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Speaker 1: All right, here we go Pack twelve fans. This one's

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Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles, and only

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Speaker 1: the truth lives here Packed twelve Apostles.

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Speaker 2: As I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amsden, and this is

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Speaker 2: the PAC twelve Apostles, And you guys make sure that

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Speaker 2: you leave a five star rating wherever you listen to podcasts,

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Speaker 2: tell a friend about the show and everything in between.

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Speaker 2: Of so much, I mean, this is jam pack. Today

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Speaker 2: we have the PAC twelve Conference Championship game. The uh,

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Speaker 2: there's so much movement. There's been a defection in LA

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Speaker 2: coaching changes, future of the conference, transfer portal going crazy,

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Speaker 2: and we got bowl season. We're gonna get more into

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Speaker 2: bowl season next week. But and a recup cap of

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Speaker 2: the entire year. But you guys make sure that you

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Speaker 2: guys share with a friend. Go over to the YouTube

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Speaker 2: channel George Rice for right now. In a couple weeks

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Speaker 2: it'll be rebranded just to Unafraid Show and Ralph if

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Speaker 2: you can tell the folks what's coming up in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Man, I say, keep it tuned to the Unafraid Show

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Speaker 3: YouTube channel. We're obviously got to change up this show.

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Speaker 3: The branding this show a little bit with the disappearance

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Speaker 3: of the PAC twelve Rest in Peace. But I will

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Speaker 3: say this, in twenty twenty four Unafraid show George Reister,

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Speaker 3: all the content will not look like it has been

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Speaker 3: run by Larry Scott or George Kleaevkoff.

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Speaker 4: That's for sure.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's important. I think that's important that

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Speaker 2: it looks like it's being run by competent individuals instead

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Speaker 2: of the incompetency that was run by the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, though, let's start with the PAC twelve championship game.

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Speaker 2: I was there, you were there. That was my first

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Speaker 2: time at Allegiance Stadium. And if you have a chance

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Speaker 2: to go to Allegiance Stadium for anything, go It's an

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Speaker 2: amazing stadium. Like the seating is amazing. Like one of

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Speaker 2: the things I hate about the Rose Bowl is that,

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Speaker 2: Like it's a it's it's squished it. It's like they

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Speaker 2: have not taken into account that humans have grown, that

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Speaker 2: they're that they're an inch and a half taller than

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Speaker 2: that damn stadium, maybe two inches. The Raids branding was dope.

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Speaker 2: The the press box is like it feels like you're

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Speaker 2: The the switees are dope. I had no complaints and

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Speaker 2: it's super easy to get to because you go through

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Speaker 2: there's essentially no parking there. I love it, Ralph, I

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Speaker 3: It was very cool, very much enjoyed my time there.

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Speaker 3: It was cool to hang out with you, even though

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Speaker 3: It got a little emotional when Oregon retook the lead

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Speaker 3: It was maybe sixty forty Oregon fans and it didn't

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Speaker 3: Like you brought the acoustics in there, It felt like

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Speaker 3: it was kind of a special privilege, a special treat

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Speaker 3: to sit next to Ryan Abraham of podcasts The Champions,

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't it was shitty. It was terrible. It's terrible. No,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, all year long.

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Speaker 3: You made several arguments that they should be number one.

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Speaker 3: exactly what Washington has been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, years and truthfully, so to go into the game,

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Speaker 2: the first two drives by Oregon, I thought were nerves,

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks and he never got comfortable all night. And yes,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was tough, man, it was. It was

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Speaker 2: And it's ironic because the game really mirrored the SEC

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Speaker 2: Washington did a phenomenal job getting the ball out of

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Speaker 2: no excuse. Washington kept the ball on the field and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you brought a third down. Washington dominated

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Speaker 3: to me, that was really the key to the game.

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Speaker 3: Michael Pennix made a couple of just absolutely insane, insane throws.

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Speaker 2: The one that almost dropped of the the one where

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a one where Roma Dunze lined up

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Speaker 3: it just took too long to get there. Ten nothing

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Speaker 2: Twenty to three. It was twenty to three at one point,

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Speaker 2: And we do not want to give them the ball back.

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Speaker 2: Mark mark Rick when he was there prior to Kirby Smart,

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Speaker 2: How many times did Mark Rick break their hearts as

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Speaker 3: Forty forty years of of of a dry season before

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Speaker 3: Kaylin de Bore has to lose. At some point, he's

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Speaker 3: And the nice thing for Oklahoma fans they got Jackson Arnold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I believe that the future for Washington

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Speaker 3: It doesn't reflect definitely doesn't reflect well on Chip Kelly

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Speaker 2: Stand by your man.

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Speaker 3: I did think maybe Chip thinks because Bill McGovern did

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Speaker 2: That's a fact. Jack.

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Speaker 3: And they they might have held on to Clay Helton

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean they things are gonna have to

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to go quick with a new quarterback.

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Speaker 2: been up in quite some sometime. They're like Texas hoping

438
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: to be back. But the traditional powers that have had

439
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: that have had a monopoly on the sport. It's no longer.

440
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: It's no longer going to be like that. I mean,

441
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: you saw Georgia be in struggles and Alabama being struggles

442
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: this year. And I love that. I love the fact

443
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: that that you won't be able to just roll your

444
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: helmets out on the field and just win. I like

445
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: the fact that you got to earn wins and you

446
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 2: can't take any week lightly. That's the amazing part.

447
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice, it's nice. I mean, the people there's

448
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: a lot of people worried that the transfer portal is

449
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: rooting college football, but with the expanded playoff your opportunity

450
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: to go from zero to hero is an all time

451
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: I it really is. And you look at it, and

452
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: just because the players getting good transfers in doesn't mean

453
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: that they're all gonna gel. That didn't happen for USC

454
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: you look at it.

455
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 4: This year.

456
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: They took Dorian Singer from Arizona and struggled to find

457
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: a way to use him. They took key on Bars

458
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 3: from Arizona. He didn't even play, you know. They took Sipilicky,

459
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: the punter from Arizona State. They don't even punt that much.

460
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: You know, players are gonna figure out that going to

461
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 3: a destination that's got a little bit more prestige and

462
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: that can then that can help the bank account out

463
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: in the short term might not necessarily be the best

464
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: destination for you. And you're gonna see players bounce back.

465
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: Where Leake Brown was one of the prize recruits that

466
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 3: USC was able to bring in, and now Leake Brown

467
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: is in the transfer portal looking for somewhere else to

468
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: play because guess what, I don't run the ball that much.

469
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: You know, they got in a running back transfer from

470
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 3: University of South Carolina didn't even use them that much

471
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: until the end of the season, so which is wild. Yeah,

472
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: And just because the transfer portal exists doesn't mean that

473
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: a team is going to be able to know how

474
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: to use the players that they're getting in. And I

475
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: think players will wise up to the fact that you

476
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: have to go to the right destination that gives you

477
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: as much playing time as possible, you know, because the

478
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: same things are happening in the transfer portal that happened

479
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: on the high school level. You get ten four stars

480
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the football, ten four and

481
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: five stars like Texas A and M did before the

482
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two season, and they get there, and number one,

483
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: they're young, so they're not playing right away. And number two,

484
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: they all play the same position, so they're all messing

485
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: with each other's depth chart roles. And then you see

486
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: those players that made up one of the greatest recruiting

487
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: classes in history, they all bounce out. Walter Nolan in

488
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: the portal, Anthony Lucas moved on to you know, to

489
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: USC before last season. You know, this is the type

490
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 3: of stuff talking about that like you can load up

491
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: through the portal, but it still has to work itself

492
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: out on the depth chart and on the field. And

493
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: when you have twelve teams that have the ability to

494
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: go to the College Football Playoff, and when everybody kind

495
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 3: of gets on a higher level as far as nil

496
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: and what they're able to offer players, you're gonna see

497
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: players spread out more. And you pointed out in the

498
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: video you made Baylor went from two wins to twelve

499
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: in one season. TCU went from five wins to thirteen

500
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: in one season. And then we had teams lose a

501
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: bunch of transfers before this last year, before the twenty

502
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: twenty three season, and get better because the players that

503
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: stayed were the ones that wanted to be there and

504
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: that helped the team chemistry. Oklahoma State won nine wins

505
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: even though the whole team went into the portal. Missouri

506
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: won ten games even though a bunch of their players

507
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: went into the portal. The ones that mattered State and

508
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: I talked about Arizona losing all those players to USC.

509
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: They had two more wins than the USC did this year. Like,

510
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: you can survive the portal era if you are going

511
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: about things the right way. One of the people out

512
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: there that is experimenting with even supporting losing players, it's

513
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Kenny Dillingham. Kenny Dillingham is straight up like complimenting the

514
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: players on the way out the door. Ryan Clark went

515
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: on TV and said that Kenny Dillingham called Marcus Freeman

516
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: at Notre Dame while Jordan Clark was on campus taking

517
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: a transfer visit and talked him up. He probably didn't

518
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 3: talk I mean, Notre Dame knows who they want. They

519
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: would have probably taken him anyway. But to call Marcus

520
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: Freeman while that player's on campus and be like, don't

521
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: blow this, like you need this kid.

522
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: On your team.

523
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that type of stuff. I think that's gonna

524
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: I think it could come back to you now. I

525
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: went to Arizona State, and I want to believe that

526
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: it could. It's not great to lose players, and I

527
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: talk to fans every day that they feel like they're

528
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 3: on the verge of quitting college football because of it.

529
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: I think you should hang on. I think it's gonna

530
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: work out. I think college football is gonna get more exciting.

531
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: And I think the players in your locker room you're

532
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: gonna appreciate them even more because you know they have

533
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: a choice and they chose you. It's gonna be easier

534
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: to root for them. And I think more of an

535
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: impact as a fan. You get more of an impact

536
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: now as a fan than you ever could before. And

537
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't hate the Portal era. Every

538
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: single time a player leaves Wyoming. I'm a big Wyoming fan.

539
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 3: Every single time a player leaves Wyoming, I'm like, Oh,

540
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: we're gonna suck forever.

541
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 4: Well guess what, No, we're not. We're going to our

542
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: third straight bowl game for the first time in school history.

543
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: In the Portal era, where everyone has left Wyoming, every

544
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 4: good player. There's multiple Wyoming players that.

545
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: You ask because remember last year when they were when

546
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 2: Jacob Cowing left and other guys left, you were like,

547
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna suck, We're gonna be bad. And then all

548
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: of a sudden, rising from the ashes, here come to

549
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: Cowboys and yeah, I mean you can do it too.

550
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah Arizona Cowing, Oh, Arizona for sure, but Cowing, you know,

551
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: went to Arizona. Cowing was a UTEP guy. But Titus Swym,

552
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: Titus Swin's maybe the best running back that that that

553
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: Wyoming has had. And since Xavian Validate, who also left

554
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: and went to Arizona State, every single year this happens,

555
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: and Wyoming is on the verge of winning nine games,

556
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: so the first time in forever. And so because you

557
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: have the players that are there at the group of

558
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: five level and they realize like, wow, if I show out,

559
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: I might not be an NFL guy, but I could

560
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: capitalize at this level. So people are playing harder than

561
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: they've ever played before.

562
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, they yes they are. Now when you have

563
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: so many players jumping into portal, how do you like,

564
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: what is your you know, expectations for Bowl games? Because

565
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 2: Kansas State, do you know how many scholarship quarterbacks they

566
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: have on their roster right now?

567
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: How many zero? Oh don't they have a bowl coming up?

568
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Yes? Zero, they're all in the portal, all of them.

569
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: That's not good.

570
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: And you have Michigan State, same example. Nothing in the room.

571
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: That's not great, except for they don't have a bowl game.

572
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 4: But if you're not in a New Year six bowl,

573
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: like people say there are too many bowl games, I

574
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: don't agree. I love bowls, but a bowl, if you're

575
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: not in a New Year six bowl, a bowl is

576
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: a future showcase. That's all you have to tell yourself.

577
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: That's it. A bowl is a future showcase. You have

578
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: the opportunity to look at some players that you wouldn't

579
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: have looked at otherwise, and you get to take a vacation.

580
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: If you're one of those, like go to a bowl

581
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: in person.

582
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: People.

583
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: Bowls are gonna be fun regardless, you just have to

584
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: have a different mindset about it. Future showcase. If you're

585
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: not in a New Year six bowl, you're not in

586
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: a big money bowl. All it is is a future showcase.

587
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: And in some of those circumstances is just a future showcase.

588
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: I have enjoyed this week, and I know you're not.

589
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: In the Facebook groups but I'm in a bunch of

590
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: Pac twelve Facebook groups. People have been trolling Washington fans

591
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: all week long saying that Penis jumped into the portal.

592
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: And it's like, I'm talking hundreds of posts of people

593
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: like faking tweets, fake yeah, yeah, yeah, like all week

594
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: long on IF and anybody who listens. If you're on IF,

595
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: you definitely send any to George that you see. But

596
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: if you're on Facebook, like every single Pack twelve group

597
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: is just constant posts about Michael Pennis not playing in.

598
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: The College football Playoff.

599
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: It's all fake, but it is. It is very very

600
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: funny that people continue to troll Washington fans and scare

601
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: them to death on the way out the door. But

602
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: you know, if you like, let's say Bo Nicks doesn't

603
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: play against Liberty, which is certainly his right. He's been

604
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 3: in college football long enough, then as an Oregon fan,

605
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: you should just be excited to see what Ty Thompson

606
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: can do. Right, it's a future showcase. This game doesn't

607
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: really matter that much. I mean, it kind of matters.

608
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: You don't want to lose to Liberty, but you know,

609
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: you do get the opportunity to see to see somebody

610
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: else in that role and that can be kind of

611
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: fun as well.

612
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: Oh speaking of that, bro dude. Okay, so now imagine

613
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: imagine this, right, imagine this about what's going on in

614
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: the in the transfer portal? Right, what what what's going

615
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: on with the transfer portal? And how this is not

616
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: only impacting like rosters, they are impacting like just all

617
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: sorts of decisions and high school recruiting. Right. Okay, so Ralph,

618
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: you have so you mentioned ty Thompson. Right, ty Thompson

619
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: has been in Oregon for three years? Right, what do

620
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: you think the chances are that he plays a down

621
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: at Oregon? Well down as the starter.

622
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 4: Beyond this year?

623
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: No, no, just period.

624
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: He could start the ball.

625
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh, bot Nicks is playing in the bowl gamefy?

626
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: Well, then if he's playing in the bowl game, then

627
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 3: then probably not because they have recruited over the last

628
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: three quarterbacks.

629
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Speaker 2: Yep. And do you know what's happening at USC.

630
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: They have a quarterback that was supposed to be waiting

631
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: in the wings who's supposed to be very good that

632
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: they will probably recruit over.

633
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: They are trying to get a transfer quarterback they were

634
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: trying to get. They're also trying to get Dylan Gabriel

635
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: prior to him, you know, like, and they are making

636
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: Max offers around the around there trying to do that.

637
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: You may have cam Ward over at Ohio State or

638
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: Florida State. That's where the likely destinations are for him.

639
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 4: He would fit at USC.

640
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a lot of other places

641
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: where he would fit, but I but yeah, you should

642
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: consider USC.

643
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: But they have Malachi Nelson at USC and Miller Moss.

644
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: Miller Moss was a four star kid. Nelson was a

645
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: five star kid. Some people had him number number one.

646
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: They don't care, and I don't care.

647
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: But if they don't think that you are the guy,

648
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: like if they aren't one hundred percent sure, because at

649
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 2: USC they're not going to be willing to pack twelve.

650
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: Coaches have been nothing, if not absolutely god awful at

651
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: knowing which quarterbacks on their roster can actually play football.

652
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: So if you don't think your guy on the bench

653
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: is the guy, you also need to realize.

654
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: That you're probably wrong. You're probably wrong that PAC twelve

655
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 4: has proven nothing, if not they have no idea which

656
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: quarterbacks are good. Jonathan Smith, who everybody gave all this

657
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 4: love to, He's at Michigan State. Now he was legitimately

658
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 4: terrible at knowing which of the quarterbacks on his roster

659
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: to play. David Shaw, who people respect, is like the

660
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 4: statesmen of college football, the principled person of college football,

661
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: willing to speak truth to the powers that be that

662
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: upheld the standard that Jim Harbaughs set while he was

663
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 4: coach at Stanford. David Shaw could not have been worse

664
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 4: at identifying which quarterback on his roster was actually any

665
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 4: good going into this year. Is pretty obvious that Chip

666
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: Kelly did not know what he was doing. Utah famously

667
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: thought Charlie Brewer was going to be better than what

668
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: they had on their bench, what the players voted as

669
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: team captain, even though he wasn't named the starter in

670
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: cam Rising like this is uh, this is one thing

671
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 4: that Pack twelve coaches have been just truly bad. At

672
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: Mario Cristobal, the whole Anthony Brown Tyler Shuck thing maddening, maddening. Right,

673
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 4: Washington couldn't figure out what to do at quarterback after

674
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: Jake Browning left. Shout out to Cincinnati Bengals legend Jake Browning,

675
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: by the way, that so this whole thing of like

676
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: if they don't one hundred percent think that you're the guy. Well,

677
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: maybe you're just terrible at it, and you have to

678
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 4: give them the opportunity to show it. You have to,

679
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 4: because it's gonna be really annoying, really really really annoying.

680
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: When Malachi Nelson leaves and blows up or ty Thompson

681
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 3: leaves and blows up.

682
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 4: You wouldn't have.

683
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: Loved it that much if Texas Tech held onto that

684
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: lead with Tyler Shuck in the first game of this season.

685
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: Right, very very true, bro, very true.

686
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm just saying for these teams, be careful if you're

687
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: not convinced by the guy that you have in house,

688
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 4: because you haven't seen what he can do on the field.

689
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: Look around the Pac twelve and just know that, like

690
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: if if packed off coaches have been anything, it's been

691
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: terrible quarterback evaluators, just terrible. Some of these teams have

692
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: lucked into the best quarterback again and again and again,

693
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: going back to the Pac ten, going back to to

694
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: Andrew Walter not getting the start over Chad Christensen and

695
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: then taking that over like it's just not you know,

696
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 4: it's just it's a thing that we've seen too often.

697
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: So just since we have been talking, right, Yeah, I

698
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 2: was on the Utah board. Mikey Matthews to the portal.

699
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: From Utah, Nate Johnson in the portal. Who did they start?

700
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: The pig farmer? Yeah, in the portal.

701
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: See see the the pig farmer and Nate Johnson to

702
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: the portal. Actually, the pig farmer to the portal makes

703
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: sense to me because he got a taste of starting, buddy,

704
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 2: and he knows that cam Risy is going to start.

705
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: So what does the pig farmer not want to do?

706
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: Sit on the bench now, He's like, I'm out there

707
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: having fun. I do not want to go back to

708
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: subjugated to a backup role. That's awful, right, So it

709
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense to me for him to

710
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: hop in the portal. Nate Johnson was a freshman. He

711
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: needs to develop as a passer. So unless he's going

712
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: down a division or two, then you know, either G

713
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: five or FCS. I don't know if that makes a

714
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: lot of sense, right, My goodness, Oregon State has been

715
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: decimated by the portal. But listen, I knew that Aiden

716
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: Childs was leaving prior to you know, as soon as

717
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: the Jonathan Smith rumors started, I was like, oh, oh

718
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: Aiden Aidan's out of there, buddy.

719
00:40:59,160 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: And.

720
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 2: But obviously I'm not going to divulge people's personal business

721
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: prior to it to prior to it happening. But he's

722
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: likely headed to East Lansing with his former head coach.

723
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: They're all packed twelve tight end he's in the portal.

724
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: I don't know where he goes. He's going to be

725
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: very very wanted. They are going to lose a lot

726
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: of players. And I don't think that Oregon State people

727
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: really because I posted there's a video on the channel

728
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: about Jonathan Smith leaving, and I don't know if it

729
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: fully sunk in how that was going to impact the

730
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: rest of their.

731
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: Rosters right.

732
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: Right, But shout out to Trent Ray, it's a good

733
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: pick to succeed yes Smith in whatever it is they're

734
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: going to do next is they work to fill out

735
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 3: next year's schedule. But Jonathan Smith, they gave him eleven

736
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: million annually for his assistance. We talked on this podcast

737
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: about how there's no way in hell mil Tucker could

738
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: have turned down Michigan State a second time when they

739
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: were trying to get him out of Colorado because they

740
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: gave him almost seven million annually for just his assistant coaches,

741
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: and that was one of the tops in all of

742
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: college football. Well, they gave Jonathan Smith eleven eleven million

743
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: for his assistants. Like he's out here changing other people's

744
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 3: lives and he's getting seven million a year for himself.

745
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 3: So congratulations to Jonathan Smith and his kids and his

746
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: future grandkids.

747
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: And that was the thing that we talked about. Remember

748
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: that on the last part was like, Yo, how would

749
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: you deal with it if we don't even ask if

750
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: you knew and you were one of his longtime assistants

751
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: and you knew that he didn't even entertain it, bro,

752
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: that's hold of sorry.

753
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, especially when you stuck with him like most

754
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: of Jonathan Smith's assistants have, Macharlzick, like his offensive coordinator

755
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: been there a long time.

756
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: Yep. Dante More from UCLA is in the portal. Are

757
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: you surprised by that?

758
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: You told me that was gonna happen like seven weeks

759
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 3: before the season ended, So not at all. You told

760
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: you told me he was gone, Yeah while he was

761
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: still playing. Yeah, And truthfully, his grandma was on Twitter blowing.

762
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: Up yes, yes, and he looked one hundred disengaged m

763
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: especially in that col game. He didn't look like he

764
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: wanted to be there, and that's tough. Where do you

765
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: think he ends up? Uh?

766
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: He said he want I take him at his word,

767
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 3: even though I've been burned by this before, that closer

768
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: to home is his goal, and by his word, the

769
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: rumors that have been out there since the middle of

770
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: the season.

771
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: Like Michigan because he's not going to go to Michigan State.

772
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's not gonna go to Michigan State, but

773
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: you know, Michigan is an option. I do want to

774
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 3: read his grandma's comment word for word because it's very funny. Okay,

775
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: I want to thank all the Dante fans I've met

776
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: on here. To the naysayers, this is in the UCLA

777
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: football chat forum on Facebook. Yes, to the naysayers, it's

778
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: okay because everyone has entitled their opinion. I hold no animosity.

779
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: Chip Kelly was on his way to ruining my grandson.

780
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: I thank god that Dante saw it almost immediately. There

781
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: was no room for a pocket passer at UCLA. The

782
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 3: plays he called for Dante were ridiculous. He honestly didn't

783
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: know how to coach or call plays that Dante could

784
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 3: light up the field. I'm just disappointed that you didn't

785
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: get to see the real Dante. But the end has

786
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: come and for that I'm grateful. It was painful to

787
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: watch UCLA football. I do wish UCLA the best, but

788
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: you'll never succeed until the administration except that Chip Kelly

789
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: is embarrassing the entire program in school.

790
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 4: Happy holidays to all of you. Signed C.

791
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: Jane Johnson Bowland, grandmother of Dante Moore.

792
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: Bro that was. I was like, Oh, okay, that's what's up.

793
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: That's what's up, then, lady ma'am.

794
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: Oh man, Oh, that's a lot that. I don't know

795
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: how necessary all of that was, but you know, I

796
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: wish him the best. It if he you know it,

797
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 3: they could have let him just want to be closer

798
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: to home. But you know, Michigan is a place that

799
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: uses a pocket passer. They're not going to put you

800
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: out on too many runs. McCarthy runs a little bit,

801
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: but it's not everything he does. Yeah, I don't know,

802
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. I I my assumption if they say

803
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: he's been in contact with Michigan, he's from Detroit. My

804
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: assumption is is that's where he's headed. But there's probably

805
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 3: gonna be some offers that turn his head on the

806
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: on the way out the door.

807
00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro. And so right now you have u c.

808
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: L A has Ethan Garber's and you know that's serviceable.

809
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: USC is looking for a quarterback despite having a five

810
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: star on the roster, and there there's some behind the

811
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: scenes stuff that's that that that's going on there where

812
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: the kid is not necessarily helping himself in the situation.

813
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: But Arizona has a quarterback at least for now.

814
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

815
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean, because how many schools do you think are

816
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: calling Arizona Noah Fafeda Arizona's Noah Flafieda, trying to get

817
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: him and TMAC to come as a package.

818
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, if I if if I was in

819
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 3: a position of means, and I would that I would

820
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: definitely be trying to back channel that for sure.

821
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 2: Yes, if if you're USC, aren't you like, hey, yo, brother,

822
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: you can come over here, man.

823
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, come over here, come back home to so Cal. Yeah,

824
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: it wouldn't surprise me at all.

825
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that does not happen. I hope with

826
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: all hope that that does not happen. So Arizona's got

827
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: a quarterback? Does Arizona State have a quarterback?

828
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think Jayden Rashott is gonna stick around. I do.

829
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: I saw him this week. I gave him a shout

830
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: out from you because I know you're a big fan

831
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: of his. Yeah, we talked for about twenty minutes, and

832
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna stick around. I mean, you know,

833
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: the collective is going to have to step up. And

834
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: you know, it's one thing to give him more money

835
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: to be the face of ASU. It's really gonna be

836
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: another thing of whether they get people around him because

837
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: the offensive line was such a big problem this year.

838
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 3: Now a lot of those guys are gonna get healthy

839
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: and they should have a serviceable offensive line going into

840
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: next year. But they need help with the collective. And

841
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: Trenton Borgay is not leaving. And not only is he

842
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 3: not leaving, Trenton Borgay just donated ten thousand dollars to

843
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: the collective.

844
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: So wait, and I'm totally confused.

845
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 4: Wow, I starting the quarterback that started the most games

846
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: for Arizona State this year just donated ten thousand dollars

847
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: to the collective himself.

848
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: Tax right off? Like, are they is he planning on

849
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: getting getting this back, Like, is this a What you have.

850
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: To understand about Trenton Borgay is it's not about next year.

851
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 3: This is Arizona State's future version of Jonathan Smith.

852
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: This is oh oh that yeah, bro, you.

853
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: And this is this is going down as a community legend.

854
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 3: This is building for the future. He's he's he's one

855
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 3: of the smartest people I've ever met. He's got a

856
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: future in coaching. This is this is a step to me,

857
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: It's a step in the right direction.

858
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: Dude, Hey, you have to hire him as a GA now, like,

859
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: there's no like he has to be the GA if

860
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: he wanted or come into an analyst role or something

861
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: like that immediately. Damn smart move, Trenton, love it man.

862
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: You playing chestnut checkers. Washington's looking for a quarterback Oregon

863
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 2: obviously you think that they have Dylan Gabriel.

864
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 4: I think Washington State can't afford to keep their own guy.

865
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: Yep, Oregon State's got to figure out their quarterback situation.

866
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: Cal has a quarterback in Men Mendoza, who, ironically I

867
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: just got off the phone with. Oh, so here's a

868
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: thing that happened that Cal last year. All right, So

869
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: Jakes Spavadol was the offensive coordinator.

870
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

871
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: Spavado all left and went to where where to go?

872
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: Tex Tech?

873
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,479
Speaker 4: I believe he went to was it Tech?

874
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: One of them?

875
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: You went back to the state of Texas where.

876
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it's for sure that in the state of Texas.

877
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see he went to Baylor.

878
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so yes, so job yes, so Spavadol went to Baylor.

879
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: Cow's offense. How would you describe Cow's offense throughout the

880
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 2: season last year?

881
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 4: Uh?

882
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: The only thing keeping them afloat?

883
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? But but but at what point? Because because remember

884
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: we saw their game against Auburn. Yeah, yes, so after

885
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: about the Arizona State game in.

886
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: The chaside running game was working. They were really hard

887
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 3: to put up with. Yes, it wasn't, and it was

888
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: all depending on the quarterback. Before Mendoza got the reins,

889
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: it was putrid.

890
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: Yep, and Spavidol. People didn't know this because will Cox

891
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: was a good guy and didn't make it public. He

892
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: lost play calling duties.

893
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 4: Interesting, Yes, he was.

894
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: No longer the play caller and uh will Cox didn't

895
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: lose any well, I'll let you finish. So then a

896
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: guy named Tim Plow who is now the uh the

897
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: head coach at UC Davis was actually mentoring uh Mendoza

898
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: throughout this whole process, and then him and the offensive

899
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: line coach took over the offense about somewhere around the

900
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: Arizona State game.

901
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 4: Interesting yep.

902
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: So, so it never came out that Spavatol wasn't calling

903
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: plays anymore. So when he leaves for Baylor, it makes

904
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 3: it look like will Cox lost something when he really didn't.

905
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 3: And now people are expecting Jake Spavattall to save Dave

906
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: Randa's job with his play call.

907
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: Interesting.

908
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 4: Interesting yep.

909
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: So so if that does not work, If that does

910
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: not work, how's that gonna work?

911
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 4: Well, if it doesn't, it doesn't, right yep.

912
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 2: And and Plow was actually a quarterback at UC Davis

913
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: as as well from three to seven, and now he's

914
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: the head coach there, but cal had offered him the

915
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: officer coordinator job and he was like, nah, bro, I'm

916
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm uh, I'm happy about that. Oh, UCLA just lost

917
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: another player to the portal as well, Camari Ramsey. They're

918
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: starting they're starting safety number twenty seven from Sierra Camp.

919
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

920
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: And I think probably next week we'll get into more

921
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: of just like transfer destination Yeah, we'll talk about DJU.

922
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: We'll do as much as we can on that. But

923
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: in the meantime PAC twelve awards came out.

924
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thank you for keeping me on track, Ralph.

925
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: I was I was spinning right there, bro.

926
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 3: And I'm just I'm really curious to see to you

927
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 3: if the PAC twelve got a lot of this right

928
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 3: or not.

929
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: Uh, oh my god.

930
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: Brock Heward was mad. Brock Heward's mad, of course, former

931
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: Washington quarterback. Uh, everyone's going to get mad, right, Everyone's

932
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: going to get mad. But uh, this is a tough

933
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 3: year at the quarterback position. This is definitely a tough

934
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: year at the quarterback position.

935
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: Yep.

936
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: Is definitely as tough as it's ever been at the

937
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: At the wide receiver position, yes, I don't think anybody

938
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: was going to necessarily agree with with what they were

939
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: doing at wide receiver. But let's let's get into these awards. Yes, so, okay,

940
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: Pack twelve Offensive Player of the Year went to bow Knicks.

941
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: Would you do you do you agree with that?

942
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, I do? Okay, I mean there were three options,

943
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: really there were. It's hard. It wasn't gonna be Caleb Williams,

944
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: even though he still put up phenomenal. I mean, so

945
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: it really came down to Pinnix and bow Knicks and

946
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 2: the bowl game and the Pac twelve championship didn't factor

947
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: into this.

948
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 4: I believe right it did not.

949
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: So with that, you gotta remember that Michael Pennix put

950
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 2: together a couple of not that good games.

951
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 4: So he did.

952
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 3: He did not produce a touchdown against Arizona State, He

953
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: struggled against Stanford. Yeah, he had another game where he

954
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: had no touchdown passes but went over three hundred yards.

955
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: He did have some struggles, yes.

956
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So with that, I thought it made sense to

957
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: give Bo Nicks the Pac twelve Player of the Year. Yeah,

958
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: I had no problem with that. I actually think that

959
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: that was the right move.

960
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: Pat Tillman Defensive Player of the Year. I hate that

961
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 3: this is going away.

962
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: This was a no brainer. This was a UCLA that

963
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: should have been a unanimous vote. They shouldn't have even

964
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: taken that vote. They should have just mailed. Should have

965
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: said a lot too.

966
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean the fact that like Arizona State

967
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: designed an offense from like the nineteen thirties to like

968
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 3: avoid just him was Yeah, that was everything you needed

969
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 3: to know. Freshman offensive Player of the Year. Easy, Noah

970
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 3: Fafida Easy. You know, technically a freshman, but that's how

971
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 3: things work nowadays.

972
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 4: Not even close.

973
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

974
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe the most runaway even with lat too there,

975
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: maybe the most runaway award correct Freshman Defensive Player of

976
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 3: the year cade uluave at Cal And the Coach of

977
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 3: the Year did not go to your boy, Jedfish. It

978
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: went to the only person to ever go undefeated in

979
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve. Kaylin de Bor, how do you feel

980
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: about that?

981
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: I thought that was fair. I thought that if Washington

982
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: had lost a game that Jedfish would have would have

983
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: won it. But the fact that nobody has made it

984
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: through the PAC twelve unscathed and a coach did it

985
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: that that that's Packed twelve. That's Coach of the Year worthy. Yeah.

986
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 3: So Cayleb Williams, likely number one pick in the NFL draft,

987
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 3: did not make first or second team All Packed twelve. Yeah,

988
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: that went to Bo Nick's first team, Michael Pennock's second team.

989
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: In the argument there, nope, Okay, running backs Jada not

990
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: had to be a first teamer, had to. Yeah, here's

991
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: where we getting a little bit of controversy. Amian Martinez

992
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: first team Bucky Irving and Dylan Johnson second team.

993
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: Hated it, hated it.

994
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 3: That Damien Damien should have been a second teamer. Yes, okay, okay, uh.

995
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 3: Honorable mention at the running back position. I loved watching

996
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 3: all year long. Jonah Coleman at at Arizona, So shout

997
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 3: out to Jonah Coleman.

998
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: And the other one was the other honorable mention was

999
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: from USC. Yes from South Carolina.

1000
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 4: H Yeah, yeah.

1001
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: They the Marshaon Lloyd, whose usage rate was bro just make.

1002
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: Bro He's he's crazy good.

1003
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1004
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably should have beat Outdylan Johnson, even though

1005
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: Dylan Johnson got his award based on his game against

1006
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 3: USC in right opinion.

1007
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: Yes, uh.

1008
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: The wide receivers. I this was gonna be tough. It

1009
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: was gonna be really tough. They have four wide receiver

1010
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: spots when they could have had four on the first

1011
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: team alone. Roma Dunday and Troy Franklin are your first teamers,

1012
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: Ted Roy and McMillan and Brendan Rice were your second teamers.

1013
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: I so I would agree with Rome, Franklin and McMillan right.

1014
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: They probably should have added a third wide receiver spot

1015
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: because McMillan deserved to be on the first team too.

1016
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm kind of iffy on Brendan Rice as the as

1017
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: the second teamer. How about you.

1018
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 4: You'll never hear me say anything bad about Brendan Rice ever.

1019
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, this isn't This isn't like

1020
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 2: that he didn't play well because because we both think

1021
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: the kid is really good.

1022
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: My my thing was Washington's other receivers didn't even get

1023
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: honorable mention.

1024
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: Well, one of them missed seven games? Was that McMillan

1025
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: He missed seven games or something of the.

1026
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 4: Pulk no honorable mention.

1027
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 3: It's crazy because people know exactly how good, how good

1028
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: they were, right, Uh, Lincoln Victor at Washington State honorable mention,

1029
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: he deserved that. I just I don't know. Jacob Cowing

1030
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 3: probably make an argument for him, yep, elk Iman or

1031
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: you know, maybe a little early for him to get

1032
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: that second team, but he was He was really good, dude,

1033
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 3: He was really good.

1034
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

1035
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: They probably honestly, they probably nailed it. It was a

1036
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: tough year receiver and they probably got it right.

1037
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: Could you have put could you have put Xavier Weaver

1038
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: from Colorado in that conversation too?

1039
00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he wasn't. Yeah, there was the consistence. See

1040
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: right then Tess Johnson, Tess Johnson, if they had three

1041
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: spots each might have been a second teamer for me. Actually,

1042
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: but you also you got to take care of Jacob Cowing,

1043
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 3: So finding Cowing and Tess Johnson in there probably would

1044
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: have been would have been good for.

1045
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: Me or Jalen. Jalen Polk hasn't has an argument even

1046
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: though you know is yeah.

1047
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 3: If Elijah Badger had had consistent quarterback play, he'd have

1048
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 3: been in here. But yeah, tight end. Terrence Ferguson, I

1049
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: like it. Jack Felling, I like that as well.

1050
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: Yep.

1051
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: Jalen Conyers Uh didn't get honorable mention, which bothers me

1052
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: because he was having to play running back.

1053
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't like that. I thought he

1054
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: definitely should have been honorable mention.

1055
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

1056
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 3: And then the old line. I mean, you have on here,

1057
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: uh two Oregon State players in the last year of

1058
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve. That just goes to show you that

1059
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: Mitchell is it because he's the most important assistant coach

1060
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: in the entire conference.

1061
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: Well the way, uh, ful Wanka is probably gonna be

1062
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: a first round pick, a second round pick at the latest.

1063
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jordan Morgan is cool because he missed time

1064
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: for Arizona, but he's probably a Day two NFL pick.

1065
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't see my guy on here though.

1066
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: From Washington.

1067
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: I don't see my guy. Is it Stephen Johnson at Oregon?

1068
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 3: I don't see my guy on here.

1069
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: Steven Jones? Yeah, Jones, he got honorable.

1070
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 4: Mention, Come on now.

1071
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 3: But shout out to Parker Brailsford. I covered him in

1072
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: high school. He's a red shirt freshman at Washington that

1073
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 3: had to play because Matteo Melee went out for the

1074
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: year and they went thirteen to oh So. I mean

1075
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: he I don't know if he was expecting to even

1076
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: have to be out there for him to get second

1077
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 3: team honors. It's pretty cool. First team defense. I was

1078
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 3: I thought that Braylen Trice was undervalued last year. This

1079
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 3: year maybe overvalued question Mark as a first teamer. Brandon

1080
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 3: Dorley a great. Jonah Ellis was awesome, awesome for Utah.

1081
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: Uh Tafuna didn't he he He missed a couple of

1082
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 3: games for for Utah. This is kind of the hit

1083
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 3: or miss one. I think there's some guessing here on

1084
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 3: on the defensive line. You know, I just I'm glad

1085
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 3: to see that bj Green with the amount of quarterback

1086
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: pressures that he levied that he got recognized and at

1087
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 3: the time, at the same time, Deshaun Mallory, the team

1088
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 3: voted him as you know, as the like defensive m

1089
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,479
Speaker 3: v P or whatever. But yeah, yeah, I defensive line

1090
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: is fine to me.

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Speaker 4: Uh. The uh the linebackers. Uh.

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01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: Jacob Manu, he was part of that group that all

1093
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 3: committed to Arizona out of Servite. How insane is it

1094
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 3: that they got four players out of Servite? Two of

1095
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 3: them are sophomores.

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01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: That team beat My Day that year and they either

1097
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: be Modern Day or Bosco that year, so instead of

1098
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: Modern Day and Bosco being in the championship, it was oh,

1099
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: they'd beat Bosco, I believe. And then they played in

1100
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: the championship versus Modern Day, which is not a typical

1101
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: thing that happened. That team was good because we played

1102
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: against them when my son was in high school. But

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01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: that was t MAC was a one man wrecking crew.

1104
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 3: And then they did a couple of things with this

1105
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: first team defense that I think will make you laugh.

1106
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: How back twelve first team d back over Jabbar Mohammad

1107
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 3: at Washington.

1108
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I do not think that Jabbar

1109
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: Mohammad is as good as a lot of people as

1110
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: the in terms of pro potential. That a lot of

1111
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: people act like like he's cool, but he turns down

1112
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: a lot of tackles and he's okay in coverage, like

1113
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: he's good, but not as as good as you would

1114
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: He's not as good as he as as his antics.

1115
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 2: If that makes sense.

1116
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: I okay, I'll give you that. But he did lead

1117
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: the team and for you know, and Washington didn't have

1118
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: the greatest defense in the world, they still got to.

1119
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Price is special.

1120
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: He could be. He really could be. I talked to

1121
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 3: a high school coach of the of a school that

1122
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 3: was in the middle of winning five straight championships at

1123
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: the time, who said that Braylen Trice is the best

1124
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 3: defender they've ever faced at the high school level. So

1125
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 3: it's cool to see him like at times reaching his

1126
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 3: potential out at Washington. But Sioni Vaki is funny to

1127
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 3: me because they have Travis Hunter as a first teamer

1128
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 3: as well. Both of these guys did more than one thing.

1129
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: They're both incredibly talented. But Vaki obviously made his impact

1130
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: on the audio.

1131
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: End up on first team instead of Cold Bishop.

1132
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true, that's true, but I think it's because

1133
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 3: he did more than one thing. And Sioni Vaki was

1134
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: also given first team specialist. Yes, so I don't know.

1135
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 3: I don't know how they figured all that out. Yeah,

1136
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: all purpose specialists. That the Vaki thing is funny to me.

1137
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter probably could have been a second team receiver

1138
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 3: along with being a first team defensive back. You know what,

1139
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,959
Speaker 3: the awards were fine, They were fine to me this year.

1140
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: They actually did a good job this year and it

1141
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: didn't feel like they were trying to punish people, which.

1142
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 4: They have done in the past.

1143
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 3: Yes, they they did that to Arizona State really heavy

1144
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 3: in the Herm years. But yeah, no, it just a

1145
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: cool year. Shout out to UH to a couple of

1146
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: guys that I really enjoyed covering at the high school level.

1147
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 3: I know I say this all the time, but Akille Arnold,

1148
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 3: he was at Mission v AH, one of my favorite players.

1149
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: He's at Oregon State. He got honorable mention for defensive

1150
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: back here. I think he missed the last few games

1151
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: of the season for Oregon State, which kind of hurt them,

1152
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 3: But Kenny Church, Well, I thought he to not see

1153
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 3: more or UCLA players on the first team defense. Yeah,

1154
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: only there because they really did have the best year.

1155
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 3: They only had two players total on first and second team,

1156
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 3: and I mean that just goes to maybe credit deont

1157
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 3: de Anton Lynn. But when you when you look at

1158
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 3: the honorable mentions, five of the six are on the

1159
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. So at least UCLA is

1160
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 3: getting some recognition there.

1161
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

1162
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Speaker 3: It is crazy to me that USC had as many

1163
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 3: honorable mentions as they did in a seven win season.

1164
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 3: They led the PAC twelve in honorable mentions and many

1165
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 3: of them were on the defensive side of the ball,

1166
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 3: including bar Alexander Solomon Bird Like, come on, come on,

1167
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 3: nothing against those players, but for for you USC to

1168
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 3: lead the PAC twelve and honorable mentions, No.

1169
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 2: Yes, so yeah. So any other news that you want

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01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: to get to on this show.

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01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 3: No, No, I think next week we're gonna do a

1172
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 3: deep dive on all these teams talk Bowl games. I'm

1173
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: really excited to get to that. But just wanted to

1174
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 3: check in and let the people know that George Reister

1175
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 3: was not hiding after the result of the Pactwal Championship.

1176
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: Not even a little bit. Bro. We've been. We've been

1177
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: out here in these streets, man, out here in these streets,

1178
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: making content and everything else. Man, love it, love it,

1179
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: love it. But you guys, I'm George Reiser, He's Ralph Ampston.

1180
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Speaker 2: This is the PAC Twelve Apostles,