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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? I'm Rich Demiro and this is Rich

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<v Speaker 1>guests this week. C Nets Scott Stein will compare Meta's

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<v Speaker 1>Quest three, their new ray band, smart glasses upgrades, and

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<v Speaker 1>their new AR prototype glasses. They call them O'Ryan. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>last week I told you about Snap Spectacles. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember if I actually told you about him or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know I saw him and he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>compare in contrast because he's actually warned both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And how does this.

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk to Jobe Aviation's Eric Allison about their

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<v Speaker 1>new all electric air taxi. I saw this this week

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<v Speaker 1>and I have high hopes no pun intended. And later

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk to Parent Collective founder Samuel Chapman.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to talk about social media safety and the

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<v Speaker 1>recent impact of all the those school phone bands on

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<v Speaker 1>student well being. Well, before we start, I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to say a warm happy birthday to my mom. Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy birthday. It is her birthday today. I did call

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<v Speaker 1>her and she had a great night last night with

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<v Speaker 1>the family. I am not there in New Jersey to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate with you this year, but I will be out

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<v Speaker 1>there soon. So thanks as always for listening to this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and have a great birthday today.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom has taught me so much.

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<v Speaker 1>She had five kids, by the way, that is that

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<v Speaker 1>is no easy feat and she's still smiling, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Happy birthday, Mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you about how I got in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>for trying to help you out.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just wild and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Really just goes to show why I started a newsletter,

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<v Speaker 1>why that I am on this show and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do things to you know. Like I say in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about the tech stuff I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>know about. So let me tell you about my recent

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<v Speaker 1>experience on Instagram. My Instagram is ruined at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you saw this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you did for a while, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>this thing going around on Instagram that said goodbye Meta

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<v Speaker 1>AI and attorney has advised us to put this on.

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<v Speaker 1>Failure to do so may result in legal consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to post this statement.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't post, you're okay with them using your

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<v Speaker 1>information and photos. I don't give Meta or anyone else's

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<v Speaker 1>permission to use any of my personal data, profile information,

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<v Speaker 1>or photos. This went around for a couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>and it spread like wildfire. Now give me a break.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not real. It's a fake legal warning, like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just post something on your Instagram stories or

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<v Speaker 1>your Facebook and expect to change the relationship the legal

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<v Speaker 1>terms and conditions between you and Facebook. It doesn't work

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<v Speaker 1>that way. No attorney told people to do this. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why people do this. They like to

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<v Speaker 1>spread this stuff and it's just funny. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>chain letter back in the day. This has been going

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<v Speaker 1>on since the beginning of the internet, right, these fake

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<v Speaker 1>warnings and things that people say.

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<v Speaker 2>Copy and paste, post and tell your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw this, and I saw a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people emailing me about it, asking me if it was real.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, all right, I got a post about this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I take the post, I screenshot it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>put like a big bogus over it, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>posted it with an explanation of why it's not real

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff. Well, I could tell that Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>was not showing it to a lot of people because

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<v Speaker 1>you can see kind of like the likes and the comments,

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<v Speaker 1>and they really weren't coming in. I was like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. They probably think I'm spreading this, as you know, misinformation. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough, I wake up the next morning and I

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<v Speaker 1>get a couple stern warnings from Instagram saying we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have marked your post as false.

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<v Speaker 1>You should not be spreading false information and misinformation, and

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<v Speaker 1>we had to take your post down. And they showed

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<v Speaker 1>me like a picture of the post where it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is false, it's been debunked, it's fake.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, you've got to be kidding me,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is it's scanned.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, AI is always scanning the stuff that you

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<v Speaker 1>upload to these social media networks and trying to figure.

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<v Speaker 2>Out what you're uploading, if it's real or if it's fake.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course they've heightened all of this stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>recent years with the advent of all this fake news

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. And so my post that clearly

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<v Speaker 1>any human being in the world could understand was factual

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<v Speaker 1>and helpful and true, but their AI didn't. And so

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<v Speaker 1>then not only that, not only did they take my

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<v Speaker 1>post down and send me all these warnings, they said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, we've we've flagged your account now because

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<v Speaker 1>you're spreading misinformation. So now your account quality has been lowered,

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<v Speaker 1>So your stuff that you post will now be shown lower.

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<v Speaker 2>In people's feeds.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I post something important in the future, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't see it because face face, Instagram says, now

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's spreading false information. Also, you know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>monetized my account in a big way, you no longer

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<v Speaker 1>eligible for monetization. Instagram used to these things where like

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<v Speaker 1>they get influencers to post and they give them like bonuses.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't really.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's funny because when reels first started, Instagram was

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<v Speaker 1>paying people to post reels because they wanted to take

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<v Speaker 1>over TikTok, and so they give you like a bonus

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<v Speaker 1>if you reached like twenty thousand views on reels.

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<v Speaker 2>And what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>All the influencers went to post those things, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a little money myself, and I tried it

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<v Speaker 1>out and okay, sure, But then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as reel's got popular, I guess what they did. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they pulled back the reins on that, and nobody gets

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<v Speaker 1>it now. Now they're doing the same thing with threads.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not eligible for that. But yes, if you're noticing

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<v Speaker 1>people posting on threads, that's why, because they're getting a kickback. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you all that because my Instagram is ruined

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<v Speaker 1>now because not only is my stuff not being shown

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<v Speaker 1>to people as much, but also when I go on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how this happened, but now it's not

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<v Speaker 1>showing me posts from people. So when I go on

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<v Speaker 1>to Instagram, now it shows me one post from someone

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<v Speaker 1>I follow and it says you've seen all of your

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<v Speaker 1>new posts from the past three days, move on, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it goes into like suggestions. My point is, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you got I was trying to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not work, and I think that anyone Now

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a huge following on these platforms. So

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<v Speaker 1>some people make like an actual living on Instagram, on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, on YouTube, and can you imagine losing that

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<v Speaker 1>overnight your entire platform? And so you got to be

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<v Speaker 1>careful with this stuff and think about it. Facebook is

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<v Speaker 1>really controlling a lot of things out there. Instagram, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>and now threads. And people are all about threads because

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<v Speaker 1>we know what happened with Twitter, and people are kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, moving away from that in certain circles, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they're moving to threads because it's seen as a

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<v Speaker 1>better alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>But guess what, Now you've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got three major information platforms all controlled by one company.

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<v Speaker 1>You do something wrong, your loggin gets hacked and boom.

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<v Speaker 1>It affects all three of these things. So that brings

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<v Speaker 1>me my second part of this, which is the most

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<v Speaker 1>common thing that people email me. They say, hey, my

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<v Speaker 1>social media account was hacked, whether it's Facebook or Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>and they say, rich, can you help me get it back?

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<v Speaker 1>And I really can There's not much I can do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, I did a story once where we

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to Facebook and they did help a woman

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<v Speaker 1>get her account back, but they don't do that on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis for me, especially not with the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of emails I'm getting. So let me just explain really

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<v Speaker 1>quickly how this happens, okay, and what you can do

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Number one, What typically happens is you get

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<v Speaker 1>an email or a notification that says there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with your account and you need to log in

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<v Speaker 1>here and fix it. And you go, oh, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to lose all my pictures from that I

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<v Speaker 1>posted over the past ten years. You log in and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you realize that was totally bogus.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what you just.

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<v Speaker 1>Did was hand over your username and your password to hackers.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do they do. They immediately go and take

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<v Speaker 1>over your account. They change your email address, they change

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<v Speaker 1>your password, they might even change other information on your account.

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<v Speaker 1>They start sending out scams messages to all of your

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<v Speaker 1>followers trying to get them into crypto scams, whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get back in. So the official way to

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<v Speaker 1>get back in if this ever happens to you is

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram slash hacked and Facebook dot com slash hacked. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna work. It's a frustrating process.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to many people who go through it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding. It's almost like you are.

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<v Speaker 1>A one of those you know, if you're hijacked or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you're yes, like you're a hostage. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to literally hold up like a newspaper with like your

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<v Speaker 1>ID and the date today's date, to like have them

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<v Speaker 1>prove that it's you to get your account back. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty wild. So I'm telling you all of this because

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to set up two factor authentication two

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<v Speaker 1>day for both your Instagram and your Facebook accounts that

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<v Speaker 1>will protect you because let's say you mistakenly clicked one

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<v Speaker 1>of these links and you hand over your username and password,

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<v Speaker 1>they will get this thing that says, oh, now give

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<v Speaker 1>us that two factor code, and you're gonna get a

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<v Speaker 1>message that says, hey, did you just log in from Russia?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're gonna go no, and then you'll be like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just totally got taken. And the thing is it

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<v Speaker 1>will save you in that moment. Now you need to

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<v Speaker 1>go and change your password and all that stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least you'll be saved from your account getting hacked.

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<v Speaker 1>So do that today. And do not use the same

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<v Speaker 1>password on different accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>Please.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this over and over, and the reason I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you this is because what they're gonna do is

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to take that password and use their name.

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<v Speaker 1>You just hand it over, and they're going to try

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<v Speaker 1>on all the other popular accounts out there. So now

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get hacked across other accounts because you reuse

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<v Speaker 1>that password. Please use a password manager, set up two

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<v Speaker 1>factor authentication. If you take nothing else away from me today.

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<v Speaker 2>On this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the two most important things, because all of

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<v Speaker 1>this frustration can be solved so easily. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying these situations are perfect. These protections, but in ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent of the circumstances. They will protect you. So

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<v Speaker 1>try it out. Please set it up, and please do

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<v Speaker 1>not reuse the same passwords. Apple has a new passwords

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<v Speaker 1>app and iosaighteen Bitwarden is free, and I also like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. For me, I don't know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully one day my account will come back to one

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 2>Won't show you. Let's go to Arnold in Rancho Kukumonga

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<v Speaker 2>Arnold drawn.

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<v Speaker 5>With Rich good One. Hey, I recently added about six

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<v Speaker 5>or seven apps to my phone, and all of a

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<v Speaker 5>suddenly I'm getting this. When I try to take a

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<v Speaker 5>picture or do I just log in, I get this,

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<v Speaker 5>A game pops up or an AD pops up, and

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<v Speaker 5>I can't stop it, killing me, driving me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That is that is really annoying. Okay, so a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things. What did you want to install the apps?

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<v Speaker 5>I've tried to uninstall a few of them, but I

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<v Speaker 5>haven't done them all yet. And I saw some instruction

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<v Speaker 5>on the internet about going into safe mode and uninstalling

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<v Speaker 5>them first or something. But you know what, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you know, you know, I tried Google setting settings.

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<v Speaker 5>I just have had no success.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the other thing is are these coming up from

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<v Speaker 1>apps or are they coming up as Chrome notifications, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's that could be a difference. Like if they're popping

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<v Speaker 1>up if it's a Chrome kind of browser, that could

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<v Speaker 1>be a an app that you said, yes, i'll take

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<v Speaker 1>notifications when you're browsing the web, and next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sending you all these notifications that look like, so

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<v Speaker 1>what does the screen look like?

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's popping up.

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<v Speaker 5>The game will come up like you know, the last

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<v Speaker 5>you want to install it, or just will be an

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<v Speaker 5>advertisement for what you know, just just advertising whatever, financial hotels, travel, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So frustrating when I.

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<v Speaker 5>First check in, you know that I'm trying to take

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<v Speaker 5>a quick quota.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, yeah, okay, well, first thing you do, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. I'll tell you all the steps that I

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<v Speaker 1>would do. Okay, So first things first, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>go through and uninstall all these apps that you install

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of them. And you don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>do it in safe mode. You should be fine with

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<v Speaker 1>just uninstalling them. So go into Google Play or just

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<v Speaker 1>find the apps in your in your drawer and just uninstalled.

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<v Speaker 1>Or actually I would just you know, just go into

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<v Speaker 1>Google Play and look at a list of all of

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<v Speaker 1>your apps and then uninstall them from there, or or

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<v Speaker 1>go into your app drawer, whatever you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you do that, restart your phone see if it

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<v Speaker 1>happens again. If it's still happening, then something else got installed.

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<v Speaker 1>So make sure you're looking for all the apps on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone that maybe it's side installed another app. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you probably want to go into Chrome and if

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<v Speaker 1>it's served up from Chrome, I would clear all of

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<v Speaker 1>your browsing data. So go into Chrome, go into your settings.

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<v Speaker 1>It says delete browsing data, and I would do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all time, and I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get rid of all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that will get rid of it'll reset all the cookies,

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<v Speaker 1>the cash, everything, the history, any of those pop ups

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<v Speaker 1>that are happening, and that should that should fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it doesn't again. Once you're done with all

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<v Speaker 1>these steps, restart your phone after each step. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>next thing I would do is go into your settings.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Samsung, they've actually have a malware scanner built in,

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<v Speaker 1>so go into the settings and then under Device care,

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<v Speaker 1>scroll all the way down. It says, let's see whereas

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<v Speaker 1>I say app protection and then it says turn on

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<v Speaker 1>app protection to stay safe from malware and other suspicious activity.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn that you can turn that on and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to scan for any issues, and if it doesn't find anything,

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing I would like you to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to download an app called malware Bytes. Malware Bytes does

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<v Speaker 1>have a malware scanner in it as well, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that. But I think between those steps you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to do all of those steps. I would

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<v Speaker 1>just do them in the order I mentioned them, and

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<v Speaker 1>once you do them in that order, one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things should take care of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Being served up by a rogue website that you visited

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<v Speaker 1>on Chrome and it is now delivering Chrome notification pop

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<v Speaker 1>ups at that look like ads, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening. So thanks for the call today, Arnold. Very

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<v Speaker 1>very frustrating trying to take a picture and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not really cooperating. Speaking of Samsung, they've got a new phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the S twenty four FE. This used to

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<v Speaker 1>be short for Fan Edition, so basically this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a full featured Samsung Galaxy, but at a cheaper price,

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<v Speaker 1>so more expensive this year it's six hundred and fifty dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't buy it at that price.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not buy it at that price.

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<v Speaker 1>It will go on sale, So do not pay six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty dollars to this phone. But it's got

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<v Speaker 1>great feature It's got a six point seven inch screen,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got a bigger battery than last year. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty megapixel wide angle lens, got an eight megapixel

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<v Speaker 1>telephoto with three times optical. It's got an ultra wide

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<v Speaker 1>and a ten megapixel selfie. The big thing that Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>is promoting on this phone is that it's got AI

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<v Speaker 1>built in from day one. We all know that the

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<v Speaker 1>AI features on the newest iPhones are delayed, so Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>is using that to their advantage, saying, hey, we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Got AI right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did take this phone out last night take

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<v Speaker 1>some pictures at the pumpkin patch, and I am impressed

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<v Speaker 1>with the pictures. I thought the pictures were actually pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're looking for a relatively inexpensive phone compared

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the ultras out there, the Samsung Galaxy

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<v Speaker 1>fe not a bad deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Check it out brand new. I'm not even sure what

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<v Speaker 2>day it's shipping.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see beginning of over third eighty eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>on one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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<v Speaker 1>one zero one. Coming up, we're gonna talk to Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Stein of c neet about augmented reality glasses.

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<v Speaker 2>This is rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology. So this week, U meta man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking a lot about Facebook. This week they had

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<v Speaker 1>their event called Meta Connect. This is when they show

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<v Speaker 1>off all of their new products and features and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And uh, the big headline was that they

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<v Speaker 1>came out with these augmented reality glasses they call Oriyan.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't buy them.

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<v Speaker 1>They cost anywhere from like a thousand to ten thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>They are prototype, but they showed a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people put them on and it's almost like a holographic

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<v Speaker 1>display when you look through them. So I think what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting here is that Snapchat came out with augmented reality

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<v Speaker 1>glasses last week and now Meta this week. And when

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<v Speaker 1>we see two major companies doing stuff like this, we

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<v Speaker 1>realize that this is happening. Here to talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>is Scott Stein from CNET. He covers this stuff for

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<v Speaker 1>a living there. So tell me first about these Orion glasses, like,

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<v Speaker 1>was it the future or what?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's the future where.

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<v Speaker 6>I think things need to go. You know, it's basically

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<v Speaker 6>like the convergence point. So yes, but it reminded me

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<v Speaker 6>a bit of vision pro in the sense that you

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<v Speaker 6>see a lot of pieces coming together from the landscape,

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<v Speaker 6>but not necessarily in the form that it needs to be.

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<v Speaker 6>Vision Pro, I think is in terms of size and

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<v Speaker 6>the bulkiness, but Orion is in terms of just even

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<v Speaker 6>producing it. You know, that's the right size, but the

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<v Speaker 6>cost and the software and even the resolution aren't there yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And what were you able to do? Like what was

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<v Speaker 2>the demo that you saw?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so I got through about forty five minutes of stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>and a lot of it kind of felt some of

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<v Speaker 6>us felt like vision pro in the sense that you've

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<v Speaker 6>never used that before, where there's a grid of apps

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<v Speaker 6>and I used eye tracking to locate the app. But

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<v Speaker 6>what was interesting is to do pinch gestures to open

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<v Speaker 6>the apps. I didn't use any cameras in front of me.

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<v Speaker 6>I used a wristband that I wore that used EMG,

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<v Speaker 6>which is a type of neural input sensor that can

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<v Speaker 6>check electrical impulses and turn them into gesture awareness. So

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<v Speaker 6>I would tap it to open the app. Then I

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<v Speaker 6>would look, you know, look at a simulated incoming call

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<v Speaker 6>that I would answer that they set up in the

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<v Speaker 6>room where somebody was actually talking to me, but it

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't you know, like live and out there in the world.

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<v Speaker 6>And watch some videos. I got to play some games

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<v Speaker 6>that were kind of like VR games where I tilted

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<v Speaker 6>my head and use my eyes to control where the

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<v Speaker 6>ship was shooting and use my fingers to shoot. And

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<v Speaker 6>played the three D ping pong where we were standing

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<v Speaker 6>across the table and I was, you know, playing with

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<v Speaker 6>someone else, one of the other team members, using my

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<v Speaker 6>hand to hit the paddle. And you know, those are

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like VR, kind of like AR mixed reality

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<v Speaker 6>things that have been out there, but the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>they're happening on wireless glasses that are that small, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>with a with a really good viewing area and that

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<v Speaker 6>type of wristband that's really new.

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<v Speaker 1>So and just a quick refresher explain what augmented reality

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<v Speaker 1>is versus virtual reality.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so virtual reality is something where the whole world

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<v Speaker 6>is blocked off and you're inside a three D you

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<v Speaker 6>know landscape like a like an Oculus quest Meta quest

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<v Speaker 6>that's out there, and augmented reality is the idea of

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<v Speaker 6>putting that into the real world and seeing things that

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<v Speaker 6>exist in overlaid or you know, three D or hovering

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<v Speaker 6>into the real world. And some of that's already available now.

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<v Speaker 6>When you see mixed reality headsets like the vision pro

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<v Speaker 6>requests three, they use cameras that show you the real

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<v Speaker 6>world and then layer it. What these glasses do and

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<v Speaker 6>AR headsets do is they actually have transparent lenses, so

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<v Speaker 6>you are seeing the real world, but it's giving this

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<v Speaker 6>ghostly layer of what you know when Bark Zuckerberg called holograms,

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<v Speaker 6>but they're basically that you know, three D display tech,

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<v Speaker 6>but without blocking out the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's interesting because you know Zuckerberg used this

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<v Speaker 1>holographic description Snapchat. I don't believe said the word holographic.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at that event and I tried those on

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<v Speaker 1>and you did as well. What did you think the

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<v Speaker 1>difference was?

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<v Speaker 7>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Was the you know who did this better?

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<v Speaker 6>Totally similar concept. The difference is in a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>the nuances, you know, Snapchat viewing area is much narrower.

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<v Speaker 6>You probably know it is like you can see areas

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<v Speaker 6>of your viewing area where the three D effects you know,

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<v Speaker 6>kind of cut off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like a postage stamp in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the screen. Like it's like postage stamp in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the screen. Imagine that's where the overlay area is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like tall but very narrow. Med is is much better.

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<v Speaker 6>You did not see those edges, although also Metta had

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<v Speaker 6>demos that you know, cleverly show things that are you know,

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<v Speaker 6>in your area and not trying to overlap, almost like

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<v Speaker 6>the original Apple watchspases. You know that we're designed well,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't see the border as much, but you know

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<v Speaker 6>still it's wide seventy degrees, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Is what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>Is actually less wide than what you have on a

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<v Speaker 6>VR headset, which already feels a bit like a scuba mask.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's not that it's your entire area, but it's

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<v Speaker 6>close enough that you don't see that cutoff point. And

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<v Speaker 6>the resolution was actually a little bit lower than stuff

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<v Speaker 6>I've been used to, and Meta admitted that, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it was totally fine for icons and videos and stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>but nowhere near where you'd want to watch a movie

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<v Speaker 6>in it, you know, like something like Apple Vision pro

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<v Speaker 6>is like a cinema quality experience. This is not that

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<v Speaker 6>it's not even aiming to be. Well, it is aiming

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<v Speaker 6>to be, but it's not there yet. They're talking about

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<v Speaker 6>having to improve the resolution, but it.

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<v Speaker 2>Will get there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think at this point, and you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell me what you think, but I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>reached the tipping point now where, like I said, we

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<v Speaker 1>have two major companies working on this and getting it

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<v Speaker 1>to a really great demo in a small kind of

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<v Speaker 1>form factor. The technology is just going to continue to evolve.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do believe that we will be walking down

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<v Speaker 1>the street with sunglasses or glasses that do have the

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<v Speaker 1>heads up display that tell us you know, who's calling

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner, the music that you're playing, what you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to, identify that plant that you're looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's going to be a reality.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think so. I think it's only a matter

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<v Speaker 6>of whether you choose to have it personally, kind of

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<v Speaker 6>like when smart watches came out, some people wanted them,

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<v Speaker 6>some people didn't. Or the battery life, you know, the

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<v Speaker 6>battery life and the power and how you connect to

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:34.399
<v Speaker 6>it met is using this processor puck kind of like

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<v Speaker 6>a little computer. It's kind of like a stand in

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<v Speaker 6>for a phone, you know, but phones, to me, that's

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<v Speaker 6>what it is. Phones right now, you know, already have

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<v Speaker 6>lower battery life than many would like. And you want

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<v Speaker 6>to think about connecting something like glasses, but there's no protocol,

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.919
<v Speaker 6>there's no system for that yet from either Google or Apple.

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<v Speaker 6>And I feel like we're seeing these glasses trying to

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<v Speaker 6>figure it out before maybe in the future we have

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<v Speaker 6>phones that are more powerful that are able to handle that.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, but I think it's I've seen it for years,

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<v Speaker 6>so I kind of I've always believed that it's possible.

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<v Speaker 6>But you're right, we're seeing now that it is happening,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think that's that's a real turning point where

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<v Speaker 6>they're putting it together. They're showing all the pieces and yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>we didn't think we'd wear wireless eyebuds, all of us,

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<v Speaker 6>and we didn't think we'd wear smart watches and that

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<v Speaker 6>happened too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it is interesting because you mentioned the protocol, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Google, Android, Apple, they would love to have

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<v Speaker 1>a way for these glasses to interact so they can

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<v Speaker 1>run all the processing on the phone and the glasses

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<v Speaker 1>are just sort of a display. But of course these

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<v Speaker 1>tech companies like Meta especially would love to have this takeover,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, independent of something like iOS or Android, because

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a win for them.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I see a similarity there between Snap Spectacles

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<v Speaker 6>and Meta Orion and that they're both companies will you

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<v Speaker 6>know that have phone apps that have that don't have

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<v Speaker 6>their own over the OS ecosystem, but are trying to

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<v Speaker 6>find ways to drive stuff. Met is a lot bigger

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<v Speaker 6>and has a lot more pieces to that puzzle. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's exactly it. And I feel like that still needs

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<v Speaker 6>to be solved, like you know, use vision pro or

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 6>questadsets and things at home because they can't be phones.

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 6>They can't go around outside for a variety of reasons.

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 6>And Orian the demo was indoors. It was all on

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<v Speaker 6>a self contained network. But in the future, when you

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<v Speaker 6>wear it around, it will have to be like a phone,

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<v Speaker 6>or it'll have to learn how to navigate that same

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<v Speaker 6>you know landscape. Qualcomm's been trying to solve those things too,

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 6>you know, in the weeds lurking around through all of

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.159
<v Speaker 6>these products, and that's been a sign of you know

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<v Speaker 6>those aspirations.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Scott, we're gonna leave it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining me today, Scott Stein at cnet.

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>He's been covering VR and AR for a while now,

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>so if you want to read up on all that stuff,

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.159
<v Speaker 1>jets Scott on social media. Scott, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me today. Hey, thank you, rich all right, great day.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, little little trivia, me and Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we went to the same magic store growing up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the mecha magic?

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<v Speaker 6>Did you I know about the one I did go?

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<v Speaker 6>Where was mecha magic?

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<v Speaker 1>Mecha Magic? I think it was like in like somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey. I feel like that's for anyway it was.

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>It was a while ago, amazing. I went to Ron

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's and I went to Tannin's. But now I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to look out for look up, to look up

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<v Speaker 1>for yours, look up Mecha Magic. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>in Bloomfield, New Jersey. I think anyway here and oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god.

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<v Speaker 6>Wish it was still open. Oh no, I never went there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a shame.

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<v Speaker 6>I wish I had.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Scott, appreciate it all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. I knew Scott

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<v Speaker 1>was into magic. I had a feeling because he's in

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey that we went to the same but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess not eighty eight rich one on one eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 2>More of your calls right up next, Let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>Diana in Torrance. What can I help you with?

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you so much for taking my call. And I

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 8>had called in a while back to your show with

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 8>a question about how to log in remotely and screenshare

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<v Speaker 8>from my Max to other computers, and you helped me

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<v Speaker 8>with a great suggestion, which was team viewer.

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<v Speaker 2>Great.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll leave the call right there. Thank you, No says kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're having a problem with it.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it worked, you know. I figured it out without

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<v Speaker 8>too much trouble, and I got it working, and it

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<v Speaker 8>was working great for a while, like maybe a month

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<v Speaker 8>or two, and then all of a sudden, one day

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<v Speaker 8>it started just logging me out after five minutes with

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<v Speaker 8>seemingly no explanation, and so I couldn't see I thought

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 8>it just became like glitchy or flaky. And then I

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<v Speaker 8>have different devices, different computers and iPhones, and iPads that

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 8>I used to do this, and then I caught, like

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:54.120
<v Speaker 8>on one of the devices a message that said something like, oh,

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 8>you're using too much, which I'm not. I'm just using

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 8>it either sometimes they do some streaming or else I'm

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 8>helping my parents troubleshoot their computers. And so since I'm

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<v Speaker 8>trying to use the free license, I don't even begin

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<v Speaker 8>to know how to get help for this, or how

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<v Speaker 8>to how or why my account got flagged like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so the way that Team Viewer works is it is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of a freemium thing, so they

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<v Speaker 1>do have you know, their main business is obviously selling

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>this to people who pay them, right, and that's how

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.479
<v Speaker 1>they make it and survive and all that good stuff.

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>But then they give away a free version for personal use.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I think, you know what happens is there must

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<v Speaker 1>be a limit on the free use because they don't

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>want people that run companies using this for their company,

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>because then why pay for it. Ever, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that they must have some sort of algorithm in place

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<v Speaker 1>that tells them, Okay, we see this person logged in

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>every day or every you know whatever, and we're using

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it this much and so we will flag those accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably an automatic thing that happens just to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of protect the business model. So you could try to

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the service is like through them,

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to get in touch with them and say, hey, you know,

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm using this personally.

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<v Speaker 2>How many hours a day are you using this? You think.

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<v Speaker 8>It was well, not not a regular not consistently in

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<v Speaker 8>a long period of time every day, but some on

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 8>some days I might use it for quite a while,

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<v Speaker 8>and then it might be you know, days in between

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 8>when I use it, So it's not it was not

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<v Speaker 8>on a consistent basis or anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, but I but I did have.

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<v Speaker 8>Like various different devices I would try to connect to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, so I think I think what's

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>happening is you're just flagging their systems. So you can

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<v Speaker 1>try to get in touch with them and appeal and say, hey, look,

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, i'm personal I'm just using this to do

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>this and whatever. The other thing you can do is

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<v Speaker 1>try a different program, which is uh, it's see. The

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>problem is, I think it's a little bit more complicated

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<v Speaker 1>to set this up. There's one called rust Desk, and

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.959
<v Speaker 1>it is completely free, but I think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more complicated because it looks like you

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<v Speaker 1>have to self host with like your own server, which

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I think is is way too complicated for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the average person set up. I think that's what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the problem with all of these systems is

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<v Speaker 1>that there needs to be like a conduit for it

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<v Speaker 1>to go through. And I think that that, you know,

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>there is a cost involved for this company anytime you're

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<v Speaker 1>on it. So the other thing you can do is,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what you're trying to do, there is Chrome

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Remote Desktop, and so that one is a lot easier.

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>It's basically a very quick, easy installation, So I think

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that might be a good place to just check and

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>see if that works for you. Because this is free

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and it basically lets you access your computer, you know,

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>through a phone, a tablet or another computer. So that

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>is another thing that I would look at. And it's

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty simple. It works on iOS or Android, and it's

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>like very very simple. That's called Google Chrome Remote Desktop

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and there are no I don't even think they have

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>a paid plan for that one. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>completely free. So I would check those Diana and otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>So again start with appealing like go on the customer

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>service with Team Viewer. See what they say, like, hey, okay,

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>your account got flag. Explain to them if you can

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>do it might be like a ticket like an email system.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm guessing. And then if that doesn't work,

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't really get that to work again.

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<v Speaker 2>The alternative is rust desk.

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<v Speaker 1>You might also want to pay, like there's so many

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>companies like go to my PC and all these other

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>companies that you know, you can pay for any desk.

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's many many paid services here. You might

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>even pay for Team Viewer if you feel like it's

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>worth it. But those are some of the big ones.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>But Chrome Remote Desktop is another alternative that you may

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<v Speaker 1>want to look into. Thanks for call Diana, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>In torrents today, let's see oh lgtvs ads on the screen.

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, we cannot escape advertising. It's everywhere on

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>our smart devices. So now LG Premium O led TVs

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<v Speaker 1>are showing people ads screen full screen screensaver ads on

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>their smart TVs. The ad appears before the typical screen

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>saver starts. The ads are for various things, could be

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>LG zoned services, other partners You could disable this by

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>going into the TV settings. There's a little switch that

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>says don't show screensaver ads, but we are seeing these

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>everywhere Amazon, Google, Roku, Apple TV is really the last

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>place where there's not a lot of home screen ads.

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Worst comes to worst. You can also just pull your TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Out from the internet if you don't need that smart

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>TV functionality, you know, turn off that Wi Fi or

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. We're Rich on Tech right after this. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with you, talking technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Phone lines are open at eight eight eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two

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<v Speaker 1>four one zero one. Coming up in the show, We've

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<v Speaker 1>still got some great guests. We're gonna talk about flying

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<v Speaker 1>air taxis. I don't know if you watched The Jetsons

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<v Speaker 1>like I did when I was a kid, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>dreamed of a flying car of course, back to the future.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who doesn't want this, Well, probably a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people, but I do. I mean, how many times

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<v Speaker 1>have I been stuck in traffic and I'm just like

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to fly over this. Uh, that reality

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<v Speaker 1>is actually getting closer than you might think. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to a guest about that. Uh, and later

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<v Speaker 1>in the show, we're gonna talk about social media and

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<v Speaker 1>kids and all the issues that they have with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm always testing something, by the way, this

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<v Speaker 1>week a couple of new products. It's honey, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do my job at KTLA, so I'm a tech

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<v Speaker 1>reporter here in Los Angeles on the rate on the

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>TV station, and then when I go home, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>all these boxes to open and like, you know, test

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<v Speaker 1>out these products, set them up this and that. So

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<v Speaker 1>this week a couple of products I was testing. First off,

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<v Speaker 1>the new Google TV streaming box. So you know you've

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<v Speaker 1>got streaming boxes from Roku, You've got Apple TV, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got Fire TV is that it Roku, Fire TV, Apple TV,

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and then you've got all the smart TVs. But then

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<v Speaker 1>Google used to have like a Chrome cast and the

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<v Speaker 1>streaming boxes or streaming dongles. Now they've got like a

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<v Speaker 1>streaming box. It's a hundred bucks and it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks just like Google TV. If you've been using that,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, my TV has Google TV built in, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is like in a box that's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more powerful, a little bit better. But

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was so funny when I set this thing up. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>number one, there's no HDMI cable. First thing I noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, where's the HMI cable. I can't connect this

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<v Speaker 1>thing to the TV. So I had to pull the

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<v Speaker 1>HDMI cable for my Apple TV, which is black, and

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<v Speaker 1>the the little Google TV is like a cream color,

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<v Speaker 1>so it just completely does not match. Like Google, you

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<v Speaker 1>should have included if you're gonna make a device that's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a standard color like, you should include the

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<v Speaker 1>HDMI cable. So people like me, I could see this

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<v Speaker 1>box and it like really bugs me that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the cables coming out of the back is black and

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<v Speaker 1>one is white, and so it's just like this weird

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like it needs to you know, it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to blend in anyway. But I'm not the only person

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<v Speaker 1>that noticed it didn't come with an HDMI cable. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are commenting about that online. But the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I thought was really interesting is that you

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<v Speaker 1>go through all this hassle of getting like a streamer,

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<v Speaker 1>like a streaming box, and then what do I find

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<v Speaker 1>on it? They've got this new thing called Google TV

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<v Speaker 1>free Play, and it's like one hundred and fifty channels

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<v Speaker 1>of like free stuff you can watch. But the best

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<v Speaker 1>part is that's nothing new. The best part is they've

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<v Speaker 1>made it so you can flip through the channels, just

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<v Speaker 1>like an old school TV. So we've come completely full

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<v Speaker 1>circle of you know how you sit in front of

0:35:56.920 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>your TV and you can't find anything to watch. You

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<v Speaker 1>go through all this hassle of getting like a streamer,

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<v Speaker 1>like a streaming box, and then what do I find

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<v Speaker 1>on it?

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<v Speaker 2>They've got this new thing called Google TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Free Play, and it's like one hundred and fifty channels

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<v Speaker 1>of like free stuff you can watch. But the best

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<v Speaker 1>part is that's nothing new. The best part is they've

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>made it so you can flip through the channels, just

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<v Speaker 1>like an old school TV. So we've come completely full

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<v Speaker 1>circle of you know how you sit in front of

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>your TV and you can't find anything to watch, and

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to start stuff on Netflix because then

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<v Speaker 1>it goes into that little bar of like, oh you

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<v Speaker 1>just watch this, like continue watching You're like, no, I didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>I just just chose like to watch a trailer for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So sometimes you just want stuff playing in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like old school TV, right when you got home,

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<v Speaker 1>used to just turn on the TV. It played stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It just played forever, whether it was a news or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah see Adam knows. But with this streaming stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just come home and like turn on the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to like use that brain power to like

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<v Speaker 1>select what do I want to watch? And you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put like your Netflix show that you're binging on

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<v Speaker 1>in the background. You want something like news or sports

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 1>or whatever just like playing. And now anyway, so now

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that. So it's got all these channels

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<v Speaker 1>and I was flipping through and it was just so

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<v Speaker 1>cool because I was like, you can press up and

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<v Speaker 1>down on the remote and just flip through all these

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.280
<v Speaker 1>they're streaming, they're not coming in through an antenna or cable.

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>They're just free. And so what did I land on?

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Supermarket Sweep? I was watching a Supermarket Sweep from like

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many twenty years ago when was

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<v Speaker 1>that show on?

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 2>But as a kid, that show was so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're running through that grocery store, pulling all

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<v Speaker 1>these I always wondered there must have been a rule

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<v Speaker 1>in that show where you couldn't just like sweep the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff off the shelf into your cart, like with a

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>big scoop of a hand, because people didn't do that.

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>They like pick stuff off the shelves and like put

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<v Speaker 1>it in the basket, So there must have been a

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>rule for that. But the thing is that these old

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<v Speaker 1>shows have like a new life because people just want

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff on in the background, and so they've got like

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>channels that show like, you know, all the old you know,

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>late night TV shows, Johnny Carson. They have shows channels

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>that just show like crime dramas the whole time. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's called Google TV free Play. It's really I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this box is fine. I think that the Google stuff

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 1>is really cool. Apparently two hundred and seventy million people

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>use Google TV every month. So if you're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a new kind of like streaming streaming box that's a

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>little different from the Apple TV, the Roku, the fire TV,

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>this is a nice alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>Also.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I liked is it has a find

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<v Speaker 1>my Remote button on the back, so you lose the

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 1>remote and the seat cushions, you go up to the

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 1>actual streaming box.

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<v Speaker 2>Theer's a button on the back of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You press it and the remote makes a sound, which

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, some of the other things do that as well,

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 1>but that's that's the other cool feature. I thought you

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>could also make screen art with AI. It's really good

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>at like finding movies and stuff with AI. So if

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you want like a really cutting edge kind of like

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, streaming system, I think Google's doing a

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>good job. The other thing I'm testing, we often will

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>get a cat as a foster, and so I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we usually get kittens that if like nor and they're

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<v Speaker 1>messy and they take over your whole house, and there's

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>usually like a couple of them, like two three kittens

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<v Speaker 1>that you're getting at a time. Well, this company, Nakasa

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<v Speaker 1>Nia Casa. I've always been fascinated with this idea because

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't really want a cat, but I like the

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>idea of cats, and my kids love cats. But the

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>litter box is always like such an issue, right you

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>got because who's end up who ends up cleaning the

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>litter box?

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Like me?

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Whenever we have these you're really on with this uh

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>things today? Yes, Okay, Adam doesn't talk to me. He

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>only talks me through the ringing of that bell.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been I've had this thing to set up

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>for like a couple of months now, and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for the right opportunity to test out this self

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<v Speaker 1>cleaning litter box.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe you've seen them.

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>They have some that like you put the litter in

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 1>and they rotate around to scoop out, you know, whatever

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the cat does in there. This one actually kind of

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 1>sits flat, like an open which they say the cats

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<v Speaker 1>like better because they can see around the box when

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 1>they're going to the bathroom. And then as soon as

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they're done, you know, it kind of feels the weight

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.320
<v Speaker 1>of the cat jump in there, and a couple of

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>minutes later, it kind of turns upwards, almost like those

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<v Speaker 1>like rides at the carnival, like those boats, you know,

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>like go back and forth. It does that, and it

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<v Speaker 1>gets all the droppings like into this little catch area

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>like a little tray, and so you can go like

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks without cleaning the kitty.

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<v Speaker 2>Letter.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we'll see, I'm testing it, we'll see, But

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<v Speaker 1>already the cat used it once today and as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as the cat jumped out, the litter cleaned itself. You

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.720
<v Speaker 1>could hear a little stuff like falling into the bottom.

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was pretty cool. Not cheap this one is.

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>It looks like it's currently on sale for about five

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks. So that's probably what keeps most people from saying, oh,

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>this would be a great thing to have in my house.

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 1>But when you do that math over time, I mean,

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:47.720
<v Speaker 1>this is like a this is like again the stuff

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that we imagined right that would be in the future,

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>like your litter box would clean itself. We actually have

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>that now. But a lot of this stuff is just

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's so prohibitively expensive for most people that

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>they don't get it. But I do know people that have,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think the whisker is the other one, the

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>one that rotates, and people who have.

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 2>These things absolutely love them.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the cat we got, by the way, is

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>an adult cat, and it was like a stray that

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>they found, and they're like, be very gentle with it.

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be you know, skittish and this and that.

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>This cat is like it's like a dog. It follows

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you around the house and it just literally is just

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>like the happiest little cat I've ever seen. And by

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the way, it's like small, it's like fully grown, but

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>it's small. So my entire family are cat people. They

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>we literally we have a Telegram family group chat, and

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent of the telegram messages are just my

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>family taking pictures of their cats doing stuff. And I'm like,

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>really anyway, and it's cute, but you know, you have

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to be into that stuff. If you woke up and

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>you found that your Kespersky anti virus on your computer

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>was replaced with a new program called ultra AV, well

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not alone.

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden.

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Earlier this month, people found that this program just changed names.

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>The Kespersky uninstalled itself and installed this new program called

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>ultra AV, and people were like what they were concerned.

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>They were confused, as many people are in general, wondering

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>if this was malware. And sure enough, Ultra av purchased

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the business from Kespersky. Because I don't if you remember,

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:21.959
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this on the show a while back,

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the US banned Kespersky because of its Russian origins. I

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>guess it's based over in Russia, and they said, no,

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>they can't have that on us.

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Computers.

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we saw what happened with CrowdStrike, you know

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>where that was a mistake, and look how many computers

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.399
<v Speaker 1>it took down. Imagine if a company wanted to take

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>down computers in the US. And you know, I'm not

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>saying that Kespersky is nefarious in any way, shape or form,

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:46.919
<v Speaker 1>but if they wanted to be, they could because they're

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of computers.

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 2>A lot of programs could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so this was purchased by a company called

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Pango Group. They have VPN brands as well, and people

0:42:58.600 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>were like, well, you never told us you were going

0:42:59.920 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to do this, and Pango.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, yeah, we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We notified you like September fifth, starting via email, in

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 1>app alerts, website notices, and of course what do you do.

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>You ignore all that stuff until you know this happens.

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, wait a second. What So if you

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<v Speaker 1>have ultra av I can't vouch for it. I can't

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>tell you if it's good or bad. But if you

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>had a subscription with Kesperski, that's what happened, and your

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>subscription will follow over, so you will get charged by

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>this new company when your subscription is up.

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<v Speaker 2>What I personally would do is ditch it all together.

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:32.399
<v Speaker 2>You know, let your.

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Subscription go, like just cancel it and then you know,

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>let the let the subscription run out, and then you know,

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>most people say you can pretty much use the Windows

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Defender built into Windows Microsoft Defender and that should be

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>just fine. As long as you keep that up to

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>date inactive, you should be okay. The bigger issue these

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>days is really phishing. I mean viruses in malware and ransomware.

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Of course, have a backup of your computer, but the

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>main way people are tricked these days is really through

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>phishing emails, text messages. So that's what you need to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the lookout for to not get tricked. Eighty

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<v Speaker 1>eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven four

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<v Speaker 1>to two four one zero one. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take some more of your calls, some of your emails,

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and I'll tell you why Disney the Free Ride is over,

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Disney Plus cracking down on password sharing. I'll explain how

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing it and if your college student will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to watch outside your household.

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<v Speaker 2>This is rich On Tech. Let's go to Robert in Alhambra. Robert,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on with.

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<v Speaker 9>Rich Hey, thanks you kicking to that call, Rich, I'm

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 9>looking for a new phone. I'd like something that can

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:46.479
<v Speaker 9>open and close apps with the voice commands and make

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 9>phone calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're you're interested in all the in the

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>voice command aspect.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, I'm visually impairied.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what do you have right now?

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 9>Sam sum?

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay? And what don't you like about? It doesn't and

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 2>not have the features and.

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<v Speaker 9>The opening closing the apps is not very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know you know the answer that I

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<v Speaker 1>have is going to be pretty stereotypical. But I think

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the iPhone does a great job with the with the

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<v Speaker 1>accessibility features.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. Have you looked into that?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 8>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I I think that the They've got

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<v Speaker 1>a feature called like voiceover, which can read pretty much

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:30.399
<v Speaker 1>anything on your screen. They've got Siri and you can

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you can basically program this thing to do whatever you

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>need it to do. When it comes to accessibility, Like

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.800
<v Speaker 1>if you go into the accessibility section of the iPhone,

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:41.840
<v Speaker 1>there are just so many features.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the pixel is pretty good too. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Google is doing a good job. But I really think

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<v Speaker 1>that Apple is kind of like a leader in this area.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm looking okay. So for vision, you said,

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>visually impaired vision's got. They've got voiceover, which will pretty

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>much read anything on your screen. They've also got live recognition,

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>so it will literally detect what you're pointing your phone at,

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 1>so it'll tell you like what you're you know, if

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>that's a door, if that's a you know, walkway, whatever

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>it is. I mean, just there's so many options just

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<v Speaker 1>in this one voiceover area, speech, Braille recognition, audio commands,

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>rotor activities, typing, navigation style, navigate images, large cursor. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many that's just voiceover.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you've got.

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<v Speaker 1>Zoom to make the screen a lot bigger display in

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:35.239
<v Speaker 1>text size, and it's got I mean, Robert, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you the the options you have in here, I really

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>think are gonna help you out motion. You can reduce

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 1>motion spoken content, you can speak pretty much anything that's

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen. Then you've got eye tracking that's a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new feature in iOS eighteen, so you can actually,

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<v Speaker 1>if your mobility impaired, you can actually use your eyes

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to control the screen without touching the screen. That is

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a feature that you know, people accessibility worlds have been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about and working on for years and it's just

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 1>now built into the iPhone. That's pretty amazing. There's hearing,

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of sound recognition. So if you want

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 1>your phone to tell you when you know there is

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a smoke alarm going off or some sort of other

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>sound that it can recognize, it will tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>with a visual notification on there. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone is probably going to be the best way

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to go now the model number. If you're just using

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<v Speaker 1>this for kind of day to day stuff, I don't

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 1>think you necessarily need the iPhone sixteen. They do sell

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>other versions of this phone right now, officially from Apple.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get the iPhone SE, the iPhone fourteen, fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say, if you're just needing like a

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.399
<v Speaker 1>basic phone, the iPhone fourteen is going to be fine.

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a couple of years old, and it's going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just a little bit cheaper than the current phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see how much are they selling that for. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be six hundred dollars for the iPhone fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to, I wouldn't go with the

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 1>iPhone SE right now. That's kind of the one that

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<v Speaker 1>still has the home button on it. The problem with

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 1>the iPhone se is that it's kind of aging out

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of the software updates, so it's not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a software update after probably not after this year, I'm guessing.

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>So it's not going to last you very long. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would go with the fourteen six hundred dollars. I

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 1>think Robert set up those features. If you need someone

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to kind of help you set up those features, I

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 1>really think it's going to be a way better situation

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>than what you've got right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So and I think Samsung does a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think that from what I see and

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<v Speaker 1>hear from Apple, Like when I go to Apple events,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually make a point of talking about the accessibility features.

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Like they make a point of saying, here's what we

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>are actively doing to make these devices easier for people

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>of all abilities to use. And they're always thinking about

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. I mean the the not just the iPhone,

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 1>but the Apple Watch and the I mean they just

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>added the ability to use air pods as hearing aids,

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:05.879
<v Speaker 1>the air pods pros two.

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, imagine all the people.

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 1>That already have AirPods out there that can now just

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>turn them into hearing aids when this software update hits.

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:14.479
<v Speaker 2>It has not hit just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are really incredible things that're they're pushing forward.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that Google, I think, does a lot

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 1>of stuff for accessibility.

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't hear about it as much through Google, but.

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that when I go to their events, it's

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:30.280
<v Speaker 1>definitely a topic that they are. You know, it's prevalent

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 1>at the events as well, Like they've had people on

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 1>stage that talk about it. They've had special guests, and

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 1>they do show how they're helping along people, you know, varying.

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Abilities use their devices as well. But I think the.

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 1>iPhone is going to have the widest ranging features and

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 1>also if you need help, you can go to an

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Apple store and they will be happy to help you

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<v Speaker 1>walk you through some of these features. Thanks for the

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>call today, Robert eighty to eight rich one oh one

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, we're going to talk to some from Joby Aviation.

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<v Speaker 1>They are creating an electric air taxi. Hear all about

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:11.000
<v Speaker 1>how you can soar over traffic coming soon right here. Next,

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 1>here's a topic I've been thinking about ever since I

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<v Speaker 1>watched The Jetsons as a kid flying cars. Now, we're

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>not there just yet, but a new flying air taxi

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 1>might be the next best thing. A startup named Jobi

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<v Speaker 1>is working on a four seater vertical takeoff and landing

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<v Speaker 1>aircraft that source above traffic. Recently, it was on display

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<v Speaker 1>in LA and I talked to their chief product officer,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Allison about it.

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<v Speaker 10>So Joby is a company that's developing a vertical takeoff

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 10>and landing all electric air taxi and also developing a

0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 10>service that will be able to deliver that air taxi

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<v Speaker 10>to you anywhere you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to an app on your iPhone. Okay, well let's

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:52.880
<v Speaker 1>break it down. So first off, yeah, give me the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of this kind of aircraft versus a typical plane

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 1>or helicopter.

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<v Speaker 10>So our aircraft is uses new technology, the technology of batteries,

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:04.399
<v Speaker 10>electric motors, high performance electronics to be able to take

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<v Speaker 10>up and land vertically like a helicopter, but then transition

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 10>to forward flight like a regular airplane. So but that

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 10>gets us the flexibility of a helicopter with the efficiency

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 10>of an airplane. Then what it lets you do as

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 10>well is do all that with low noise. So we

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 10>bring all that together basically to have high efficiency, have

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 10>low noise, great operating costs. To make air taxis something

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<v Speaker 10>that people have wanted to do for a really long

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<v Speaker 10>time actually possible in the very near term.

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<v Speaker 3>So what is the benefit of an air taxi?

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<v Speaker 10>So our air taxi lets you wherever you are. You

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 10>can open up your phone in with one of our

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 10>partners like Uber or Delta, select where you are, and

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:46.839
<v Speaker 10>then basically get a ride to where you want to go.

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 10>But instead of being stuck in traffic, which I know

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:52.440
<v Speaker 10>that consumers in LA get stuck on average to what

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<v Speaker 10>like one hundred hours I think of traffic per year

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 10>you're sitting in you can just fly through the air

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<v Speaker 10>at up to two hundred.

0:51:59.160 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 3>Miles an hour.

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 10>So a trip that might take an hour and a

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 10>half to go from someplace like downtown LA to lax

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 10>could take seven or eight minutes and set so freeze

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 10>you from the traffic in a way that you just

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:13.799
<v Speaker 10>can't right now with any other technology.

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:14.359
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 10>So there will be landing designated takeoff and landing areas,

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 10>so we call them skyports or verteports, basically places where

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 10>the aircraft can take off and land just kind of

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:27.800
<v Speaker 10>like a heliport would be with the old technology of helicopters,

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:31.160
<v Speaker 10>And what we'll do is use rideshare to connect you

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 10>with wherever you are to those verteports, and then from

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:36.800
<v Speaker 10>wherever the kind of remote vertiport is to where you

0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:38.320
<v Speaker 10>want to be. So it's an end to end journey,

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 10>but it's going to be through a couple of different

0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 10>vehicles depending on how close you are. If you can

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 10>walk or bike or something to that verteport.

0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 1>And so tell them about the aircraft itself. I mean,

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>you said it's electric, you said it's quiet. What else

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 1>do we need to know? It looks pretty simple.

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:55.600
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, So it's four seats, so four passenger seats and

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 10>one pilot, so it's operated by a commercially rated pilot.

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 10>It can take off and land vert just like a helicopter.

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 10>Right here in this configuration, the propellers are pointed up,

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 10>but once it takes off, it transitions forward and those

0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 10>propellers come down and point forward just like a regular aircraft.

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:12.800
<v Speaker 3>It can fly really quietly.

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 10>So if it was flying over here at about one

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 10>thousand feet, which is like low even for a helicopter,

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:20.319
<v Speaker 10>it basical would be silent. You wouldn't hear it as

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 10>it flies over and in takeoff and landing, we could

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 10>have this conversation if the aircraft was three hundred feet

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 10>away and we wouldn't have to raise our voices.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a demonstration flight last year in New York City.

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<v Speaker 10>Actually we flew off of the Lower Manhattan Heliport within

0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:36.759
<v Speaker 10>a mayor press conference with the mayor there and just

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:38.880
<v Speaker 10>kind of did a little circuit around over the river.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was amazing that to.

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<v Speaker 10>See people's response because helicopter noises a real problem, and

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 10>when places that actually have an option to use helicopters

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 10>in a regular basis, people don't like.

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:50.759
<v Speaker 3>The racket all right.

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 1>So I know the question that is on a lot

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of people's minds is safety.

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:56.319
<v Speaker 3>How safe is something like this?

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<v Speaker 10>So that's what's really incredible about this new technology. So

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:02.600
<v Speaker 10>that what we've done is taken a new approach to

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.880
<v Speaker 10>how we design and build aircraft that actually lets us

0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:11.719
<v Speaker 10>add in kind of unprecedented levels of redundancy and kind

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 10>of architecture that really makes this kind of a remarkable machine.

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 3>So I'll give you an example of this.

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 10>So in our aircraft, there's not just one battery, there's

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 10>four batteries, and each of those four batteries are completely independent,

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 10>and they're hooked up to different motors in such a

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:26.520
<v Speaker 10>way that if you had a failure of one of

0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:30.239
<v Speaker 10>those batteries during flight, you could still operate safely. And

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 10>then in the motors themselves, each motor is actually two

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:37.480
<v Speaker 10>motors that are combined together, and each of those two

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.640
<v Speaker 10>motors are driven by two different sets of electronics, and

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 10>those electronics are driven by different battery.

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<v Speaker 1>When are we going to see something like this in

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:46.560
<v Speaker 1>a city like Los Angeles?

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:48.000
<v Speaker 3>So we are hard at work.

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 10>We've got almost two thousand people at JOBI, the vast

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 10>majority of which are.

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Working on FA certifications.

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:55.360
<v Speaker 10>So in order to launch commercially in the US, we

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 10>have to be certified with the FAA, just.

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Like any other commercially operated aircraft. We're working hard at that.

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.719
<v Speaker 10>We publish a quarterly update basically on how we're doing

0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:06.799
<v Speaker 10>relative to all the steps and certification.

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 3>It's a very long process.

0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:10.840
<v Speaker 10>That has a really high bar and so you know,

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 10>we're we're happy to be going through it, but it's

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 10>a lot of work.

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Cost Obviously, you're not selling this to the general public,

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you're operating it.

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:20.399
<v Speaker 3>But what can someone expect to pay for a ride in.

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 10>This so we think that we can launch at something

0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 10>like Uber black pricing per seat.

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 3>So that's our goal is to launch kind of in

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 3>that range.

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:30.839
<v Speaker 10>So kind of it's a you know, like a premium ride,

0:55:31.800 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 10>so kind of for a depending on the trip, right,

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 10>so kind of on a per mile basis, kind of

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 10>Uber black like pricing per seat.

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 3>We think that as we are able to develop.

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:43.920
<v Speaker 10>That network, get more verteports installed, kind of have more

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:47.640
<v Speaker 10>efficiency overall, and how we get filled more seats on demand,

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 10>we'll be able to drive that price down more towards

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.239
<v Speaker 10>Uber x like pricing on a per seat basis as

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 10>we get more and more volume of people using these

0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:58.120
<v Speaker 10>types of aircraft for air taxis on a regular basis.

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.840
<v Speaker 1>What's the range on this aircraft often? How long does

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it take to recharge?

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 10>So we are able to service flights for up to

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:08.320
<v Speaker 10>one hundred miles, so that's kind of the target max

0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 10>distance that will serve in terms of our flights. And

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 10>then we actually have designed it to be rechargeable during

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:18.319
<v Speaker 10>the loading and off loading period of when we have

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 10>this air taxi service operating, so you know, when it

0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 10>lands at the vertiport, whoever is in it will get out,

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:26.200
<v Speaker 10>and then more people will get in the pilot will

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:28.839
<v Speaker 10>do their checks before they take off again. And we've

0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 10>designed an open specification actually that we call GEEKS, which

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 10>is the Global Electric Aircraft System, that charging system actually

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:43.920
<v Speaker 10>that is actually a charging system designed explicitly for electric aircraft.

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 3>They're in an air taxi operation.

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:48.440
<v Speaker 1>And if these were everywhere, what do you think the

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 1>impact is on transportation?

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:54.320
<v Speaker 10>So I think that's one of the most exciting things

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:57.239
<v Speaker 10>that if we think about just even taking starting to

0:56:57.280 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 10>take a small dent out of the amount of traffic.

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:00.799
<v Speaker 10>You know, studies have shown that you just take a

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:04.600
<v Speaker 10>few percent of cars off the road, particularly during peak times,

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:07.319
<v Speaker 10>you actually start to see an overall benefit to the

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 10>overall system.

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm over and over and over again.

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:11.879
<v Speaker 10>I think that for me, like the idea of being

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.880
<v Speaker 10>able to go to work, you know, go out for

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 10>dinner and not be stuck in traffic. I mean, even

0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 10>in the best case scenario, if you matter how much

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 10>you want to pay for ground transportation, if you're you know,

0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 10>going from here to Dodger Stadium or something on a

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 10>Thursday evening, it's just going to take a really long time.

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 10>And to have an option that I can do that

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 10>in seven minutes or eight minutes instead of an hour

0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 10>and a half.

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:36.440
<v Speaker 3>That's that's amazing.

0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 10>And I think that it starts to change our relationship

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:41.439
<v Speaker 10>with mobility. It starts to change about how we think

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 10>about moving around our cities, and I think it makes

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 10>a world a better place.

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:46.840
<v Speaker 3>So I'm really excited to see us launch.

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 1>You've taken test flights, I imagine.

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:51.200
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so we actually have flown I think it's over

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 10>ten thousand miles of test flying so far on our prototype.

0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 10>So we have several prototypes that our facility up up

0:57:56.840 --> 0:58:00.040
<v Speaker 10>in near Monterey, California. Marina is the airport that we

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:01.680
<v Speaker 10>fly out of for our test flights. We actually have

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 10>one of our airplanes up at Edwards Air Force Base

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 10>just north of Palmdale, right here in the LA Region,

0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 10>where we're working with the Air Force on under an

0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 10>innovative program doing some test flying of one of our

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 10>aircraft up there to show some of the utility for

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 10>this new type of technology and a logistics context for

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 10>the Air Force on a military base as well.

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Have you flown in it? I have not.

0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 10>All of our flights so far either remote a test

0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:28.680
<v Speaker 10>pilot so far and I'm not a test pilot.

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 1>How would you describe How would they describe what it

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:32.680
<v Speaker 1>feels like? Does it feel like a helicopters? It feel

0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>like floating, It feels different than a helicopter.

0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:38.680
<v Speaker 3>It's just like a different type of a machine.

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:41.520
<v Speaker 10>And so they love it, they want They are very

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:43.840
<v Speaker 10>excited to do lots more flying and we're really excited

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 10>to have more people experience this as our system matures

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:49.880
<v Speaker 10>and as we move through that testing with the FAA

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 10>to get to our full commercial launch.

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Once again, that was Eric Allison of Joby giving us

0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a glimpse into the future of urban transportation. The company

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:00.840
<v Speaker 1>is targeting a launch next year. And a bit of

0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:04.080
<v Speaker 1>trivia for you. Joby Aviation was started by the same

0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:08.560
<v Speaker 1>guy who created Joby Gorilla pods, those flexible mobile tripods

0:59:08.680 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 1>for smartphones. I'm Rich Deimiro more Rich on Tech coming

0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:18.840
<v Speaker 1>your way right after this, Jeff, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thanks for taking the call. The reason I'm calling

0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 4>is we have a couple of us with several Apple

0:59:28.080 --> 0:59:32.560
<v Speaker 4>iOS devices in our household. One set of them on

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 4>my account actually doesn't have any problems like the other

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:43.280
<v Speaker 4>one does, but my wife's account on both of iPhone

0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:47.560
<v Speaker 4>and the iPad constantly need We've tried a lot of

0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:51.080
<v Speaker 4>different things, but ultimately the only fix for our problem

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:56.200
<v Speaker 4>is to get the email to sync from Yahoo gmails okay,

0:59:56.520 --> 1:00:04.080
<v Speaker 4>Icloud's okay, but constantly and battling why the the emails

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<v Speaker 4>on the Yahoo emails on her iOS and Apple iPad

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<v Speaker 4>and iPhone not always together, but at least one of

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<v Speaker 4>them will just not sink.

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<v Speaker 1>So delete, So delete an email from one of those

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<v Speaker 1>devices and that's not deleted on the other one, or

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<v Speaker 1>what's the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that as well as we just don't have the

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<v Speaker 4>current you know, emails come through. It might be a

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<v Speaker 4>day or two with the last one showing when we

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<v Speaker 4>know that there's been other emails.

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<v Speaker 2>That's weird.

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<v Speaker 4>OK. The only thing for that is we've found so

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<v Speaker 4>far as we go in to the settings for mail,

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<v Speaker 4>delete the Yahoo account at it back in and then

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<v Speaker 4>it's okay for a period of time, maybe a day

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<v Speaker 4>or two, maybe a week or two. But we constantly

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<v Speaker 4>have to do that, and I never have the problem

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<v Speaker 4>she does. She has more read emails than I that

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<v Speaker 4>are in I don't know if that's the reason, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I tend to delete them you know, read them to

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<v Speaker 4>do something with them and delete them. But that's the

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<v Speaker 4>only real difference. We both had the same model iPads,

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<v Speaker 4>iPhones and kind of you know, subscription or is this

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<v Speaker 4>a whatever service we have with Yahoo?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a Yahoo email address through Yahoo? Or is

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<v Speaker 2>it through like cops or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>No, through through Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, Well look, I mean, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to suggest deleting the emails and uh and readding them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's usually the way that's going to work because sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>these accounts, if they're they've been added a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the protocol was different.

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<v Speaker 2>But it sounds like she's done that. When was the

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<v Speaker 2>last time you.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that across Have you deleted them across all the

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<v Speaker 1>different devices and then readded them?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, I just did last night, went through and

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<v Speaker 4>deleted the Yahoo account from the iOS mail on the phone,

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<v Speaker 4>and then about a half hour later did it to

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<v Speaker 4>the iPad. So they're all thinking now right and then

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<v Speaker 4>I stop, you know, okay, well look it will it'll

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<v Speaker 4>eventually stop. It hasn't stopped thinking yet, but it seems

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<v Speaker 4>like it will.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had a dollar for every time someone had

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with Yahoo email, I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>deal is, and they just revamped it and it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be better. I mean, I remember when Yahoo email

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<v Speaker 1>is like, you know, it's really good, and now people

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<v Speaker 1>just complain about it for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>But look, I think the easiest thing to do here

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation, if you're not if it's not sinking properly,

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<v Speaker 1>is to use the Yahoo app to to check the email.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a reason that she doesn't want to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>because that would make it work for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we can except that the r that she uses

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<v Speaker 4>both Gmail and the Yahoo as well as I do,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's in one list that it's something with your calendar,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's all in one list. And if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to just say creative, you know, invite someone sends you

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<v Speaker 4>an invite into Yahoo, it's a little more. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if it's easier, but it's least consistent the way

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<v Speaker 4>you do it, you know. Yeah, and it is the Gmail.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that's we realize that's the possibility too, because

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<v Speaker 4>going into the app, it's it's all we think.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so the only other thing you could do

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<v Speaker 1>is perhaps, I mean, I'm really trying to I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no reason why this should not work.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if she's using the only other thing I

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<v Speaker 1>can think of is that the way that her her

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<v Speaker 1>mail is set up on the device. Are these recent devices?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they older devices?

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<v Speaker 4>No, We've had them both for year or two.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's a recent yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only thing I can think of is the

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<v Speaker 1>background sinking is not working, like when she deletes an email,

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<v Speaker 1>like the the mail app is just not like updating somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's you know, it's not sending the signal to

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<v Speaker 1>Yahoo to say, hey, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Get rid of this email or put this in this

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<v Speaker 2>fold or whatever. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only thing I can think of the other

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<v Speaker 1>The only other thing I might say is if you

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<v Speaker 1>can go into your Yahoo account and check to see

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<v Speaker 1>if if there's like signed in devices or anything like

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<v Speaker 1>that and get rid of any of those devices. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to sign into my Yahoo account, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to get the code that I need. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would go into the like your Yahoo account and see

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<v Speaker 1>if there's anything under like authorized devices, authorized applications, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is you sometimes they call it permissions, third you know,

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<v Speaker 1>third party permissions whatever, and just get rid of those

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<v Speaker 1>devices and see if that's messing it up. So there

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<v Speaker 1>might be a section just go through all like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the settings on the Yahoo account and see if

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<v Speaker 1>there's anything where you can get rid of old phones,

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of old connected devices, and just see if

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<v Speaker 1>that helps if you remove those, because one of those

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<v Speaker 1>might be messing it up as well. So otherwise, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just suggest using the Yahoo mail account or

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<v Speaker 1>the email app and seeing if that works, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no reason why this shouldn't sync to the email app

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<v Speaker 1>on the iPhone or iOS devices. I mean, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>straightforward imapp connection. The only other thing I would do

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<v Speaker 1>is once you delete it off of all of the devices,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said that, you have to delete it and reauthorize,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe restart the device and then at it again. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the only other thing I can think of, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's an interesting one. And the good thing about

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<v Speaker 1>the show, if someone else is happening that issue, they

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<v Speaker 1>can email me and let me know Rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot tv hit contact Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully you figure that out.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, the backup is to use the Yahoo email app,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that's gonna work for sure, So that

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<v Speaker 1>might be I know it's not ideal because it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>to have all the emails in one list and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, but that's a surefire away around this issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Paully in uh Michigan. Polly, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>with Rich.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey, Rich, you made me laugh about old school TV,

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<v Speaker 11>and I was thinking, you don't have an old school

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<v Speaker 11>television channel changer until you need vice scripts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that's what like the the old like

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<v Speaker 1>rotary knob. Are you talking like that used to pop

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<v Speaker 1>off the TV?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, because the that's always frolks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that's like that's really bringing it back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, uh, you have to get up to change

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<v Speaker 1>the channel, right you did?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that's that's like that's not like almost

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<v Speaker 1>probably the beginning of my time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think my first memory was like the cable

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<v Speaker 1>box like changer like that slid left and right. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember that. No, anyway, that was really old school

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<v Speaker 1>back in New Jersey. Maybe it was a Jersey thing. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>what can I help you with, Polly.

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<v Speaker 11>I have a business and had a YouTube channel, and

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<v Speaker 11>the YouTube removed it permanently. I'm just hoping you had

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<v Speaker 11>some advice. They said it was dude to spam and

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<v Speaker 11>hate speech or something like that, which they would give

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<v Speaker 11>me no examples, and I appealed it. They denied it.

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<v Speaker 11>I wonder if you had any advice, and they said,

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<v Speaker 11>I can't have another channel again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, what did you do, Polly? What was

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<v Speaker 2>your channel about.

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<v Speaker 11>Humming Bird theaters? What so devices?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, really, really, Polly, that is wild and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>at YouTube would would they read your appeal?

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<v Speaker 2>And they still said no.

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<v Speaker 11>It sounded pretty automated when they denied the appeal too.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the only thing I can think of, so you

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<v Speaker 1>log into YouTube and you've got nothing. You can't get in,

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing, Okay. The only thing I can think of

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<v Speaker 1>is you have to write a letter. Use AI write

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<v Speaker 1>a letter, and you've got to send another appeal and

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<v Speaker 1>tell them this is your channel, this is the content.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I can think of is that you

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<v Speaker 1>got hacked on this channel somehow and someone else did

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<v Speaker 1>something on your behalf that you did not know about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only thing I can think of. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're running a Hummingbird YouTube channel and we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>hummingbird like feeders. You should be okay. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>get that channel back, Polly. This is rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you for another hour right here on rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech. The website for the show rich on Tech

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<v Speaker 1>is show number ninety one and get links to anything

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<v Speaker 1>Tech dot TV. Hit contact. You can send an email there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got lots of emails, I've got lots of stories

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, and lots of phone calls. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a good problem to have, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can never make it through everything that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>in a given week on this show because I try

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<v Speaker 1>to prioritize you live callers like Rick in Thousand Oaks.

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<v Speaker 12>You're on with Rich Hi, I'm what I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 12>is a program or an app that would sync with

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<v Speaker 12>my bank so I can see sort of real time

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<v Speaker 12>what my bank bounces. I know I could go online

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<v Speaker 12>and look, but you know, we do still write checks

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<v Speaker 12>and I hope that that, but have some way to

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<v Speaker 12>manually enter a check in that I write and you know,

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<v Speaker 12>the bank doesn't know about it till it hits them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, like a budgeting Okay, so you're talking like

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<v Speaker 1>more like a budgeting program.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I'll tell you what I do. I

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<v Speaker 1>just use a spreadsheet. I mean, that's the easiest way

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. That's free and simple.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean it's like, you know, I tried that with

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<v Speaker 12>Excel all But the problem I'm having is, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>between my wife and I, we're making multiple ATM purchases

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<v Speaker 12>a day. We just don't seem to use cash. And

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<v Speaker 12>you know, you buy gas, you go out to lunch,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, go to the doctor, there's cocaine. It's just

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<v Speaker 12>and you know, it's just hundreds of dollars over a

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<v Speaker 12>few days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's two ways you could do this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do something kind of different that because I I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of using my credit card, so I want

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<v Speaker 1>to spend cash when possible because that way I can

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<v Speaker 1>stay within budget.

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<v Speaker 2>And it sounds like that's what you're doing as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I do is I actually set up a

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<v Speaker 1>separate debit card just for all those days to day expenditures.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure there's like an average of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>spending on this stuff. You can put that into that

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<v Speaker 1>debit card every week and then you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>track it as much. And what I do is my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and I both we just know the balance every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say that I want to buy a new shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look in this balance on this account, the

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<v Speaker 1>special account that we have we call fun money personally,

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<v Speaker 1>and if there's only you know, a ten dollars left

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<v Speaker 1>in that account and the shirt that I want is thirty, well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, I can't buy the shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a very simple example. Hopefully we keep enough

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<v Speaker 1>in there where it's like you can do the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you need to do. But that's what we're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>is we're every single transaction. I don't have to monitor

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<v Speaker 1>the day to day transactions of the cope at the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor's office, the Jersey mics I get for lunch, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, because it's all coming out of that account

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<v Speaker 1>that we've kind of figured out. You know, I reassess

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<v Speaker 1>every six months or so, how much do we spend

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, eating out, how much do we spend

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<v Speaker 1>on clothes, how much do we spend on this? And

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<v Speaker 1>then you kind of put that amount in each week

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<v Speaker 1>to this account. Now that kind of takes a whole

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<v Speaker 1>nother method, but it would definitely solve this problem. And

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<v Speaker 1>because you're writing checks and doing all this stuff, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be something when you write a check you can

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<v Speaker 1>easily use the spreadsheet to take that out of your

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<v Speaker 1>standard checking. Now that's just one simple way of doing

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<v Speaker 1>it that I've come up with because again, none of

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<v Speaker 1>the other methods for me would work, which is, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to come to a giant credit card bill

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<v Speaker 1>every month and sit down and be like, okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>how do I pay this? So that's what I've done. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there are budgeting apps out there. There are many many

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<v Speaker 1>budgeting apps out there. I mean that, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>Every Dollar by Dave Ramsey. There's a winnab which is

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<v Speaker 1>you need a budget Rocket Money has I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they can. I don't think Rocket money lets you put

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<v Speaker 1>in a check though, but really you need like a

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<v Speaker 1>budgeting software. So I would say Every Dollar's probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be something that works for you. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a paid it's like a freemium thing. I've

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<v Speaker 1>tried that you need a budget. I don't really, it's

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<v Speaker 1>way too complicated for me. And I'll be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>just every time this happens, I just keep going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the spreadsheet and that's what I use over and

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<v Speaker 1>over the spreadsheet with that the method I just told

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<v Speaker 1>you about. I call it a reverse credit card because

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<v Speaker 1>basically you're putting money in before you spend it.

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<v Speaker 2>But have you heard of any of those programs I mentioned?

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<v Speaker 12>I have not, But it's just something I've been frustrated

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<v Speaker 12>with and trying to figure out a way. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 12>and it hurts me, like you know, if it's sinkd

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<v Speaker 12>Very often I would see a really pretty accurate thing,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, it's on my phone or something. But then

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<v Speaker 12>I'm kind of worried about you know what if I'm

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<v Speaker 12>walking into a Starbucks when it starts thinking or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>you know that it might be you know a security.

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<v Speaker 2>Issue, right, Well, yeah, it's if it's.

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<v Speaker 12>On three times a day with my bank, that's a

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<v Speaker 12>lot of activity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it is. And most of these things, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they they sink sort of like on demand.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like if I if I go into like

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<v Speaker 1>let's say Rocket Money or something like that, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>SYNCD in the background. It's like sinking when you open

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<v Speaker 1>the app. I think for that reason also, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they have to pay. There's like a third party company

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<v Speaker 1>like plaid is typically the company that connects your bank

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<v Speaker 1>to these apps. And I think that, of course that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a free service. These these apps have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>every time they ping that service. So now, what would

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<v Speaker 1>be nice if your bank lets you do this, You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if your bank, because that's what most people are doing,

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<v Speaker 1>is they're checking their balance on their debit card and

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<v Speaker 1>then they spend, right, So it'd be nice if you

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<v Speaker 1>can add that check into the the app itself from

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<v Speaker 1>your bank and say, hey, look, I spent twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on this check, you know, reflect that on my account.

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<v Speaker 1>That would make too much sense because banks, obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just being a little bit real here, they probably want

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<v Speaker 1>you to overdraft or they probably want you to spend

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<v Speaker 1>too much, so they're not going to make it that

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<v Speaker 1>easy for you. But that would be a nice feature

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<v Speaker 1>for them to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I like my method. I've used it for

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<v Speaker 2>many years.

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<v Speaker 1>It works very very well, and it's simple, and again

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<v Speaker 1>I only have to worry about that account once a

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<v Speaker 1>week or so. And again you get that side, that

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<v Speaker 1>side benefit of you're not overspending and you can spend

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<v Speaker 1>as you want because you just look at that balance.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have five hundred dollars in there, you can

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<v Speaker 1>spend up to five hundred dollars, you know, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you have your you know, make sure that you've

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<v Speaker 1>got all your stuff covered. But I think the every

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<v Speaker 1>Dollar app would probably be closest to what you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about because you could do it from your phone and

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<v Speaker 1>you could put those transactions in as you go along,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can also reconcile. So the paid part of

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<v Speaker 1>that app is that it reconciles from your bank is says, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you just had three new transactions come through. Where do

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, what are those four?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that for your I don't know, You're you're dining

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<v Speaker 1>out fund or whatever it is. So that's that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to do it. I think that budgeting

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<v Speaker 1>is not easy. It's it's a very complicated process, even

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<v Speaker 1>with all these apps, because if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they all want to make money. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to have some sort of freemium thing and they want

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<v Speaker 1>to make your life easy, but also they have a

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<v Speaker 1>business to do. So again, I've tried every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of these apps, every single money app out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I come back to I've been using a spreadsheet for

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years and every Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Open up the spreadsheet, go through all the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally have to input every single item into that spreadsheet,

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<v Speaker 1>balance it out, and make sure that it's like a checkbook,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make sure that it's all balanced and the

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<v Speaker 1>money's there. But with the exception of what I call

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<v Speaker 1>that fun money account, I call it a reverse credit card.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is money that already goes in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>so when you know, let's say you put in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred dollars a week, and that money you can

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want with because you're actually doing your

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<v Speaker 1>main bills from your standard checking account. So I know

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<v Speaker 1>this gets a little nuanced, but it's a very simple

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<v Speaker 1>way of kind of Okay, you know, your electricity bill

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<v Speaker 1>is do every month on the eighteenth, you put that

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<v Speaker 1>in the budget. That goes in the budget on the spreadsheet,

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't know that you're going to go out

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<v Speaker 1>to Starbucks after work with a friend and get a

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<v Speaker 1>coffee for six dollars and you know, seventy five cents

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<v Speaker 1>whatever charging nowadays for one of those lattes, And so

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<v Speaker 1>that just comes out of the fun money and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to think about it now.

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<v Speaker 2>You just know that balance on fun money.

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<v Speaker 1>Is four hundred and ninety three dollars and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>that to spend until the next week rolls around, or

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<v Speaker 1>payday or whatever you want to do. But that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good Another good topic which a lot of people ask

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<v Speaker 1>about too, Rick, thanks for the call, is how to

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<v Speaker 1>see your net worth on one page? And so there

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<v Speaker 1>used to be a great app for this called Mint,

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<v Speaker 1>which I remember I was working at k CAL News

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<v Speaker 1>here in Los Angeles, k CAL nine and Mint came

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<v Speaker 1>out and it was like the first app that put

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<v Speaker 1>all of your accounts in one place, Like you could

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<v Speaker 1>now take your credit card, you know, your car if

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<v Speaker 1>you had a car payment, you could put that in there,

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<v Speaker 1>your savings account, your four to one K and you

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<v Speaker 1>can put it all in one place and it would

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<v Speaker 1>literally take every transaction, reconcile and show you your net

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<v Speaker 1>worth on one page. And this was mind boggling yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this was probably fifteen years ago, and it was so

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<v Speaker 1>cool to see everything in one place, all the transactions.

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<v Speaker 1>You can make a budget, you could do this, you could.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just so so cool. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that I think people saw like their

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<v Speaker 1>net worth in one app, and that was great and

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<v Speaker 1>they had a great run until you know, they got

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<v Speaker 1>purchased and it just got run into the ground. And

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<v Speaker 1>now it's called credit Karma, I think, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>not very good. And I'd say like ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>of people who switched to that do not like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so they've been looking for a new app to

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<v Speaker 1>see all of their net worth on one page. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just go through these quick. The ones that I like.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like Rocket Money, which I think is really

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<v Speaker 1>really cool, Like I used that yesterday actually to budget

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<v Speaker 1>because it shows you on a calendar every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of your bills, so you can go through the month

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<v Speaker 1>and literally on you know, September first, you have this

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<v Speaker 1>bill due September second, and it figures that out by

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<v Speaker 1>linking up to all of your accounts, so even if

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<v Speaker 1>you forgot that you have a bill coming up, like

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<v Speaker 1>a recurring bill like I pay for Dropbox on I

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<v Speaker 1>think September thirtieth or something like that. It remembers that

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<v Speaker 1>even though that's only once a year that I pay

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<v Speaker 1>for that, it knows it's on that calend, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh cool, let me put that in the budget. So

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<v Speaker 1>Rocket Money's really good. Betterment b E T T E

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<v Speaker 1>R M E n T. Betterment is really cool for

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<v Speaker 1>seeing all your stuff on one page. The one that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is the best and the easiest is called

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<v Speaker 1>Empower E M P O W E R. If you

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<v Speaker 1>just want to see your net worth on one page.

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<v Speaker 1>Empower Personal Dashboard. They've got an app for iPhone and Android.

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<v Speaker 1>That one's really good. It used to be called Personal Capital.

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<v Speaker 1>They change the name, but it's such an easy way

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<v Speaker 1>to see that and it's actually, you know what, rick

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<v Speaker 1>to answer your question they do on this app, it

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<v Speaker 1>does say you can budget, So maybe try that one

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<v Speaker 1>and see if they let you put your checks in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's one from Fidelity.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not tried this, but it's called Fidelity Full View,

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<v Speaker 1>and same thing. You can see all of your accounts

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know it's neat because you've got money

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<v Speaker 1>in one account, but you know, you've got money in

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<v Speaker 1>this account, that account. That account puts it all together

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<v Speaker 1>and it does net worth, so it takes all the

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<v Speaker 1>accounts and you can actually see what kind of your

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<v Speaker 1>final balance is like the stuff you have, the money

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<v Speaker 1>you have minus the money you owe.

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<v Speaker 2>How much is that you know? Leftover? Great question, Rick,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for the call.

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<v Speaker 1>Toda eight thousand, oaks eighty eight, rich one o one

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<v Speaker 1>My two favorite things, two favorite topics, money and tech

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of money, Disney, the free ride is over. No

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<v Speaker 1>more sharing your password. I'll explain how they're cracking down.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology. The website for the show

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<v Speaker 1>and apps I can help you see your net worth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all on the website. Rich on Tech dot TV

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<v Speaker 1>Show number ninety one. Hit the light bulb to get

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<v Speaker 1>things in there. By the way, if you're scrolling through

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook and you see your own picture in AI, like

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<v Speaker 1>an AI generated image of you, do not be alarmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you should be alarmed.

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<v Speaker 1>So Meta had their Meta connect this week and they

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that they're really pushing AI down the throats of

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that uses Facebook. Apparently a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>actually using their Meta AI. Even though when it first

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<v Speaker 1>started people were like, how do I turn this thing off?

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually quite good.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to use a completely free version

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<v Speaker 1>of AI, metas ai is actually really good. And why

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<v Speaker 1>is it good Because it's been training on your posts

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<v Speaker 1>for the past twenty years or so, so that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's so good. Well, when did Facebook come out? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see Facebook launch date? Facebook February fourth, twenty two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and four. Oh, can I get a ding that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years? Come on, let's see anyway, Facebook twenty years? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you? So yes, they've been training their AI on

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<v Speaker 1>your posts, and so they're trying to get people to

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<v Speaker 1>like use this like AI generator called Imagine Yourself. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're just going to start generating pictures of you in

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<v Speaker 1>like different situations. Like you might be scrolling through Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>and see you like as like a medieval king or queen,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, what is that my face? And it'll

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<v Speaker 1>get your interest, so you'll click and you'll try using that.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be like, oh cool, I want to see myself

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<v Speaker 1>as a surfer on a skateboard, you know, fighting dinosaurs,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, next thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it boosts their numbers. You might come back and try

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<v Speaker 1>it more. The images that you see will not have

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<v Speaker 1>will not be shared with the public. They're just on

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<v Speaker 1>your feed for you to see. So you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to see like your grandma's image on your feed in

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<v Speaker 1>AI unless she posts it. But anyway, just beware. Just

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<v Speaker 1>giving you the heads up. That's what I do here.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what's happening. What's going to happen. Disney

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<v Speaker 1>Plus cracking down on paid sharing, sorry, cracking down on

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<v Speaker 1>password sharing. They call it a paid sharing program. So basically,

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<v Speaker 1>like I say on this show, the free ride is over.

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<v Speaker 1>Disney Plus used to be seven bucks a month all

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<v Speaker 1>the Disney movies you could ever watch till your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>would bleed out of your head. And it's now expanded

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<v Speaker 1>to I think it's I don't know how much it's

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<v Speaker 1>up to. It's a lot more than seven bucks a month.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm paying more. And you can't share. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be you could have your you could

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<v Speaker 1>have your account with so many people. They't they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even care. But now you can't share it. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got options. If you want to share your account outside

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<v Speaker 1>your house, you can add one extra person for seven

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<v Speaker 1>to ten dollars a month, and non household members can

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<v Speaker 1>also transfer their profile if.

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<v Speaker 2>They already have one, to their own.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're away from your house, like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to watch your on vacation, you're probably gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a message that says, hey, hold up, we gotta verify

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<v Speaker 1>this as you. So we're gonna send you a text

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<v Speaker 1>message or an email with a code and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, yeah, that's me and pop in that code.

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<v Speaker 2>So that helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Like someone that let's say you live in California, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got your friend sharing your account in Minnesota. They try

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<v Speaker 1>to log in, they're gonna have to text you and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, can I get that code? And even

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<v Speaker 1>then Disney might not allow the log in to proceed

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<v Speaker 1>because they might sniff out the fact that all of

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<v Speaker 1>your connections are in California except for that one. And

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<v Speaker 1>unless that's a college kid, you know that's in your

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<v Speaker 1>family and your household, they're not going to allow it.

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<v Speaker 2>So just be aware. Free ride is over.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Kevin in Malibu. Beautiful place. Kevin, you're

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<v Speaker 1>on with Rich Rich.

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<v Speaker 7>Good afternoon. Good to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. What's up?

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<v Speaker 4>Rich?

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<v Speaker 7>I got a big problem here on our iMac in

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<v Speaker 7>a contacts program. Yeah, my information is starting to miss

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<v Speaker 7>going away. The contacts are missing and dressors are missing.

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<v Speaker 7>Notes are missing as simple as well. I use my

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<v Speaker 7>mother as an example. I had all her passwords lifted

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<v Speaker 7>in the notes. I see you there now is her

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<v Speaker 7>phone number?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's not good. Don't keep the passwords in the notes.

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<v Speaker 1>You've talked about this on the show Highly Insecure.

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<v Speaker 4>So well that's the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for another day.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, use a password manager iOS eighteen passwords built in.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you using? Where are these kept normally? Are

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<v Speaker 1>they kept in iCloud? Are they kept in Gmail? Where

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<v Speaker 1>are these kept?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, what I'm concerned with is the contact app on

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<v Speaker 7>my iMac. I'm running high Sierra. I called the Apple

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<v Speaker 7>and we looked into it and I told him this

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<v Speaker 7>was missing. He looked at my screen and we put

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<v Speaker 7>in the time machine and went back and in June

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<v Speaker 7>I had all the information on time machine. But now

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<v Speaker 7>in September on the actual app it's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And again, how are you sinking these? Are these

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<v Speaker 1>stored in eye cloud?

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<v Speaker 7>This is just on the iMac, but yes, it is

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<v Speaker 7>connected to i cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I would recommend is going to icloudicloud dot

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<v Speaker 1>com seeing if the contacts are in there, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best way. But again you've got to go to

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<v Speaker 1>that time machine backup and download them and then re

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<v Speaker 1>upload them to this app, and you got to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out why they're actually going away every time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically on this show, I like to keep things light, fun, interesting, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>always and helpful. And we are seeing a movement here

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<v Speaker 1>in the US where people are realizing and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this is serious conversation. People are realizing that some of

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<v Speaker 1>this tech is not always the best for us and

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone, especially when it comes to teenagers and even adults.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this stuff affects people in various ways. Joining

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<v Speaker 1>me now is Sam Chapman is founder of Parent Collective,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is an organization that is working to bring

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<v Speaker 1>awareness to things like the dangers of social media. Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for joining me today. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having me so give me the background. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>had a tragedy in your family and I would like

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<v Speaker 1>you to tell me about that, and this is why

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<v Speaker 1>we came to this place to talk.

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<v Speaker 6>Huh.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, Well, I'm sort of the cautionary tale. Three and

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<v Speaker 13>a half years ago, we were on lockdown and we

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<v Speaker 13>thought our children were in the safest place possible in

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<v Speaker 13>our home. But it turns out one of the most

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<v Speaker 13>dangerous items you can give your kids our cell phone

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<v Speaker 13>or laptop, and a dealer on Snapchat, driven by their algorithms,

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<v Speaker 13>found our son by networking through his school. Other schoolmates

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<v Speaker 13>had the quick ad feature on and that as a

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<v Speaker 13>drug dealer to network with everyone they're connected to.

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<v Speaker 14>A colorful drug menu was.

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<v Speaker 13>Offered something free to our son because what was being

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<v Speaker 13>offered is addictive if it doesn't kill you, and addictive

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<v Speaker 13>for life. So lethal dose of fentanyl was delivered to

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<v Speaker 13>our home like a pizza after we were asleep, and

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<v Speaker 13>we found our son dead on the floor, tried to

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<v Speaker 13>resuscitate him and failed. The EMT showed up and tried,

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<v Speaker 13>and then the coroners came and we told the police,

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<v Speaker 13>let's contact Snapchat and find out about this dealer.

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<v Speaker 14>See what the profile says.

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<v Speaker 13>And we were in Santa Monica at the time, which

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<v Speaker 13>is actually where snap Inc. Is located, and the police

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<v Speaker 13>told us that they don't bother calling, that they don't help.

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<v Speaker 14>Snap Inc. Doesn't help in these cases.

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<v Speaker 13>In fact, we found out later through the DEEA that

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<v Speaker 13>snapped chat users were being notified when law enforcement was

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<v Speaker 13>looking into their profiles, so in a way, they were

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<v Speaker 13>collaborating with these people. And to this day, Snapchat is

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<v Speaker 13>an active drug market. My wife likes to say that

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<v Speaker 13>if you put your kid on social media, it's like

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<v Speaker 13>dropping him off in the most dangerous drug filled neighborhood

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<v Speaker 13>and hoping they do well for themselves.

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<v Speaker 14>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sorry to hear that, and I'm glad you're

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<v Speaker 1>here to share what you've learned in this situation and

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<v Speaker 1>you've been working on Now I know you're working on

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<v Speaker 1>something called Sammy's Law.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the status of that.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, Sammy's Law right now is in the House of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 13>It's HR five seven seven eight, and we're hoping to

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<v Speaker 13>get it passed in the lame duck session coming up.

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<v Speaker 14>It's gone pretty far.

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<v Speaker 13>It's gone to committee and we've got a bipartisan group

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<v Speaker 13>of sponsors and sponsors. It would require third party safety

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<v Speaker 13>software on any social media or a gaming platform with children.

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<v Speaker 13>And this technology exists today. It stops seventeen school shootings,

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<v Speaker 13>called the police over a thousand times when there was

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<v Speaker 13>imminent harm, and given warnings to parents over a million

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<v Speaker 13>times when something dangerous or illegal happened on their children's devices. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 13>on most of the platforms where our children are frequenting,

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<v Speaker 13>they don't allow it, like TikTok, Snapchat, Discord, the gaming

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<v Speaker 13>platform and the instant messaging platforms of meta. So the

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<v Speaker 13>reason is because those companies get rewarded by the stock

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<v Speaker 13>market when they announce the number of users every quarter,

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<v Speaker 13>and if they do something that would limit the number

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<v Speaker 13>of users, including kicking drug dealers off, their stock price

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<v Speaker 13>would take a hit. And for some of these companies,

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<v Speaker 13>like Snap Inc. They've never made a nickel in their

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<v Speaker 13>entire existence. The only income they've ever reported is from

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<v Speaker 13>the money that Wall Street has given them, the interest

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<v Speaker 13>on the money. So stock prices everything to them. User

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<v Speaker 13>health is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk for a minute about this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>talking to your kids. How do you think parents should

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<v Speaker 1>start a conversation? Were you blindsided by this? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that you can give parents some ideas

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<v Speaker 1>on how to like make sure that something like this

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen in their home.

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<v Speaker 13>So until the law has changed, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 13>very hard to stop it. Snapchat, for instance, exists because

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<v Speaker 13>the snaps disappear, and so unless you're literally looking over

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<v Speaker 13>your child's shoulder if they're on Snapchat, you can't monitor

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<v Speaker 13>it without the third party safety software. After our Sun died,

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<v Speaker 13>I asked their CEO to put that technology on his platform,

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<v Speaker 13>and he refused because they keep their data private because

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<v Speaker 13>they are selling it to advertisers to target advertising and

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<v Speaker 13>get more money for it, and they didn't want it

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<v Speaker 13>cycling through another company. Sammy's Law forbids the third party

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<v Speaker 13>safety software provider from using the information for commercial purposes.

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<v Speaker 13>It's only for safety purposes, and you're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 13>do things under the bill. You're not allowed to do

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<v Speaker 13>things like out LGBTQ plus kids. You're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 13>out or give notices to parents about reproductive choices like

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<v Speaker 13>abortion or birth control. It's really there to guard against

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<v Speaker 13>drug dealing to your child, or firearms sales, or human

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<v Speaker 13>trafficking which is going on a sexploitation, which is when

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<v Speaker 13>someone gets your kids to send a nude pick to

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<v Speaker 13>them by sending one to your child and then they

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<v Speaker 13>blackmail the child with the picture, threatening to tell the parents.

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<v Speaker 14>Or the teacher or their schoolmates.

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<v Speaker 13>And believe it or not, this is happening more often

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<v Speaker 13>to young boys than to young girls, which is a surprise.

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<v Speaker 13>Sammy's law also would be active on the largest gaming platforms,

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<v Speaker 13>and those are particularly dangerous because your children are playing

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<v Speaker 13>with adults and they don't even know it, and they

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<v Speaker 13>think it's one of their best friends. And the adult

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<v Speaker 13>may be playing with your kid for months before they

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<v Speaker 13>set the hook and try and do some harm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know my kids are.

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<v Speaker 1>They're always asking me for something like Discord or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because all these games, you know, they try

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<v Speaker 1>to have some some precautions built in, right, like filters

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. But the smart people that are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to take advantage, they're always telling your kids to Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start this conversation on Discord, or let's sign up

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<v Speaker 1>on this server, let's use this chatting app.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the whole point is to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of that chat system that they have built into

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<v Speaker 1>some of these gaming services like the Roadblocks of the

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<v Speaker 1>World and things like that, because they know that it's

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<v Speaker 1>limited in what they can get away with in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so rich.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so that's exactly it, and that's why we need

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<v Speaker 13>a law. We need all of them to protect at once,

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<v Speaker 13>so that they don't give up competitive advantage to the

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<v Speaker 13>other platforms or allow the kids to just switch from

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<v Speaker 13>one platform to the other. It's why the one off

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<v Speaker 13>safety features that they announce aren't effective, number one, because

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<v Speaker 13>they're mostly pr games, and when they are effective, they

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<v Speaker 13>just drive the kids to another platform. There was a

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<v Speaker 13>congressional hearing coming up, and you may have heard Instagram

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<v Speaker 13>decided to change the way they function the day before

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<v Speaker 13>that hearing. And that's happened at all the hearings that

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<v Speaker 13>we parents have gone to. So they put the default

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<v Speaker 13>settings on private for kids, but any kids how to

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<v Speaker 13>change those default settings in a second, and it really

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<v Speaker 13>wasn't a change at all.

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<v Speaker 14>It was a PR stunt.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think about any of the tools

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<v Speaker 1>or apps that are available now? Is there anything that

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<v Speaker 1>you think parents can do in the meantime? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the law is obviously something that would you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a long time to happen, if it

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<v Speaker 1>ever happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you think there's anything parents can do in

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<v Speaker 2>the meantime.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 13>The first thing is I advise, as sort of a

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<v Speaker 13>quid pro quo for giving them these devices, that you

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<v Speaker 13>require all of the user names and passwords for the

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<v Speaker 13>devices and the software that they're using. And that way,

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<v Speaker 13>in an emergency you can check or if you have

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<v Speaker 13>a problem kid, you can spot check. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 13>on Snapchat, the snaps disappear, so there's nothing to check.

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<v Speaker 13>Of all the platforms, I would say that Google has

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<v Speaker 13>the safest ones. They have the most easy to operate

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<v Speaker 13>parent device controls.

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<v Speaker 14>They don't allow a lot.

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<v Speaker 13>Of the curse words and the sexuality and the things

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<v Speaker 13>that can be found on the other platforms. So I

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<v Speaker 13>would just say that YouTube is the safest of them.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, Google seems to.

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<v Speaker 13>Take this very seriously. Nothing is perfect. The most important

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<v Speaker 13>thing is the longer you can keep them off of

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<v Speaker 13>the platforms, the better. The longer you can go without

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<v Speaker 13>giving your kid social media, the better. Bark has got

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<v Speaker 13>the third party software that I was talking about. Their

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<v Speaker 13>site is Bark dot us. We have no commercial relationship

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<v Speaker 13>with them. They also make a safe phone. So if

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<v Speaker 13>your kid's bugging you for a phone, depending on what

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<v Speaker 13>age you permit that if you buy one of these

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<v Speaker 13>safe Bark phones, you'll be buying yourself an extra year

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<v Speaker 13>or two.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we're gonna leave it there, Sam, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Sam Chapman from the Parent Collective the Web.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a website or how can people find

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<v Speaker 1>more information?

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<v Speaker 14>Yesparentcollective dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Sam Chapman, thanks so much for sharing your story

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<v Speaker 1>and sharing those tips.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate it. Thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 2>me today.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you rich All right, coming up, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>more rich on tech right here and get into some

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<v Speaker 1>of your emails and things that you sent me throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the week.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology. The website for the show

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech dot TV. So Adobe already forecasting a

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<v Speaker 1>record breaking twenty twenty four holiday shopping season.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all online. Total shopping spending.

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<v Speaker 1>Expected to reach two hundred and forty billion, up eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent over last year. They're expecting major discounts up to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percent off across a lot of categories. Best days

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<v Speaker 1>for discount Thanksgiving days. People shop on Thanksgiving Day. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess so toys, appliances, furniture, and sporting goods. Best day

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<v Speaker 1>to score those deals. Black Friday best day for TV deals.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Computers Saturday after Black Friday best day for computer deals.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're looking for electronics and apparel, the best

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<v Speaker 1>day is Cyber Monday. Some of the trends social media

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<v Speaker 1>influencers driving sales. Yep, that makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the top sellers bluey toys, PlayStation, iPhone, and

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<v Speaker 1>various video games. I think you could read that like

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<v Speaker 1>any year. It's like always the same video games, iPhones

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<v Speaker 1>and toys and This is interesting. This year, AI tools

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<v Speaker 1>gaining traction, so people are using them for research and

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<v Speaker 1>also recommendations.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will agree to that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my kid's birthday coming up, and my wife and

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<v Speaker 1>I were trying to figure out what to get them.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, let's ask AI. And I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>We got the most thorough list of ideas I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen in my entire life. No website visit necessary, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's worried to some of these websites that you

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<v Speaker 1>know you do affiliate links and research and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just go to AI and you find all the

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<v Speaker 1>information you need succinctly and easily.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get to the feedback.

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<v Speaker 1>These are your emails, comments, questions that you write in

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<v Speaker 1>at the website. Rich on tech dot tv hit Contact.

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<v Speaker 1>Christian from Cypress writes in, I have a mother in

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<v Speaker 1>law who is in her late seventies and a widow.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a partial grasp of modern tech, but luckily

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<v Speaker 1>she checks in with me for most of the help.

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<v Speaker 1>She was watching Amazon Prime via her Apple TV one day.

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<v Speaker 1>The movie she was watching paused and a message came

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<v Speaker 1>up on the screen that said her account was locked

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<v Speaker 1>due to payment, and she needed to call the number

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen to unlock and continue watching. She then

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<v Speaker 1>proceeded to call and was supposedly speaking with Amazon to

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<v Speaker 1>clear it up, but you guess what happened. After getting

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<v Speaker 1>contacted by her bank Wells Fargo fraud department, over ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars went missing. She realized that the whole exchange

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<v Speaker 1>was a scam and she was swindled out of the money. Afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>she took steps to fix the problem, changing her account

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<v Speaker 1>number and passwords. She even contacted Amazon, who never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of this scam, were thankful for her telling them police

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<v Speaker 1>report was filled out and we really want this message

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<v Speaker 1>to go out to your audience. Rich I know you

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<v Speaker 1>have a vast audience of citizens who need to know

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<v Speaker 1>this new and elaborate scam. We hope you can speak

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<v Speaker 1>to it and share this turmoil. So this is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really curious how this happened. Because Apple TV is

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<v Speaker 1>very secure Amazon Prime, I can't imagine a message coming

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<v Speaker 1>up during a movie. So I'm really curious how this happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And it may be that things were a little confused.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the message popped up somewhere else while she was

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<v Speaker 1>watching the movie like on her phone. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>know there is some scams that are similar, Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>one going around on Roku where it would say your

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<v Speaker 1>account was locked and you have to call this number

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<v Speaker 1>to unlock or whatever, and a lot of people fell

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<v Speaker 1>for that. So just be aware anytime you see a

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<v Speaker 1>message like this and you're calling someone you're the outbound call,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they're the inbound call, it's a scam. Ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine point nine percent of the time, Roku's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to stop your system from working. They're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>literally send you an email say hey, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>update your credit card.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it, not going to call you for your bank

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<v Speaker 2>account information.

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<v Speaker 1>David writes in I think you should stress the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of safekeeping recovery codes for major accounts like Microsoft and

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<v Speaker 1>your password authenticators. Sometimes people forget the backup of security

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<v Speaker 1>apps doesn't include the underlying security recovery codes, and replacing

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<v Speaker 1>them becomes a pain when something when one does something

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<v Speaker 1>stupid like wiping an old iPhone when you trade it

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<v Speaker 1>in for a new one. I am looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>passwordless security becoming the norm. Yes, if you get those

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<v Speaker 1>recovery codes when you're setting up an account, especially an

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<v Speaker 1>important account. Save those codes that will keep you from

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<v Speaker 1>getting a major headache later trying to get access to

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<v Speaker 1>that account later on in life. Save those codes, put

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<v Speaker 1>them in somewhere very safe. Laurel writes in about the

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone reports last or a couple in the past couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have an iPhone if someone gave me one

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<v Speaker 1>for free. It would drive me nuts trying to see

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<v Speaker 1>all that information on those tiny screens. I noticed you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mention how much they cost.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Well, I think I did, But.

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<v Speaker 1>You know people have gotten used to those tiny screens, Laurel,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see here, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 1>When listening to you broadcasting from Las Vegas, I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself wondering, how's that set up? It sure doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like you're in a hotel room. Maybe you are. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you manage the phone calls, the music? I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>a peek behind the curtain. Oh, great and powerful tech dude,

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa on the road to SoCal from Surprise, Arizona, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>How amazing it is. I mean, it's it's a system

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<v Speaker 2>that the engineers that are much smarter than me.

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<v Speaker 1>Set up, and I bring it around in a suitcase

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow we connect in it.

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<v Speaker 2>The microphone said, sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>The system connects to our systems here, and it's quite impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>I could do that show from anywhere, and you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if I didn't mention that I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas. So it's it's incredible, a little more complicated

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<v Speaker 1>than doing TV from other places, but TV have live shots,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Same thing. Jim writes in Hey, Rich, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to become an honorary Jew so you can pronounce

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<v Speaker 1>the Yiddish words correctly. Chutzpa is pronounced hutspa.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I get that right? Hutspa.

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<v Speaker 1>It means having a lot of nerve or a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of confidence, or if you're pronouncing it with the Yiddish accent,

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<v Speaker 1>you could do ch like a soft k, like the

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<v Speaker 1>way some people pronounce hankkah, which, of course most people

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<v Speaker 1>pronounce that hankah. Okay, I'm reading this all wrong anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Yiddish lesson for today. I don't actually speak Yiddish,

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<v Speaker 1>but my late mother did take care Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Jim for the Yiddish lesson. I will do.

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<v Speaker 2>They have dual lingo for Yiddish.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, Shirley writes in, Hey, Rich, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for all of you, Thank you for all the tech

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<v Speaker 1>info you TV viewers and radio listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Best to you, Shirley. Thank you, Shirley.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good way to end the show here, if

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<v Speaker 1>you could believe it. And every week I say this,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe how fast this show goes. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want three hours of your life to go really fast,

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<v Speaker 1>get a radio show, because I'm telling you, it just

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<v Speaker 1>flies by. I have so much more to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>so many more things to go through, so many emails, comments, questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just not enough time in the day to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Thank you so much. You can follow me

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. I'm at rich on tech on Instagram, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>and x You can find everything I mentioned on my

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<v Speaker 1>website rich on tech dot TV. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. There are so many ways you can spend

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<v Speaker 1>your time. I really do appreciate you spending it right

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<v Speaker 1>here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes this show

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<v Speaker 1>possible today, Adam, thanks for filling in Kim over on phones,

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<v Speaker 1>my family who puts up with me testing all this

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<v Speaker 1>tech all day long, and most importantly you thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is rich Demiro. I will talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>real soon