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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. So this week, U meta man,

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Speaker 1: They cost anywhere from like a thousand to ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 6: into the real world. And some of that's already available now.

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Speaker 6: When you see mixed reality headsets like the vision pro

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Speaker 6: requests three, they use cameras that show you the real

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Speaker 6: world and then layer it. What these glasses do and

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Speaker 6: AR headsets do is they actually have transparent lenses, so

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Speaker 6: you are seeing the real world, but it's giving this

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Speaker 6: ghostly layer of what you know when Bark Zuckerberg called holograms,

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Speaker 6: but they're basically that you know, three D display tech,

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Speaker 6: but without blocking out the real world.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's interesting because you know Zuckerberg used this

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Speaker 1: holographic description Snapchat. I don't believe said the word holographic.

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Speaker 1: I was at that event and I tried those on

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Speaker 1: and you did as well. What did you think the

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Speaker 1: difference was?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: Was the you know who did this better?

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Speaker 6: Totally similar concept. The difference is in a lot of

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Speaker 6: the nuances, you know, Snapchat viewing area is much narrower.

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Speaker 6: You probably know it is like you can see areas

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Speaker 6: of your viewing area where the three D effects you know,

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Speaker 6: kind of cut off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a postage stamp in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the screen. Like it's like postage stamp in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the screen. Imagine that's where the overlay area is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like tall but very narrow. Med is is much better.

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Speaker 6: You did not see those edges, although also Metta had

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Speaker 6: demos that you know, cleverly show things that are you know,

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Speaker 6: in your area and not trying to overlap, almost like

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Speaker 6: the original Apple watchspases. You know that we're designed well,

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Speaker 6: you don't see the border as much, but you know

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Speaker 6: still it's wide seventy degrees, which.

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Speaker 4: Is what it is.

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Speaker 6: Is actually less wide than what you have on a

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Speaker 6: VR headset, which already feels a bit like a scuba mask.

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Speaker 6: So it's not that it's your entire area, but it's

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Speaker 6: close enough that you don't see that cutoff point. And

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Speaker 6: the resolution was actually a little bit lower than stuff

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Speaker 6: I've been used to, and Meta admitted that, you know,

476
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Speaker 6: it was totally fine for icons and videos and stuff,

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Speaker 6: but nowhere near where you'd want to watch a movie

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Speaker 6: in it, you know, like something like Apple Vision pro

479
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Speaker 6: is like a cinema quality experience. This is not that

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Speaker 6: it's not even aiming to be. Well, it is aiming

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Speaker 6: to be, but it's not there yet. They're talking about

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Speaker 6: having to improve the resolution, but it.

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Speaker 2: Will get there.

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Speaker 1: And I think at this point, and you can you

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Speaker 1: can tell me what you think, but I think we've

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Speaker 1: reached the tipping point now where, like I said, we

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Speaker 1: have two major companies working on this and getting it

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Speaker 1: to a really great demo in a small kind of

489
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Speaker 1: form factor. The technology is just going to continue to evolve.

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Speaker 1: So I do believe that we will be walking down

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Speaker 1: the street with sunglasses or glasses that do have the

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Speaker 1: heads up display that tell us you know, who's calling

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Speaker 1: in the corner, the music that you're playing, what you're

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Speaker 1: listening to, identify that plant that you're looking at.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's going to be a reality.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. I think it's only a matter

497
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Speaker 6: of whether you choose to have it personally, kind of

498
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Speaker 6: like when smart watches came out, some people wanted them,

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Speaker 6: some people didn't. Or the battery life, you know, the

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Speaker 6: battery life and the power and how you connect to

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Speaker 6: it met is using this processor puck kind of like

502
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Speaker 6: a little computer. It's kind of like a stand in

503
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Speaker 6: for a phone, you know, but phones, to me, that's

504
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Speaker 6: what it is. Phones right now, you know, already have

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Speaker 6: lower battery life than many would like. And you want

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Speaker 6: to think about connecting something like glasses, but there's no protocol,

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Speaker 6: there's no system for that yet from either Google or Apple.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like we're seeing these glasses trying to

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Speaker 6: figure it out before maybe in the future we have

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Speaker 6: phones that are more powerful that are able to handle that.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, but I think it's I've seen it for years,

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Speaker 6: so I kind of I've always believed that it's possible.

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Speaker 6: But you're right, we're seeing now that it is happening,

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Speaker 6: and I think that's that's a real turning point where

515
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Speaker 6: they're putting it together. They're showing all the pieces and yeah,

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Speaker 6: we didn't think we'd wear wireless eyebuds, all of us,

517
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Speaker 6: and we didn't think we'd wear smart watches and that

518
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Speaker 6: happened too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is interesting because you mentioned the protocol, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course Google, Android, Apple, they would love to have

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Speaker 1: a way for these glasses to interact so they can

522
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Speaker 1: run all the processing on the phone and the glasses

523
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Speaker 1: are just sort of a display. But of course these

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Speaker 1: tech companies like Meta especially would love to have this takeover,

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Speaker 1: you know, independent of something like iOS or Android, because

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Speaker 1: that would be a win for them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I see a similarity there between Snap Spectacles

528
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Speaker 6: and Meta Orion and that they're both companies will you

529
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Speaker 6: know that have phone apps that have that don't have

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Speaker 6: their own over the OS ecosystem, but are trying to

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Speaker 6: find ways to drive stuff. Met is a lot bigger

532
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Speaker 6: and has a lot more pieces to that puzzle. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's exactly it. And I feel like that still needs

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Speaker 6: to be solved, like you know, use vision pro or

535
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Speaker 6: questadsets and things at home because they can't be phones.

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Speaker 6: They can't go around outside for a variety of reasons.

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Speaker 6: And Orian the demo was indoors. It was all on

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Speaker 6: a self contained network. But in the future, when you

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Speaker 6: wear it around, it will have to be like a phone,

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Speaker 6: or it'll have to learn how to navigate that same

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Speaker 6: you know landscape. Qualcomm's been trying to solve those things too,

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Speaker 6: you know, in the weeds lurking around through all of

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Speaker 6: these products, and that's been a sign of you know

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Speaker 6: those aspirations.

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Speaker 2: All right, Scott, we're gonna leave it there.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me today, Scott Stein at cnet.

547
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Speaker 1: He's been covering VR and AR for a while now,

548
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Speaker 1: so if you want to read up on all that stuff,

549
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Speaker 1: jets Scott on social media. Scott, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me today. Hey, thank you, rich all right, great day.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, little little trivia, me and Scott.

552
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Speaker 1: I think we went to the same magic store growing up, right,

553
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Speaker 1: the mecha magic?

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Speaker 6: Did you I know about the one I did go?

555
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Speaker 6: Where was mecha magic?

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Speaker 1: Mecha Magic? I think it was like in like somewhere

557
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Speaker 1: in New Jersey. I feel like that's for anyway it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a while ago, amazing. I went to Ron

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Speaker 1: Joe's and I went to Tannin's. But now I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to look out for look up, to look up

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Speaker 1: for yours, look up Mecha Magic. I think it was

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Speaker 1: in Bloomfield, New Jersey. I think anyway here and oh

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Speaker 1: my god.

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Speaker 6: Wish it was still open. Oh no, I never went there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a shame.

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Speaker 6: I wish I had.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Scott, appreciate it all right.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. I knew Scott

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Speaker 1: was into magic. I had a feeling because he's in

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Speaker 1: New Jersey that we went to the same but I

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Speaker 1: guess not eighty eight rich one on one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 2: More of your calls right up next, Let's go to

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Speaker 2: Diana in Torrance. What can I help you with?

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much for taking my call. And I

577
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Speaker 8: had called in a while back to your show with

578
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Speaker 8: a question about how to log in remotely and screenshare

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Speaker 8: from my Max to other computers, and you helped me

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Speaker 8: with a great suggestion, which was team viewer.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 1: We'll leave the call right there. Thank you, No says kidding.

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Speaker 1: Now you're having a problem with it.

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Speaker 8: Well, it worked, you know. I figured it out without

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Speaker 8: too much trouble, and I got it working, and it

586
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Speaker 8: was working great for a while, like maybe a month

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Speaker 8: or two, and then all of a sudden, one day

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Speaker 8: it started just logging me out after five minutes with

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Speaker 8: seemingly no explanation, and so I couldn't see I thought

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Speaker 8: it just became like glitchy or flaky. And then I

591
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Speaker 8: have different devices, different computers and iPhones, and iPads that

592
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Speaker 8: I used to do this, and then I caught, like

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Speaker 8: on one of the devices a message that said something like, oh,

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Speaker 8: you're using too much, which I'm not. I'm just using

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Speaker 8: it either sometimes they do some streaming or else I'm

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Speaker 8: helping my parents troubleshoot their computers. And so since I'm

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Speaker 8: trying to use the free license, I don't even begin

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Speaker 8: to know how to get help for this, or how

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Speaker 8: to how or why my account got flagged like this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, so the way that Team Viewer works is it is,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of a freemium thing, so they

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Speaker 1: do have you know, their main business is obviously selling

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Speaker 1: this to people who pay them, right, and that's how

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Speaker 1: they make it and survive and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: But then they give away a free version for personal use.

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Speaker 1: Now I think, you know what happens is there must

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Speaker 1: be a limit on the free use because they don't

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Speaker 1: want people that run companies using this for their company,

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Speaker 1: because then why pay for it. Ever, so I think

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Speaker 1: that they must have some sort of algorithm in place

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Speaker 1: that tells them, Okay, we see this person logged in

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Speaker 1: every day or every you know whatever, and we're using

614
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Speaker 1: it this much and so we will flag those accounts.

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Speaker 1: It's probably an automatic thing that happens just to kind

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Speaker 1: of protect the business model. So you could try to

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the service is like through them,

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Speaker 1: to get in touch with them and say, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm using this personally.

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Speaker 2: How many hours a day are you using this? You think.

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Speaker 8: It was well, not not a regular not consistently in

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Speaker 8: a long period of time every day, but some on

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Speaker 8: some days I might use it for quite a while,

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Speaker 8: and then it might be you know, days in between

625
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Speaker 8: when I use it, So it's not it was not

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Speaker 8: on a consistent basis or anything.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but I but I did have.

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Speaker 8: Like various different devices I would try to connect to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, so I think I think what's

630
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Speaker 1: happening is you're just flagging their systems. So you can

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Speaker 1: try to get in touch with them and appeal and say, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: you know, i'm personal I'm just using this to do

633
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Speaker 1: this and whatever. The other thing you can do is

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Speaker 1: try a different program, which is uh, it's see. The

635
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Speaker 1: problem is, I think it's a little bit more complicated

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Speaker 1: to set this up. There's one called rust Desk, and

637
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Speaker 1: it is completely free, but I think that this is

638
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Speaker 1: a little bit more complicated because it looks like you

639
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Speaker 1: have to self host with like your own server, which

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Speaker 1: I think is is way too complicated for you know,

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Speaker 1: the average person set up. I think that's what you know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the problem with all of these systems is

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Speaker 1: that there needs to be like a conduit for it

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Speaker 1: to go through. And I think that that, you know,

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Speaker 1: there is a cost involved for this company anytime you're

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Speaker 1: on it. So the other thing you can do is,

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Speaker 1: depending on what you're trying to do, there is Chrome

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Speaker 1: Remote Desktop, and so that one is a lot easier.

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Speaker 1: It's basically a very quick, easy installation, So I think

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Speaker 1: that might be a good place to just check and

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Speaker 1: see if that works for you. Because this is free

652
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Speaker 1: and it basically lets you access your computer, you know,

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Speaker 1: through a phone, a tablet or another computer. So that

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Speaker 1: is another thing that I would look at. And it's

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Speaker 1: pretty simple. It works on iOS or Android, and it's

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Speaker 1: like very very simple. That's called Google Chrome Remote Desktop

657
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Speaker 1: and there are no I don't even think they have

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Speaker 1: a paid plan for that one. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: completely free. So I would check those Diana and otherwise,

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Speaker 1: So again start with appealing like go on the customer

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Speaker 1: service with Team Viewer. See what they say, like, hey, okay,

662
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Speaker 1: your account got flag. Explain to them if you can

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Speaker 1: do it might be like a ticket like an email system.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm guessing. And then if that doesn't work,

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Speaker 1: you can't really get that to work again.

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Speaker 2: The alternative is rust desk.

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Speaker 1: You might also want to pay, like there's so many

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Speaker 1: companies like go to my PC and all these other

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Speaker 1: companies that you know, you can pay for any desk.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's many many paid services here. You might

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Speaker 1: even pay for Team Viewer if you feel like it's

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Speaker 1: worth it. But those are some of the big ones.

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Speaker 1: But Chrome Remote Desktop is another alternative that you may

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Speaker 1: want to look into. Thanks for call Diana, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: In torrents today, let's see oh lgtvs ads on the screen.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we cannot escape advertising. It's everywhere on

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Speaker 1: our smart devices. So now LG Premium O led TVs

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Speaker 1: are showing people ads screen full screen screensaver ads on

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Speaker 1: their smart TVs. The ad appears before the typical screen

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Speaker 1: saver starts. The ads are for various things, could be

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Speaker 1: LG zoned services, other partners You could disable this by

682
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Speaker 1: going into the TV settings. There's a little switch that

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Speaker 1: says don't show screensaver ads, but we are seeing these

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Speaker 1: everywhere Amazon, Google, Roku, Apple TV is really the last

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Speaker 1: place where there's not a lot of home screen ads.

686
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Speaker 2: Worst comes to worst. You can also just pull your TV.

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Speaker 1: Out from the internet if you don't need that smart

688
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Speaker 1: TV functionality, you know, turn off that Wi Fi or

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Speaker 1: take it out of the internet. Eighty eight rich one

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Speaker 1: o one eight eight eight seven four two four one

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Speaker 1: zero one. We're Rich on Tech right after this. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out

693
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Speaker 1: with you, talking technology.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: Phone lines are open at eight eight eight rich one

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Speaker 1: oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two

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Speaker 1: four one zero one. Coming up in the show, We've

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Speaker 1: still got some great guests. We're gonna talk about flying

699
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Speaker 1: air taxis. I don't know if you watched The Jetsons

700
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Speaker 1: like I did when I was a kid, but I've

701
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Speaker 1: dreamed of a flying car of course, back to the future.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who doesn't want this, Well, probably a lot

703
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: of people, but I do. I mean, how many times

704
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Speaker 1: have I been stuck in traffic and I'm just like

705
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Speaker 1: I would love to fly over this. Uh, that reality

706
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: is actually getting closer than you might think. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk to a guest about that. Uh, and later

708
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Speaker 1: in the show, we're gonna talk about social media and

709
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Speaker 1: kids and all the issues that they have with that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm always testing something, by the way, this

711
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Speaker 1: week a couple of new products. It's honey, I you know,

712
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Speaker 1: I do my job at KTLA, so I'm a tech

713
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Speaker 1: reporter here in Los Angeles on the rate on the

714
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Speaker 1: TV station, and then when I go home, it's like

715
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Speaker 1: all these boxes to open and like, you know, test

716
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Speaker 1: out these products, set them up this and that. So

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Speaker 1: this week a couple of products I was testing. First off,

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Speaker 1: the new Google TV streaming box. So you know you've

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Speaker 1: got streaming boxes from Roku, You've got Apple TV, You've

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Speaker 1: got Fire TV is that it Roku, Fire TV, Apple TV,

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Speaker 1: and then you've got all the smart TVs. But then

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Speaker 1: Google used to have like a Chrome cast and the

723
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Speaker 1: streaming boxes or streaming dongles. Now they've got like a

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Speaker 1: streaming box. It's a hundred bucks and it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: It looks just like Google TV. If you've been using that,

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Speaker 1: I know, my TV has Google TV built in, but

727
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Speaker 1: this is like in a box that's supposed to be

728
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Speaker 1: a little bit more powerful, a little bit better. But

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Speaker 1: I thought was so funny when I set this thing up. Well,

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Speaker 1: number one, there's no HDMI cable. First thing I noticed,

731
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Speaker 1: I'm like, where's the HMI cable. I can't connect this

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Speaker 1: thing to the TV. So I had to pull the

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Speaker 1: HDMI cable for my Apple TV, which is black, and

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Speaker 1: the the little Google TV is like a cream color,

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Speaker 1: so it just completely does not match. Like Google, you

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Speaker 1: should have included if you're gonna make a device that's

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Speaker 1: not like a standard color like, you should include the

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Speaker 1: HDMI cable. So people like me, I could see this

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Speaker 1: box and it like really bugs me that one of

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Speaker 1: the cables coming out of the back is black and

741
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Speaker 1: one is white, and so it's just like this weird

742
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Speaker 1: kind of like it needs to you know, it needs

743
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Speaker 1: to blend in anyway. But I'm not the only person

744
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Speaker 1: that noticed it didn't come with an HDMI cable. A

745
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Speaker 1: lot of people are commenting about that online. But the

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Speaker 1: thing that I thought was really interesting is that you

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Speaker 1: go through all this hassle of getting like a streamer,

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Speaker 1: like a streaming box, and then what do I find

749
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Speaker 1: on it? They've got this new thing called Google TV

750
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Speaker 1: free Play, and it's like one hundred and fifty channels

751
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Speaker 1: of like free stuff you can watch. But the best

752
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: part is that's nothing new. The best part is they've

753
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Speaker 1: made it so you can flip through the channels, just

754
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Speaker 1: like an old school TV. So we've come completely full

755
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Speaker 1: circle of you know how you sit in front of

756
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: your TV and you can't find anything to watch. You

757
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Speaker 1: go through all this hassle of getting like a streamer,

758
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Speaker 1: like a streaming box, and then what do I find

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Speaker 1: on it?

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Speaker 2: They've got this new thing called Google TV.

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Speaker 1: Free Play, and it's like one hundred and fifty channels

762
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: of like free stuff you can watch. But the best

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Speaker 1: part is that's nothing new. The best part is they've

764
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Speaker 1: made it so you can flip through the channels, just

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Speaker 1: like an old school TV. So we've come completely full

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Speaker 1: circle of you know how you sit in front of

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Speaker 1: your TV and you can't find anything to watch, and

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Speaker 1: you don't want to start stuff on Netflix because then

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Speaker 1: it goes into that little bar of like, oh you

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Speaker 1: just watch this, like continue watching You're like, no, I didn't,

771
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Speaker 1: I just just chose like to watch a trailer for that.

772
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Speaker 1: So sometimes you just want stuff playing in the background.

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Speaker 1: Just like old school TV, right when you got home,

774
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Speaker 1: used to just turn on the TV. It played stuff.

775
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Speaker 1: It just played forever, whether it was a news or

776
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, yeah see Adam knows. But with this streaming stuff,

777
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: you can't just come home and like turn on the TV.

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Speaker 1: You have to like use that brain power to like

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Speaker 1: select what do I want to watch? And you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna put like your Netflix show that you're binging on

781
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: in the background. You want something like news or sports

782
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: or whatever just like playing. And now anyway, so now

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Speaker 1: you can do that. So it's got all these channels

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Speaker 1: and I was flipping through and it was just so

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Speaker 1: cool because I was like, you can press up and

786
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: down on the remote and just flip through all these

787
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Speaker 1: they're streaming, they're not coming in through an antenna or cable.

788
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Speaker 1: They're just free. And so what did I land on?

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Speaker 1: Supermarket Sweep? I was watching a Supermarket Sweep from like

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many twenty years ago when was

791
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Speaker 1: that show on?

792
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: But as a kid, that show was so fun.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're running through that grocery store, pulling all

794
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Speaker 1: these I always wondered there must have been a rule

795
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Speaker 1: in that show where you couldn't just like sweep the

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Speaker 1: stuff off the shelf into your cart, like with a

797
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Speaker 1: big scoop of a hand, because people didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: They like pick stuff off the shelves and like put

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Speaker 1: it in the basket, So there must have been a

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Speaker 1: rule for that. But the thing is that these old

801
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: shows have like a new life because people just want

802
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: stuff on in the background, and so they've got like

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Speaker 1: channels that show like, you know, all the old you know,

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00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: late night TV shows, Johnny Carson. They have shows channels

805
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: that just show like crime dramas the whole time. So

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Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: That's called Google TV free Play. It's really I mean,

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Speaker 1: this box is fine. I think that the Google stuff

810
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: is really cool. Apparently two hundred and seventy million people

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Speaker 1: use Google TV every month. So if you're looking for

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Speaker 1: a new kind of like streaming streaming box that's a

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Speaker 1: little different from the Apple TV, the Roku, the fire TV,

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Speaker 1: this is a nice alternative.

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Speaker 2: Also.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I liked is it has a find

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Speaker 1: my Remote button on the back, so you lose the

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Speaker 1: remote and the seat cushions, you go up to the

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Speaker 1: actual streaming box.

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Speaker 2: Theer's a button on the back of it.

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Speaker 1: You press it and the remote makes a sound, which

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Speaker 1: you know, some of the other things do that as well,

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Speaker 1: but that's that's the other cool feature. I thought you

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Speaker 1: could also make screen art with AI. It's really good

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Speaker 1: at like finding movies and stuff with AI. So if

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Speaker 1: you want like a really cutting edge kind of like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, streaming system, I think Google's doing a

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Speaker 1: good job. The other thing I'm testing, we often will

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Speaker 1: get a cat as a foster, and so I said, look,

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Speaker 1: we usually get kittens that if like nor and they're

831
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Speaker 1: messy and they take over your whole house, and there's

832
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Speaker 1: usually like a couple of them, like two three kittens

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Speaker 1: that you're getting at a time. Well, this company, Nakasa

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Speaker 1: Nia Casa. I've always been fascinated with this idea because

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Speaker 1: I don't really want a cat, but I like the

836
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Speaker 1: idea of cats, and my kids love cats. But the

837
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Speaker 1: litter box is always like such an issue, right you

838
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: got because who's end up who ends up cleaning the

839
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Speaker 1: litter box?

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Speaker 3: Like me?

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Speaker 1: Whenever we have these you're really on with this uh

842
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: things today? Yes, Okay, Adam doesn't talk to me. He

843
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: only talks me through the ringing of that bell.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: So I've been I've had this thing to set up

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00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: for like a couple of months now, and I've been

847
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: waiting for the right opportunity to test out this self

848
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Speaker 1: cleaning litter box.

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Speaker 2: And maybe you've seen them.

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Speaker 1: They have some that like you put the litter in

851
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Speaker 1: and they rotate around to scoop out, you know, whatever

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00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: the cat does in there. This one actually kind of

853
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: sits flat, like an open which they say the cats

854
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: like better because they can see around the box when

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Speaker 1: they're going to the bathroom. And then as soon as

856
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: they're done, you know, it kind of feels the weight

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Speaker 1: of the cat jump in there, and a couple of

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Speaker 1: minutes later, it kind of turns upwards, almost like those

859
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Speaker 1: like rides at the carnival, like those boats, you know,

860
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Speaker 1: like go back and forth. It does that, and it

861
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Speaker 1: gets all the droppings like into this little catch area

862
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: like a little tray, and so you can go like

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Speaker 1: two weeks without cleaning the kitty.

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Speaker 2: Letter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see, I'm testing it, we'll see, But

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Speaker 1: already the cat used it once today and as soon

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Speaker 1: as the cat jumped out, the litter cleaned itself. You

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Speaker 1: could hear a little stuff like falling into the bottom.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty cool. Not cheap this one is.

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Speaker 1: It looks like it's currently on sale for about five

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00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. So that's probably what keeps most people from saying, oh,

872
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: this would be a great thing to have in my house.

873
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: But when you do that math over time, I mean,

874
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: this is like a this is like again the stuff

875
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: that we imagined right that would be in the future,

876
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: like your litter box would clean itself. We actually have

877
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: that now. But a lot of this stuff is just

878
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's so prohibitively expensive for most people that

879
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: they don't get it. But I do know people that have,

880
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: like I think the whisker is the other one, the

881
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: one that rotates, and people who have.

882
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: These things absolutely love them.

883
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: So anyway, the cat we got, by the way, is

884
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: an adult cat, and it was like a stray that

885
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: they found, and they're like, be very gentle with it.

886
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be you know, skittish and this and that.

887
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: This cat is like it's like a dog. It follows

888
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: you around the house and it just literally is just

889
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: like the happiest little cat I've ever seen. And by

890
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: the way, it's like small, it's like fully grown, but

891
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: it's small. So my entire family are cat people. They

892
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: we literally we have a Telegram family group chat, and

893
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the telegram messages are just my

894
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: family taking pictures of their cats doing stuff. And I'm like,

895
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: really anyway, and it's cute, but you know, you have

896
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: to be into that stuff. If you woke up and

897
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: you found that your Kespersky anti virus on your computer

898
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: was replaced with a new program called ultra AV, well

899
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: you're not alone.

900
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: All of a sudden.

901
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: Earlier this month, people found that this program just changed names.

902
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: The Kespersky uninstalled itself and installed this new program called

903
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: ultra AV, and people were like what they were concerned.

904
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: They were confused, as many people are in general, wondering

905
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: if this was malware. And sure enough, Ultra av purchased

906
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: the business from Kespersky. Because I don't if you remember,

907
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 1: we talked about this on the show a while back,

908
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: the US banned Kespersky because of its Russian origins. I

909
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: guess it's based over in Russia, and they said, no,

910
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: they can't have that on us.

911
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: Computers.

912
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw what happened with CrowdStrike, you know

913
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: where that was a mistake, and look how many computers

914
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: it took down. Imagine if a company wanted to take

915
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: down computers in the US. And you know, I'm not

916
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: saying that Kespersky is nefarious in any way, shape or form,

917
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: but if they wanted to be, they could because they're

918
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: on a lot of computers.

919
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: A lot of programs could do that.

920
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: So anyway, so this was purchased by a company called

921
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: Pango Group. They have VPN brands as well, and people

922
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: were like, well, you never told us you were going

923
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: to do this, and Pango.

924
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 2: Said, yeah, we did.

925
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: We notified you like September fifth, starting via email, in

926
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: app alerts, website notices, and of course what do you do.

927
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: You ignore all that stuff until you know this happens.

928
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: And they're like, wait a second. What So if you

929
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: have ultra av I can't vouch for it. I can't

930
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: tell you if it's good or bad. But if you

931
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: had a subscription with Kesperski, that's what happened, and your

932
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: subscription will follow over, so you will get charged by

933
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: this new company when your subscription is up.

934
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: What I personally would do is ditch it all together.

935
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: You know, let your.

936
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: Subscription go, like just cancel it and then you know,

937
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: let the let the subscription run out, and then you know,

938
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: most people say you can pretty much use the Windows

939
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: Defender built into Windows Microsoft Defender and that should be

940
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: just fine. As long as you keep that up to

941
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: date inactive, you should be okay. The bigger issue these

942
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: days is really phishing. I mean viruses in malware and ransomware.

943
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: Of course, have a backup of your computer, but the

944
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: main way people are tricked these days is really through

945
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: phishing emails, text messages. So that's what you need to

946
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: be on the lookout for to not get tricked. Eighty

947
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Speaker 1: eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven four

948
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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. When we come back,

949
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: I'll take some more of your calls, some of your emails,

950
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why Disney the Free Ride is over,

951
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: Disney Plus cracking down on password sharing. I'll explain how

952
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: they're doing it and if your college student will be

953
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: able to watch outside your household.

954
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: This is rich On Tech. Let's go to Robert in Alhambra. Robert,

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00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: you're on with.

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00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 9: Rich Hey, thanks you kicking to that call, Rich, I'm

957
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 9: looking for a new phone. I'd like something that can

958
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 9: open and close apps with the voice commands and make

959
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 9: phone calls.

960
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're you're interested in all the in the

961
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: voice command aspect.

962
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 9: Yes, I'm visually impairied.

963
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you have right now?

964
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 9: Sam sum?

965
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: Okay? And what don't you like about? It doesn't and

966
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: not have the features and.

967
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 9: The opening closing the apps is not very good.

968
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: Okay.

969
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you know the answer that I

970
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: have is going to be pretty stereotypical. But I think

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00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: the iPhone does a great job with the with the

972
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: accessibility features.

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00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: I really do. Have you looked into that?

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00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: No?

975
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 8: Really?

976
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I think that the They've got

977
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: a feature called like voiceover, which can read pretty much

978
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: anything on your screen. They've got Siri and you can

979
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: you can basically program this thing to do whatever you

980
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: need it to do. When it comes to accessibility, Like

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00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: if you go into the accessibility section of the iPhone,

982
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: there are just so many features.

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00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: Now.

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00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: I think the pixel is pretty good too. I think

985
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: Google is doing a good job. But I really think

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00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: that Apple is kind of like a leader in this area.

987
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking okay. So for vision, you said,

988
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: visually impaired vision's got. They've got voiceover, which will pretty

989
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: much read anything on your screen. They've also got live recognition,

990
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: so it will literally detect what you're pointing your phone at,

991
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: so it'll tell you like what you're you know, if

992
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: that's a door, if that's a you know, walkway, whatever

993
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, just there's so many options just

994
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: in this one voiceover area, speech, Braille recognition, audio commands,

995
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: rotor activities, typing, navigation style, navigate images, large cursor. I mean,

996
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: there's so many that's just voiceover.

997
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: Then you've got.

998
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: Zoom to make the screen a lot bigger display in

999
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: text size, and it's got I mean, Robert, I'm telling

1000
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: you the the options you have in here, I really

1001
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: think are gonna help you out motion. You can reduce

1002
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: motion spoken content, you can speak pretty much anything that's

1003
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: on the screen. Then you've got eye tracking that's a

1004
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: brand new feature in iOS eighteen, so you can actually,

1005
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: if your mobility impaired, you can actually use your eyes

1006
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: to control the screen without touching the screen. That is

1007
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: a feature that you know, people accessibility worlds have been

1008
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: talking about and working on for years and it's just

1009
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: now built into the iPhone. That's pretty amazing. There's hearing,

1010
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of sound recognition. So if you want

1011
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: your phone to tell you when you know there is

1012
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: a smoke alarm going off or some sort of other

1013
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: sound that it can recognize, it will tell you that

1014
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: with a visual notification on there. So I think that

1015
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: the iPhone is probably going to be the best way

1016
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: to go now the model number. If you're just using

1017
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: this for kind of day to day stuff, I don't

1018
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: think you necessarily need the iPhone sixteen. They do sell

1019
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: other versions of this phone right now, officially from Apple.

1020
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: You can get the iPhone SE, the iPhone fourteen, fifteen,

1021
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: and sixteen.

1022
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: So I would say, if you're just needing like a

1023
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: basic phone, the iPhone fourteen is going to be fine.

1024
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: It's a couple of years old, and it's going to be,

1025
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: you know, just a little bit cheaper than the current phone.

1026
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: Let's see how much are they selling that for. Uh,

1027
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be six hundred dollars for the iPhone fourteen.

1028
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: So if you want to, I wouldn't go with the

1029
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: iPhone SE right now. That's kind of the one that

1030
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: still has the home button on it. The problem with

1031
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: the iPhone se is that it's kind of aging out

1032
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: of the software updates, so it's not going to get

1033
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: a software update after probably not after this year, I'm guessing.

1034
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: So it's not going to last you very long. So

1035
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: I would go with the fourteen six hundred dollars. I

1036
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: think Robert set up those features. If you need someone

1037
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: to kind of help you set up those features, I

1038
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: really think it's going to be a way better situation

1039
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: than what you've got right now.

1040
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: So and I think Samsung does a good job.

1041
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: I just I think that from what I see and

1042
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: hear from Apple, Like when I go to Apple events,

1043
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: they actually make a point of talking about the accessibility features.

1044
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: Like they make a point of saying, here's what we

1045
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: are actively doing to make these devices easier for people

1046
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: of all abilities to use. And they're always thinking about

1047
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: this stuff. I mean the the not just the iPhone,

1048
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: but the Apple Watch and the I mean they just

1049
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: added the ability to use air pods as hearing aids,

1050
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: the air pods pros two.

1051
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: So I mean, imagine all the people.

1052
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: That already have AirPods out there that can now just

1053
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: turn them into hearing aids when this software update hits.

1054
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 2: It has not hit just yet.

1055
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, these are really incredible things that're they're pushing forward.

1056
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: And I think that Google, I think, does a lot

1057
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: of stuff for accessibility.

1058
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: I don't hear about it as much through Google, but.

1059
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: I think that when I go to their events, it's

1060
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: definitely a topic that they are. You know, it's prevalent

1061
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: at the events as well, Like they've had people on

1062
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: stage that talk about it. They've had special guests, and

1063
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: they do show how they're helping along people, you know, varying.

1064
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: Abilities use their devices as well. But I think the.

1065
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: iPhone is going to have the widest ranging features and

1066
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: also if you need help, you can go to an

1067
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: Apple store and they will be happy to help you

1068
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: walk you through some of these features. Thanks for the

1069
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: call today, Robert eighty to eight rich one oh one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we're going to talk to some from Joby Aviation.

1072
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: They are creating an electric air taxi. Hear all about

1073
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: how you can soar over traffic coming soon right here. Next,

1074
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: here's a topic I've been thinking about ever since I

1075
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: watched The Jetsons as a kid flying cars. Now, we're

1076
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: not there just yet, but a new flying air taxi

1077
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: might be the next best thing. A startup named Jobi

1078
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: is working on a four seater vertical takeoff and landing

1079
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: aircraft that source above traffic. Recently, it was on display

1080
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: in LA and I talked to their chief product officer,

1081
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: Eric Allison about it.

1082
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 10: So Joby is a company that's developing a vertical takeoff

1083
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 10: and landing all electric air taxi and also developing a

1084
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 10: service that will be able to deliver that air taxi

1085
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 10: to you anywhere you.

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Speaker 1: Want to an app on your iPhone. Okay, well let's

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Speaker 1: break it down. So first off, yeah, give me the

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00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: idea of this kind of aircraft versus a typical plane

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00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: or helicopter.

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Speaker 10: So our aircraft is uses new technology, the technology of batteries,

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00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 10: electric motors, high performance electronics to be able to take

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00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 10: up and land vertically like a helicopter, but then transition

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00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 10: to forward flight like a regular airplane. So but that

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00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 10: gets us the flexibility of a helicopter with the efficiency

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00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 10: of an airplane. Then what it lets you do as

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Speaker 10: well is do all that with low noise. So we

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00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 10: bring all that together basically to have high efficiency, have

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00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 10: low noise, great operating costs. To make air taxis something

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00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 10: that people have wanted to do for a really long

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Speaker 10: time actually possible in the very near term.

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Speaker 3: So what is the benefit of an air taxi?

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Speaker 10: So our air taxi lets you wherever you are. You

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00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 10: can open up your phone in with one of our

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Speaker 10: partners like Uber or Delta, select where you are, and

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Speaker 10: then basically get a ride to where you want to go.

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00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 10: But instead of being stuck in traffic, which I know

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Speaker 10: that consumers in LA get stuck on average to what

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00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 10: like one hundred hours I think of traffic per year

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00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 10: you're sitting in you can just fly through the air

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Speaker 10: at up to two hundred.

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Speaker 3: Miles an hour.

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Speaker 10: So a trip that might take an hour and a

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00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 10: half to go from someplace like downtown LA to lax

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00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 10: could take seven or eight minutes and set so freeze

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00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 10: you from the traffic in a way that you just

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00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 10: can't right now with any other technology.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 10: So there will be landing designated takeoff and landing areas,

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00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 10: so we call them skyports or verteports, basically places where

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Speaker 10: the aircraft can take off and land just kind of

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00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 10: like a heliport would be with the old technology of helicopters,

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00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 10: And what we'll do is use rideshare to connect you

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Speaker 10: with wherever you are to those verteports, and then from

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Speaker 10: wherever the kind of remote vertiport is to where you

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Speaker 10: want to be. So it's an end to end journey,

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00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 10: but it's going to be through a couple of different

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00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 10: vehicles depending on how close you are. If you can

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Speaker 10: walk or bike or something to that verteport.

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Speaker 1: And so tell them about the aircraft itself. I mean,

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00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: you said it's electric, you said it's quiet. What else

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00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: do we need to know? It looks pretty simple.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So it's four seats, so four passenger seats and

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00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 10: one pilot, so it's operated by a commercially rated pilot.

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00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 10: It can take off and land vert just like a helicopter.

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00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 10: Right here in this configuration, the propellers are pointed up,

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00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 10: but once it takes off, it transitions forward and those

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Speaker 10: propellers come down and point forward just like a regular aircraft.

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00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 3: It can fly really quietly.

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00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 10: So if it was flying over here at about one

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00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 10: thousand feet, which is like low even for a helicopter,

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00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 10: it basical would be silent. You wouldn't hear it as

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00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 10: it flies over and in takeoff and landing, we could

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00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 10: have this conversation if the aircraft was three hundred feet

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00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 10: away and we wouldn't have to raise our voices.

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00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 3: We did a demonstration flight last year in New York City.

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00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 10: Actually we flew off of the Lower Manhattan Heliport within

1147
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 10: a mayor press conference with the mayor there and just

1148
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 10: kind of did a little circuit around over the river.

1149
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: And it was amazing that to.

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00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 10: See people's response because helicopter noises a real problem, and

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00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 10: when places that actually have an option to use helicopters

1152
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 10: in a regular basis, people don't like.

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00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 3: The racket all right.

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00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: So I know the question that is on a lot

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00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: of people's minds is safety.

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00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: How safe is something like this?

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00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 10: So that's what's really incredible about this new technology. So

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00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 10: that what we've done is taken a new approach to

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00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 10: how we design and build aircraft that actually lets us

1160
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 10: add in kind of unprecedented levels of redundancy and kind

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00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 10: of architecture that really makes this kind of a remarkable machine.

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Speaker 3: So I'll give you an example of this.

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00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 10: So in our aircraft, there's not just one battery, there's

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00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 10: four batteries, and each of those four batteries are completely independent,

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00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 10: and they're hooked up to different motors in such a

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00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 10: way that if you had a failure of one of

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00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 10: those batteries during flight, you could still operate safely. And

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00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 10: then in the motors themselves, each motor is actually two

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Speaker 10: motors that are combined together, and each of those two

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Speaker 10: motors are driven by two different sets of electronics, and

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Speaker 10: those electronics are driven by different battery.

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Speaker 1: When are we going to see something like this in

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00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: a city like Los Angeles?

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Speaker 3: So we are hard at work.

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Speaker 10: We've got almost two thousand people at JOBI, the vast

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00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 10: majority of which are.

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Speaker 3: Working on FA certifications.

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00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 10: So in order to launch commercially in the US, we

1179
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 10: have to be certified with the FAA, just.

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Speaker 3: Like any other commercially operated aircraft. We're working hard at that.

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00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 10: We publish a quarterly update basically on how we're doing

1182
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 10: relative to all the steps and certification.

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00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: It's a very long process.

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00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 10: That has a really high bar and so you know,

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00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 10: we're we're happy to be going through it, but it's

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00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 10: a lot of work.

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00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: Cost Obviously, you're not selling this to the general public,

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Speaker 1: you're operating it.

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Speaker 3: But what can someone expect to pay for a ride in.

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Speaker 10: This so we think that we can launch at something

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00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 10: like Uber black pricing per seat.

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00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: So that's our goal is to launch kind of in

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00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: that range.

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00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 10: So kind of it's a you know, like a premium ride,

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00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 10: so kind of for a depending on the trip, right,

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Speaker 10: so kind of on a per mile basis, kind of

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00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 10: Uber black like pricing per seat.

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Speaker 3: We think that as we are able to develop.

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Speaker 10: That network, get more verteports installed, kind of have more

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Speaker 10: efficiency overall, and how we get filled more seats on demand,

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00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 10: we'll be able to drive that price down more towards

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00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 10: Uber x like pricing on a per seat basis as

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00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 10: we get more and more volume of people using these

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00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 10: types of aircraft for air taxis on a regular basis.

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00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: What's the range on this aircraft often? How long does

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00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: it take to recharge?

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00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 10: So we are able to service flights for up to

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00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 10: one hundred miles, so that's kind of the target max

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00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 10: distance that will serve in terms of our flights. And

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00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 10: then we actually have designed it to be rechargeable during

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00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 10: the loading and off loading period of when we have

1212
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 10: this air taxi service operating, so you know, when it

1213
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 10: lands at the vertiport, whoever is in it will get out,

1214
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 10: and then more people will get in the pilot will

1215
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 10: do their checks before they take off again. And we've

1216
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 10: designed an open specification actually that we call GEEKS, which

1217
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 10: is the Global Electric Aircraft System, that charging system actually

1218
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 10: that is actually a charging system designed explicitly for electric aircraft.

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00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: They're in an air taxi operation.

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00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: And if these were everywhere, what do you think the

1221
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: impact is on transportation?

1222
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 10: So I think that's one of the most exciting things

1223
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 10: that if we think about just even taking starting to

1224
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 10: take a small dent out of the amount of traffic.

1225
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 10: You know, studies have shown that you just take a

1226
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 10: few percent of cars off the road, particularly during peak times,

1227
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 10: you actually start to see an overall benefit to the

1228
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 10: overall system.

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00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 3: I'm over and over and over again.

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00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 10: I think that for me, like the idea of being

1231
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 10: able to go to work, you know, go out for

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00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 10: dinner and not be stuck in traffic. I mean, even

1233
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 10: in the best case scenario, if you matter how much

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00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 10: you want to pay for ground transportation, if you're you know,

1235
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 10: going from here to Dodger Stadium or something on a

1236
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 10: Thursday evening, it's just going to take a really long time.

1237
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 10: And to have an option that I can do that

1238
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 10: in seven minutes or eight minutes instead of an hour

1239
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 10: and a half.

1240
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 3: That's that's amazing.

1241
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 10: And I think that it starts to change our relationship

1242
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 10: with mobility. It starts to change about how we think

1243
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 10: about moving around our cities, and I think it makes

1244
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 10: a world a better place.

1245
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 3: So I'm really excited to see us launch.

1246
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: You've taken test flights, I imagine.

1247
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, so we actually have flown I think it's over

1248
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 10: ten thousand miles of test flying so far on our prototype.

1249
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 10: So we have several prototypes that our facility up up

1250
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 10: in near Monterey, California. Marina is the airport that we

1251
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 10: fly out of for our test flights. We actually have

1252
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 10: one of our airplanes up at Edwards Air Force Base

1253
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 10: just north of Palmdale, right here in the LA Region,

1254
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 10: where we're working with the Air Force on under an

1255
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 10: innovative program doing some test flying of one of our

1256
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 10: aircraft up there to show some of the utility for

1257
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 10: this new type of technology and a logistics context for

1258
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 10: the Air Force on a military base as well.

1259
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 3: Have you flown in it? I have not.

1260
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 10: All of our flights so far either remote a test

1261
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 10: pilot so far and I'm not a test pilot.

1262
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: How would you describe How would they describe what it

1263
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: feels like? Does it feel like a helicopters? It feel

1264
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: like floating, It feels different than a helicopter.

1265
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: It's just like a different type of a machine.

1266
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 10: And so they love it, they want They are very

1267
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 10: excited to do lots more flying and we're really excited

1268
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 10: to have more people experience this as our system matures

1269
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 10: and as we move through that testing with the FAA

1270
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 10: to get to our full commercial launch.

1271
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: Once again, that was Eric Allison of Joby giving us

1272
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: a glimpse into the future of urban transportation. The company

1273
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: is targeting a launch next year. And a bit of

1274
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: trivia for you. Joby Aviation was started by the same

1275
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: guy who created Joby Gorilla pods, those flexible mobile tripods

1276
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: for smartphones. I'm Rich Deimiro more Rich on Tech coming

1277
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: your way right after this, Jeff, you're on with Rich.

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00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for taking the call. The reason I'm calling

1279
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 4: is we have a couple of us with several Apple

1280
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 4: iOS devices in our household. One set of them on

1281
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 4: my account actually doesn't have any problems like the other

1282
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: one does, but my wife's account on both of iPhone

1283
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 4: and the iPad constantly need We've tried a lot of

1284
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 4: different things, but ultimately the only fix for our problem

1285
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 4: is to get the email to sync from Yahoo gmails okay,

1286
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 4: Icloud's okay, but constantly and battling why the the emails

1287
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 4: on the Yahoo emails on her iOS and Apple iPad

1288
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 4: and iPhone not always together, but at least one of

1289
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 4: them will just not sink.

1290
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: So delete, So delete an email from one of those

1291
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: devices and that's not deleted on the other one, or

1292
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: what's the problem.

1293
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that as well as we just don't have the

1294
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 4: current you know, emails come through. It might be a

1295
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 4: day or two with the last one showing when we

1296
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 4: know that there's been other emails.

1297
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: That's weird.

1298
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 4: OK. The only thing for that is we've found so

1299
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 4: far as we go in to the settings for mail,

1300
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 4: delete the Yahoo account at it back in and then

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01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: it's okay for a period of time, maybe a day

1302
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 4: or two, maybe a week or two. But we constantly

1303
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 4: have to do that, and I never have the problem

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Speaker 4: she does. She has more read emails than I that

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Speaker 4: are in I don't know if that's the reason, you know,

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Speaker 4: I tend to delete them you know, read them to

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Speaker 4: do something with them and delete them. But that's the

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Speaker 4: only real difference. We both had the same model iPads,

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Speaker 4: iPhones and kind of you know, subscription or is this

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Speaker 4: a whatever service we have with Yahoo?

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Speaker 2: Is this a Yahoo email address through Yahoo? Or is

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Speaker 2: it through like cops or something like that.

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Speaker 4: No, through through Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well look, I mean, you know, I was

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Speaker 1: going to suggest deleting the emails and uh and readding them.

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Speaker 1: That's usually the way that's going to work because sometimes

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Speaker 1: these accounts, if they're they've been added a long time ago,

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Speaker 1: you know, the protocol was different.

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Speaker 2: But it sounds like she's done that. When was the

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Speaker 2: last time you.

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Speaker 1: Did that across Have you deleted them across all the

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Speaker 1: different devices and then readded them?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I just did last night, went through and

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Speaker 4: deleted the Yahoo account from the iOS mail on the phone,

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Speaker 4: and then about a half hour later did it to

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Speaker 4: the iPad. So they're all thinking now right and then

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Speaker 4: I stop, you know, okay, well look it will it'll

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Speaker 4: eventually stop. It hasn't stopped thinking yet, but it seems

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Speaker 4: like it will.

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Speaker 1: If I had a dollar for every time someone had

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Speaker 1: a problem with Yahoo email, I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: deal is, and they just revamped it and it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be better. I mean, I remember when Yahoo email

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Speaker 1: is like, you know, it's really good, and now people

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Speaker 1: just complain about it for some reason.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: But look, I think the easiest thing to do here

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Speaker 1: in this situation, if you're not if it's not sinking properly,

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Speaker 1: is to use the Yahoo app to to check the email.

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Speaker 1: Is there a reason that she doesn't want to do that,

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Speaker 1: because that would make it work for sure.

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Speaker 4: Well, we can except that the r that she uses

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Speaker 4: both Gmail and the Yahoo as well as I do,

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Speaker 4: and it's in one list that it's something with your calendar,

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Speaker 4: and it's all in one list. And if you want

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Speaker 4: to just say creative, you know, invite someone sends you

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Speaker 4: an invite into Yahoo, it's a little more. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if it's easier, but it's least consistent the way

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Speaker 4: you do it, you know. Yeah, and it is the Gmail.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's we realize that's the possibility too, because

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Speaker 4: going into the app, it's it's all we think.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so the only other thing you could do

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Speaker 1: is perhaps, I mean, I'm really trying to I don't.

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Speaker 2: There's no reason why this should not work.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if she's using the only other thing I

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Speaker 1: can think of is that the way that her her

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Speaker 1: mail is set up on the device. Are these recent devices?

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Speaker 1: Are they older devices?

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Speaker 4: No, We've had them both for year or two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's a recent yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the only thing I can think of is the

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Speaker 1: background sinking is not working, like when she deletes an email,

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Speaker 1: like the the mail app is just not like updating somehow,

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Speaker 1: and that's you know, it's not sending the signal to

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Speaker 1: Yahoo to say, hey, you know.

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Speaker 2: Get rid of this email or put this in this

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Speaker 2: fold or whatever. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing I can think of the other

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Speaker 1: The only other thing I might say is if you

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Speaker 1: can go into your Yahoo account and check to see

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Speaker 1: if if there's like signed in devices or anything like

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Speaker 1: that and get rid of any of those devices. And

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to sign into my Yahoo account, I can't

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Speaker 1: seem to get the code that I need. But I

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Speaker 1: would go into the like your Yahoo account and see

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Speaker 1: if there's anything under like authorized devices, authorized applications, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is you sometimes they call it permissions, third you know,

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Speaker 1: third party permissions whatever, and just get rid of those

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Speaker 1: devices and see if that's messing it up. So there

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Speaker 1: might be a section just go through all like kind

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Speaker 1: of the settings on the Yahoo account and see if

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Speaker 1: there's anything where you can get rid of old phones,

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Speaker 1: get rid of old connected devices, and just see if

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Speaker 1: that helps if you remove those, because one of those

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Speaker 1: might be messing it up as well. So otherwise, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would just suggest using the Yahoo mail account or

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Speaker 1: the email app and seeing if that works, because there's

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Speaker 1: no reason why this shouldn't sync to the email app

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Speaker 1: on the iPhone or iOS devices. I mean, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: straightforward imapp connection. The only other thing I would do

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Speaker 1: is once you delete it off of all of the devices,

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Speaker 1: like you said that, you have to delete it and reauthorize,

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Speaker 1: maybe restart the device and then at it again. That's

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Speaker 1: the only other thing I can think of, But that's

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01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: a that's an interesting one. And the good thing about

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Speaker 1: the show, if someone else is happening that issue, they

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Speaker 1: can email me and let me know Rich on tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv hit contact Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you figure that out.

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Speaker 1: But again, the backup is to use the Yahoo email app,

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01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: and you know that's gonna work for sure, So that

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Speaker 1: might be I know it's not ideal because it's nice

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Speaker 1: to have all the emails in one list and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff, but that's a surefire away around this issue.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Paully in uh Michigan. Polly, you're on

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Speaker 1: with Rich.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Rich, you made me laugh about old school TV,

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 11: and I was thinking, you don't have an old school

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Speaker 11: television channel changer until you need vice scripts.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's what like the the old like

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Speaker 1: rotary knob. Are you talking like that used to pop

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Speaker 1: off the TV?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, because the that's always frolks.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's like that's really bringing it back.

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01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: That's like, uh, you have to get up to change

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Speaker 1: the channel, right you did?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's that's like that's not like almost

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Speaker 1: probably the beginning of my time.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: Like I think my first memory was like the cable

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Speaker 1: box like changer like that slid left and right. I

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01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: don't remember that. No, anyway, that was really old school

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01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: back in New Jersey. Maybe it was a Jersey thing. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: what can I help you with, Polly.

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Speaker 11: I have a business and had a YouTube channel, and

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Speaker 11: the YouTube removed it permanently. I'm just hoping you had

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Speaker 11: some advice. They said it was dude to spam and

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Speaker 11: hate speech or something like that, which they would give

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Speaker 11: me no examples, and I appealed it. They denied it.

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01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 11: I wonder if you had any advice, and they said,

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Speaker 11: I can't have another channel again.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what did you do, Polly? What was

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Speaker 2: your channel about.

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Speaker 11: Humming Bird theaters? What so devices?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Come on, really, really, Polly, that is wild and nobody

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01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: at YouTube would would they read your appeal?

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Speaker 2: And they still said no.

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Speaker 11: It sounded pretty automated when they denied the appeal too.

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Speaker 2: Hmm. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Well, the only thing I can think of, so you

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01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: log into YouTube and you've got nothing. You can't get in,

1444
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: got nothing, Okay. The only thing I can think of

1445
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: is you have to write a letter. Use AI write

1446
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: a letter, and you've got to send another appeal and

1447
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: tell them this is your channel, this is the content.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I can think of is that you

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01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: got hacked on this channel somehow and someone else did

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01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: something on your behalf that you did not know about.

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01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I can think of. But if

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01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: you're running a Hummingbird YouTube channel and we're talking about

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: hummingbird like feeders. You should be okay. You got to

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Speaker 1: get that channel back, Polly. This is rich on Tech.

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01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: out with you for another hour right here on rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. The website for the show rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv. If you want links to anything I mentioned here,

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01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: hit the light bulb icon up at the top. This

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01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: is show number ninety one and get links to anything

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Speaker 1: I talk about on this week's show. If you want

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Speaker 1: to send me an email, just go to rich on

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Speaker 1: Tech dot TV. Hit contact. You can send an email there.

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01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: I've got lots of emails, I've got lots of stories

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01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: to talk about, and lots of phone calls. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's a good problem to have, but I

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01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: can never make it through everything that I want to

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: in a given week on this show because I try

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Speaker 1: to prioritize you live callers like Rick in Thousand Oaks.

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Speaker 12: You're on with Rich Hi, I'm what I'm looking for

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Speaker 12: is a program or an app that would sync with

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Speaker 12: my bank so I can see sort of real time

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01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 12: what my bank bounces. I know I could go online

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01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 12: and look, but you know, we do still write checks

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Speaker 12: and I hope that that, but have some way to

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Speaker 12: manually enter a check in that I write and you know,

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Speaker 12: the bank doesn't know about it till it hits them.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like a budgeting Okay, so you're talking like

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Speaker 1: more like a budgeting program.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I'll tell you what I do. I

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Speaker 1: just use a spreadsheet. I mean, that's the easiest way

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Speaker 1: to do it. That's free and simple.

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Speaker 12: I mean it's like, you know, I tried that with

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Speaker 12: Excel all But the problem I'm having is, you know,

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Speaker 12: between my wife and I, we're making multiple ATM purchases

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Speaker 12: a day. We just don't seem to use cash. And

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Speaker 12: you know, you buy gas, you go out to lunch,

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Speaker 12: you know, go to the doctor, there's cocaine. It's just

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Speaker 12: and you know, it's just hundreds of dollars over a

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Speaker 12: few days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what I do.

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Speaker 1: So there's two ways you could do this, and I

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Speaker 1: do something kind of different that because I I'm not

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Speaker 1: a fan of using my credit card, so I want

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Speaker 1: to spend cash when possible because that way I can

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Speaker 1: stay within budget.

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Speaker 2: And it sounds like that's what you're doing as well.

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Speaker 1: So what I do is I actually set up a

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Speaker 1: separate debit card just for all those days to day expenditures.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's like an average of what you're

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Speaker 1: spending on this stuff. You can put that into that

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Speaker 1: debit card every week and then you don't have to

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Speaker 1: track it as much. And what I do is my

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Speaker 1: wife and I both we just know the balance every day.

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Speaker 1: So let's say that I want to buy a new shirt,

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Speaker 1: and I look in this balance on this account, the

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Speaker 1: special account that we have we call fun money personally,

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Speaker 1: and if there's only you know, a ten dollars left

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Speaker 1: in that account and the shirt that I want is thirty, well,

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Speaker 1: guess what, I can't buy the shirt.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: That's just a very simple example. Hopefully we keep enough

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Speaker 1: in there where it's like you can do the things

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Speaker 1: that you need to do. But that's what we're doing,

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Speaker 1: is we're every single transaction. I don't have to monitor

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Speaker 1: the day to day transactions of the cope at the

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Speaker 1: doctor's office, the Jersey mics I get for lunch, whatever

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01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: it is, because it's all coming out of that account

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01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: that we've kind of figured out. You know, I reassess

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01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: every six months or so, how much do we spend

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01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: on you know, eating out, how much do we spend

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01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: on clothes, how much do we spend on this? And

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01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: then you kind of put that amount in each week

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: to this account. Now that kind of takes a whole

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: nother method, but it would definitely solve this problem. And

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01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: because you're writing checks and doing all this stuff, that

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01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: would be something when you write a check you can

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01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: easily use the spreadsheet to take that out of your

1530
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: standard checking. Now that's just one simple way of doing

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01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: it that I've come up with because again, none of

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01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: the other methods for me would work, which is, I

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: don't want to come to a giant credit card bill

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01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: every month and sit down and be like, okay, now

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01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: how do I pay this? So that's what I've done. Now,

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: there are budgeting apps out there. There are many many

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Speaker 1: budgeting apps out there. I mean that, you know, there's

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01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: Every Dollar by Dave Ramsey. There's a winnab which is

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01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: you need a budget Rocket Money has I don't think

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01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: they can. I don't think Rocket money lets you put

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01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: in a check though, but really you need like a

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01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: budgeting software. So I would say Every Dollar's probably going

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01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: to be something that works for you. But it's like

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01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: kind of a paid it's like a freemium thing. I've

1545
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: tried that you need a budget. I don't really, it's

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01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 1: way too complicated for me. And I'll be honest, I

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01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: just every time this happens, I just keep going back

1548
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: to the spreadsheet and that's what I use over and

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Speaker 1: over the spreadsheet with that the method I just told

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01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: you about. I call it a reverse credit card because

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Speaker 1: basically you're putting money in before you spend it.

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Speaker 2: But have you heard of any of those programs I mentioned?

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01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 12: I have not, But it's just something I've been frustrated

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01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 12: with and trying to figure out a way. And I thought,

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01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 12: and it hurts me, like you know, if it's sinkd

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01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 12: Very often I would see a really pretty accurate thing,

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01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 12: you know, it's on my phone or something. But then

1558
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 12: I'm kind of worried about you know what if I'm

1559
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 12: walking into a Starbucks when it starts thinking or something. Yeah,

1560
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 12: you know that it might be you know a security.

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01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: Issue, right, Well, yeah, it's if it's.

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Speaker 12: On three times a day with my bank, that's a

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01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:53,879
Speaker 12: lot of activity.

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is. And most of these things, don't

1565
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, they they sink sort of like on demand.

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: You know, like if I if I go into like

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01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: let's say Rocket Money or something like that, it's not

1568
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: SYNCD in the background. It's like sinking when you open

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: the app. I think for that reason also, I think

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01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: they have to pay. There's like a third party company

1571
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 1: like plaid is typically the company that connects your bank

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01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 1: to these apps. And I think that, of course that's

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01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: not a free service. These these apps have to pay

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01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: every time they ping that service. So now, what would

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01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: be nice if your bank lets you do this, You know,

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01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: if your bank, because that's what most people are doing,

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01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: is they're checking their balance on their debit card and

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01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: then they spend, right, So it'd be nice if you

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01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: can add that check into the the app itself from

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01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: your bank and say, hey, look, I spent twenty five

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01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: dollars on this check, you know, reflect that on my account.

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01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: That would make too much sense because banks, obviously, you know,

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01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: just being a little bit real here, they probably want

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01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: you to overdraft or they probably want you to spend

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: too much, so they're not going to make it that

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: easy for you. But that would be a nice feature

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: for them to do that.

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Speaker 2: You know. I like my method. I've used it for

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01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: many years.

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: It works very very well, and it's simple, and again

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01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: I only have to worry about that account once a

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01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: week or so. And again you get that side, that

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01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: side benefit of you're not overspending and you can spend

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01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: as you want because you just look at that balance.

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01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: If you have five hundred dollars in there, you can

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01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: spend up to five hundred dollars, you know, as long

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01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: as you have your you know, make sure that you've

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01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: got all your stuff covered. But I think the every

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01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: Dollar app would probably be closest to what you're talking

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: about because you could do it from your phone and

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01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: you could put those transactions in as you go along,

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01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: and you can also reconcile. So the paid part of

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01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: that app is that it reconciles from your bank is says, okay,

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01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: you just had three new transactions come through. Where do

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: the you know, what are those four?

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01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 4: Like?

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01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: Is that for your I don't know, You're you're dining

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01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: out fund or whatever it is. So that's that's probably

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01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: the best way to do it. I think that budgeting

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01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: is not easy. It's it's a very complicated process, even

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01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: with all these apps, because if you think about it,

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01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, they all want to make money. They want

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01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: to have some sort of freemium thing and they want

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: to make your life easy, but also they have a

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01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: business to do. So again, I've tried every single one

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01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: of these apps, every single money app out there, and

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01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: I come back to I've been using a spreadsheet for

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01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: fifteen years and every Friday.

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: Open up the spreadsheet, go through all the stuff.

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01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: I literally have to input every single item into that spreadsheet,

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01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: balance it out, and make sure that it's like a checkbook,

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01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: you know, make sure that it's all balanced and the

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01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: money's there. But with the exception of what I call

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01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: that fun money account, I call it a reverse credit card.

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01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: So that is money that already goes in there, and

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01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: so when you know, let's say you put in you know,

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01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars a week, and that money you can

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01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: do whatever you want with because you're actually doing your

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01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: main bills from your standard checking account. So I know

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01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 1: this gets a little nuanced, but it's a very simple

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: way of kind of Okay, you know, your electricity bill

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: is do every month on the eighteenth, you put that

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01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: in the budget. That goes in the budget on the spreadsheet,

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 1: But you don't know that you're going to go out

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: to Starbucks after work with a friend and get a

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: coffee for six dollars and you know, seventy five cents

1637
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: whatever charging nowadays for one of those lattes, And so

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01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: that just comes out of the fun money and you

1639
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: don't have to think about it now.

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01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 2: You just know that balance on fun money.

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01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: Is four hundred and ninety three dollars and you've got

1642
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: that to spend until the next week rolls around, or

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01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: payday or whatever you want to do. But that's a

1644
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: good Another good topic which a lot of people ask

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01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: about too, Rick, thanks for the call, is how to

1646
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 1: see your net worth on one page? And so there

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01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 1: used to be a great app for this called Mint,

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01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: which I remember I was working at k CAL News

1649
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, k CAL nine and Mint came

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01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: out and it was like the first app that put

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01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: all of your accounts in one place, Like you could

1652
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: now take your credit card, you know, your car if

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01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 1: you had a car payment, you could put that in there,

1654
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: your savings account, your four to one K and you

1655
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: can put it all in one place and it would

1656
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 1: literally take every transaction, reconcile and show you your net

1657
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: worth on one page. And this was mind boggling yeah,

1658
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: this was probably fifteen years ago, and it was so

1659
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: cool to see everything in one place, all the transactions.

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01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: You can make a budget, you could do this, you could.

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01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just so so cool. It was

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01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 1: the first time that I think people saw like their

1663
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: net worth in one app, and that was great and

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01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: they had a great run until you know, they got

1665
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: purchased and it just got run into the ground. And

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01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: now it's called credit Karma, I think, which is just

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01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: not very good. And I'd say like ninety nine percent

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01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: of people who switched to that do not like it.

1669
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: Uh so they've been looking for a new app to

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01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: see all of their net worth on one page. And

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01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: I'll just go through these quick. The ones that I like.

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01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: I do like Rocket Money, which I think is really

1673
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: really cool, Like I used that yesterday actually to budget

1674
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: because it shows you on a calendar every single one

1675
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: of your bills, so you can go through the month

1676
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: and literally on you know, September first, you have this

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01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: bill due September second, and it figures that out by

1678
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: linking up to all of your accounts, so even if

1679
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: you forgot that you have a bill coming up, like

1680
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: a recurring bill like I pay for Dropbox on I

1681
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 1: think September thirtieth or something like that. It remembers that

1682
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: even though that's only once a year that I pay

1683
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: for that, it knows it's on that calend, and you're like,

1684
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: oh cool, let me put that in the budget. So

1685
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: Rocket Money's really good. Betterment b E T T E

1686
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: R M E n T. Betterment is really cool for

1687
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: seeing all your stuff on one page. The one that

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01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: I think is the best and the easiest is called

1689
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: Empower E M P O W E R. If you

1690
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: just want to see your net worth on one page.

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01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: Empower Personal Dashboard. They've got an app for iPhone and Android.

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01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: That one's really good. It used to be called Personal Capital.

1693
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: They change the name, but it's such an easy way

1694
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: to see that and it's actually, you know what, rick

1695
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: to answer your question they do on this app, it

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01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: does say you can budget, So maybe try that one

1697
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: and see if they let you put your checks in there.

1698
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 2: And then there's one from Fidelity.

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01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: I've not tried this, but it's called Fidelity Full View,

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01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: and same thing. You can see all of your accounts

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01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: and uh, you know it's neat because you've got money

1702
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: in one account, but you know, you've got money in

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01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: this account, that account. That account puts it all together

1704
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: and it does net worth, so it takes all the

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: accounts and you can actually see what kind of your

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01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: final balance is like the stuff you have, the money

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01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: you have minus the money you owe.

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01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 2: How much is that you know? Leftover? Great question, Rick,

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the call.

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Speaker 1: up for my newsletter. That's always the best way to

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Speaker 1: hear from me. I put all these little tips and

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Speaker 1: things in there. By the way, if you're scrolling through

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Speaker 1: Facebook and you see your own picture in AI, like

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Speaker 1: an AI generated image of you, do not be alarmed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you should be alarmed.

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Speaker 1: So Meta had their Meta connect this week and they

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Speaker 1: mentioned that they're really pushing AI down the throats of

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Speaker 1: everyone that uses Facebook. Apparently a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: actually using their Meta AI. Even though when it first

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01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: started people were like, how do I turn this thing off?

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Speaker 2: It's actually quite good.

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01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: So if you want to use a completely free version

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Speaker 1: of AI, metas ai is actually really good. And why

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01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: is it good Because it's been training on your posts

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01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: for the past twenty years or so, so that's why

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Speaker 1: it's so good. Well, when did Facebook come out? Let's

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01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: see Facebook launch date? Facebook February fourth, twenty two thousand

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01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: and four. Oh, can I get a ding that's exactly

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Speaker 1: twenty years? Come on, let's see anyway, Facebook twenty years? Yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you? So yes, they've been training their AI on

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Speaker 1: your posts, and so they're trying to get people to

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01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: like use this like AI generator called Imagine Yourself. So

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01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: they're just going to start generating pictures of you in

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: like different situations. Like you might be scrolling through Facebook

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01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 1: and see you like as like a medieval king or queen,

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01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: and you're like, what is that my face? And it'll

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01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: get your interest, so you'll click and you'll try using that.

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01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 1: You'll be like, oh cool, I want to see myself

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Speaker 1: as a surfer on a skateboard, you know, fighting dinosaurs,

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01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, next thing, you know,

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: it boosts their numbers. You might come back and try

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01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 1: it more. The images that you see will not have

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Speaker 1: will not be shared with the public. They're just on

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Speaker 1: your feed for you to see. So you're not going

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Speaker 1: to see like your grandma's image on your feed in

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Speaker 1: AI unless she posts it. But anyway, just beware. Just

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Speaker 1: giving you the heads up. That's what I do here.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what's happening. What's going to happen. Disney

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Speaker 1: Plus cracking down on paid sharing, sorry, cracking down on

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Speaker 1: password sharing. They call it a paid sharing program. So basically,

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Speaker 1: like I say on this show, the free ride is over.

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Speaker 1: Disney Plus used to be seven bucks a month all

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Speaker 1: the Disney movies you could ever watch till your eyes

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Speaker 1: would bleed out of your head. And it's now expanded

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Speaker 1: to I think it's I don't know how much it's

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Speaker 1: up to. It's a lot more than seven bucks a month.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm paying more. And you can't share. You know,

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Speaker 1: it used to be you could have your you could

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Speaker 1: have your account with so many people. They't they didn't

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Speaker 1: even care. But now you can't share it. So you've

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01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 1: got options. If you want to share your account outside

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Speaker 1: your house, you can add one extra person for seven

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Speaker 1: to ten dollars a month, and non household members can

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Speaker 1: also transfer their profile if.

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Speaker 2: They already have one, to their own.

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Speaker 1: And if you're away from your house, like if you're

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Speaker 1: trying to watch your on vacation, you're probably gonna get

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Speaker 1: a message that says, hey, hold up, we gotta verify

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Speaker 1: this as you. So we're gonna send you a text

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Speaker 1: message or an email with a code and you have

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Speaker 1: to say, yeah, that's me and pop in that code.

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Speaker 2: So that helps.

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Speaker 1: Like someone that let's say you live in California, You've

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Speaker 1: got your friend sharing your account in Minnesota. They try

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Speaker 1: to log in, they're gonna have to text you and

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Speaker 1: be like, hey, can I get that code? And even

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01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: then Disney might not allow the log in to proceed

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Speaker 1: because they might sniff out the fact that all of

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Speaker 1: your connections are in California except for that one. And

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Speaker 1: unless that's a college kid, you know that's in your

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Speaker 1: family and your household, they're not going to allow it.

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Speaker 2: So just be aware. Free ride is over.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Kevin in Malibu. Beautiful place. Kevin, you're

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01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: on with Rich Rich.

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon. Good to hear your voice.

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01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: Thank you. What's up?

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Speaker 4: Rich?

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Speaker 7: I got a big problem here on our iMac in

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01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 7: a contacts program. Yeah, my information is starting to miss

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01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 7: going away. The contacts are missing and dressors are missing.

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Speaker 7: Notes are missing as simple as well. I use my

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Speaker 7: mother as an example. I had all her passwords lifted

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Speaker 7: in the notes. I see you there now is her

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Speaker 7: phone number?

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Speaker 1: Well that's not good. Don't keep the passwords in the notes.

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Speaker 1: You've talked about this on the show Highly Insecure.

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Speaker 4: So well that's the next one.

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Speaker 2: That's for another day.

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Speaker 1: But yes, use a password manager iOS eighteen passwords built in.

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Speaker 1: What are you using? Where are these kept normally? Are

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Speaker 1: they kept in iCloud? Are they kept in Gmail? Where

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01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: are these kept?

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Speaker 7: Well, what I'm concerned with is the contact app on

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Speaker 7: my iMac. I'm running high Sierra. I called the Apple

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Speaker 7: and we looked into it and I told him this

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Speaker 7: was missing. He looked at my screen and we put

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Speaker 7: in the time machine and went back and in June

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Speaker 7: I had all the information on time machine. But now

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Speaker 7: in September on the actual app it's gone.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And again, how are you sinking these? Are these

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Speaker 1: stored in eye cloud?

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Speaker 7: This is just on the iMac, but yes, it is

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Speaker 7: connected to i cloud.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So what I would recommend is going to icloudicloud dot

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Speaker 1: com seeing if the contacts are in there, and that's

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Speaker 1: the best way. But again you've got to go to

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Speaker 1: that time machine backup and download them and then re

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01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 1: upload them to this app, and you got to figure

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Speaker 1: out why they're actually going away every time.

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Speaker 2: This is rich on Tech.

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01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Typically on this show, I like to keep things light, fun, interesting, obviously,

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01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: always and helpful. And we are seeing a movement here

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01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: in the US where people are realizing and by the way,

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01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 1: this is serious conversation. People are realizing that some of

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01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: this tech is not always the best for us and

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Speaker 1: for everyone, especially when it comes to teenagers and even adults.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this stuff affects people in various ways. Joining

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Speaker 1: me now is Sam Chapman is founder of Parent Collective,

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Speaker 1: and this is an organization that is working to bring

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Speaker 1: awareness to things like the dangers of social media. Sam,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today. Thank you for

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01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: having me so give me the background. I know you

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01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: had a tragedy in your family and I would like

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Speaker 1: you to tell me about that, and this is why

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Speaker 1: we came to this place to talk.

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Speaker 6: Huh.

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Speaker 13: Yes, Well, I'm sort of the cautionary tale. Three and

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Speaker 13: a half years ago, we were on lockdown and we

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Speaker 13: thought our children were in the safest place possible in

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Speaker 13: our home. But it turns out one of the most

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Speaker 13: dangerous items you can give your kids our cell phone

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Speaker 13: or laptop, and a dealer on Snapchat, driven by their algorithms,

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Speaker 13: found our son by networking through his school. Other schoolmates

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Speaker 13: had the quick ad feature on and that as a

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Speaker 13: drug dealer to network with everyone they're connected to.

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Speaker 14: A colorful drug menu was.

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Speaker 13: Offered something free to our son because what was being

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Speaker 13: offered is addictive if it doesn't kill you, and addictive

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Speaker 13: for life. So lethal dose of fentanyl was delivered to

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Speaker 13: our home like a pizza after we were asleep, and

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Speaker 13: we found our son dead on the floor, tried to

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Speaker 13: resuscitate him and failed. The EMT showed up and tried,

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Speaker 13: and then the coroners came and we told the police,

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Speaker 13: let's contact Snapchat and find out about this dealer.

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Speaker 14: See what the profile says.

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Speaker 13: And we were in Santa Monica at the time, which

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Speaker 13: is actually where snap Inc. Is located, and the police

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01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 13: told us that they don't bother calling, that they don't help.

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Speaker 14: Snap Inc. Doesn't help in these cases.

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Speaker 13: In fact, we found out later through the DEEA that

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Speaker 13: snapped chat users were being notified when law enforcement was

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Speaker 13: looking into their profiles, so in a way, they were

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Speaker 13: collaborating with these people. And to this day, Snapchat is

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Speaker 13: an active drug market. My wife likes to say that

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Speaker 13: if you put your kid on social media, it's like

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Speaker 13: dropping him off in the most dangerous drug filled neighborhood

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Speaker 13: and hoping they do well for themselves.

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Speaker 14: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry to hear that, and I'm glad you're

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Speaker 1: here to share what you've learned in this situation and

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Speaker 1: you've been working on Now I know you're working on

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01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: something called Sammy's Law.

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Speaker 2: What's the status of that.

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Speaker 13: Well, Sammy's Law right now is in the House of Representatives.

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Speaker 13: It's HR five seven seven eight, and we're hoping to

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Speaker 13: get it passed in the lame duck session coming up.

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Speaker 14: It's gone pretty far.

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Speaker 13: It's gone to committee and we've got a bipartisan group

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Speaker 13: of sponsors and sponsors. It would require third party safety

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Speaker 13: software on any social media or a gaming platform with children.

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Speaker 13: And this technology exists today. It stops seventeen school shootings,

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Speaker 13: called the police over a thousand times when there was

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Speaker 13: imminent harm, and given warnings to parents over a million

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Speaker 13: times when something dangerous or illegal happened on their children's devices. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 13: on most of the platforms where our children are frequenting,

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Speaker 13: they don't allow it, like TikTok, Snapchat, Discord, the gaming

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Speaker 13: platform and the instant messaging platforms of meta. So the

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01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 13: reason is because those companies get rewarded by the stock

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Speaker 13: market when they announce the number of users every quarter,

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Speaker 13: and if they do something that would limit the number

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Speaker 13: of users, including kicking drug dealers off, their stock price

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Speaker 13: would take a hit. And for some of these companies,

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Speaker 13: like Snap Inc. They've never made a nickel in their

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Speaker 13: entire existence. The only income they've ever reported is from

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Speaker 13: the money that Wall Street has given them, the interest

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Speaker 13: on the money. So stock prices everything to them. User

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Speaker 13: health is not.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk for a minute about this idea of

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Speaker 1: talking to your kids. How do you think parents should

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Speaker 1: start a conversation? Were you blindsided by this? And you know,

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Speaker 1: do you think that you can give parents some ideas

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Speaker 1: on how to like make sure that something like this

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen in their home.

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Speaker 13: So until the law has changed, it's going to be

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Speaker 13: very hard to stop it. Snapchat, for instance, exists because

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01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 13: the snaps disappear, and so unless you're literally looking over

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01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,759
Speaker 13: your child's shoulder if they're on Snapchat, you can't monitor

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Speaker 13: it without the third party safety software. After our Sun died,

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Speaker 13: I asked their CEO to put that technology on his platform,

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Speaker 13: and he refused because they keep their data private because

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Speaker 13: they are selling it to advertisers to target advertising and

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Speaker 13: get more money for it, and they didn't want it

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Speaker 13: cycling through another company. Sammy's Law forbids the third party

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Speaker 13: safety software provider from using the information for commercial purposes.

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Speaker 13: It's only for safety purposes, and you're not allowed to

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Speaker 13: do things under the bill. You're not allowed to do

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Speaker 13: things like out LGBTQ plus kids. You're not allowed to

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Speaker 13: out or give notices to parents about reproductive choices like

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Speaker 13: abortion or birth control. It's really there to guard against

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Speaker 13: drug dealing to your child, or firearms sales, or human

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Speaker 13: trafficking which is going on a sexploitation, which is when

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Speaker 13: someone gets your kids to send a nude pick to

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Speaker 13: them by sending one to your child and then they

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Speaker 13: blackmail the child with the picture, threatening to tell the parents.

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Speaker 14: Or the teacher or their schoolmates.

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Speaker 13: And believe it or not, this is happening more often

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Speaker 13: to young boys than to young girls, which is a surprise.

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Speaker 13: Sammy's law also would be active on the largest gaming platforms,

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Speaker 13: and those are particularly dangerous because your children are playing

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Speaker 13: with adults and they don't even know it, and they

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Speaker 13: think it's one of their best friends. And the adult

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Speaker 13: may be playing with your kid for months before they

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Speaker 13: set the hook and try and do some harm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know my kids are.

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Speaker 1: They're always asking me for something like Discord or you know,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because all these games, you know, they try

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Speaker 1: to have some some precautions built in, right, like filters

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Speaker 1: and things like that. But the smart people that are

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Speaker 1: trying to take advantage, they're always telling your kids to Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's start this conversation on Discord, or let's sign up

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Speaker 1: on this server, let's use this chatting app.

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Speaker 2: And that's the whole point is to get.

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Speaker 1: Outside of that chat system that they have built into

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Speaker 1: some of these gaming services like the Roadblocks of the

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Speaker 1: World and things like that, because they know that it's

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Speaker 1: limited in what they can get away with in there,

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Speaker 1: and so rich.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so that's exactly it, and that's why we need

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Speaker 13: a law. We need all of them to protect at once,

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Speaker 13: so that they don't give up competitive advantage to the

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Speaker 13: other platforms or allow the kids to just switch from

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Speaker 13: one platform to the other. It's why the one off

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Speaker 13: safety features that they announce aren't effective, number one, because

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Speaker 13: they're mostly pr games, and when they are effective, they

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Speaker 13: just drive the kids to another platform. There was a

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Speaker 13: congressional hearing coming up, and you may have heard Instagram

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01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 13: decided to change the way they function the day before

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Speaker 13: that hearing. And that's happened at all the hearings that

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Speaker 13: we parents have gone to. So they put the default

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Speaker 13: settings on private for kids, but any kids how to

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Speaker 13: change those default settings in a second, and it really

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Speaker 13: wasn't a change at all.

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Speaker 14: It was a PR stunt.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about any of the tools

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Speaker 1: or apps that are available now? Is there anything that

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Speaker 1: you think parents can do in the meantime? I mean,

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Speaker 1: the law is obviously something that would you know, it's

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Speaker 1: going to take a long time to happen, if it

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Speaker 1: ever happens.

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Speaker 2: But do you think there's anything parents can do in

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Speaker 2: the meantime.

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Speaker 14: Well, a couple of things.

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Speaker 13: The first thing is I advise, as sort of a

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01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 13: quid pro quo for giving them these devices, that you

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Speaker 13: require all of the user names and passwords for the

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01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 13: devices and the software that they're using. And that way,

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Speaker 13: in an emergency you can check or if you have

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Speaker 13: a problem kid, you can spot check. But like I said,

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Speaker 13: on Snapchat, the snaps disappear, so there's nothing to check.

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Speaker 13: Of all the platforms, I would say that Google has

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Speaker 13: the safest ones. They have the most easy to operate

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Speaker 13: parent device controls.

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Speaker 14: They don't allow a lot.

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Speaker 13: Of the curse words and the sexuality and the things

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Speaker 13: that can be found on the other platforms. So I

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Speaker 13: would just say that YouTube is the safest of them.

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Speaker 14: You know, Google seems to.

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Speaker 13: Take this very seriously. Nothing is perfect. The most important

2011
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 13: thing is the longer you can keep them off of

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01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 13: the platforms, the better. The longer you can go without

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01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 13: giving your kid social media, the better. Bark has got

2014
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 13: the third party software that I was talking about. Their

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Speaker 13: site is Bark dot us. We have no commercial relationship

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Speaker 13: with them. They also make a safe phone. So if

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Speaker 13: your kid's bugging you for a phone, depending on what

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01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 13: age you permit that if you buy one of these

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Speaker 13: safe Bark phones, you'll be buying yourself an extra year

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Speaker 13: or two.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna leave it there, Sam, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. Sam Chapman from the Parent Collective the Web.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a website or how can people find

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Speaker 1: more information?

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Speaker 14: Yesparentcollective dot org.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Sam Chapman, thanks so much for sharing your story

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Speaker 1: and sharing those tips.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 2: me today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you rich All right, coming up, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: more rich on tech right here and get into some

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01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:33,799
Speaker 1: of your emails and things that you sent me throughout

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Speaker 1: the week.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. The website for the show

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech dot TV. So Adobe already forecasting a

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Speaker 1: record breaking twenty twenty four holiday shopping season.

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Speaker 2: This is all online. Total shopping spending.

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Speaker 1: Expected to reach two hundred and forty billion, up eight

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Speaker 1: percent over last year. They're expecting major discounts up to

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Speaker 1: thirty percent off across a lot of categories. Best days

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Speaker 1: for discount Thanksgiving days. People shop on Thanksgiving Day. I

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Speaker 1: guess so toys, appliances, furniture, and sporting goods. Best day

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01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: to score those deals. Black Friday best day for TV deals.

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Speaker 2: We know that.

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Speaker 1: Computers Saturday after Black Friday best day for computer deals.

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Speaker 1: And if you're looking for electronics and apparel, the best

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01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: day is Cyber Monday. Some of the trends social media

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Speaker 1: influencers driving sales. Yep, that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: Some of the top sellers bluey toys, PlayStation, iPhone, and

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01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: various video games. I think you could read that like

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01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: any year. It's like always the same video games, iPhones

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01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,799
Speaker 1: and toys and This is interesting. This year, AI tools

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01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: gaining traction, so people are using them for research and

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Speaker 1: also recommendations.

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Speaker 2: And I will agree to that.

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01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 1: It's my kid's birthday coming up, and my wife and

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01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 1: I were trying to figure out what to get them.

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01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 2: I said, let's ask AI. And I'm not kidding.

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01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: We got the most thorough list of ideas I've ever

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01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 1: seen in my entire life. No website visit necessary, and

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Speaker 1: that's what's worried to some of these websites that you

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Speaker 1: know you do affiliate links and research and things like that.

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Speaker 1: It's just go to AI and you find all the

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01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: information you need succinctly and easily.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the feedback.

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01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 1: These are your emails, comments, questions that you write in

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01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 1: at the website. Rich on tech dot tv hit Contact.

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01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: Christian from Cypress writes in, I have a mother in

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01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 1: law who is in her late seventies and a widow.

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01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,679
Speaker 1: She has a partial grasp of modern tech, but luckily

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Speaker 1: she checks in with me for most of the help.

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Speaker 1: She was watching Amazon Prime via her Apple TV one day.

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01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 1: The movie she was watching paused and a message came

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Speaker 1: up on the screen that said her account was locked

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Speaker 1: due to payment, and she needed to call the number

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Speaker 1: on the screen to unlock and continue watching. She then

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01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 1: proceeded to call and was supposedly speaking with Amazon to

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01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: clear it up, but you guess what happened. After getting

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01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: contacted by her bank Wells Fargo fraud department, over ten

2082
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 1: thousand dollars went missing. She realized that the whole exchange

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01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 1: was a scam and she was swindled out of the money. Afterwards,

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01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: she took steps to fix the problem, changing her account

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01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 1: number and passwords. She even contacted Amazon, who never heard

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01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: of this scam, were thankful for her telling them police

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01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 1: report was filled out and we really want this message

2088
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 1: to go out to your audience. Rich I know you

2089
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: have a vast audience of citizens who need to know

2090
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 1: this new and elaborate scam. We hope you can speak

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01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:40,759
Speaker 1: to it and share this turmoil. So this is interesting.

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01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm really curious how this happened. Because Apple TV is

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01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: very secure Amazon Prime, I can't imagine a message coming

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01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: up during a movie. So I'm really curious how this happened.

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01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,879
Speaker 1: And it may be that things were a little confused.

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01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 1: Maybe the message popped up somewhere else while she was

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01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 1: watching the movie like on her phone. But I do

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01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 1: know there is some scams that are similar, Like there's

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01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: one going around on Roku where it would say your

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01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 1: account was locked and you have to call this number

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01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 1: to unlock or whatever, and a lot of people fell

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01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 1: for that. So just be aware anytime you see a

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01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 1: message like this and you're calling someone you're the outbound call,

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01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 1: even if they're the inbound call, it's a scam. Ninety

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01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of the time, Roku's not going

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01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,560
Speaker 1: to stop your system from working. They're just going to

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01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: literally send you an email say hey, you need to

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01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: update your credit card.

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01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 2: That's it, not going to call you for your bank

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01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 2: account information.

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01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,959
Speaker 1: David writes in I think you should stress the importance

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Speaker 1: of safekeeping recovery codes for major accounts like Microsoft and

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01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 1: your password authenticators. Sometimes people forget the backup of security

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01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,919
Speaker 1: apps doesn't include the underlying security recovery codes, and replacing

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01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: them becomes a pain when something when one does something

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01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 1: stupid like wiping an old iPhone when you trade it

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01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: in for a new one. I am looking forward to

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01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 1: passwordless security becoming the norm. Yes, if you get those

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01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: recovery codes when you're setting up an account, especially an

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01:40:56,200 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: important account. Save those codes that will keep you from

2121
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,720
Speaker 1: getting a major headache later trying to get access to

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01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: that account later on in life. Save those codes, put

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Speaker 1: them in somewhere very safe. Laurel writes in about the

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01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 1: iPhone reports last or a couple in the past couple weeks.

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01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have an iPhone if someone gave me one

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Speaker 1: for free. It would drive me nuts trying to see

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01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 1: all that information on those tiny screens. I noticed you

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01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 1: didn't mention how much they cost.

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01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 2: Why not? Well, I think I did, But.

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01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 1: You know people have gotten used to those tiny screens, Laurel,

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01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:27,759
Speaker 1: thanks for the comment.

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01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 2: Let's see here, Lisa.

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Speaker 1: When listening to you broadcasting from Las Vegas, I found

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01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 1: myself wondering, how's that set up? It sure doesn't sound

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01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: like you're in a hotel room. Maybe you are. How

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01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 1: do you manage the phone calls, the music? I'd like

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01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 1: a peek behind the curtain. Oh, great and powerful tech dude,

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01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: Lisa on the road to SoCal from Surprise, Arizona, Lisa,

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01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised.

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Speaker 2: How amazing it is. I mean, it's it's a system

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01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 2: that the engineers that are much smarter than me.

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01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 1: Set up, and I bring it around in a suitcase

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01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: and somehow we connect in it.

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01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 2: The microphone said, sounds good.

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01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: The system connects to our systems here, and it's quite impressive.

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01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 1: I could do that show from anywhere, and you wouldn't

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01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 1: even know if I didn't mention that I was in

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01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:13,679
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. So it's it's incredible, a little more complicated

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01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 1: than doing TV from other places, but TV have live shots,

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01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: you know. Same thing. Jim writes in Hey, Rich, you

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01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: need to become an honorary Jew so you can pronounce

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01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:25,520
Speaker 1: the Yiddish words correctly. Chutzpa is pronounced hutspa.

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01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: Did I get that right? Hutspa.

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01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 1: It means having a lot of nerve or a lot

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01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,679
Speaker 1: of confidence, or if you're pronouncing it with the Yiddish accent,

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01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 1: you could do ch like a soft k, like the

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01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 1: way some people pronounce hankkah, which, of course most people

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01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 1: pronounce that hankah. Okay, I'm reading this all wrong anyway.

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Speaker 1: That's the Yiddish lesson for today. I don't actually speak Yiddish,

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Speaker 1: but my late mother did take care Jim.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Jim for the Yiddish lesson. I will do.

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Speaker 2: They have dual lingo for Yiddish.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, Shirley writes in, Hey, Rich, thanks

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Speaker 1: for all of you, Thank you for all the tech

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Speaker 1: info you TV viewers and radio listeners.

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Speaker 2: Best to you, Shirley. Thank you, Shirley.

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Speaker 1: That's a good way to end the show here, if

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Speaker 1: you could believe it. And every week I say this,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe how fast this show goes. If you

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Speaker 1: want three hours of your life to go really fast,

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Speaker 1: get a radio show, because I'm telling you, it just

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Speaker 1: flies by. I have so much more to talk about,

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Speaker 1: so many more things to go through, so many emails, comments, questions,

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Speaker 1: and it's just not enough time in the day to

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Speaker 1: do it. Thank you so much. You can follow me

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Speaker 1: on social media. I'm at rich on tech on Instagram, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: and x You can find everything I mentioned on my

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Speaker 1: website rich on tech dot TV. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening. There are so many ways you can spend

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Speaker 1: your time. I really do appreciate you spending it right

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Speaker 1: here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes this show

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Speaker 1: possible today, Adam, thanks for filling in Kim over on phones,

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Speaker 1: my family who puts up with me testing all this

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Speaker 1: tech all day long, and most importantly you thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening.

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Speaker 2: My name is rich Demiro. I will talk to you

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Speaker 2: real soon