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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where, with apologies

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Speaker 1: to Fester, Phil Buck and Drunk, our very favorite uncle

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Speaker 1: is back.

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Speaker 2: We get Uncle there for one more year. Chicago Baby.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, December eleventh, and on today's show, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Capitol One, we'll be chatting with longtime play

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Speaker 1: by play voice of just about every sport there is,

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Speaker 1: Beth Mowens, the OG women's hoops broadcaster, talks about the

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Speaker 1: most memorable moments from her legendary career, the changes she's

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Speaker 1: seen in the women's college basketball landscape over the years,

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Speaker 1: the biggest winners, losers, surprises and disappointments of this college

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Speaker 1: hoops season so far, and her advice to those looking

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Speaker 1: to follow in her footsteps. Plus a timely celebration, a

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Speaker 1: hot and Spicy hoops and gay shit dispatch, and it's

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Speaker 1: pancakes season, folks, Eat up. It's all coming up right

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Speaker 1: after this Welcome back slices. Here's what you need to

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Speaker 1: know today. Let's start with who Where. Asia Wilson is

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Speaker 1: already starting to rack up the year end honors and

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Speaker 1: we're not even talking about the Good Game of Sarah Spain.

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Speaker 2: Slices just yet.

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Speaker 1: On Tuesday, Wilson was named Times Athlete of the Year

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five, not female athlete athlete period. She

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Speaker 1: wins the honor following a season that saw her earn

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Speaker 1: Vegas Aces to a third WNBA title in four years,

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Speaker 1: and she became the first player in the WNBA or

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Speaker 1: the same season. In the Athlete of the Year interview

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Speaker 1: with Tim, Wilson said that that series of accolades is

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Speaker 1: what led her to where a Thanos inspired glove to

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Speaker 1: the Aces championship parade, saying, quote, when you've collected everything

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Speaker 1: that's Thanos and this year I collected everything. I don't

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Speaker 1: really talk much shit, I mean crap. I kind of

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Speaker 1: let my game do it. This was my biggest moment

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Speaker 1: of doing it because no one's ever done what I've done,

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Speaker 1: and I think people really needed to understand that end quote.

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Speaker 1: Wilson also spoke about the credit given to Kaitlin Clark

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Speaker 1: for the success of the WNBA, a league that's been

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Speaker 1: decades in the making, here's an excerpt from the story quote.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, Kaitlin Clark's rookie season helped the

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Speaker 1: created a toxic, racially divisive narrative that she was almost

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Speaker 1: singularly responsible for salvaging a league whose foundation had been

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Speaker 1: built by a mostly black player base.

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Speaker 2: This storyline bothered Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Who in twenty twenty four earned her third WNBA MVP

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Speaker 1: me because I'm going to do me regardless, she says,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to win this MVP. I'll win a gold medal.

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Speaker 1: Y'all can't shake my resume. It was more so, let's

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Speaker 1: not lose the recipe, Let's not lose the history.

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Speaker 2: It was a race for.

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Speaker 1: A minute, and I don't like that because we have

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Speaker 1: tons of women that have been through the grimiest of

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Speaker 1: We'll link to the full time story by Sean Gregory,

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Speaker 1: in which Asia also shares how a learning disability of

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Speaker 1: of the Year wasn't it for Wilson This week? On Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: she was named as the AP's Female Athlete of the

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Speaker 1: Year and named to the host committee for the met Gala,

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Speaker 1: and Miss Beyonce herself. Have yourself a year, Asia, and

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Speaker 1: more celebrations in store for Wilson to the NWSL, where

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Color Neutral Stars have announced that goalkeeper Listenayor

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Speaker 1: You'll recall that while Naarro retired from the international game

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Speaker 1: So we're very, very grateful to you ALYSSA more soccer.

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Speaker 1: The US women's national team is announces details for the

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Speaker 1: second match of its January friendly slate, this one against

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Speaker 1: Chile on January twenty seventh at Harder Stadium in Santa Barbara, California.

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Speaker 1: The first match of the International window, which was announced

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Speaker 1: To college volleyball, the Sweet Sixteen gets underway today with

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Speaker 1: Nebraska looks to continue its undefeated season, with the number

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Speaker 1: All right, slices ready for an early Christmas present. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get straight to my interview with Beth Mowens.

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Speaker 1: She's a play by play announcer and journalist for ESPN,

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Speaker 1: CBS and Marquee Sports Network. A leading voice to ESPN

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Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety four, she's an og women's hoops broadcaster,

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Speaker 1: about every sport NFL, NBA, college basketball, football, softball, soccer, volleyball.

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Speaker 2: She's even called the Price Is Right. Wheelspin.

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Speaker 1: The second woman to call nationally televised college football games

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Speaker 2: She's a pioneer in every sense of the word. A

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Speaker 1: She was a college hooper at Lafayette, where she did

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Speaker 1: A member of the Greater Syracuse Sports Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Women's College World Series for thirty

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Speaker 2: We're not worthy, We're not worthy. In her general direction,

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Speaker 2: it's Beth.

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Speaker 3: Moens I beat Hello, Hello, Sarah, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to finally get you on good game.

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Speaker 2: It's been long overdue.

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Speaker 3: Very excited, very excited to be here. It's been a

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite things is how much fun y'all

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Speaker 3: and Louisiana Techs, so you had pockets of places that

437
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 3: put a big emphasis on women's basketball, and quite often

438
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 3: they were smaller schools. Now, obviously you look at the

439
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 3: top twenty five, it's almost all big football schools that

440
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,959
Speaker 3: are able to channel money into their women's programs, and

441
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: so some of that has changed. I do often wonder,

442
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Speaker 3: you know, how much harder might I have worked if

443
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 3: the WNBA carrot had been out there when I was

444
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 3: playing and it was not. So. I think the AAU,

445
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 3: the summer ball changes everything immensely. Are you playing to

446
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,959
Speaker 3: win or are you playing to be seen? That's a

447
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: question that I think a lot of the older folks

448
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: in our game have. How hungry are you? How much

449
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 3: of a sense of urgency do you have when you

450
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: arrive on these campuses. But I you know, one of

451
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 3: the great things about you know, the whole Caitlin Clark

452
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: debate for me is not issue the best ever. But

453
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Speaker 3: does she crack your all time starting five? And who

454
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Speaker 3: do you player with? Who do you take out? How

455
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 3: would the nineteen seventies team with Blaze and Annie and

456
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 3: some of these all time greats from an earlier generation,

457
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 3: how would they have fared playing the best five today?

458
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: I love those kinds of sort of bigger picture debates

459
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Speaker 3: that that you get into it, And hope, I hope

460
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 3: the Caitlin debate grows into stuff like that, because one

461
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: of the great things about the NBA is you have

462
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: these discussions about how would the older guys have fared.

463
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 3: Now we're getting into thirty years of the W how

464
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Speaker 3: would the early players in the W have fared against

465
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: these guys? And I think that's a great conversation to

466
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: have in the collegiate ranks as well.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you.

468
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Speaker 1: Look at this year and you wonder which of the

469
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Speaker 1: players we're watching now will be in the same place

470
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Speaker 1: next year, which of the players will become greats at

471
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Speaker 1: the professional level. What's nice about the kind of professionalization

472
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Speaker 1: of the college game is that there is more success

473
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Speaker 1: at the next level. Quicker for a lot of these

474
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Speaker 1: top talented players. They're not struggling to make rosters quite

475
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Speaker 1: as much as they used to back in the old days,

476
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Speaker 1: and there are more roster spots now because of the expansion.

477
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of this year's great teams.

478
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Speaker 1: You CON's been at the top of the rankings since

479
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Speaker 1: the preseason based on last year's title run.

480
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Speaker 2: What do you see out of the Husky so far?

481
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Speaker 3: I see everything that you need to win another national championship,

482
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: and you know it starts with Sarah Strong and asy Fudd.

483
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: Bianca Canonez is a nice find for him. Yukon obviously

484
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: has Gino, So you have a coach that's proven, especially

485
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Speaker 3: in the postseason and insight games. You have good guards

486
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 3: in kk Arnold and Ashly and Shade. You have everything.

487
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 3: You have rebounders, you have shooters. I think they're going

488
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: to be really tough to Unsea. I'm in tree By, Texas.

489
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 3: I saw them live the other day. Three big wins

490
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Speaker 3: for them already shorthanded, so Jordan Lee has emerged as

491
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Speaker 3: a good third with Matty Booker and Rory Harmon, and

492
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: then they've got guys that are hurt right now that

493
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 3: could crack that starting lineup, so I'm fascinated to see

494
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 3: how they will evolve and grow once everybody's healthy. Lsu,

495
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 3: you know, this type of scheduling has worked in the

496
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: past for Kim Mulky. I don't doubt that this will

497
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 3: be a team to contend with Their season I think

498
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 3: really starts after January when they jump into SEC play

499
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: and they've got some tough matchups right out of the

500
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: gate Kentucky Vandy, Texas OU so that's a big challenge

501
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: for them. South Carolina Down's going to have them ready

502
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: to go. I'm still intrigued by how Tonaight Latson fits in.

503
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 3: She had her first big thirty point outbursts the other day.

504
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 3: So they've got really good guards still emrging post for them,

505
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: which is a little bit different than in the past.

506
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Speaker 3: So you know, I think those are those are still

507
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: the teams to watch at the top. You know, Michigan

508
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 3: has emerged the Big ten off to a really good

509
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: start the ACC. You know, we're still scratching our heads

510
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: that I think the number is two and twenty five

511
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: so far against the top twenty five. It's been a

512
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: real rough start for them.

513
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Speaker 2: Beth.

514
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Speaker 1: I wish you could see my questions because it's literally

515
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Speaker 1: like you were reading them.

516
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Speaker 2: I asked you about Yu Kon.

517
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Speaker 1: My next question was about Texas, then LSU you did

518
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Speaker 1: squeeze in South Carolina. But then I went from big

519
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: ten to the A SEC struggling. So thank you for

520
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: reading my mind. A couple couple follow ups. In the

521
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: midst of all that, which was all great information, you

522
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: mentioned that LSU has their tend to no impressive. They've

523
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: only been held a fewer than one hundred points once,

524
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Speaker 1: but no competition whatsoever, no ranked matchups until January. Can

525
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: you get a real feel for how good that team

526
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: is thus far as you have to wait till January.

527
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 3: I think Duke gave us a good feel when they

528
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: went into Cameron and it was a disastrous start, and

529
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: that they were able to bounce back from that real quickly.

530
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Speaker 3: I think one of the things that Monchi has done

531
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Speaker 3: over the course of her career has really put together

532
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 3: as sort of an US against the world mentality in

533
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: that locker room that they obviously were still very hungry

534
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 3: and fired up for that game. There doesn't seem to

535
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: be any lapses in the games that they should win,

536
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: and so I think, you know, when you got seven

537
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: guys that are capable of, you know, averaging double figures

538
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: and scoring twenty a night. I am not worried about

539
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: them at all right now. I think they're going to

540
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: end up with eight I think ranked matchups in the SEC,

541
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Speaker 3: which actually is not a whole lot different than what

542
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Speaker 3: like say, Notre Dame has eight ranked opponents on the schedule,

543
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Speaker 3: even South Carolina.

544
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Speaker 2: It's about timing.

545
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: It's about timing, and their schedule's backloaded.

546
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Speaker 1: Yes, because Yukon, for instance, is sort of the opposite.

547
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: One of their few remaining games against a ranked team

548
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: is this Saturday against number sixteen USC.

549
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: Is there a benefit to putting.

550
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: Those games early as you're working through things, or putting

551
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: them late once you've got a feel for who your

552
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Speaker 1: team is and you can really test your best against

553
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Speaker 1: their best.

554
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Speaker 3: I think for a Yukon where you kind of know

555
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: what you have, you want to find out about your

556
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: guys early in the season, and you know that your

557
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 3: conference schedule may not be as strong, and that's really

558
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 3: kind of the only time that you have to do

559
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: a lot of traveling. But for saying, I mean LSU,

560
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 3: they knew they were going to have a really good

561
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: team too, but when you're dealing with the portal a

562
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: bit more. Look at TCU. I mean, they may be

563
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Speaker 3: twenty five and oh going into mid February. The way

564
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: that their schedule looks based on the impact that their

565
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: transfers have, and you're not really sure how quickly they're

566
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: gonna mesh. They've meshed pretty quickly, So you know, I

567
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: always love the non conference games as an announcer, I

568
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 3: want the top twenty five showdowns. I want the top

569
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: ten matchups. As a fan, I love that style of

570
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: scheduling a lot more. But I think there's you know,

571
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: obviously it hasn't hurt LSU or when Kim was at

572
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: Baylor over the year scuff four titles.

573
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mentioned Yukon USC this Saturday. We've also

574
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Speaker 1: got Texas Baylor on Sunday in the Sprouts Farmers Market

575
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: espn W Invitational. Which of those teams you give a

576
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Speaker 1: better shot for the upset Baylor or USC oh.

577
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: I guess I'd have to go with Baylor having a

578
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: shot there since I already had that big win against Duke,

579
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Speaker 3: and I you know, USC, I think is still coming

580
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 3: together while Yukon is already together. So I'd have to

581
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Speaker 3: probably go with Baylor there, depending on you know, the

582
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: availability or Texas with who they have. I think when

583
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 3: we saw him the other day against North Carolina, they

584
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: only had seven that you would consider to be in

585
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 3: their main rotation. So yeah, probably Baylor there, just because

586
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: that's an in state matchup as well.

587
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true too.

588
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Texas certainly the most reasonable one that you could

589
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: argue has a chance to supplant you kind at the

590
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: top right now. We had Vick Schaeffer on the show

591
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: last year. What a special relationship he seems to have.

592
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: We had him and Madison Booker on together. But it

593
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: just feels like that team is cooking something up at

594
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: The question is whether they can, you know, take it

595
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: all the way.

596
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ability to make adjustments in game as a coach,

597
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: but also for your players to recognize and realize, like

598
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: they got wiped out in the first quarter against North

599
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: Carolina it was a layup line for the tar Heels,

600
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: and then the last three quarters I don't know if

601
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: they had another lay up the entire game. So they

602
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: are just all on the same page. It's great to

603
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: go in and watch Vic during shoot around. He's got

604
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: He's always got a thick binder and he carries it

605
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: around with him. He's like he's hugging it the entire

606
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: shoot around as they run through run through things. So

607
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: that is probably the team as of right now. I

608
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: think that would you would have to consider one of

609
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: the frontrunners to try and take down Yukon.

610
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the Big Ten.

611
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: They've tied their own record for number of teams in

612
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: the top twenty five with nine. Now that would be

613
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: more impressive if there were still just ten teams in

614
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, nine out of ten, but still very

615
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: impressive with forty two. However, many teams there are in

616
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten now number four, UCLA, nine and one

617
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: without Ciena Bets seeing a minute of play at this season.

618
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: There was so much excitement heading into the season about

619
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: Lauren and Siatta together. What are you hearing about her

620
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: return and how might her return impact this Bruins team?

621
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Speaker 3: You know, well, I did see Lauren kind of was

622
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: back to her usual self in their last game. You know,

623
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: that's really the big question mark right now. You know,

624
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: I haven't heard any reports on when Siena might be

625
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: available or good to go and how that might affect things.

626
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: If they can play with you know, two post players.

627
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: I do know they have a really good surrounding cast.

628
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: Johnna Neiepkin's made one of the top pickups out of

629
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: the portable when all is said and done by the

630
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: end of the season for UCLA. But that is one

631
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: of the big question marks I think right now for

632
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: everybody is when might we see Siena because the other two,

633
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 3: you know, highly touted freshman Jazzy Davidson at SC has

634
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: had a big game, Alia Chavez is going off. I'm excited.

635
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: My next game is Bedlam on Saturday afternoon, so to

636
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: see Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. This is a big, meaningful game.

637
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: Bedlam is back in a big way because State is

638
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: playing real well.

639
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, yeah, I saw Corey Close, head coach for UCLA,

640
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: mentioned that she might get to see CNA against cal

641
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: Poly next week. That would be fantastic. But yeah, you

642
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: just you got to work her in as a freshman

643
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: and as a new piece, and the dynamic between the

644
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: two sisters is so fascinating, So interested to see how

645
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: they'll adjust when she makes her debut. You mentioned the

646
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: acc A three and thirteen record against the SEC and

647
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: the conference challenge the conference is run of having at

648
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: least one top ten team in every poll ended earlier

649
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: this season, after four hundred and fifty three straight weeks.

650
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: What is going on with the ACC?

651
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. We had Texas UNC, and

652
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: that was basically at the time that was the best

653
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: team in the SEC and the best team in the ACC,

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Speaker 3: and UNC right now may be, you know, the best team.

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Speaker 3: It's a struggle right now for NC State to sort

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Speaker 3: of find their way against a really good schedule. It's

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Speaker 3: been an issue I think for Notre Dame to figure

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Speaker 3: out how all those pieces are going to mesh around

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Speaker 3: Hannah Hidalgo. I think they're going to get things together.

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Speaker 3: The problem I think for the league is they're not

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Speaker 3: going to have many opportunities now for Quad one games

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Speaker 3: because they've all kind of tumbled. And really the poster

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Speaker 3: child right now is Duke against a very against a

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Speaker 3: very difficult schedule. Granted, but they have for their five

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Speaker 3: starters back and Toby Fournier is now a starter, so

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Speaker 3: that that is an experienced group. Can they get it

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Speaker 3: right before their Notre Dame game on January fourth? I

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Speaker 3: think is that that is one of the biggest stories

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Speaker 3: I think so far, Sarah of early in this season

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Speaker 3: because Duke was so highly touted, and also I think

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Speaker 3: because there are so many eyeballs now on Carol Lawson

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Speaker 3: as the head coach of USA Basketball. It's fascinating this

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Speaker 3: week to see how things look in the US training camp, right.

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Speaker 3: I think that's going on this weekend at Duke. So

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Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of folks really keeping a

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Speaker 3: close eye not only on Duke, but on Kara and

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Speaker 3: USA Basketball and how maybe that's all going to come

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Speaker 3: together if they continue to struggle or if they work

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Speaker 3: their way sort of out of this funk right now

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Speaker 3: that they're in, especially offensively with all the firepower that

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Speaker 3: Duke has on the court, it's been a struggle really

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Speaker 3: to watch them at times try and figure out how

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Speaker 3: to score points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple more questions for your biggest surprise this season?

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Speaker 2: Would it be Duke?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think it would be Duke and the struggles they're having.

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Speaker 3: On the positive side, I think everybody's really excited about

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Speaker 3: watching this Michigan team with the three sophomores, you know,

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Speaker 3: led by Olivia Olsen, and just how far they are

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Speaker 3: going to be able to go in a stacked big

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Speaker 3: ten and I love watching you know, Audie Crooks at

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Speaker 3: Iowa State big game tonight against Iowa. They'll probably be

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Speaker 3: a final by the time this hits the air. But

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Speaker 3: you know, how how far can she take that team

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Speaker 3: and the numbers that she's been able to put.

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Speaker 1: Up, and how many points could she put up if

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Speaker 1: there are in a tight game instead of putting up

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Speaker 1: forty and nineteen minutes or whatever she keeps doing every

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Speaker 1: every time you see the box where you look at

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Speaker 1: the points, but then you have to then look at

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Speaker 1: the minutes because she's getting pulled when they're way ahead

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Speaker 1: and she could be putting up even more.

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Speaker 2: So fun, so impressive.

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Speaker 1: What about so far the best transfer move you've seen

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Speaker 1: pulled off? Who's the one that you're looking at saying, okay,

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Speaker 1: that was that was the right spot for the right person.

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Speaker 3: I certainly think Neapkins, who we mentioned at UCLA, is

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Speaker 3: one sort of a you know, pull them back the curtain.

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Speaker 3: For me personally, I had Hallie tim Or in South

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Speaker 3: Dakota State knocking out Oklahoma State last year in the

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Speaker 3: first round of the NCAA Tournament. They were up at

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Speaker 3: Yukon and then tim or ends up transferring to Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 3: where she's now their leading scorer as they get ready

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Speaker 3: to head into Bedlam. So that's another one I love

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Speaker 3: to watch. Okay, you've got a smaller school young woman

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Speaker 3: who now wants to challenge herself against the bigger opposition

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Speaker 3: day in and day out. I think those are a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that the Olivia Miles? I guess if you

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Speaker 1: beat me, I'll join you going from Notre Dames, I mean,

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Speaker 1: see you after the upset in the tournament.

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Speaker 3: That's their whole lineup, Martis Wuarez. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: they have the oldest team if I'm not mistaken, A

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Speaker 3: bunch of seniors and grad students, and you know, Mark

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Speaker 3: Campbell does a great job. This is the second year

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Speaker 3: in a role where he's gotten those guys under from

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Speaker 3: yell asap. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the college player or team that people aren't

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Speaker 1: talking about that you think they should be?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think Maryland comes to mind right away.

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Speaker 3: They had that amazing finish the other day to stay unbeaten,

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Speaker 3: double overtime. Yeah, I think that's a team where you know,

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Speaker 3: Brenda Freeze is going to have them ready to go

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Speaker 3: when the Big ten rolls around, going to have them

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Speaker 3: ready to go when the NCAA tournament rolls around. So

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Speaker 3: I think that's definitely a team that I'm keeping a

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Speaker 3: close eye on. I think Vanderbilt is going to be

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Speaker 3: a team to watch moving forward with the what MICHAELA.

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Speaker 3: Blake's is able to do. They have a big matchup,

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Speaker 3: you know, coming up right after Christmas against LSU, So

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Speaker 3: I think that's probably another player and a program to watch.

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Speaker 3: Led by Shay Ralph.

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Speaker 1: All right, last question for you. You've been at this

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Speaker 1: for a long time. In your intro I mentioned the

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Speaker 1: number of times you were the first woman to do something,

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Speaker 1: and with that comes a lot of acclaim on, a

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Speaker 1: lot of praise at a lot of people saying great job,

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Speaker 1: and also a ton of criticism, a ton of people

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Speaker 1: who are not ready to hear a woman's voice or

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Speaker 1: to welcome a woman into spaces that have been predominantly male.

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Speaker 1: What have you learned from that and what's your best

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Speaker 1: advice to people who are going to face a similar situation,

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Speaker 1: whether in sports or any other business, to kind of

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Speaker 1: get through it and stay confident.

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Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, I go back to my mom,

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Speaker 3: Yes you can. You have to be able to put

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Speaker 3: in the time and the research and the practice, so

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Speaker 3: you have this wealth of self confidence, you know, not arrogance,

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Speaker 3: but the belief in yourself to do the job even

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Speaker 3: when the outside noise is loud. You know. I go

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Speaker 3: back to, you know, when I did the NFL Monday

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Speaker 3: Night Football and with CBS at the time, it was

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Speaker 3: who's in your huddle? And so surround yourself with those

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Speaker 3: people that are the most significant voices, not the you

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Speaker 3: know dudes, you know, chucking stuff from the cheap seats.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's always been important. And I go back

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Speaker 3: to the good fortune I had of just growing up

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Speaker 3: around dudes all the time. My dad was a high

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Speaker 3: school basketball coach. I had three brothers. You know, it

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Speaker 3: was not uncomfortable for me to be the only girl

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Speaker 3: in the room, or the only girl in the gym,

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Speaker 3: or the only girl on the team. So that I

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Speaker 3: think I've always relied on and that's who I turned

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Speaker 3: to when, you know, I kind of do a self scout.

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Speaker 3: You know, what would my old buddies from the neighborhood think,

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Speaker 3: What would my brothers think, what would my you know,

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Speaker 3: all those you know, teammates and coaches think not necessarily

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Speaker 3: the what I would call the anonymous assholes out there

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Speaker 3: that are just looking for can I swear on this

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Speaker 3: show that are that are looking for cliques, that are

782
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Speaker 3: just looking to get under your skin. I don't spend

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Speaker 3: a ton of time on social media anymore that I

784
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Speaker 3: think that's the biggest challenge for young women that are

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Speaker 3: just starting out, because that's such a big part of

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Speaker 3: their daily lives. I encourage people not to look at

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Speaker 3: stuff on social media until I've gone back and watch

788
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Speaker 3: the game myself, because no one's a bigger critic really

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Speaker 3: than you are, and no one has a better understanding

790
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: of oh, I really like that segment a lot, or

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Speaker 3: oh and I wish I would have done that a

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Speaker 3: little bit differently. So those are some of the things

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Speaker 3: that I'd try and do. And don't be afraid. I

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Speaker 3: mean you just you know, you can't be afraid to

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Speaker 3: try new things and challenge yourself. You may have heard me,

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Speaker 3: you know, get into all Mark Twain mode. Why wouldn't

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00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: you go out on a limb that's where the fruit is.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna fall sometimes, just keep getting back up. I

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Speaker 3: failed a thousand times, but if you succeed one thousand

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Speaker 3: and one, that one is all that matters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, I heard someone say that listening to random

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Speaker 1: people on the internet is like if you stopped to

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Speaker 1: really take in what someone screaming on the street was

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Speaker 1: up to. Yeah, and valued it the same way. And

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Speaker 1: it's very true. So the anonymous assholes, they can shove it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, give them out of it. Thank you so much, Bet,

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Speaker 2: it was so great to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Sarah my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to Bath for taking the time, and thanks

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Speaker 1: to Capital One for sponsoring this episode. All right, now,

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Speaker 1: we do got to take a break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: A juicy report from a slice. Welcome back, Slices. We

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Speaker 1: love that you're listening, but we want you to get

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Speaker 1: are four matches today beginning at one pm Eastern, and

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Speaker 1: we've linked to the full tournament schedule in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: And thanks to those of you who have done some

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Speaker 2: I've had a big old.

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Speaker 1: Grin on my face for days as you're all sending

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Speaker 1: your Spotify wrapped screenshots. Nearly ten thousand minutes spent listening

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Speaker 1: Thank you so far this year, and the real wrapped,

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Speaker 1: some cool stuff. Our top countries listening to us on

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Speaker 1: so shout out our Filipino slices. Also, the top music

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Speaker 2: We love y'all. Truly.

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Speaker 1: Also a big thanks to those who sent in their

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Speaker 1: hope you rewrote that otherwise a little bit psycho. Also

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Speaker 1: want to shout out Slice Amy Cookson, who pointed out

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Speaker 1: a category that I absolutely should have included in the

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Speaker 1: draft with Er and Aarin, the gayest team. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how I miss that, Amy writes of ending up

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Speaker 1: with the Rowels again, quote.

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Speaker 2: Who to who for season two?

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Speaker 1: But which is the gayest team? Because that's important criteria too.

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Speaker 1: That's how the Laces became my number two last year.

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Speaker 2: End quote. I'm kicking myself Amy. Next year, that is

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Speaker 2: a category for sure.

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Speaker 1: Speaking to gay we got a hot and spicy hoops

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Speaker 1: and gay shit update courtesy of super Slice Alissa Obradovich.

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Speaker 1: She writes, quote spotted court side at the Ole Miss

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Speaker 1: versus Notre Dame game on Thursday twelve for Khalia Copper.

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Speaker 1: If not from Mikayla Maybury, then why mad The ka

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Speaker 1: is riding with Notre Dame, but ain't mad at the

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Speaker 1: gay of it all end quote.

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Speaker 2: So I did a little digging and it.

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Speaker 1: Does appear that Khalia Copper is dating Marina Maybury's sister, Mikayla,

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Speaker 1: a former Notre Dame hooper who's now an assistant coach

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Speaker 1: Kelly Jones. I'm not going to get into the details

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Speaker 1: of your email, but I want to say thank you.

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Speaker 2: You made me cry.

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Speaker 1: You'll be getting a proper response from me soon, but

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Speaker 1: for now, keep holding those boundaries, working on yourself, learning

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Speaker 1: our pass cross will set aside enough time for.

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Speaker 2: A long, long chat.

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Speaker 1: Forget to subscribe, rate and review, y'all. It's easy watch

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Speaker 1: bowing down to our new favorite queen Pattygonia rating one

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Speaker 1: hundred miles, looking like and raising a million books review.

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Speaker 1: Last week, drag queen and environmentalist Pattygonia completed one hundred

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Speaker 1: mile journey from Point Rays National Seashore to the Golden

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Speaker 1: gate Bridge in San Francisco in full drag fabulousness, redwig

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Speaker 1: smoky I, carabiner earrings, giant lashes, and even more giant heels.

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Speaker 1: She camped every night, got into full hair and makeup

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Speaker 1: every day, and walked her way to one million dollars

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Speaker 1: raised to support eight organizations dedicated to diversifying the outdoors,

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Speaker 1: including Queer Outdoor Exploration and Vominos Outside.

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Speaker 2: Now, this isn't Patty's first nature based statement.

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Speaker 1: In addition to hosting what she calls drag shows for

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Speaker 1: the planet for years, Earlier this year, she helped organize

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Speaker 1: a demonstration at Yosemite that saw LGBTQ plus climbers hang

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Speaker 1: recently challenged US Defense Secretary Pete Kegg's breath sorry heg

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Speaker 1: seth to a pull up contest, making the exercise look

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Speaker 1: very easy in her video. Next to the labored efforts

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Speaker 1: in his you could check out the videos Patty made

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Speaker 1: along the way on her hike via the link in

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Speaker 1: our show notes. As she said, quote, all week people

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Speaker 1: have been saying that I'm inspiring. Honestly, bitch, you should

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Speaker 1: be inspired. This shit is insane.

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Speaker 2: End quote.

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Speaker 1: Now it's your turn, y'all rate and review. Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: See you tomorrow. Good game, Beth, Good game.

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Speaker 2: Alyssa and the stars.

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Speaker 1: You dudes, check it stuff from the cheap seats, Grow up,

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Speaker 1: get a job.

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Speaker 2: Make something of yourselves.

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