1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: I Am all In, Kiss You, I Am all In 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast Everybody Scott 3 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Patterson one on one interview I Am all In podcast 4 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: with the one and only John Caprera, who portrayed the 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: character of Brian Fuller, who plays bass guitar and help alien. 6 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: It was a roommate of Zach ben Gerbig and Lane 7 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Kim after Lane moved out of her mother's house. And 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of And I haven't seen that episode yet, 9 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: have you not Do you not know? Do you not 10 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: know my character? Have you not gotten to my character yet? Yes? 11 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: We have. We have been introduced to you quitting, quitting 12 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: the band that was you, that was your debut. You 13 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: just okay, you just boiled yourself because you that what 14 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: you just read. That doesn't happen for a while, I know. 15 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: Um So. The first time we see John is in 16 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: season three, episode four, Once Got Class, the Other One dies, 17 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: the y E s He was part of the reboot 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Year in Life. You were in thirty two episodes Gilmore 19 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: during its uh historic run, and like me, you've actually 20 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: never seen the show until now. For the past few months, 21 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: John has been watching Gilmore Girls with fans and built 22 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: a sizable community with him with his own tech platform 23 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: called Remarkest. Basically, fans joined John every night on Clubhouse 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: to watch and discuss an episode of Gilmore Girls together 25 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: through the Remarkest app. Well you have an app that's 26 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: John has built. Um, fans has build platform. Fans come 27 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: together scheduled to watch events, special events, cast and crew 28 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: talk about the episodes. Um, Johnny, welcome, we we you. 29 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: How did you get the role? Let's let's start at 30 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: the beginning. How did you get this role? Well? Uh, 31 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: this was actually the second role that I auditioned for. 32 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: I I uh, so, I guess it starts with although 33 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Amy and Dan say that it doesn't. I mean they 34 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: I always mentioned Sean Gunn as a very important part 35 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: of why I got the role in the show. That 36 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: they insist like, no, no, we auditioned you, you got 37 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: the role had nothing to do with Sean gun But 38 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: the part that that um that they miss or that 39 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: they have missed when when talking about it, is the 40 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: fact that I met Maura Casey through Sean gun mar 41 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Casey is a close friend. UM, she's a Chicagoan. Um. 42 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm a Chicagoan. So is Sean we all kind of 43 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: came here together. And um, she of course new Sean 44 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: from from the show. And uh, the the Christmas four 45 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: I was cast on the show, we had a Christmas 46 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: party and she was home for the holiday. She she 47 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: wasn't able to go home for the holidays, so so 48 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: we invited her to the Christmas party and I met 49 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: her there and she's and we had a great conversation 50 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: and I had really just I've just been in Los 51 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Angeles for about a year and a half. Um, and 52 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: she said, I'm gonna I want to try and get 53 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: you on the show. And I was like, oh, it 54 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: sounds good to me. Uh. She brought me in for 55 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: a role. Um. It's actually I can't remember the name 56 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: of the character, but he's one do you remember the 57 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: brother and sister that um Rory goes to the to 58 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: the home of that of that that friend, the one 59 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: who's gonna help her get into Yale, like is gonna 60 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: help give her right And he's got the two he's 61 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: got the two siblings. He's got the brother and sister 62 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: and they're like at the table talking trivia and stuff. 63 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: So I I auditioned for for that guy, and and 64 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: Dan was it seemed really into the audition. I came 65 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: out of it thinking like, oh, I got that, he 66 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: was laughing, he was super into it. And then I 67 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: didn't get it, and I was kind of bummed. And 68 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: then and then this role came up and Mara said 69 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: that Dan was like, Hey, that one guy that that 70 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: came in for that, could you bring him in? Now? 71 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: That role had had a lot of lines in it. 72 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: I remember, you know the other one. I remember being like, wow, 73 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: I'd really love to grab that that role. And then 74 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: the Brian line. Brian role had like one line in 75 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: the first episode, right, So my feeling was like, like, Okay, 76 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: this is cool, but he's only got one line. Never 77 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: would I have thought that thirty seven episodes later and 78 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: five seasons later, right, So that's like a really good 79 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: lesson for those uh that that old saying there's no 80 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: small parts, just small actors, right, as a perfect example, right, 81 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: I I would have assumed that that was the end 82 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: of the character, and probably if I had been given 83 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: both on a platter, I would have probably taken the 84 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: first one as an actor because I had more lines. 85 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Not realized, of course, that five years later I would 86 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: have been a part of the show. Well, Um, so 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: what do you remember most about the series in your 88 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: time on the show. Um? I mostly when I think 89 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: of the series, I mostly think of the people I 90 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: worked with. I'm and and actually I mostly think of 91 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: the crew. I think about George Bell, I think about 92 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Valerie brenda Um, and of course I I think about 93 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: Kiko and Todd because I spent so much time with them. 94 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: So for me, every time I got the call that 95 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: I had an episode, UM, it was like it. I 96 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: always got really excited about it because it was my 97 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: opportunity to hang out with my friends again. Oh it's nice, yes, Um, 98 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: and those friendships continue today. I oh, yeah, Todd and 99 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: I are still very very much in touch and close 100 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: and so so TAKEO and and actually I still keep 101 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: in touch with Sebastian to a bit, not as much 102 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: as the others, really, what you know, give my best 103 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: to Todd. I saw him up in Canada. We were 104 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: on stage together and had a wonderful time. He's a 105 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: wonderful musician and wonderful guy. Just give him my best, 106 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: would you. I absolutely will. And how Sebastian doing. He's good, 107 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I mostly I mostly know how he's going 108 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: from his Instagram. He seems like he's like really really 109 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: really into into health these days and and uh eating eating, well, 110 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: it still looks like he might be drinking. Well he 111 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: liked his wine. Um. But yeah, and he lives I 112 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: believe lives in Vegas. I believe so. I I might 113 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: be wrong about that, but I thought I thought I 114 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: saw something that that said he was in Vegas. Interesting. Um, 115 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: so let me ask you this. I have I have 116 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: a bunch of fan questions. We want to get to them. Uh. 117 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: When the idea for the reboot came came along, what 118 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: was your reaction to that? To a year in the life. Oh, 119 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: I was excited, but I was mostly excited for the fans. 120 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for the decade when I was 121 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: on the show, I didn't really have this sense that 122 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: we were doing anything that was like a pop culture phenomenon, right, 123 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: Like it just it wasn't really that big. Every once 124 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: in a while I had walked into an Apple store 125 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: something that and somebody would recognize me. But for the 126 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: most part, it was still a small show. Over the 127 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: course of that decade, and as social media, because we forget, 128 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: when we were on the show, social media wasn't really 129 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: a thing social media really kind of what It's Dawn 130 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: happened in the years after, certainly It's Rise, And that 131 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: was when I suddenly had this direct engagement with fans 132 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: in a way that I hadn't had before. And I 133 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: got to watch over that decade, fans get more and 134 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: more and more eager for a return to all of 135 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: these characters. So when the reboot was announced, my first 136 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: thought was, Oh, my goodness, the fans are going to 137 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: be so happy. M hmm yeah, um yeah. I had 138 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: the same experience, but we're getting tremendous amount of feedback 139 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: every time when I walked out the door, when are 140 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: you gonna do another one? Let's do it some more seasons, 141 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: come on, let's once they're coming back. And I mean 142 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: it was and it really reached this sort of pinnacle 143 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: at the South By South. But I mean that was 144 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: when I really felt like when we look what like 145 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: looking out at that audience of all those people, it's 146 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: sort of it's sort of hit me at that point, 147 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: how if this doesn't happen? Like it just felt like 148 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: this has to happen at this point, you know, Um, 149 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: there was just the fervor was just too high. Okay, 150 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: so let's talk a little bit about it. Really truly, 151 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: that was a big moment for the show. Um, and 152 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: it was perfect timing, and I felt the will, the 153 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: will to do it was there from from from everybody. 154 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: And I remember, I remember this the sentiment from the cast. 155 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you had like Kelly and you were really 156 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: like there was there was a real sense of like 157 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: we are ready to do this, like let's make this happen. 158 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean obviously like they're bigger powers 159 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: than anything that anybody, including Amy on that stage could 160 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: make happen. So that was sort of an in some 161 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: ways and sort of an appeal to the the greater 162 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: studio gods. You know that, Um that not only uh, 163 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: not only are the fans ready for it, but but 164 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: the cast is ready for it, which is always such 165 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: an important thing that that fans don't often realize that, 166 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, to make a show, and to certainly make 167 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: a reboot, it's pretty complicated. You've got to get a 168 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: lot of people in line, you gotta get a lot 169 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: of contracts in line, all of that kind of stuff. 170 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: And so UM, to hear a cast all say yes, 171 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: we're ready for this, Um that I think that was. 172 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: That was it's sort of its most important moment. Yeah. Um, 173 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: and it was a heck of a lot of fun 174 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: to do. It really was. Regardless of the result it was, 175 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: it was it was really fun to do. Um. Can 176 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: you explain let's talk about remarks, explain what that is. Yeah. 177 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: So came out here and my I realized very quickly 178 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: that I couldn't wait tables. It just wasn't for me. 179 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: So I got into technology. I taught myself how to code, 180 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: and I started to code software and whatnot. And for 181 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: about the first year and a half or so I 182 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: was here, I was building software and that, and then 183 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: I met in our Casey and I got on the show, 184 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: and then it changed my life and suddenly, I you know, 185 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: I was I was just only thinking about that. Um. 186 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: As the show came to an end, I decided I 187 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: wanted to move behind the camera. I wrote. I wrote 188 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: a script that I sold to Warner Brothers right after 189 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: I the show ended, and that began my writing career 190 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: and sort of began a career behind the camera. Um. 191 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: That project gave me a really intimate relationship to or 192 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: a very very interesting insight into fandom in general. I 193 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: got to see what it was like to write something 194 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: it was science fiction in a studio where fans were converging, 195 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: and see sort of how fans and and and the 196 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: studio interacted. And I thought that there was a really 197 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: interesting but very strange, almost dysfunctional dynamic between how the 198 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: fans saw themselves and how the the studios did. Uh. 199 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: And I just got really into this idea that fans 200 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: have more they have more power, and therefore should have 201 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: more say in the I P that they evangelized. And 202 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: this became something I was really obsessed with throughout the 203 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: teens um and in i'd say mid teens, I started 204 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: to build this product that was sort of trying to 205 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: to bring fans together to create eight content, like actually 206 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: like create IP together. And it didn't really quite go 207 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 1: where I wanted it to go, and I sort of 208 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: hitting my head against the wall. And then in early 209 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: my wife had our first child, and I thought that 210 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: would be a good opportunity for me, for me to 211 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: sort of reboot, step back from all the work that 212 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: I was doing trying to figure this out. And Uh, 213 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: in the late hours, feeding a baby, changing diapers, I 214 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: just had this thought that maybe, um, I should watch 215 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: the television show that I was on for, you know, 216 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: for for five years, that maybe that was actually a 217 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: better focus on fandom and relationship to fandom. I had 218 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: this fandom that really loves me for something I didn't 219 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: even know. I'm looking at like this baby girl thinking 220 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: maybe she's gonna watch the show before me, like like 221 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: that can't happen. And so I thought, I'm gonna watch 222 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: this show, um, and I'm gonna show up every night 223 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: in an audio room, and whoever wants to join me, 224 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: We're all gonna just count of three press our lay 225 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: buttons at the same time create a sort of social 226 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: DVD style commentary track. And watched the entire show, and 227 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: I would let fans lead me through the show through 228 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: a show that I was in that I certainly can 229 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: provide value to them on, like I can tell them 230 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: some of my experience, but they can provide infinitely more 231 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: value to me by by by guiding me through a 232 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: story in a world that they know so much more 233 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: intimately than I do. And it was amazing. We we 234 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: did it the entire summer, a hundred and fifty four 235 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: episodes last summer, and somewhere halfway through that I realized 236 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: that I had a sort of the beginnings of a 237 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: community and a platform around watching shows together. So I 238 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: started building an app. Halfway through the summer, teamed up 239 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: with an x Google Amazon developer, a friend of mine, 240 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: um who came on as my co founder, and we 241 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: started building this thing. We finished Gilmore Girls in September, 242 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: and the community started to started to schedule other shows, 243 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: and it's growing and it's auf some it's and it's 244 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: probably the project that I'm most proud of, uh in 245 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: my whole career with interesting well, good for you, um, 246 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's It's kind of remarkable how 247 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: the fans have shaped this podcast as well, because we 248 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: read all well, I don't read them all, um Amy Sugarman, 249 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: the executive producer, reads all of them, and the team 250 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: reads all of them, and they've they have such great 251 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: suggestions for how to shape this podcast and what the 252 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: content and all that kind of stuff. So so they 253 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: are very uh they're a living, breathing um U areudite 254 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: group of people who really know this show cool. I 255 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: mean it's really cool. I mean I love it. I 256 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: I have developed relationships in the past year and a 257 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: half with fans of the show that are just so 258 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: precious to me. Um. And and it really did begin 259 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: with their love of a show that I was on 260 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: but didn't really know, which is just the thing about it. 261 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: And now I can, really, I can truthfully say I am, 262 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: I am a huge fan of show. And I say 263 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: this all the time. I wish that I sometimes I 264 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: wish that I had watched the show back when it 265 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: was airing, because I could have told folks like you, 266 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: my my colleagues. I could have told you how much 267 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: I admired your work. And I couldn't at that time 268 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: because I didn't because I didn't know your work, you know. 269 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you were just you were just somebody that 270 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: was on set with me that we just hung out 271 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: and talk to us people. I didn't really know you 272 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: as as a as an actor on the show. And 273 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: and and I mean your work on shows tremendous, so 274 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: as it's yours, thank you very much. But I really, 275 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I just like I have favorite characters, 276 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: um you know, uh like I'm a huge Puffs fan, 277 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Like uh yeah, I mean I am. I am. I 278 00:15:52,680 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: am a full fledged you More Girls fan. Another thing 279 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: about this show, it's amazing how it just keeps uh 280 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: going on with different generations. What's the craziest fan reaction 281 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: You've encountered, The craziest fan reaction that I've encountered, Um, 282 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I've had any really crazy fan reactions. This, 283 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: this particular fandom, while very passionate, I would also say, 284 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: are very normal, like they're they're they're they're not you know, 285 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean when you when you think about I mean, look, 286 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: you've definitely got your your folks dressing up like Taylor 287 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: Dozy and you know, and and and whatnot for festivals, 288 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: which I guess you know is a little odd, but 289 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, no more odd than people dressing up on Halloween. 290 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: But when you think of fandoms, you you typically UM 291 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: imagine these very like, you know, almost kind of delusionally crazy, 292 00:16:54,720 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: uh folks. I've learned that that's not really UM fandom. 293 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Again part of the lesson that I've learned. But I 294 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: think that this, in particular, this fandom, UM is full 295 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: of a lot more normal uh fans, or well, I 296 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: would say more reserved fans. I haven't had any, but 297 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, when I go to fan fest, UM, I've 298 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: gone to fan fast in the in the past, people 299 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: are really excited to see you and um, you know, 300 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: run up to you and treat you. You know. One 301 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: thing that that I did have to kind of get 302 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: used to is the idea that, like, you know, a 303 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: lot of fans treat treat you as though they know 304 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: you because they feel they do know you. You were 305 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: you were in their living room for years, but they 306 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: weren't in your living room. So there's you know, getting 307 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: used to this idea that people talk to you as 308 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: though there you know, as though you're their buddy, but 309 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: you aren't their buddy yet, which is also, by the way, 310 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: another big inspiration for Remarcus. I kind of wanted to 311 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: be there, buddy. I sort of felt like, gosh, if 312 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna treat me like I'm this old friend of yours, 313 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: then we kind of need to know each other, like 314 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, I don't you know, I can't have I 315 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: can't I can't pretend with a smile that you're my friend. 316 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: I kind of need to start developing relationships with with fans, 317 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: and so that was a big part of it. Um 318 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: But other than that, I wouldn't say anything really crazy. 319 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: Um no, me too. It's always been pleasant. Every single 320 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: encounter has been very pleasant experience. Um and I do 321 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: a lot of these conventions and and and they're all 322 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: just wonderful sort of interactions with all these great people. 323 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: And these aren't the type of fans that go to conventions. 324 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: That's that's not a convention crowd, you know, I and 325 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's true, and there I feel like they're 326 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: something like a festival that gives them this sort of 327 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: weekend in Stars Hollow is a little bit more this 328 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: fandom speed than like going and and you know, and 329 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: no doubt, oh, no doubt. Oh yeah. I think that 330 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: the appeal of a big part of the appeal of 331 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: the show, it is the town. I think the town 332 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: is a character in the series that lives on in 333 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: people's hearts. When people talk about turning the show on 334 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: or rewatching the show, you often hear folks say I 335 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: want to go to Stars Hollow. I want to return 336 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: to Stars stars Hollow and escape to Stars Hollow. So 337 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: a festival for these fans really does have to make 338 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: Stars Hollow as much of of a character that they 339 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: revisit than anybody sitting behind the table doing autographs. Well, 340 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: I I sometimes wear the hat, oh nice. Yeah, Like, now, um, 341 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: that one's a that's a black hat. It is it is, 342 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: I have it, but it does have but it is 343 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: a snap in the front and remarkus. We got into 344 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: big debates about the period when when Luke started wearing 345 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: the hat that wasn't the snap front right and had 346 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: the metal buckle, that we were not fans. I was 347 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: not a fan. There were some people that were. There 348 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: was some debate, but for most part people were like, 349 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: snap the snaps, that's that's the only way to get 350 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: and starts. It fits and starts when you're trying to 351 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: create something so iconic. But I do think that you 352 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: know that that you're right, Um, a festival like that, 353 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, a festival like that that that does allow 354 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: fans of a show like this to really live in 355 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: that world for a weekend, kind of feel like they're 356 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: in that world. It's the right kind of of a 357 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: fandom event for for this particular fandom. Um, absolutely, for sure, 358 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: for sure. But you know when they when the fans 359 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: come to a convention where I'm appearing, or Yunick and 360 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: I are appearing, or Sean and I are appearing, they 361 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: have a blast. I mean, they really have fun for sure? Um? 362 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: Are you ready for rapid fire? Um? No one's ever, 363 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: no one's ever really ready for it. But let's do 364 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: it here. One, two, three? How many cups of coffee 365 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: to have a day? Uh? Usually one? Two on a 366 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: good day, three on the back. Are you team Logan 367 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: jess er Dean? Uh? Team Logan for the original series, 368 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: Team jess for the revival? Who was your favorite Gilmore 369 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: Ger's character? Bad? Good answer? What would you order at 370 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: Luke's Diner? Oh? Wink winklers, of course. Would you rather 371 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: go on a road trip with Taylor or Michelle? That's 372 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: not a serious question, isn't Michelle a day of the week? 373 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: I'll road trip with Taylor? Finished, finish the lyric, and 374 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: where you lead, I will follow. Answer, give me the 375 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: everywhere that you tell me to anywhere anywhere? Very good? 376 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: If you're the first one, nice, if you if you 377 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: if you need you need me to be with you, 378 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: I will follow. Uh, where you lead. We've actually sung 379 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: out a few times like Todd and I have like events. 380 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: I do that that that Um, that isn't me. Um. 381 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Jackson's vegetables are Suki's baked goods vegetables. I'm not really 382 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: a huge sweet person. Would you rather listen to Drella's 383 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: Harper the Trooperdare's Troubadours cover songs, The Troupadoorus cover songs, 384 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: Child Stars, Stars Hollow High, Children Prep. I mean we 385 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: were barely at Stars hollows Hot and the Puffs are 386 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: at Children Prep. And I want to get into the Puffs. 387 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: I will do whatever to get into the box. I'm 388 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna see what I can do for you because I'm 389 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: gonna try to get into myself. Maybe we'll start a 390 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: guy's chapter, you know, why not, Johnny, it was a 391 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: blast catching up. Um. I will actually see you later 392 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: later this year. I'm gonna be at there's an mention 393 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: that we're doing together and oh, you're gonna you're going 394 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: to epics. Yeah, which, by the way, that that that 395 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: particular convention sounds a lot like the their their whole 396 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: concept for it is sort of this like Snap and Greed. 397 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: It's like a lot more casual than a typical convention. 398 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: Has a very Gilmore girls. Five of us gonna be there, 399 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be It's gonna be you me unique, Matt Zukree, 400 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: Sean and Greg Henry and Greg Henry, Yeah, the hunts 401 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: Burgers are gonna be there. Yeah, and it's supposed to 402 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: be it's like it's been you know, I was told 403 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: that it's going to be like a very casual, very 404 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: casual event. Um and uh and yeah again I think 405 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: those are the kinds of events that that that this fandom. 406 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: I think we're all gonna do a group photo. We're 407 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: all gonna, like, I think, on a Saturday Saturday. Yeah. 408 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: So that's what August nineteen through one. And where is it? 409 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: Mount Play is in South Carolina, Carolina Epics Festival or 410 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 1: Ethics it's something Epics dot c L or something like 411 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: that or c I M something. But you can you 412 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: can get tickets, Uh, check out on my website scotty 413 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: p dot com and you'll get the information there and 414 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: we'll send it out in a newsletter and you can 415 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: we'll probably post it on on the socials for I 416 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: am all in um because that's gonna be a big deal. 417 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: That's that's five Gilmore guys together in one place, and 418 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: that's never that hasn't happened before. You know, that's a 419 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: big deal. It's a deal. Um. Anyway, looking forward to 420 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: seeing you in August, as am I as am I, 421 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: and it was really great catching up. Man. It's been 422 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: a very long time, and like I said, I've been 423 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: watching the show and just been thinking, Man, I gotta 424 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: tell Scott how great he is in this. So you're 425 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: too kind. You're too kind, sir, Thank you so much. 426 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: Well each other soon. Yes, absolutely, all the best, Good 427 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: luck with remarks. Everybody listening. Check out John's remarks. Go 428 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: to remarcus dot com to uh to check out more 429 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: information on the project. 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