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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Here
Speaker 1: we are. It is Thursday. Welcome to the Thursday, which
Speaker 1: is the day before Friday. Jes you keeping score edition
Speaker 1: of Hanging with the Boys Live from the s WBC
Speaker 1: Morgan's living room at Fresco, Texas. Shannon Gross, Nate Newton,
Speaker 1: Jesse Holly, Kurt Daniels shout out to wing Stop for
Speaker 1: this poster that I'm going to get some hardware to
Speaker 1: hang it today, so hopefully tomorrow that will be on
Speaker 1: my wall and I don't have to do that ridiculousness.
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the show, Chris bean Man and
Speaker 1: the board keeping us looking good and sounding good. And
Speaker 1: Nate Newton has been extra extra extra quiet in our
Speaker 1: pregame chat. We don't know why he's scheming. He's scheming something, Nate, Nate,
Speaker 1: what are you what are you thinking about today? Great job,
Speaker 1: great job fellas, you got you gotta college. Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: impression you got a collared shirt on today. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're looking good, Like, what's going on? Why are you
Speaker 1: being weird? Why are you being weird? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just being quiet. Because yesterday we did a show
Speaker 1: me and you with broadness and and uh and and
Speaker 1: what's my man? Uhrge team old team was George c
Speaker 1: the Professor. It was just an enjoyable show man to
Speaker 1: see everybody like we did yesterday, to see everybody just
Speaker 1: coming to the fold of Nate Newton. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying at the new quarterback just just I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just at peace. Okay, did you catch what he said?
Speaker 1: He said it was such an enjoyable show. So what
Speaker 1: he basically is saying is he was on this show
Speaker 1: for three days and finally on the third day that
Speaker 1: at night, he was on an enjoyable show this week. Listen,
Speaker 1: that's all. That's all nonsense. Okay. He showed that every
Speaker 1: single day, excited to see us, and even if he
Speaker 1: don't want to be here, they pay him to be here,
Speaker 1: so he got to show up one way or another.
Speaker 1: So he can just say whatever he wanted about what
Speaker 1: other show was enjoyable. This is where it's at. Hey, Jesse,
Speaker 1: you know what I also told him, I said, you
Speaker 1: can best rest the show. I'm gonna hustle on this
Speaker 1: show and show. You gotta worry about my execution base
Speaker 1: but all I got. Let go, let's do it. So
Speaker 1: so many things to get to today. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: the the What do we do with Cowboys defense? Uh?
Speaker 1: Cardinals offense? Yeah? There we go that, right, Cowgos defense, defense,
Speaker 1: you know what we want. Let's go. Let's let get
Speaker 1: to our subject. There. I was gonna say, you don't
Speaker 1: want defense. We don't even know. Maybe we just don't
Speaker 1: even do that. Maybe we just do Cardinals offense the
Speaker 1: whole show. Let's get started with. Let's get stared Murray.
Speaker 1: Let's do it, y'all. Nate, didn't you tell me that
Speaker 1: you saw him play his first high school game here? Yes?
Speaker 1: I did. I did, and uh yeah, man, he he
Speaker 1: a beast. I mean he allegend through over ten thousand
Speaker 1: yards I think one year at fifty four touchdown. I
Speaker 1: mean the game's a legend, man. I mean he's up
Speaker 1: there in the best in the state of Texas. Man
Speaker 1: with the Drew reasons and all those other guys, the
Speaker 1: Earl Campbells. He's all these guys were high school legends
Speaker 1: and he was one two. He never lost the high
Speaker 1: school game, Jesse. This dude was nice. Is he more
Speaker 1: of a threat now running or passing? If you let
Speaker 1: this kid sit back then and pick you apart throwing
Speaker 1: and he can do it. And if you let him run,
Speaker 1: it's definitely over because you don't know what's gonna have
Speaker 1: him then. So he's very He's very Russell Wilson esque.
Speaker 1: When he leaves the pocket to throw the ball down
Speaker 1: the field. He has that type of ability, mobility, and
Speaker 1: accuracy when he leaves the pocket rolling either way now,
Speaker 1: right or left. If he gets outside and break containment
Speaker 1: and he got some dogs, man, he got he got
Speaker 1: the He got one of the greatest receivers of all time.
Speaker 1: In my book, one of my favorites, Liar Fitzgerald. He
Speaker 1: has Christian Kirk who as a speechter, and then he
Speaker 1: has probably arguably the best receiver in the game right
Speaker 1: now and DeAndre oh whoa yeah, yeah denied. Is there
Speaker 1: a way to make Murray one dimensional? Is there a
Speaker 1: way to make him one miss when you pass rush him.
Speaker 1: You have to come at him in a wall whale,
Speaker 1: as they would say, And you have to And when
Speaker 1: you go to tack, don't miss. You rather not tackle
Speaker 1: him and stay in front of him and make him
Speaker 1: stop his feet. Then to going and make him move
Speaker 1: and he'd take off. Then he becomes extra extra dangerous
Speaker 1: on the head. Yeah, you got him. Make Colin Murray
Speaker 1: stop his feet. Yeah, when he drops back in the pocket,
Speaker 1: he likes to keep his feet moving. And he's the
Speaker 1: kind of player that you want in the pocket. I'd
Speaker 1: rather him throw from the pocket because of the height limitations.
Speaker 1: And he's not as accurate in the pocket from the
Speaker 1: pocket as he is when he breaks containment and get
Speaker 1: it's outside of the tackles. But Nate said the exact phrase,
Speaker 1: the set of words. Stop his feet. If you get
Speaker 1: his feet stopped, if you make him be flat footed,
Speaker 1: then you have a chance to win. If you do not,
Speaker 1: and he's able to keep them happy feet back then
Speaker 1: and he's able to move around, old buddy. So is
Speaker 1: this how the Everson Griffin and DeMarcus the defensive ends?
Speaker 1: Is it on those everybody? This is all four or
Speaker 1: five guys. You can't be willing in it this week.
Speaker 1: You got to be under control. It's only two or
Speaker 1: three guys in this league that can make you pay
Speaker 1: from from that quarterback position. I'm talking about pure runners
Speaker 1: as Lamar, his kid here, Russell and yes, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: They will make you pay for uneven pass Russian? How
Speaker 1: does he get out of your lane? Yeah? How does
Speaker 1: he affect? How does he affected the deep line? I
Speaker 1: know you said. Does it make them hesitate a little
Speaker 1: bit and not fire off the ball as much because
Speaker 1: they're afraid of over pursuing or penetrating too deep and
Speaker 1: then losing containment. Does it make you slow down a
Speaker 1: little bit as a defensive line, our defensive ends, it
Speaker 1: makes them maybe slow down and stay in their lanes. Uh,
Speaker 1: be more disciplined in their lanes out the inside, guys,
Speaker 1: just do what you've been doing. Nothing, No, they no,
Speaker 1: this is pushed forward, Jesse. You're gonna stop with that
Speaker 1: negative ism. That's well, what have they done with that?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm gonna send you the film that I watched,
Speaker 1: and you send me the film that you watch, and
Speaker 1: then maybe we see something different on some of this.
Speaker 1: Stop get you some of this, Okay? But here's here's
Speaker 1: a thing about Colin Murray and and and meates absolutely right.
Speaker 1: Our defensive ends. You hear it all the time. You
Speaker 1: got to be able to keep your leverage. You can't.
Speaker 1: This is not the game or the quarterback to play
Speaker 1: hero ball in. This is not the quarterback that you
Speaker 1: want to go and be all doing your thing and
Speaker 1: when you're supposed to be outside, you try to be
Speaker 1: the guy inside. This is not that game. This is
Speaker 1: not that game. I promise you there will be other
Speaker 1: games in the season and other quarterbacks in the season
Speaker 1: that you will be able to break discipline and to
Speaker 1: break protocol and to do all those things and still
Speaker 1: have success Monday night against that jitterbug. You don't want
Speaker 1: to do it. You cannot do it because he is
Speaker 1: going to make you look back at and when he
Speaker 1: does that again. He's not throwing to some jags. He
Speaker 1: ain't throwing to some guys who ain't got no skins
Speaker 1: on the wall. He's thalking. He's thrown into a first
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer who's probably one of the best
Speaker 1: route runners in NFL history. He's throwing it to a
Speaker 1: guy who no matter if you put two guys on him.
Speaker 1: He's still open and then he's playing with the speech
Speaker 1: stir So if these dbs think getting your eyes in
Speaker 1: the backfield, trying to cheat, trying to do different things
Speaker 1: like this, you are going to pay. This is not
Speaker 1: the game for you to go out there and try
Speaker 1: to be doing your own thing hero ball, you know,
Speaker 1: diving in when you should be out, being out when
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be in, not in your lanes, not
Speaker 1: doing you're supposed to doing. I promise you this is
Speaker 1: not This is not the quarterback for this. This is
Speaker 1: not the team for this. This ain't the head coach
Speaker 1: from this. And I promise you I don't care what
Speaker 1: sleep number bed he has. I don't care how clear
Speaker 1: I visioned view he got. Your boy, Jalen is having
Speaker 1: trouble sleeping this week. You see, he had a great
Speaker 1: game plan last week. He went up against the great
Speaker 1: Grayson Garrett, who doesn't do much shifting and motioning and
Speaker 1: bunch formations. Jason Garrett is a straight up and down
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Like a pencil, straight up and down.
Speaker 1: We're gonna line up a number two pencil. You gotta
Speaker 1: bring it to the scant for the scantron and He's
Speaker 1: gonna line up, straight up and down and come at you.
Speaker 1: Whoa not coach bro not old Cliffy, Cliff Cliffy gonna
Speaker 1: motion the motion. He gonna bunch the bunch. He gonna
Speaker 1: flip and swap. And that is the one thing that
Speaker 1: has beat the living daylights out of Jayleen Smith all
Speaker 1: year long. When he has been getting his eyes in
Speaker 1: the backfield and guys have been moving and shifting, he
Speaker 1: has not been able to keep up with that. He
Speaker 1: has not been able to figure that stuff out just yet.
Speaker 1: That's why one of the reasons why he had a
Speaker 1: great game last week because it was right in front
Speaker 1: of him. There was no there was no if as
Speaker 1: a butts about it, and he went to the football.
Speaker 1: You won't have that this week. You will have guys moving, flipping, turning,
Speaker 1: shaking and doing all other color stuff that they can
Speaker 1: do with Cliff Kingsbury at the Helm. A lot of
Speaker 1: people have questioned, Kingsbury, do you like what he's doing
Speaker 1: out there? I like his play calling, I like his
Speaker 1: play designing. I should say his play designing. He's a
Speaker 1: guy who can get guys open, can run some creative plays.
Speaker 1: I think they're now starting to get into a little groove.
Speaker 1: He and Colin Murray. He has a bona fide receiver
Speaker 1: right now. I think he is one of those guys
Speaker 1: where it's going to His style hasn't fully taken over
Speaker 1: the league yet, but he's being able to create some
Speaker 1: confusion and they're playing some good football this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised because he's got kind of
Speaker 1: this running gun attack. But they're we talked about it
Speaker 1: some yesterday. Their time of possession is I think they're
Speaker 1: twenty nine minutes, so I mean it's they're they're doing
Speaker 1: what I guess the Cowboys need to do and that
Speaker 1: they're moving it quick but racking up the time. I
Speaker 1: tell's right here, man, it's gonna be a very exciting
Speaker 1: game to watch. Man, this kid is coming home, and
Speaker 1: if we can get him early, get a pick or
Speaker 1: something early, you know, when he's before he settled down,
Speaker 1: because he'll be just a touch punk for this. It's
Speaker 1: a Monday night coming home to dive. Big twelve championship,
Speaker 1: three state championships. You know, he'll be a little geek.
Speaker 1: If we can catch him early and make it make
Speaker 1: something bad happen, it'll go a long ways. But if
Speaker 1: this kids settle down and realize, like okay, back at
Speaker 1: the crib, just like it back An Allen, it could
Speaker 1: be a long day, long day, Nate. What do you
Speaker 1: see in from their offensive line? What kind of not
Speaker 1: offensive line do they have? Nice? They got they nice?
Speaker 1: They Sean Coogler is the offensive line coach. I don't
Speaker 1: know its history, but these guys are nice. Uh kind
Speaker 1: of technique sound get on their guys seem to know
Speaker 1: their assignments and with everything spread out, it ain't a
Speaker 1: whole lot to read. They can see where most blitzes
Speaker 1: are coming from. They're pretty good. I mean, they can
Speaker 1: be beat, but he's gonna but you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: work them all game long and set them up. You
Speaker 1: know they got sweezy. They got from from Seattle a
Speaker 1: few years back. So you know he ain't the great
Speaker 1: this guy, but he's strong and he's physical. Here be
Speaker 1: lumbering right guard, but he does his job. And I
Speaker 1: just say, legs right here, Shannon, this is another team
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys can beat. But the Cowboys have to
Speaker 1: play mistake free every time you get the ball back
Speaker 1: to Kyla mur excuse me, it could be. It could
Speaker 1: be a death sentence. I mean because he could score
Speaker 1: legs hand I mean legs arms he got the receivers
Speaker 1: running backs are not bad and Kenyan Drake and what's
Speaker 1: the other kid name? I can't think of his name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not bad, man, I mean I chase that much. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're not bad. They're a good solid Uh seem to
Speaker 1: be technique sounds, seem to not get a whole lot
Speaker 1: of bad penalties. So they played with and then the
Speaker 1: quarterback makes you offen his line look even better. His
Speaker 1: willingness to get out of trouble and not take not
Speaker 1: take a loss. And that is what we have to
Speaker 1: do on other side of the ball too. We can't
Speaker 1: take losses. That has hurt Cowboys. Third and long miss
Speaker 1: third and long. That first down is so key in
Speaker 1: this game. If we can stay ahead of the chains
Speaker 1: and I ain't Tibbou just running up in there slamming.
Speaker 1: You're heading to a wall. But getting that ball going forward,
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, it's gonna be a nice game. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to our scoring and how low scoring,
Speaker 1: but this kid coming in here to show everybody with Texas, Texas,
Speaker 1: with Texas been missing the last few years. I have
Speaker 1: a quick question for you guys, for for Kurt, for Nate,
Speaker 1: and for Shannon. So reports are and Mike McCarthy said
Speaker 1: that Layton Vanderesh has been active this week, full participant
Speaker 1: in practice yesterday, will be again today, and then he'll
Speaker 1: be getting some hitting in on Friday. Coming into this game,
Speaker 1: do you go with Layton Vanderesh and Joe Thomas or
Speaker 1: do you kick Joe Thomas off the field and go
Speaker 1: back to Layton Van Dress and Jalen Smith? Or do
Speaker 1: you stay with Jalen Smith and Joe Thomas and you
Speaker 1: work lating Van drsh In there sprang way throughout the game.
Speaker 1: I thought he had a broke collar bone. He does
Speaker 1: what they're talking about. He might be able to play Monday,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I hope they only play him
Speaker 1: if he's ready. I mean, I ain't for them to
Speaker 1: rush him back and then they're losing even longer. But
Speaker 1: if the trainers ain't gonna go for that, did we
Speaker 1: know these guys, Yester, they you know it ain't no
Speaker 1: collar bone. It's just know in the world a linebacker,
Speaker 1: a middle linebacker who leaves with his upper body all
Speaker 1: the time. Something ain't write in this picture, and uh
Speaker 1: they and I promise you they ain't letting him back
Speaker 1: out on that field. Jim marred him. Got they ain't
Speaker 1: letting him. If he ain't ready, they ain't letting him.
Speaker 1: So maybe some missed something. If he is ready, then
Speaker 1: they got to play him, don't they. I mean you
Speaker 1: have to play. Yeah, you have no other Chan and
Speaker 1: Van dress out, you know, Jess Jesse, you know what
Speaker 1: is gonna drive me absolutely insane is if he gets
Speaker 1: on the field and all of a sudden, your linebackers
Speaker 1: and your secondary start playing like a different team. When
Speaker 1: you have you know, you lose Sean Lee and we
Speaker 1: forget how to play defense. You lose Layton vander Esh.
Speaker 1: Your defense looks completely different. You know, we've had that,
Speaker 1: we've seen that, we've read this book before. It's gonna
Speaker 1: make me lose my mind. If he gets out there
Speaker 1: and they know they know where to line up, they
Speaker 1: know assignment football, they they're they're able to not blow coverages.
Speaker 1: That that is gonna make me lose my mind. I
Speaker 1: think if he's ready to go, I think you play
Speaker 1: him in Jalen because I think Jaalen plays very complimentary football.
Speaker 1: When Layton is out on the field. When when Jalen's
Speaker 1: the the guy, I don't think he's quite as good
Speaker 1: is Layton. And if he's, if he's physically ready to
Speaker 1: go and can take the snap count, I think you
Speaker 1: play those two together. I love Joe Thomas. I love
Speaker 1: what Joe Thomas does, but I think Joe Thomas is
Speaker 1: a lot better when he has, you know, a few
Speaker 1: less snaps than what he's been taken. But I would
Speaker 1: roll out there with jay Len and Layton, and like
Speaker 1: I said, it's going to make me, it's gonna drive
Speaker 1: me nuts. Yes, this looks like a different unit. Jes
Speaker 1: If you can tell me that the middle of Devon's
Speaker 1: line it's gonna play on the line of scrimmage, pressing
Speaker 1: towards the other line of scrimmage, I'll go with Shannon.
Speaker 1: I go with Shannon. But if you're telling me that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same old pushback thing, what makes
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna change. What you think it's gonna
Speaker 1: change in week six and ain't been and ain't it
Speaker 1: ain't happened in five weeks? Well, many think it's gonna
Speaker 1: change in week six or week seven or whatever. He
Speaker 1: because the player plan, hoping a plan, hoping the plan
Speaker 1: but so but so soldiers like turn them. If hope
Speaker 1: is your strategy, I'm gonna tell your butt up every
Speaker 1: single time. If if hope is your strategy, you went.
Speaker 1: You went in the world to try. Remember I went
Speaker 1: three and thirteen and I went to hoping for a
Speaker 1: better situation, and three he went working for a better situation.
Speaker 1: What you went for, You went working for a better situation.
Speaker 1: You ain't hope for a better situation. You got to work.
Speaker 1: What's what's that old saying, Nate put you put put
Speaker 1: your hand, put one hand out and fill it up
Speaker 1: with hope, and put your other hand out and fill
Speaker 1: it up with crap. And you tell me which one
Speaker 1: gets full first. Yes, hope anybody, y'all, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: All right, we started, we started talking about dudude talk.
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Speaker 1: So let's go to before we get into Larry Fitzgerald
Speaker 1: and DeAndre Hopkins brought up Kenyan Drake, what's the running
Speaker 1: game like this year? It's decent, It's decent. I'm just
Speaker 1: hoping there open. You know, Levian Bell, they get him,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go off to charts for this game. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that can use Levian Bell in
Speaker 1: his talents. You know, they just wait for him to
Speaker 1: clear waves. It's gonna be a little bit warm, you know.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Uh, they got an average, nice run game.
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing spectacler about it. I mean, I say
Speaker 1: the tackler about it. It's Murray and he's he's the
Speaker 1: key to the run game, isn't there? Yes, sir? But uh,
Speaker 1: they do hand it off enough to keep you honest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they do hand it off enough to keep you honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah they you know, so not hand it off more
Speaker 1: as far as when you look at attempts, right, they
Speaker 1: they they give him the ball as far as his attempts,
Speaker 1: and it's not, you know, really a lot. But he's
Speaker 1: six in the league right now with eighty five rushing attempts,
Speaker 1: So you know they're they're they're gonna run the ball
Speaker 1: a little bit with him. You know they're gonna They're
Speaker 1: gonna give him an opportunity to run the ball again.
Speaker 1: This is this team is predicated on Kyler Murray. He
Speaker 1: is the engine that makes this Ferrari run. They use
Speaker 1: some of the run game and those RPO actions. He
Speaker 1: passes off that, Uh they want to spread you why
Speaker 1: and gash you. Uh different? So you gotta stay focused here, brother,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta stay just laughing about some You
Speaker 1: gotta stay focused. This is why. This is why I
Speaker 1: never gonna put us on prime time for this reason. Right,
Speaker 1: That's why they never gonna give us these prime time
Speaker 1: out that we be wanting. Man, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: stay professional. But they go, all right, next subject, Man
Speaker 1: we go. I can't. I can't even finish my I
Speaker 1: can't even finish my breakdown. They'll run the ball with
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake when they have to. Yes, Okay, Which ship
Speaker 1: to the real what everybody really wants to know about
Speaker 1: these receivers, Jesse, You said that Larry Fitzgerald was having
Speaker 1: a down year, one of the worst years that you've
Speaker 1: seen him have. What why? Why the drop off? Is
Speaker 1: the age factor catching up to him? Is he still
Speaker 1: running great? Routes. Why why are you seeing his production
Speaker 1: fall off? And he's one hundred and seventy six years old,
Speaker 1: he's an old man. But the thing about and then
Speaker 1: of course you got DeAndre Hopkins. He has forty five receptions.
Speaker 1: Forty five receptions. You know, the next closest person on
Speaker 1: his team, how many they have eighteen? Wow, okay, he does.
Speaker 1: He doesn't drop anything. He does not there getting the
Speaker 1: ball to DeAndre Hopkins. When you have a player like that,
Speaker 1: they are feeding, they are forced feeding him the ball.
Speaker 1: He's forty five catches this year. The next closest guy
Speaker 1: has eight. Team that tells you all you need to
Speaker 1: know why everyone else's productivity is falling around him, because
Speaker 1: they got a bona five full good blood line boy,
Speaker 1: bulldog and DeAndre Hopkins he is just he is everything
Speaker 1: you want in the wide receiver. And even when he's covered,
Speaker 1: he's open. That's just the kind of guy that they have.
Speaker 1: And whether it's short, intermediate, or over the top, he
Speaker 1: can whoop you. And so you know, forty five receptions
Speaker 1: lead to league in receptions right now, I think he
Speaker 1: might even lead the league in yards as well. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's all it's about. And everybody else feeds off that.
Speaker 1: So you know, Christian Kirkin, Larry Fitzgerald, they eat off
Speaker 1: the crumbs left over from from DeAndre Hopkinson. We talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, shutting down and selling out to shut down
Speaker 1: to run that kind of thing. Can you sell out
Speaker 1: to stop him with that? No, at the time, at
Speaker 1: no time, because you don't know when he's gonna run,
Speaker 1: and you don't know when he's gonna pass, So at
Speaker 1: no time. Because against the jet see rush but nine
Speaker 1: times for thirty one yards, but he threw for three
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty yards with sEH rate. I mean he
Speaker 1: good man one TV one interceptions. If you want to
Speaker 1: get him, make him throw from the pocket and throw
Speaker 1: it in the middle of the field. Well, I meant,
Speaker 1: can you sell out to stop Hopkins? Can you do
Speaker 1: whatever you can to take him out out of the
Speaker 1: game and just okay, you're gonna be you know how
Speaker 1: you know how a punter when I mean when they
Speaker 1: got to do punk and the guy lines up outside
Speaker 1: and they put the two vice guys on them. If
Speaker 1: you ain't guard him like that, good luck. So what
Speaker 1: if he did when you line up you gotta play
Speaker 1: cat and mouse with it. With it with it with
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker coming underneath and the safety coming over top,
Speaker 1: you gotta play cat and mouse. Which one of those
Speaker 1: guys gonna help that corner, you know, or the guy
Speaker 1: over the top. But then when he going, if he was,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember seeing him in the slot.
Speaker 1: But this kid can play from anywhere. But that's that's
Speaker 1: that's that's the creativity of um of coach coach Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury is that he lined you up in positions, those bunches,
Speaker 1: those tight formations, the motions. He lined you UPO site,
Speaker 1: You're not he's you're You're not gonna just a line.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be in one place. So it's gonna
Speaker 1: be so hard. You know. It's not like back in
Speaker 1: the day where you know it was twenty one personnel
Speaker 1: and you knew that extraceiver was always going to be
Speaker 1: outside on the ball. It ain't liked that in today's football.
Speaker 1: And you have these young innovative minds where he may
Speaker 1: line up outside the numbers one play, he might line
Speaker 1: up tighten a bunch, he might go in motion, and
Speaker 1: and so they're doing different things with all these receivers
Speaker 1: where it's so tough to get a beat on him.
Speaker 1: That even if you break the huddle and you decide
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it like this, but what happens when
Speaker 1: he goes in motion That throws the count off, That
Speaker 1: throws guys off, Guys getting lost, and you know, in
Speaker 1: the mix, and then at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you're still trying to chase this this this, this this
Speaker 1: little runner in the backfield with the football and Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray and it's that, it's that that second breakdown where
Speaker 1: he finds Now and DeAndre Hopkins, where you had him
Speaker 1: lockdown over here, but then he broke containment and he
Speaker 1: kept moving and now he's one on one with your corner,
Speaker 1: you know, running across the field. It's it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a difficult task in today's football when you have
Speaker 1: an innovative coach to shut one guy down. It's it's
Speaker 1: tough because they don't line them up in one place
Speaker 1: every single time. So we faced you know the Rams
Speaker 1: with with McVeigh and his his schemes. We faced you know,
Speaker 1: the Falcons with Ryan and Julio Jones. We faced the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: You know what they did to us, even even the
Speaker 1: Browns they had a you know, Landry and Beckham. Is
Speaker 1: is this the best receiving corps we face this year?
Speaker 1: Best passing attack we faced this year besides Julio Jones
Speaker 1: if he wouldn't have been hurt obviously, uh no, but
Speaker 1: Hulo Jones were hurt, So yeah, this one guy makes
Speaker 1: that big of a difference. How is that? And DK
Speaker 1: mint Cafe ain't far behind? Bro? This dude is coming
Speaker 1: how how how is it going to? How is Diggs
Speaker 1: gonna match up against Hopkins? Because this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a This is gonna be a beast that he hasn't
Speaker 1: seen yet in his short NFL career? Is he is
Speaker 1: he gonna get eating the line? Dropping the ball? Right?
Speaker 1: I can't dropping the right? This dude ain't driving the
Speaker 1: ball so out? I mean, is this gonna just be
Speaker 1: a nightmare all day long for for Diggs? Because so
Speaker 1: far this year, I don't think the Cowboys have traveled
Speaker 1: cornerbacks from one to shadow or receivers. So do they
Speaker 1: change that up this week and do that or do
Speaker 1: they just stick with the game player they've had. I
Speaker 1: don't think they got anybody that can do that, right, right?
Speaker 1: That's the other problem. You can't. Whatever you do, you can't.
Speaker 1: And maybe you try to sneak a snap or two.
Speaker 1: You can't line anyone on our defense. I don't care
Speaker 1: if it's unless you unless you found a way to
Speaker 1: give prime Tom Machine and you're gonna line up Deon
Speaker 1: Sanders on a ten day contract to come out here
Speaker 1: and defend nineteen nineties Deon Sanders. There's nobody in our
Speaker 1: defense that you can line up one on one with
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and think you're going to have success. It's
Speaker 1: just impossible. There's nobody. You can't. You can't line up
Speaker 1: who's the best corner in the league, Stefan Gilmore? You
Speaker 1: want to do? Uh? The kid White and Buffalo or
Speaker 1: Jayalen Ramsey. Those guys struggle with him and these are
Speaker 1: the top guys. M So what do you think you
Speaker 1: know nothing against? You know, Treymon Diggs. And I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be Debbie Downing, but let's just call facts
Speaker 1: facts like you can't line up against this guy yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't line up? Can't line up? Yeah? Come on now,
Speaker 1: Shirty got trucked? Yeah? Is that what the shirt was? Nate? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Dan say he handed it out two guys, you know,
Speaker 1: we got ran over, got burned real bad, like big
Speaker 1: old long shirt and say home he got trucked. So
Speaker 1: we had a we had a group, a group taxi
Speaker 1: going around and what was that one of the ESPN shows, Jesse, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick. They yeah, they were talking about Dion had
Speaker 1: a shirt that if you got truck like uh Josh
Speaker 1: Norman did by Travi or Derreck, Henry you, Dion made
Speaker 1: you wear a shirt all week and he couldn't remember
Speaker 1: what the shirt said. So Nate, you're saying and said,
Speaker 1: homie got trucked. Yeah, when he got truck that's so great.
Speaker 1: You know what what Dion told me. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he even remember, but you know, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: like this here, man, we need to have that kind
Speaker 1: of shirt for this show. If somebody gets run over
Speaker 1: on this show, you got to wear that shirt the
Speaker 1: next week on the show. Got that mean That means
Speaker 1: Chris Bean might have to be in this suit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chris go out to be in this suit. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you like this right here, great question, great questions, fellas,
Speaker 1: but you know, and Jessea agree with we've already asked
Speaker 1: too much from from Diggs. He it's only a few
Speaker 1: corners could come in his league like Ward did for
Speaker 1: Cleveland a year ago or two years ago and be
Speaker 1: elite like that. You know, we actually the second round pick.
Speaker 1: We had great cover skills, but still learning because he
Speaker 1: didn't play corner his old three years at Bama. So
Speaker 1: we're asking them to learn. And I'm glad that he's
Speaker 1: still psyched and he's still in his mind that he
Speaker 1: lives for the next play. But fellas over a long
Speaker 1: NFL season, you don't want to continue to do that.
Speaker 1: That that I trust me. I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: guys go down up under that flame and they just
Speaker 1: have to float the safety over and that kind of
Speaker 1: thing to help me. Yeah, just safety over the top,
Speaker 1: a linebacker underneath, just something the cotton candy, mister Wallas
Speaker 1: League working security Bret Brett Brown come out there and
Speaker 1: help cover him a calf for something, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: like like you know how you know the NASCAR they
Speaker 1: come in. Everybody merge on it. Workable books, all right.
Speaker 1: We tried to stay away from it, but you guys
Speaker 1: won't stop talking about the defense. Let's let's take our
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Speaker 1: United and we saved the best for last Cowboys defense. Kurt,
Speaker 1: you got all kinds of pro football focused stats and
Speaker 1: rankings and all kinds of good stuff. Throw them out there. Man.
Speaker 1: They got DeMarcus Lawrence listed really high. They've got Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith listed pretty high. I want you to throw some
Speaker 1: of these stats out here in the last ten minutes
Speaker 1: and let the guys give you some feedback. What you got, man?
Speaker 1: Is this overall stats or last week stats? This is overall?
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, Exit, I gotta give a shout out to
Speaker 1: our man Clarence. He listens all the time. He says,
Speaker 1: if we got a shirt, it shouldn't say you got
Speaker 1: chucked it. Said it should say you got snake bit
Speaker 1: so I like it. Said in mind, get a little,
Speaker 1: get a little cobra, kailogo on it. I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it. There you go. Yeah, I was kind
Speaker 1: of shocked to see this that. You know, DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: we've given a lot of criticism because he's being banged up.
Speaker 1: You had a lot of sacks, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Pro Football Focus has him as the fourth
Speaker 1: highest rated defensive edge rusher in the league, which I
Speaker 1: don't know. Do you guys see that? Do you think
Speaker 1: he's played that? Well? What are the cri what's the like,
Speaker 1: what are the criteria, what are they what are they using?
Speaker 1: You know, it's just theird on evaluation of it. And
Speaker 1: they have pasture rush. They have him is one of
Speaker 1: the best UH brought best ends against the rush, which
Speaker 1: helps so but they overall they say he's doing a
Speaker 1: good job. I'm not gonna argue with all of the numbers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a kind of win loss guy. I
Speaker 1: kind of think that when you pay guys like you
Speaker 1: paid number ninety nine, you know that you should get sacks.
Speaker 1: If you look into the stats, you'll see the number
Speaker 1: ninety nine who he got paid comparable to he's leading
Speaker 1: the league in sacks. Yeah, y'all know who, number nine,
Speaker 1: number ninety nine. And Madden he number nine nine, y'all
Speaker 1: know him. We feel, Yeah, so when you get paid
Speaker 1: like that, you should be helping your team determine wins
Speaker 1: and losses. That's what that That is when pro football
Speaker 1: focused on saying guys that have gotten paid, are they
Speaker 1: having their teams in the win lost collar rate them?
Speaker 1: From that point of view, damn yeah, struggle with I'm
Speaker 1: with Nate. I'm with Nate on that one. Like numbers
Speaker 1: say one thing, I pop on the tape, you know,
Speaker 1: and I look at what the tape says, and sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes numbers can be misleading you. You want
Speaker 1: to see more impactful stuff on the field from the
Speaker 1: guy that you pay that kind of money too. And
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily talk always talking about getting the sacks,
Speaker 1: but the sacks are important. You. I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't think Tank has been as disruptive. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's been a part we're saying, man like every week
Speaker 1: we we we don't talk about him, And that's not
Speaker 1: that's not that's not the kind of conversation that you
Speaker 1: want to have with your name at that position. You
Speaker 1: want your name to be brought up in the conversation
Speaker 1: of a football game of you know, in the in
Speaker 1: the right side of it. Yeah, man, look at that pressure.
Speaker 1: He was almost there, bat it down ball, tackle for loss. Oh,
Speaker 1: look at that pressure. We haven't been talking about him
Speaker 1: like that for the majority of the year. So I'm
Speaker 1: not listen. I'm not smart enough. Um I went to
Speaker 1: Carolina and say what you want about our classes and whatnot. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I mean, analytics and analytics and numbers
Speaker 1: are the numbers. But pop on a tape. These bad
Speaker 1: boys don't lie these things right here, These brown eyes
Speaker 1: right here, they don't lie. Wow. Man like that Wow,
Speaker 1: always trying to find a way to pose someway. Let
Speaker 1: the women know his eyes a brown all right away?
Speaker 1: Sell me. I'm always gonna sell me. I'm up for sale.
Speaker 1: What's up? I keep taking out? Man? Go with Google
Speaker 1: Rally Rowley Salarly he may can nice chuck a changing here,
Speaker 1: not say a word a fellow Pam on the serious side,
Speaker 1: isn't this kind of you know, like Kurt said, a
Speaker 1: server shows back. You know, I was so pumped for
Speaker 1: two guys, you know, done Terry and Griffin. You know,
Speaker 1: we just knew without a doubt. Okay, the Mark is
Speaker 1: gonna come in and he gonna be healthy and he
Speaker 1: gonna Hey, we should be looking at right about round
Speaker 1: about four or five sacks minimal at this point, with
Speaker 1: maybe seven or eight hurds and six or seven quarterback hits,
Speaker 1: you know, along with being one of the better run defenders.
Speaker 1: But it is not happed. For some reason, it is
Speaker 1: not happened. And I think, you know, and I'll keep
Speaker 1: saying this because I just you know, and I understand hope, hope.
Speaker 1: Don't do that for most folks, but I hope and
Speaker 1: pray that the middle of our if the middle of
Speaker 1: our defense, can fix itself somehow, some way, all of this.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't even be talking about a lot of this,
Speaker 1: I promise you. But when the middle of your defense
Speaker 1: is not holding up, even wrong, Tyrone Crawford is playing better,
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods is playing better, But we can't depend on
Speaker 1: these guys for maybe thirty snaps we need for the
Speaker 1: other part of this rotation. You know, we've lost Trian here,
Speaker 1: he was flashing. You know, we got Gallimore in there now,
Speaker 1: Gallimore need to learn how to go back to who
Speaker 1: you were Gallimore penetration, getting on the other side of
Speaker 1: you know, don't sit there and catch no guys that
Speaker 1: needs you do that. When you get all season of
Speaker 1: working in the weight room, go go get some folks, Son,
Speaker 1: go get some folks. Do you think Casey Gallimar you know,
Speaker 1: um Donovan Wilson's starting now? Do you think I should
Speaker 1: be moving to these young guys? I would? What's the
Speaker 1: different three hundred yards? It's three hundred yards. But if
Speaker 1: I got some young guys given effort and learning and
Speaker 1: you can see him, yeah, you know. But when you
Speaker 1: ain't got no no, I mean you you're doing it
Speaker 1: with guys and I am not. He possibly gonna be
Speaker 1: here next year. The officeive line is moving to young guys.
Speaker 1: They're not the best, but they're getting out. But hey,
Speaker 1: next year, if you draft a better guy, man, you
Speaker 1: got a value. But backup in this same don't have
Speaker 1: a choice offensive line. They don't have a choice defensive
Speaker 1: line line. Don't I want to argue that, don't. I
Speaker 1: don't remember this conversation from a year or two ago
Speaker 1: where we were debating on hey, do you just go
Speaker 1: play the young guys, because what's the difference? I said
Speaker 1: it back again, Yes, sir, right, play these young guys
Speaker 1: so you don't have to go in a year in
Speaker 1: the year out. But it's tough when you when you
Speaker 1: talk about playing five and six young guys, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of youth and a lot of hundred yards Russian.
Speaker 1: Tell me that from a young guy and the old guy.
Speaker 1: Y'all Russian? Of y'alls Russian? Here? Wait? Wait, what is today?
Speaker 1: October fifteenth, Thursday fifteenth? It is one thirteen pm in
Speaker 1: the afternoon. Jesse, Holly does not have an argument? Mark
Speaker 1: it down being put it on the calendar. Brother, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, Jesse. You know I'm right. You
Speaker 1: know what. Listen, brother, what I just say? I have
Speaker 1: no argument? What is man? Because I'm bounding down to
Speaker 1: I don't never want you not to have argument, but
Speaker 1: I don't have one. You made a solid point once
Speaker 1: in the lifetime. You got a solid point. Now, don't
Speaker 1: make me find an argument argument I'm giving you. I'm
Speaker 1: giving you the point. You made a solid Pointachi and
Speaker 1: just ride off. Hey, Jesse, n Nate Nate just curted you.
Speaker 1: You know he does that to Kurt all the time.
Speaker 1: Kurtlby says the exact same ain't saying that Nate said,
Speaker 1: And Nate just wants to argue, so he'll argue the
Speaker 1: same point, but he makes Kurt look like he's not
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. So you just got curted. He
Speaker 1: just curted you, man, you got you told me all right, Fellas,
Speaker 1: This was a hell of a way to end the show.
Speaker 1: But we gotta go tomorrow. We'll play nice, not nice.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about keys to the game. I'm will come
Speaker 1: up with something crazy that I don't know. I want
Speaker 1: to get to know y'all better, so I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: up with some kind of game. Chris Bean, we might
Speaker 1: in that room yesterday. Man, when when Shannon showed me
Speaker 1: man boy, he called me all type of nice names. Man,
Speaker 1: I should did it'd been too lost as that senior person. Man,
Speaker 1: you were a lot sexier than I thought you used
Speaker 1: to be. Let I remember, all right, Fellas, Nate, thanks
Speaker 1: to get used to it, Kurt, nice, great pull over
Speaker 1: you got on to day. Jess Hey, cow looking good,
Speaker 1: keep looking good. Christ Be thanks for keeping us on
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