WEBVTT - One on One: John Cabrera (Brian Fuller) 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:17.680 I Am all In, Kiss You, I Am all In 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.040 with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast Everybody Scott 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.480 Patterson one on one interview I Am all In podcast 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:31.360 with the one and only John Caprera, who portrayed the 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.640 character of Brian Fuller, who plays bass guitar and help alien. 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.760 It was a roommate of Zach ben Gerbig and Lane 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.360 Kim after Lane moved out of her mother's house. And 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.520 I wasn't aware of And I haven't seen that episode yet, 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.599 have you not Do you not know? Do you not 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.680 know my character? Have you not gotten to my character yet? Yes? 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:55.400 We have. We have been introduced to you quitting, quitting 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.680 the band that was you, that was your debut. You 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.880 just okay, you just boiled yourself because you that what 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.280 you just read. That doesn't happen for a while, I know. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.800 Um So. The first time we see John is in 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.800 season three, episode four, Once Got Class, the Other One dies, 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.680 the y E s He was part of the reboot 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.800 Year in Life. You were in thirty two episodes Gilmore 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:23.640 during its uh historic run, and like me, you've actually 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.000 never seen the show until now. For the past few months, 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.319 John has been watching Gilmore Girls with fans and built 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.720 a sizable community with him with his own tech platform 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:37.040 called Remarkest. Basically, fans joined John every night on Clubhouse 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.880 to watch and discuss an episode of Gilmore Girls together 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:46.360 through the Remarkest app. Well you have an app that's 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:52.400 John has built. Um, fans has build platform. Fans come 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.080 together scheduled to watch events, special events, cast and crew 0:01:55.160 --> 0:02:02.400 talk about the episodes. Um, Johnny, welcome, we we you. 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.160 How did you get the role? Let's let's start at 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.480 the beginning. How did you get this role? Well? Uh, 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.280 this was actually the second role that I auditioned for. 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:18.080 I I uh, so, I guess it starts with although 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:22.200 Amy and Dan say that it doesn't. I mean they 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.080 I always mentioned Sean Gunn as a very important part 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.680 of why I got the role in the show. That 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.799 they insist like, no, no, we auditioned you, you got 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.480 the role had nothing to do with Sean gun But 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.440 the part that that um that they miss or that 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.600 they have missed when when talking about it, is the 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:45.040 fact that I met Maura Casey through Sean gun mar 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.320 Casey is a close friend. UM, she's a Chicagoan. Um. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.920 I'm a Chicagoan. So is Sean we all kind of 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.400 came here together. And um, she of course new Sean 0:02:55.560 --> 0:03:00.799 from from the show. And uh, the the Christmas four 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.120 I was cast on the show, we had a Christmas 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.840 party and she was home for the holiday. She she 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.920 wasn't able to go home for the holidays, so so 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.880 we invited her to the Christmas party and I met 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.040 her there and she's and we had a great conversation 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.760 and I had really just I've just been in Los 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.120 Angeles for about a year and a half. Um, and 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.040 she said, I'm gonna I want to try and get 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.280 you on the show. And I was like, oh, it 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.880 sounds good to me. Uh. She brought me in for 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:34.440 a role. Um. It's actually I can't remember the name 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.400 of the character, but he's one do you remember the 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.760 brother and sister that um Rory goes to the to 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:44.880 the home of that of that that friend, the one 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.440 who's gonna help her get into Yale, like is gonna 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.520 help give her right And he's got the two he's 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.760 got the two siblings. He's got the brother and sister 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.640 and they're like at the table talking trivia and stuff. 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.520 So I I auditioned for for that guy, and and 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.320 Dan was it seemed really into the audition. I came 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.240 out of it thinking like, oh, I got that, he 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.080 was laughing, he was super into it. And then I 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:06.400 didn't get it, and I was kind of bummed. And 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.840 then and then this role came up and Mara said 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.960 that Dan was like, Hey, that one guy that that 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.560 came in for that, could you bring him in? Now? 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.240 That role had had a lot of lines in it. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.520 I remember, you know the other one. I remember being like, wow, 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.120 I'd really love to grab that that role. And then 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.960 the Brian line. Brian role had like one line in 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:32.360 the first episode, right, So my feeling was like, like, Okay, 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.040 this is cool, but he's only got one line. Never 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.080 would I have thought that thirty seven episodes later and 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.480 five seasons later, right, So that's like a really good 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.920 lesson for those uh that that old saying there's no 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.920 small parts, just small actors, right, as a perfect example, right, 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.920 I I would have assumed that that was the end 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.800 of the character, and probably if I had been given 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.599 both on a platter, I would have probably taken the 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.479 first one as an actor because I had more lines. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.960 Not realized, of course, that five years later I would 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.400 have been a part of the show. Well, Um, so 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:09.839 what do you remember most about the series in your 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:14.680 time on the show. Um? I mostly when I think 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.400 of the series, I mostly think of the people I 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:20.000 worked with. I'm and and actually I mostly think of 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.719 the crew. I think about George Bell, I think about 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.880 Valerie brenda Um, and of course I I think about 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.400 Kiko and Todd because I spent so much time with them. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:35.160 So for me, every time I got the call that 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:39.719 I had an episode, UM, it was like it. I 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.680 always got really excited about it because it was my 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:49.240 opportunity to hang out with my friends again. Oh it's nice, yes, Um, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:54.599 and those friendships continue today. I oh, yeah, Todd and 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.600 I are still very very much in touch and close 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:02.120 and so so TAKEO and and actually I still keep 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.120 in touch with Sebastian to a bit, not as much 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.040 as the others, really, what you know, give my best 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.640 to Todd. I saw him up in Canada. We were 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.840 on stage together and had a wonderful time. He's a 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:18.840 wonderful musician and wonderful guy. Just give him my best, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:23.880 would you. I absolutely will. And how Sebastian doing. He's good, 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.160 I mean, I mostly I mostly know how he's going 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.599 from his Instagram. He seems like he's like really really 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:34.560 really into into health these days and and uh eating eating, well, 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:37.920 it still looks like he might be drinking. Well he 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.400 liked his wine. Um. But yeah, and he lives I 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:48.000 believe lives in Vegas. I believe so. I I might 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.359 be wrong about that, but I thought I thought I 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.320 saw something that that said he was in Vegas. Interesting. Um, 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:57.880 so let me ask you this. I have I have 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:02.039 a bunch of fan questions. We want to get to them. Uh. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.800 When the idea for the reboot came came along, what 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:11.000 was your reaction to that? To a year in the life. Oh, 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:15.400 I was excited, but I was mostly excited for the fans. 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.960 I mean, you know, for the decade when I was 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.800 on the show, I didn't really have this sense that 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.360 we were doing anything that was like a pop culture phenomenon, right, 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.000 Like it just it wasn't really that big. Every once 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.560 in a while I had walked into an Apple store 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.200 something that and somebody would recognize me. But for the 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.560 most part, it was still a small show. Over the 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.560 course of that decade, and as social media, because we forget, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.720 when we were on the show, social media wasn't really 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.640 a thing social media really kind of what It's Dawn 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.800 happened in the years after, certainly It's Rise, And that 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.840 was when I suddenly had this direct engagement with fans 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.080 in a way that I hadn't had before. And I 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:58.360 got to watch over that decade, fans get more and 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.080 more and more eager for a return to all of 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.800 these characters. So when the reboot was announced, my first 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:09.800 thought was, Oh, my goodness, the fans are going to 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:15.280 be so happy. M hmm yeah, um yeah. I had 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.680 the same experience, but we're getting tremendous amount of feedback 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.640 every time when I walked out the door, when are 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.640 you gonna do another one? Let's do it some more seasons, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.320 come on, let's once they're coming back. And I mean 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.920 it was and it really reached this sort of pinnacle 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:32.040 at the South By South. But I mean that was 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.679 when I really felt like when we look what like 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:38.080 looking out at that audience of all those people, it's 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.400 sort of it's sort of hit me at that point, 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:46.800 how if this doesn't happen? Like it just felt like 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.559 this has to happen at this point, you know, Um, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:57.960 there was just the fervor was just too high. Okay, 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.880 so let's talk a little bit about it. Really truly, 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.720 that was a big moment for the show. Um, and 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.760 it was perfect timing, and I felt the will, the 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.440 will to do it was there from from from everybody. 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.280 And I remember, I remember this the sentiment from the cast. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.439 I mean, you had like Kelly and you were really 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.960 like there was there was a real sense of like 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.400 we are ready to do this, like let's make this happen. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.240 And you know, I mean obviously like they're bigger powers 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.840 than anything that anybody, including Amy on that stage could 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.120 make happen. So that was sort of an in some 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:36.640 ways and sort of an appeal to the the greater 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:41.920 studio gods. You know that, Um that not only uh, 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.840 not only are the fans ready for it, but but 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.920 the cast is ready for it, which is always such 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.360 an important thing that that fans don't often realize that, 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.080 you know, to make a show, and to certainly make 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.880 a reboot, it's pretty complicated. You've got to get a 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.800 lot of people in line, you gotta get a lot 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.679 of contracts in line, all of that kind of stuff. 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:05.000 And so UM, to hear a cast all say yes, 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.600 we're ready for this, Um that I think that was. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:12.760 That was it's sort of its most important moment. Yeah. Um, 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:13.960 and it was a heck of a lot of fun 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.960 to do. It really was. Regardless of the result it was, 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:21.040 it was it was really fun to do. Um. Can 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:26.280 you explain let's talk about remarks, explain what that is. Yeah. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:31.160 So came out here and my I realized very quickly 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.559 that I couldn't wait tables. It just wasn't for me. 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.320 So I got into technology. I taught myself how to code, 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.840 and I started to code software and whatnot. And for 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.800 about the first year and a half or so I 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.640 was here, I was building software and that, and then 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.680 I met in our Casey and I got on the show, 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.960 and then it changed my life and suddenly, I you know, 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.920 I was I was just only thinking about that. Um. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.800 As the show came to an end, I decided I 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.000 wanted to move behind the camera. I wrote. I wrote 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.960 a script that I sold to Warner Brothers right after 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.199 I the show ended, and that began my writing career 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.280 and sort of began a career behind the camera. Um. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.960 That project gave me a really intimate relationship to or 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.920 a very very interesting insight into fandom in general. I 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.840 got to see what it was like to write something 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:21.720 it was science fiction in a studio where fans were converging, 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.760 and see sort of how fans and and and the 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.960 studio interacted. And I thought that there was a really 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.720 interesting but very strange, almost dysfunctional dynamic between how the 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:33.920 fans saw themselves and how the the studios did. Uh. 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:38.040 And I just got really into this idea that fans 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:44.600 have more they have more power, and therefore should have 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.280 more say in the I P that they evangelized. And 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.440 this became something I was really obsessed with throughout the 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:55.199 teens um and in i'd say mid teens, I started 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.319 to build this product that was sort of trying to 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.319 to bring fans together to create eight content, like actually 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.000 like create IP together. And it didn't really quite go 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.599 where I wanted it to go, and I sort of 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.120 hitting my head against the wall. And then in early 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.319 my wife had our first child, and I thought that 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.120 would be a good opportunity for me, for me to 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.680 sort of reboot, step back from all the work that 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.400 I was doing trying to figure this out. And Uh, 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.120 in the late hours, feeding a baby, changing diapers, I 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:28.840 just had this thought that maybe, um, I should watch 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.679 the television show that I was on for, you know, 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.480 for for five years, that maybe that was actually a 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:41.720 better focus on fandom and relationship to fandom. I had 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.320 this fandom that really loves me for something I didn't 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.720 even know. I'm looking at like this baby girl thinking 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.160 maybe she's gonna watch the show before me, like like 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.600 that can't happen. And so I thought, I'm gonna watch 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.160 this show, um, and I'm gonna show up every night 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.560 in an audio room, and whoever wants to join me, 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.160 We're all gonna just count of three press our lay 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.080 buttons at the same time create a sort of social 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.600 DVD style commentary track. And watched the entire show, and 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.839 I would let fans lead me through the show through 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.360 a show that I was in that I certainly can 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.199 provide value to them on, like I can tell them 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.760 some of my experience, but they can provide infinitely more 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.320 value to me by by by guiding me through a 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.480 story in a world that they know so much more 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.080 intimately than I do. And it was amazing. We we 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.480 did it the entire summer, a hundred and fifty four 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:34.280 episodes last summer, and somewhere halfway through that I realized 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.680 that I had a sort of the beginnings of a 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:40.080 community and a platform around watching shows together. So I 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.320 started building an app. Halfway through the summer, teamed up 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.040 with an x Google Amazon developer, a friend of mine, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.640 um who came on as my co founder, and we 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:54.000 started building this thing. We finished Gilmore Girls in September, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:58.320 and the community started to started to schedule other shows, 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.120 and it's growing and it's auf some it's and it's 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.960 probably the project that I'm most proud of, uh in 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:09.640 my whole career with interesting well, good for you, um, 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.880 you know, it's it's it's It's kind of remarkable how 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.280 the fans have shaped this podcast as well, because we 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:20.000 read all well, I don't read them all, um Amy Sugarman, 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.880 the executive producer, reads all of them, and the team 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.520 reads all of them, and they've they have such great 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.360 suggestions for how to shape this podcast and what the 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.440 content and all that kind of stuff. So so they 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:38.440 are very uh they're a living, breathing um U areudite 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.760 group of people who really know this show cool. I 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.920 mean it's really cool. I mean I love it. I 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:49.320 I have developed relationships in the past year and a 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.640 half with fans of the show that are just so 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.760 precious to me. Um. And and it really did begin 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.840 with their love of a show that I was on 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.600 but didn't really know, which is just the thing about it. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.160 And now I can, really, I can truthfully say I am, 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.320 I am a huge fan of show. And I say 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.000 this all the time. I wish that I sometimes I 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.480 wish that I had watched the show back when it 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.880 was airing, because I could have told folks like you, 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.680 my my colleagues. I could have told you how much 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.000 I admired your work. And I couldn't at that time 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.080 because I didn't because I didn't know your work, you know. 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.760 I mean, you were just you were just somebody that 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.800 was on set with me that we just hung out 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.960 and talk to us people. I didn't really know you 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.280 as as a as an actor on the show. And 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:38.320 and and I mean your work on shows tremendous, so 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.640 as it's yours, thank you very much. But I really, 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.280 I mean, you know, I just like I have favorite characters, 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:48.280 um you know, uh like I'm a huge Puffs fan, 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.640 Like uh yeah, I mean I am. I am. I 0:15:52.680 --> 0:16:00.360 am a full fledged you More Girls fan. Another thing 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.240 about this show, it's amazing how it just keeps uh 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.520 going on with different generations. What's the craziest fan reaction 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:14.320 You've encountered, The craziest fan reaction that I've encountered, Um, 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.600 I don't think I've had any really crazy fan reactions. This, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:23.640 this particular fandom, while very passionate, I would also say, 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:29.960 are very normal, like they're they're they're they're not you know, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.200 I mean when you when you think about I mean, look, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:38.720 you've definitely got your your folks dressing up like Taylor 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.720 Dozy and you know, and and and whatnot for festivals, 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.520 which I guess you know is a little odd, but 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.240 you know, no more odd than people dressing up on Halloween. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.560 But when you think of fandoms, you you typically UM 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:54.600 imagine these very like, you know, almost kind of delusionally crazy, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:17:00.000 uh folks. I've learned that that's not really UM fandom. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.360 Again part of the lesson that I've learned. But I 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:06.000 think that this, in particular, this fandom, UM is full 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.240 of a lot more normal uh fans, or well, I 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.320 would say more reserved fans. I haven't had any, but 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.200 you know, when I go to fan fest, UM, I've 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.920 gone to fan fast in the in the past, people 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.000 are really excited to see you and um, you know, 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.480 run up to you and treat you. You know. One 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.400 thing that that I did have to kind of get 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.439 used to is the idea that, like, you know, a 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:28.120 lot of fans treat treat you as though they know 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.240 you because they feel they do know you. You were 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.720 you were in their living room for years, but they 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:39.159 weren't in your living room. So there's you know, getting 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.600 used to this idea that people talk to you as 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.879 though there you know, as though you're their buddy, but 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.680 you aren't their buddy yet, which is also, by the way, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.240 another big inspiration for Remarcus. I kind of wanted to 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.040 be there, buddy. I sort of felt like, gosh, if 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.800 you're gonna treat me like I'm this old friend of yours, 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.960 then we kind of need to know each other, like 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.840 you know, I don't you know, I can't have I 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.560 can't I can't pretend with a smile that you're my friend. 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.040 I kind of need to start developing relationships with with fans, 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.840 and so that was a big part of it. Um 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:11.880 But other than that, I wouldn't say anything really crazy. 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.400 Um no, me too. It's always been pleasant. Every single 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.159 encounter has been very pleasant experience. Um and I do 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.879 a lot of these conventions and and and they're all 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:26.040 just wonderful sort of interactions with all these great people. 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.560 And these aren't the type of fans that go to conventions. 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:33.040 That's that's not a convention crowd, you know, I and 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:37.200 I mean it's true, and there I feel like they're 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:44.639 something like a festival that gives them this sort of 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.280 weekend in Stars Hollow is a little bit more this 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:51.320 fandom speed than like going and and you know, and 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.800 no doubt, oh, no doubt. Oh yeah. I think that 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:57.600 the appeal of a big part of the appeal of 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.480 the show, it is the town. I think the town 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.520 is a character in the series that lives on in 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.399 people's hearts. When people talk about turning the show on 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.439 or rewatching the show, you often hear folks say I 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.720 want to go to Stars Hollow. I want to return 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.360 to Stars stars Hollow and escape to Stars Hollow. So 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:18.000 a festival for these fans really does have to make 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.320 Stars Hollow as much of of a character that they 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.760 revisit than anybody sitting behind the table doing autographs. Well, 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:31.840 I I sometimes wear the hat, oh nice. Yeah, Like, now, um, 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.760 that one's a that's a black hat. It is it is, 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:37.720 I have it, but it does have but it is 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:39.960 a snap in the front and remarkus. We got into 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:45.240 big debates about the period when when Luke started wearing 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.720 the hat that wasn't the snap front right and had 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.960 the metal buckle, that we were not fans. I was 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:53.800 not a fan. There were some people that were. There 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.960 was some debate, but for most part people were like, 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.160 snap the snaps, that's that's the only way to get 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.320 and starts. It fits and starts when you're trying to 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.679 create something so iconic. But I do think that you 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.280 know that that you're right, Um, a festival like that, 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.920 you know, a festival like that that that does allow 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.560 fans of a show like this to really live in 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.920 that world for a weekend, kind of feel like they're 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.919 in that world. It's the right kind of of a 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:27.400 fandom event for for this particular fandom. Um, absolutely, for sure, 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.919 for sure. But you know when they when the fans 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.840 come to a convention where I'm appearing, or Yunick and 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:38.960 I are appearing, or Sean and I are appearing, they 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:46.600 have a blast. I mean, they really have fun for sure? Um? 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:52.160 Are you ready for rapid fire? Um? No one's ever, 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.199 no one's ever really ready for it. But let's do 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.760 it here. One, two, three? How many cups of coffee 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:03.040 to have a day? Uh? Usually one? Two on a 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.200 good day, three on the back. Are you team Logan 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:09.560 jess er Dean? Uh? Team Logan for the original series, 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.040 Team jess for the revival? Who was your favorite Gilmore 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:16.679 Ger's character? Bad? Good answer? What would you order at 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:21.200 Luke's Diner? Oh? Wink winklers, of course. Would you rather 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.960 go on a road trip with Taylor or Michelle? That's 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:30.200 not a serious question, isn't Michelle a day of the week? 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:37.439 I'll road trip with Taylor? Finished, finish the lyric, and 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:42.040 where you lead, I will follow. Answer, give me the 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:47.320 everywhere that you tell me to anywhere anywhere? Very good? 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.240 If you're the first one, nice, if you if you 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.560 if you need you need me to be with you, 0:21:55.720 --> 0:22:04.040 I will follow. Uh, where you lead. We've actually sung 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.920 out a few times like Todd and I have like events. 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:12.919 I do that that that Um, that isn't me. Um. 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:18.480 Jackson's vegetables are Suki's baked goods vegetables. I'm not really 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.840 a huge sweet person. Would you rather listen to Drella's 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:26.480 Harper the Trooperdare's Troubadours cover songs, The Troupadoorus cover songs, 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:31.280 Child Stars, Stars Hollow High, Children Prep. I mean we 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.199 were barely at Stars hollows Hot and the Puffs are 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.359 at Children Prep. And I want to get into the Puffs. 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:44.080 I will do whatever to get into the box. I'm 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:46.080 gonna see what I can do for you because I'm 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.879 gonna try to get into myself. Maybe we'll start a 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:52.359 guy's chapter, you know, why not, Johnny, it was a 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:56.920 blast catching up. Um. I will actually see you later 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.240 later this year. I'm gonna be at there's an mention 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.480 that we're doing together and oh, you're gonna you're going 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:08.080 to epics. Yeah, which, by the way, that that that 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:12.240 particular convention sounds a lot like the their their whole 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.840 concept for it is sort of this like Snap and Greed. 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.520 It's like a lot more casual than a typical convention. 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.640 Has a very Gilmore girls. Five of us gonna be there, 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:27.240 It's gonna be It's gonna be you me unique, Matt Zukree, 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:31.920 Sean and Greg Henry and Greg Henry, Yeah, the hunts 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.879