WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Containment Needed

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Blowing out of the

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<v Speaker 1>backfield ex flooding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys,

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Windstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts,

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Here

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<v Speaker 1>we are. It is Thursday. Welcome to the Thursday, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the day before Friday. Jes you keeping score edition

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<v Speaker 1>of Hanging with the Boys Live from the s WBC

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan's living room at Fresco, Texas. Shannon Gross, Nate Newton,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Holly, Kurt Daniels shout out to wing Stop for

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<v Speaker 1>this poster that I'm going to get some hardware to

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<v Speaker 1>hang it today, so hopefully tomorrow that will be on

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<v Speaker 1>my wall and I don't have to do that ridiculousness.

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<v Speaker 1>At the beginning of the show, Chris bean Man and

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<v Speaker 1>the board keeping us looking good and sounding good. And

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Newton has been extra extra extra quiet in our

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<v Speaker 1>pregame chat. We don't know why he's scheming. He's scheming something, Nate, Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you what are you thinking about today? Great job,

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<v Speaker 1>great job fellas, you got you gotta college. Jason Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>impression you got a collared shirt on today. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking good, Like, what's going on? Why are you

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<v Speaker 1>being weird? Why are you being weird? No? No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just being quiet. Because yesterday we did a show

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<v Speaker 1>me and you with broadness and and uh and and

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<v Speaker 1>what's my man? Uhrge team old team was George c

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<v Speaker 1>the Professor. It was just an enjoyable show man to

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<v Speaker 1>see everybody like we did yesterday, to see everybody just

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<v Speaker 1>coming to the fold of Nate Newton. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying at the new quarterback just just I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just at peace. Okay, did you catch what he said?

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<v Speaker 1>He said it was such an enjoyable show. So what

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<v Speaker 1>he basically is saying is he was on this show

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<v Speaker 1>for three days and finally on the third day that

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<v Speaker 1>at night, he was on an enjoyable show this week. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all. That's all nonsense. Okay. He showed that every

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<v Speaker 1>single day, excited to see us, and even if he

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be here, they pay him to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>so he got to show up one way or another.

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<v Speaker 1>So he can just say whatever he wanted about what

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<v Speaker 1>other show was enjoyable. This is where it's at. Hey, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I also told him, I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>can best rest the show. I'm gonna hustle on this

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<v Speaker 1>show and show. You gotta worry about my execution base

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<v Speaker 1>but all I got. Let go, let's do it. So

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<v Speaker 1>so many things to get to today. We're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>the the What do we do with Cowboys defense? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals offense? Yeah? There we go that, right, Cowgos defense, defense,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what we want. Let's go. Let's let get

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<v Speaker 1>to our subject. There. I was gonna say, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want defense. We don't even know. Maybe we just don't

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<v Speaker 1>even do that. Maybe we just do Cardinals offense the

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<v Speaker 1>whole show. Let's get started with. Let's get stared Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it, y'all. Nate, didn't you tell me that

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<v Speaker 1>you saw him play his first high school game here? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I did, and uh yeah, man, he he

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<v Speaker 1>a beast. I mean he allegend through over ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>yards I think one year at fifty four touchdown. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the game's a legend, man. I mean he's up

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<v Speaker 1>there in the best in the state of Texas. Man

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<v Speaker 1>with the Drew reasons and all those other guys, the

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Campbells. He's all these guys were high school legends

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<v Speaker 1>and he was one two. He never lost the high

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<v Speaker 1>school game, Jesse. This dude was nice. Is he more

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<v Speaker 1>of a threat now running or passing? If you let

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<v Speaker 1>this kid sit back then and pick you apart throwing

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<v Speaker 1>and he can do it. And if you let him run,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely over because you don't know what's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>him then. So he's very He's very Russell Wilson esque.

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<v Speaker 1>When he leaves the pocket to throw the ball down

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<v Speaker 1>the field. He has that type of ability, mobility, and

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<v Speaker 1>accuracy when he leaves the pocket rolling either way now,

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<v Speaker 1>right or left. If he gets outside and break containment

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<v Speaker 1>and he got some dogs, man, he got he got

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<v Speaker 1>the He got one of the greatest receivers of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>In my book, one of my favorites, Liar Fitzgerald. He

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<v Speaker 1>has Christian Kirk who as a speechter, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>has probably arguably the best receiver in the game right

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<v Speaker 1>now and DeAndre oh whoa yeah, yeah denied. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a way to make Murray one dimensional? Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>way to make him one miss when you pass rush him.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to come at him in a wall whale,

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<v Speaker 1>as they would say, And you have to And when

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<v Speaker 1>you go to tack, don't miss. You rather not tackle

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<v Speaker 1>him and stay in front of him and make him

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<v Speaker 1>stop his feet. Then to going and make him move

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd take off. Then he becomes extra extra dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>on the head. Yeah, you got him. Make Colin Murray

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<v Speaker 1>stop his feet. Yeah, when he drops back in the pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>he likes to keep his feet moving. And he's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of player that you want in the pocket. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather him throw from the pocket because of the height limitations.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's not as accurate in the pocket from the

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<v Speaker 1>pocket as he is when he breaks containment and get

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<v Speaker 1>it's outside of the tackles. But Nate said the exact phrase,

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<v Speaker 1>the set of words. Stop his feet. If you get

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<v Speaker 1>his feet stopped, if you make him be flat footed,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have a chance to win. If you do not,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's able to keep them happy feet back then

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<v Speaker 1>and he's able to move around, old buddy. So is

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<v Speaker 1>this how the Everson Griffin and DeMarcus the defensive ends?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it on those everybody? This is all four or

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<v Speaker 1>five guys. You can't be willing in it this week.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to be under control. It's only two or

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<v Speaker 1>three guys in this league that can make you pay

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<v Speaker 1>from from that quarterback position. I'm talking about pure runners

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<v Speaker 1>as Lamar, his kid here, Russell and yes, Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>They will make you pay for uneven pass Russian? How

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<v Speaker 1>does he get out of your lane? Yeah? How does

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<v Speaker 1>he affect? How does he affected the deep line? I

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<v Speaker 1>know you said. Does it make them hesitate a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and not fire off the ball as much because

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<v Speaker 1>they're afraid of over pursuing or penetrating too deep and

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<v Speaker 1>then losing containment. Does it make you slow down a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit as a defensive line, our defensive ends, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes them maybe slow down and stay in their lanes. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>be more disciplined in their lanes out the inside, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>just do what you've been doing. Nothing, No, they no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is pushed forward, Jesse. You're gonna stop with that

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<v Speaker 1>negative ism. That's well, what have they done with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm gonna send you the film that I watched,

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<v Speaker 1>and you send me the film that you watch, and

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe we see something different on some of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop get you some of this, Okay? But here's here's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing about Colin Murray and and and meates absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>Our defensive ends. You hear it all the time. You

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<v Speaker 1>got to be able to keep your leverage. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not the game or the quarterback to play

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<v Speaker 1>hero ball in. This is not the quarterback that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go and be all doing your thing and

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<v Speaker 1>when you're supposed to be outside, you try to be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy inside. This is not that game. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not that game. I promise you there will be other

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<v Speaker 1>games in the season and other quarterbacks in the season

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<v Speaker 1>that you will be able to break discipline and to

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<v Speaker 1>break protocol and to do all those things and still

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<v Speaker 1>have success Monday night against that jitterbug. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. You cannot do it because he is

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<v Speaker 1>going to make you look back at and when he

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<v Speaker 1>does that again. He's not throwing to some jags. He

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<v Speaker 1>ain't throwing to some guys who ain't got no skins

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall. He's thalking. He's thrown into a first

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<v Speaker 1>ballot Hall of Famer who's probably one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>route runners in NFL history. He's throwing it to a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who no matter if you put two guys on him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still open and then he's playing with the speech

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<v Speaker 1>stir So if these dbs think getting your eyes in

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield, trying to cheat, trying to do different things

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<v Speaker 1>like this, you are going to pay. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>the game for you to go out there and try

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing your own thing hero ball, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>diving in when you should be out, being out when

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to be in, not in your lanes, not

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<v Speaker 1>doing you're supposed to doing. I promise you this is

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<v Speaker 1>not This is not the quarterback for this. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not the team for this. This ain't the head coach

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<v Speaker 1>from this. And I promise you I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>sleep number bed he has. I don't care how clear

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<v Speaker 1>I visioned view he got. Your boy, Jalen is having

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<v Speaker 1>trouble sleeping this week. You see, he had a great

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<v Speaker 1>game plan last week. He went up against the great

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<v Speaker 1>Grayson Garrett, who doesn't do much shifting and motioning and

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<v Speaker 1>bunch formations. Jason Garrett is a straight up and down

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy. Like a pencil, straight up and down.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna line up a number two pencil. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>bring it to the scant for the scantron and He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna line up, straight up and down and come at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa not coach bro not old Cliffy, Cliff Cliffy gonna

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<v Speaker 1>motion the motion. He gonna bunch the bunch. He gonna

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<v Speaker 1>flip and swap. And that is the one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>has beat the living daylights out of Jayleen Smith all

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<v Speaker 1>year long. When he has been getting his eyes in

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield and guys have been moving and shifting, he

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<v Speaker 1>has not been able to keep up with that. He

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<v Speaker 1>has not been able to figure that stuff out just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why one of the reasons why he had a

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<v Speaker 1>great game last week because it was right in front

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<v Speaker 1>of him. There was no there was no if as

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<v Speaker 1>a butts about it, and he went to the football.

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<v Speaker 1>You won't have that this week. You will have guys moving, flipping, turning,

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<v Speaker 1>shaking and doing all other color stuff that they can

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<v Speaker 1>do with Cliff Kingsbury at the Helm. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people have questioned, Kingsbury, do you like what he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>out there? I like his play calling, I like his

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<v Speaker 1>play designing. I should say his play designing. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who can get guys open, can run some creative plays.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're now starting to get into a little groove.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Colin Murray. He has a bona fide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I think he is one of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>where it's going to His style hasn't fully taken over

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<v Speaker 1>the league yet, but he's being able to create some

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<v Speaker 1>confusion and they're playing some good football this year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of surprised because he's got kind of

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<v Speaker 1>this running gun attack. But they're we talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>some yesterday. Their time of possession is I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine minutes, so I mean it's they're they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>what I guess the Cowboys need to do and that

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<v Speaker 1>they're moving it quick but racking up the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>tell's right here, man, it's gonna be a very exciting

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<v Speaker 1>game to watch. Man, this kid is coming home, and

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<v Speaker 1>if we can get him early, get a pick or

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<v Speaker 1>something early, you know, when he's before he settled down,

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<v Speaker 1>because he'll be just a touch punk for this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a Monday night coming home to dive. Big twelve championship,

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<v Speaker 1>three state championships. You know, he'll be a little geek.

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<v Speaker 1>If we can catch him early and make it make

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<v Speaker 1>something bad happen, it'll go a long ways. But if

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<v Speaker 1>this kids settle down and realize, like okay, back at

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<v Speaker 1>the crib, just like it back An Allen, it could

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<v Speaker 1>be a long day, long day, Nate. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>see in from their offensive line? What kind of not

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line do they have? Nice? They got they nice?

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<v Speaker 1>They Sean Coogler is the offensive line coach. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know its history, but these guys are nice. Uh kind

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<v Speaker 1>of technique sound get on their guys seem to know

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<v Speaker 1>their assignments and with everything spread out, it ain't a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot to read. They can see where most blitzes

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<v Speaker 1>are coming from. They're pretty good. I mean, they can

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<v Speaker 1>be beat, but he's gonna but you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>work them all game long and set them up. You

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<v Speaker 1>know they got sweezy. They got from from Seattle a

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<v Speaker 1>few years back. So you know he ain't the great

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, but he's strong and he's physical. Here be

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<v Speaker 1>lumbering right guard, but he does his job. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just say, legs right here, Shannon, this is another team

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<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys can beat. But the Cowboys have to

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<v Speaker 1>play mistake free every time you get the ball back

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<v Speaker 1>to Kyla mur excuse me, it could be. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be a death sentence. I mean because he could score

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<v Speaker 1>legs hand I mean legs arms he got the receivers

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<v Speaker 1>running backs are not bad and Kenyan Drake and what's

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<v Speaker 1>the other kid name? I can't think of his name. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not bad, man, I mean I chase that much. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not bad. They're a good solid Uh seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be technique sounds, seem to not get a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of bad penalties. So they played with and then the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback makes you offen his line look even better. His

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<v Speaker 1>willingness to get out of trouble and not take not

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<v Speaker 1>take a loss. And that is what we have to

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<v Speaker 1>do on other side of the ball too. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>take losses. That has hurt Cowboys. Third and long miss

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<v Speaker 1>third and long. That first down is so key in

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<v Speaker 1>this game. If we can stay ahead of the chains

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<v Speaker 1>and I ain't Tibbou just running up in there slamming.

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<v Speaker 1>You're heading to a wall. But getting that ball going forward,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Uh, it's gonna be a nice game. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to our scoring and how low scoring,

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<v Speaker 1>but this kid coming in here to show everybody with Texas, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>with Texas been missing the last few years. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a quick question for you guys, for for Kurt, for Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>and for Shannon. So reports are and Mike McCarthy said

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<v Speaker 1>that Layton Vanderesh has been active this week, full participant

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<v Speaker 1>in practice yesterday, will be again today, and then he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be getting some hitting in on Friday. Coming into this game,

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<v Speaker 1>do you go with Layton Vanderesh and Joe Thomas or

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<v Speaker 1>do you kick Joe Thomas off the field and go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Layton Van Dress and Jalen Smith? Or do

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<v Speaker 1>you stay with Jalen Smith and Joe Thomas and you

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<v Speaker 1>work lating Van drsh In there sprang way throughout the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he had a broke collar bone. He does

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<v Speaker 1>what they're talking about. He might be able to play Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. I hope they only play him

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<v Speaker 1>if he's ready. I mean, I ain't for them to

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<v Speaker 1>rush him back and then they're losing even longer. But

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<v Speaker 1>if the trainers ain't gonna go for that, did we

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<v Speaker 1>know these guys, Yester, they you know it ain't no

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<v Speaker 1>collar bone. It's just know in the world a linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>a middle linebacker who leaves with his upper body all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Something ain't write in this picture, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>they and I promise you they ain't letting him back

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<v Speaker 1>out on that field. Jim marred him. Got they ain't

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<v Speaker 1>letting him. If he ain't ready, they ain't letting him.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe some missed something. If he is ready, then

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<v Speaker 1>they got to play him, don't they. I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>have to play. Yeah, you have no other Chan and

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<v Speaker 1>Van dress out, you know, Jess Jesse, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna drive me absolutely insane is if he gets

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<v Speaker 1>on the field and all of a sudden, your linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>and your secondary start playing like a different team. When

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<v Speaker 1>you have you know, you lose Sean Lee and we

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<v Speaker 1>forget how to play defense. You lose Layton vander Esh.

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<v Speaker 1>Your defense looks completely different. You know, we've had that,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen that, we've read this book before. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make me lose my mind. If he gets out there

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<v Speaker 1>and they know they know where to line up, they

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<v Speaker 1>know assignment football, they they're they're able to not blow coverages.

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<v Speaker 1>That that is gonna make me lose my mind. I

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<v Speaker 1>think if he's ready to go, I think you play

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<v Speaker 1>him in Jalen because I think Jaalen plays very complimentary football.

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<v Speaker 1>When Layton is out on the field. When when Jalen's

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<v Speaker 1>the the guy, I don't think he's quite as good

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<v Speaker 1>is Layton. And if he's, if he's physically ready to

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<v Speaker 1>go and can take the snap count, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>play those two together. I love Joe Thomas. I love

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<v Speaker 1>what Joe Thomas does, but I think Joe Thomas is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better when he has, you know, a few

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<v Speaker 1>less snaps than what he's been taken. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>roll out there with jay Len and Layton, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it's going to make me, it's gonna drive

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<v Speaker 1>me nuts. Yes, this looks like a different unit. Jes

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<v Speaker 1>If you can tell me that the middle of Devon's

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<v Speaker 1>line it's gonna play on the line of scrimmage, pressing

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<v Speaker 1>towards the other line of scrimmage, I'll go with Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>I go with Shannon. But if you're telling me that

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be the same old pushback thing, what makes

0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.359
<v Speaker 1>you think it's gonna change. What you think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>change in week six and ain't been and ain't it

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<v Speaker 1>ain't happened in five weeks? Well, many think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>change in week six or week seven or whatever. He

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<v Speaker 1>because the player plan, hoping a plan, hoping the plan

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<v Speaker 1>but so but so soldiers like turn them. If hope

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<v Speaker 1>is your strategy, I'm gonna tell your butt up every

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<v Speaker 1>single time. If if hope is your strategy, you went.

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<v Speaker 1>You went in the world to try. Remember I went

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<v Speaker 1>three and thirteen and I went to hoping for a

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<v Speaker 1>better situation, and three he went working for a better situation.

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<v Speaker 1>What you went for, You went working for a better situation.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't hope for a better situation. You got to work.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's that old saying, Nate put you put put

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<v Speaker 1>your hand, put one hand out and fill it up

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<v Speaker 1>with hope, and put your other hand out and fill

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<v Speaker 1>it up with crap. And you tell me which one

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<v Speaker 1>gets full first. Yes, hope anybody, y'all, I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we started, we started talking about dudude talk.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta take a break. We got to get this

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<v Speaker 1>thing about all right, we come back, Let's talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little more Cardinals offense, maybe a little bit of Cowboys defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe some other stuff that we don't even know about.

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<v Speaker 1>next segment. I lost you guys on our rendezvous, so

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go to before we get into Larry Fitzgerald

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<v Speaker 1>and DeAndre Hopkins brought up Kenyan Drake, what's the running

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<v Speaker 1>game like this year? It's decent, It's decent. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>hoping there open. You know, Levian Bell, they get him,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna go off to charts for this game. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams that can use Levian Bell in

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<v Speaker 1>his talents. You know, they just wait for him to

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<v Speaker 1>clear waves. It's gonna be a little bit warm, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Uh, they got an average, nice run game.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't nothing spectacler about it. I mean, I say

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<v Speaker 1>the tackler about it. It's Murray and he's he's the

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<v Speaker 1>key to the run game, isn't there? Yes, sir? But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they do hand it off enough to keep you honest. Yeah,

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 1>they do hand it off enough to keep you honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they you know, so not hand it off more

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<v Speaker 1>as far as when you look at attempts, right, they

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<v Speaker 1>they they give him the ball as far as his attempts,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not, you know, really a lot. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>six in the league right now with eighty five rushing attempts,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know they're they're they're gonna run the ball

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit with him. You know they're gonna They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give him an opportunity to run the ball again.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this team is predicated on Kyler Murray. He

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<v Speaker 1>is the engine that makes this Ferrari run. They use

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<v Speaker 1>some of the run game and those RPO actions. He

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<v Speaker 1>passes off that, Uh they want to spread you why

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<v Speaker 1>and gash you. Uh different? So you gotta stay focused here, brother,

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you gotta you gotta stay just laughing about some You

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta stay focused. This is why. This is why I

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna put us on prime time for this reason. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they never gonna give us these prime time

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<v Speaker 1>out that we be wanting. Man, we gotta we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>stay professional. But they go, all right, next subject, Man

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<v Speaker 1>we go. I can't. I can't even finish my I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even finish my breakdown. They'll run the ball with

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<v Speaker 1>Kenyan Drake when they have to. Yes, Okay, Which ship

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<v Speaker 1>to the real what everybody really wants to know about

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<v Speaker 1>these receivers, Jesse, You said that Larry Fitzgerald was having

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<v Speaker 1>a down year, one of the worst years that you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him have. What why? Why the drop off? Is

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<v Speaker 1>the age factor catching up to him? Is he still

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<v Speaker 1>running great? Routes. Why why are you seeing his production

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<v Speaker 1>fall off? And he's one hundred and seventy six years old,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an old man. But the thing about and then

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<v Speaker 1>of course you got DeAndre Hopkins. He has forty five receptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty five receptions. You know, the next closest person on

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<v Speaker 1>his team, how many they have eighteen? Wow, okay, he does.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't drop anything. He does not there getting the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to DeAndre Hopkins. When you have a player like that,

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<v Speaker 1>they are feeding, they are forced feeding him the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>He's forty five catches this year. The next closest guy

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<v Speaker 1>has eight. Team that tells you all you need to

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<v Speaker 1>know why everyone else's productivity is falling around him, because

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<v Speaker 1>they got a bona five full good blood line boy,

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<v Speaker 1>bulldog and DeAndre Hopkins he is just he is everything

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<v Speaker 1>you want in the wide receiver. And even when he's covered,

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.439
<v Speaker 1>he's open. That's just the kind of guy that they have.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether it's short, intermediate, or over the top, he

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<v Speaker 1>can whoop you. And so you know, forty five receptions

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<v Speaker 1>lead to league in receptions right now, I think he

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>might even lead the league in yards as well. Uh,

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that's all it's about. And everybody else feeds off that.

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>So you know, Christian Kirkin, Larry Fitzgerald, they eat off

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the crumbs left over from from DeAndre Hopkinson. We talk about,

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, shutting down and selling out to shut down

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 1>to run that kind of thing. Can you sell out

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to stop him with that? No, at the time, at

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.640
<v Speaker 1>no time, because you don't know when he's gonna run,

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and you don't know when he's gonna pass, So at

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:41.160
<v Speaker 1>no time. Because against the jet see rush but nine

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 1>times for thirty one yards, but he threw for three

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty yards with sEH rate. I mean he

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 1>good man one TV one interceptions. If you want to

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>get him, make him throw from the pocket and throw

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 1>it in the middle of the field. Well, I meant,

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>can you sell out to stop Hopkins? Can you do

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>whatever you can to take him out out of the

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>game and just okay, you're gonna be you know how

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you know how a punter when I mean when they

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>got to do punk and the guy lines up outside

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>and they put the two vice guys on them. If

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you ain't guard him like that, good luck. So what

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 1>if he did when you line up you gotta play

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>cat and mouse with it. With it with it with

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the outside linebacker coming underneath and the safety coming over top,

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you gotta play cat and mouse. Which one of those

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>guys gonna help that corner, you know, or the guy

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>over the top. But then when he going, if he was,

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't remember seeing him in the slot.

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>But this kid can play from anywhere. But that's that's

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the creativity of um of coach coach Cliff

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Kingsbury is that he lined you up in positions, those bunches,

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>those tight formations, the motions. He lined you UPO site,

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not he's you're You're not gonna just a line.

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be in one place. So it's gonna

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>be so hard. You know. It's not like back in

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the day where you know it was twenty one personnel

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and you knew that extraceiver was always going to be

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>outside on the ball. It ain't liked that in today's football.

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>And you have these young innovative minds where he may

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>line up outside the numbers one play, he might line

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>up tighten a bunch, he might go in motion, and

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and so they're doing different things with all these receivers

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>where it's so tough to get a beat on him.

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>That even if you break the huddle and you decide

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do it like this, but what happens when

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 1>he goes in motion That throws the count off, That

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>throws guys off, Guys getting lost, and you know, in

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the mix, and then at the end of the day,

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you're still trying to chase this this this, this this

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>little runner in the backfield with the football and Kyler

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Murray and it's that, it's that that second breakdown where

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>he finds Now and DeAndre Hopkins, where you had him

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>lockdown over here, but then he broke containment and he

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>kept moving and now he's one on one with your corner,

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, running across the field. It's it's it's a

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a difficult task in today's football when you have

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>an innovative coach to shut one guy down. It's it's

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>tough because they don't line them up in one place

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>every single time. So we faced you know the Rams

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>with with McVeigh and his his schemes. We faced you know,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the Falcons with Ryan and Julio Jones. We faced the Seahawks.

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>You know what they did to us, even even the

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Browns they had a you know, Landry and Beckham. Is

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>is this the best receiving corps we face this year?

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Best passing attack we faced this year besides Julio Jones

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>if he wouldn't have been hurt obviously, uh no, but

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Hulo Jones were hurt, So yeah, this one guy makes

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>that big of a difference. How is that? And DK

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>mint Cafe ain't far behind? Bro? This dude is coming

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>how how how is it going to? How is Diggs

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna match up against Hopkins? Because this is gonna be

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>a This is gonna be a beast that he hasn't

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>seen yet in his short NFL career? Is he is

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>he gonna get eating the line? Dropping the ball? Right?

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't dropping the right? This dude ain't driving the

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>ball so out? I mean, is this gonna just be

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>a nightmare all day long for for Diggs? Because so

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>far this year, I don't think the Cowboys have traveled

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>cornerbacks from one to shadow or receivers. So do they

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>change that up this week and do that or do

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>they just stick with the game player they've had. I

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think they got anybody that can do that, right, right?

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>That's the other problem. You can't. Whatever you do, you can't.

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And maybe you try to sneak a snap or two.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>You can't line anyone on our defense. I don't care

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>if it's unless you unless you found a way to

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>give prime Tom Machine and you're gonna line up Deon

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Sanders on a ten day contract to come out here

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and defend nineteen nineties Deon Sanders. There's nobody in our

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>defense that you can line up one on one with

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Hopkins and think you're going to have success. It's

0:30:56.400 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>just impossible. There's nobody. You can't. You can't line up

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>who's the best corner in the league, Stefan Gilmore? You

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>want to do? Uh? The kid White and Buffalo or

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Jayalen Ramsey. Those guys struggle with him and these are

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the top guys. M So what do you think you

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>know nothing against? You know, Treymon Diggs. And I'm not

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to be Debbie Downing, but let's just call facts

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>facts like you can't line up against this guy yet. Yeah,

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't line up? Can't line up? Yeah? Come on now,

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Shirty got trucked? Yeah? Is that what the shirt was? Nate? Yeah?

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Dan say he handed it out two guys, you know,

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>we got ran over, got burned real bad, like big

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>old long shirt and say home he got trucked. So

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>we had a we had a group, a group taxi

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>going around and what was that one of the ESPN shows, Jesse, Yeah, yeah,

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Lewis Riddick. They yeah, they were talking about Dion had

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a shirt that if you got truck like uh Josh

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Norman did by Travi or Derreck, Henry you, Dion made

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you wear a shirt all week and he couldn't remember

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>what the shirt said. So Nate, you're saying and said,

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>homie got trucked. Yeah, when he got truck that's so great.

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>You know what what Dion told me. I don't know

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>if he even remember, but you know, I'll tell you

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>like this here, man, we need to have that kind

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>of shirt for this show. If somebody gets run over

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>on this show, you got to wear that shirt the

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>next week on the show. Got that mean That means

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Chris Bean might have to be in this suit. Yeah,

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Chris go out to be in this suit. But I'm

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you like this right here, great question, great questions, fellas,

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:54.719
<v Speaker 1>but you know, and Jessea agree with we've already asked

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>too much from from Diggs. He it's only a few

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>corners could come in his league like Ward did for

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland a year ago or two years ago and be

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>elite like that. You know, we actually the second round pick.

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>We had great cover skills, but still learning because he

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't play corner his old three years at Bama. So

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>we're asking them to learn. And I'm glad that he's

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>still psyched and he's still in his mind that he

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>lives for the next play. But fellas over a long

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>NFL season, you don't want to continue to do that.

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>That that I trust me. I've seen a lot of

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.239
<v Speaker 1>guys go down up under that flame and they just

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>have to float the safety over and that kind of

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>thing to help me. Yeah, just safety over the top,

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker underneath, just something the cotton candy, mister Wallas

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>League working security Bret Brett Brown come out there and

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>help cover him a calf for something, you know, you know,

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>like like you know how you know the NASCAR they

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>come in. Everybody merge on it. Workable books, all right.

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>We tried to stay away from it, but you guys

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>won't stop talking about the defense. Let's let's take our

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 1>last break and if we have to, I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 1>you got all kinds of pro football focused stats and

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<v Speaker 1>rankings and all kinds of good stuff. Throw them out there. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>They got DeMarcus Lawrence listed really high. They've got Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Smith listed pretty high. I want you to throw some

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of these stats out here in the last ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and let the guys give you some feedback. What you got, man?

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Is this overall stats or last week stats? This is overall?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually yeah, Exit, I gotta give a shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>our man Clarence. He listens all the time. He says,

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>if we got a shirt, it shouldn't say you got

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>chucked it. Said it should say you got snake bit

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>so I like it. Said in mind, get a little,

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>get a little cobra, kailogo on it. I like it.

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I like it. There you go. Yeah, I was kind

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>of shocked to see this that. You know, DeMarcus Lawrence,

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>we've given a lot of criticism because he's being banged up.

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>You had a lot of sacks, that sort of thing.

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Pro Football Focus has him as the fourth

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>highest rated defensive edge rusher in the league, which I

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:58.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Do you guys see that? Do you think

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>he's played that? Well? What are the cri what's the like,

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>what are the criteria, what are they what are they using?

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just theird on evaluation of it. And

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>they have pasture rush. They have him is one of

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 1>the best UH brought best ends against the rush, which

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>helps so but they overall they say he's doing a

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:22.919
<v Speaker 1>good job. I'm not gonna argue with all of the numbers. Yeah,

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm a kind of win loss guy. I

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of think that when you pay guys like you

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>paid number ninety nine, you know that you should get sacks.

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.280
<v Speaker 1>If you look into the stats, you'll see the number

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.879
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine who he got paid comparable to he's leading

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<v Speaker 1>the league in sacks. Yeah, y'all know who, number nine,

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<v Speaker 1>number ninety nine. And Madden he number nine nine, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>know him. We feel, Yeah, so when you get paid

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you should be helping your team determine wins

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and losses. That's what that That is when pro football

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<v Speaker 1>focused on saying guys that have gotten paid, are they

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<v Speaker 1>having their teams in the win lost collar rate them?

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<v Speaker 1>From that point of view, damn yeah, struggle with I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with Nate. I'm with Nate on that one. Like numbers

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<v Speaker 1>say one thing, I pop on the tape, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at what the tape says, and sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes numbers can be misleading you. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to see more impactful stuff on the field from the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that you pay that kind of money too. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not necessarily talk always talking about getting the sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>but the sacks are important. You. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Tank has been as disruptive. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's been a part we're saying, man like every week

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<v Speaker 1>we we we don't talk about him, And that's not

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not the kind of conversation that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to have with your name at that position. You

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<v Speaker 1>want your name to be brought up in the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>of a football game of you know, in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the right side of it. Yeah, man, look at that pressure.

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>He was almost there, bat it down ball, tackle for loss. Oh,

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>look at that pressure. We haven't been talking about him

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<v Speaker 1>like that for the majority of the year. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not listen. I'm not smart enough. Um I went to

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina and say what you want about our classes and whatnot. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I mean, analytics and analytics and numbers

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<v Speaker 1>are the numbers. But pop on a tape. These bad

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<v Speaker 1>boys don't lie these things right here, These brown eyes

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<v Speaker 1>right here, they don't lie. Wow. Man like that Wow,

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 1>always trying to find a way to pose someway. Let

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the women know his eyes a brown all right away?

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Sell me. I'm always gonna sell me. I'm up for sale.

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>What's up? I keep taking out? Man? Go with Google

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Rally Rowley Salarly he may can nice chuck a changing here,

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<v Speaker 1>not say a word a fellow Pam on the serious side,

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>isn't this kind of you know, like Kurt said, a

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<v Speaker 1>server shows back. You know, I was so pumped for

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>two guys, you know, done Terry and Griffin. You know,

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.320
<v Speaker 1>we just knew without a doubt. Okay, the Mark is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come in and he gonna be healthy and he

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna Hey, we should be looking at right about round

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<v Speaker 1>about four or five sacks minimal at this point, with

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe seven or eight hurds and six or seven quarterback hits,

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, along with being one of the better run defenders.

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>But it is not happed. For some reason, it is

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<v Speaker 1>not happened. And I think, you know, and I'll keep

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>saying this because I just you know, and I understand hope, hope.

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't do that for most folks, but I hope and

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<v Speaker 1>pray that the middle of our if the middle of

0:41:56.160 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>our defense, can fix itself somehow, some way, all of this.

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't even be talking about a lot of this,

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I promise you. But when the middle of your defense

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<v Speaker 1>is not holding up, even wrong, Tyrone Crawford is playing better,

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Antoine Woods is playing better, But we can't depend on

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<v Speaker 1>these guys for maybe thirty snaps we need for the

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>other part of this rotation. You know, we've lost Trian here,

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>he was flashing. You know, we got Gallimore in there now,

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Gallimore need to learn how to go back to who

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you were Gallimore penetration, getting on the other side of

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't sit there and catch no guys that

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 1>needs you do that. When you get all season of

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<v Speaker 1>working in the weight room, go go get some folks, Son,

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 1>go get some folks. Do you think Casey Gallimar you know,

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:50.280
<v Speaker 1>um Donovan Wilson's starting now? Do you think I should

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>be moving to these young guys? I would? What's the

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>different three hundred yards? It's three hundred yards. But if

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I got some young guys given effort and learning and

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>you can see him, yeah, you know. But when you

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>ain't got no no, I mean you you're doing it

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>with guys and I am not. He possibly gonna be

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 1>here next year. The officeive line is moving to young guys.

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>They're not the best, but they're getting out. But hey,

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>next year, if you draft a better guy, man, you

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 1>got a value. But backup in this same don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a choice offensive line. They don't have a choice defensive

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>line line. Don't I want to argue that, don't. I

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.760
<v Speaker 1>don't remember this conversation from a year or two ago

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>where we were debating on hey, do you just go

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 1>play the young guys, because what's the difference? I said

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>it back again, Yes, sir, right, play these young guys

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to go in a year in

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the year out. But it's tough when you when you

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>talk about playing five and six young guys, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of youth and a lot of hundred yards Russian.

0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Tell me that from a young guy and the old guy.

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Y'all Russian? Of y'alls Russian? Here? Wait? Wait, what is today?

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 1>October fifteenth, Thursday fifteenth? It is one thirteen pm in

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon. Jesse, Holly does not have an argument? Mark

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 1>it down being put it on the calendar. Brother, I'm

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you something, Jesse. You know I'm right. You

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 1>know what. Listen, brother, what I just say? I have

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 1>no argument? What is man? Because I'm bounding down to

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't never want you not to have argument, but

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't have one. You made a solid point once

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:38.919
<v Speaker 1>in the lifetime. You got a solid point. Now, don't

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>make me find an argument argument I'm giving you. I'm

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 1>giving you the point. You made a solid Pointachi and

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 1>just ride off. Hey, Jesse, n Nate Nate just curted you.

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You know he does that to Kurt all the time.

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Kurtlby says the exact same ain't saying that Nate said,

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>And Nate just wants to argue, so he'll argue the

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 1>same point, but he makes Kurt look like he's not

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>saying the same thing. So you just got curted. He

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>just curted you, man, you got you told me all right, Fellas,

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.280
<v Speaker 1>This was a hell of a way to end the show.

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 1>But we gotta go tomorrow. We'll play nice, not nice.

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about keys to the game. I'm will come

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>up with something crazy that I don't know. I want

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to get to know y'all better, so I'm gonna come

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>up with some kind of game. Chris Bean, we might

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in that room yesterday. Man, when when Shannon showed me

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>man boy, he called me all type of nice names. Man,

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I should did it'd been too lost as that senior person. Man,

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you were a lot sexier than I thought you used

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to be. Let I remember, all right, Fellas, Nate, thanks

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:59.319
<v Speaker 1>to get used to it, Kurt, nice, great pull over

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you got on to day. Jess Hey, cow looking good,

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>keep looking good. Christ Be thanks for keeping us on

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the air. We'll be back tomorrow. You don't want to

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>miss it. Friday Show, Jess Coach God. She's been a

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