Speaker 3: be inconclusive. Last thing, Ted postal m I t scientists and.

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Speaker 5: I want to hold this. I want to hold this.

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Speaker 5: I want to hold this after the break. Hang on, sorry,

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Speaker 5: pacivics with us. We've taken Capudo out of his garden

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Speaker 5: and put him on the show, which he should. These

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Speaker 5: should be on primetime everywhere, taking the time to actually

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Speaker 5: walk through this with real reporting from the White House.

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Speaker 7: Is the party on?

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Speaker 5: If it is, folks, we'll we'll talk about it after

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Speaker 5: the break.

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Speaker 4: Here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 3: Baan.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get Jack Besova again here, by the way,

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Speaker 5: Birch Gold always on Saturday. Take your phone out, Bannon

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Speaker 5: nine eight nine eight nine eight. I think now is

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Speaker 5: the time. There's enough turbulence. It's only gonna get worse

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Speaker 5: nine eight ninety eight. To get the ultimate guide for

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Speaker 5: investing a gold in the Age of Trump, and you

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Speaker 5: get access to Philip Patrian team.

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Speaker 7: Make sure you do that today. Pustova' gonna bring you.

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Speaker 5: But I got to mention, I've never had a reporter

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Speaker 5: of any type actually quote cossf Its the way it

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Speaker 5: should be quoted in a perfect time.

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Speaker 7: But I would be remiss if I didn't say that.

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Speaker 5: Your father, first Lieutenant Phillip Caputo, I think wrote, if

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Speaker 5: not the best book in the Vietnam War, one of

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Speaker 5: the best books in the Vietnam War, The Rumor of War.

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Speaker 7: He knew war, did you not, sir?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was brought up. He was a

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Speaker 3: reporter before that. In fact, the reason you know about

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Speaker 3: mayor dailies voting for Audust because he was part of

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Speaker 3: that pulitzerpriz when he teamed for the Chicago Tribune back

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Speaker 3: in seventy two. But I was certainly brought up with

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Speaker 3: as a son of a Vietnam vet and who was

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Speaker 3: there on the shores in sixty five and then returned

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Speaker 3: as a reporter to cover the fall of say Saigon

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Speaker 3: in seventy five, had seen what happens with the promise

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Speaker 3: of war and then the realities of it. And very

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Speaker 3: often those jingoistic people who predict that things are going

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Speaker 3: to go great, very often don't know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Things don't go so well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the golf of Tongue King Jack Besovic. By the way,

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Speaker 5: if people have never you want to read a great

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Speaker 5: book on Vietnam, Danang nineteen sixty five from a ground

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Speaker 5: pounder's view of the Marines. A Rumor of War would

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Speaker 5: be a great weekend read for folks compared to the

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Speaker 5: Golf of Tongue King and all the chest beating that

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Speaker 5: went into Vietnam and then the men that actually had

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Speaker 5: to deliver in the brutality of it, and oftentimes it

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Speaker 5: seemed the purposelessness of it in the bravery and the

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Speaker 5: valley are of our Vietnam veterans. You want to get up,

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Speaker 5: you want to get a real view from the from

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Speaker 5: the ground Rumor Wars your book.

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Speaker 7: There's other great ones too, but this one's fantastic. Your

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Speaker 7: dad's just an extraordinary writer.

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Speaker 5: Mark check the sobic observations on what brother Kampuda has

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Speaker 5: been putting forward.

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Speaker 10: Well, Steve, I I have to agree Kapudo is exactly

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Speaker 10: right on these situations. War easy to get in, hard

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Speaker 10: to get out. And my former boss there, mister Michael

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Speaker 10: murkanish Uh, you know, cribbing off of stuff that I've

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Speaker 10: been saying on the war room all week. But that's okay.

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Speaker 10: It's not the first time that he's cribbed off of

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Speaker 10: Pasobic back when I was in college, and he would,

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Speaker 10: you know, take all my take all my DRAMs and

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Speaker 10: never give me credit for his op eds and his

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Speaker 10: mom a Boja ballbook. But but look, Steve, the latest

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Speaker 10: is that President Trump has deployed be too stealth bombers,

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Speaker 10: These Spirit bombers, each of them with two bombays, have

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Speaker 10: the ability to drop these bunker busters. They have been

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Speaker 10: conducting refueling so uh. There are some indications that they

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Speaker 10: may be ride and heavy as they fly out across

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Speaker 10: the Pacific. Fox News reported earlier this morning that they

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Speaker 10: have indications they're headed for Anderson Air Force Base. Now

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Speaker 10: that's on the northern end of Guam. I was out

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Speaker 10: of the southern end Iglama a couple of times on

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Speaker 10: the naval base there, but up in the northern base

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Speaker 10: they have a huge Anderson Air Force Base. This is

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Speaker 10: the key role of Guam and the island hopping campaign

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Speaker 10: that was undertaken in World War Two. Regarding this, now,

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Speaker 10: that would put them just at the outside of strike

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Speaker 10: range for an Iran run. Now, this is not as

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Speaker 10: close as Diego, Garcia, is certainly not as close as

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Speaker 10: Saudi or our air base in Qatar, which are there

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Speaker 10: obviously in the Gulf. So if they wanted to strike

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Speaker 10: Iran from Guam, they would have they would have the

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Speaker 10: ability to through air to air refueling. We know these

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Speaker 10: case he won thirty five's have created this air bridge

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Speaker 10: basically around the world at this point. And of course

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Speaker 10: they could also redeploy to Diego and then fly up

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Speaker 10: from there. But currently it looks like those B two bombers,

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Speaker 10: four to six of them flying information with refewelers and

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Speaker 10: others are headed towards Guam right smack dab in the

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Speaker 10: middle of the Pacific Ocean as we speak. So President

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Speaker 10: Trump clearly ratcheting up the pressure here on Iran to

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Speaker 10: make a decision.

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Speaker 5: He's getting the assets, he's getting the assets in place,

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Speaker 5: there's no doubt to give them alternatives.

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Speaker 7: Mark help us out here. This is the question understanding.

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Speaker 5: You didn't have the ability to actually get this done,

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Speaker 5: complete it, complete the mission right? What was the urgency

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Speaker 5: from your reporting and what you've heard and what you know,

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Speaker 5: What was the urgency that you had to have a

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Speaker 5: sneak attack pro Harbord type strike last Thursday night to

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Speaker 5: kind of as the initiating event of this conflict. What

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Speaker 5: was it that, if anything more than just the urgency

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Speaker 5: of the matter.

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Speaker 7: And since their stated object actives.

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Speaker 5: Have been from the beginning, including what you said, the

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Speaker 5: acquiescence of prompts administration to go. When did this because

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Speaker 5: this clearly shifted to a decapitation regime change, And we

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Speaker 5: said on Friday when we started our coverage that this

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Speaker 5: was a decapitation at least of the military, maybe not

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Speaker 5: there total, but the senior military command, even people outside

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Speaker 5: the nuclear program. It was a decaped capitation looking like

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Speaker 5: regime change at the time. So because to us it

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Speaker 5: looked pretty pretty obvious. But what was the urgency to

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Speaker 5: do this? And then when did they get into the

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Speaker 5: upsell Let's try to upsell the Americans on regime change, sir.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can't speak to not yeah it's mind frame.

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Speaker 3: But as described to me, this was the time where

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Speaker 3: it would never be more propitious for Israel to strike.

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Speaker 3: The Iran was on, its proxies were gone, it was

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Speaker 3: close to developing a new alleged it definitely had a

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Speaker 3: missile program that was a dire threat to Israel. Trump

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Speaker 3: had finally said I'm not going to hold you back,

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Speaker 3: and so it was go time. I don't know all

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Speaker 3: the factors and all the intelligence. I think if you

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Speaker 3: were to feed all of these factors that are laid

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Speaker 3: out into chat GBT or some sort of logic game,

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Speaker 3: it would have told BB to make the strike when

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Speaker 3: he did so. That is just a guess on my part,

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Speaker 3: based on just my understanding filter through others of what

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Speaker 3: Israel's calculus was. The Administration has told us, and we

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Speaker 3: have reported at Axios that yeah, the Israelis want regime change.

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Speaker 3: We don't. That's not really our concern. I was told

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Speaker 3: by a senior administration official and as evidence of that,

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Speaker 3: Natanyahu did want to strike the Ayatola we are told

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Speaker 3: and Donald Trump said, don't do it. When I asked

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Speaker 3: this official why not, they said, consider this to be

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Speaker 3: it's a case of the iotola you know versus the

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Speaker 3: iotola you don't know. And Trump still wanted sort of

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Speaker 3: more time to make a deal, still might want some

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Speaker 3: more time. But to Jack's point, or the pressure really

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Speaker 3: is ratcheting up when.

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Speaker 5: You say the pressure is ratching up, because there's colleagues

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Speaker 5: of yours that are in the party. Because right now

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Speaker 5: as we sit here on Saturday morning, audience, there are

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Speaker 5: two schools that thought what's happening. One is that the

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Speaker 5: party is on that a decision not only has been made,

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Speaker 5: but it looks like it's totally futile to try to

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Speaker 5: negotiate with. There's even not enough guys there. You don't

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Speaker 5: know who's making decisions. They're talking about they need to

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Speaker 5: cease fire. The Israelis are not going to do that.

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Speaker 5: So there's a party is on school and then there's

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Speaker 5: others said, hey, this two weeks thing may play out, Caputa,

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Speaker 5: from everything you know currently, because you're working this weekend.

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Speaker 7: Where do you think we stand, sir?

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Speaker 3: In all of my comment stations, people think it's more

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Speaker 3: likely than less likely that the United States is going

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Speaker 3: to strike a better pardon me, Iran. However, it hasn't

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Speaker 3: happened yet. Now all the pieces aren't in place. But

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Speaker 3: maybe the party's not on, but the hall is rented,

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Speaker 3: the bunting is up, there's punch in the bowl, and

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Speaker 3: some people are walking in with hidden blasts of booze.

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Speaker 4: Sir?

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Speaker 5: How can we follow you on social media? How do

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Speaker 5: we follow you today? Because I know the audience is

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Speaker 5: going to want to do that. Where did they go.

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Speaker 3: More active on Twitter than anywhere else? At mark A Caputo,

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Speaker 3: it's marked with a C. There I am Sandy. Technically

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Speaker 3: my first name is Mark Antonio, so easier to remember

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Speaker 3: with a C than otherwise. But I have the extra

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Speaker 3: A in there because someone else had the Mark Capudo handle.

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Speaker 3: I want to go found it.

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Speaker 5: Last question, did your father in your knowledge and study

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Speaker 5: of military history?

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Speaker 7: Was that? Did that come from your father?

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Speaker 5: Or is this some thing got you interested later as

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Speaker 5: you realized who your father was.

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Speaker 3: Well, I put out the sheld like it. This is this,

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Speaker 3: you know, the klaud Switz, Joan Mini. These are the

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Speaker 3: books from Officers Candidate school that he had. This says Danang,

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Speaker 3: June twenty third, almost almost the anniversary of that nineteen

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Speaker 3: sixty five. So that's the klou Switz. You know, there's Vegesius,

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Speaker 3: which is probably my favorite book, Moutsea Toungue. But these

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Speaker 3: are from the OCS from the Marine Corps back in

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Speaker 3: the day. But he after he was a soldier or

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Speaker 3: a marine, he became a foreign correspondent and covered a

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Speaker 3: number of conflicts in the Middle East and elsewhere, putting

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Speaker 3: the i think the Six Day War in Israel war

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Speaker 3: and Eritrea in Ethiopia. So he did quite a bit

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Speaker 3: of a foreign correspondent work and he left that line

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Speaker 3: of work after well almost after he was shot in

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Speaker 3: de Root, not fatally, but when it went to hell

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Speaker 3: there and I guess what's seventy six seventy seven, that's

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Speaker 3: when it was sort of time to get out of

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Speaker 3: the combat zones.

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Speaker 7: Mark Compudo, thank you very much for sharing this.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, appreciate you guys. Take it easy. Good to

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Speaker 3: see you, Jack, you.

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Speaker 7: Pasovic thoughts well, Steve.

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Speaker 10: The one thing that I would add to some of

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Speaker 10: the calculus on here is that in Israel it's not

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Speaker 10: as if bb Netanyaho is currently sitting on top of

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Speaker 10: a strong coalition the way that President Trump is. President

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Speaker 10: Trump's currently fifty four to fifty five percent popularity among

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Speaker 10: the American people bb Netanyah, who is currently around thirty

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Speaker 10: percent among Israel And this is mostly because of the

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Speaker 10: situation regarding Gaza, and he faced just about two weeks ago,

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Speaker 10: right right on the eve of when all these strikes

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Speaker 10: kicked off, he faced a serious challenge to his premiership

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Speaker 10: in that his coalition almost broke apart and he narrowly

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Speaker 10: survived a leadership vote by just single digit votes. On

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Speaker 10: the question of this this ultra Orthodox party wanted to

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Speaker 10: pull out and they didn't want to do the conscription.

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Speaker 10: They didn't want to be conscripted anymore. And this has

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Speaker 10: been a longstanding issue of THEIRS in Israel. So uh

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Speaker 10: and and there are also elements by the way of

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Speaker 10: that I'm told of the Israelis national security infrastructure saying

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Speaker 10: wait a minute, is this being done out of political

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Speaker 10: concerns for bb netaw who personally, or is this being

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Speaker 10: done out of any you know, claiming that it's being

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Speaker 10: done out of national security concerns? And so you know,

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Speaker 10: I would just like to throw that in the mix,

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Speaker 10: because we do always have to consider the political calculations

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Speaker 10: here as well as the national security calculations and the

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Speaker 10: intelligence and that really could be the question for why,

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Speaker 10: as anyone can can agree, Stee, how many different versions

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Speaker 10: of the intel have we heard at this point, right,

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Speaker 10: We've heard they're about to have it, They're going to

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Speaker 10: have it in two days. Well, now it's actually the

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Speaker 10: delivery system. No, no, no, it's the enrichment. Then it's

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Speaker 10: a it's a month away, then it's a year away.

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Speaker 10: Then you know, and you've got Israeli military telling AFP

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Speaker 10: last night the Associated Reepress that they because of the

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Speaker 10: initial strikes and the runs that have gone over the

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Speaker 10: past week and a half or so. Here that Iron's

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Speaker 10: missile program has been or their nuclear program has been

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Speaker 10: delayed by two to three years, and yao, and the

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Speaker 10: New York Post has it up right now. I will

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Speaker 10: know Murdoch Vaper says, has net Nyahu is saying we

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Speaker 10: can go it alone. So there's it's all over the

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Speaker 10: map here. And I think that one of the reasons

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Speaker 10: that a lot of Americans are scratching their heads at

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Speaker 10: the lightning fast speed that all of these events are

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Speaker 10: moving is that we haven't had to sit down and

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Speaker 10: have a curious adult conversation about why this had to

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Speaker 10: happen right now, And no one can really kinness down

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Speaker 10: on a clear answer on that.

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Speaker 7: Jack, Can you hang on?

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Speaker 5: I know you're you're busy with the family dab, but

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Speaker 5: I just want to hold you through this short break

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Speaker 5: because I want to talk about the ballistic missile program

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Speaker 5: and the citizens of Israel are taking some serious incoming.

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Speaker 5: You've got to talk about the dome, how it's worked,

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Speaker 5: the American involvement, the UH, the naval assets that are helping,

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Speaker 5: the air assets that are helping. Because an underreported story

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Speaker 5: is that the citizens of Israel and and BB's I

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Speaker 5: think his his pollings has got to be.

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Speaker 7: At a record high.

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Speaker 5: They are I believe all the controversy around BB has

746
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Speaker 5: been has been I think settled because they are obviously

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Speaker 5: very focused on taking out the Persians that they to them,

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Speaker 5: they know it's a it's a it's an existential threat

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Speaker 5: and and uh. And there is conflicting and reporting this morning,

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Speaker 5: both agency Free Press saying the Israeli saying they've noted

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Speaker 5: the nuclear program back two or three years, and BB

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Speaker 5: telling the New York Posts they can go it alone

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Speaker 5: to finish the job, finish what they started. Short commercial break,

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Speaker 5: we got Poso for one more segment, so let's take

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Speaker 5: advantage of it.

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Speaker 7: Short break back in the moment, we.

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Speaker 4: Literally let's take down Hugh's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 3: Bath.

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Speaker 5: I'm informed by the engine room that it is not

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Speaker 5: closs of it. It's von Molk about the von Schleiefland plan.

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Speaker 5: That any plan only survives, no matter how well thought,

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Speaker 5: through first contact with enemy. Jack Posobic those officer candidate

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Speaker 5: books that Capudo's dad had to read an Officer Candida

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Speaker 5: school at Quantico back in the mid nineteen sixty before

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Speaker 5: he went to Vietnam as a first lieutenant infantry officer.

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Speaker 5: Are the ones that you've had to read and I

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Speaker 5: had to read talk to me about or Mike Tyson

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Speaker 5: put it more, put it better or more succinctly. Everybody's

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Speaker 5: got a plan until in the box, everybody's got a

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Speaker 5: plan toil. You get punched right in the mouth, sir, well.

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Speaker 10: Steve, if that's right. You and I went up through

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Speaker 10: ocs up there in Newport. I don't know when you

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Speaker 10: went through. I went through a winter. And if anyone's

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Speaker 10: joining the Navy and you're going up to Navy ocs,

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Speaker 10: do not go to Newport in the winter. That was

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Speaker 10: one of the worst mistakes I ever made. The covers

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Speaker 10: blowing off all over the place in the snow and

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Speaker 10: in the rain and all the rest of it, and

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Speaker 10: you have to run across the parade ground to go

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Speaker 10: get it. Not not a good look for butterbar Pasovic

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Speaker 10: in that one. But the the enemy always gets a vote.

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Speaker 10: And I see these people on cable news and so,

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Speaker 10: and I just looked at them and say, did you serve?

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Speaker 10: Did you serve? Did you serve? Did you serve? Have

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Speaker 10: you actually been in operation. Have you seen what happens

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Speaker 10: when when troops get involved and you get so many people,

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Speaker 10: Steve and they have this this Marvel movie thinking, you know,

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Speaker 10: like at Star Wars and Luke Skywalker is going to

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Speaker 10: fly up and oh you just drop one missile in

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Speaker 10: and it's going to blow up the whole desk start

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Speaker 10: and I'm sorry, that's just not how the real world works. Plus,

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Speaker 10: the Iranians also understand how our bunker busters work. And

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Speaker 10: Capudo mentioned the MIT professor. I said, wait a minute,

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Speaker 10: there's there's a lot of problems with this plan. You've

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Speaker 10: got angles upon angles that you have to deal with.

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Speaker 10: You're talking about reinforced granite that has they have ways

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Speaker 10: to deflect the explosion. They know about our bunker busters.

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Speaker 10: It was designed to protect from bunker busters. All of

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Speaker 10: which to say, this isn't going to be one cell swoop.

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Speaker 10: It's going to take multiple missions. It's going to take

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Speaker 10: multiple flights. So you're talking potentially if each each D

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Speaker 10: two can carry tow and these things the size of

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Speaker 10: a bus. Okay, these bombs, these massive, massive bombs, and

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Speaker 10: so if each one goes over, so you've got two

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Speaker 10: in tandem, they're flying sorties over potentially over Now that's

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Speaker 10: that's that's you know, pray to God that nothing happened,

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Speaker 10: no malfunctions, no anti aircraft, you know, fire comes at them.

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Speaker 10: Sure they're gonna be able to fly high enough for that,

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Speaker 10: I assume. But you've got to hit this thing dead

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Speaker 10: on each time, possibly ten strikes to get the job done.

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Speaker 10: And then there's real questions as to whether or not

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Speaker 10: the technology is still just going to survive. And really,

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Speaker 10: all you're going to do is set them back, and

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Speaker 10: you have to be back here in two years when

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Speaker 10: President Trump is still president, because they're gonna be able

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Speaker 10: to dig it out or reconstitute it somewhere else. And

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Speaker 10: so there's there's serious questions of look, if you put

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Speaker 10: in this much, that's why that we're gonna get sucked

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Speaker 10: into a wider thing. And that's what a lot of

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Speaker 10: people are are are scratching the headsone and I'm and

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Speaker 10: I'm sick by the way of this smear campaign, Steve,

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Speaker 10: of people calling you an isolationists and calling all the

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Speaker 10: maga isolationists and saying, oh your said, no, no, excuse me,

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Speaker 10: we are America first populist nationalists was President Trump and isolationist.

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Speaker 10: When he posed the Iraq War with President Trump and isolationists,

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Speaker 10: we said, we need to get our troops out of

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Speaker 10: harms way in Syria where they're not doing anything, sitting

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Speaker 10: there as human fields for ever, all the chaos that's

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Speaker 10: going on in the land, as President Trump said, the

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Speaker 10: land of blood and death. No, he was an isolationist.

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Speaker 10: He was putting American interests first. And because he understands

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Speaker 10: by the way, he's read history, right, and you know,

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Speaker 10: see these neo cons that's the problem. They don't they

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Speaker 10: don't read any history. They're not reading clouds, they're not

835
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Speaker 10: listening to the word I'm not doing any of this stuff.

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Speaker 10: So they don't know about the danger of imperial over stretch.

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Speaker 10: Because the danger of imperial overstretch is that you forget

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Speaker 10: about the heartland, you forget about your core population. And

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Speaker 10: the core population of the United States is hurting right now.

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Speaker 10: That's why President Trump is the president. That's why we

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Speaker 10: don't have Jeb Bush as the president. Jeb Bush, who's

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Speaker 10: now the president of you know, the anti Iran coalition

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Speaker 10: over there by the way, It's like the band is

844
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Speaker 10: getting back together over on that side.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, talk hold, hold on, take it, take a second.

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Speaker 7: Take a second.

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Speaker 5: That was sent to us by the engine room. Talk

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Speaker 5: about Jeb Bush actually chairs a group, right, that's the

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Speaker 5: Anti Ron coalition, Sir.

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Speaker 7: Dave.

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Speaker 10: Let's go back to basics, all right. The Bush family

852
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Speaker 10: is an oil family. They are oil men. Right, there

853
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Speaker 10: will be blood. The great film, Paul Thomason. Go go

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Speaker 10: watch that, right, you understand the Bushes, Go watch that.

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Speaker 10: They are still looking licking their chops, looking at the

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Speaker 10: oil fields of Iran, saying, you know something, we couldn't

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Speaker 10: quite get all the oil out of Iraq, and so

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Speaker 10: we go and look over at Iran, and you know what,

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Speaker 10: there's all that oil there. And you know we had

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Speaker 10: we had access to it under the Sha And then

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Speaker 10: Motigade came up and he was trying to nationalize everything.

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Speaker 10: So got rid of him and we got a new

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Speaker 10: shot in. But then these but then these testy little

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Speaker 10: Islamis came up and now we got we we got

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Speaker 10: kicked out again. And well first it was the British,

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Speaker 10: and then we got kicked out as well because we

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Speaker 10: tried to back till the British because after the war

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Speaker 10: they couldn't These guys Steve. They don't read any of

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Speaker 10: the history. They don't read any of the history. They

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Speaker 10: just say, you know what this is. This means money

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Speaker 10: for us, money and power. And they don't look at

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Speaker 10: the broader scope of things. And and here's here's something

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Speaker 10: that somebody was saying to me earlier, said, oh, Jack,

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Speaker 10: you're just you're just pushing Iranian and Chinese Narrativesay, excuse

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Speaker 10: me a whole a second. Our carriers just dropped coverage

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Speaker 10: in the South China Sea to go to SITCOM, which

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Speaker 10: means that China now has a freehand. China is now

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Speaker 10: operating more carriers in the South trying to see the

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Speaker 10: United States for the first time in history. They got two,

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Speaker 10: the Shandong and the Landing. Then you got Russia. They said,

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Speaker 10: wait a minute, who is benefited by one hundred and

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Speaker 10: fifty dollars barrel gas? Well that's Russia. One hundred fifty

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Speaker 10: dollars will Russia is benefited. That fuels the coffers of

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Speaker 10: the Kremlin to be able to ground and pound, as

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Speaker 10: they've been doing to the Ukrainian army. So Putin's going

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Speaker 10: to sit back and say, hey, don't do this. But

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Speaker 10: if you want to put money in my pocket. You

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Speaker 10: know I'm not going to stop you, all right. That's

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Speaker 10: what kicked off. That whole thing was Nordstream too. And

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Speaker 10: so to these people that are looking at this saying, oh, oh,

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Speaker 10: it's going to be good for America, good for America,

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Speaker 10: you're not looking at the wider scope of the consequences

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Speaker 10: of your actions.

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Speaker 5: Jack, I know you've got a bounce, You've got family obligations.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully we can grab you later in the afternoon if

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Speaker 5: we do this life coverage.

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Speaker 7: We're working this through right now. Where do people go?

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Speaker 10: Jack?

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Speaker 5: On your social media and your social media feeds.

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Speaker 10: Steve, I'm here, I'm tracking it all its human events daily.

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Speaker 10: By the way, last night Charlie Kirk and I put

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Speaker 10: up a huge episode of thought Crime. I would encourage

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Speaker 10: everyone to go check that out on my podcast, Apple,

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Speaker 10: Spotify and Charlie's as well. Where we got into all

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Speaker 10: of this, We got into every single piece of this book, genesis,

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Speaker 10: Ted Cruz, all the scripture, all the theology, all the

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Speaker 10: all the politics. Who walked through chapter and verse, including

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Speaker 10: the Bunker Busters, and whether or not Fox News is

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Speaker 10: telling you the truth about the physics on.

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Speaker 5: This Jack Pisobic, go with God today. We'll see this afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Tucker Carlson, Bennie Johnson, the Great Charlie Kirk, Jack Pisobic,

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Speaker 5: toss the worm in there, folks, done a pretty good

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Speaker 5: job and making sure you got all the information so

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Speaker 5: that you can in the fog of war, because there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of fog out there, folks that you can

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Speaker 5: see clearly. We're not gonna let this be like the

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Speaker 5: Iraq War. We're not gonna let all this cheerleading and

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Speaker 5: the roads are gonna be thrown down there. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: give you a reality check. Make sure you fully understand

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Speaker 5: what we're getting into. Because we get into it, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna have to see it through, right right.

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Speaker 7: Mister Vanner. Short commercial break back in a moment